- @masatomatsuura: It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally. RT @saran_jj Can’t you really contact them? u should be able to do it if only u had intent to, cus even Ayu (=Hamasaki Ayumi) or Mr.Urata have been in contact with them. How can u have left situation unimproved without taking any steps since announcement of their act suspension? u r too heartless, aren’t u?
- @masatomatsuura: Honestly, I have no idea about it for now. RT @michunmn Good morning, sir..do u suppose u can live to see the day when five of them have come back??
- @masatomatsuura: yes, I am. RT @yuchun_aesun Korean show biz seems as if wrapped in mystery, tho..is it their standard to abandon and never forgive ones who once rebelled against them? r u the person who may forgive the others?
- @masatomatsuura: Agree (laughter) RT @J_kumi_J: u and Jae r alike in the point that u can’t help telling true things even if u know it would lead to u being bashed. We fans and u r sharing feeling of frustration caused by being unable to do anything, aren’t we?
Source: @masatomatsuura
Translated by: @quinttee
Shared by: JYJ3
“It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally. ”
I call BS on this reply.
SECOND…
stop feeding us BS matsuura.
and oh please… you are nothing, NOTHING, like jae. Jaejoong is a million percent better person than you. he will never stoop down to your level and play with humans and their emotions because of greed for money like you did to those poor boys.
please ,stop do the asking with a professional liar…
it makes me sick
me too
can BE PLEASE stop talking to this SOB?
He’s the exact reason why JYJ can’t perform in Japan!
erm….he’s a drama king. Nothing new. I have a question though….I heard this hush hush gossip/rumors (so dx take this seriously eh girls) about THSK conflict + SME + JYJ suspension etc had a thing to do with internal conflict between Max and Chiba. From the rumors (take note this is rumors) that Chiba is on JYJ sides and Max on the other side. They said that its a power clash between this two corporates. Ayu and Naoya (AAA) leader were said to be on Chiba side as well. So JYJ is like a black goat in this clash. I dx remember the source of this rumors thoought. I actually hope JYJ3 can do some digging since what we know so far is the conflict within K-pop but the blocked in Japan seems to be overlook since people tying it with SME relationship with AVEX that cause the JYJ situation in Japan. Can anyone tell me about this, im so interested to know what exactly happen in Japan, its like it was left hang wired. It was freaky since the Japan part is like so…Quite.
really ?? well, since suspension of jyj’s activity, i haven’t seen chiba-san tweeting or saying anything. it was always this guy, matsuura-san, and his tweets were always like whining it made people tired of him. i wonder where’s chiba-san is, cause i used to like him.
i dunno since its a rumor. I haven’t seen yet any post that actually cover the real deal behind JYJ activity’s suspension in Japan. The fact that Chiba-san become all quite make me wonder as well. I believe the boys are closer to Chiba compare to Max coz well Max show off their relationship a lot like pictures etc so i just got a hunch he just advertising them/doing marketing plot instead of genuine relationship at that time. With Chiba i kinda off feel its kind of sincere. I dunno. Just my feeling though.
I think he looks like a “DRAMA…QUEEN ” more than a “DRAMA ..KING” himself:)
Heard something like that. But also heard that reason why JYJ can’t promote or release anything in Japan is because they are still in contracts with Avex. Avex dropped them but didn’t terminate the contracts so it leaves JYJ in a hard stage because they’ll have to wait till it expire first, before they are able to do anything. Avex is evil!
I think calling Avex evil is a bit too much rhetoric. Let’s save that for the real evil (SME). Max had to show his belly to SME; he did it by making a scapegoat of JYJ and C-JeS. All that was really prevented was the boys promoting “The Beginning” in Japan. They went all over Asia and to the US, Yoochun finished SKKS, and Junsu won his role in ToH. As long as the contract was only for a year, I think Avex could more fairly be called…gutless.
Nope, i’m gonna place Avex up there with SM in the same level. SM shoot JYJ from the front, and Avex shoot them from the back.
how long did JYj sign their contract with Avex? and how much time left?
actually as long as the contract is fair i dont mind them going back to avex
(SM is a different matter)
i think Avex is just business honestly, and JYJ are still making royalties off anything they sell, plus avex really knows how to give them good songs.
If avex could have both SMe and JYJ i’m sure they’d want both
@juno: but Avex has a relationship with SME so I don’t see that happening.
Imo, even if it’s just business, it’s still shady business with how everything went down.It’s not like it ended on a technicality, JYJ was put into association with the mafia, which can be career killing for an artist.
It was a little personal imo.
@JUNO That’s a good point & IA: if Avex could have both, they would want them. It makes me wonder if Avex was angling too hard, after signing JYJ’s separate contract last year, to get THSK5 again out of JYJ-Avex + HoMin-SME, and SME pushed back very hard by signing other acts to different Jpn companies. So Avex had to throw JYJ under the bus. We know pretty much Avex chose SME over JYJ — the question I’ve had is why Avex signed JYJ separately at all when SME were gonna be hardline about it. Avex must’ve thought they had more leverage than they did? Or underestimated SME’s arrogance and obstinance? Or thought they could talk JYJ into returning to SME (brrr)?
Or they didn’t care about any of that and just wanted to squeeze more product out of 3 members of THSK while they had the chance. That’s very possible, too.
@Juno
We don’t want Avex anymore. He called JYJ gangsters (Indirectly) in a newspaper. He’s worse than SME. He acted like he’ll support the boys, but dropped them like hot potatoes for SME.
@sakana17 my thoughts exactly
@really? i also dont want them to go back to avex (its def not the I.D.S) but honestly if they have to face a cock blocking situation in Japan if other agencies refuse to sign them, the boys will be hurt the most, and i hope J-ent is better regulated when it comes to artists rights and this doesnt happen.
@bmw81187
*facepalm* i forgot about the mafia thing
@ Voldagoose If Avex shot them in the back, that’s because they were already walking away. (To which I say, YES!) I’m just hoping they took the warnings seriously and got a vest on.
@ JUNO As far as artists’ rights go, Japan is on par with the rest of the world. However, it’s not an artist’s right to be signed with a company. That’s a decision the company makes, and since many Japanese companies now have ties to Korean artists, it could be a problem. (I see that as being the issue more than Avex, although SME was the problem there, too.)
Ok call me crazy but I don’t understand what these fans think that they will counter by asking this why to take JYJ back! From the first moment that he said “It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally.” was clear TO ME that this guy doesn’t give a shit about JYJ fans or how much they want to see JYJ in Japan again! PEOPLE FACE IT! THIS GUY DIDN’T MADE UP THE STUPID EXCUSE FOR DROPPING JYJ FOR NOTHING! HE IS TRYING TO KISS SM ASS ONCE AGAIN AND JYJ WAS CLEARLY IN HIS WAY! THATS WHAT BIGEAST FANS NEED REALIZE! GOD I LIVE IN CANADA AND I KNOW THIS! SO WHY JAPANESE FANS DON`T!!?? sigh~ need to calm down! I am just tired of hearing this guy BULLSHIT! and YES I didn’t use BS!!
i don’t know either… why japan always lack of information about how severe jyj condition at this point…
sad sad… BIGEAST WAKEUP!!!!! JYJ is the VICTIM HERE!!!! btw guys you need to check this out… hopeforjyj(.)wordpress(.)com
it’ll enlighten you!!!!
Japanese fans is very sweet natured..
Don’t wanna to make a big scene..
Some of them already move on i am sure, but they still support all 5.
By move on, i mean they already know it’s difficult to see tohoshinki as 5 reunite again.
i want to see the DOTs thing work.. i hope it will tell BE..but they might get heart attack if they given all informations on a one shoot…
@yuu_kyuuin.. heart attack indeed
I know people are still angry at Matsuura but I hope no irrational JYJ fans decide to send hate tweets. It only reflects badly on our fandom.
i say ignore the ignorrant fool
BE need to snap back and to some research. Please BE need to pull K-Cassies already. Why were they so clueless about this? Its been 2years already. Are they seriously clueless about this?
Yup.Most BE are still OT5 fans.
They don’t know.
BUT, I heard behind doors, there are talks going on about if BE (fanclub) will support THSK5 or THSK2.
Just a rumor I heard though, but if it’s true it’ll take a while for BE to decide it’s official stance.
Hopefully it’ll be for THSK5.
Can BigEast decide this for themselves? Isn’t BE an Avex sponsored fanclub like Cassiopeia? I don’t think JYJ would have any problem sharing their fans 😀 but SME might not stand for it. They don’t seem to learn very quickly.
funny how it’s just option between TH5K or HM. Wow, didn’t know BE love HM that much.
JYJ deserve better fans. They will have new fans once they start promotion in Japan.
@voldagoose: IKR?
It’s frustrating to watch BE’s actions.
I’d hope for THSK5, too, but… I’m not sure how, in practical terms, that will happen if Avex doesn’t promote JYJ and even if JYJ can find another Japanese company after their Avex contract expires. Because it seems like Avex has a lot of control over Bigeast as an organization, and I’d be very surprised if Avex would work with another Japanese company (one representing JYJ) to promote JYJ to the fans when they themselves decided not to.
But yeah, lately I’ve seen comments from BE after SM Town Tokyo… they say they are OT5 fans, and it’s like the split doesn’t have any meaning to them, they seem to think THSK5 will be back soon. It’s boggling, but we gotta remember Japan had OT5 until April 2010, and JYJ until end of August 2010. While Korea lost DBSK5 (I mean for appearances together, recordings together, etc.) in 2009.
Are those fans delusional? Gosh!! Stop talking to him about JYJ anymore!!
And to put him and Jae in the same sentence is a huge insult to Jae!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OMGOSH A+
IKR !!! what does he and Jae have in common??? NOTHING!!!!
I dont understand how they can still be so naive and talk to him about such matter
it should be clear as day considered the way Avex treated the boys
mindboggling indeed =_=
Eeer…. are this guy really the CEO of Avex? He doesn’t sound like one…
lol at your comment, I must agree, I don’t think he is the person that sent these tweets, maybe his secretary is doing it for him.
Wah wah wah wah…
😀 That’s still funny.
Gosh
Can’t they just stop asking him questions relating to JYJ. It is clear cut that he dropped them and he won’t do anything for them in japan. What is done is done move forward.
If only OSCAR even existed in Japan he would get one for sure…
Big liar n his excelent acting skill…
I feel sorry for BE actually. They may not be very well informed about what’s happened, but at least we know that they still love and care for the boys and want them to come back to Japan soon. What i’m more concerned is that once they find out more about the truth behind the rumours, what will their stance be?
if they are smart, and know how to use their judgement, then JYJ of course, but if they are different, then we all know the answer.
if BE went the other direction, I’d anti them.
ya, but I think BE are smart and look at all the ads they are doing for JYJ now
“SHOUTING OUT TO ALL BIGEAST”!!!
Stop tweeting Avex about the boys. It makes the boys look pathetic. Don’t give Avex the chance to laugh at the boys anylonger. Move on from Avex!!!
i don’t want JYJ to go back to AVEX. will reconsider if they change the new CEO! after all those lies this guy doesn’t deserve JYJ, not at all. What I want is contract to end and him let go of JYJ. His action is clearly show the whole world (if you’re not blind) that he’s treating them(JYJ) & fans inhuman..as money making tool.
maybe, just maybe.. the contract is coming to an expiration. you know how artists must release sth: album, dvd, before the contract expires. and i think there’s high possibility that the ‘memories in 2010’ is exactly that, since they already suspense JYJ, that’s basically the only thing they can release.
why else would they suddenly release this after a year and a half, and why else would JYJ suddenly starts talking more about resuming activities in japan.
I’m really hoping that the contract expires soon. Hopefully, it ends this April 2011 – since it would be around that time they signed an exclusive contract with Avex. But does anyone really know how long their exclusive contract with Avex is?
This would be awesome, maybe thats why their final promotions for the beginning were scheduled around Feb
what does ot5 mean?? Someone please enlighten me!
it’s means the one who still support all 5 members…
yah.. beware there also hypocrite OT5.. -_- and the genuine one…
This guy…u r a ceo damn it! act like one!
a bit curious tho’ why all of a sudden is he changing his tune? It seems less bitter.. the part where he said he’d forgive them and the fact that he went all smiley when being compared to jaejoong. I sense something bad.
Of coz he’ll be all smilely when compared to Jae!! He must have thought he was in heaven then.
To place them on the same level is just OMG Sun!!! Poor Jae~~~
The part he was all smiley/lol and said sth about forgiveness, I thought he was PATRONIZING!
I just hope fans would stop doing this, I mean asking him questions don’t make anything better. But I kinda understand why he reply “It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally”, If you are now in a good term with SM (by having HoMin back in Japanese Music Industry) you wouldn’t want to contact JYJ to make things even worse. It’s all about Business.
If fans didn’t ask him any questions, he wouldn’t be bother to reply so….leave him alone.
All we can do is support JYJ and ignore something that upset us sometimes.
This is just my 2cent!
just know from allkpop homin no one in orichon chart.how our boys now?i hope they fine and comfortable with their life,just want they happy as a human,do they like,they want and they love(in +way?i hope)jyj?how are you now?hope they visit this site and read the comment?hope…..
JYJ may face a lot of difficulties right now but i think they are happy with their lives. Actually, I’ve never seen Yoochun this happy. In the past, he always looked so tired, spaced out. Look at him now, i can feel happiness from his smile, his speech, he is more cheerful enjoying his life and doing what he wants. As for Junsu, i’m really glad that he now has time to spend with his family. Also, he can focus 100% for his musical. just imagine if Junsu is still in TVXQ5 with the hectic schedule, i’m sure he would be exhausted. And I feel that Jaejoong is now much closer to the fans. He shares his feelings with us, cares about us and he seems more outgoing than in the past.
As for Homin, somehow I feel really sorry for them with their hectic schedule. I cannot even imagine how Yunho could deal with his drama with a schedule like this. And at the same time, i’m glad that our boys no longer suffer a schedule like that.
My thoughts:
– Why are fans making a fool of themselves? It makes us look pathetic. -> There’s no way around it, sorry.
– I hope his answer “It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally”, is clear enough for fans to not ask further questions about this matter.
– I find it interesting that BE said to be OT5, but the sales record said HM > JYJ (The…, The Beginning), maybe the price.
– I find it interesting that all fiasco about lyrics & choreography doesn’t have any impact at all on BE.
cause either BE is naive to believe in HM or plain not supportive of JYJ that’s all *shrugs*
I’m more inclined to believe the former rather than the latter.
Blind trust is dangerous imo.
sigh i don’t know…BE got me going crazy~~they’re lovely in supporting 5 but wishing a reunion now that’s…too much…things are beyond anyone control
OMG U GUYS!! I READ FROM TWITTER FUKU-SAN PLANS TO HOLD A HOT SPRING PARTY FOR THE 85ers!!!!
IS THIS REAL LIFE??? 85ers CLUB TOGETHER IN A HOT SPRING. DEFINITELY NEKKID. JAE I WANT SOME DRUNKEN PIC TWEETS
85ers also include YamaPi and Yuu. *_*
Jae, please be in Japan for this awesome hot spring party?
Ok…. WHICH HOTSPRING?????
@_____@
we need cameras there *-*
im more interested to check on Ryo more than Yamapi and Yuu man that man is smoking~~~~ and of course Jaejoong
guys i know i am off topic.. but i badly want to share my feeling.. i feel like hating homin now.. ugh poor my brain and heart. i want to meet homin badly and whining and rant and everything… i can’t control it! i want to be free from all this hate.. i feel shame on myself cz jyj family and jyj full of love and here i am full of hate and anger towards homin.. i wanna punch yunho face so badly.. help give me the reason not to have this feeling.. give me the reason..
You should probably take a step back from the situation if it’s making you this upset. If anything, fandom should exist as a positive supplement to your life – your life shouldn’t revolve around it. As much as I disagree with Homin, there is no denying that we can never know the whole story of what’s going on… only partial truths and the effects of what happened. They had their reasons for sticking around, and there are reasons why other people are supporting them. That doesn’t make them “right” in the sense of what we may think as right, but that doesn’t mean we should degrade ourselves and become antis.
If all else fails, just think of JYJ. Let’s try not to lose our cool in this mess. That’s what happened to some Homin fans and now they are giving the rest of their fandom plus Homin a bad rep. Let’s not go down that same path.
Support, but support meaningfully. Defend and fight back, but don’t use dirty tactics… At the end of the day, you’ll feel much better about yourself and JYJ.
They aren’t worth the hate tbh. You reserve hate for someone you still have attachment to.
Just be indifferent, that’s more effective cause it doesn’t give homin free press from you and you’re more able to Express your love for JYJ.^^
@jungu and bmw.. thanks guys… i just reveal something about homin today and made me go all nuts and i went to allkpop seeing jyj got bashed again and again.. i really need to stop going there.. i got masive headache and heartache as well.. just curious about how our boys in the eyes of allkpop consumer… i guess i have to manage my heart and try to ignore homin fully… cz tbh i still go and seek their doing… thank you guys..
@bmw81187
Agree 100%. They are not worth ‘hating’. I personally feel sorry for them, because at the end of the day, they have to look themselves in the mirror and then lay their heads down on their pillows and go to sleep.
A conscience is a funny thing. It has a habit of sneaking up on you when you least expect it. The two of them will have to answers to theirs’ one day.
I look at JaeJoong, YooChun, and Junsu and I see three young men who know they have to go through hards times and are willing to pay the price. You don’t get a more clear picture of courage than that. I would rather expend my energy, thought, care, and most importantly, MY MONEY, on them!!!
Wasting time and thought on HoMin is so conterproductive, not worth the effort. Avoid reading ugly comments by ugly people, they don’t deserve your time and thought.
unnie…don’t go allkpop…you’ll get yourself hurt only =) trust me…come here often~~just feel the LURVE ;)~~
I never go to allkpop. It always seems to be hateful. I realized yesterday that I can’t stand going to HoMin’s KYHD video anymore because of the comments. Had the biggest argument with a HoMin fan who thinks of us as we think of them, who thinks of JYJ as we think of HoMin. Who fails to understand what other HoMin fans do to JYJ. It’s just very tiring.
When I am here, and other JYJ places, and focusing mainly on JYJ.. I feel more at peace.. It’s sad, ’cause I want to love HoMin and follow them a little more but their fans just make it impossible for me to be at peace doing it.
@jungu thanks,yes i can see they enjoy their activity,jj looks fullof love in his face at fans meeting,but i more worry bout him than yc n js,coz he’s looks fragile to me.hope they allways fine.
“It’s the fact that I can’t contact them personally”
What kind of CEO of an international entertainment company doesn’t know the phone number of his artists?
If so, I think AVEX must change this stupid manager! Now!!