JYJ3’s Note: How many lies and manipulations can you find in this article? ^__^ Points for the winner! ㅡ.ㅡ…
[NEWS] JYJ Sues in Japan, “Interfering with Concert, Unjust.” Avex Says “We’re Just, In Fact We’re Actually Threatened”
JYJ has filed a lawsuit in Japan against their entertainment company Avex for the reason that it interfered with the concert with which to aid Japan’s damages due to the large earthquakes. Avex has revealed its official position on this issue.
On the 28th, Avex through its official home page dismissed JYJ’s arguments, saying: “Avex legally has the right to JYJ’s management in Japan. Our response (in blocking the concert) is only just and natural to the actions that violate that right (for us to manage JYJ).”
Avex revealed: “This current event is one in which the organize ZAK and JYJ’s Korean entertainment company C-JeS Entertainment has planned without prior permission from Avex. Avex has protested strongly multiple times at this but it was not accepted, and the sales of tickets were unilaterally continued. Although this is the natural action by Avex who holds the legal right we not only received complaints but also the directors were also threatened.”
Avex has revealed its official position: “Currently the reason that JYJ has ceased its activities in Japan is because the lawsuit on the confirmation of the exclusive contract is still maintained in Korea. We will do our best that the lawsuit problems in Korea will all be resolved and Avex can again manage JYJ and also to the aim that they can begin working again as TVXQ in Japan.”
At the same time, JYJ filed for two injunctions in the Tokyo District Court, arguing that: “Avex has engaged in an unjust act in interfering with the concert to aid Japan’s damages from the earthquakes that was to be held on April 5.” At this, Avex has revealed their official position that “to do so was only a just act in order to protect our legal rights” and the issue is gathering attention.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not another lawsuit!!! Seriously this is a bad move…they should’ve waited for the SM issue to resolve first. Getting into another lawsuit is just going to burden them more!! Plus a lot more money will be wasted for the lawyers and all…the tension…GoD, i CAN’T EVEN. Bad approach taken by their management company!
Shit, the boys should’ve known better…I think JYJ will give me a bipolar one day =/
The only way to go against big companies is through law in court. JYJ can’t just wait. SM’s intention is to drag the lawsuit as long as possible.
JYJ’s management company has nothing to do with this. JYJ hired CJES to work for them, not the other way around. JYJ is not in the management relationship with CJES like with SM.
I know…but it’s the company that handles issues like these.
What do you think filing a lawsuit against Avex will help them atm….no even Avex will drag it like hell…end result?? JYJ being forever cockblocked in Japan and Korea=(
I guess JYJ and ofcourse their fans are going through extremely difficult times being in one lawsuit, another one will add more problems tbh, both financially and public image wise, because they’re in Korea and Japan not the U.S where lawsuits are not a big issue for the public….
…and Junho being with AVEX…oh the possibilities, rumors..
the companies just want fans to lose hope in JYJ, so the longer they drag it, the better for the. I hope every thing goes well for the boys!
xavi: you’re too negative, have more faith in JYJ.
They don’t just jump into any decision,they’ve already thought it through and weighted all the pros and cons.
All we should be doing is staying by their sides and supporting them, they know what they’re doing.
@xavi If they don’t sue, they’re stuck in cockblocked limbo for as long as AVEX insists on the contract suspension. It seems as if they’re going after injunctions too just like they did in Korea, which would allow them to work in Japan even as any court case(s) progress.
i think Japanese fans will in the end find it more amazing.. because the boys are fighting for the concert to happened..
read well.. they are not suing to terminate the contract (like what they have with SM)… but rather they are asking the court to allow them to do the charity concert and stop Avex from telling them not to do so.. aside from that the contractual issues and reasons all came from Avex.. but JYJ has no interest in terminating their contracts because they do they could have filed a contract termination case instead.. but again this suing is for the charity event.. if people will just look at it clearly.. they’ll be amazed that these boys are fighting for a non profitable event that would benefit other people who are not even of their same nationality..
Yeah I’m thinking negative…past experience makes one think negative sometimes…WELL OFCOURSE I’LL ALWAYS SUPPORT JYJ IN WHATEVER LEGIT DECISION THEY TAKE…
yeah i know the lawsuit has been filed for the concert issue but tbh, the word “lawsuit” and “JYJ” in the same sentence makes me cringe=/
uh no, THIS WAS NOT A BAD MOVE.
Avex is playing dirty and the only way you deal with it is in court.Sorry, but this is necessary NOW.
After everything that has happened and everything JYJ has been through I honestly pray and believe and genuinely trust they know what they’re doing. If there was no sufficient evidence or reason they would not be doing this, things are serious and for that reason I believe they’re taking this sort of action. So let’s stand by as always and support and hope for the best.
@Mar
From the sum total of all that I have read, I believe they are now suing because they have every hope of winning and they can no longer be passive about AVEX’s repeated attempts to undermine, smear and ruin all that they’ve worked so hard for in Japan.
I honestly believe from the information that I have gathered that AVEX can’t win any more than SM can–they are both in the wrong, legally.
So once again, I applaud JYJ for their incredible courage to stand tall and fight for their right to have a career.
If you haven’t noticed the court has already laid their verdict for the contracts since Oct. 2009 and AGAIN to get through SME thick skulls in Feb. this year (or November of 2010). This blocking of a charity as well as suspending JYJ contracts while sell their products all happened AFTER Feb.
I’d rather had them file a lawsuit than allow Avex to play tricks on them like they were children,, plus Avex admitted that they did stop the charity concert to protect themselves.. which is from what?
a charity event for their own people stricken by disaster is prevented because of their selfish fears and insecurities.. JYJ can just let it go and leave Japan behind since a lot of countries will welcome them.. but they lived there.. loved the people.. had tons of friends that they could just not take “no” as an answer.. Japan is already a small market for them and they could just give it to other idols and forget about performing there since it’s that countries loss.. but JYJ knows when to fight and when not.. they have been all quiet when avex blocks their popularity and they did not do anything to fight and just remain silent.. but hindering their desire to help is the last string.. and all worth the fight..
well said..agreed
tama!
ang daming drama mula kahapon .. haaayst.. di lang ako maka comment dahil sa trabaho pero nakaka lurky.. pag good news sabay sabay .. pag bad nes ganun din.. haahahaaay
agreed
Oo nga. Sabi nga, rollercoaster ride talaga pagiging fan ng JYJ…kakabaliw! kaya ayun, adik din tingin sa kin ng mga kapatid ko… hayst~!
Awww-ing at your comment jenknight18. Right now, the only thing I am really sure of is that I will stand by the boys no matter what. Tapos na ang ang mudslinging and rumor-mongering. They have faith in their fans and we should have faith in them too 🙂
Agree hands down wholeheartedly~~
me tama ka!
JYJ and CJES management relationship is not like SM and JYJ… TBH I think that kind of management relationship works only in KOREA…
So regarding the lawsuit with AVEX… Its JYJ’s decision i think… CJES does not have the power to do. JYJ is in control of everything from decision making – costume and stage.
So… lets not blame CJES and support JYJ’s decision which i think is the best… instead of waiting for nothing… at least suing will let the COURT decide.
true..nakakabaliw maging fan nila but i just can’t help it eh…sabi ng husband ko wala na akong ginawang iba kundi maghanap ng updates tungkol dito…everyday is a roller coaster ride for the boys…
well anyway, for suing in japan, okey yon..at least makikita ng avex marunong naman palang umalma ang jyj against them…i;m just praying hard JYJ will get through this lawsuit with flying colors…at ng makita ng mga hinayupak na avex na yan kung sino kinakalaban nila…
nakakaloka..! JYJ and JYJ family fighting..!
Yep. It has to be done. The lawsuit with SM is being dragged on just to screw JYJ over. They know perfectly well that in court their case won’t win.
Avex is full of contradictions and they are seriously causing damage for them in Japan. They have an “exclusive contract” with JYJ that is now under “temporary suspension” and they also conveniently have another contract with the guys under TVXQ despite the fact that JYJ is no longer in that group and disputing their contract with SM. If it isn’t one thing it’s another. They need to get rid of both these leeches so that they can move on. Unfortunately filing an injunction is the only option.
Many other companies that are just as strong if not more so than Avex can sign JYJ on. People give Avex way too much credit. If they are so great they wouldn’t act like this. SM is no better. Like the saying goes, “It gets worse before it gets better.”
It is the culture of both countries that makes this hard. You don’t ever want to be the one to rock the boat and they know that so they take advantage. They make these artists sign on to these abusive contracts and they know that the artists have little bargaining power. If they try something others are too scared to join or they are labeled as “ingrates”. Asserting ones’ own rights is seen as a “bad thing” to do. It is so hard for the boys because very few people have had the courage to stand up to these idiots before. Don’t be one of them. Have faith that they are doing the right thing and that it will go well for them.
@Mia2 –
Good one! I like everything you said. And remember–JYJ’s fans are the X-factor in all of these variables. If we expose the true facts of each issue, loudly and consistently, due to today’s modern media and social networking, the public at large will get the facts and naturally side with JYJ, a group of young men from whom they get something of great value–their music,their beautiful images and maybe most importantly, their loving HEARTS.
If we their ardent supporters never never give up this fight and always clamor for justice for them, it will create a shockwave that will be felt at every level in Japan and Korea. So lets keep our eyes on the prize here…
@MIA2 Totally agree with your comment.
you worry to much..JYJ are not guilty ,why should JYJ afraid to prove that they are not guilty..guys,just believe in JYJ..
I know what Avex did is unfair, but..I don’t think they need another lawsuit, I’m afraid that it’ll just cost the boys more stress and troubles.
JYJ FIGHTING~
Yes, they do need another lawsuit, because without it there will be stress and troubles in perpetuity. Now they can let their lawyers do the work and resolve this once and for all.
“Avex legally has the right to JYJ’s management in Japan . Our response (in blocking the concert) is only just and natural to the actions that violate that right (for us to manage JYJ).”
“Avex legally has the right to JYJ’s management in Japan [Read: even though we are the ones who decide to suspense them in Japan for no valid reason other than the fact that they refuse to let us have all the money they earn]. Our response (in blocking the concert) is only just [Read: coz if we will not be able to gain alot of money from them] and natural [Read: natural? What natural disaster? Nothing is more important than us earning money!!] to the actions that violate that right [Read: our right for earning money] (for us to manage JYJ).” [Read: so as to earn more money]
This is exactly what the siutation is, and Lady Karma is watching over all of this AVEX, just you wait and see.
WOW, your legal rights are more important than helping out your fellow citizens.
Well, I suggest you go around to all those whom these funds will help and tell them about your legal rights.
Exactly what is , All about money that is clear that is what Avex is saying .. I thought Charity was for the people not AVEX so if that is the case then what about the Charity Event there going to have does the money go to the people. This makes me question that. I agree with JYJ I feel bad they have to go to this route. I’m sure JYJ thought they could do a charity event at lest. I don’t think they would push this if they felt they could not do so. Avex you could have let this go really would it have been a big issue. If it was about the date matter then the boys could have picked a different date. Avex I feel like you forced there hand. Cause of the way you blasted this on twitter makes me question your professionalism.
I’m standing by our boys no matter!!
I trust they know what they are doing and will give them support!!
What’s with the negativity? Geez~~
The houses are already on fire! Do we need them to be burn down before actions are to be taken??
I know~ *sigh*
C’mon guys, think of it this way… if you feel troubled about this, how do you think JYJ is feeling? All we nned to do now is support them. We have been stating our frustrations and anger against AVEX’s moves to hinder JYJ from keeping their hold on the Japanese fans/market to the extent that even the disster affected oppulation’s welfare is compromised. So why are we saying JYJ doesn’t need this lawsuit now?
This is their way to tell the public that they are not kids and they will not be pushed around. So yes. I am for this lawsuit.
*population*
I am standing behind you too
JYJ have every right to fight their right and will support them 100%
Agreed! this lawsuit has to happen now.
avex made a huge mistake in blocking a CHARITY concert
to help their own country. their reason being the ‘their
exclusive contract’ is more important than helping their
own country will definitely raised eyebrows in the industry
as well as the public. The Court will have to consider
public opinion in this matter, if not Japan’s ministry of Law, tourism, entertainment and others will receive an avalanche of emails from JYJ fans all over the world.
@jiji-sama
“The Court will have to consider
public opinion in this matter, if not Japan’s ministry of Law, tourism, entertainment and others will receive an avalanche of emails from JYJ fans all over the world.”
If ANYONE knows the appropriate email addresses to post such emails, PLEASE post them! WE will do the rest!
all we can do is suppor and be patient and wait some more. surely they have good reasons for this or they would not do it. trust them.
For them to work as TVXQ again means they’ll have to go back to SM or is there another way that I unaware of.
Also truth be told Homin are selling quite well without JYJ so why would SM allow JYJ back when they’re doing quite well without them unless JYJ apologizes and goes back kneeling begging for forgiveness.
I am just confused at all of this and the logic. Can’t wait for the day all these lawsuits end.
Are you really sure HM are doing well w/o JYJ??
I seriously doubt so~~
¡I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT TOO!
it’s just Avex playing tricks by touching the sentimental THSK fans string of desire for the 5 to unite.. but if TVXQ for you is successful much more is JYJ.. plus they are so free in pursuing their personal dreams.. if i were them (and i know for a fact) that they dont have whatsoever desire to comeback to SM and leave C-jes who has been with them when no one else would.. JYJ might reunite only when SM comes kneeling and begging for them to do so,, (life’s ironic i know)
@jenknight
“JYJ might reunite only when SM comes kneeling and begging for them to do so”
I don’t think THAT’S ever gonna happen. You don’t fight this long & this hard to get away from an abusive, manipulative, pathological liar only to turn around & believe their BS & entrust your welfare to them again.
I believe so too.. well i just wish SM comes kneeling down and begging to JYJ to come back just to be turned down.. that’s double slap..!
“Also truth be told Homin are selling quite well without JYJ.”
well it’s easy to sell a lot of albums when your company is selling your cds at a lower price than normal, and when that doesn’t work they buy multiple copies to help boost sales. 😡
homin can only play up being the sole members of tvxq without jyj for so long before bigeast turns on them just like cassiopeia did.
but you’re right. jyj would have to beg and grovel at sme’s feet to be apart of the fab five again.
lol that smiley wasn’t supposed to look mad.
Isn’t ZAK and C-Jes the one who file the lawsuit against Avex? why this article says JYJ did it? and most(or all) of article says just Avex’s side not the boys’ side, what an unjust. 😦
… And the sh*t is hitting the fan…
Instead of just words, AVEX is going to have to put up or shut up because all we have are their words and no proof showing their claimed ‘exclusive rights’ over all JYJ activities.
pray for jyj to win!! everybody lets support our boys decision^^
i think jyj is stress with or without lawsuit. so to settle this forever they can do it by law
*pressing “like” button* ^^
Are you guys serious?
Do you think the boys WANT more lawsuit? Lawsuits as you say are expensive and time-consuming and induce stress. Do you think the boys will file this lawsuit if they had JUST A CHANCE that they would be okay without it?
The boys had to file the lawsuit because look at Avex. They are openly admitting to blocking JYJ’s activities. ALSO don’t you know that SM keeps delaying the lawsuit? It’s been like 4 delays already, and this is JUST on the district court! They have the appellate court AND the supreme court to go to– this will take 5 years or MORE to get completely resolved. You cannot tell JYJ to not seek their RIGHTS because they have another lawsuit going on.
Also, don’t you see what Avex is doing? It’s lying and manipulating people in public to ruin JYJ’s reputation and to force things that they do not want to do. How can you expect JYJ to work with people like this?
Come on guys. You need to think and not just react viscerally. The people who are THE MOST STRESSED is JYJ. Yet they chose to take this on. AND THERE ARE CLEAR REASONS WHY. Don’t tell them not to seek their rights because it makes FANS stressed. Instead, get angry at Avex for CLEARLY LYING AND MANIPULATING FANS and think of ways to HELP JYJ win. That’s the thing we should do as fans.
This response was to @xavi loves JYJ and to @untinnu and not others… a lot of comments became posted within the 3 minutes it took to type this ^^;;
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JYJ r way more stress than us…. so we need 2 support them wholeheartedly… jyj fighting!!!! jyj fans fighting!!!!!!!
I support this comment. *gives a gold star*
YESS! I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!
JYJ would never take another lawsuit on if it wasn’t the only way.
They’ve already tried everything else and this is the only logical choice left.
Thank you.
I never said the boys are not stressed, or AVEX isn’t playing dirty, everyone knows this so you don’t need to scream…ofcourse Avex deserves a lawsuit, but now? when JYJ is already going through an emotional ride?
Rivals and competitors should be dealt with extreme caution…
and yes, hardcore fans like us will for them always, but they need to grab the attention of general public, they need to make more fans…that will happen once all this mess is over with…
wait for them*
I don’t want to turn this into an argument so I will only ask two things.
(1) Who CAUSED “this mess”?
It’s certainly not JYJ, and I hope we agree on that. Let’s say Adam is strolling when suddenly Bill jumps out and beats him up. Adam files a lawsuit against Bill. Who “caused” this lawsuit?
(2) When will this mess “be OVER with”?
I can tell you… the Korean lawsuit is going to take five years at least… I’m personally looking at 10 years and longer because for sure SM will appeal all the way to the Supreme Court and keep delaying to the best of its abilities. The boys can’t be subjected to injustice that long. This is a lifelong battle, in a way– for JYJ and for their fans, you and me. It’s not something that will just be “over” soon… unless JYJ decides to give up their fight for justice and reform in the industry. Let you and I both hope that such does not happen, and let’s accept his and stick with them thick and thin.
well, I hope this lawsuit gets over quickly, but I doubt that eventhough the issue is legit and not very big, Avex will try to drag it… if the court quickly allows JYJ to have a charity concert in Japan, everything will be well and good…but later Avex will would be blood thirsty for them…their Japanese activities will take forever to happen then.
@xavi loves JYJ either way it also d same… if they dun take action, they cant perform at japan at all but if they try to take action, they maybe can or cant perform in japan…. so better take d risk now….. 😀
And just how do you expect them to get the general public’s attention if they can’t promote in either country? They can’t appear on TV in Korea or do ANYTHING in Japan. The people who know about them are their fans from the TVXQ days. Otherwise they would have been screwed.
They promoted themselves through concerts and using the news media. Otherwise what would have happened? In this case they have a very big advantage. They are already famous. They aren’t nobodies so their plight is in the public eye. But they know that it can’t go on like this forever. They need to get new fans. They know that but before that can happen they need to get rid of SM/Avex. If they don’t then SM/Avex will continue to find ways to interfere.
It is now or never.
@MIA2 I completely agree with ur comment and that they need this lawsuit to get newer fans but Pls don’t forget that a lot of JYJ fans are original JYJers not from TVXQ days. Most new fans are (from what I see) skks fans who came to know jyj through yoochun. ^^
With you there @Jacques. Very good comment!
@Jacques –
” Don’t tell them not to seek their rights because it makes FANS stressed. Instead, get angry at Avex for CLEARLY LYING AND MANIPULATING FANS and think of ways to HELP JYJ win. That’s the thing we should do as fans.”
Well said! The ONLY thing we should be doing right now is thinking of 100 ways to actively support JYJ in ways that AVEX will notice. Total solidarity on the part of fans will show them that they cannot win this war of bullshit press-release rhetoric they are waging–that we deplore each and every preposterous assertion they make.
This I believe is all JYJ require of us, as fans. To be behind them until the end, no matter what. And for myself, I (and everyone around me I can manage to convince) will be voting with my purse-strings never to buy a product with AVEX’s name on it, ever again. I don’t tweet, but if I did, that’s what I would be tweeting to Max.
@Jacques
Nodding my head in agreement.
If you are too afraid or cautious to fight for your legal rights, then you have no-one but yourself to blame when others continue to trample all over you. Major respect to JYJ for ALWAYS having the courage, integrity & strength to keep fighting for what is right, regardless of how hard, faithless & thankless that road sometimes is. How many of us jumped up & down in passionate agreement saying we would always trust JYJ & their decisions when Hayato asked us too? & how many of those same people are now questioning & critcising this decision? So much for the eternal faith in JYJ. For me, their actions have proven time & time again that I can trust them, that they know what they are doing, that they won’t force an issue just for the sake of it, but because it’s a wall that won’t be knocked down any other way. I know we all love them, we all worry about them, & we all want the best for them – & because we’re all individuals, we have differing ideas on the best way’s to go about getting the best for them. But the one thing we can all do is trust them & support their decisions. This isn’t a game, it’s their whole lives, their careers, their passion. They aren’t going to jump in at the deep end without having thought & talked things through very thoroughly with each other, their legal team, & their families too. So can we please give them the unconditional love they give us, & the constant & consistent support they need from us their fans, to help them through this next battle?
@Sapphire
“Major respect to JYJ for ALWAYS having the courage, integrity & strength to keep fighting for what is right, regardless of how hard, faithless & thankless that road sometimes is.”
“For me, their actions have proven time & time again that I can trust them, that they know what they are doing, that they won’t force an issue just for the sake of it, but because it’s a wall that won’t be knocked down any other way. ”
I so love you for saying these~~ Muacks!! ^^
Am always keeping the faith~~ And I totally agree that they should be strong and fight for their rights cool-headedly with reason, logic and complete proof~
@Sapphie
“This isn’t a game, it’s their whole lives, their careers, their passion”
Mommy-hen is proud of her ‘little chick’. **BIG KISS ON THE CHEEK**
You Go Girl! 😉
Thank you Mommy-hen. I have profound respect for you & your approval means a lot to me. ♥
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i’m agree with Jacques
yep, sometimes fans forget, that JYJ are the one who stressed out for this. but they still do it. come on guys, its about their rights of freedom to do whatever they want (which have been legally granted in korea, more than once). i believe this is the perfect time for them to sue avex. heck, avex even blocked a charity event for helping japan. and they still tainted cjes’ name and potrayed the boys for some fool n mistaken boys. if avex have done such lowly acts, how can u expect they wont continue badmouthing n ruining jyj’s name n image?they even dont recognize jyj’s name.. they use JJY for earth sake!
if jyj keep silent, then japan fans n public will only believe what avex have said, since they cant hear jyj’s side of story. beside what cjes n jyj suing avex is the charity event. not cancellation of their contract. actually i believe this is a good move coz can u imagine the media cover of this story… avex, a japan entertainment company blocked a charity event for helping its own country just because,i quote “…just act in order to protect our legal rights”. japan media n public will eat avex right to the bones. i mean, i believe, for anyone who sees this act of charity blocked by avex will agree that avex have done a very fatal mistake in this matter. if not legally than in humanity sense. i believe any human being will despise avex for blocked an event meant for humanity, an non-profit event. this a very good chance for cjes n jyj. and yep, i agree, cjes n jyj arent in any loss if they loss to avex in this (which i believe they wont). but with the media cover, they have gain people attention.
and knowing jyj, dont u think they also have think about their fans’ reaction? but i believe, they know they can lean on fans’ support, as we see how much they keep saying that fans’ support are their strength n how they forever grateful for our support during this hard time. so, guys, i also believe we wont dissapoint them, right?
JYJ, Cjes, ZAK fighting!!!! japan fans, lets do wonder and make avex looks like idiot, just like SK fans keep doing it to sme. international fans, lets keep supporting them in any way we can!!!
guys relax… sooner or later it also d same… jyj going 2 sue avex too…. so i guess since recently avex r doing many bad things to jyj i guess this is d correct time for them 2 sue avex… plus their lawsuit in korea seems nowhere 2 end sooner… it always getting postponed… even im getting sick of it… but still i get a blow from junho contracting with avex…. i dun undertsand what is he thinking….
“Currently the reason that JYJ has ceased its activities in Japan is because the lawsuit on the confirmation of the exclusive contract is still maintained in Korea.”
Uh, Avex? That got knocked down TWICE already. If this is the bulk of your defense you’re gonna lose.
In reality, there’s no way this won’t go the same way the lawsuit in Korea is going. It’s the same bullshit but on top of that, Avex shot their own selves in the foot with their claims to JYJ cause they’re the ones that suspended the contract.
Plus this case already has a precedent in the Korean courts.
Their doing the right thing… In the first place avex is the one who suspended their activities coz of homin. So I don’t see anything wrong about it… Avex your the one who’s creating this big mess don’t blame JYJ for suing
I support them 10000000000%. Am i worried that another lawsuit will bring them more worries and troubles? of course i am. but i also know that they think every decision through before taking action and they wouldn’t do something unless it was absolutely necessary. i’ll be there no matter what. i love these 3 so much…im just hoping for the best.
All I have to say is REVEAL the contracts so we will no your claims is the “truth” because other wise Avex is just like SME in that department of speaking their “truth” with no evidence backing up their claims.
I may not agree with lawsuits but this is needed to bring an end to all of this 360 degree turns from Avex even it costs them japan.
Avex needs to make a concise choice and stick by it. Are they going to represent JYJ or not. If not for whatever reasons that may not hold up in court then terminate the contract. If yes, then adhere to the contract.
So this is for real this time?
JYJ do what you have to do.
I’m worried but like I said, I trust
JYJ and if they know they are right in their
judgement of what’s going on professionally with
Avex then FIGHT. GO JYJ!
I shall wait for the results and conclusion..
Personally I feel that Korea VS Japan; both has different culture and management system and Avex has been a pretty old label and rather big (consider an ancestor?!?! most probably..) in Japan…
Thus, there’s a possibility that Japan’s court ruling might have another point of view on this matter (in the sense that helping their fellowship)..
I definitely do, and would hope that our boys (JYJ) can held more events, concerts and even make TV appearances often just like every now & then… 🙂
go for it jyj’s company, fully support you! but hopefully the law in japan is more just and acts more efficiently than the one in korea. And no bias towards big company Avex.
but what i don’t get is, they want the charity benefit concert to continue on, but will the lawsuit be done accordingly by then?
lol i just went 2 max twitter, n guess what??? there r some japanese fan believe that him 2 bring back tohoshinki5… i feel like i want 2 tweet that girls saying STOP DREAMING!!!!!!!!!
Its just funny to me that they are protesting their right to manage JYJ was taken away from them when tickets when tickets were sold without their consent.
If blocking Oricon chart is their example of ‘managing JYJ’ then no wonder DUH!
There should be a penalty for these delaying tactics, like for example SM should also be prevented from being on TV while JYJ is – an eye for an eye. Monetary penalties never work. And who is enforcing/keeping track of and penalyzing the violations of the block?
ikr… it sooo obvious they want to dominate jyj… but i think avex is way more lame than sm… why??? bcoz they r not good in lying like SME… hehhe
We all know that AVEX stopped JYJs activities in Japan and bind them intentionally. In that way… JYJ cannot signed with other rival management company in Japan, and cannot appear to the public bec of what? bec from the start AVEX and SM were ganging up…
Everything is intentional.
AVEX never really want to settle everything with JYJ… because if they plan to work with them again if everything’s settled… AVEX as JYJ’s existing management company should have not defamed them on twitter and should at all cost keep the artist’s reputation in mind.
At least if they sue… there’s a chance that the court will settle everything… instead of waiting for AVEX to do the next move and let it bind them again and again.
lets just support them!
Maybe we should calm down a bit more with every thing?
I think this news was written based on AVEX announcement and what I gasp from the official announcement it’s C-JeS + ZAC corp. that filed the lawsuit against AVEX in Japan. I think that is the smart move from JYJ and C-JeS.
Why?
What you can see clearly in the past 8 months is that the situation in Japan for JYJ is getting worse and worse. Let’s face it, JYJ can’t work in Japan. Even the charity event, AVEX still claim that they own the rights over JYJ, which is partially true. We should also keep in mind that the lawsuit between JYJ and SM in Korea is far from being settled. Even if the court could conclude the case within this year, SM would file more appeal and drag this case for, at least, another year. By this, AVEX could still claim their rights over JYJ with the old contract they have with Tohoshinki members (all five of them.)
So, JYJ don’t have much to lose in Japan, especially after AVEX announcement in September 2010 which already taint JYJ’s reputation. The only way JYJ could go back and work in Japan properly is definitely not sitting at home, waiting for the lawsuit in Korea to be resolved but rather pushin AVEX out of the equation.
How?
The only power that could force AVEX out of the equation is from the Japanese court.
I know another lawsuit would be nerve-breaking for many fans. However, I believe that JYJ lawsuit has become a part of our fandom lives since July 2009 and we have learned a lot from it. What we can do at the moment is being calm and accept JYJ’s decision. Or else, you could try to send an email to C-JeS, asked them to take care of their steps.
To be honest, I don’t really have high hope in C-JeS but I lost all hope with SM and AVEX before. As far as I know, even though sometimes C-JeS seemed lack of experiences but they did try to do their best for JYJ. More importantly, this is the company that gives JYJ freedom of speech, works and lives.
Wait until things can be seen more clearly…only then, we can judge whether this is bad or good.
THIS…girls…THIS!!!!!!!!!!!
A+ my friend…you totally convince me
I´m totally agree with you.
Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu have wait too much time already and this situation doesn´t change. Actually is getting worse.
Like you said the only way to solve this is with a lawsuit.
It will be difficul and tiring, but if the boys can´t accept this stuation anymore there is not anything else they can do.
I know a lot of fans are worried abuot this. But, what exactly do you expect JYJ to do? To wait another year and another and to let avex to keep dirtng JYJ´s nam and confusing the fans?
Maybe, at the time would be already too late. Please, try to understand jyj´s actions and felings.
They are the ones who are suffering more.
Just let´s show them our full support! 🙂
100% agree!
At least if they sue… there’s a chance that the court will settle everything… instead of waiting for AVEX to do the next move and let it bind them again and again.
lets just support them!
AVEX is trying that same bully technique SME tried.
Yes, SME is keeping JYJ off of music/variety shows, charts, and radio. But this simply caused JYJ and its agency to become creative in how to market them. And that is working out quite well. 🙂
AVEX is trying to squeeze that formula as well. The big difference here, their contract with JYJ is not a long term one. It is coming to an end soon. So, they are woofing hot air. They have come very close to slander, if not crossing the line. So, the more noise they make, the more they hope folks stop paying attention.
JYJ’s legal situation is being handled by a very savvy team. Yes, SME is probably without a doubt going to appeal. But the funny thing about appeals, in order for one to be accepted, it has to have merit. One can’t appeal just for the sake of it. You must be able to find a weak spot is whatever decision comes down. So far, SME’s attorneys haven’t been able to find the front door let alone handle the case with any sign of brains. So, I don’t think it will take long to expedite this case.
The more these companies try and block JYJ, the more the fates are handing JYJ opportunities to show how deserving they are of the support that comes their way.
All the fans have to do is support, keep JYJ’s back. Nothing will show AVEX and SME how fruitless their attacks are.
Nothing ‘else’ will show AVEX and SME how fruitless their attacks are.
MOMMIE~!!! Finally I caught you!!! *hugs u tight*
I say yes yes to what you said, wise Momma~! ^________^
Hi sweetums. Hugs back at you! I’ve been trying to catch up with you too. How are you feeling? Better?
@ButterFliesAreFree
** A+++++ **
🙂
and it makes you wonder hard and long why/what SME and AVEX are afraid of…JYJ’s only 3 people but these asshole companies are doing their damnest to cockblock them in every which way…using the lamest and stupidest reasons i’ve ever had the chance to hear and read…
aigoo~~~
The reason they are afraid…just like at the end of The Wizard of Oz…the curtain is drawn back and all the mystery or lack there of is finally revealed.
Big powerful companies are the ‘only’ way to go!
Really? Wow, look at JYJ, same industry, same work, raking in big bucks and keeping ‘most’ of the money!
Who knew? Hmmmmmmmmmm.
As much as JYJ is violating the exclusive contract
so is Avex
Because they are NOT promoting JYJ, that is what they are suposed to be doing
I agree. Even if the korea Sm lawsuit ends right now Sm will always try to find other cases to drag for as long as they want. Afterall the disadvantaged party will always be the celebrities themselves. The companies knew it. Dragging lawsuits would be detrimental to celebs’ fame and youth whereas the company can use the time to further attain their agenda.
From the fact that these companies always try ways and means to block jyj and giving contradicting & silly reasons, it should be quite obvious to note that the issue is not really abt the contract/lawsuit, but rather that these butthuet
Butthurt companies are trying to all they can to destroy them since they can’t get them. It is their this agenda which is worrying. These two being giant companies in both korea and japan basically have some sort of monopoly in the entertainment industry, they can block whoever they want. Although having more lawsuits now may not seem good to jyj, I think thats the only way they can do. If not the companies will forever use the reason of ‘contract’ to bind jyj, to continue to kid fans, to manipulate responses…
(Sorry if i sound a bit incoherent, a bit tired now lol )
Oh God, not the “to the aim that they can begin working again as TVXQ in Japan” bullshit. That’s how they keep the OT5s on their side and sadly, it seemingly works.
@Ashley – SPOT ON. The Avex execs keep spouting off about how much they yearn to see all 5 on stage again (and *cough* moneyrolling back in their pockets *cough*)…and it’s entirely BS to keep pulling the heartstrings of those poor (thousands) of fans who still believe that TVXQ/DBSK will EVER be 5 again – at least in the next decade.
*My personal belief is that they will all be married with kids before they stand on a stage together again – it’s just that f’d up – and anyone who doesn’t see how fully ruptured the group is, not only from a mangement standpoint but as individuals unwilling to concede,…well, they’re being willfully delusional.
….and Avex is using that to it’s fullest extent. My biggest fear is not the ongoing lawsuits – it’s the rate at which new idols are being pitched-out onto the stages of Asia – and even though so many of them LOOK & SOUND the same – a few of them are actually GOOD. Ultimately, the life-span of musical artists (in Asia) is limited to youth. YES, our guys are bonafide artists, not just idols…but they only have finite time to establish a new fanbase as JYJ in order to continue to flourish as top-grossing artists into middle-age.
The quicker more fans come to them & the more *old* fans realize they are NOT going back to TVXQ – the BETTER!
@sally_b
“…anyone who doesn’t see how fully ruptured the group is, not only from a mangement standpoint but as individuals unwilling to concede,…well, they’re being willfully delusional.”
Aint THAT the truth!
I don’t really pity the delusional fans who are being used by Avex. It is worrisome because there are a lot of them but that is about it. I don’t sympathize because they are selfish, uniformed (and unwilling to get off their keisters and look for dependable info) and tend to be Homin biased. If you like Homin then keep ’em, why go to JYJ videos to post your annoying thoughts about how JYJ needs to go back? Seriously if you and the ‘new wave’ fans think Homin is *so* much better then leave it at that and piss off.
Time is one factor that can help sink into these numb-skulls’ heads that JYJ is not going back but JYJ doesn’t really have time. They deserve to perform normally like TVXQ can. And soon. Not into middle-age. The fans, JYJ’s many teams, the media, progressives in Korea, admirers of JYJ, EVERYONE!!! need to get together to blow SM/Avex out of the water and into hell where they belong.
I am OT5 and I can promise you that Avex isn’t fooling me any. It’s one thing to wish the boys to re-unite one day (trust me, even I know how crazy and unrealistic that sounds right now), and it’s quite another to allow any companies to take advantage in anyway: REST ASSURED THAT I WANT AVEX TO STICK IT UP THEIR ASSES AND I AM FURIOUS WHEN THEY DARE TO SPEAK OF BRINGING THE BOYS TOGETHER AGAIN, when I can see clearly how awful they are treating the boys right now.
Oh the rage. You can count on it.
I am also concerned that JYJ is limited in being able to attract new fans since they are blocked so heavily wherever they go, while being tremendously proud how they continue to strive to realize their creative dreams both as human being and as artists. As hard as it is to stay connected to both sides, because, as you said, the two sides are incredibly ruptured at this point, I feel such contentment in watching JYJ grow while I sometimes (okay a lot of times) cry when witnessing their pain and their courage: so inspiring. Our boys.
It’s been a rough couple of years.
I know this is a JYJ-dedicated site, so I try to limit what I speak of to just JYJ to respect those who come here, and I love how JYJ is so loved. I just feel the need to also point out that, while OT5s are wishing for the boys’ reunion, not all of us are wishing for that to happen at the expense of JYJ in any way. As a matter of fact, a lot of us are willing to let that dream fade into the background when seeing how the boys suffer and really need to be freed.
So sometimes that wish for re-union is like dreaming the impossible dream, kept in the secret corner of our hearts, even if it does seem delusional. It’s just for a little comfort, when the grief is so intense still. We just can’t help it, since we love the five so much (and a part of me really believe that, if and when it happens organically and without outside manipulation or interference, re-connecting can be very healing for the five of them, too, since they grew up as brothers, but of course that’s between them and God). I just know I will never stop hoping and praying, for anything and everything that’s in their highest good, for they’ve given me SO MUCH JOY.
But not all of us will ever want to hurt JYJ or allow some awful company use that love to hold JYJ back on becoming who they are. In fact it’s infuriating. How dare them. The thought alone burns me with rage, and I know I am not alone in this. It’s complicated, but some OT5s, as much as we wish for them to be together again, really do love JYJ whole-heartedly and are capable of caring about them enough to support them unconditionally, too. We can see realistically what’s happening as the situations unfold themselves, and learn not be used against our boys when our own hearts are split, too. I would like to think that I can, or I definitely try. It’s been a rough couple of years. We’ve had to learn a lot and grow with the boys, too.
I am crying as I write this, because actually, it still hurts. It really hasn’t been easy.
But I love them, and I know it’s my choice, too, so I am responsible for all these feelings. Sorry about the long entry, and thanks for letting me say this much. I hope it’s clear that I really do respect JYJ fans, and don’t mean to take anything away from what’s been shared here. Just wanted to add my own experiences to it as well.
Thank you.
Emma,
JYJ are indeed fortunate to have fans like you.
You are part of the reason they are where they are. You supported them when they were part of 5, and you still care for them as 3. You can be proud of that love and support. This is part of what makes them go on. Knowing they have fans, no matter their stripe, who are out there for them.
All the beautiful work you see them produce, this is for their fans. All of them. So, don’t ever sell yourself short on being appreciated by anyone else who cares for the guys.
Neither AVEX nor SME are going to beat JYJ or their fans – ALL OF THEM! Comback any time. 😉
@Emma, I completely agree with you. I’m a fan like you. I supported the 5 and now I support the 3. While it would be nice to see the 5 back together, I want it on their own terms and not because of a company. I am willing to forgo my OT5 dreams if JYJ wants to stay as three because to go back as 5 will mean going back to SM or compromising their faith/stance.
Gosh, I am sleepy, so not making much sense. Forgive my run-on sentences.
@Emma You put it beautifully, thank you. I’m the same as you: I wish for OT5 one day, but NEVER at the expense or sacrifice of JYJ. And it’s infuriating and insulting to see Avex spouting promises of “we will bring the 5 together” to fans while they’re doing everything in their power to *ruin* JYJ. Some days I hate them more than SM, because SM is just lying money-grubbing corporation with its fake “family.” But Avex has the drama queens on Twitter and uses fans’ emotions and hopes to try to appear like they’re innocent victims.
@sakana17 –
“@Emma You put it beautifully, thank you. I’m the same as you: I wish for OT5 one day, but NEVER at the expense or sacrifice of JYJ. And it’s infuriating and insulting to see Avex spouting promises of “we will bring the 5 together” to fans while they’re doing everything in their power to *ruin* JYJ.”
The ~ONLY~ way I will accept or welcome a reunion is if the 5 members themselves all want it and call for it.
This is not a decision to be made by SM or AVEX –this is for the five principals only. Personally, I don’t think it will happen any time in the near future. There is too much hurt and real anguish among JYJ and all they’ve had to endure to even consider a reunion at this point. For me–that’s fine. I am happy with The Three and their incredible talents and future possibilities. I really love JYJ. I do not look back and I intuitively feel that they are not looking back at this point either.
Yup your right! Their doing sm thing against JYJ… The thing is I don’t undertand avex first they support JYJ and now just becouse of that Korean wave they just left them and persue homin? Coz of sm? Are they f……ing kidding me! JYJ fight for your right don’t let them control or manipulate u fight for your freedom as a singer. JYJ Fighting!!!
If the boys have decided to fight, then I fully support them. AVEX has to deal with the consequences of what it has done to boys. It deserted its duty of an agency to work for the best interest of artists. It is AVEX who is illegal here, and has lost its right to the “exclusive management” of JYJ by deserting its duty first.
Moreover, Korean law has ruled that JYJ can do activities independent from SME. SME has been ruled to violate the freedom provision of Korean Constitution for its slave contract. Who is immoral and illegal here? Why does AVEX victimize victims again for what Korean law says okay? AVEX has been unreasonable so far, but now it becomes illegal for its interfering with its interferences with the 3rd party’s business contracts. This suit only initiates to reveal what AVEX has done to boys. I am looking forward to the outcome. Go JYJ!
@accidentallybrunette
“AVEX has to deal with the consequences of what it has done to the boys. It deserted its duty of an agency to work for the best interest of artists. It is AVEX who is illegal here, and has lost its right to the “exclusive management” of JYJ by deserting its duty first.”
This is what is so interesting and I’m sure, it is a time-tested, well-understood legal strategy… accuse your opponent of the very things you yourself are doing – with a straight face. No doubt, JYJ’s excellent legal team is onto this transparent ploy. Let’s put our faith in this excellent team. They appear to be batting 1000.
i dont know about you guys but i more determined to support the guy now more than ever. my mom doesnt want me to go to their concert but i will continue to beg i want to support the guys and this concert is gong to give them more money and they are going to need it. JYJ is not goingdown avex they have us to fully support them and when they finally get out and take over the japanese charts im gonna laugh in your damn face avex. if this is how its going to go down then be it! im ready for the next fight!
JYJ FIGHTING!
“We’re Just, In Fact We’re Actually Threatened”
AHAHAH this made me giggle
really avex? yeaaaa you guys are totally being threatened by 3 amazing kind hearted guys that want nothing but to help the country they consider their second home
Yup it makes me more determined to stay by the three’s side^^
good news are like nutrients to us, they make us healthy and grow~ but ‘negative’ news make us stronger and more united too!
Sorry, haven’t read through all the responses but THIS is what I see as the crux of the problem: “…to the aim that they can begin working again as TVXQ in Japan.” They are trying to force JYJ in rejoining basically under the same conditions, god forbid!
This just goes to show what a greedy, loathsome, and contemptible company they are. Granted businesses have a self-interest in making money but this goes WAY beyond that. I find them AMORAL. I wouldn’t put anything past them and don’t!
I started yelling at my computer screen when I read this. Feel better for ranting, even though I wanted to add a few choice (and inappropriate) and colorful words! ARGH!
There’s already one lawsuit going, what’s wrong with another. BRING IT ON MAN! What Avex did was WRONG AND C-Jes and ZAK did the right thing filing a lawsuit. I can’t wait for what excuses Avex is going to say to defend themselves.
way to go JYJ ^^, i’m proud. They are fighting for a good cause, and i can’t believe how stupid Avex is for causing JYJ to do this. Not only now, it will gather more public attention toward how negative is Avex. Stupid move, stupid management, and this is why they will not last long in the future, i can already forecast that.
I am waiting for this. Great to see some fight back actions in Japan. Now the janpanese fans will know how much JYJ has suffered under Avex. Fighting!!!!
1. “Avex legally has the right to JYJ’s management in Japan. Our response (in blocking the concert) is only just and natural to the actions that violate that right (for us to manage JYJ).”
2. “Currently the reason that JYJ has ceased its activities in Japan is because the lawsuit on the confirmation of the exclusive contract is still maintained in Korea.”
Two blatant lies I spotted.
First,they are obviously not doing a good job managing JYJ if they are blocking the concert from taking place. If they hadn’t blocked the charity concert take place, they could have “leaked” a statement that despite their differences with JYJ, they are “letting” the concert take place because it is for the benefit of the Japanese people who suffered from the earthquake/tsunami. People will look more favorably on AVEX (not that they deserve it) and JYJ will be seen as the benevolent angels they are. Win-win for all! AVEX is just cutting off its nose to spite its face…smh
Secondly, didn’t the Korean court say that the exclusive clause in JYJ’s SM contract was invalid or suspended? That is why they can have non-SM activities now. AVEX’s claim that JYJ’s exclusive contract with SM is preventing them from approving JYJ’s activities in Japan is invalid. Also, did they not know about the exclusive contract when JYJ did the Thanksgiving concert in Tokyo Dome and other Japanese activities last year?
For those saying, “Oh no! not another lawsuit, JYJ!” I feel that it is better for them to file the injunctions against AVEX now than to wait. They are filing against SM in Korea, so why should they let AVEX slide on infractions? If they wait before going after AVEX, the statute of limitations may expire on their right to file an injunction against AVEX. An argument could be that why didn’t they stop or petition against AVEX when the harm was done?
Anyway, this are just my opinions. 🙂
@xiahjunsubias
You have an excellent grasp of the facts, IMO. I agree. AVEX is using circular logic re: first violating SM’s exclusive contract with JYJ when it suited them and now being “contractually unable to” act against it in allowing them to perform at the charity concert. How do they think a court of law is not going to be able to unravel their lies in a second??
Are they really this stupid??
There you go asking the obvious. “Are they really this stupid?” 🙂
Of course they are. I’ve been waiting for the opportunity to make this point, and you just handed it to me, my friend.
AVEX is in the unenviable position of trying to disprove a negative…
YOU.CANNOT.FIX.STUPID.
They are simply too stupid to know this can’t be done. But I’m enjoying watching them trying to do it. *Popcorn and sodas coming up!*
@ButterfliesAreFree
“There you go asking the obvious. ”
LOL! I’ll throw ’em easy… you whack ’em out of the park.
🙂
i understand some point of the fans….. lawsuit? its tiring right? but their fighting for their right as a singer….avex is the one who make this mess in the first place you know why? cause their to greedy….they are afraid of losing artist from sm so they sacrifice JYJ just to please sm.. their the one who break the contract not JYJ…
guys dont give up on them….JYJ they need us to get tru this tough time keep fighting… to tell u the truth i think their happy now than before
only one thing that we fans can do is always SUPPORT every decision that JYJ take and always KEEP FAITH with them coz after this hard road is waiting for JYJ and we as fans…
We believe you JYJ…..
JYJ FIGHTING ….
JYJ FANS all over the world FIGHTING and keep UNITE together …..
I have waited for this day.
Since the charity concert was cancelled, I prayed every day that JYJ will sue. And finally, they proceeded. I’m all for it.
To me, this fight is not just about a charity concert or a contract, it’s about JYJ’s fight for survival, in the country they have called their second home for several years.
If they are suing in their home country, why not also in the country they’d lived in for most of their years as tvxq?
They wouldn’t have taken this on without careful consideration. Another possibly protracted lawsuit will be draining financially, mentally and emotionally but I’m sure JYJ has faith we will be there for the long haul.
It’s not just about their careers. It’s about everything they’re standing for, as all three of them have been saying — the freedom to live the lives they really want. This, to me, is a very basic human right. No man should take this right away from another man. Without it, the social fabric and framework cannot exist.
avex really didnt leave them any choice. jyj fighting!!!
Interesting.. but I have one question.
Is JaeChunSu filing a lawsuit against Avex or is it C-Jes and ZAK Co. filing the lawsuit instead? I’m reading some fans saying it IS the boys themselves but some fans say it’s C-Jes and ZAK Co.
¿Which legal rights?
¿Who has threatened who?
¿Who has been blocking JYJ since the begining?
¿Avex wanted JYJ to perform in Japan as TVXQ?
¿How can it be?
¿Does Avex pretend to reunite the five of them again?
Avex is a synonym of LIES and DIRTY TRICKS.
Since the beginning they have only lied and lied. The truth is they’re blocking JYJ because of their close friendship with SME and because of GREED. They’re the ones who have threatened JYJ. If I remember, finishing January or on early february Jaejoong traveled to Japan. His only lets say “mission” was to talk to a man, I believe from Avex, who was their japanese manager. He wanted to ask him to let JYJ perform in Japan again, but his answer were NO; “MAYBE” IN SIX MONTHS. I remember very well Jaejoong’s deep feelings of frustration and anger. He tweeted his friends about that, and although he tried to communicate the least, I understood immediately what had happened to him there.
¿Threatens? I think the one who CLEARLY has threatened JJ and JYJ is Avex with its MR. Chiba and MR. Maatsura, telling lies elsewhere.
seriously….I’m tired of all this annoyed things…
Just want to say,
I’m still proud to be one part of millions JYJ’s fans. ^_^
we are the greatest fans ever….JYJ must be proud of us…JYJ FAITH FIGHTING!!!!!
what happened to our boys? they didn’t tweet these days… I’m worrying like hell!!!
I should have take law lol tbh i feel more educated.
Im not taking this lightly mind you. I just think that those that choose to be on this side have to bare in mind this fandom is not average or ordinary fandom where you can squeal over OTP, stupid jokes, variety show, etc
This fandom is more than that. At this moment, the hardest part was they will undergo a various legal process which I find necessary. You will understand their stance if you understand the whole conflict that been on since 2009.
Did this tires you? If it does then choose the average Kpop idols for your entertainment. I know everyones worried and all but believe me the boys and the people around them know what is BEST for them. Who are we to judge them? Who are we to criticize them?
They more them anyone else that involve have every knowledge and definitely do all the homework before doing big stuff like this.
I hate to say this, but I annoyed with the whining and shit. JYJ fandom is a tough fandom so SUCKED IT AND DEAL WITH IT.
JYJ you got us on the back. We will support you in this fight. JYJ Ganbatte, JYJ3 Ganbatte.
@9mmleftshinki
“This fandom is more than that. At this moment, the hardest part was they will undergo a various legal process which I find necessary. ”
100% agree with you here. YAAAAY, 9mmleftshinki!
This fandom is The Difference-Maker. We will see you in hell before you triumph over JYJ.
I think we should deliver hell faster to the two d*ckhead in AVEX HQ. I wanna puch ’em so bad.
@lilibaiyu
I agree with you about the various legal process which necessary .tq
You said it girl!!! 🙂
@9mmleftshinki
***I AM BOWING AT THIS MOMENT*** Thank you.
To all those who don’t get it…THIS IS A WAR. In war you fight. JYJ are fighting to exercise their rights as free human being to engage in any and all activities to make a living. A living in which they are trained, skilled and eager to pursue. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING THIS.
Lawsuits are one type of skirmish. Sometimes there are several or however many it takes to accomplish a goal. If they don’t take every avenue open to them to achieve all their goals, they will be wasting their time.
First SME, and now AVEX have laid down the gauntlet by denying JYJ the right to participate on a level playing field. Well, JYJ are now FIGHTING to have that right.
As the fans who JYJ trusted to be there for them, we must take up whatever positions are necessary to provide cover and defense. The reason they have advanced in this war as far as they have is because the fans have taken up the fight with them.
Yes, AVEX and SME are counting on the fans losing interest, energy and faith. My answer to them is BRING IT ON! I’ve said before, I don’t scare that easy and I’m not going anywhere. So, Maxie/Chibie and LSM/KYM you will not get rid of ME that easily.
In reality, neither of you have what it takes to make me lose interest or faith in JYJ and their fight to win this war.
SEE YOU AROUND GUYS 😉
EXCUSE ME….WHY JYJ SHOULD HAVE PERMISSION FROM AVEX REGARDING JYJ ACTIVITIES IN JAPAN?? JYJ UNDER C-JES RIGHT? I’M SO CONFUSS, UNDER WHAT CONDITION THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW AVEX AGREEMENT? PLEASE TELL ME..
JYJ signed a new contract with Avex in spring 2010 (probably in April). Avex suspended JYJ’s Japanese activities in September 2010 but they didn’t terminate the contract, which is why JYJ has been unable to do any activities in Japan since August 2010 (because Avex won’t let them). It’s not clear when JYJ’s contract with Avex expires. Avex claims that they have exclusive rights in Japan to manage JYJ.
However, as others have commented here, since Avex has done nothing since last year to support JYJ — in fact they prevent them from holding any events or performances in Japan — it’s questionable that Avex can still be called “managing” them.
I hope this helps your confusion.
@sakana17
“since Avex has done nothing since last year to support JYJ — in fact they prevent them from holding any events or performances in Japan — it’s questionable that Avex can still be called “managing” them.”
Agreed. This is a key point. This is an important part of the reason why JYJ will prevail in a Japanese court of law. AVEX has completely f**cked themselves by their short-sighted actions with regard to JYJ. Undoubtedly, they were acting at the direction of SM, under pains of losing all SM artists activities in Japan in the future.
They were stuck. JYJ seemed, slightly, the weaker link. OH! How wrong they were! They gambled and lost backing the wrong side.
“Currently the reason that JYJ has ceased its activities in Japan is because the lawsuit on the confirmation of the exclusive contract is still maintained in Korea.” helloooo, avex, have u listened that court have forbidden sme to interfere in any of jyj activies? the lawsuit is abot the ‘exclusive contract’ not about u still have legal right on them. if sme who still (according to sme ofc) have those legal rights, have been forbidden to interfere, how can u, who ur rights only came from sme, to blocked them???
“…Avex can again manage JYJ and also to the aim that they can begin working again as TVXQ in Japan.” yeah, so its clear, that all u care only ‘manage’ jyj again… well i believe as jyj doing so well without, they would also doing well without u, is that what u afraid avex? if they succeeded the charity concert, it mean it would be a stepping stone n a very solid prove that jyj can do well WITHOUT u? that they wont be need u? with their successes right now, imagine how much money will u lost heh? no wonder u still try hard to “..can again manage JYJ.”
“At the same time, JYJ filed for two injunctions in the Tokyo District Court, arguing that: “Avex has engaged in an unjust act in interfering with the concert to aid Japan’s damages from the earthquakes that was to be held on April 5.” At this, Avex has revealed their official position that “to do so was only a just act in order to protect our legal rights”
“only a just act in order protect ur legal rights”, avex? WELL, EXPLAIN THAT TO PEOPLE IN JAPAN WHO DEVASTATED AND IN NEED OF EVERY HELP THEY CAN GET, TO THOSE HUNDRED THOUSANDS VICTIMS OF THE EARTHQUAKE THAT BY NOW LOST 1 OPPURTUNITY OF HELP BECOZ, U (*stab a finger at their chest*) THINK THAT YOUR LEGAL RIGHT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN HELPING THE VICTIMS, YOUR OWN PEOPLE!!!
i’ll support jyj in whatever they do.i beleive they are doing what is right for them and for us,their brave and intelligent fans(who can differentiate what is right and what is wrong.nuff said.
I wonder what in the name jyj do to get all this blocking avex/sm pls give me 10 reason from jyj member do not the others name of company n people you always get them involve/attach in.they just want their freedom not much.jyj always is good news.bad news cos there just want us fans to stress out n stop supporting them.there just manipulating our mind to let fans know how stressful to support jyj.to all jyj fans u r the brave/awesome/intelligent/loving group of fans then really fighting n voice out the right n wrong of people wrong doing.that’s why we r here for jyj as their fans.apology bad eng.
10 reasons honey why they are picking on JYJ only..
1. They are among (if not the most) multi-talented among idols
2. LOTS of TALENT and EXTREMELY GOOD LOOKS = MONEY
3. “Blue Chip” of the industry = MONEY
4. LEGIONS OF FANS (diehard) = MONEY
5. If JYJ is not under SM/AVEX all the MONEY above goes to the 3 and to C-JES which sucks if I were Avex
6. They cannot manipulate the 3 easily as other idols do..
7. The 3 being successful makes their market share smaller due to competition
8. Their success can start a K-POP INDUSTRY REVOLUTION (dethroning big companies domination by smaller companies but with better management system) .. If I am an aspiring artist .. I’ll knock C-JES door instead
9. JYJ are Young, gorgeous and hot (it’s annoying)
10. Pride
God bless you jenknight18 tq
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“10 reasons…why they are picking on JYJ only.”
Yep. That just about covers it.
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CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
I’m adding my name to the chorus!
woho! i just believe in JYJ and their management.. keep fighting till the end and be positive guys!!!
well yeah, avex inconsistencies – i dont even need to read and pinpoint the stuff they are inconsistent about.
lol avex.
it’s funny that they never had any major problems with their artistes before (or so they said) but they have problems with korean artistes now.
it’s either they have been lying about ‘not having major problems’ or they have been mixing with the wrong crowd. either way ROFL
aigoo! Im just worried for them, I dont want them to be stressed out, I remembered they said all of this is so tiring, but then again leaving things alone hoping that they solve miracously or something is just useless as stressful too. Seriously Im pissed at Avex, what the hell is wrong with them, why are they pushing things and being evil with JYJ? They boys are going through enough already, why is it that nobody gives them a break? ARGGGG! Lately I’ve been disliking Avex a lot really, all I can do is support them and pray that our boys find enough comfort in us fans and their families and each other so they keep going.
JYJ HWAITING!! Oppas we love you and support you!
Now that I’ve read everything!!!!! I understand much better and yeah avex is stupid and wolf under a ship skin really, they are as horrible and manipulative as SM, I applaud our boys for suing, they don’t deserve this, I just wish they could separate definitely from avex as well, they don’t need them at all, what kind of management is to keep them hidden and secret as if they didnt even know them? DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!! AVEX DON’T WANT THEM TO PROMOTE AND GAIN MORE FANBASE!that’s soooooo clear, transparent!!!! Im very hopeful the law will be in the right side again (JYJ’s that is)
thank you to all fans for helping me understand better! yeah we need to stay together and fight alongside the boys!!!!
whatever happens, through good times and especially bad times like this, JYJ3 family will always have your back boys..so please be strong and always have faith..
i just know that you will get through this, stronger than before..so AJAH!! Hwaiting JYJ!!
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I pity avex!! They don’t even have humanity in their heart,
Its an aid for japan, charity concert.
Is helping people who needed is a wrong thing?
Huh, avex assh**e
By doing this you show to us who is the LOSER