Worldwide Daily News and National Daily News recently met with the TVXQ members, Yunho (25) and Changmin (23), on January 11th at the SM Entertainment-managed ‘EverySing Karaoke’event in Seoul. The duo shared their thoughts on their long-awaited comeback, their musical concept, and the strained relationship they hold with JYJ.
Yunho expressed, “I’m thankful to all the fans who waited for us. My condition wasn’t up to par for our broadcasts last week, but seeing our fans passionately supporting us gave me overflowing strength.”
He continued, “Musically, we kept with the same colors of TVXQ. We exploited of all our strong points to the best of our ability by assigning Changmin to the higher notes while I took the bass, all the while putting great focus on our performance. We were worried that our polar opposite voices might not match, but we ended up with a good result and a new color.”
Changmin stated, “We made some changes along with the member adjustments. If we put emphasis on a lot of us singing the chorus in harmony before, then this time, we’ve changed so that our music can keep both keep of our vocals alive; we’ve also changed our methods in expressing our emotions for the song.”
When asked about their reason behind performing a ballad song, “How Can I”, for their first comeback stage, Yunho answered, “We sang it because we thought it would have a mass public appeal. We wanted to approach the fans with a variety of genres by throwing out our ‘TVXQ: the dance group’ image.”
With regards to the new album concept, “It’s music with a middle-ground between our personalities and our harmonization. We tried our best in filling up the space of the withdrawn members, and we focused on masculine and dynamic choreography.”
“TVXQ is a team that was created by SM. Whatever their motive was for withdrawing from the group, we waited for them solve their problems with the company and come back to us.”
Changmin expressed, “We thought we needed to protect TVXQ’s name. When a swarm of geese prepare to migrate, they never forget to make the correct formation. I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock.”
With JYJ being unable to make appearances on TV shows and broadcasts, there have recently been an influx of speculations regarding the situation between TVXQ and JYJ. TVXQ expressed, “It’s not like our hearts are comfortable about this either. We are suffering difficulties, we just feel it’s more appropriate if we don’t say it.”
When asked whether the meanings of ‘betrayal’ and ‘regret’ in their “Keep Your Head Down” track was aimed towards the absent members, Yunho replied, “When you listen to the song, it is possible to think the song is talking about them, considering the similar situations. However each person’s interpretation of the song is different, and it’s only about a man who is sending away his previous love.”
Yunho also added, “In my darkest moments, I thought about TVXQ being forgotten. It’s true that we’re becoming more distant with those friends. We needed to solve this inner grudge but we hadn’t been in contact for such a long time, and as a leader of a group for 8 years, it hurt a lot.”
“When I was depressed, I rode the subway and wandered the streets by myself, and I learned a lot from it. I even went mountain climbing, and just like how I had to go through a difficult path to get to the top of the mountain, I also believe that this was an important time for TVXQ in order to get back on the right track.”
He continued, “We will definitely show why we’re TVXQ through our music. We will do our best in not being a disappointment to anyone.”
Changmin added, “We’re also aware of those who look at TVXQ in a negative light. Going on stage and using our fans’ support to wipe out those criticisms is our responsibility. We’ve come back prepared to take on that responsibility.”
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[Update #1]
We are aware that our two sources have since retracted their stories. We do not know why they did this, but it’s best not to rush to judgment or assume. Please realize that this does not mean we made the translation up or that we are trying to provoke anything. We are currently looking to confirm the accuracy of our report. I know this is a difficult time for TVXQ fans, but please have a little more patience while we verify. Thank you.
[Update #2]
We found the original source and we have concluded that the translation you can read above is indeed correct. Thank you for your concern.
Actually, Daum pulled the original story for reasons unknown.
Either way, you can check out the pictures we just took of the original article below.
Source: Worldwide Daily News, National Daily News
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The original korean articles were taking down, you can imagine fans’s reaction with these kind of comments made by HM. -.-
I just hope that this article is a fake one. Sorry but it sounds negative to me. (I stopped visiting allkpop. That place is full of hate.)
I agree… They are blaming jyj even more….
don’t like this article….MY JYJ hwaiting!!!!!
“I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock”
From now, I hateee CHANGMIN, but love Yonho
If this is a correct translation of Changmin’s words, then his analogy is incorrect or inaccurate.
In a past interview JYJ stated that at heart, they are still TVXQ. Changmin believes that JYJ left TVXQ(5), but in reality, their purpose was to leave SME. Thus, the “flock” that JYJ broke away from is SM, not the group TVXQ — ergo, JYJ has a right to “consider themselves as part of the flock.”
Changmin has severely misinterpreted JYJ’s intentions. In order to dissolve such misunderstandings,the five need to speak face to face and not through the media.
Both Yunho and Changmin have twisted the entire situation. By undermining the reasons JYJ left, theyre protecting SMent and theyre potecting their loyalty. I dont see how they can except JYJ to come back to a “flock” and has caused them trouble from start to finish. Things wouldnt be this way, if SMent had played fair. So sad that Homin doesnt realize that.~
Please,
I dont wanna see that stupid fanwar,
january 18 really close, I hope everything will solve that day, let them be happy, I am really didnt wanna see their sad face again,
At least they’ve already spoken.
they said that this article was a mistrans again by allkpop :((
they are pretty unreliable
no, that’s the correct translation. that’s why lots of fanarts at korean sites with geese flying. becoz of CM’s statement.
*pout* what i want now is JYJ win lawsuit not never reunit to HoMin. never never reunit!!!*dont bash me*
Gosh!! Just GTFO!! U two don’t deserve our love!! F*
Sigh..sorry for bein rude. They both just..’wow’. It’s their true color rite. Whatever HM! I WISH JYJ ENORMOUS HAPPINESS AND SUCCESS EVER AFTER!
TVXQ expressed, “It’s not like our hearts are comfortable about this either. We are suffering difficulties, we just feel it’s more appropriate if we don’t say it.”
This!!!!! Why I feel like this is kinda slap on the face. If I the only person here who feel that their words toward JYJ was so harh? When they mentioned about JYJ they used the word ‘them’ instead. sigh
I understand that fans want them to say sth and TODAY i finally realized that fans like us have to be mentally prepared for what these two are going to say towards JYJ. Part of me I feel like I want them to express their feeling more not just say that ‘WE WILL SHOW YOU A BETTER TVXQ WITH OUR STRONG PERFORMANCES’ and with just this and not saying anything somehow can make people misunderstood ya know. But another part of mine I just want them to not saying anything too.
And another thing is that they are trying so hard to emphazise the word ‘TVXQ, we are TVXQ and such’. Honestly, I’m happy to see them back in music industry again and I have no doubt toward their talents but I just feel uncomfortable with this in some way. I like them, I really do but it’s just……………feel uncomfortable. I’m fine with them using the name but they way they try to express themselve is just…..sigh
I believe that HoMin have been through so much pain as well as JYJ. No one is not in pain in this kind of situation. Fighting and do your best both JYJ and HoMin.
“We will definitely show why we’re TVXQ through our music. We will do our best in not being a disappointment to anyone”. This sentence made all my heartache all this time seemed so unworthy in HM’s eyes.
I couldn’t accept how it seems that HM didn’t understand how the fans felt.
haaahh *sigh*..changmin why you said those things?? i wish you haven’t..so what happen now..???
i’m a cassiopeia so this is all i can do..i support both JYJ and HoMin..
jyj,lets move on together.forget bout homin and lets start a new fresh.whatever it takes i’m going to support jyj with all my heart..homin,i guess this is a goodbye..
“TVXQ is a team that was created by SM. Whatever their motive was for withdrawing from the group, we waited for them solve their problems with the company and come back to us.”
ok for some reason i got sooo angry at this part!
wtf solve their problems? Homin is included in this so they are making it seem as if JYJ are being dramatic over things.
i feel so bad for JYJ cuz we all know how much they miss the guys and they even say it so when i saw this article i kept thiking FINALLY they will say how much they miss the guys as well but i get THIS
they really have disapponinted me even more then ever
yunho was never my favorite butnow i dont like him changmin is my love but he also disppointed me with his comment. i really was hoping that they would defend JYJ cuz of what the SM puppets said
i guess JYJ is the ONLY one i will support hmm and maybe changmin once i get ove my anger
Ya.. that what I read in chinese site,some fans say this is better and now that one! with me both artical the same mean..No one is better!!
I don’t like but don’t hate HM and never bash and say anything about them, but all this one just show they really cold love!!like ” you have to solve your problem, not my busines, before you want to work with me, your just like that with me” how JYJ though all that hard time and with SM, not thing with them!!( that for chineses translation).
With this one more clear and clear.We thought we needed to protect TVXQ’s name. When a swarm of geese prepare to migrate, they never forget to make the correct formation. I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock.”
” !!! you guys can feel about!! JYJ, you can handle and stronger after this, just move on, fighting!! you got my respect!!
O.O
I’m speechless~~~~~~~
go ahead and do whatever you want Homin,
TVXQ experience for me stops here.
and JYJ, please, god please help them win the lawsuit. they really deserve to win this lawsuit.
And i couldn’t care less about the union now.
All I want is JYJ to be happy 🙂 🙂
thank you…your word are so precious.. Union or not,i want JYJ to live and sing as they want to.
Compare to what had happen to JYJ, Homin should feel greatfull, because their comeback is so smooth, they can promote their album in TVs, they can join the variety shows, not like JYJ who can promote their album or join the variety shows.
Sorry but I don’t like what Changmin said in this article, seems like JYJ are their enemies. What he just said like adding fuel in this big fire. From what he had said, it’s confirm that TVXQ only belong to Homin, not JYJ anymore.
I just hope HoMin & their fans won’t blame KCassie anymore if they continue to boycot TVXQ’s album.
Just like some of SME’s artists don’t bite the hand that feeding you. KCassie are the one who feed SME & Homin, & now they bite KCassie’s hands more & more & deeper.
May be this is a fake one, all link there in allkpop are dead, so please calm down everyone.
We know something will come, sooner or later. And we ‘ll have to make our decision.
Until then please stay strong for our JYJ ,( and may be HoMin).
It is true. I am Korean and Korean articles sound even more harsh. I am not writing this to bash Yoonho and Changmin, but they said was really shockingly rude and harsh. There are separte words to cound animal and human in Korean, and CM used the word to cound animal in referring to flock and bird story. Korean fans feel that Y and C have crossed the line.
Thanks for confirming this. I think you’re being Korean and knowing hangul makes it easier for me to believe your words. Thanks!
here’s something for us to read….but then again, until things have settled down, maybe it’s best for everyone to take things with a grain of salt????
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/83h5ge
Thanks for the link. So does it means CM think JYJ is at the wrong path and must ‘turn back’ before they can go back to TVQX? No way for HoMin to walk out of SM?? O, he is just a huge fan to SM!
IK THIS WHAT’S THEY GONNA SAY,DON’T WHY BUT I FELT IT…..JYJ MOVE ON LET HAVE THE NAME……FIGHTING…SO HOMIN U SAID U’VE WAITED WHEN……!!!!!HUH
THIS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ####### AND NOW PPL KEEP SAYING OH NO THIS ARTICLE MISTRANS…….OH PLZ ENOUGH IS ENOUGH………
IF U R REAL FAN THEN SUPPORT DBSKjyj WHO R STILL IN THIS AND WILL ALWAYS BE PART OF THIS NAME,,,,NO MATTER WHAT ######### SAYING..
JYJ FIGHTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
K-CASSIESSSSSSSS THX FOR THE SUPPORT NOW I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY U DID WHAT U DID……
JYJ…Did you three read this…can’t you see those two don’t understand you at all.. All those years that you spent together seem to be forgotten by the time that passed.
See how they talk about you like that..See how they not understand you at all..
See that there is no love in the cold words..
Now can three of you move on with us. I’m ready to move on long time ago but i’m waiting for a sign from three of you. My heart is hurt imagine you reading this.. I nearly cry by the cold words..
Where is the love.. where is the old tvxq that i’m falling with..
Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu do you know how much i love you..I will not say i will love you three forever but i will love you as much as i can..I will not be the one who left you..but i will wait till the day that you don’t want me. The day where you don’t want my love like today when i realize HM…don’t want my love anymore……
now JYJ and everyone here just need to hail Gummy’s There Is No Love and try to accept the truth.
listen to that song, then let’s move on.
thanks but no thanks..
i don’t like TVXQ the dance group..
when i read this..
i felt that HM just forget how it was not only them who made TVXQ to the top..
there were also JYJ..
do you think TVXQ is on top just because of you two??..
lemme tell you one thing…
it’s not..
and that was reflected in your latest album..
bye for HM!!~
i will just stick with JYJ..
Yes, thank you HoMin for finally speaking up what’s in your mind.
Because after this interview, it just proves all along my misgiving towards you 2. You choose to side with SME, a system that I personally feel disgusting and can not tolerate. I loose all the respects which I had kept for you. Water has spill over the glass. I say Bye to you.
to be honest, i’m very disappointed with this interview, especially changmin’s words. yes, i know they hurt too but to use that kind of word. wow. speechless
anyway I will always support JYJ. they need us the most. they’ve lost everything fame, friend but they will always have us, fan
Some people say: Without the fans, there will be no TVXQ.
I say: Without Junsu, Yoochun, Jaejoong, Changmin, and Yunho, there will be no fans.
TVXQ is successful because of the effort of five, not three and definitely not two, members (and their fans)
Well at least JYJ is aware of that.
How about HoMin though?
I am really disappointed with HoMin right now.
And I feel so sad for JYJ. 😦
Wow.
Finally they speak on this.
It’s obvious that there’s a wedge (duh). This not a JYJ v. SM but JYJ v. SM and Homin. No more delusion about HoMin’s stance on this. Obviously there’s more to the story than contractual issues and possibly contractual issues is being used as a cloak in some sort to cover the real reason for this wedge.
I want argue the geese correlation but I will not. I respect Changmin and Yunho for their honesty though.
Like the question: If you look at black, do you see black or brighter black? Even there’s a slightly difference, black IS black.
THe same I feel for SME and HoMin. I don’t see them evil as I see SME, but clearly they are on SME’s side, support SME in every words they said.
I feel weak with disappointment with all that’s happening these past few weeks. I’m trying not to take sides but I really don’t like what Homin is doing. Especially what Changmin said about JYJ still considering themselves part of the flock. WTH???!!!
I’m seriously drained. This is so tiring… I now understand how Junsu feels. 😦
Their words hurt, but you know what, I feel like disregarding them. Why? Because HoMin can say about this matter what SM allows them to say. Or to put it differently, what SM wants them to say to public. The guys won’t be allowed to hint they still care about their friends, it’s very clear.
I can’t accept the possibiliby HoMin really mean these words, I just can’t.
One can say I prefer to stay in denial, well, whatever 🙂
Even if Yoonho and Chanmin did not mean it, that look them even more pethetic. After 7 years as top stars, did they choose to remain puppet of SM? If they don’t have a say from heart in this important issue, what else can they choose in SME?
I’ve been thinking about it too. If we think they are being controlled in regards to what to tell, then how pathetic and miserable it is, and what or who must be holding them in SM. I don’t know, there should be reasons not meant for outsiders.
I only know I can’t believe they mean these words. And also I can’t believe they are truly happy.
But then again, I admit that for my own sanity I decide what to believe lately.
Can I have a question with you on this please.
Since you mention that you are Korean then I would like to ask you about the reaction of Korean fans towards this article, what’s it like?
And from your opinion, you think who will win the lawsuit?
Cuz, from what I’ve seen so far in various fandoms both of them are doing so good so far. So, I don’t worry about their career in the futer at all. But I just wana know some Korean opinion. That’s all?
@move on
just go to DC and you will see Koreans opinion. let’s just say that majority of cass turn to support JYJ. look at the figures of KYHD’s sales. cassies are letting them feel the true meaning of boycott. the other day, at hanteo, when they released the other version of their album, they only sold 77. total sales so far didnt even reached 50k.
@MoveOn I will tell you about Korean fandom situation. I am trying to be objective here, even though I am a JYJ fan. First of all, from the beginning, the fanbase of JYJ is much stronger than Homin, because Junsu and Yoochun are the most popular member in Korea. Jaejoong, YH, CM are relatively less popular. But so many of TVXQ fans are all-5 fans. So Until recently, major fansites (Dnbn, bestiz, Ikadong,DC gall) of TVXQ have tried to support both sides, with the faith that they will unite someday. So, there was no taking side in these sites. If we posted anything criticizing Homin, the post was deleted. On the other hand, some extreme Homin fans have publicly posted so many rumors and bad words on public sites. They knew that JYJ is more popular in fandom, so had a strategy to spread bad rumors on JYJ. They have never focused on Homin activities, but focused on making bad image on JYJ as betrayer. You know, JYJ themselves have never said a bad word about Homin. So JYJ fans just followed the example. But now we feel this was a bad choice because many foreign fans, expecially Japanese, seem to believe the rumors.
After the new album with such horrible lyrics and accruiting of Cassi 3rd round, fans have realized that something is wrong. It made K-cassies(all five fans, not Homin fans0 realize that Homin takes exactly same position with SM. As todays’ several interview made K-cassies appalled again, (CM refers to JYJ with a counting word for animal, not for human, YH says “I will forgive them and hug them after I give them 꿀밤”. I don’t know 꿀밤 in English but it is something an older person can do to younger to scold something bad. So YH says as if he is the one who is better than these JYJ betrayer. These interviews are so shocking, so so so so shocking for us, because it shows YH CM really takes SM position as theirs, and have no affection on TVXQ. Overall, for me, these interview sounds so insulting and aggressive, and they are really part of SM system, not the victim. So, if you go to Korean sites, you see major sites are supporting JYJ, and HM is supported by only its aggressive core fans in DC Yoonho gall and TZ and Yuyelubi.
@ivory o_o are you serious about the sales volume of their album? 77 is just….I’m speechless. I thought that the sale went really well because they are on top 5 charts. I’m so shocked about this.
You know what, I think I’m going to buy their album but I just wait for my friend who will go to korea this month, just to support them that’s all. I haven’t watched their MV, live performances or listen to their music but I did download it. Just to keep it for my collection but my feeling is ain’t feel right watching them, you know what I mean because I feel uncomfortable. It like I feel like pushed and pulled in kind of way lol. But I feel so damn disappointed with this interview. I don’t want all those fancy words from them but I just didn’t expect them to bash their own brothers (or used to be) like this.
@we thank you so much for your information. I just try to collect as much as information.
So, you said that Homin hard core fans don’t really make their fully support but just try to badmounthing and dirt the image of JYJ, am I correct?
I feel so bad for both of them to have such fans.
To be honest, CM’s word has been too direct and harsh since he mentioned sth about three-mustketeers in SM site. And this makes me feel like Oh My God….how can he say something like this.
I just wish they’re not the “2” person will be on the court on the Jan 18.,who will be the witness for SM ,like they already told with the PRESS,those witness will be ”the keys of the defender card”..
We needs to be strong,and prepair to fight for the worst may comes,everybody…
HOMIN is not the people we loves any more,they changed,they ‘re not the same those young boys with big smile,brigth eyes ,or the cool leader who always stand out to protected his members …
I don’t want to hear ,to see ,to watch anything from them any more…after read this article.
I thought Jan. 18 is the court decision already?
Actually I just ignore them. I haven’t watched anything about their comeback and the stuff I know about their comeback are all secondhand information or when they say or have something JYJ-related. Otherwise, I haven’t felt that they’ve made a comeback.
And at this point? It really feels like JYJ has nothing to lose anymore. As long as JYJ is strong enough to endure everything, I’ll also be strong enough to stand by them. When you’ve reached the lowest point, all you can do is climb up, anyway.
MINMIN,
I don’t want to hear ,to see ,to watch anything from them since moths a go. welcome to the club. *hug* >.<
Thank you ,and* hug* you back,:)
Now I think, if there’s really “an inner grudge” between the guys, then why JYJ act like there’s none? How is it possible that they don’t know about it? Also how is it possible Yunho doesn’t know the motives “for withdrawing from the group”?? Either the article was translated all wrong, or someone is not sincere and I don’t mean about JYJ.
MV for “Keep your head down” is so meant for JYJ, only a blind can’t see it. The song may had other meaning in the beginning, but with this MV, it’s not about the ex-lovers. If SM thinks people are that stupid, they should think again.
Anyways, Yunho and Changmin are under SM control and whatever they say in regards to JYJ, I don’t believe it 100%. Or even 50%
Unless HoMin slap JYJ in public, I don’t believe a word.
They’ve slapped JYJ already several times can’t you see? While JYJ is getting attack so many times, fans are not protecting them with the delusion of 5 tvxq. Today’s several interviews of Changmin and Yoonho were final punch to our delusion. I feel so sad for JYJ because the real situation is not delivered to Japan, where fans think Homin is the victim.
I was actually meant the physical kind of slaps, you know, showing the negative feelings towards them through physical abuse. Because I still can’t believe a word HoMin say in their official activities (interviews, TV etc).
yes,JYJ get slaps aready!! that more mentally hurt then real physical slaps.
Well, KYHD was a slap to jyj’s W. and NINE. and FALLEN LEAVES.
I feel that while Homin were at SME a lot of rumours about JYJ were going around and eventually somehow they began to believe those rumours…..
omo, i’m also speechless…..
JYJ for me, please.
I do really hope never read this article.
I always avoiding anything news related to the 2vxq because I don’t want to hate them more and more.
but this is just out of line.
what do you mean by saying : “TVXQ in order to get back on the right track”
comeback with only 2 members is the right track? singing a song with insulting others is in the right track?
and : “We thought we needed to protect TVXQ’s name”
was something bad happen with tvxq’s name before? No, but now, it’s a yes, thanks to your comeback with new form and hatred song.
“Made by SM”? yes, with 5 people in it. people with heart, mind and soul, not made by woods.
miss translated or not, I don’t care anymore.
good, that the original articles were taking down, because those statements were create hell, sure the best thing to do is deleted.
support all 5? never. not when the lawsuit begin, not now and not in the future too.
JYJ hope you will win this war, I really wish you do.
don’t get tired when climbing to the top,
be strong may God will always bless you.
I keep reading how the translation is actually wrong! Let’s not hate on anyone yet.
Read “we” comment above then u know
here is the link for the original article
http://www.segye.com/Articles/SPN/ENTERTAINMENTS/Article.asp?aid=20110112003503&subctg1=&subctg2
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Too bad HM got nothing to show, their album only reach above 30,000 today. And the only thing the can do is to feel bitter and resentment toward JYJ because they have no real talent in singing
and acting..
and composing..
just when i thought i finally found a healthy place for JYJ fans..
this thing happens..
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they do have talent.. please no bashing..
and @cool me why u wandering here btw.. leave such comment on top of that..
let’s leave hatred here and move on
@coolme. You should keep stick KYHD which such disgrace to KPOP, one day your head down is like KYHD hahaha. You should care abt your non-talent idols which only know lick ass SM!!
you guys,don’t need to bashing,they blind just let them blind,our Admins will clean this site for us,make this site only love and support for our boys,JYJ! We dont want look like other hate site,you know “which”!!
they why the hell are you here,,, this place is for JYJ JYJ JYJ and only JYJ.. is there a bit that you don;t understand… Go back to the link and see what written there JYJ3
There no such a thing as TVXQ when not all five member there..
This is JYJ thread why r u here anyway? If just to bash JYJ then u can go because u are not welcome here
are you sure what you just posted is in the right blog? lol.
why you even bother to come here? what happen with your tvxq’s blog? is everything ok there? or could it be it feels like hell so you come here because this place is cool? XD
i think you are in the wrong site. GO AWAY.
LOL TROLL,GTFO gezzz
this is JYJ thread.
I think lauw is right,
your name showed it.
coolme? so funny, you need us to cool you?
is that what sme/hm did to you? made you feel hot like in hell? I’m pity you.
I’m pity homin too, to have a fan like that, who doesn’t care about their sales. XD after they’re spending billions won to promote. hohoho.
you must care about jyj alot to visit this site! i warmly welcome you ^^
*insert sarcasm* >.<
What has JYJ done to make them “suffer”? By asking for a fairer contract? They’ve only showed continuous love through their songs for YC yet..LOL. YES. JYJ MADE THEM SUFFER. OKAY. LOL. Damn SOME fans are so delusional. I agree TVXQ FIGHTING. Because TVXQ will always be made up of Jthe FIVE not TWO. TVXQ was brought to fame with the sweat, tears and hardwork of all five. So no, TVXQ is NOT made up of TWO.
God just reading your comment about JYJ smoking and shit. Damn, YOU ARE REPULSING. I feel bad that HOMIN has fans like YOU.
lol…..and I think she knows that the y smoke as well. But well, not everyone to see.
JYJ is just being themseleve and they just want to be released from the word so called ‘IDOL’ that is why they did everything to show their true side.
May god bless those two guys and guide them because I believe that I can no longer call myself a Cassie anymore. I can’t believe that after all those year of them five working together this is how those two turned out to be.
I cannot in good honesty support such kind of people. My last well wish to them is that they will find happiness in their future.
Amen. My thoughts exactly.
if they actually said those words and used words that are used to describe animals…I’m disappointed and just wow. I think its VERY clear that they’re friendship is walking on a thin thread if not already cut. And for them to say that they WAITED for them to solve their problems and come back then WOW. JUST WOW. If, MAYBE, the court decision came faster, than they would’ve been fine? So its JYJ’s fault that SM wasn’t willing to make proper compromises? I think it’s clear. And for Changmin to basically imply that they no longer are apart of TVXQ in that stupid geese question is just repulsing. Which he DID imply. He said JYJ cant expect to be apart of the “flock” as in TVXQ since they “flew away”. If these are the words of Y and C then I don’t know if I can say I respect them anymore. I’ve been trying hardest to remain OT5 but with this, I don’t think I can anymore. As much as I love TVXQ, I really don’t know if I would want JYJ to return to their sides when JYJ have only expressed longing and love for their two members yet YC have only expressed contempt. And if anyone argues with me that its because SM is forcing words into their mouth than LOL. no comment. I find that a bullshit excuse this FAR in the game.
i was never a 100% supporter of the boycott but from here on out its GAME ON
i understand that they might be angry with jyj for their situation, but there was not even a little bit of saving grace in their comments, it was like a total stab. their sentences could have been phrased alot more constructively but it seems like it was completely out to humiliate and hurt jyj, which i felt was unnecessary because they could have stated their stand with more tactful words.
i am disappointed. its totally time to move on.
this is why I doubt the articles are true, especially if the original in Korean sounded even more harsh than the translated version.
But true or fake, I fear even to imagine what JYJ feel now.
the korean words are more harsher, hence the korean fans called this another hell gate is opened.
1st hell gate: HM using tvxq’s name
2nd hell gate: KYHD as the title song and the lyrics
3rd hell gate: Yunho’s thanks to
and so on and so forth. if HM fans(Hotel girls at telzone) are aggressive in destroying the three’s reputation, JYJ fans are ATM. meaning their focus now is to support in its fullest JYJ’s Music Essay. you will see the result of this when the album comes out next week.
Also, JYJ fans are getting all the possible means to capture the origin the source of rumor (korean ID name is Forever). Hotel girls were successful in convincing Japanese fans, so Japanese fans thinks that HM is the victim here and JYJ are the bad people.
if international fandom is chaotic, it’s much worse in among korean fans.
@ivory
thanks for the update on the korean fandom.
i actually hope jyj are able to re-secure their japanese fans </3
imo, there are no "good" and "bad" people in this situation though. both sides are victims and both had a part to play for the current situation.
though i have to say, i find jyj-antis really scary ;__;
i know you just saying but i don’t see a reason why they must be angry because JYJ left, shouldn’t they have left with them as well? That’s what I always wonder, I don’t bash or hate them though. I was being neutral towards them since I liked them but now I don’t know what I should feel abt them any more. I have been moving on since I became a fan to JYJ but I didnt hate them, maybe still don’t.
*sign*: yes, they finally spoke and all they spoke was a slap in the face with all the waiting “to comeback where – SM? since they don’t want to leave” and who would like to go back to that hell when JYJ has expressed so much how that place is.
Homin has just made me move another step towards JYJ though I would have been at the final step already.
Amidst all this chaos, it is not surprising that their relationship are strained.
i believe each had their own reasons to stay/leave, and i respect their decisions. it’s only when the media and other third parties that put forth comments such as “money grabbers”, “traitors” that make me even more protective of jyj. and also because i’ve always been more of a jyj fangirl. Not that i hate homin (in fact, i don’t think i could ever hate them), it’s just that they attract my attention less.
what i don’t get is….
HoMin should know better than to talk so bluntly and ferociously when it’s such a touchy subject. Even when JYJ talks about the lawsuit and about HoMin, it’s hard for them to touch on the topic. JYJ says their interviews in a sincere tone, not trying to feed any hatred like what HoMin is doing. What HoMin is doing is not like them at all wth
Also I noticed that all SM artists including HoMin are more critical than usual. Though I know Changmin to be the type to say what’s on his mind…even Boa, Jungmo, Jay the choreographer, and Sungmin (who are usually the less talkative ones mind you) had bitter emotions and were put into this mess. Somethings up.
Are the SM artists just getting really defensive and are “ganging” up on JYJ….or did JYJ DO SOMETHING ELSE that is so “hurtful” that even HoMin would criticize them?
Its like the Entertainment Industry(SM, other companies, and broadcast companies) vs. JYJ (backed by us fans).
I don’t really know, but to me, i find it easier to trust the masses because i feel they have less motives than bigger companies that have businesses to run. but that’s just my opinion tho i also find it odd that their comments are being particularly harsh.
Simple, everybody hate SM and the sales of SM artists drop. When it concern your rice bowl, you will become defensive as well right?
I think (and this is just the theory) all SME artists do not care about the fans of JYJ or OT5…….they are making these statements to make JYJ feel that they are indeed guilty or that they did do something wrong or that they are indeed greedy etc. even if they are none of these things. To push them to the edge so that maybe they will cancel the lawsuit.
GOD!! now i’m really confused which one to believe..there’s several version of this article..the good one and the bad one..this is only my opinion but i think reporters are really good exaggerator!!
this is really make me want to learn korean at the first place..!!haaahhh..
cassies please calm down..!!
I wrote about Korean fandom situation as following. Could you guys tell me about the foreign country’s situation? Do you think JYJ can survive this period? I wish no matter what SM does, JYJ can survive it and their only power at the moment is fandom…
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@MoveOn I will tell you about Korean fandom situation. I am trying to be objective here, even though I am a JYJ fan. First of all, from the beginning, the fanbase of JYJ is much stronger than Homin, because Junsu and Yoochun are the most popular member in Korea. Jaejoong, YH, CM are relatively less popular. But so many of TVXQ fans are all-5 fans. So Until recently, major fansites (Dnbn, bestiz, Ikadong,DC gall) of TVXQ have tried to support both sides, with the faith that they will unite someday. So, there was no taking side in these sites. If we posted anything criticizing Homin, the post was deleted. On the other hand, some extreme Homin fans have publicly posted so many rumors and bad words on public sites. They knew that JYJ is more popular in fandom, so had a strategy to spread bad rumors on JYJ. They have never focused on Homin activities, but focused on making bad image on JYJ as betrayer. You know, JYJ themselves have never said a bad word about Homin. So JYJ fans just followed the example. But now we feel this was a bad choice because many foreign fans, expecially Japanese, seem to believe the rumors.
After the new album with such horrible lyrics and accruiting of Cassi 3rd round, fans have realized that something is wrong. It made K-cassies(all five fans, not Homin fans0 realize that Homin takes exactly same position with SM. As todays’ several interview made K-cassies appalled again, (CM refers to JYJ with a counting word for animal, not for human, YH says “I will forgive them and hug them after I give them 꿀밤”. I don’t know 꿀밤 in English but it is something an older person can do to younger to scold something bad. So YH says as if he is the one who is better than these JYJ betrayer. These interviews are so shocking, so so so so shocking for us, because it shows YH CM really takes SM position as theirs, and have no affection on TVXQ. Overall, for me, these interview sounds so insulting and aggressive, and they are really part of SM system, not the victim. So, if you go to Korean sites, you see major sites are supporting JYJ, and HM is supported by only its aggressive core fans in DC Yoonho gall and TZ and Yuyelubi.
Personally, I think that SME has done a good job in both dividing the International fans into groups and pitting other fandoms against JYJ biased fans. Go to kpopsecrets (a picture board that you can write your opinions without leaving your username)and you can find that the majority is actually hostile against JYJ.
The drama that happen in the fandom and the lack of good news do nothing to improve the situation. At the same time, it seems like half of JYJ biased fans are even more determined to protect the boys than before after seeing everything that has done against them and the other half is still undecided what to do at this point.
OT5 (All five) fans seem to be 80% against SME practices with the rest supporting them. Still, majority of those think a boycott is ridiculous and don’t think that KYHD is offensive though the latter that might be also because by new-dbsk fans. Many are sympathetic to homin because they have heard that they are boycotted in Korea. They have decided to support both JYJ and Homin.
Homin’s fans are totally behind Yunho and Changmin and big majority of them either don’t care about JYJ or dislike them. With the influx of new-dbsk fans, the ratio should be similar between the the JYJ and homin fans (JYJ’s fans are still more) but OT5 group is still the largest.
That is my observation.
A common thought behind those who only support homin and bash JYJ is that the cosmetic shop and greediness is the real reason behind the lawsuit. The best way to counter that might be to post articles that prove that it is not so but even then many have already decided their stances.
I myself sometimes think that oh maybe SME has achieved their gold by brainwashing HoMin. But I know that they are mature enough to let their family do sth bad to them. Shrug.
And to answer your question.
In my country, they still believe in 5 but they really hate SME and those who bashing and badmounthing towards JYJ. And from what I experienced about the whole situation they tend to be in JYJ side more but they still support HoMin too. They believe that they are not going to trust anyone but 5 TVXQ. If the word is not directly from their very own mounth, they will just take it as a grain of salt. But for all the harsh words, fans feel angry and disappointed. They are trying to understand HoMin’s stance for not leaving SME. It’s more likely that fans just doubt about their reason for stayig. They believe that Yoonho is the best leader they have ever seen. And changmin is the youngest brother who always protecting his older brothers.
But from this interview today, fans (in my country) really feel disappointed (of course) with HoMin’s harh words But still yet thinking that this article might be written from a group of people who want to discredit HoMin.
So, I think in each countries might face the same situations. Chaotic fandom! it’s just more or less that’t it.
I’m sorry I said I wasn’t gonna comment on the geese thing but I have to cause I love birds and the whole geese V formation thing is very powerful to me. He wants to correlate geese to TVXQ okay lets do it then.
For him to use that correlation and claim that just because they broke away they have no right to consider themselves apart of the flock. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. Geese will NEVER leave a flock cause they know they’re better off migrating with others than alone. It takes way too much energy to fly alone while migrating so they prefer to stay with the group. This is JYJ, jyj preferred to stay but they were wounded, wounded by SM and had NO CHOICE BUT TO BREAK AWAY. SM is the hunter, who shot them for being aware and challenging it’s unfair presence as a gamer and they were wounded. Homin are the other geese who are aware of the unfairness of the hunter bring present but doesn’t want to make a wave, afraid of being shot. How dare Changmin make this out to be as if JYJ is selfish in this and broke away to hurt them in some sort. That’s the tone I’m getting from reading how it worded.
This is like them siding with the HUNTER. How dare you fly and look back seeing your teammates wounded by the hunter falling out of formation, and you wound up holding a grudge against your wounded teammates not the hunter? THAT DON’T MAKE SENSE TO ME. That is the most rudest thing you can do. Is to side with the enemy. It’s like they have Stockholm syndrome.
Their departure wasn’t a selfish one. When a goose is wounded, two other geese fallow after so that geese won’t be alone (this reminds me of when Junsu said if one member decides to leave he’ll leave). Til the geese heal or is dead is when they will join other formations (other agencies) until they finally find their original group (TVXQ).
THEY WILL BE BACK TO JOIN YOU GUYS (if the hunter SM gets out the way), they just have to heal. Don’t hold a grudge against them for falling out of formation. SM (and delusional HM fans) might have cooked up that their departure was selfish but in actuality they where wounded, they had no choice. You just keep up the main flock until they comeback and join you guys. Don’t just dismiss them.
Homin is really upsetting me right now, like honestly. They’re being brainwashed by the ‘hunter’. The hunter is telling them “I had to shoot them off, they weren’t needed in the formation anyway. You can fly better as a duo anyway. They broke away because they wanted to fly alone are greedy and selfish” When in reality 5 is better than 3 or 2 in geese terms lol. JYJ recognizes this (the song W). And Homin is aware but again, they hint at it but turn it into a “We don’t need them” thing by stating they want tor prove why THEY are TVXQ. I remember Yunho said that they needed more stamina since they had to pick up the workload since three are gone. This tells you right here that they work more efficiently when it was five. More efficient beautiful harmonies. Now on each end it’s only two part harmony. Now they need a bunch of more dancers when five dancers in V formation was good enough on some performances to fill the stage. Now with two and three, both sides have to over work just to keep it as if it’s five.
Please don’t tell me they have Stockholm syndrome lol.
LOL stockholm syndrome! hahaha, maybe…
i agree that homin’s album was a complete slap to jyj’s face- especially after they sang “W”, “Nine” & “Fallen Leaves”. i bet jyj feel like fools now ;A;
I think your comparison is very fitting!
If this is real then:
Sers somebody should remember to HoMin that the only reason why Yunho is in TVXQ is because when SM wanted to throw him out of their dream team and debut him only as a back up dancer during the training days ,Junsu and Jae opposed to it(from fan account of the hearing,just google it),that those who talk about ungratfullness to SM should remember who hosted and feed them in their house on winter when they were sleeping under the bridges and in train stations while they were training and SM didn’t pass them any kind of money so they had to pay bills and food expenses by themselves(Yunho said that on YSMM and Junsu was the one who hosted him)that without those 3 of 5(so the majority!!)they wouldn’t have succeded as an acapella group,they maybe need to re-listen to their old albums and see how the majority of songs were carried by JYJ and not them,they were the extra that added to something already perfect!I was always a cassie cheering for the 5 of them but i was never blind to not see that the raw voice talent were jyj as they could from the beginning shape their vocies as much as they like and carry high and low notes at the same time.Min can carry only high notes as for Ho he can dance and sing on normal level nothing special,what is Min’s voice talent without his screams or Ho without his snake-girly dancing hands style??(by the way i always belivied that the only reason they called him 4 MJ tribute is cause Rain couldn’t make it,i mean sers watch TVXQ on tv-shows,when he is not following a choreo all he can do is those wierd hands movements)JYJ could always rap/sing high and low notes and dance as good as sin.TVXQ was huge cause they could melt mediocrity with perfection,gone jyj the only thing that remains is mediocrity living on the back of a legend that was not created mainly because of them.Since the beginning of the lawsuit i was one of those cassies boycotting SM but still hoping for a riunion of TVXQ.After reading this now i don’t want JYJ to go back to them,i want them to win the lawsuit and shine brighter than ever without two mirrors living of their light.I liked TVXQ as 5 and i will not throw all the albums i bought away ,but from now on i will think of that time as just the first step that JYJ took to reach stardom,HoMin for all care can rot in the hell THEY CHOOSE!Sers i can’t understand cassies saying that HoMin are being forced by SM…they fucking CHOOSED to stay there,they CHOOSED to renow their contract with them just few months ago,they CHOOSED to comeback using TVXQ name no matter the promise all the members did with Cassiopea was TVXQ=5 or nothing,they CHOOSED to come out with an title song that could be read as dissing the members,they CHOOSED to do a dance and make a mv in which they throw away 3 fingers and then lifts up only 2,they CHOOSED to allow people like Boa and that guy (who should be named instead of “Jae Famous”:”JAE YOUR TOO OLD LET GO”)to take a pic with them and post it on twitter so people can see that they are friends and approve of their bashing Junsu.There is no way in hell that somebody can force people on doing what they don’t want to do especially if those people could actually run from them to be in a better place!They are ok with it, so i guess they sold their souls to SM and are fucking happy about it!
You are awesome. Everything you said was literally on point with everything i was thinking about HoMin, I can’t support something I don’t respect and everything you said sums it up nicely. Seriously! This whole thing burns me up!
Yunho also stayed with jaejoong, even though jj didn’t have a lot he let yunho stay with him they talked about it on a show. I totally agree with you about the forced thing. I hate when people say that. They’re not puppets, just like other humans they have choices.
ya.. you right, because JYJ too kind and sweet( that why we love them) they never talk bad about HM and look like they still hope renuie ( before this mess) that why the new fans like me event don’t know HM still try to support HM, try to don’t thing bad about them before, try to listen their music, but after their CD, sorry I am give up, now with me only JYJ! just hope more fans can see and support them more,pls!
I don’t think the translations with regards to what they have said are accurate by allkpop. Should source for other versions of translations, because honestly, I think what Yunho and Changmin said have been hugely mistranslated and misinterpreted.
It’s already causing misunderstanding within fans!! >.<
Read “we” post then u will see right or not, dont assume anything
dear we
what changmin and Yunho said was all true then???how sad that can be..TT^TT
JYJ doing just fine here in Malaysia..^^ as far as i concern international cassies are very supportive..but this is just my opinion and my little observation throughout the whole situation correct or punch me if i’m wrong but ASIAN cassies are on JYJ side mostly..Asian Cassies believe in the power of FIVE that’s why when HoMin decided make a comeback with only the two of them Asian Cassies feel very reluctant and no choice but to take JYJ side..it doesn’t mean that they hate HoMin they still holding on to “always keep the faith”..
that’s why i think at least for now JYJ is more safer outside korea.
p/s sorry for my bad English..i’m not really good in English..
i think that’s true. that international cassies got JYJ’s back. But i’m really curious to know what Japan’s take on this. Supposedly anti-JYJers spread rumors about them and Japan might not like their “disloyalty” towards Avex as well…
but then again yuchun jaejoong and junsu were the most popular in japan too…hopefully they still have some Japan support!!
they still and always will be..J cassies are the most supportive cassies i have ever seen well it can’t be deny they gain anti’s but who care since they’re single and album hit the music chart there ^^
i’m worried about japan antis too 😦 could you share with us more info about this T__T
Hi, thanks for your observation on asian fans. Well, if you ask me whether what they say is true, I will just say that after the shocking interview, the tvxq websites were filled with replies of shocks and anger of fans. It is the fans’ reaction who can read Korean. what else can I say… Well, my writings may sound a bit aggressive here ,but I feel so much worried for JYJ, because soon Homin will have many chances to talk with media, esp. TV. Public will take their side if Homin uses that chance make a case for themselves. JYJ, whom I think has protected the core spirit of TVXQ, will be bashed by rumors. That’s why I feel we need to do something to protect them. Now, only fandom is their power.
dear WE,
Pls stay around this fansites and give us the information. Many fansites will not translate or manipulate the news to protect 5 members. That why international fans cannot understand why Kcassies reacted with HM’s actions.
But I believe that Kcassies have legit reasons for their actions. As an I-fan, we do not know anything except limitted information that I-fansites give us. Thus, we should not (can not) blame Kcassie for what is happening. I believe that Kcassies tried their best to protect 5 members until now.
Thank you very much for spending your time to inform us.
Junsu had tears in his eyes while having interview with YTN and some fans call him FAKE.
I think if HoMin takes the chance through media such as Interview and such and if they get very emotional all of sudden then can I call them FAKE too.
I admit that I’m so disappointed with this interview but part of me want to try to understand their situation too. This is so hard for us fans.
@we u have to around i-fan site more often because because i-fans is almost clueless with what happen now…
if i am not join twitter because of jyj and follow some K-cassies may be i am still blind right now =_=;;
and big site sometime really selective to translate the article to keep the faith as 5.. *sigh*
Thank you very much for you information!!that what I am worries right now,HM have SM and they use to be close JYJ in the furture if they really try to do it,JYJ realy hurt and more more bad rumer!! right now they have only us!! asleast they still have alot Korean in their site, I happy about that! I heard alot of Bigest Fans still support them,and they send the even too korean fansite.
I confess I am often overwhelmed with emotion thinking about JYJ, so my apologies if my writings are aggressive. I did not know foreign fans do not have information on Korean situation. I will try to update as often as possible about the situation objectively. If intl’ fans do not know the situation now, it is because Korean JYJ fans have followed JYJ’s example (waiting and faith), while Homin fans have translated rumors into 6 lanuages and spread them internationally. These are mainly YH fans so they had no bad feeling about ruining JYJ, but many JYJ fans were AT5 fans, so they could not react with another bad information. So we waited. But from now on, Korean cassies will not be patient because YH, CM themselves made it clear that it is not SM vs JYJ, but SM&YHCM vs JYJ. Think about it. Why most Korean fans who have more first hand information take JYJ side?
@we
Yes please come here more often to share your info with us ^^
that’s what i always think to myself too. like, jyj fans are the ones that are seldom bashing or taking the direct offensive to any criticisms revolving around homin but wow for homin there’s this sudden flood of antis for jyj O.O
“Why most Korean fans who have more first hand information take JYJ side?”
i agree with this. kcassies know alot more than us and they definitely are more trustworthy than big companies like sm. that’s why i trust them. they are, afterall the very same people who have been with the boys for over six years.
AKP has already confirmed that the translation is correct.
Now it’s time to accept it… sigh
I don’t see any JYJ friends and family go on the net and posting comments criticizing HoMin about this interview.
TVXQ, the dance group? *scoff* Of course, the singers are not around only the dancers left. That make sense.
What I find hilarious is HoMin are said to be ‘honest’ and ‘blunt’ in their words and their fans said that they respect HoMin for that. Seriously? What did they said when Junsu tweet his feelings? didn’t they tell him to not share whatever his feelings to the world? They must be really delusional.
Seeing HoMin on TV shows disgust me. They didn’t even sold that much but still shoved to our face while JYJ is being cockblocked by the their “lovely SME’. nice, just nice. >_>
Don’t blame HoMin for being on TV, being or not being there is not decided by them, they do their job by following the orders, just like TVXQ did when they were together and doing the comeback promotions. It’s also not their fault JYJ are blocked from TV.
But I do agree with you on what you said about HoMin fans. They hate so much, the whole “new TVXQ” fandom is based on hatred and being fed by it. They are so aggressive, united by their hate for original TVXQ, it’s disturbing, as a fan of TVXQ5 I feel disgusted by them. I don’t know if any fandom that was built by hatred before, so it’s very new to me.
It’s the tactic that disgust me. Initially, I don’t blame HoMin at all in this matter but after this interview, I even know what to think. It gives the idea that all stuff that SM did is ok for them. The song is fine for them to sing despite they fact that it gave double meaning, read Yunho statement. They know that the songs can be interpret wrongly but still they carry on. They sings the song and they are ok with it, well at least they look and sound like they like they song.
I’m bitter about the fact that JYJ couldn’t attend and sing on music show. I don’t how to tell this, but everytime I see HoMin right now I fee like I’m seeing SM in person, and I hate it. That is why I said I’m disgusted. I hope I make sense.
I’m bitter that JYJ couldn’t get the same fair treatment that HoMin and other idol get. Haven’t Korean learn from HOT disbandment?
Everything is just so messed up right now.
God, I feel like I can rant on this forever. I should stop.
i get what you mean. the double standards on airing their opinions is really making me angry because while homin could air their opinions and gain respect, junsu was being dissed to no end because of his emotional tweets. it hurts me even more because i feel junsu is probably a really inward person – so it must have affected him alot for him to tweet those words. but yet when he aired them, people just ambushed him.
Yunho was always wise when he speaks..that’s why this article shocked the hell out of me..Everytime they (JYJ and HoMin) open their mouth there will be a huge debate between fans..*sigh*
You are right WE fandaom is the only hope. we should stick together!!
JYJ HWAITING!!
“Yunho was always wise when he speaks.” – Exactly. That’s why I find it so hard to believe those words are actually his and not given to him by SM.
Or Yunho changed completely, which I don’t want to believe either >_<
I think Yunho changed.
I used to be a die-hard yunho fan, but around mid 2010, his aura completely changed. Everything about it felt…different(darker) and it made me uncomfortable.
I feel like around that time, the seeds of hate had been planted and were beginning to sprout.
At that point I directed my attention to JYJ.
woah..haha good job homin..i wonder how sm brainwash you to say something like this to your own member..
it sound deep of grudge..if you really do disappointed in jyj decision, no need to insult them like that..jyj not even has badmouthing you guys before..now i think again, sm is really full of rude people there..
W, fallen leaves,and nine just a waste to dedicated to a person like you homin..i hope jyj didn’t read this interview
Obviously there are problems between them…HM has a right to talk as much JYJ but…if CM really talked like humiliating them (above some Korean friends said it is like this )then… I will be really sad.
They can be angry, sad etc. I can understand, it is natural. I don’t know what they live but they don’t need to be harsh.
I won’t judge any of them because I don’t have a right. I can not even say who is right or wrong becuase everyone has their own reasons to act like this.They don’t need to think the same way.
I won’t think about what they are saying anymore. everybody chose their way. I only know something for sure…I can not live without JYJ’s voice, songs even their silly tweets…JYJ’s existence is the most important to me.I don’t care about the rumors, their problems with SM or HM… no matter what they say, I will keep loving JYJ ok? with their rights and wrongs, with their faults and success…♥
I pretty much agree with everything you said. We’re not the people involved, so it’s difficult to judge. All I know is that I love JYJ. Call it blind love, but that is all there really is to it.
I agree. The only problem I have with their words is when Supposedly, according to the allkpop article, he basically said that JYJ shouldn’t expect to be considered a part of TVXQ because they “left” SM. And supposedly, they were also asked if they had any words they wanted to send to JYJ and, although Yunho said Take care of your health. Supposedly changmin just said no. And you can find people talking about this on Allkpop in the comments.
” Supposedly changmin just said no.”
he did
i don’t feel anything at all its clear their friendship is damaged and there is resentment in the mix. Its human nature to feel anger so i won’t judge them for it but i’ll move on, let go and support those whose music i like and enjoy.
“Love and hate are one step apart”. I’ve been thinking about this saying quite often and somehow I’ve been getting this feeling from Changmin. And now this simple answer…
And still I cling to my belief that whatever happened, it can be repaired. Not tomorrow or next month, maybe even not this year, but one day….
@ itsmyfinger
Changmin seems to hold a lot of resentment and anger and that was very clear during their end year performances in japan 2009. So i hope someday he’ll let go, forgive and forget.
like what you said, their friendship can be mended but external forces will have to stop butting in as it seems that’s what degraded their friendship. They all seemed fine with each other until jyj won partial injunction and everything went downhill and personal attacks by people not directly involved in the issue begun. So i’ll continue hoping someday they’ll mend their friendship because more than their band, their friendship is the worst and saddest loss.
im dying to know what is going on with them..
mr egg tell us to wait and said one day the truth will be revealed..
the way homin answer and reaction here really harsh..changmin just said no waord to jyj!!..it is really difficult for me to accept it..sungmin called junsu liar..wth..
will us really can know the truth someday??..i really want all 5 of them meet each other and talk about this..i know there are biggest misunderstanding between them..
i can accept they cant be reunite again, but please settle this with beautiful way..not like this..sound so ugly..
Even now, I keep trying to make excuses for these guys. Changmin is just there to support Yunho. Yunho is to traditional to go against a company. They both have family pressures. Blah blah blah.
But I think Junsu’s right, something has changed.
Did they renegotiate the contract and get a slice of the company like BoA? Did SME convince them that if they left they would crush all 5 just like they are going to crush JYJ? Did SME convince them that they would always be in JYJ’s shadow staying would be the only way they could prove that they are just as good?
I don’t know.
But I’ve also seen enough people in abusive situations to recognize the symptoms. HoMin are showing classic resentment toward those who managed to escape the situation. HoMin stayed to take care of the family while JYJ ran away. That JYJ said, “Come with us,” only makes it worse.
They are also showing the need to defend–protect– the abuser is part of what the abuser creates with the abuse. And what is so horrible, is that none of us standing on the outside can do anything. You can only stand and wait and be there with open arms when your dear friend decides to leave.
But you don’t have to watch. When I heard that Yoochun wrote, “I’m turning my back,” my first thought was, “No! Don’t!” But turning your back doesn’t mean you aren’t listening for the footsteps behind you. I think all three will turn around with open arms the moment HoMin step away. As will I.
But right now, I can’t watch.
(BTW, SME behaviour toward JYJ is that of a classic abuser toward the victim that stands up and leaves. During this last 18 months, they’ve followed the script exactly.)
I want to clarify something. I don’t think they are sad, pathetic and beaten-down. I think Changmin is certain that he’s right! I think Yunho is doing what is expected of him, and he’s proud of that. That doesn’t mean that these attitudes haven’t been manipulated by the environment they’ve been in for the past 8-10 years.
“They are also showing the need to defend–protect– the abuser is part of what the abuser creates with the abuse.”
This sounds like the symptoms of Stockholm’s Syndrome. Scary. and pitiful.
I’m not feel very angry.
Thank you, HM, for helping me have a decision completely
JYJ, hope you win the court!
don’t, not “am”, wrong grammar :-<
agreed!
CAN”T AGREE MORE!!!
JYJ DAEBAK!!!
i rather to read/hear DISBANDMENT news by SM then reading this 😦
A lot of things that were said in this interview bothered me and as much as I love JYJ a part of me was still kind of hoping that HoMin…cared? They sounded bitter, like they had a grudge against JYJ. Yunho’s comments on JYJ sounded as if he were looking at them like they were children having tantrums; as if they needed to be discplined. Changmin’s comments about the geese…that really pissed me off. “I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock.” What kind of ‘family’ is that? That sounds as if they could care less with that comment. And the way they refer to JYJ as ‘them.’ JYJ has had not once said any negative comment towards these dudes. If anything they’ve been pretty peaceful about it and a bunch of us have been sitting here waiting for the day HoMin will finally speak on the subject. JYJ has been ernestly stating their desire to talk to HoMin and see them again…I’m just so disppointed in HoMin. They act like they don’t care. They sounded so different, I feel like I’ve been fooled all these years. These aren’t the guys I thought they were. They seem different. They clearly stand with SM and that’s just what it is. It is what it is at this point and with that said I’ve come to the conclusion that I am going to have to peacefully decline membership to any part of the HoMin fandom (music, etc). For me, this was all I needed to know, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I am more than 100% for JYJ. With that said *clears voice* EVERYONE HERE BUY THEIR ALBUMS!!! SUPPORT THEM NOT ONLY ONLINE BUT OFFLINE BY MAKING THE DIFFERENCE AND BUYING THEIR ALBUMS. THAT’S WHAT REALLY COUNTS. DON’T DOWNLOAD THEIR MUSIC, SUPPORT YOUR ARTIST BUY BUYING THE ALBUM. DON’T UPLOAD DOWNLOAD LINKS, BUY THE ALBUM, LOL!!!
I’m going CRAZY!!!! Someone please give me the website to buy their album right now!!!!!! I want the website that would count towards their album sales figure. I will check back in a couple of hours.
To the administrator of this website, if you read this, you should post up a list of all the websites where us overseas fan can buy their album (especially the one that counts toward their sales).
IF THERE’S EVER A TIME WHERE JYJ NEEDS OUR SUPPORTS, IT’S NOW!!!!!
I know only ttp://www.dvdheaven.com
still have some more place.
G-MARKET has the album too!
you can buy it athttp://www.yesasia.com/us/junsu-jejung-yuchun-jyj/0-aid2451065-0-bpt.47-en/list.html
if you’re not living in KOREA
http://www.yesasia.com/us/junsu-jejung-yuchun-jyj/0-aid2451065-0-bpt.47-en/list.html
@minmin buy in yesasia wouldn’t counted into the chart…
DVDHEAVEN and G-market is…
yup I already ordered and now just wait for it. ❤ PLEASE PEOPLE IF YOU LOVE + SUPPORT JYJ, SHOW SME THE DIFFERENCE
my tears fell down when i was reading all your comments.
No need to say a lot but :
I LOVE YOU JYJ AND JYJ’S FANS.
(NO Changmin’ Pradise drama for me which I used to anticipate)
I can’t pretend to support all five when all five don’t support each other.
I can’t wait til this whole court thing is over with.
Homin’s statement did not surprise me at all, though it still feels like they poured salt on my wound. To me, the TVXQ I loved no longer exists. I love JYJ and I will always support Junsu, Jaejoong and Yoonchun.
Somebody said abt another translation for the interview.
*bang head hard to the wall*
This one is right you can go to allkpop they prove that this trans (the same one they haave posted) is the correct one.
I AM SO SORRY FOR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY! BUT FOR ME YOU TWO ARE DEAD! I USED TO BELIEVE IN YOU TWO AND THAT A REUNION WAS POSSIBLE BUT YOU GUYS PROVE ME WRONG! I CAN’T FORGIVE YOU FOR ALL THE PAIN YOU ARE GIVING TO JYJ IN THIS FUCKING INTERVIEW! GOD I WISH I COULD TURN BACK TIME! I FELT SO BAD THAT EVEN NOW I CAN’T STOP CRYING! HOW CAN THEY TREAT THE BOYS LIKE THEY ARE TRASH AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT BROUGHT TVXQ TO FAME!!??? GOD I FEEL LIKE I AM A BITCH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I HAVEN’T HATED ANYONE LIKE I HATE THIS TWO! I AM GOING TO PRAY TO GOD SO HE CAN MAKE ME A BETTER PERSON! IS IT A SIN TO LIKE JYJ THIS MUCH!? THAT I WANT EVERYONE THAT HURTS THEM TO DIE AND GO TO HELL!!?? GOD PLEASE HELP ME BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE CRAP!
im not suprised by their comments. Ever they decided to make a comeback on their own i felt weird already and now … after this interview i lost hope on them.. i dont hate them but i feel bitter and heartbroken for JYJ and for myself. its not me who lost the faith first , its homin that lost their faith in cassiopeia and jyj. SM isnt your hero Homin, its the fans and ur brothers jyj that contributed to ur success. I dont know how they will continue on as tvxq because to me tvxq is already dead. The group with 5 members that i loved ao much no longer exists. Im now fighting for JYJ, hoping they would stay strong and get through this together. Im just a fan and im already this emotional, i wonder how hurt jyj would feel.
u guys are right, we need ro buy jyj album to help them survive this. they lost everything now and we are the only people that they can count on. i dont want to boycott homin album. i didnt buy it because the tvxq disk is supposed to have 5 mem ers figure not 2.
I will respect their decisions siding with SM so i hope they wont resent or blame cassies for their new tvxq beginning.
My always keep the faith goes to JYJ
i have never regreted knowing yunho and changmin. i will forever remember the boy yunho i used to have a crush on and a boy named changmin who is always smart and rational. those 2 guys are gone but i will remember them. I did love tvxq 5 members with all my heart but now its jyj time.
To my dearest JYJ,(although it may not reach them ~~)
You’re too young to realise that TVXQ with 5 doesn’t exist ever since you 5 chose to walk on separated paths. If they were to be with you, your two friends would have left the fox with you.
I am glad you are no longer priased as goddess.
You are three little birds who are most special to us. The birds who sing so beautifully. The birds who always create wonderful bird songs.
We love our little birds ^^
…keep singing..keep shining…and keep smiling…
and if you want to loose faith in something because you are hurt and warned out…that’s fine.
Something doesn’t deserve your warm love, anyway.
Sometimes, I feel like AKTF causes you too much responsibility. Hence, please just let AKTF be our job.
We always keep the faith in JYJ…and…You can always have FAITH in US. We will be with you, always.
…
Is an article ive been waiting to read since this damn thing started BUT it hurts to read this.
Changmin expressed, “We thought we needed to protect TVXQ’s name. When a swarm of geese prepare to migrate, they never forget to make the correct formation. I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock.” WHAT Changmin WHAT? Geese=JYJ. How dare you!!
“TVXQ is a team that was created by SM. Whatever their motive was for withdrawing from the group, we waited for them solve their problems with the company and come back to us.” Uhhhh! Why wud JYJ go back to SM. That company your under has serious problems THAT needs to b fixed.
HoMin u dont support what their doing. Are you blind. Do you know what they were fighthing for. I heard you guys were ALL going to file a lawsuit against SM BUT chickened out at the last minute. But still i loved and respected you HoMin i did both EQUALLY. Now because of this my direction is heading towards JYJ. They supported you and you guys don’t. WTF!
HoMin and JYJ somebody lock them in a room so they can bash each other and understand each other.
JUST HAD TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT GEESE. AHAHAHA MADE MY DAY!
Geese have strong affections for others in their group. If a goose gets sick or is wounded, a couple of other geese may drop out of formation to help and protect him. They will try to stay with the disabled goose until he dies or is able to fly again. They will then either fly together or join another formation to catch up with their group.
I know right?!?! LOL, When I read Changmin’s comment I had to giggle a bit…though initially I was pissed he actually inspired me to read up on geese. My word of advice to him: Know your chit because some of the things that come out of our mouths come back to bite us in the ass. I hope somebody delivers that little fun fact to him. Heck, yeah Changmin, JYJ are like geese, they don’t turn their backs on their formation friends. At the very least tho….at least JYJ can still for a V…HoMin can’t…LOL
I’m back here to this post again ha ha.
I just feel like I wanna add some of my comment about this issue a bit more.
I don’t know whay but I sunddenly feel that if all of this interview is true, the reason behind it might be HoMin and SME create very big TSUNAMI just to wipe away all those JYJ and 5TVXQ just to remain just only hardcore HoMin’s fans. Nice tactic but this is just my 2cent.
I love my JYJ and I will support them.
I would say it is nice tactic if it is HoMin’s secret mission to bring down SM themselves! (and I’m sure they will be able to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs in SM – TVQX if they continue will this kind of hurtful comments!).
i like u cmt so so much hahaha
maybe their album and fans acceptance towards the TVXQ 2nd ACt is not that great so they pour all this sassy stuff, play the victim cards and all? SME even pull JonghyunScandal to bury the attention from their action pulling back their lawsuit over The Beginning distribution. All these shitheads forget the internet now is their biggest hell and internet is JYJ strongest weapon. This war….we fans will fight till death. We are JYJ footsoldiers. SME only have “lifeless robots” where JYJ have us, friends, supporters with soul.
http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_search/search_total.asp?selecturl=total&SearchClassFormWord=goodsSearch&keyword=their+rooms+JYJ
here is the site to buy JYJ album and quite cheap compare to yesasia
Its cheaper a gmarket but you usually paying more than is worth for the shipping there.
I pre-ordered from G-market and it ended up being about the same price with shipping. Only thing better is the album is shipped earlier (17th) and you pay for faster shipping.:D
I pre-ordered the album on G Market (Wisdom House) after comparing the prices on few website (including shipping). I think it depends on your location. Yesasia’s price includes shipping and they give cash coupon for next purchase (the one i got last time was valid for 2 months). For the Music Essay, G Market is still cheaper for SEA countries after adding the shipping cost.
Geese= ChangMin + YunHo + the gangster mentality of SME.
Phoenixes=JYJ+Government institution+Law&order+human rights
LOL i love you (and Junsu is a cute duck-but! dont forget that XD)
I have been waiting for this, but the result is far from what I expected. So if this translation is perfectly right, the message is really clear ” we waited for you (they used the past, not present, not future, so they gave up on waiting?)we stand by SM side, u are the one who leave us, u dont have the right to b TVXQ anymore”. so Homin=SM now? I see.
Changmin seems to b very harsh, (even without the Korean meaning). Yunho, I dont think TVXQ will be ever forgotten, but I dont think what you called “TVXQ” atm is on the right track as you may think. It just creates hurtful memory to me, I have never remembered seeing TVXQ as a dance group or a group with this much of hateful songs and words. the TVXQ I know always full of love to others and hope. If I hear about your hurt and uncomfortable (when JYJ can appear on TV)in another situation I would think different, but with the beginning full of anger and that “message”, It’s difficult to receive.It’s also unclear that I found it hard to persuade me. So now, it’s 100% JYJ, I dont think I can support the current Homin. oh gosh and the Korean translation, I think I just need the English version to make up my mind. The Korean is like some “bang” that crush their whole image.
hey guys I heard that the newspaper had some differences.
Q: “What will you do if you guys can reunite in the next 10 years?”
YH: “Even I must punch them but I will hug and smile “come back and be together again”
He said, ” I will scold and punch them on the fronthead and hug them.” In Korean, it is obviously very rude comment, a comment that an older person who think himself is righteous does to younger one. If I hear that sentence from my friend, I will be angry. And especially in this situation, YH is ignoring all the reasons why JYJ is fighting for, and just putting forward SM’s position.
Mean you do a really bad thing and i have to teach your lesson first????
It’s weird. “If you want DBSK to reunite, comeback to SME” ==> totally pissed me off.
if i’m not mistaken == jaejoong is OLDER than yunho no? now where’s your manners jung yunho?
@choco Jea is younger than Yun 1 yaer
@ OMGsun Jae is the oldest actually. The oldest supposed to be the leader in Kpop group but since JJ is honest and blunt they make Yunho as the leader since (long,long,long time a go) he was a very good mannered spoken type of guy. So much for being a leader though with this kind of crap he’s been talking about lately.
@OMGsun ,Jae is older than Yunho just few days:Jae was born in JAN 26 1986 ,and YUNHO was born in FEB 06 1986…
really?!
because when i read it, i didn’t see anything wrong with it…my interpretation of it was that they’ll air out their issues like men normally do (physical) and then move on as friends.. wow! thanks for explaining.
i guess international fans need you guys to enlighten us since we aren’t familiar with how the korean culture works.
i seriously think delusional stans need to open their eyes really wide~~~~~~ stop it!
True this.
I feel sick and tired when I go to other OT5 fansite and reading delusional comments for wanting JYJ go back to TVXQ, means back to SME, even after this interview of HoMin. *shake head really hard*
I am glad..JYJ’s hearts will be released!
JYJ ..you are free man ^_________^
Sorry but Changmin ah you make me sad. I’m JJ bias but i like you too. I’m so disappointed
“We thought we needed to protect TVXQ’s name. When a swarm of geese prepare to migrate, they never forget to make the correct formation. I don’t think it’s right when a few of the geese who chose to broke away still considered themselves as part of the flock.”
Okay, one more rude comment like this and I’ll say byebye HoMin and TVXQ, welcome JYJ..DISSAPOINTED!!!
seriously OT5 fansites like SYC, ONETVXQ NEED TO TRANS their articles more correctly == don’t keep binding international fans eyes to believe the delusional! they need to know that IT’S NOT THE SAME ANYMORE! u cannot support all 5 members when reality doesn’t let u! JYJ and HM views are completely DIFFERENT! lucky thing i’m not delusion to actually believed things will go well == this is only the beginning and i shall stand WITH JYJ AND FIGHT!
HM u just make yourselves clear that u don’t need JYJ anymore and i’m pretty sure since you’re oh so confident to carry the name dbsk then continue to do so == but please have some respect for JYJ it’s a common manner
no?
Yes, I officially say “bye bye” to HoMin and all the OT5 english fansite.
After this interview of HoMin, I’m just officially have my stand as a JYJ-fans.
TVXQ that now exists is not the TVXQ I used to love. Sad as it sounds, I’m just not delusional as some who still “believe in TVXQ5”.
I’m now at ease and fully ready for my “new beginning” with JYJ.
If we, fans, feel hurt after reading HoMin’s interview, I can’t imagine how bad JYJ is hurting right now. Maybe lack of communication leads misunderstanding between them. But seriously, HoMin should have not said such harsh words towards JYJ who had been with them through 7-year up& downs.
TT^TT
ok i might give up on them as TVXQ 5 but please…please remain friends…TT
its what the comapny did that you guys apart…then why are you guys…? T^T
They are sad people.
Have they become real puppets?
They sold their bodies and souls to the devil thus they no longer have any feelings.
To think comments like this coming out of some people who had spent almost half of their lives with is just disturbing.
I wonder what SM did to them.
Gave them better contracts than previously or part of the company like Ms stupid-unpopular boa???
Reading countless comments above by fans brought tears to my eyes..
What Changmin said about geese, feels like a knife stab through my heart.. and what yunho said about KYHD meaning, its a double blow.. a leader of 8 yrs, a hyung (other dan jj) that other 4 members look up to, how can he said that.. no matter how painful homin are dealing w, the persons they are telling this to is their brothers, who have trained with them for so many years, gg through countless tough trainings.. what happened to the memories when they cried during PROUD in 5in the black live.. yunho, u even teared up when u saw chunnie cried..
yes i understand that u have to show gratitude to the hand who feeds u, but didnt u realise that u are a puppet to them? u have alr earned so much for them, u have alr paid them.. and w ur statements like this, if JYJ were to read this, do you think theres gg back?? do u even realise that whatever JYJ do, its for the sake of 5 of u, able to pull out of SM and have better days ahead.. susu’s tweet alr hurt us and now ur statements are the last blow.. u 2 have been very quiet over this, however members who left (JYJ) keep showing their love to u 2 and the fans.. what did u 2 do??
can u even rmbr they wrote the song “W” for u two and the fans? wake up ur ideas! u 2 arent even TVXQ, only homin. TVXQ in our hearts = 5 of them.. if u wanna carry cont singing, get a new name and new fanclub.. cassies are for ppl who love the 5 of them… (this is for stupid SME)
*im jyj-biased since supporting dbsk 2 yrs back, but still, the knife pierced through my heart so deeply, seeing the friendship and love gone to waste like that*
aww dw. All of us feel the way you do *HUGS*
We’ll get through this! Because we are STRONG and we believe!