What JYJ left is the company
And what Yunho-Changmin are protecting is the company.
If all it took to protect TVXQ was using the name,
then the three members could have protected the team by doing so.
But the thing is, you can’t say you’re protecting TVXQ just because you’re using the name.
Who are TVXQ? The five members.
But who protected the members (TVXQ)?
It wasn’t protecting the team to stay with SM,
and it wasn’t deserting the team to leave SM.
The five of them gave each other up
and made decisions based on their individual beliefs.
The moment they gave up on each other
was the moment that all of them lost the power to protect TVXQ
Yunho and Changmin said that TVXQ can only exist under SM.
That’s not true. Only when the five members get together will they be TVXQ.
Even if they gave up being singers and lived on a farm together for the rest of their lives,
they would still be TVXQ in the eyes of others.
by.소민. of Yuaerubi
Translated by: @jeeelim5
Shared by: JYJ3
JYJ3 
100% agree..
Couldn`t have said it any better than this! My feelings exactly!
my exact same thoughts!
Preach it~! 100% agree!
Whoever said this, i love u!!
Cant correct anything else!!!A+++++
but they are TVXQ or JYJ doest matter with me because i love who they are!!!!
“The moment they gave up on each other
was the moment that all of them lost the power to protect TVXQ”
bitter…. but that’s so true
At that moment, there was nothing left to protect.
exactly. sad, but oh-so-true. :,(
“Even if they gave up being singers and lived on a farm together for the rest of their lives,
they would still be TVXQ in the eyes of others.”
well said
true… but… *sigh*
“The moment they gave up on each other
was the moment that all of them lost the power to protect TVXQ”
this is so true..
“The five of them gave each other up
and made decisions based on their individual beliefs.”
there’s two side to every story..and we need to read both side to know the truth..
Truer words have never be spoken(written).
*been* not “be” typo
im crying..its sooo true!!!hope homin and our boy read this….may peace come on their mind.hope more,homin read tis!do homin understad this beautiful fact ?its fans who want to make tvxq member realise about tvxq itself.do they understand what fans meaning to them?and do they realise how precious them for fans????when fans felt been ignored by their beloved idols?THEY SHOWED BY THIS STATEMENT!!!FANS AND THEIR BELOVED FANS,THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL RELATIONSHIPS I EVER KNOW!!IDK WHY I IGNORED TVXQ 7YEARS AGO?WHILE NOW IM JUST 2 MONTH KNEW THEM?ITS LIKE INEW THEM LONG AGO?NOW I KNOW WHATS CASSIE FELT-ITS REALLY HURT!MORE THEN LIKE U LOST YOUR BELOVED BF-ITS SEEMS LIKE U LOST YOUR SOULMATE-OR?YOUR OWN SOUL PART?IDK HOW TO DESCRIBED IT!ITS SO HARD!ITS SO DIFFICULT!CASSIE?NOW I KNOW YOUR FEELING BOUT LOSING TVXQ!THIS STATEMENT EXPRESS FANS CRIED HEART>four thumbs up!!!!
sorry,some word miswritten,hope u know what i mean…thanks.its hard on phone.
“What JYJ left is the company
And what Yunho-Changmin are protecting is the company.
If all it took to protect TVXQ was using the name,
then the three members could have protected the team by doing so.
But the thing is, you can’t say you’re protecting TVXQ just because you’re using the name.
Who are TVXQ? The five members.”
First and formost, all 5 are HUMAN BEINGS, they are not a group name. Each one of the 5 are individuals, and as such, must move to his own moral compass. The reverence they pay to what has been a huge part of their lives up until now, TVXQ, will show up in the actions they exhibit.
Once there is time and distance from the present situation, then the 5 of them can decide how they want to proceed. TVXQ was the vehicle by which they travelled to this point. I prefer for them to be true to themselves, not a group name.
PEACE
TVXQ was the vehicle by which they travelled to this point.
I like that! That is an excellent way of putting it.
omg i think i just fell in love with you with what you just said (or typed. err.) but really, so much love. you just put words to what i think and feel about the situation. :,)
🙂
I only hope those stubborn ot5 & HM fans can leave JYJ fans alone.
Many came to support JYJ without knowing TVXQ5 and many choose to support JYJ only.
It’s only fair that if JYJ fans did not go to HM sites or ot5 sites and insist they support JYJ, then they should be respectful and do the same.
I’m sick of all the preachings and bad rumors.
I only want to support JYJ.
The stubborness goes both ways. The reasons why Cassies will AKTF is because TVXQ has for many years, always been 5. So it’s quite understandable to have them support both JYJ & HoMin. Even though you came after and only support JYJ, please keep an open mind to the others. Try to understand where they’re coming from and how they feel. I, myself, welcome anyone who’s willing to support the boys, regardless of who else they support.
Eh.. but i was a OT5 fan..
It’s the recent happenings that changed my stand.
I, of course, welcome people who wants to support JYJ and am not interferring with who else they support.
Just the fact that some (not all) ot5 fans think we should support others too that irritates me no end.
@Shadow
I don’t get the sense the author is trying to preach. As was mentioned in the earlier reply…they (TVXQ5 fans) have much love invested in all 5. Even JaeJoong, YooChun, and JunSu tell you they are still TVXQ. This is a fact, it is not going to disappear.
The entire fandoms – and I say fandom(s)plural – are dealing with an emotional situation. When emotions are involved it’s hard to stay detached on the sidelines. I know I do, because I’m pretty much emotion based. It’s a constant battle for me to stay reasoned sometimes. 🙂
JYJ right now are the embodiment of a major struggle.
We as JYJ fans, I feel, can afford to be more understanding even if TVXQ5 fans do want to express their sentiments about the name, and what it means to them. I started out liking all 5, still do; just don’t like some of the behaviour of HoMin sometimes.
But sometimes a bit of understanding is called for. We JYJ fans know we’re going to stay strong no matter what. That’s because our focus is on providing JYJ the pathway to a better future.
PEACE
No saying in direct relation to this article in particular.
Just comment as a whole.
As I’ve mentioned before, it’s fine if they want to support who else and JYJ.
But to think just because they (some of them) support all 5 place them on a higher stand as a fan makes no sense, esp to those fans who know JYJ BEFORE tvxq.
You support who you want to support but don’t impose your thinking onto others.
That’s what i mean.
“You support who you want to support but don’t impose your thinking onto others.”
Ok, Shadow I get what you are saying, I truly do. But ask yourself, ‘can anyone ACTUALLY MAKE you do, or believe something you don’t want to’? What power do they really have to accomplish this? If you can answer that they DO NOT possess this kind of power, then this should be a non-issue. That’s all I’m suggesting.
@butterfliesAreFree
Truely love what you’ve expressed. Especially,stating how fans shld stay strong for JYJ coz our focus is on providing JYJ the pathway to a better FUTURE . Well said.
TVXQ = 5…. no doubt
If Shinhwa could do it, why not TVXQ??
Anyway, anyone of you guys know this “anti” JYJ blog XXX The author indirectly (or directly) bashes JYJ and even their parents in the latest post about the 6.25 incident..I really feel that this blog is not helping the tvxq fandom in anyway. If it wanted to really wanted to help, it should dig out ways on how to help TVXQ to be 5 again not divide the fandom by questioning the lawsuit..at least jyj3 doesn’t bash Homin but that blog simply…bashes JYJ on a regular basis..
JYJ Hwaiting!
ADMIN NOTE: PLEASE DON’T PROMOTE JYJ’S ANTIBLOGS HERE
Its homin biased. Or to be exact SM biased and anti jyj. Dont be fooled by the name tvxq they’re using.
You’re exactly right! It’s not HoMin bias, it’s SM bias. What they’re doing now is trying to split up the fandom so that it becomes weak. Making it seem like they’re protecting HoMin but in reality, they’re only protecting themselves. A tactic used before!
Yes, I think we need to start being clearer on the difference between SME supporters and HoMin supporters.
eh sorry i did not know heh
For me it’s like a mantra….SME, SME, SME. This helps me stay on target (bullseye, that is).
That blog is what we’re assuming as the International counterpart of Forever…
The blogger is hording Int’l fans to look at SME as a good company by distorting info and unfortunately Int’l fans are believing this Person.
I haven’t gone back there again coz it’s just plain hopeless to make reasons with the “HoMin Fans” or that blogger there…
“What’s TVXQ? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O! Be some other name:
What’s in a name? That with we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So TVXQ would, were he not TVXQ call’d,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title.”
(My apologies, Master Shakespeare.) 😉
Although Romeo and Juliet is one of my least favorite Shakespearian works, I salute your analogy. 🙂 Very apropos.
I prefer “Macbeth” for this whole mess, actually.
“Away, and mock the time with fairest show:
False face must hide what the false heart doth know.”
But it can get more than a little nasty.
@Eliza
ROFLAMO!!! Ah yes, Macbeth. Master Shakespeare was definitely a writer before his time.
thumbs up for this, Eliza! 😀
and yeap, I think Macbeth would echo this situation perfectly.
“And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths.”
“There’s no art to find the mind’s construction in the face.”
It’s a sad reality but we all know it’s true. When they all gave up on each other, they gave up protecting TVXQ.
have they gave up on each other? i mean JYJ haven’t gave up with homin right? cz choose different path doesn’t mean you gave up with the one you love right? so what about homin?
i still want to believe they haven’t give up on each other….
Em em em EM!
“The moment they gave up on each other
was the moment that all of them lost the power to protect TVXQ”
THIS gave me chills.
And my eyes are watery.
So sad, but absolutely T-R-U-E.
I don’t want to disparage the feelings of those who feel that –
“The moment they gave up on each other
was the moment that all of them lost the power to protect TVXQ”
But is everyone forgetting who really made TVXQ great besides the members themselves? The fans. Allowing SME to define the narrative by intimating ‘they gave up on each other’, and make no mistake, their continued attempt to paint JYJ as traitors, this is what they want to happen.
The fans are the ones who are going to have to stand strong. Accept that the situation is not going to turn around overnight. Manipulation is a very strong tactic. Fans are going to have to not let SME get away with it.
I think you have it. It’s not the boys who can protect TVXQ, it’s the fans. I think that’s what AKTF means; it’s not a promise that they will reunite, it’s the call to have faith in what they were and what they could be again.
A++++++++++++++++++ cz i don’t 100% agree with this article…. if to protect tvxq means jyj have to endure all of the BS sm does to them then i don’t want them to protect tvxq at all… their happiness come first for me!
you got good point!
Yes!! Thank you for putting it this way. I read this and thought it was lovely, but something about “they gave up on each other” was really bothering me. You’ve made an excellent point.
You’re right.
@Eliza
“it’s not a promise that they will reunite, it’s the call to have faith in what they were and what they could be again.”
BINGO!!
True that. The boys stated time and time again that fans’ support is the main thing that keep them going. Let’s be honest. Without strong support, JYJ wouldn’t be able to be where they are now, and that goes for HoMin too. SME is the master puppeteers, but the audience are the ones who decide whether they’ll watch the show or not.
Now that I’ve the line again I realize there is still hope, albeit it being a tiny weeny bit. The three might have moved on and started anew as JYJ, but they also never ruled out the chance of being reunited. And that chance of ever having to see them again all five on stage is what fans of TVXQ!5 are holding on to – and we couldn’t fault them for that. Keeping faith has different meaning to every one of us. For some, it means believing in the boys and the friendship they had had for the past 10 years. For others, it’s believing that they could get better and achieve higher than they could as TVXQ.
@pabogateunfish
“Without strong support, JYJ wouldn’t be able to be where they are now, and that goes for HoMin too.”
And the reason I believe that ‘strong support’ is there, they never took their fans for granted. As I’ve mentioned before. I wasn’t there from the being, but I have had the opportunity to check out, after the fact, how they interacted with their fans. There was/is so much mutual affection/or love if you will. You can’t fake that.
This is what SME doesn’t get. The harder they try to separate JYJ from their fans, the harder the fans will dig in. The persons on the stage made the connection with the fans, not the name TVXQ. Although TVXQ symbolizes the 5, this name alone is not enough to be the true meaning of TVXQ. The true meaning of TVXQ is: JaeJoong, YooChun, JunSu, and HoMin.
Gosh I hate typos…from the beginning.
100% de acuerdo disculpen por escribir en español JYJ Hwaiting!
This is so sad but true. Truth always hurts I think. Hope Homin understand this. They are not protecting the name of TVXQ but the company SM.
omg sooooooooooooo true ❤ can't agree more! tvxq are tvxq only when there are 5 members! because SM doesn't own the tvxq name the five members do!
I believe what homin meant was to continue to let people know about this name, not for existing fans only, but for younger generation. If 2 of them stayed, at least they will still be able to continue singing dbsk’s songs and sm
Wont remove dbsk’s mvs on youtube since there’s still 2 of their artiste there. Also if jyj won, sm might offer them a fair contract and ask them to come back for the sake of the other 2. Since 2 tvxq members are still in sm, sm dare not bash and ask for jyj’s boycott so openly or people might bash homin and it will spoil homin’s image(though it’s not homin’s fault, some fans like to put sm’s fault on homin. As if homin can tell sm to stop the boycott) i support all 5 forever. I dont think that if homin left together, it can make the situation any better, it will only means boycotting all 5 openly
on the contrary if that was the case then some things that have been said towards JYJ from not only yunho+changmin but some of the sm artists could have been prevented? since homin is staying back to protect TVXQ they could have prevented the outbursts of some of the sm artists towards JYJ because they are part of TVXQ.
“sm dare not bash and ask for jyj’s boycott so openly or people might bash homin and it will spoil homin’s image” – i think their actions are louder than any words and also to point out they may not have “openly” come out saying to boycott JYJ but they did imply it in soo many ways.
I think lee soo man talks bad about jyj to sm artistes and i dont think boa, super junior or sim jae won asked yunho for permission before tweeting about Junsu’s tweet, since they didnt really direct and name who the tweet is for. I hate them for it though, they shouldnt interfere with dbsk’s business, theyre only making thinhs worse
SME is not showing restraint to protect HoMin’s image. (I don’t think SME is protecting HoMin’s image at all! But that’s a different rant.) To openly boycott JYJ would be against the law. The judge reminded SME in the court ruling re: the provisional injunction that they can’t interfere in JYJ’s activities in any way. If all five had left they would be in exactly the same situation, because SME would still have to work in the background.
100% agree with Valerie.
I think HoMin used the name of TVXQ just because they want to young generation knows that TVXQ still exist even if there’s only 2 members. They want to TVXQ never be forgotten.
Maybe for now, the only thing that can they do is it.
Don’t you know, when yunho asked to a child, what her/his idol, the child said that she/he loves SNSD. then he asked again, did she/he know TVXQ, the child said no.
I still believe that each members keep protecting TVXQ with their own way. ^^