Because he still loves you, too. Yoochun loves EVERYBODY! Didn’t you see the performance? He said “I love you” to every single one of those dancers, and I believed him! (He’s a very good actor. 😉 )
@Eliza – (having to bite my lip & keep my hands away from the keyboard for this thread) SOOOOO much I want to say…but I’m just gonna send psychic thoughts instead….can you hear the crackle-over-the-airwaves? *`*~**~*~*~~*~~**~~~
@sally_b
Yeah, I can hear you. My reaction to the rest of the thread…*shrug* They don’t like it, I’ll take him and be very willing to share! The man is Casanova reincarnate. 😉
don’t need the half nekked girls going all pole dancing on us. it is distracting and not so sexy to me. i don’t want to see girls cheeks all over while i am watching my guys!
Count me in, Chun don’t need that all wonder women (coz all of them wearing a mask like a zorro) to show us how hot he is.
I bet 90% watcher n fans are girls and women, didn’t he scared he’ll ruin his image???? Ugh i really don’t like it, T____T he really make me cry. He can sing this song with playing his piano, that’s enough to make all his fans faint. Still a lot of show, i hope he can change his performance (i know it wouldn’t). *cross my fingers* i really hope my feeling towards him won’t change T.T
Btw, i know why all that dancers have to wear a zorro mask, coz they afraid they’ll get bricked if they meet Chun’s fans….kekekkkk XP *kidding*
yes… It killed me … I am looking forward to every single piece of news of chun but not this one… Still, i am watching…. LOL
Director Jae,,, Pls stop killing us… Can some fans feedback to jae not to put those chicks near to my chun (and himself as well)????? M sure he will listen to our feedback.. (I heard/read somewhere that Jae accepted the feedback about lighting of the show) correct me if i am wrong…
As much as I love Chun, is there anyone here who doesn’t get the concept for this… at all? My thoughts are kinda in line with the admins. He loves ALL the dancers, apparently XD.
I have no hate at all for any of the dancers (fierce ladies dancing with hot men–> no problems there), but “I Love You” is so heartbreaking and sweet…
All I’m sayin’ is, if you didn’t know the song ahead of time and just saw these pics, you wouldn’t assume he was singing a heartbreaking song to his true love or anything.
I agree the music is so so sexy, but if we know the lyric, it’s really not suit between the dance and the story of this song. May be it means that “okay, that girl leave me and ow, not too worry, still have bunch of sexy girls to entertain me” . It’s that really what this song and drama means? ugh… i really don’t get it =(
i’m pretty sure it’s not that they necessarily went out looking~*~*~ for dancers ‘twice their size’ to dance with. sure those girls are bigger than they are. they’re built ladies, but i fail to see why that’s an issue. are you suggesting that they should have thinner girls in order for it to look better or…?
actually YES!
Don’t get me wrong! I am not jealous. It is all show and I can see that JYJ are doing this to please the American market and taste.
The girls are doing an amazing job (and so is Yuchun ;)). But I work in musical shows myself and proportion is a issue and I find this distracting.
But that is just my own personal view. No aggravation intended! I love the boys to bits and I am just worried that as it does not do their standard justice.
I know what you mean. I don’t mean to discriminate against well built girls but the boys look so skinny next to them.><
People on my twitter TL were saying "I was so 0_0 by the dancers' size I forgot to be jealous!"LOL
Oh well, sexy performances aren't my cup of tea anyway so I'm not reallly a good judge. Hope no one is offended.
ya… I get what u guys mean too… no offence to anyone… But i would prefer to see smaller size gals cuz I find it that the guy should be bigger to make the couple look good.. Even i myself, i dont like a guy who is the same size or smaller than me 😛
well, for chunie’s case ,, i JUST dont want to see any girl around my chun except i , me and myself!!!! *keep on dreaming* LOL
Awww c’mon now girls, don’t tell me you be like some immature fans now… We know we just jealous of them dancers… And yes… that is their profession, to dance… No hatin please… Just sayin’
Peace y’all~ ^___^
I was actually smiling/laughing at the background reactions from the girls watching… They were like “Yoochun, Nooooo~!!! ” “Aigooo…~”
It was really a surprise for us, ne? See? No need to be shy boys… Make the show HAWT, we LOVE it like that~!!!! (We just become a little jealous… heheheh)
*Speechless*
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I’m going to be shocked till the end of my life… … …
Isn’t THIS too porn? I can’t imagine what would happen if this was perfomed in Asia… ¬_¬ Although they still can see the photos, I wonder what do they think of THIS.
*sigh* The photos are already too much for me, should I watch the fancam? TT__TT
Director Kim was just considering the audience that they have. They wouldn’t do this when they get back to Korea, I’m assuming…
It’s just that y’know, the general perception of Asians (us… LOL) is that people from the West are more liberated and such, so they can appreciate this type of performance more than their usual Asian fans… you get what I mean… ^___^
But still we, Asian, can watch his fancams and pics.
I try to become a grown up fans but still i don’t get it, why he has to do something like that? Coz we all know he has a strong sex appeal even he’s not doing anything. Ugh…. Chunn-ah…..
They’re testing things… As I said, it might be because of that perception about westerners, but that is just an assumption. Don’t worry yourself over it… you’ll grow wrinkles pretty fast, and I know you don’t want that, hahahah
I know, when I first saw chunnie with dancers in “I love you” I was shocked…looks like it’s not just me
Isn’t this kind of inappropriate? Am I wrong for thinking that way? : (
I would just like to say, I’m “western” and not Asian at all, but I don’t know if I’d be as excited for this performance. I mean, of course I’ll be excited for anything with JYJ, but I don’t like things this risque, especially if I don’t think it fits with the theme of the song.
And I don’t think that just because you can do something necessarily means you should do it…
It’s not a matter of being jealous of the dancers (I will probably never meet JYJ in my life, so who cares…), it’s just a matter of not liking to watch things like this… and planning to go to concerts with my mom XD.
*hugs Nandar* I’m not watching the fancam this time. If the Asian Tour I Love You performance already killed me… I’m sure I won’t be able to handle THIS. But, on the other hand, I want to watch it cuz it’s Chunnie~~
Speaking of hate, don’t know why I just can’t hate on these dancers. Maybe because Telisha is a sweetie?
Just a curious question… How many in here are like 21 yrs old? I just felt like asking, coz this post is getting some really cute teen-lilke reactions that I can’t help but think we’ve got really young people here, hence the “I don’t get it…” “I don’t like the girls…” Oppa… No~!!!” reactions… Heheheh…
Just a random thought, nothing harmful intended… ^__________^
guess, they are still busy crying because of the chun-with-dancers.. LOL.. since i am so free after, exam, why not i take ur question.. 😛
Well, to ur question i am not sure how old most of them are (but my intuition says some might be quite young, not because of the study of the comments here.. But cuz of the overall comments they made..)
But sure i am chun noona… But i am also crying out loud cuz of this issue… 😛 *blush* If i can give a feedback, i will surely give Director jae not to do such sexy performances.. But well, i dont expect him to take my opinion seriously.. Cuz there are millions of fans and they all might have diff wishes.. So i am sure he might not be able to fulfill my wish.. 🙂 but it is my duty to feedback what i want, so that at least they know what some of us wants, right??
I guess for me, it is not because i am a teenage so cant accept this type of “small things” .. It is because of my personality, i guess.. Another reason is culture.. As u know there are cultural differences between asians and non asians (might be Caucasian or others)… In fact if u zoom into those differences, those are not simply differences… They are opposite cultures… This culture surely influence how the person looks at things..
Eg. for this chun-case, Most of Caucasian or mordern asians (who are highly influenced by european culture) will see this as sexy performance.. But (pure/ traditional) asians might see this as a very improper one (worst case, some might think “such a disgrace to asians”) … *sigh* who is right or wrong???
Dont forget that Europeans think themselves as open/ broad minded while asians see them as wild human beings… Asians think that they are very tame, polite and humble ppl but for Caucasians , they are narrow-minded and conservative ppl who are walking back to the ancient time…. Who is right or wrong??? well, it all depends on individual right???
Honestly, I personally feel sad that some asians are highly influenced by european culture but europeans are not… Regardless of Asian or Caucasian , i (personally) think we should keep our own culture and proudly show the world who we are and this is the lovely thing about everyone of us.. I mean , tradition and culture is the most beautiful and lovely thing of a country, right?? we should keep it even in this modern world, right?? The word modern refers to the “newest and most developed technology” but not the culture right?? I am an Engineer who is contributing to develop latest and most modern technology but i m an Asian who loves asian culture and who wishes to travel around the world to experience the beauty of different cultures.. I personally feel that there shouldnt be any tradeoffs for modern world with the very own culture… 🙂
OOpss… off topic .. haahaaa… i love Jap and Korea so much due to their culture.. Altho there are modern buildings and latest technology, the people still are giving a bow to the other and respect the senior citizens (thats what i see in the dramas, not sure if it is true) LOL
@Nandar
I really like your cultural speech here. 😀 I share the same point of view.
I’m a case of those asians who didn’t like this performance. I can’t say that I cannot accept it, because I’m living in Europe and I’m used of these things, still I’ve got a strong influence of my roots and I don’t like to see these kind of “inappropriate” things.
I feel kinda disappointed… duuno.
Really liked your post Nandar. For me…..I don’t like watching performances that are this naughty. I can still watch JJ’s Still in Love though cause it is not that naughty. I have been raised up in the west but I still can’t watch kissing in a movie….I have to look away. While growing up I hated the Jewish movies they showed us…..the history was sad yes…….but I don’t like having naked or almost naked people shoved at me…..it’s horrifying to me O____O
I really dislike Renaissance art too because most of it was of naked men or women TT____TT
If I had sons one day and I found out they were watching porn I would probably chuck out all the technology in our house…..like literally.
I also don’t like people swearing and don’t respect it.
And I grew up in Canada….still live in Canada……..but some things are just not bearable to me…..
And I am 22 years old.
BUT for artists…….(even if I personally cannot watch the performance) I think they should have this kind of level for some of their performances. I hope they keep their MV’s PG still. I am especially happy every time JJ is paired with a girl for a performance because I want Yunjae to die. They can still have their friendship of course….but every way this paring is linked sexually needs to DIE.
I preferred the girls in their Azn showcases to the girls in their American ones.
..i don´t like that performance, too! and i´m no asian. i´m from germany/europe ;).
it´s strange to see the guys act like that. it´s really to much (my opinon). the girls try their best but i can´t say it´s sexy – it´s just acting. and like some of you said.. give yoochun an piano and let him sing to us. that´s all i/we need. love him :).
Hi everyone, first post here 🙂
Just wanna say that his singing is so good here and I really love this song.
I try to imagine him alone on the stage by the way 🙂
Yes, this is greesey lol… what the hell am i saying to my hubby???? ok, got to cool down.. I love my hubby but not the performance… Feedback to chun and jae!!
… disgusting ! I love JYJ so much but something inside me wish that they didn’t split !
they seems like they want to be noticed in the U.S so much !
plus they have so many young fans ,even if Im adult I don’t want to see this its just like a strip club , they are making it for all age’s as if its normal thing !!!!!!
glad its not Junsu
i know how u feel… But they dont have a choice , do they?? US might be the only target they can set.. StupidMen block here and there so they cant even freely work in their country and Japan.. So they have to target US for sure.. Larger market right??? (@_@) All becuase of those StupidMen!!!!!
What has them dancing with girls got to do with them splitting or not? And disgusting is too strong of a word to use!
It is a performance and they do it really well. I don’t think they are trying too hard. They had females for their Asian concerts too if you didn’t remember?!!!!
They want to become artists and break out from the idol mold. If you are uncomfortable enough to call them ‘disgusting’ or ‘trying to hard’ then you can go ahead and fangirl a different Kpop group or you can become a fangirl of Justin Bieber or a Disney level singer. Even JayPark had a showy girl in his MV recently.
Everyone’s responds are interesting, from enjoying…accepting…to disgusting. I agree one said earlier JYJ are testing the water in USA and this wild performance is more than acceptable rate here. If you watched the video, you see the interactive moves are fast and just create sexual moments and drive fans crazy but not that extent showing as in the pictures which had forever captured that moment. So all the fan just relax and enjoy…Yah.
i agree with you when i wacth the fancam…very fast and that its…but feel litte different colors in the boys concert; cied, laugh, sad, fun,excite, sexy cute,enjoy, beautifull, meanfull, love..some thing else?? all kind of emotion up and down…I really wish one day my turn to wacth them sing live with my own eyes.
I am so mad/jealouse because what if it was my LOVER Jaejoong. It’s so that what if Jaejoong made that performance or he would think doing it in the future, my heart would break. If I’m like this by seeing how they touch Yuchun, it’s just I have so much respect for them.
I know I’m wrong in a way to react like this, but I think it went overbore with the hole performance of Yuchun-nim theres sexiness in different ways. Would like it a bite different please.
I am thankful to the dancers of there hardwork and support to our boys, but would love to have a different performance.
Please don’t take it in a wrong way, it’s just what I think.
Ok, here’s the point, and i’m seriously don’t get it. I love Yuchun, and I care about him a lot, although my bias is Jae. But seriously… WTF? They really don’t get it? That the reason why many people around the world are listening and into Asian music, esp k-pop it’s because they have sexy concept, but there’s always bound. And why now American culture doesn’t attract me, it’s because there’s too much sex concept with no bounds. And they’re doing this… They really shouldn’t. They should stay themselves, doing what they want, because they actually have opportunity to.
I don’t know who the f*ck is in charge for this show(Because I think JJ is not responsible for choreography), but I don’t like it. And I hadn’t even thought that they made YC to do it. They were TVXQ, it’s stupid to deny and forget their history, and TVXQ were Gods of the East, the f*cking kings of pop-music in Asia, and TVXQ5 never lowered themselves to this kinda level. They separated, and they are great now as JYJ. But, guys, don’t forget who you are, and you don’t need this things to get popularity.
@Milana – I’m breaking my promise to myself to stay away from this thread…but I feel I must respond to your post.
1) “I don’t know who the f*ck is in charge for this show(Because I think JJ is not responsible for choreography), but I don’t like it.”
You are certainly entitled…to NOT like it, but I think you are profoundly mistaken that JJ was not responsible for the choreo. He personally said in the PR interveiw that they had chosen to add 6 girls to the dance crew to UP the sexiness. In addition, they would have had NUMEROUS practices before presenting this on stage – the guys are *perfectionists* – we all know this.
Also, they are NOT under contract to any management agency who could dictate what they DO or DON’T do – thus…..the choreo & costumes as presented, were conceived, practiced and presented by JYJ of their own free will …and logic would indicate that they are the VERY ONES who defined what that would be.
2) “They were TVXQ, it’s stupid to deny and forget their history, and TVXQ were Gods of the East, the f*cking kings of pop-music in Asia, and TVXQ5 never lowered themselves to this kinda level.”
WERE…is the key word here. They are now JYJ.
They have not *lowered themselves* to return to being Idols – they are NOW adults – and present themselves as artists.
Further, TVXQ/DBSK videos exist (in the hundreds) that completely disprove your point —–► variety shows making them do the most ludicrous ‘dancing monkey’ acts, costumes that would stand out in a gay-pride parade and on-stage yaoi-fan-service that makes me cringe (and I’m very liberal). TVXQ had spent years(!) lowering themselves to whatever was demanded of them under contract with SM.
3) “They separated, and they are great now as JYJ. But, guys, don’t forget who you are, and you don’t need this things to get popularity.”
They are more than separated…in effect, they are dis-banded. HoMin has signed another 10 year contract with SM – so it’s done.
Rather than presuming that JYJ are presenting adult sexiness to gain popularity – one might recognize that they are now unchained to be exactly the kind of artists they want to be – and just like they were willing to go be farmers if SM was able to totally crush them – they might also be willing to lose underage or morally-disapproving fans in their journey to be FREE Men.
I’m not responding to start a war with you – I acknowledge that your opinion is as valid as my own – however, when the words *lowering onesself* comes into play – that is extremely subjective and I felt the need to point it out. peace.
Thanks…I saw yours above…well written. We may not see eye to eye on ‘nudity’ issues…(btw, I have a FineArts degree and have done MANY nude figure drawings…from classes and otherwise) ….LOL…..but I do see how others feel based on their own life experience and cultural/religious aspects.
All of which is what makes our world so wonderfully diverse. It’s just when some choose to spout-off without going through a rational thought process…well….I kinda get itchy about that. It’s all good. (hugs you) 🙂
WOAH! now thats the money shot! i hope this doesnt explode all over the kmeadia. b/c the last thing i want is this picture on some sort of news, with netziens comments like, “disgusting, etc.” being quoted, this just makes our own fandom look bad so lets be careful now shall we. dont stop voicing your op, but just find a more courteous way to describe it.
MO: these are grown men which means they can express themselves or do whatever they want to excite their fans. im sure if we were all there in person then we would all be screaming non-stop. theyre pretty much acting in a form of dancing :S jyj had always been innocent classy men, i understand this is a major shocker, but comon live a little, just respect it for what it is.
memmm..this is too much…i feel the boys live under thousand of mother inlaw..the first concert i know jyj was Showcase and alot fans sad they should have… blabla otherwise they look gays blablallb..and now what ?? just few second in concert with over sexy dancing they got bash like crazy like they go to bed with some one.
” they make them lower??? NO..idont care before with some one, they are god or not ..but with me they are 26 year old MEN with all their soul and heart…they are not a boys in site crystall box… maybe they got mistate, maybe they can not see all thing because they are young … but they work really hard to pay back all your love: sick, not enoght sleep..try to deserve what you call* GOD*..they ready said they have too becarefull every little thing because may make them coslap..i feel it right now!! with me chunnie, JJ, Junsu can not became * God* like some one want…but they are excellent perrsons. men..work hard, care, love, sexy, talent, responbility…i wish to see in my life!!!!!!cheeeeeeeeeeee
@Anva – “i feel the boys live under thousand of mother inlaw”
LoL…that was an awesome statement! (hugs you) *(ᵔᴥᵔ)*
“… JJ, Junsu can not became * God* like some one want…but they are excellent perrsons. men..work hard, care, love, sexy, talent, responbility”
…that’s exactly the thing! TVXQ/DBSK/Tohoshinki are Idol groups. Manufactured and Boxed by SM & Avex – just like all their other groups – and I won’t deny that I deeply appreciate that JYJ has had a *past* which enabled them to have the *present*….only the guys can know the pain & burdens they’ve had to carry to get to this time of Freedom.
however….I find it disrespectful to expect them to continue to deliver the same “glossy Idol, god-like perfection” that is part of the Korean Entertainment business. Idols live absolutely suffocating lives! JYJ have repeatedly said so….and a few other brave ex-idols say the SAME thing. It’s not rocket-science…being an Idol is FAKE.
For those who want ‘more of the same thing’ – TVXQ2 has signed on for another 10 years, plus SM has a FULL shelf of ‘boxed idols’ to purchase – you may be certain that they will be churning out *safe* performances for all those who find adult hetero-sexuality disturbing. cheers!
@Anva and @Sally_b, I share your thoughts. 100% agree with you. JYJ boys are grown up men. They can handle such performance with dignity and professionalism.
So, this is what Jaejoong meant when he said “a sexiest performance”, ¿eh?
He likes Lady Gaga + western girls are free minded.
This is a very sexual performance. Chunnie handled it very professionally.
¿Can we?
Usually I would be…rolling my eyes at this kind of performance and looking for the sexist issues involved. It caught me by surprise that I wasn’t for this performance and I’ve figured out why. These guys have had experiences that most other men haven’t — they know what it’s like to be looked at as sexual objects. These guys have spent the majority of their careers being dehumanized by both their management company and their fans. They have been made into vessels for girls to pour their adolescent fantasies with no regard to who they are and what they want. It’s only been in the past couple of years that their wants have been recognized, that they have started to regain their humanity.
Because of this, I don’t have the same reaction re: gender issues that I would with most other men. When I see Yoochun moving down that line of dancers, I know that he isn’t seeing six female bodies for his amusement, he’s seeing six desirable people who desire him back (as the second part of the choreography shows). With Jaejoong’s, his dancers are stripping him, trying to get him to do something that he seems reluctant to do, which is why he ends up by himself at the end.
These guys know the power of the sexual image, they’ve been that image since they were teenagers. Everyone who is not looking beyond the quick sweep of an arm between legs (which I still haven’t seen in the fan cams, BTW. Yoochun is too distracting!!) is doing them a great disservice.
oh god
¡OH MY GOD! ¡MICKY YOOCHUNNIE! ¡WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!
O_O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So friggin HOT!!! I am melting.. hmmmm
@Doublejaedee, I’m feeling just like you; HOOOOOT!!!
lots of fan girls couldn’t sleep after this concert…..after this song….
😦
YC ,YOU BROKE OUR HEARTS
😦
Why We Still Love You?
🙂
Because he still loves you, too. Yoochun loves EVERYBODY! Didn’t you see the performance? He said “I love you” to every single one of those dancers, and I believed him! (He’s a very good actor. 😉 )
but stilll…….
🙂
😦
🙂
and I’m gonna see him on May 27…
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@Eliza – (having to bite my lip & keep my hands away from the keyboard for this thread) SOOOOO much I want to say…but I’m just gonna send psychic thoughts instead….can you hear the crackle-over-the-airwaves? *`*~**~*~*~~*~~**~~~
@sally_b
Yeah, I can hear you. My reaction to the rest of the thread…*shrug* They don’t like it, I’ll take him and be very willing to share! The man is Casanova reincarnate. 😉
@Eliza, ¡INDEED HE IS! ¡NO DOUBT!
don’t need the half nekked girls going all pole dancing on us. it is distracting and not so sexy to me. i don’t want to see girls cheeks all over while i am watching my guys!
totally agree with you..
Count me in, Chun don’t need that all wonder women (coz all of them wearing a mask like a zorro) to show us how hot he is.
I bet 90% watcher n fans are girls and women, didn’t he scared he’ll ruin his image???? Ugh i really don’t like it, T____T he really make me cry. He can sing this song with playing his piano, that’s enough to make all his fans faint. Still a lot of show, i hope he can change his performance (i know it wouldn’t). *cross my fingers* i really hope my feeling towards him won’t change T.T
Btw, i know why all that dancers have to wear a zorro mask, coz they afraid they’ll get bricked if they meet Chun’s fans….kekekkkk XP *kidding*
yes… It killed me … I am looking forward to every single piece of news of chun but not this one… Still, i am watching…. LOL
Director Jae,,, Pls stop killing us… Can some fans feedback to jae not to put those chicks near to my chun (and himself as well)????? M sure he will listen to our feedback.. (I heard/read somewhere that Jae accepted the feedback about lighting of the show) correct me if i am wrong…
can u guys do it???? Please!!!!
despite everything you done to us, i still love you yc ! 😉
but don’t be naughty again ok? tell those girls to wear some short or smth -__-
oh god….poor yuchun,,,,bad girl get out.
“Yoochun Solo “I love you All” *joking*”
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ADMIN GOT JOKES
love it.
PimpChun fulll throttle!
^_^
That was the point of the performance, though. Given the nature of the song the irony was delicious. I loved it!
You Know! Grow up kitties’!
LOVE YUCHUN SO MUCH!!!
I love u even more cuz of ur name!!! damn cool!!!
aaaaaagh….. chunnie, don’t be that naughty………..can’t stand the girls…… lay off your hands from my chunnie!
As much as I love Chun, is there anyone here who doesn’t get the concept for this… at all? My thoughts are kinda in line with the admins. He loves ALL the dancers, apparently XD.
I have no hate at all for any of the dancers (fierce ladies dancing with hot men–> no problems there), but “I Love You” is so heartbreaking and sweet…
All I’m sayin’ is, if you didn’t know the song ahead of time and just saw these pics, you wouldn’t assume he was singing a heartbreaking song to his true love or anything.
Hope no one takes this the wrong way >.<.
I feel the same. I can’t figure out how YC dancing with a bunch of half naked girls goes with the lyrics of this song.
I agree the music is so so sexy, but if we know the lyric, it’s really not suit between the dance and the story of this song. May be it means that “okay, that girl leave me and ow, not too worry, still have bunch of sexy girls to entertain me” . It’s that really what this song and drama means? ugh… i really don’t get it =(
yes,, protest against sexy chicks around chunie…
LOL joking… Yes, the song is about begging the girl to come back but the theme is like he is a player… LOL
our poor boy has been mistaken as a player (Song jong ki?? 😛 ) tho he is not…
Just have to say, this is why I love JYJ fans. You can offer criticism about something and not get bashed ^^.
Discussions- what a concept~.
i hate the dancer..get off ur hand from my chunnie
>___<
Watching Chunnie like this reminds me of this song…
O-M-G that dance even has her forearm over Chunnie’s you-know-what…lol
¡She had her arm on the danger zone!
For me the dancer looked bigger than Chunnie LOL..Chunnie is so slim..
Anyway, take ur hands off from Chunnie’s body pleaseeeee..
This reminds me of why I turned to Asian music and away from American music.
I don’t find this sexy at all plus it looks out of porpotion. Why do they always choose female dancers twice their size?
i think so…. i know they are grown up now but i want to see and listen the boys… not some naked girls…
i’m pretty sure it’s not that they necessarily went out looking~*~*~ for dancers ‘twice their size’ to dance with. sure those girls are bigger than they are. they’re built ladies, but i fail to see why that’s an issue. are you suggesting that they should have thinner girls in order for it to look better or…?
actually YES!
Don’t get me wrong! I am not jealous. It is all show and I can see that JYJ are doing this to please the American market and taste.
The girls are doing an amazing job (and so is Yuchun ;)). But I work in musical shows myself and proportion is a issue and I find this distracting.
But that is just my own personal view. No aggravation intended! I love the boys to bits and I am just worried that as it does not do their standard justice.
I know what you mean. I don’t mean to discriminate against well built girls but the boys look so skinny next to them.><
People on my twitter TL were saying "I was so 0_0 by the dancers' size I forgot to be jealous!"LOL
Oh well, sexy performances aren't my cup of tea anyway so I'm not reallly a good judge. Hope no one is offended.
ya… I get what u guys mean too… no offence to anyone… But i would prefer to see smaller size gals cuz I find it that the guy should be bigger to make the couple look good.. Even i myself, i dont like a guy who is the same size or smaller than me 😛
well, for chunie’s case ,, i JUST dont want to see any girl around my chun except i , me and myself!!!! *keep on dreaming* LOL
Hands off from chunnie’s crotch!! TT
Awww c’mon now girls, don’t tell me you be like some immature fans now… We know we just jealous of them dancers… And yes… that is their profession, to dance… No hatin please… Just sayin’
Peace y’all~ ^___^
if i was a good enough dancer…. HECK YES i would sign up for this gig… 😉
If I had professional dance training I would be soooo applying to be JYJ’s dancer… Yeah… I can do those “sexy” moves misself… hahahha
I was actually smiling/laughing at the background reactions from the girls watching… They were like “Yoochun, Nooooo~!!! ” “Aigooo…~”
It was really a surprise for us, ne? See? No need to be shy boys… Make the show HAWT, we LOVE it like that~!!!! (We just become a little jealous… heheheh)
OMG!!!!!!
*Speechless*
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I’m going to be shocked till the end of my life… … …
Isn’t THIS too porn? I can’t imagine what would happen if this was perfomed in Asia… ¬_¬ Although they still can see the photos, I wonder what do they think of THIS.
*sigh* The photos are already too much for me, should I watch the fancam? TT__TT
Director Kim was just considering the audience that they have. They wouldn’t do this when they get back to Korea, I’m assuming…
It’s just that y’know, the general perception of Asians (us… LOL) is that people from the West are more liberated and such, so they can appreciate this type of performance more than their usual Asian fans… you get what I mean… ^___^
yes it’s true coz if it’s in Asian you know how fans get react
and maybe those dancer will get more freakin’ experience in their own life
But still we, Asian, can watch his fancams and pics.
I try to become a grown up fans but still i don’t get it, why he has to do something like that? Coz we all know he has a strong sex appeal even he’s not doing anything. Ugh…. Chunn-ah…..
They’re testing things… As I said, it might be because of that perception about westerners, but that is just an assumption. Don’t worry yourself over it… you’ll grow wrinkles pretty fast, and I know you don’t want that, hahahah
I know, when I first saw chunnie with dancers in “I love you” I was shocked…looks like it’s not just me
Isn’t this kind of inappropriate? Am I wrong for thinking that way? : (
I would just like to say, I’m “western” and not Asian at all, but I don’t know if I’d be as excited for this performance. I mean, of course I’ll be excited for anything with JYJ, but I don’t like things this risque, especially if I don’t think it fits with the theme of the song.
And I don’t think that just because you can do something necessarily means you should do it…
It’s not a matter of being jealous of the dancers (I will probably never meet JYJ in my life, so who cares…), it’s just a matter of not liking to watch things like this… and planning to go to concerts with my mom XD.
Can i suggest?? If u r that type who will be very sad to see the video with chunie and girls, PLEASE DONT!!!
I watched one, but not more than that… I cant take it…
I dont hate anyone, but i just feel like crying… *crying again*
*hugs Nandar* I’m not watching the fancam this time. If the Asian Tour I Love You performance already killed me… I’m sure I won’t be able to handle THIS. But, on the other hand, I want to watch it cuz it’s Chunnie~~
Speaking of hate, don’t know why I just can’t hate on these dancers. Maybe because Telisha is a sweetie?
need other fans project….by some clothes for that girls..poor them they are not enogh…hmmm my chunnie!!!!
Just a curious question… How many in here are like 21 yrs old? I just felt like asking, coz this post is getting some really cute teen-lilke reactions that I can’t help but think we’ve got really young people here, hence the “I don’t get it…” “I don’t like the girls…” Oppa… No~!!!” reactions… Heheheh…
Just a random thought, nothing harmful intended… ^__________^
I meant LESS THAN 21 years old… hahahaha… I’m damned sleepy~!!!
ahaha I thought the exact same thing XD
here I’m all like , ” damn!” and everyone is all like , ” oppaa~~”
it’s funny and cute XD
or maybe I’m just a sketch XDD
guess, they are still busy crying because of the chun-with-dancers.. LOL.. since i am so free after, exam, why not i take ur question.. 😛
Well, to ur question i am not sure how old most of them are (but my intuition says some might be quite young, not because of the study of the comments here.. But cuz of the overall comments they made..)
But sure i am chun noona… But i am also crying out loud cuz of this issue… 😛 *blush* If i can give a feedback, i will surely give Director jae not to do such sexy performances.. But well, i dont expect him to take my opinion seriously.. Cuz there are millions of fans and they all might have diff wishes.. So i am sure he might not be able to fulfill my wish.. 🙂 but it is my duty to feedback what i want, so that at least they know what some of us wants, right??
I guess for me, it is not because i am a teenage so cant accept this type of “small things” .. It is because of my personality, i guess.. Another reason is culture.. As u know there are cultural differences between asians and non asians (might be Caucasian or others)… In fact if u zoom into those differences, those are not simply differences… They are opposite cultures… This culture surely influence how the person looks at things..
Eg. for this chun-case, Most of Caucasian or mordern asians (who are highly influenced by european culture) will see this as sexy performance.. But (pure/ traditional) asians might see this as a very improper one (worst case, some might think “such a disgrace to asians”) … *sigh* who is right or wrong???
Dont forget that Europeans think themselves as open/ broad minded while asians see them as wild human beings… Asians think that they are very tame, polite and humble ppl but for Caucasians , they are narrow-minded and conservative ppl who are walking back to the ancient time…. Who is right or wrong??? well, it all depends on individual right???
Honestly, I personally feel sad that some asians are highly influenced by european culture but europeans are not… Regardless of Asian or Caucasian , i (personally) think we should keep our own culture and proudly show the world who we are and this is the lovely thing about everyone of us.. I mean , tradition and culture is the most beautiful and lovely thing of a country, right?? we should keep it even in this modern world, right?? The word modern refers to the “newest and most developed technology” but not the culture right?? I am an Engineer who is contributing to develop latest and most modern technology but i m an Asian who loves asian culture and who wishes to travel around the world to experience the beauty of different cultures.. I personally feel that there shouldnt be any tradeoffs for modern world with the very own culture… 🙂
OOpss… off topic .. haahaaa… i love Jap and Korea so much due to their culture.. Altho there are modern buildings and latest technology, the people still are giving a bow to the other and respect the senior citizens (thats what i see in the dramas, not sure if it is true) LOL
Hope this clarify the doubts u guys have..
@Nandar
I really like your cultural speech here. 😀 I share the same point of view.
I’m a case of those asians who didn’t like this performance. I can’t say that I cannot accept it, because I’m living in Europe and I’m used of these things, still I’ve got a strong influence of my roots and I don’t like to see these kind of “inappropriate” things.
I feel kinda disappointed… duuno.
Really liked your post Nandar. For me…..I don’t like watching performances that are this naughty. I can still watch JJ’s Still in Love though cause it is not that naughty. I have been raised up in the west but I still can’t watch kissing in a movie….I have to look away. While growing up I hated the Jewish movies they showed us…..the history was sad yes…….but I don’t like having naked or almost naked people shoved at me…..it’s horrifying to me O____O
I really dislike Renaissance art too because most of it was of naked men or women TT____TT
If I had sons one day and I found out they were watching porn I would probably chuck out all the technology in our house…..like literally.
I also don’t like people swearing and don’t respect it.
And I grew up in Canada….still live in Canada……..but some things are just not bearable to me…..
And I am 22 years old.
BUT for artists…….(even if I personally cannot watch the performance) I think they should have this kind of level for some of their performances. I hope they keep their MV’s PG still. I am especially happy every time JJ is paired with a girl for a performance because I want Yunjae to die. They can still have their friendship of course….but every way this paring is linked sexually needs to DIE.
I preferred the girls in their Azn showcases to the girls in their American ones.
i think that dancer too over….i think cunnie dont like it,because i find cunnie little strange (he looking down)after that.
OMG ! ! !
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what is the hell ?
yoochun Please .. go back to the piano
to the beautiful romance
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..i don´t like that performance, too! and i´m no asian. i´m from germany/europe ;).
it´s strange to see the guys act like that. it´s really to much (my opinon). the girls try their best but i can´t say it´s sexy – it´s just acting. and like some of you said.. give yoochun an piano and let him sing to us. that´s all i/we need. love him :).
yes , yes
I miss him so much with piano
I agree too~. From a non-Asian who’s not a teenager, haha.
I just want to enjoy the music without feeling… awkward…
i love this german girl!!!! ❤
dancer, you find a problem with the Cassiopeia from around the world 🙂
Hi everyone, first post here 🙂
Just wanna say that his singing is so good here and I really love this song.
I try to imagine him alone on the stage by the way 🙂
welcome..
Yes, this is greesey lol… what the hell am i saying to my hubby???? ok, got to cool down.. I love my hubby but not the performance… Feedback to chun and jae!!
… disgusting ! I love JYJ so much but something inside me wish that they didn’t split !
they seems like they want to be noticed in the U.S so much !
plus they have so many young fans ,even if Im adult I don’t want to see this its just like a strip club , they are making it for all age’s as if its normal thing !!!!!!
glad its not Junsu
i know how u feel… But they dont have a choice , do they?? US might be the only target they can set.. StupidMen block here and there so they cant even freely work in their country and Japan.. So they have to target US for sure.. Larger market right??? (@_@) All becuase of those StupidMen!!!!!
What has them dancing with girls got to do with them splitting or not? And disgusting is too strong of a word to use!
It is a performance and they do it really well. I don’t think they are trying too hard. They had females for their Asian concerts too if you didn’t remember?!!!!
They want to become artists and break out from the idol mold. If you are uncomfortable enough to call them ‘disgusting’ or ‘trying to hard’ then you can go ahead and fangirl a different Kpop group or you can become a fangirl of Justin Bieber or a Disney level singer. Even JayPark had a showy girl in his MV recently.
Everyone’s responds are interesting, from enjoying…accepting…to disgusting. I agree one said earlier JYJ are testing the water in USA and this wild performance is more than acceptable rate here. If you watched the video, you see the interactive moves are fast and just create sexual moments and drive fans crazy but not that extent showing as in the pictures which had forever captured that moment. So all the fan just relax and enjoy…Yah.
i agree with you when i wacth the fancam…very fast and that its…but feel litte different colors in the boys concert; cied, laugh, sad, fun,excite, sexy cute,enjoy, beautifull, meanfull, love..some thing else?? all kind of emotion up and down…I really wish one day my turn to wacth them sing live with my own eyes.
I am so mad/jealouse because what if it was my LOVER Jaejoong. It’s so that what if Jaejoong made that performance or he would think doing it in the future, my heart would break. If I’m like this by seeing how they touch Yuchun, it’s just I have so much respect for them.
I know I’m wrong in a way to react like this, but I think it went overbore with the hole performance of Yuchun-nim theres sexiness in different ways. Would like it a bite different please.
I am thankful to the dancers of there hardwork and support to our boys, but would love to have a different performance.
Please don’t take it in a wrong way, it’s just what I think.
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my heart…broke… 😦
Kanu… *picks the broken pieces of your heart and hugs you*
Ok, here’s the point, and i’m seriously don’t get it. I love Yuchun, and I care about him a lot, although my bias is Jae. But seriously… WTF? They really don’t get it? That the reason why many people around the world are listening and into Asian music, esp k-pop it’s because they have sexy concept, but there’s always bound. And why now American culture doesn’t attract me, it’s because there’s too much sex concept with no bounds. And they’re doing this… They really shouldn’t. They should stay themselves, doing what they want, because they actually have opportunity to.
I don’t know who the f*ck is in charge for this show(Because I think JJ is not responsible for choreography), but I don’t like it. And I hadn’t even thought that they made YC to do it. They were TVXQ, it’s stupid to deny and forget their history, and TVXQ were Gods of the East, the f*cking kings of pop-music in Asia, and TVXQ5 never lowered themselves to this kinda level. They separated, and they are great now as JYJ. But, guys, don’t forget who you are, and you don’t need this things to get popularity.
I’m sorry, but I just had to say that 😀
@Milana – I’m breaking my promise to myself to stay away from this thread…but I feel I must respond to your post.
1) “I don’t know who the f*ck is in charge for this show(Because I think JJ is not responsible for choreography), but I don’t like it.”
You are certainly entitled…to NOT like it, but I think you are profoundly mistaken that JJ was not responsible for the choreo. He personally said in the PR interveiw that they had chosen to add 6 girls to the dance crew to UP the sexiness. In addition, they would have had NUMEROUS practices before presenting this on stage – the guys are *perfectionists* – we all know this.
Also, they are NOT under contract to any management agency who could dictate what they DO or DON’T do – thus…..the choreo & costumes as presented, were conceived, practiced and presented by JYJ of their own free will …and logic would indicate that they are the VERY ONES who defined what that would be.
2) “They were TVXQ, it’s stupid to deny and forget their history, and TVXQ were Gods of the East, the f*cking kings of pop-music in Asia, and TVXQ5 never lowered themselves to this kinda level.”
WERE…is the key word here. They are now JYJ.
They have not *lowered themselves* to return to being Idols – they are NOW adults – and present themselves as artists.
Further, TVXQ/DBSK videos exist (in the hundreds) that completely disprove your point —–► variety shows making them do the most ludicrous ‘dancing monkey’ acts, costumes that would stand out in a gay-pride parade and on-stage yaoi-fan-service that makes me cringe (and I’m very liberal). TVXQ had spent years(!) lowering themselves to whatever was demanded of them under contract with SM.
3) “They separated, and they are great now as JYJ. But, guys, don’t forget who you are, and you don’t need this things to get popularity.”
They are more than separated…in effect, they are dis-banded. HoMin has signed another 10 year contract with SM – so it’s done.
Rather than presuming that JYJ are presenting adult sexiness to gain popularity – one might recognize that they are now unchained to be exactly the kind of artists they want to be – and just like they were willing to go be farmers if SM was able to totally crush them – they might also be willing to lose underage or morally-disapproving fans in their journey to be FREE Men.
I’m not responding to start a war with you – I acknowledge that your opinion is as valid as my own – however, when the words *lowering onesself* comes into play – that is extremely subjective and I felt the need to point it out. peace.
loved your post Sally
Thanks…I saw yours above…well written. We may not see eye to eye on ‘nudity’ issues…(btw, I have a FineArts degree and have done MANY nude figure drawings…from classes and otherwise) ….LOL…..but I do see how others feel based on their own life experience and cultural/religious aspects.
All of which is what makes our world so wonderfully diverse. It’s just when some choose to spout-off without going through a rational thought process…well….I kinda get itchy about that. It’s all good. (hugs you) 🙂
*hugs* back!
Thanks so so so MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was about to reply to that post too… but yeah… u said what’s in my mind…
WOAH! now thats the money shot! i hope this doesnt explode all over the kmeadia. b/c the last thing i want is this picture on some sort of news, with netziens comments like, “disgusting, etc.” being quoted, this just makes our own fandom look bad so lets be careful now shall we. dont stop voicing your op, but just find a more courteous way to describe it.
MO: these are grown men which means they can express themselves or do whatever they want to excite their fans. im sure if we were all there in person then we would all be screaming non-stop. theyre pretty much acting in a form of dancing :S jyj had always been innocent classy men, i understand this is a major shocker, but comon live a little, just respect it for what it is.
@niichan, ¡DITTO!
memmm..this is too much…i feel the boys live under thousand of mother inlaw..the first concert i know jyj was Showcase and alot fans sad they should have… blabla otherwise they look gays blablallb..and now what ?? just few second in concert with over sexy dancing they got bash like crazy like they go to bed with some one.
” they make them lower??? NO..idont care before with some one, they are god or not ..but with me they are 26 year old MEN with all their soul and heart…they are not a boys in site crystall box… maybe they got mistate, maybe they can not see all thing because they are young … but they work really hard to pay back all your love: sick, not enoght sleep..try to deserve what you call* GOD*..they ready said they have too becarefull every little thing because may make them coslap..i feel it right now!! with me chunnie, JJ, Junsu can not became * God* like some one want…but they are excellent perrsons. men..work hard, care, love, sexy, talent, responbility…i wish to see in my life!!!!!!cheeeeeeeeeeee
@Anva – “i feel the boys live under thousand of mother inlaw”
LoL…that was an awesome statement! (hugs you) *(ᵔᴥᵔ)*
“… JJ, Junsu can not became * God* like some one want…but they are excellent perrsons. men..work hard, care, love, sexy, talent, responbility”
…that’s exactly the thing! TVXQ/DBSK/Tohoshinki are Idol groups. Manufactured and Boxed by SM & Avex – just like all their other groups – and I won’t deny that I deeply appreciate that JYJ has had a *past* which enabled them to have the *present*….only the guys can know the pain & burdens they’ve had to carry to get to this time of Freedom.
however….I find it disrespectful to expect them to continue to deliver the same “glossy Idol, god-like perfection” that is part of the Korean Entertainment business. Idols live absolutely suffocating lives! JYJ have repeatedly said so….and a few other brave ex-idols say the SAME thing. It’s not rocket-science…being an Idol is FAKE.
For those who want ‘more of the same thing’ – TVXQ2 has signed on for another 10 years, plus SM has a FULL shelf of ‘boxed idols’ to purchase – you may be certain that they will be churning out *safe* performances for all those who find adult hetero-sexuality disturbing. cheers!
I shared your thoughts as well. Ditto to @Anva’s and your comments.
@Anva and @Sally_b, I share your thoughts. 100% agree with you. JYJ boys are grown up men. They can handle such performance with dignity and professionalism.
i feel the boys live under thousand of mother inlaw
HI5! LOL! That’s very well worded. 😀
@Eliza…wasn’t that awesome?….and it’s clear English is not the first language…but to have NAILED it so well. I also offer a *high five* !
oo..sorry you guys, my english so bad but sometime i have to let my emotion out ( like JYJ) other why i have problem too!!!! hug you all..thank you!!
Your English is FINE – I understood everything you were saying – with no problem. ❤
Anya.. I love you. Kindred spirits! haha.. I second everything you say.. and your line about a thousand mother in-laws… RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! ❤
So, this is what Jaejoong meant when he said “a sexiest performance”, ¿eh?
He likes Lady Gaga + western girls are free minded.
This is a very sexual performance. Chunnie handled it very professionally.
¿Can we?
Usually I would be…rolling my eyes at this kind of performance and looking for the sexist issues involved. It caught me by surprise that I wasn’t for this performance and I’ve figured out why. These guys have had experiences that most other men haven’t — they know what it’s like to be looked at as sexual objects. These guys have spent the majority of their careers being dehumanized by both their management company and their fans. They have been made into vessels for girls to pour their adolescent fantasies with no regard to who they are and what they want. It’s only been in the past couple of years that their wants have been recognized, that they have started to regain their humanity.
Because of this, I don’t have the same reaction re: gender issues that I would with most other men. When I see Yoochun moving down that line of dancers, I know that he isn’t seeing six female bodies for his amusement, he’s seeing six desirable people who desire him back (as the second part of the choreography shows). With Jaejoong’s, his dancers are stripping him, trying to get him to do something that he seems reluctant to do, which is why he ends up by himself at the end.
These guys know the power of the sexual image, they’ve been that image since they were teenagers. Everyone who is not looking beyond the quick sweep of an arm between legs (which I still haven’t seen in the fan cams, BTW. Yoochun is too distracting!!) is doing them a great disservice.
OMG.. Danger!! Danger hands and danger zone!!! >_< …. *LOL*.. You make heart broke, Chunnie oppa…
The ” Boys ” are soooo grown up….XD !! And so do I…XD !!