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JYJ3 
Damn!
Wow I think they should sue SM for using the name TVXQ without their permission and ask for a share on the profit LOL coz if what DNBN wrote is true then HM shouldnt even be using TVXQ without their approval..
JYJ pretty much has gave their approval for HoMin to use TVXQ by not suing. They said they were disappointed, but that was all. I think suing at this point would be very counter-productive. They’ve taken the highroad, and I approve.
And it lets me be outraged at SME for them. That’s always fun.
they should not just stand there and let SME bully them around I say if it’s legal sue them as well..
Being always mad at SM is kinda tiring too..
but who am i to know what’s better or not for them..
that’s for them to decide i guess..im just an expectator here..waiting for their lives to unfold so i can watch LOL
ahh life of a fangirl..
JYJ fighting!
Perfectly LOGICAL reasons behind their stance.
Just wow! Kudos to DNBN for stepping up and taking this stance with all the cr*p SME is doing.
~sigh~ now now SM YOU guys should know better than breaking YOUR OWN RULES!! XD!
wow..been waiting for this translation..It’s been 5 years since I knew and favored Dong Bang Shin Ki, while reading I can’t help but look back at those 5 years and cry as to why it has to reach this point..
I hope by March 15, the court would have a decision, and not prolong the agony–not only of JYJ but also of us, the fans–any longer..
..and may I just add, while reading, their 3rd Mirotic Asia Concert Tour song’s playing on my iPod (SKY)…*sobs*
Let’s feel all the HM fans stalking this page and go and distort more facts LOL
O_O
woooow SM! they dug their own grave its a little harsh but they have every reason to do that. i’ve seen alot of sites to convert to pro JYJ and little homin sites
I luv the way DNBN writes their declaration, it likes in independence of declaration in the US lol. I sure hope the court will rule in JYJ favors and don’t let SM appeal so this case can be closed soon.
WOW!!!!!
Finally I can read in english, that’s very logical reason,
I become fans of DBSK last year but it’s still heart, I don’t know what fans who became their fans in 7 year feel,
Hope this March everything will settle and I can see my boy in music show
Errr…can u please tell me bout it?Pweaseee..
I can’t read it clearly..I use my HP rite now…
Or maybe..please the admin rewrite it again?pretty please with the cherry on top…
finally the translation out. ^^
should I be happy or what? SME succeeded to divide our fandom.
I’m a JYJ biased, but somehow this let a bit sad in me.
but we have to move on, and JYJ need us most right now.
I got teary eyes but I had a smile too.
since sme trying to dis jyj, I already made my mind not to support the 2 and the company and the people in it.
not fair? I think it’s fair,
truly speaking, T5VXQ is the group who made me fall in love with korean music and japanese music but honestly JYJ is the one who made me dislike it. *sad*
when I love T5VXQ I love the entire SMtown, the other korean boybands or girlbands or any korean singer.
I will watch some shows when the SMfam there and laugh with them. (at that time I think they are super fun people)
but lately though I said to myself don’t watch them you will not gonna like them, but I want to test my self how far I dislike them. so one day I watch TV (kbsw) and saw them (sme’s artistes) made some jokes, usually I will laughing along with the others artistes in it but that day for the entire show I can’t even made a little smile on my face, till the show end, I feel nothing. *sigh*
then I realize something, only JYJ is a matter to me now.
I will not gonna love any korean music, not until the korean music industry will treat JYJ fairness.
maybe this is only me though, because I have friends who still love them all. LoL. but the truth is I do have friends who stand for JYJ from the start too.
so this is about choice. and my choice (and a few of my friends) is Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu. >.<
There are some excellent Korean musicians out there that aren’t part of K-pop. Go to YouTube and check out 10cm, Standing Egg, and Walrus. And those are just the three I remember off the top of my head without checking notes. (Broccoli You Too. Yoochun was listening to them.)
These are the independent groups, the ones that don’t get on the music show dominated by idols. If you still want to stay with Korean music, these are the groups we should be supporting.
sounds like you know many great korean musicians.i don’t like the fact that korean rely much on their idols
I love Broccoli and walrus… ^^
I actually enjoy listening radio21 even they are not play JYJ/TVXQ song.. it also have many good korean songs… and it’s not like current Kpop song.. it’s good song nevertheless.. i enjoy it^^
I agree on being an independent group not appearing on music shows… I just love it this way since most idols on music shows these days don’t attract me at all. I do hope they get on various programs out there to put their names on Korean map tho. They are too lovable and hilarious to let it go unnoticed…
Off topic but yeah, Walrus is good. I had to go to Korea and work there during a theatre festival before I knew that they have non k pop/non idol music other than trot. I guess because of the language barrier for a lot of people and also because these other artistes are not seen on mainstream media overseas, we hardly get to know about them.
i have same feeling with you had been write.now i feel empty whenever i saw sm e artist,u used like suju,i used like shinee(but i never interest in girls group,no class in my eyes)im never gave my couriusity in my life time bout korean music,(im now 32 and live in hk,where all u want u can get)i never looked on tvxq,but when i discovered jyj,im realise jyj are the most incredible genius precius genuine high quality KOREAN artist i ever know among those acean hallyu artist,suddenly,my heart,my soul,my time,my brain,all of me are full of three LETTER!!!!!!!!!!”JYJ”!!!!!!
yeah… actually i act in the same way like you… before those suing things I used to like some of the SM artists such as Super Junior but now I’m fed up with all of them (especilly after they said junsu is ingratitude after the tweeter things)… But I’m still listen to some k-POP music… although didn’t as often as last time I did…
oh my, we’re the same!…my friends thought i’m crazy or suffering from something since I always liked the whole SMTown, but after the Junsu tweet incident and most especially the way they reacted to it, ganging up on Junsu, I just can’t say I still like them, especially the ones who directly addressed Junsu (Boa, Shindong, Sungmin, Jay, etc)…anyway, let’s just hope and pray for our JYJ!
me too, especially after the twitter incident. I kind of realized what kind of ppl they are, that just turned me off.
well… from the very beginning i never try to open my heart for other kpop idols, my only love is T5vxq, but now… after interview accident i moved on… JYJ only!!!!
LOL I cringe every time I hear or read the word “family” that comes from a SM artist.
I do want to share it to OT5 i-fans, seriously, I just want them to stop being delusional and saying that K-fans overreacts
yeah you right, they still delusional, do you think JYJ wound will heal easily with their call family statement,
if you trully love them stop forced them
I’m sad .
But they drove us to this decision. There’s no other way.
HM’ll be a part of TVXQ act 1 forever .Nothing more .
And now, I’ll try to block everything about them.
hun i’ve blocked homin for the past two weeks which felt nice because i didnt have to see the fanwars that are usually on those pages. all i worried about was school and JYJ but until today i found out about homins activities which made me alittle mad BUT im ignoring it
like you TVXQact1 is the one i will always remember and i still look up videos of the past
I don’t watch/listen anything related to HoMin, not because I don’t like them but it ain’t feel right to me.
I feel weird everything I see both of them doing various kind of activities. It’s fine for me to know that they continue using the name of TVXQ but deep down in my heart I know that it ain’t feel right at all.
I download everything about HoMin too but I don’t watch/listen to it lol. I know I’m weird but I can’t help myself.
For JYJ, I dare to say that they are my bias and I love them so much. They will always have my support no matter what. I feel at ease seeing them together rather than seeing TVXQ act 2 and their interview is just so annoying sometimes.
I’ve been waiting patiently for the translation to come out, and it has been well worth the wait. When reason comes to the forefront, nothing else need be said.
SME, trying to shove something down peoples’ throats is never a good idea. They might not like you trying to do that, and will turn around and show you why they don’t like it.
For guys who are supposedly very business savvy, you keep making a lot of big mistakes, ones that will cost you in the long run. 🙂
Do you remember the whole “New Coke”…thing in 1985? (Disaster or very clever ploy to change the “Classic Coke” formula — you be the judge.)
TVXQ is the New Coke of K-pop.
I didn’t exist in 1985 >”< But I remember over hearing about it throughout my life by people. Any place I can look it up? Businesses always do that and they suck at it.
I HATE the new Pepsi logo.
@ Shhh Wikipedia is always good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke
Oh so it was that controversial? Wow.
I sure do remember. 🙂 I was one of those who thought it sucked too. I liked both Coke and Pepsi, and it really was not a hardship to abandon Coke. Once it made the change back, there was this sense – I told you so! 🙂
But when they “changed back” it wasn’t the same. That’s when the replaced the cane sugar with high fructose corn syrup. That’s why there was a suspicion that the New Coke was a front.
That aside, it does illustrate beautifully that it isn’t just the brand that’s important, it’s what the brand is attached too.
And JYj is now the Pepsi Generation! 🙂
I’m kinda regretting starting this analogy. I shoulda found something a little more healthy. 😉
SM really are push the fans to the edge to choose side like this U_U
I hope SM and his association leaned more to respect.. currently i am working make chronologies of events and occurrences happened after law suit (just for my personal understanding) gosh.. i don’t have idea.. even i just write until September 2009, it make my blood boil… i even haven’t reach november, when that ugly conferences begin… ><
I definitely will read this when I have time.
I have to study…grr.
@Eliza
You beat me to it. I had it on copy when I responded to you, and was then going to send SHHH the link too.:-)
so many people are taking sides…i really don’t know what to think.i don’t want to choose sides,i love both JYJ and HoMin,but sometimes its hard when people around you are picking sides already..
this is JYJ site..
I shouldn’t visit this site..
I’m so disappoint by your comment .. mwo? blaming homin?
do you know.. on homin site.. we didn’t bash JYJ..
Hi,
…If you’re implying that there’s HoMin bashing here, I don’t see it (and I am a person who hates bashing of anyone). As for ‘blaming HoMin’, I have no comment on that (I have my own views that I won’t share here) but I hope you realize that the statement above was released by DNBN – one of the largest Korean TVXQ-OT5 websites.
Let me say this again. OT5. 5-TVXQ. Not solely JYJ. Not solely HoMin.
“do you know.. on homin site.. we didn’t bash JYJ..”
Oh I beg to differ.
And I suggest you read properly, I see no bashing in both dnbn announcement above and the comments in here. Don’t throw around false accusations, it’s not very nice honey…
Hey, I dont see anyone bashing HoMin here. LOL!
If you dont like coming here, feel free to close this page forever. Bye~
deary please check youtube check soompi check allkpop…….i have enough drama…this decision is made by one of TVXQ biggest korean fan site…they took a difficult one as they really do love all five but neutrality won’t help in this situation, Silence only helps the torment never the tormented….
and which part that we’re bash homin?
come on dear, are you sure that homin’s fans never bash JYJ?
maybe you never go to AKP, don’t you know how I really sad with their comment to JYJ?
In here people more have brain to think logically, in here people comment with knowledge not with emotion,
LOL, what’s said/done here is nothing compared to “other” sites. And it’s not even bashing! This is an OFFICIAL declaration from DNBN, not something made up or twisted to “influence” others. But, since you brought up HoMin sites …..
I used to support both until one day I went to a site supposedly containing the “truth” 😀 (I should think it’s pretty obvious which site I’m referring to!) Anyways, I was TOLD either I’m with them or against them. Since I wasn’t bashing, I was against them! That there was no such thing as being a fan of both because ….. blah blah blah. Anyways, my point is that forcing ANY fan is wrong!!!
BTW, this isn’t bashing. If you want to see bashing, go back to HoMin sites!!! Good bye!
owh really? erm…care to tell details of it? especially about a certain Hotel Girls actions…
Kiddo,
Hear no evil, see no evil, write no evil. From ajhumma JYJ/DBSK fan.
daaaaaang! DNBN just back slapped Sment. across the face ! ROTFL!
Its true HoMin can’t use that name with out JYJ’s consent.
and cassies belong to the 5 member band.
TVXQ will doubtfully ever come back. JYJ would have to apologize and crawl back to SM. OR HoMin would have to go to JYJ and leave SM. , I highly doubt that SM will give to JYJ’s request.
Now that thats been said can JYJ sing some of their older songs that were sung during their TVXQ years? Because Junsu, Jaejoong and Yuchun wrote/ composed some of those songs. Wouldn’t that mean they are it’s legal owners as well?
DO they have the right to sing some of them at concerts?
Unfortunately, no. SME has that ‘little thingy’ in the contract that says the management company has the copyright rights to everything. That’s why they are so batshit about losing to JYJ. I’m not a lawyer, but my best guess, contract voided, like it never existed, JYJ will be in the position of getting those copyright rights and royalty rights back.
i was wondering how long have all of you been a fan of dbsk. this year will be my seventh year, and i just don’t understand how some people easily divide theirselves as jyj fans or homin fans. i can’t never see myself doing this sort of things. or maybe some of you are not dbsk’s fans in the first place.
are you korean??
Being a fan since the beginning doesn’t make you wiser than other fans. Well, i hate when some fans think just because they’ve been a fan for more years than others, their love for TVXQ is definitely bigger and they are superior or something. You have your opinion, JYJ fans have their own opinions too. Please respect us. There’s no need to judge our love for the TVXQ5 like that. In fact, you are a fan like us too so how come you have the right to bring us down like that. Being like this doesn’t prove that you love them more than we do.
Aldo note that the TVXQ that Homin are carrying right now is not the TVXQ5 that we love. The TVXQ5 group that we once knew is in a hiatus. In fact, TVXQ2 and JYJ are two different groups. I am a TVXQ5’s fan but i am not a fan of TVXQ2 ( there’s no personal reasons, i just don’t like their music). As for JYJ, i love their music and i support them as a JYJ fan, not a TVXQ5’s fan. Does it make me a bad fan for not liking everything ?
And you are right that some of us are not TVXQ5’s fans in the first place. Well, this is JYJ fansite, what do you expect?
Actually, I’ve been a TVXQ5’s fan for more than 5 years (yes, shorter than you) but i can’t never see myself judging other fans’ love for TVXQ5 like you do.
some one is still going no where. move on girl. open your eyes and ears.
Love is love, doesnt matter how long you have known the band, as long as you show supports. I dont think there is a senority system in a fanclub here.
i’ve been dbsk’s fan for 4 years, and this will be my fifth year as a fan. granted that it wasn’t longer than you have, but i still consider myself a huge fan of them. i went to their concerts and bought all their merchandises. in fact i bought multiple copies of their albums just to show my support.
when the lawsuit started, i felt cheated as a consumer. i couldn’t believe i was supporting the company that oppress the 5 boys i love with all my heart, so i stopped buying their products. it’s a personal choice. i still looked forward to the activities of the HM, but after their comeback, i know that in order to support HM, i’d have to support SME too. and i don’t want to do that, not when SME is putting JYJ down like what they are doing right now. HM’s statements after their comeback are words against JYJ, and as a fan of TVXQ!5, i couldn’t accept this.
i’m not saying that you’re wrong for choosing to support all 5, but do not look down on fans who have made their choices to support 3/2. we all have rights to love who we love, and to support whoever we support.
in this case, we at jyj3 support all 3 members of JYJ. most of us here, if not all, are taking a stance of indifference towards HM. we don’t go out and spread words of hate towards the 2, we’re only loving JYJ more here. of course it’s hard to ‘un’love a person you’ve loved for years, and no one is asking you to do that to any of the members. i’m just asking you to respect those who’ve had a change of heart and not imply that we’re not ‘true’ dbsk fans in the first place.
Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better than you did.
i just love how you say things bb…
amen to all you said! ^^
off topic, do u write on LJ? *-*
We love JYJ, and we want to love HoMin, but SME forbid us (JYJ fans) to love them by “hypnotizing” them to say hateful thing, such as singing/dancing KHD. Deep in my heart, I still think Homin loves and misses JYJ, but they could not show it since they are under SM’s under the surveillance camera 24×7. I hope someday Homin will be able to freely express their true feeling. Between now and then, I will ONLY support JYJ.
I’ll be honest and say I wasn’t a huge fan of TVXQ5. I didn’t dislike them but I also wasn’t a major fan. I only enjoyed a few songs here and there but it wasn’t enough to be a Cassie. I’ve always disliked SM ever since the HOT/JTL & Shinhwa days. At the time when all the controversies/scandals broke out, I wanted to help all of them but seeing how I was a young teen who was very naive as well as broke, there wasn’t anything I could really do.
I didn’t know about all the JYJ & HoMin issues until JYJ came to the US. What I learned reminded me of what SM did to JTL many years ago. Please google for more info! I fell in love with JYJ’s music after the realization. To many, my reasons seem a bit immature but IDC. I’ll continue giving JYJ my love and support for many more years!
A+
Shinhwa really sealed the deal with SM with me.
At the end of the day I kind of don’t care anymore that they have the ‘name’. TVXQ will and always will be identified as Hero, U-know, Junsu, Changmin and Micky to those original 800k fans. I don’t call Homin TVXQ. Point blank PERIOD. And for the new comers of Homin and JYJ fans do research so you KNOW that TVXQ wasn’t always 2 and 2 didn’t make TVXQ a success; but 5 did. 5 freaking 5!!! 5 dollar FOOT LONG guys made TVXQ. Per-i-od.
It’s like MJ without his dances moves, vocal style and gloves history and personality. Don’t tell me it’s MJ when it’s CLEARLY NOT!
Don’t tell me it’s TVXQ when it’s clearly not.
That’s like me saying Boron is Helium. Elements change by proton count. If it’s not five protons it’s not Boron!
lol I’m being silly but it’s true. The identity of the group changes when the persons who make up the group changes. It’s different things and you can’t SM tell us it’s the same.
I didn’t mean to reply under you. That was for a separate post.
But to reply to you I say, girl it’s not immature.
Just your own unique journey with this group.
@ Shhh I adore the element analogy. *HI5*
@jjeongg
It’s all about CHOICES. For me, it’s also about quality, not quantity.
Have I been a fan for the same number of years? No. Did I start out liking all 5? Yes. Do I still like all 5? Yes. But, and here is where the QUALITY comes in. I also don’t like it when corporate entities try and ‘CRIMINALIZE’ someone for trying to exercise their human rights.
HoMin have the right to be where they want to be. Would I have preferred they joined their ‘brothers’, and carved a new path for the 5 of them. Sure. However, they CHOSE to stay with SME.
I don’t like SME. In my humble opinion they are bloodsuckers. Does this make HoMin bad people for staying with SME? No. It was their CHOICE. I CHOOSE not to support them at the present time because of SME. I don’t dislike them personally. I may dislike some of their behaviour, but that does not make them bad people. I just feel sorry for them.
JYJ have demonstrated in more ways than one, their continued love and affection for the 2 who stayed behind. I have not heard one mean or cruel thing said from any of them about the character or actions of HoMin. They have continually said they would like to sit down with them and talk – without interferrence from SME – to air out their feelings. They apparently have enough faith in the number of years spent together to come to an understanding. I RESPECT that. Again, this is where the QUALITY comes in.
So, for people who are fans of the original 5, regardless of how much time they have invested in them, and for the fans who are new only to JYJ; this site and others that support JYJ are they places WE have, to come together to support OUR CHOICE.
Think about the actions of SME and its various cohorts, SERIOUSLY, think about what they have done. If you can truly say you support what SME is doing to JYJ, then no amount of words will be able to get you to understand how folks can make the CHOICE they have made to STAND-UP for JYJ. WE, who support JYJ do so PROUDLY, no confusion. We want them to win because we BELIEVE in their cause, and their HUMAN RIGHTS.
So, if sites that support JYJ disappoint or disturb you, there is a remedy for that. Simple, just avoid them, just as we CHOOSE to avoid those that send out distasteful vibes about JYJ.
Supporters of JYJ are going to MAKE MIRACLES HAPPEN FOR THEM. So, when you go back to the sites that make you more comfortable, look around and see if you see the same thing there, that you see here, the CHOICE to love JYJ.
A+++++
great worded, kudos!
*Applause*
I think I joined a very intelligent group of people! I’m so proud! ^^
I love it here!!!!!!!
BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!CLAP!!!!!!!!!!CLAP!!!!!!!!CLAP!!!!!!!!!!!!GGENIUS COMMENT.IM AGREE WITH U!!!!!!!!!
i think like you
JYJ Fighting
STANDINGOVATION!!
Excellent, jyj3 fans!!…you guys say all the think I want to say!Thank you!
don’t ever said that i’m not dbsk’s fans in the first place… it’s not like what you think it is… easily?.. come on…. i still love 5 of them but that alone not enough to stand by 5 of them… we are here not blind to see and not dumb to think, we practically have to do this… cz i can’t support homin who diss JYJ… don’t ever tell me that they didn’t cz they did….
I hope I am not being rude…BUT… I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE OF YOU TO LEAVE THIS SITE AND NEVER COME BACK! SORRY BUT THE OTP=5 site IS ONETVXQ.COM!! is really “NICE” over there for fans like you… 🙂 “or maybe some of you are not dbsk’s fans in the first place.” YUP u are rite! I AM A JYJ FAN NOT A DBSK=2 FAN AND I AM DAMN PROUD OF IT!! Now you can be a nice OTP=5 fan and go to the right site for you hun! I think you got LOST!…….Have a NICE DAY! 🙂 (I hope I wasn’t to rude)
I think JYJ don’t even mind about TVXQ2 using the name to move on. They are just sad and that’s all.
but few days ago i read about TVXQ/TOHOSHINKI (in japanese)/TVXQ (in simplified chinese)on someone’s blog that discussed about SME and HM have the FULL right to use the name and surprisingly, they found out that those TVXQ names in any forms (except the traditional chinese) are already registered for trademark in some Korean Trademark websites. and now i’m seriously confused!
just read the article in thejyjfiles about it and the reply comment, since the answer was already written there, sorry, couldn’t explain it further, since I, myself was inexperienced in legal term.
It’s true about the chinese letter, but there’s a comment that already explained it better
This was also explained by Tohosomnia at the beginning of the lawsuit, just google tohosomnia and you’ll find it, (it’s an lj communauty but they also have a forum and a twitter account)and look for the entries entitled :
– [TRANS] 100519 SM Withdraws Application For Trademark Rights Of ‘동방신기 (TVXQ)’
– [TRANS]090811 Struggle For The Name “Secure TVXQ”, SM, Fights for the Trademark a little too late.
And here is a little extract of what is explained in these posts :
” Other than the Chinese character version of the members names and ‘Tong Vfang Xien Qi HERO MAX Xiah U-Know Micky’, no other forms of TVXQ’s names have been passed through the application course. Therefore, if the members leave SM, they will still be able to perform under the name ‘Dong Bang Shin Ki’. This also applies to each of the members’ individual names.”
They have trademarked the simplified Chinese, not the version that’s on everything. They have trademarked TVXQ! and TVfXQ! — those ! are very important. They haven’t trademarked Tohoshinki (latin script) in Korea – I checked – but I don’t know about Japan.
In any case! The point is SME doesn’t have a “right” to as much as they think. The people who that name represents are the ones with the rights and even the trademarks that have been granted could be challenged on those grounds.
Check The JYJ files post. It’s all covered there and in the comments.
@kokoromiya7 Sorry. More comment fail for me.
This was in response to @AyumIXx’s question.
all I can say is …WOW…
I’M GOING TO COMMENT FOR JYJ FANS ONLY =)
my dear Unnies or dongseangs~~ please be nice ^^ we will be expecting more guests from other fans ok i don’t wanna another incident like the that post to happen again~ please use sensible words to reply back ^^ right now just like JYJ what ever we do or comment PPL wanna find our weakness to PUSH US DOWN, so before they can do that..we should prevent it ok =) if we were too over board please apologize cause whatever we do will represent JYJ and i’m sure u guys don’t want any more drama for JYJ~
Thanks for reminding us >.<
but somehow although we already behave, but for some people we're not nice enough.
i know but we still have to be classy ^^ cause like JYJ whatever we do will be looked and criticized on…i don’t want JYJ to get more drama for our doings >< even if we didn't do much…but like other ppl view JYJ, whatever they do little or small they will still be criticized on..so just like JYJ we are too being carefully looked on ready to be talked about by others who are waiting to just push us down so we got to prevent that ^^ just like our seniors in korea~~~spreading the JYJ love ^^ i love u blessing yoochun~~~
^_^b
I am not any Kpop idols group fans but I enjoyed their music and talents . I’ve been watching DBSK video and have full understanding of their brotherly bonds by just watching their manners and behaviors on and ‘off’ screen. I can safely allow young kids to idolized these five boys for their ‘never say die’ through their bad days during their time for the Japanese market days. THEY are only in their early 20s or before. Fans have a part to play for these FANWARS besides SME. YES! Support all five coz circumstances have made them change their heart or not…… just support and no bashing/swearing.It only reflects badly on your idol/urself.
choco thank you for remind us, but sometime homins fans action got my nerves,
maybe I must take yoga class,
haha i suggest yin yoga ;)))~~~~
er people don’t get me wrong i’m a JYJ fan not an OT5 O.O this is a reminder for jyj fans only ><
no worries!
we know we are all sensible people here…
i applaud DNBN for how they explained their decision and position to support JYJ during these hard times.
the things they pointed out are true and valid and i do hope people will now understand this and not just lash out.
all we need now is the court to decide & i’m crossing my fingers that it’s for JYJ’s favor.
Agree. Just remember “Love wins, love always wins” – Tuesdays with Morrie. We can win them (the guests) over with JYJ’s love and JYJ fandom’s love.
i think it’s difficult for fans who support both sides, jyj and homin to accept this
i only hope they can understand why we taking side
I really don’t understand some people knew that they don’t like what they will read/find in here, but they still come and reading it all. and worst, they act like a saint and saying like they know everything. aissh.
we don’t like fighting neither bashing, that’s why we don’t bother ‘the other’ blog, so will you stop bothering us?
DNBN is a huge fansite and they already made their mind.
good. more people open their heart mind and soul to seek the truth.
Even by right or not, in our mind TVXQ name exclusively refer to uknow, jejung, yuchun, junsu, changmin = 5 members and NOT just Uknow & Changmin.
As @carnival2701 said… “TVXQ that Homin are carrying right now is not the TVXQ5 that we love. The TVXQ5 group that we once knew is in a hiatus. In fact, TVXQ2 and JYJ are two different groups. I am a TVXQ5′s fan but i am not a fan of TVXQ2”
I hope i-fansites while posting articles or news about TVXQ members preferable use HOMIN of TVXQ and JYJ of TVXQ or just HOMIN and JYJ. If they keep using TVXQ and JYJ, the TVXQ site banner that exclusively stand for 5 members now has different meaning or to be honest TVXQ now stand for HOMIN only. If that so, just declare the sites as TVXQ for HOMIN only so people don’t get confused anymore. This just my personal opinion.
wowh…. DNBN speechless
great…. well done… wowh
JYJ hwaiting… TVXQ = 5 If not 5 isn’t TVXQ
TVXQ = HM + JYJ
Can OT5 fans or Homin fans just stay away from this site? If you have so much free time, do something else. There’s no fun for you all here ok?! Whatever decision you have made is your choice, and that’s the same for us. You are disappointed, oh well don’t you think we aren’t when things are so clear but you guys choose to turn the blind eyes on. So should we be disappointed in your decision? We may be but we won’t coz we don’t really care who you love more or less, what we care is JYJ, Jaejoong, Yoochun, Junsu. They’re worth our care than other unnecessary like Homin sites. I don’t even visit those sites like you guys have so much time visiting JYJ sites. Please, just get on with your liking, don’t assume on us JYJ fans.
And for antis, PLEASE GET A LIFE, you should focus more on your lives, study, and Homin and STOP THE RUMORS AND BASHING.
i know right? i swear to God that i dont even visit homin site =.= even homin soompi thread, man i dont even care, really, they love or hate jyj, i dont really care, man, why they have to bother go here? homin fans, please, this is not your place, go away, no one welcome you here
@haha… me to!!!!
Yes, it’s a waste of time to visit those sites, and I wonder what they do to have much free time.
People should really need to see REALITY.
@ “Support 5 ” fan: I’m sorry to say this:
I ‘m trying to block ANY news about TVXQ act 2 and CAss act 2 and ” I ‘ll always support 5 ” fan who goes bashing JYJ fan.
Please come back to your dream house, this is JYJ fan’s house, thank you.
aaaaaaaaaaaa i dont like SM .. TVXQ is 5 member , i like u DNBN!!!!! FIGHTING
i love u !!!!! FIGHTING TVXQ .. jaejoong , junsu , yoochun, changmin , yunho
Hi can i just say something? I’m an OT5 fan. and DNBN is a OT5 fanclub but for them to say this.. idk.
Yunho mentioned why he want to continue on with ‘tvxq’
its because he doesnt want people to forget the name ‘tvxq’.
he once asked a boy during the hiatus period : what is your favourite group?
and the boy replied: snsd and suju
he asked : What about tvxq?
and the boy answered? “Who are they?”
And ive just watched knee drop guru yesterday, i know i’m really slow but thats because i avoid anything sensitive to the lawsuit..but when yunho mentioned how fans insulted his family, that expression on his face, idk.. i felt horrible.
This i guess is what only OT5 fans feel so jyj3 fans can ignore this post.
but when we were getting all hyped up about jaechunsu’s new album, japan concert, their achievements proving that they can be without sme,
i never asked myself : what is HoMin doing currently? how are they feeling?
I FEEL LIKE A HORRIBLE CASS.