JYJ fans have yet another issue on their hands, as it was recently discovered that Japan’s Oriconchart excluded JYJ’s album from its rankings.
Representatives of Oricon Chart reported, “JYJ’s ‘DVD Memories in 2010‘ and their album, ‘Thanksgiving Live in Dome Live CD‘, will both be excluded from the chart rankings.”
According to Oricon, the decision was made in deference to Avex Entertainment’s condition of distribution. The Japanese agency had claimed their contracts with JYJ to be invalid as of September 2010. Consequently, this halt on their Japanese activities brought up discussions of whether or not JYJ’s albums would be still distributed. Avex agreed to release the albums under the condition that the trio are prohibited from promoting and advertising their releases for monetary gain.
The albums were eventually released on March 2nd to “revitalize the market“, but Oricon explained that they would be excluded from the rankings chart since it is also a form of advertisement.
After hearing about the notice, fans have been expressing their outrage over the situation by leaving comments like, “It’s ridiculous that JYJ is being excluded from Oricon just because that in itself is advertising and promoting the album,” “Oricon is killing the reliability of their chart,” and “Is JYJ nothing more than a tool to make money for Avex?”
Source + Photos: Star News via Daum, Osen
Credit: Allkpop
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(NEWS) JYJ’s representatives speak out against “unfair treatment” from Avex & Oricon
On the morning of March 9th, JYJ’s representatives released an official statement regarding JYJ’s DVD and album being excluded from Japan’s Oricon Charts.
Through Star News, they revealed, “It’s ridiculous for Avex to block JYJ from promoting in Japan, and yet still claim rights over the sales and profits of JYJ’s albums.”
They continued, “It’s extremely upsetting that such situations continue to harm not only Korean fans, but Japanese fans as well, who are doing nothing but patiently waiting for JYJ to return. The artists were not consulted at all by Avex over the albums’ release. We hope that this matter is rectified immediately.”
“It is unfair treatment,” they concluded.
JYJ3 
“The Japanese agency had claimed their contracts with JYJ to be invalid as of September 2010.”
Does this mean they are no longer linked with each other? JYJ can sign up with another Japanese agency now?
Posting to Allah that its true.
PLEASE BE TRUE, PLEASE!!!!!!
Posting = PRAYING!!!!!
I think the contracts are still valid and subsisting, it’s just that Avex decided to put JYJ on hiatus/suspend their activities last September.
Sign up with another agency… naaaaawwww…
Oh, I’m so tired of these people making money from them but never show any gratuities towards the boys…
Well, now we can see who is the ungrateful person? who is the traitor???
the contract is suspended not terminated hence Avex can still release JYJ products.
Ah I see. I wonder when it’ll end. Soon, hopefully.
I read somewhere that it would likely end on April but i’m not sure
Even if they are not charted, everybody knows that JYJ’s DVD and album are both number1…
Guys please vote (you can vote every 10 minutes), don’t let those 2 SM artists overtake us!
http://listas.rpp.com.pe/musica/3496-dur4ngotop-kpop-mexico-mar-sem-2
LOL. Cute!!
Good or bad, the compounded effects of these news items will surely increase the attention given to JYJ’s plight. More and more of these are coming out about these unfair treatments and even those outside the fandom can easily see what’s been going on. So in a way, something good can be had from these.
@Shhh: LOL i agree!
“Through Star News, they revealed…”
HOLD UP. Stop the presses…is this official statement? Why through star news would a rep say something? How about directly from C-jes? If I’m correct isn’t C-jes and their PR, Prain (I forget the spelling excuse me) represents them?
I’mma take this as speculation rather than true statement.
mte
they’ld be specific to say prain released a statement or cjes representative. all previous articles were specific to indicate who said what not somebody through star news.
good catch~!
hmmmm…
my bad for not reading the headline, I thought it was the fans who were talking about it. I’m used to see if either Prain PR and C-jes makes a statement, I usually see their names attached.
hhhhhmmm… what’s going on?
wow…finally CjeS say something about this.
so Avex didn’t consulting anything with the trio about this dvd? sound familiar. so roughly said JYJ is only a tool to make money right? jeeezzz…they are people not things. pleaseeee…
now I doubt that JYJ will received the real amount of the sales as they deserved. :p
On allkpop people are saying JYJ are nothing but a bunch of whiners for speaking out about the injustice of what Avex and Oricon are doing and it’s making me VERY angry. I don’t have an allkpop account or I would be giving them a piece of my mind. I guess it’s probably good I don’t have an account because I don’t think I would be able to remain civil about this.
If you ever decide to waste your time, open an account and comment…ask them how would they feel if this was happening to them. Not someone else, but themselves. Tunes people hum, have a different tone when it come from them, and not someone else. 🙂
lol I don’t have an account because I think it’s exactly that a big waste of time. I think there are too many commenting on allkpop that just like to start controversies. Actually I think allkpop just likes to start controversies. I usually just ignore it but this time it was really aggravating me. I apparently need to do some yoga or something.
true~
that’s why when i go there once in a blue moon, i just SIGH~ and get the hell outa there… such a bunch of kids, really…
well before i found this JYJ3 blog allkpop was my only source, yeah poor me. Now no more allkpop. JYJ3 is my home now. When i feel so down just read other fellow fans comments and be motivated again. i so love this fandom and so proud to be one of them.
Tuesday,
One of the really big advantages for the fans who share this site…we all have this in common…affection and support of JYJ only. So, glad to know we have a convert who appreciates all the hard work our admins do, and likes the solidarity of our ‘humble little group’. 🙂
There’s an awful lot of fun people on this site!
@tuesday
welcome to our Family & feel at home~! ^___^
it’s easy for them to say that. their idol doesn’t get this kind of treatment.
i’ll qoute lines from my fav book:
Take a bite from my plate, chew, then talk.
…If and only if you do not throw up first.
lol You need to post this on allkpop!
I did see a lot of comments taking JYJ’s side too.
Yes thankfully now plenty supporting JYJ are on there.
AKP people are making me laugh.
talk talk talk, when actually they didn’t know anything.
and I don’t have AKP account too, but sometime when I make a comment there, I’m using my Yahoo account.
oh well, I used to intend to create an account on allkpop to defend our boys too, but when I saw some 2VXQ’s fans on there keep trying to reply to others’ opinions, the more they talk, the more I find it ridiculous. So yeah, it’s totally not worth our time. Let them blabber, if all of us ignore them, in the end, they’re only talking to themselves. Only crazy people do that, you know. *shrug*
if you have a twitter/fb or some accounts tha tare supoorted by allkpop, you can comment 😉
I am going to pretend I never saw this. lol
@NoMoreSilentLurker
Be strong…go do your yoga. 🙂
I have an allkpop account and I am constantly posting in support of JYJ. I try to have as many facts backing up my statements. I feel better having defended JYJ, because I don’t want to go back to last year where so many of us were silent and it did more damage than good. But the hotel girls comments can be hard to take sometimes.
” The albums were eventually released on March 2nd to “revitalize the market“, but Oricon explained that they would be excluded from the rankings chart since it is also a form of advertisement.”
this makes no sense to me. Released to revitalize market but can’t list it on oricon because its a form of promotion.Common sense apparently isn’t so common
COMMON SENSE IS SO RARE IT SHOULD BE A SUPER POWER. LOL
LOL!
greed does knows boundary and certainly doesn’t know what common sense is.
*doesn’t*
The albums were eventually released on March 2nd to “revitalize the market“, but Oricon explained that they would be excluded from the rankings chart since it is also a form of advertisement.
I think the better word for that revitalize the market is… to revitalize their pockets/profits… they need JYJ’s money earner name to get the profits. If AVEX have published this without JYJ’s knowledge, will JYJ get a royalty out of it?
and through AVEX report they have said that the contract of JYJ with them is invalid since sept 2010. Now I’m more confused.
Still contemplating if I should buy it or not.
“If AVEX have published this without JYJ’s knowledge, will JYJ get a royalty out of it?”
Yes, they should get some royalties from it. It doesn’t matter if they knew of the release beforehand.
There’s a couple things in this news I wonder about… like the representative’s statement… It doesn’t mention Prain or CJeS, so which representative? And Avex stopped promoting JYJ in September 2010, but that’s not the same the contract being invalid. (An invalid contract would be something decided legally.) There’s never been a statement one way or the other if JYJ is still under contract with Avex, so it’s hard to tell.
why AVEX wanna be part of the negativity that is SME will forever be a mystery to me. I always respect AVEX but with their act against JYJ and seeming to ride the same train as SME really make me feel disgusted. Just why,AVEX? Why you want to stain your name and put it in the same level as SME?
Well, BE, Do you see it?
Those that didn’t get it should see it pretty clearly now that Avex is not JYJ’s friend.
Hell right!!
KARMA WILL GET YOU AVEX
OHHHH IT WILL GET YOU!!!!!
i hope the public n Japanese entertainment industry
can see what avex is doing n voice out their disagreement.
this will definintely not go well with their image n in return
will not set well with their shareholders n directors.
already their profits are heading to the ground.
all i can say is someone’s head’s gonna roll n
i think its gonna begin with ‘M’….
Karma baby, Karma…remember that!!!
We have discuss this kind of issue b4, if I were JYJ, I would sue Avex for making money off my talent, when Im not making any money myself, this is just sad… Furthermore in a commentary I made about this particular issue I called Avex the underdog of SM, what I’d like to know is what their fellow artists think about this, would it mean that this kind of thing would happen if any of them decide to do what JYJ did? A chart should reflect the truth about the feeling of the public, this system of manipulation is just sickening
Ah, but who said they weren’t making any money? That might be the one bright spot in this, they will likely be getting a paycheque.
@Eliza
I definitely think they are getting a payday. No one can convince me that the law firm that handles their work, would let them agree to anything remotely like what they had with SME.
Just the fact alone, they sell more units in Japan than in Korea. Even if the split is something like 70/30, that is a helluva lot more than 0%.
Play me once, shame on me; play me twice shame on you.
Some on explain to me what Avex has to gain from pulling this crap. I am totally not getting it. SM I can understand (though I don’t agree) but what did JYJ do to Avex? Avex and Oricon just made themselves look like unethical idiots for what purpose?
It’s almost like SM is blackmailing Avex but are SM artists really worth that much?
Oops. “Someone” not “some on”
Nothing really, except continuing to stay on good terms with SM.
If it’s not that reason then I don’t even know.
that’s what im been thinking as well… i mean AVEX is like mega company in Japan. I actually something much more between JYJ and AVEX. SME might be a little bit to make it happen but i doubt it since well I get that SME is huge in Korea but to have that influence in Japan i dx really think so. I dunno. JYJ and AVEX i think must be very much complex than what think it might be. I mean the silent over what happen with Japan actually scared the shit out of me more than what happen in Korea. The silent irked me so much coz i dx really know what’s really happening. Its just too…simple and superficial. People seems to linked it with SME but i dunno, i might be paranoid.
How can you read my mind like that 😉
Japan worries me more than korea too
“The..” sales were not up to my expectation so i worry about their future.
We’ve got a long way to go yet. *listens to long way*
hello twin brain ^^ Im a worrywart and usually overly curious. currently in JYJ fandom, JYJ and Japan is on the top list of my curiosity. It makes me anxious. BE polite and calm nature doesnt help making this worries goes away.
I looked up a little on Avex. I’m getting the feeling that they are short on new music talent and they want to make up for it with Korean idols. TT
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2010/09/06/korean-boy-bands-anime-saving-japans-music-biz/
if my deduction is right, after reading the blog http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2010/09/06/korean-boy-bands-anime-saving-japans-music-biz/
, since AVEX gets its large revenue from those songs & popularity, it might have made a grave mistake in choosing SM over JYJ. and right now the marketable group is JYJ irregardless they be promoted or not. Just come to think of it, no need for an advertisement/promotional fee for the group. The album will sell by itself. That’s an additional profit for the company, without them doing extra work aside from producing the album.
To compensate to what they have released before – by suspending JYJ. AVEX is playing with words and using fans to gain their purpose, “revitalize the market“, and that by doing so, they are trying to purify the purpose of releasing the album in the names of the fans but it is well understood by any person, that it may have been legal – for they hold the rights of those album – but unethical for using JYJ’s album whom they have suspended and have not promoted since last year. And using fans who have been waiting for JYJ, AVEX thereby commoflaging their real purpose in releasing the album – to gain bigger profit out of it.
ORICON chart to my understanding this is a legit chart to know how good and popular an album, group, songs is. But for the fact that they can exclube certain group/album it’s credibility how accurate it is, is now in question. The big question is who’s behind the ORICONCHART, to manipulate who are to be included and who are to be excluded. And in our dialect we would say “lutong macau”, an advanced decision who’s gonna be on top even though the tally hasn’t begun yet – that will show how corrupt ORICONchart is – to manipulate who will be the number 1 in the chart.
Well my fellow fans, I always say look at the brighter side. There’s a good copy album for JYJ from their last concert. We should be happy for that. chart or no chart, I don’t care anymore. Should I spend money for that album, well I guess with this controversy I’ll wait until it settles down and when I know for sure that JYJ is getting a part of the profit, until then I’ll save my money for their future albums, whom they have the rights and royalty to it.
^^ A+
we know this but what we dont know is what is next?
Japanese market is 10 times bigger then the korean market so who will take the boys in next? Warner?Sony?JE? or do they go independent/small company?
geez~ I hope some of you will NOT start w/ Oricon Chart. Blame it on Avex. If the distributor of the album/DVD decided NOT to put it on Oricon chart, Oricon can only comply w/ such wish. Infact not all stores count on Oricon despite all the biggest music stores in Japan are registered in their list.
This is really getting ridiculous. Dont vent your anger in Oricon chart just bcoz they didnt chart JYJ. Infact they could have just shut up but they gave out the news on their official website. Oricon doesnt just count CD/DVD’s. They pretty much count everything like books, video games, manga, etcs…
masi, thank you for your insight. ^^
it’s a nice thing to find a kababayan here!
I think Oricon was basically forced to announce this because fans kept phoning people at Oricon and Avex because JYJ’s DVD was topping HMV and Amazon but was not mentioned in Oricon. The problem is their announcement makes no logical sense. People commenting on this in Japan are saying “I read this over and over but I still can’t figure out what they mean”. It’s just plain weird.
^^So why exactly some JYJ fans are pinning for it or accusing Oricon that they’ve been bought, losing their credibility or whatever? Avex is the distributor of the album/DVD and they decided and asked Oricon to not put it on their chart. What should be oricon’s reason to NOT agree w/ such request? They’re not some movement to fight injustice, they just count sales/figures of artists releasing their stuffs. Im not saying oricon is innocent or something but the accusation is just so IDK~ its like questioning every single Jap artist on their chart.
because Oricon’s official announcement reads like they are making excuses for Avex. Prior to this people believed that Oricon just counted sales numbers. The announcement sounds like Avex said “We can’t release JYJ’s DVD if they are included in the rankings, so please exclude them.” An impartial ranking company would probably say “That’s your problem; we just report the data.” The fact that they complied implies that they don’t just impartially report sales figures and that they are basically a PR tool which can be manipulated by the companies.
They’re not making excuses for Avex, rather they’re maming excuses for themselves. Its as simple as that.
They’re both a PR tool and the chart who collect/report sales figures in Japan.
“We can’t release JYJ’s DVD if they are included in the rankings, so please exclude them.”
What’s this got to do w/ Oricon chart anyway? They dont get anything from the sales of any artist.Avex released the album and they asked Oricon to exclude it.IA, its an impartial decision that may lead to question their integrity but you see JYJ has a different case/issue w/ Avex going on w/ them atm. This is Oricon’s excuse w/ their compliant attitude towards Avex. I dont think Oricon is clean, they’re obviously working w/ the whole Japanese ent. industry and they’ve been doing it for yrs and yrs. Problem is fans keep pointing fingers basically to everyone involve.Lets see once JYJ is out of contract and has a comeback in Japan. Im sure they’ll enter the Oricon chart bcoz for sure Avex will have no excuse to Oricon why they must not put JYJ on the chart.
@Yaone
a chart that collects data shouldn’t be biased. Not all stores maybe listed but almost all major stores do. If you’re gonna do a statistics you don’t ask everyone but you do ask the majority and sum it up by ratio and proportion and make a graph/chart out of it. That’s the chart that we normally see when they gather data when it comes to best sellers in albums, books & etc. To exclude an item in its category, because it has some issues, is a form of manipulation of the chart. If you say that it’s been like that for years, then it just shows that the chart is not as accurate as we thought when ORICON is doing the ranking of the said category. And if companies can manipulate it, to decide which album/song be listed, then ORICON is no independent chart but a puppet of the companies.
If you yourself says “I dont think Oricon is clean, they’re obviously working w/ the whole Japanese ent. industry and they’ve been doing it for yrs and yrs” so why bother defending it.
If we fans gonna talk bad about it, well its true, you yourself said it, it’s not clean. Anything that is not clean doesn’t have the right to do the chart, where many people look at it as reference. ORICON gives wrong information to the public. In short it misleads the public of the correct ranking of the sales.
“What’s this got to do w/ Oricon chart anyway? They dont get anything from the sales of any artist.Avex released the album and they asked Oricon to exclude it.”
simple, ORICON shouldn’t then do the chart ranking if ORICON could be dictated by the companies who should and shouldn’t be in the chart. that’s why a lot of fans here says ORICON lost its credibility, coz before it is a source of unbiased reference of ranking of sales. but now I don’t know.
^^ So who do you suggest should count the sales figures of Japan artist in Japan.They’ve been doing this since forever.Even Billboard Japan isn’t accurate.Do u honestly think there’s an innocent major management working on in an entertainment industry? I’m not defending Oricon itself,but I believe w/ those artists who made it to their chart. Besides at this point ,why don’t u ask yourself.Do u think having a go at Oricon chart just bcoz they exclude JYJ in their list will do any good to JYJ itself? Millions of fans don’t care,they’re the consumers who buy Arashi,B’z,SMAP, AKB48’s albums.You wouldn’t like seeing these fans criticising JYJ,they already have too much on their plate atm. Just get over that Avex contract and it’ll be a much smoother way w/ them in Japan.
“Avex agreed to release the albums under the condition that the trio are prohibited from promoting and advertising their releases for monetary gain.”
Ah, WTF AVEX? Whom did you agree with? Who begged you to release the DVD so that you could set such condition? You didn’t even consult with JYJ and just did it for your own gains. So far I’ve seen 2 big companies talk like total idiots, tsk tsk!
At least JYJ would still get something from the sale of the DVD and album.
I can’t wait until their contracts are finally expire.
I hope AVEX will issue the checks for JYJ 🙂
Avex gave the public a non-reason for suspending JYJ’s activities in Japan; now, they not only won’t chart JYJ’s CDs or DVDs, so that JYJ would be properly compensated for their hard work, but want to continue getting profits. This is morally if not legally wrong!
It’s ridiculous…Avex and SM and whatever sh*t, they never get enough? Don’t tell me because they already planned for producting a long time ago so now they must release. Gosh!
Such a nauseous company!
Keep ur stock down!!!!!!!!!!! (like ur best friend- SME)
my bad, producing, not producting
Avex agreed to release the albums under the condition that the trio are prohibited from promoting and advertising their releases for monetary gain.
Can somebody explain what does this mean to me? i know my english is very lacking. Does this mean Avex release this for free? are they not getting any profit from this? are they doing charity work here? or does this mean JYJ doesnt gain any money for this? “shake my head” i am so confused! Or can i conclude that Avex is a very greedy monster who gain so much by bleeding other people?
No it just means that they won’t make any extra money from advertisements
It’s just never ending with those big bad corporations.
Trying ways and means to make money from others yet can somehow put it as if they HAVE the right to do so.
How SHAMELESS!!!!
You people are already dirty, ugly, despicable, shallow, smallminded, shortsighted, etc, why can’t you just do a good deed for once, like leave JYJ alone?
Those old ugly fellows in Avex and SM, beware.
Coz what goes around comes around.
“Avex agreed to release the albums under the condition that the trio are prohibited from promoting and advertising their releases for monetary gain.”
To my ears, it sounds like you, AVEX, are doing us, fans, a huge favor by releasing these albums. Ya know what? We don’t need it.
Does any1 know when JYJ’s contract with Avex is over? I heard April?
It should be around April.
That’s when their activities pretty much started then. If my memory serves me correctly. Yoochun worked on that mobile 10 episode drama, Beautiful Love; Junsu did Intoxication, and Beautiful Love (I believe that’s the title), both of which were useded for the drama. Then they did the prep work for the Thanksgiving concerts.
I can’t remember, but it seems to me the announcement of the suspension of TOHO activities came around Feb.’10. I tried doing some checking and ran across this…there’s an entry that mentions a BE statement…
http://www.generasia.com/wiki/JYJ
The official announcement was in early April 2010: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20100404b1.html
Avex stopped new Bigeast enrollments at that time, and in fact initially said they weren’t sure if they would continue Bigeast.
Before that was Bigeastation radio show ending (December ’09) and cancelation of the Bigeast fanclub event (supposed to have been held in January). The Best Selection CD was released in mid-February, and I think they promoted in some magazine interviews through Feb.
The official announcement of JaeSuChun’s separate contract with Avex was April 15, 2010 (http://community.livejournal.com/tohosomnia/211775.html) and they were already involved in the BeeTV drama (YC), Sunao (JJ), and Intoxication CD (JS), and the announcement of their Thanksgiving Live in Dome concerts was very shortly after the 15th.
Ok, so for now, it looks like everything centers around April. Well, April is just around the corner, then we should be able to see some kind of action. Obviously, AVEX is trying to milk everything they can for the time being. I’ll lay odds they come up with another release of some sort before it’s all said and done.
The only other hold will be the TOHO contract, which is tied to them still being with SME. Until that is settled in the Korean courts, JYJ is still a legal part of SME. The only issue I want to look for being resolved once the contract is voided, is JYJ going after their copyrights and royalties from SME.
Once that issue has been cleared up, the only contact I want them to have with SME is the deposits in their accounts for what they are owed. I want them to go after EVERY won they are entitled to.
Bloodsuckers using them to get rich and live high off the hog, I want to become a thing of the past. Have your thing going on. Keep the agency representation thing going. Keep YOUR money, in YOUR pocket. No more splits with anyone else. Let some other patsy fund the bank accounts of these thieves.
Don’t let anyone else disrespect you after all the hard work you put out. YOU work hard for the money, YOU keep it!
wow..JYJ is just going through a whole lot..i mean, problem after problem after problem comes their way…they’re just, i don’t know, i can’t find the right term, but really, they are strong, not giving up,
so i believe like them, we should be stronger, i quote the McFly song : IF YOU WANNA FIGHT, I’LL STAND RIGHT BESIDE YOU, THE DAY THAT YOU FALL, I’LL BE RIGHT BEHIND YOU…
i’m disappointed at oricon for agreeing to set this precedent.
with the bad news that are coming, I feel sad for the boys but at the same time so proud that they still continue to fight to be able to do what they want. we must continue to support them ~
WTF AVEX!!
seriously, as a JYJ fan, I must admit how some, or should I say, most of the times I feel so down for all the problems our boys are facing, yet because they continue and strive harder, I, also, try my best to endure all these problems…instead of them getting strength from a fan like me, it’s the other way around, I’m the one getting strength from them..
JYJ Hwaiting!
I feel exactly the same way some times. But please remember, JYJ is still reaching new fans just like me every day. Take strength from the ever growing fandom as well as our inspirational boys. It hurts to read about the obstacles they continue to face and I often get confused as to what to believe, what I should buy, what I should do to best support them. But as long as we continue to love them and each other, we can make it through these troubled times.
even if they’re not on the oricon everybody knows they’re the best. and if they start to forget that then i guess we’ll have to give them an occasional gentle reminder. ^^
i just hope this contract situation ends soon, jyj seem to be the ones benefiting the least from this entire situation (stating the obvious)
Avex is really a fickle issue. So far I´ve heard rumors the reasons were either:
1. They asked JYJ to go back to SME. Before avex was totally supportive to JYJ,I mean dome concert? and max’s lovey dovey tweets about the boys *rotten guy I hope u got what u deserved*, and suddenly they sided with sm. Is it a coincident that they did it after sm signed snsd to universal? They said that cjes background was the reason, but I heard it was actually an avex exec who introduce jyj to the cjes ceo.
I hope avex really think twice about their relationship with sm, sure they still got 2vxq, boa, suju and fx. But the fact they signed shinee to toshiba emi surely proved something else.
2. The same avex exec who introduced jyj to cjes *I forgot his name,maybe someone can help?* was on bad terms with max. Rumors has it that he was going against max for the top spot. So somehow jyj are caught in the middle of it. They said that ayumi backed this guy too.. but seeing how max and ayu are still on speaking terms, I kinda doubt this rumor.
3. Avex wanted jyj to focus their careers in Japan. But the boys dont want to give up on korea, so they choose not to sign the new contract.
4. Avex actually only want to sign two members rather than 3. But the boys refused it.
Err..so many rumors, but this is what I remembered the most.
No.4 makes no logical sense
Fortunately jyj are the midsection of DBSK. if the three of them are their atleast they can create a harmony/sing acappella. Without the three of them they cant sing THSK style songs. I guess if it is tru they would want jae and……?
3. sounds VERY plausible. DITTO no.2
wow.!!!!thats what happen…now i understand..if i’m not mistaken that guy is chiba right!!!last year he shows his closeness with jaejoong…hmm..now make sense…i’m so clueless before this..agh…i hope everything better for them…i dont want japan people have bad image for this talented boys..pray to god everything gonne be better…jyj fighting!!
lol it’s just speculation ^^ just take anything with the grain of the salt…
I’m putting my bet on #1 with a little bit of #2 since it was Chiba who introduced JYJ to CJes. Heck, he even publicly defended CJes when fans brought up CJes shady past.
But yeah, I was thrown off guard when they dropped the news of the suspension. They had been really supportive of JYJ since the beginning of the lawsuit, then there was a blank period with no activities (there wasn’t even any promos for ‘The…’ which seemed to be produced in a rush too) and *bam* comes the suspension.
#3 actually made me wonder, didn’t JYJ reps hinted at something about AVEX wanting to change the contents of their contract but the JYJ sides do not agree with their terms.
Ohhh I could do this all day and just get myself even more confused.
“didn’t JYJ reps hinted at something about AVEX wanting to change the contents of their contract but the JYJ sides do not agree with their terms”
What I found was it JYJ’s legal spokesman Lim Sang Hyuk who stated this (it was reported in ohmynews/DNBN… the translation I found is in a locked blog). He said Avex started wanting to control their schedule more and wanted to change the terms of income distribution, and other stuff JYJ’s side didn’t agree to.
I just wanna ask to our Japanese friends if this is the first time an artist to be excluded in the rankings by such reasons? Thank you.