(T/N: YEG=Young Entrepreneurs Group)
[TRANS] Not only the TV but even the newspapers do not report JYJ’s concert, which gathered 60 thousand in two days and greatly contributed to the accommodation industry of Ibaraki! There were various rumors that avex has interfered, but seeing that nobody reports on the media, it is too much a mystery, it’s scary.
(T/N: Inoue is a famous TV entertainment reporter in Japan.)
[TRANS] I hear that JYJ’s reconstruction support live concert was great(^O^) I received tweets from many fans inquiring “Will it be broadcasted in today’s Miyaneya?” The actual state is that, Miyaneya and my office haven’t received any press releases for the reports. I am sorry that I cannot meet up to your expectations.
Source: yaguchi55 + inouekozodesu
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JYJ3 
Oh dear God. Here we go again.
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So 60,000 PEOPLE payed money to trek out to the middle of nowhere, stand for 2 hours in the rain to hear 3 KOREAN young men sing, talk, and dance on a stage in JAPAN (a country that supposedly despises the Korean Hally-U).
AND NO NEWS AGENCY IN KOREA OR JAPAN COVERS THE STORY!!!!!!!
You’re telling me that Japan and Korea sent no cameras, no reporters, no journalists to cover this GROUND BREAKING STORY?
How is this event not significant and worthy of mention in the Japanese and Korean media?
This just makes me sick!
I hope I am wrong…..
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It´s not that it´s not worthy it´s just that the pressure is TOO MUCH V_V
I so want to be past the feeling of outrage. I want to think ” Ho-hum here we go again”, but I just get a sick feeling in my gut when i read these accounts. So, I remind myself,’This is JYJ’ and they have just completed a triumphant two day concert event in Japan; for thousands of fans who love them. The feeling of outrage is lessened; not gone, just not as much. I think JYJ would not want fans to worry over these things; they’ve already stated they’re not going to; just keep moving forward. So I’m going to keep my faith in JYJ in front of me and move forward too.
Well, sorry, but how comes 3 young men can withstand this pressure, but not the whole bunch of a much older and supposed-to-be-wiser in this business people like TV stations PDs, reporters etc?? This whole ordeal seems ridiculous…
@Mirabella
my take is: what does JYJ have to lose? nothing. they only had their pride/dignity (whatever you want to call it) to begin with, and despite SM/Avex’s best efforts to strip them of it while they were active as DBSK/THSK and after, they have hung on admirably (due in no small part to all of US!). Those other companies, the ones that cave in, and this INCLUDES Avex, DO have something to lose, and for many reasons that have been picked over in many places, when the scales were put in front of those companies, they felt that what they had to lose was bigger than what they had to gain.
In very blunt terms, this is business basics 101: size up a situation, consider the risk factors, and then forge ahead down whichever path you the owner of that business feel works best FOR YOUR OWN business.
Now, having said all that, I personally don’t have to like what they’ve decided and will of course rail against them, but I do understand why these businesses, like that bus company for example, chose to do what they did.
However, when it comes to Avex itself, my view is not so understanding. Yes, in the beginning, they were in the same position as JTB(?) and others: SM basically said “dump JYJ or our acts go elsewhere”. But now? actively black-balling (sorry, i really can’t stand the term cockblocking) JYJ seems OTT. perhaps SM is telling them still, do this or we yank all our acts…. and I don’t know what kind of contract SM and Avex have between them, if any…. but still… this part pisses me off royally. And I am frustrated with Avex as they are teh label for a bunch of other, japanese, artists that i LIKE, damnit!
I can relate to your feelings – but take heart friends – the TRUTH shall be revealed soon. Nothing and no one can completely conceal great event such as this. More patience 🙂
This is nothing new, but… The people involved in this should be UTTERLY, COMPLETELY, ENTIRELY ASHAMED. Even though JYJ is black-listed in Japan and considering how hard it is to promote there, they still try to do their best to support Japan. WHY? Because they love Japan & their Japanese fans period. This concert came out love from them at the bottom of their sincere hearts. And it was particularly special in sense because holding the concert in Ibaraki serves to benefit Japan (i.e. boost tourism & etc.) Now, is AVEX doing the same by blatantly disrespecting JYJ? They do a fine job of representing their own people.
AVEX is just eternally pressed that CJES stole JYJ from them.
let it go avex, just let it go
“CJES stole JYJ from them”???
ROFL that maxie kid…. He really is a cry baby, ya….
Fail. I have a minor in Journalism and you don’t need press releases to make a news story. You just have to gather information (which is now easier with the advent of technology and social networking sites) and you’ll have all the facts you need.
this is one of the reason why JYJ still survive from the Avex and sm’s interference. What surprise me is how influential Avex. In Korea SM might be influential but they cannot prevent new media from report JYJ news but here in Japan Avex can shut everything relating to JYJ except for some loop holes which help JYJ to get away with. Those bastards try to monopoly the market but they can’t prevent consumer or fans from supporting. As long as JYJ still release new music, fans will continue following them…
@bishu
” In Korea SM might be influential but they cannot prevent new media from report JYJ news but here in Japan Avex can shut everything relating to JYJ except for some loop holes which help JYJ to get away with.”
This is only what we’ve become used to in the last 2 years. Let’s not be down-trodden for long. What’s HAPPENED already is what’s most important. JYJ entertained 60,000 fans in Japan! That the Japanese press is too cowed and pathetic to report it is beside the point. The really important thing has already happened. Successfully.
@skye
“Fail. I have a minor in Journalism and you don’t need press releases to make a news story. ”
Well, apparently you DO need one in the entertainment press where various large companies are in the middle of your business, manipulating what gets press coverage and what doesn’t. We’ve long heard that the “press releases” that SM sends out to the entertainment press in SK are reported verbatim without a second look as a matter of course. Apparently AVEX has a lock on the Japanese ent-press. Don’t worry. 60,000 people showed up to those shows. And I expect to be hearing from them one way or another.
True true. I guess i should have said CREDIBLE and FACTUAL news stories. That is one of our pet peeves in school, how press releases are published as news. Press releases are almost – if not all the time one-sided so it gets really annoying how the entertainment companies are always presented in good light because the news desks don’t bother to edit. I know they’re probably so scared of these big companies but still.
I’ve always been teased as young and too idealistic but I don’t care. One of these days I’ll defy the status quo and change journalism for the better. Lol, all these were fueled by my love for JYJ and the mistreatment I see towards them. ^^
Well, there are reporters and there are presenters and newsreaders. This guy is obviously just a newsreader. I hope the reporters in Japan pick up the story about the lack of stories, though.
Kinda knew this was going to happen…So not surprised. At least the actual people working in J-Entertainment can pinpoint that a problem exists ~somewhere~ and aren’t *oh I don’t see it in front of my eyes so obviously it’s not happening lalalalala*
I actually think JYJ has more of a chance in Japan since their values are a bit more relaxed than S. Korea. I mean…the current S. Korea is like the Japan of 20 years ago, in a sense.
This doesn’t surprise me at all. It seems that Japan is worse than SK. At least SK will put JYJ on the news.
And…they speak!
hmmmm ….they?
60 thousand fans at that 2 concerts and us ,JYJ fan around the world,we will pass the news faster than the MEDIA..
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You said it! A++++
I love you
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my thoughts exactly!
@Tiffany,because we’re sister,right?
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Right! 😉
Thank you MINMIN. I love you sis!
@Ayame,I love you too,Sis.
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THAT’S WHAT I’M SCREAMING!
The power of the Internet. It’s just that simple. Not complicated at all. 😉
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@BAF
Hi, I agree, there are so many means and ways to SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS. Let’s take heart. Our JYJ became creative because of all the restrictions surrounding them. And look, they survived and are still loved my multitude of JYJ Lovers wherever they go, even with the long absence from Japan. Let’s be creative too. Calling all our creative and talented friends [ wish i have your gift] in the internet…there’s always a way 🙂
yup
A+++++++++++++++++++
@miaw,*hugs*
I’ll spread the news ^__^v
they can block and JYJ on TV, radio and newspaper, hell they erase JYJ from entertainment world. but they just cant denied, erased, JYJ in 60 thousand hearts.
and am from Kuwait know about it and a millions of Arab fans for jyj
Know about it to so don’t worry we love jyj and will always support them ^__^
Truth is truth, jyj popularity in Japan is so daebak and u cant ignore it just liked that. Their successful concert still will internationally know by people through internet. So what the purpose of closing people eyes in your country? Ai….
Of course a concert that draws that big of a crowd and not only no TV reports but also no newspaper reports, it doesn’t take a genious to know what happened there. But our boys will continue doing what they do best and we fans will continue giving them our support. No matter what Avex and sme do, it won’t stop our boys now. JYJ HWAITING!!!
hmmm…. its so silent.. the media is gagged… but the hearts of the fans and JYJ are screaming…. no matter what method is used against them to clip their wings and block the sound of their music, remember, there is always that one day that all will be revealed and the good will still prevail… so yeah…
keber sa mga adik na humaharang pa rin sa kanila… mamatay kayo sa inggit at di kayo makapuno ng venue nang hindi isang baranggay ng mga idol nyo ang dala nyo… che~!!! hahaahah!!!!
TAMA ka sister – inggit lang sila!
Inggit at praning kamo?!!!
Amen! 😀
lol.
korak sister!!!
@sam-sam
“its so silent.. the media is gagged… but the hearts of the fans and JYJ are screaming…. no matter what method is used against them to clip their wings and block the sound of their music, remember, there is always that one day that all will be revealed and the good will still prevail”
And look out, Spain and Berlin! There will be NO such media blocks there! They will welcome JYJ with open arms. Isn’t it just shocking and UNCONSCIONABLE that people whom they have said again and again are the fans dearest to their hearts can ALLOW their press, alleged to be free of partisan interference, to get away with disrespecting and ignoring them like this??
Its a shame, really… it’s like “as long as we so no blood, there’s no need to panic…”
hmmm… im not talking abt anyone of JYJ getting hurt or bleeding, but it’s what im thinking what Korean fans & their govt might need before someone actually does something to change the stupid “system” that they follow… <.<''''
may tama ka!! kekekek
lagi naman eh!!! ahahahahah!!!! musta ang kao-OT? ako rin, nahawa na… kahit off pumasok ako… peste! >.<
0__0 !!!
I’m expecting this, the great success of JYJ’s Unforgettable Concert in Japan HURT and bitchslap those mighty, arrogant companies and friends, it’s a never ending bullying for JYJ. For me, I’m just super happy right now that their concert in Japan which was faced by so much resistance since day 1 when it was planned and announced, was really successful with all those and unique great moments – a concert directly under the sky!
Non-media coverage doesn’t hurt me at all!
Same here kaibigan, I’m in Cloud 9 – and i’m not affected by their bullying. I have faith that the truth shall be known to the world if not soon, certainly someday. Seeing the pictures, the happy faces of everyone, the love and affection expressed, shown and shared between JYJ and their fans are enough proof for me. The 2-days are JYJ’s shining moments – no one can ever conceal that, no amount of power or influence can hide that – it’s definitely their loss!
My heart is so grateful to all the people who made this possible – from the sponsors, production crew, staff, dancers, etc, and the FANS of course.
JYJ is definitely loved!
Do they need press releases before they can say something about the concert on TV? That’s the wierders excuse ever! His is better than KBS though. However JYJ keeps getting bigger and bigger despite this cocblocking. This is the making of “THE FAILED COCKBLOCKING” ever in history. JYJ will prevail.
I was typing “weirdest”; typos!
I wasn’t expecting news reports at all, tbh. The charity concert didn’t have any press either and that had been for charity too. But then…maybe if the concerts didn’t attract so much fans, wasn’t sold out, didn’t happen…maybe we’d get news coverage. I’d rather non-coverage then. Still, the interference/blocking is not okay, never will be okay, and it’s frustrating that as fans we can only do so much. Those who went should flood forums and 2ch channels, post pics, videos, and accounts of the concert. It might seem like spam…but idk. At least that’s one way of getting the concert out there. Not bitter, but if this is Avex’s last resort of interfering with the concerts, then they already lost. Non-coverage doesn’t take away the success of the concerts, no matter what they do, especially if there are pics and videos of the concerts being passed around.
Not at all surprised. I’m only hoping that JYJ might not be too upset with this.
Don’t worry beloveds, if some incompetent people can’t spread this news, your fans will. 60,000 attendees, plus hundreds of thousands, if not millions more worldwide are keeping tabs of the news and spreading about your success. Keep your heads up! We’re always right behind you. ❤
i know this gonna happen…japan suckk
NO, Japan is a great country and her people are awesome especially the JYJ Japanese Fans, and JYJ loves Japan very much
…only the media concerned sucks !
Hmmm,what about those who hunt and kill dolphins and whales? Are they awesome too?
And as far as I know,Japanese love eating whale meat.
There might be some who are against it but who knows? 98% of their citizens might be eating whale meat every single day.
I’m not trying to insult jap fans or anything,they’re great fans,I know. And I’m happy that so many of them showed up for JYJ’s con.
It’s just that,everyone has such a great liking towards japan but what is so great about that country?!
They’re harming the marine life and the jap gov is not even doing anything about it.
Whales and dolphins,they’re innocent creatures,why do you have to be so cruel to kill them? If you killed the adult dolpins/whales,who’s going to take care of their offsprings?
I love animals alot,and seeing a highly developed country doing that to poor innocent creatures,I don’t have the heart to forgive the country who allowed fishermen to hunt for dolphins/whales and the people who eat them.
I hate japan. And I truly think that the tsunami that hit japan months ago was a punishment for them from God of Sea.
What goes around,comes around.
You can say anything you want,but i’ll never change my stance on how I view Japan and it’s people.
I think I’ve done too much of ranting,lol sorry.
LOL Good for you. Apperantly you live in a perfect country where everybody lives in harmony with nature, no industry, no cars to contaminate the air we all need, no killing animals for eating purposes, nobody does anything wrong… It must be heaven.
where the shit did that come from..
@Vik720
LOL no,I hate my country too.
People abuse dogs like everyday.
I’m not Trying to say that Japan is the only country who is harming the nature,but at least In my country,we don’t kill whales and dolphins to eat them!
I was just trying to say what’s on my mind because kris commented that Japan is great and Japanese are awesome.
Killing dolphins and whales is obviously not awesome.
And btw,you don’t have to be so sarcastic you know.
@jaeebb
Erm..Japan is KNOWN for it’s killing of whales and dolphins.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_Japan
@vik720
http://savejapandolphins.org/blog/post/new-dolphin-slaughter-of-striped-dolphins
Should These actions done by irresponsible and inhuman japanese be ignored?
@Wendyy
I respect your sentiment about Japan, but I do not agree with you though. I think you are off this time.
So please stop. The comments were not directed against Japan and the Japanese. Rather we are so thankful to the Japanese fans of JYJ who showed great love and support to JYJ. 80,000 is no joke given the lack of publicity.
The commentaries were referring to a sector that are bullying JYJ. We are not generalizing here – so please stop. Maybe you can find other blogs to air your views about Japan. Thank you.
@JYJ1214
*sigh*
Fine.
If I keep this up,I’m going to gain more hatred.
@wendy
i am not questioning the fact of japanese killing whales and dolphins or whatever, more like where the shit from your head did you decide to pull out specifically this point to claim your hatred towards the japanese.. i’m sorry i don’t have a far-fetched mind and it really is amazing to speak of whales and dolphins in a jyj article imho.
oh, and i rather hate on psychos who kill people for fun than fishermen who kill marine creatures for food. I’m sorry, i’m not much of an animal lover as i am a human lover.
I’m being sarcastic as crap right now cuz i don’t understand how people can be so one-track minded. I respect your decision to hate the japanese (even though i could go on for hours against why that is utterly.. ..nvm.), but it really is as good as saying to hate the chinese cuz they kill sharks for fins only. oh wait, who cares about sharks anyway?
I’m not gonna start some strange animal or ethical debate right here in jyj’s article but I’m just flabbergasted at some of the stuffs i see here. anyways, peace out!
@jaesarang
“…japan suckk” ????? Say What???
Please me friend, be careful and much more thoughtful with the words you use.
The reality is that 60,000 people showed up for this concert IN JAPAN.
I venture to say that at least 99% of these people were Japanese.
This post is strictly a criticism of THE MEDIA. The Japanese and Korean media.
As an international fan I am simply AWED and THANKFUL of the support the Japanese have shown to JYJ in the past 2 days.
Please don’t insult these loyal JAPANESE fans with such careless comments.
@AFriendofJYJ I concur. Japanese fans truly love them and it is plain ignorant to generalize & lump all Japanese citizens into the same category as AVEX.
sorry…i miss type media…im so thankful for japanese fans coz waiting the boys for such a long time…and seeing fans from another region in japan wiling to go far far away from their state to ibaraki….totally make me feel chill&amaze toward their support…sincerely thanxx to all them …..just the thing their media is totally suck & ignorant& cold toward JYJ…how come they did this to JYJ who alwayzzz love japan& already become 2nd home to them….so upsetTT.TT..
Don´t say that please Japan does NOT suck .. JYJ loves Japan and their japanese fans are very supportive and great people.
But this situation and unfairness sucks .. 😦
Japan is not suck. Avex is. generalization is bad.
Japan is a beautiful country with 2/3 of it’s area are forest, and snow are still regularly fall in there, I don’t think Japan is suck.
I don’t understand why some people need to bring in nationalism into a JYJ article!?
I’ve been seeing that recently here and that sucks!
Pls be more sensitive and do not generalize!!!
Geez!
hmm…now a concert with 60 000 fans to donate for Japan reconstruction is even not worthy to appear on any media. Great, what the hell !!
@nana301
“now a concert with 60 000 fans to donate for Japan reconstruction is even not worthy to appear on any media. Great, what the hell !”
I know. It’s beyond insane. It’s against the whole country itself. It’s against every person who lives and survived the quake in Ibaraki. It’s simply SHOCKING in its insularity, blatant self-interest and selfishness. That’s AVEX, folks. Is there any wonder why JYJ didn’t want to sign a contract with them?? I don’t think so.
@Aki
“But then…maybe if the concerts didn’t attract so much fans, wasn’t sold out, didn’t happen…maybe we’d get news coverage. I’d rather non-coverage then’
Yeah, I’ve seen that happen before (not specifically JYJ, but in general, only the “bad” news makes the cut but the “good” news is “forgotten”
@yurei
I’m only hoping that JYJ might not be too upset with this”
They shouldn’t be. Haven’t we proven to them that the people that love them will be with them no matter what. And I say “We” specifically, since I know Jae’s twitter feed was flooded after the two concerts with mountains of well-wishes and congratulations from all around the world.
These bitter, opportunity-missed companies can black-ball all they like, but as time is showing, JYJ and our wonderful and GLOBAL fan community will never be stopped.
Shouldn’t and what is have a definite difference. Even when we did, they still couldn’t help but worry that not many fans will show up as they themselves stated. I think every artist but have that worry nagging at them. Still, I see where you’re going. 🙂
You’re right in that sense of course. As long as we are here, JYJ will be. ❤ Let's continue and support JYJ always. ❤
Amen to that 😀
not surprised at all -______-
Avex and SM are losers, they tried to covered JYJ by anything they could but we (JYJ fans) know that they cannot stop us from loving JYJ. Do what you can SM & Avex! because we know KARMA do EXIST! Just wait!
HEY…there’s a news article !
http://www.enews24.net/news/03/1791902_1164.html
JYJ, 日 콘서트 8만 여 팬 운집+교통 마비 ‘인기 입증’
…waiting for the trans
and look at the 2nd pic they used – JYJ Nation!
JYJ Nation — I really like that phrase. 😀
another article :
http://news.nate.com/view/20111017n08414
JYJ는 일본 이바라키현 히타치 공원에서 단독 콘서트 ‘JYJ UNFORGETABLE LIVE CONCERT IN JAPAN 2011’를 가졌다. 15~16일 …
at least there are some Korean News, maybe Japanese tabloids only will do the honor soon for Japan side !
The view of the fans from where the boys are standing is awesome! I want more pics like this!!!!
better screen capture it.
WOW Avex…still carrying a torch I see. You can’t get her back, so you will continue to stalk and do whatever to try and make her life miserable? Dude, the party is over, don’t you get it?! Childish, infantile, immature…the list goes on.
Maxie and company, this is not, and I repeat, this is not rocket science. You have lost your golden egg laying hen. Nothing you try will bring it back, it has flown the coop, NEVER to return. Once this year is over, your connection to these three young men is OVER! The only thing of value you had to offer was a lesson in what they should not do again. They had no intentions of going back to a model that did not work for them. You miscalculated.
Ok, here is how it is going to work from now on…you will try and put together some worth while endeavors to keep your heads afloat. You really need to concentrate on the artists on your roster. You will leave JYJ alone. Alone, you got it?! They no longer need you. They have a fanbase that is not going anywhere. 60,000 people showed up to see them do their thing. 60,000 people came away very satisfied at the outcome. They saw a wonderful performance by three very talented artists. You cannot make this a non-event. IT DID HAPPEN.
Know what? Those 60,000 people will now go home and tell EVERYONE they know, how wonderful the event was. This you cannot stop from happening. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it still make noise. You bet your sweet bippy it does. Maxie, I know logic is not your strong suit, but really, come on now, this is wearing a bit thin. How much do you want to bet, by doing this, you are going to create more controversy, which then become news. Hmmmm?
I have been following this site for sometime now but it is the first time I’m writing a comment. Actually I’m really new to JYJ and k-pop for that matter. So I want to ask about JYJ’s situation in regards to AVEX. What I know is since avex put a hold on their activities they can’t promote in japan eaily. Does that mean their contract with avex is still valid although they can’t promote. If so when does their contract with Avex end? You say by the end of this year, you mean 2011? If so then it’s great:)
@shiroi
Good to see you come forward, the more the merrier. Avex’s JYJ contract ended back in the spring, it was only for one year from 2010. What is still in play right now is the TOHOSHINKI contract. Since the guys are still members, Avex is using this last connection to hold on legally. From most comments by others, it seems as if by the end of this year, that contract will end. Yoochun has been quoted from a fan meet I believe, as saying they would like to plan a tour of Japan next year.
So, all the indications are this will be the reality come 2012. This doesn’t mean Avex won’t stop trying to make life miserable for JYJ once they do begin to step up their game in Japan. But there simply is nothing they can do to keep fans from supporting them. CJeS has displayed remarkable skills in ways to keep JYJ viable. Hope this explanation helps. If anyone has any corrections or additions, please feel free to jump right in.
thank you for the explanation 🙂
Ty for the explanation, I wasn’t sure about the situation either 🙂
@Butterflies LOVE.
I literally LOL-ed reading. And I needed that right now 😀
Don’t we all. 😉
SM in Korea and Avex in Japan … -_- God.
JYJ fightiiing!!!!
Like father like son!!! oops *zip my lips*
I’d find it funny that SME and Avex still believe their “out of sight, out of mind” bullshit and work so hard to prove it right while continuously proving it wrong. I’d find it funny if not for the hints that JYJ still kinda believe it themselves. I hope every concert they do, in every part of the world, chips away at that nasty piece of conditioning.
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So, if allegedly MSent+Xeva are at work doing their dirty stinky business, we have to think that what we are dealing here with is opportunity cost as media/broadcasters and all sees it: They may think do we want to promote JYJ and lose everything that we can get by associating or not with the dogs, or do we want/need to get the $$$ that will come with our associations? It seems that the media/broadcasters are too deep tied up to see the true gains that may come from promoting JYJ even though evidence is right in front of their faces.
I am not a sociologist or cultural anthropologist, but from what we see projected in the ent business/media/broadcasting/movies/dramas, we are dealing with a culture of hierarchy and values that do not necessarily concern with human rights/ freedom of expression as we internalize them through our own cultures. This may not express the values and the culture of the whole nations, and it’s not about being wrong/right, but if we learn more and understand more about the environment in which the boys challenges unfold, then we may have a better idea of how long and how difficult these struggles may or may not be. Again, this is not an analysis of the culture and the values of a society as a whole, but it will be very interesting to analyze the ent-industry/media/broadcasting through cultural, social, economic, political, justice lenses.
What is true, factual, and we have evidence for is that: Japanese fans gather in thousands of thousands to support JYJ even if the boys had to do it at the “end of the world” sort of speak.
And one more thing, I hope/pray/wish that JYJ has a strategist/consultant at work putting together a strategic plan and a development plan on how to make social media/ internets bring the biggest return on their investments. The tools are there, most of them free, one just needs to know how to brand itself, position in this immense virtualsphere, create a niche (which is already there) and go with it. Go, JYJ, go! Noona will cheer you up from the sides! I will even get pom-pons. LOL!
I really agree with what you’re saying. Are you by any chance working in the human relations department?
Also, LOL at the pom-poms! This is what I always say too!
It will be interesting if someone brings up these “cockblockings” as an academic thesis or an academic dissertation.. And sincerely I will greatly respect the brave heart people who has the gut to do it! Because I think these blockings has already been happening since long ago with JTL’s (formerly H.O.T member) stories. It is frustrating and unfair!
That’s why I stand by JYJ’s side and anyone who has been suffering the same problems. I really hope through JYJ’s lawsuit, that this time and forever all the matters in entertainment industries (esp. in Korea) will be solved FAIRLY.. I don’t want to witness all the same unfair treatments happened all over again..
I’m sick and tired of the cheap and low methods SM and AVEX are using to TRY to block JYJ but listen closely you two companies, IT WON’T WORK!!! Do you both not realize that you are in business because of the money is fans spend – in other words, you both should be listening to us fans and that we want our JYJ to be free to promote and share their love and passion throughout the world! JYJ FIGHTING!
Hey! Oh never mind its not the same. LOL
Off to customize.
Not suprise at all. Although no traditional media reporting, does not have a negative impact on JYJ. 60.000 fans attended the 2 days concert isn’t it? I think that is good for me because we knows that JYJ effect is non stoppable. LOL.
JYJ Nation! I love this!!!!!
not suprise at all. even though it’s not get reported but it’s can’t denied the fact that 60.000 fans attended the 2 days concert and they enjoy it
For one who is indifferent, life itself is a prison. Any sense of community is external or, even worse, nonexistent. Thus, indifference means solitude. Those who are indifferent do not see others. They feel nothing for others and are unconcerned with what might happen to them. They are surrounded by a great emptiness. Filled by it, in fact. They are devoid of all hope as well as imagination. In other words, devoid of any future.-Elie Wiesel
But for me i feel “sad” for maxie and stupidman… Poor guys… They must have lost their appetite and sleep after knowing how many ppl came to JYJ show…. *tsk tsk*
Some how , it is kinda funny… 2 giant compaines are breathlessly struggling to block the three young men and yet, nothing works!!! sad and funny, isnt it???
I’m pretty sure Japanese media won’t release any good news from JYJ but more likely will focus on the bad news if they can find any from Avex.
60,000 fans flooded a remote area with no transport facilities and they have a blast time and no report about that? emmm
And thank god for today’s technologies.. you dont have to be there to know what is happening. Haha, someone even make it streaming on line. All the fan cam are there at you tube, youku. Fans even post pictures while they are singing thr’ twitter. News travel very fast. And i am sure those fans who attend will tell others about it, they will upload pictures, events and all. So even though tv and newspaper didnt cover the event, the whole world knew about it. So Avex, SM, do your worst. The more you block JYJ, the higher they will fly
JYJ, GANBATTE
Love this comment!!! 😀
the world is ruled by corruption. How low human civilization had become.
this suppression leave a bitter taste in my mouth. and people wonder why we are so protective and pressed when it come to JYJ. And people still defend and say there is no such thing as ‘the visible hand’. Of course you cant see it since its freaking invisible.
on the positive note, that’s why we need to spread the news all over the internet! The world is ruled internet now. Paper dont print, TV didnt broadcast it, then we need to twit, FB, emails, blogging, upload and stream it.
first, i’m no longer watching TV. second, i only read politic/social/science-technology news in newspaper. third, i spent most of my times spazzing kpop like this. so my biggest concern is if they can’t even appear anywhere in the internet~ 🙂
that’s just said, go make YT channel too, CJes! 😀
Hahaha~~~ My habits echo yours~~ so true~~~~ I definitely live 24/7 without the TV coz I live 24/7 on the internet where news are faster!!~ Especially JYJ news!!~~ ^^
http://netizenbuzz.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/sm-entertainments-unfair-treatment-towards-super-junior-remains-a-hot-topic/
Guys I just found this article. It talks about SM´s unfair treatment towards SJ
Just a while ago I was thinking is every SM-idol,out of our 3 beloved boys, were happy in SM and how SM treats them.
And after reading this I realised that no. There is no way ALL of them are happy .
So why are they still there? The answer is kind of sad but the truth is that THEY WOULD NOT SURVIVE.
and they are aware of it. Their fandom could be supportive but it´s almost impossible that the current KOREAN members would survive without SM.
Not just because of its power and influence but (if there is SJ’s fan here I´m sorry but it’s just my opinion) because their talent alone is not strong enough.
It´s so hard for our JYJ, our very very talented JYJ .. It would be terrible for the others.
But. our JYJ has to do it! They must!! We can´t loss to SM.
We need to be strong. FIGHTING!
*Can’t lose, honey >///< Oh my… O~O I know this nothing new, but it's terrible for SuJu (I'm not even a fan of theirs really, but…) I feel terrible that they had to struggle so… If I am correct, SME basically didn't know what to do with them, so they just dumped the left-over trainees that didn't make it into TVXQ (the best of divisions) into one group. If it was bad for five members, just think of thirteen of them (is it 13? I loose track) Well, SM tries to market the image that their idols are well-off and cared for (e.g. fine clothes, eating on the camera…) but we all know the dirty truth.
There’s a saying ‘chickens coming home to roost’. Kind of like ‘just desserts’. There is simply no other way to say it, fans of other SME groups have to wake up and see what is really before them. This company DOES NOT care for it’s artists. The ONLY thing it cares about is filling the pockets of LSM.
When JYJ left, EVERYONE called them all kinds of names..too many to mention. But seeing the freedom the guys have and the success that comes their way, has to hurt. The sad part is these fans now know, there is no where for SJ to go, and nothing to be done for them.
SM & Avex are turn JYJ into “public enemy” (or national enemy?) in Korea and Japan. like i used to say, were JYJ make some national crimes???!!
and the not so funny part is most media, showbiz companies and goverment just shut up and not do anything since that’ll be too risk for them. i want to waste my energy for those people no more. i just want to focus all my love and support for JYJ, and felt relief and thankful that i have you all, JYJ lovers, with me. ^^
Thank you JYJ for being exist in this world. dont ever give up!!
*sorry for my bad english*
NO ONE CAN PUT THESE GOOD MEN DOWN … THEY ARE GETTING STRONGER BY THE MINUTE .. AND THEY ARE GAINING THE RESPECT OF MORE PEOPLE AS WE SPEAK ..
Thank God we have internet these days, and a large group of cassies to ensure that their news reach every part of the world!!!!!!!!!! JYJ3 is one of the most resourceful and updated news portal for JYJ and there are thousands of JYJ “reporters” tweeting and updating news about the boys!
Don’t worry if no TV or newspapers report about them, because there is a strong JYJ ARMY in Korea, Japan, Asia, Europe, Latin American, North Amercia and EVERYWHERE!!!!!
cockblocking everywhere. still, thank you to the Japanese fans who went to show their support for JYJ and Ibaraki.
Well.. it seems that there really was no press release. I work for a radio station and tried to get my hands on information, but other than the zak-ohp, there was no information about the concert to be had. And no general press release was published either.
Maybe it was because everyone concentrated so hard on making the concert an unforgettable experience, but… a faxing a one-paper document would have been a great thing to do. Those are what the main tv- and radio networks operate on, so they’re necessary. Stories can’t be made on fans’ estimates or fan accounts.
Different newspapers have had stories out today in large numbers, so they’ve gotten a comment from ZAK/YEG.
@gali83
“Maybe it was because everyone concentrated so hard on making the concert an unforgettable experience, but… a faxing a one-paper document would have been a great thing to do. Those are what the main tv- and radio networks operate on, so they’re necessary. Stories can’t be made on fans’ estimates or fan accounts.”
I’m sorry… not sure what you are trying to say here. But there is a strong insinuation that ZAK and or CJES failed to “notify” the media?
Wait 80,000 people in Japan seemed to have figured it out. But you’re saying that the Japanese press was waiting for a “one page fax” to figure why 80,000 people crippled the subway and roadways trying to make their way to a remote location field to hear 3 Korean young men sing?
If you honestly believe the media only operates on press releases for a source of the news they report, you are sadly mistaken. If that were the case my friend the news would not be news. Which news media outlet waits to be told about news? No they don’t stand around a fax machine waiting for stories to come through…they go in search of news, so they can lead the way and be the first with the headline.
Oh and I agree “Stories can’t be made on fans’ estimates or fan accounts.” Yes this is true that is why any normal news/media outlet would send a reporter with a camera crew to see for themselves what is going on. And don’t tell me they did not know about the event. If they did not know about it Saturday October 15th, by Sunday they would have known and had time to get a reporter on site at the event.
Please don’t try to make it seem as though there some failure on the part of JYJ and their PR/Management Team, because no media outlet reported their concert story.
The REALITY is that 80,000 people standing in the field at the event seemed to figured it out without a “press release.”
That is absolutely not what I was trying to say. Apologies if my wording made you think that. My excuse is that I’m speep-deprived from the concert 🙂
I jumped on the bandwagon from day 1 and we even managed well with distributing the yellow and green lights for the show 🙂
The concert was a well-known event all around the country, and of course general public knew about it. People in the entertainment industry knew too.
What I was trying to say (apprently with weird wording) that there was indeed no general press release published.
My point: with companies giving media some pressure from the beginning they are not likely to go the extra mile themselves. But if you give them information ready to be broadcasted and show that you are interested to answer more questions and prove that there is interest for the story, it will be much easier for you to make news.
That’s why I thought it was odd not to have a release that could have been easily forwarded to all media parties.
Hope this cleared some up.
I’m going to jump into this and ask. Are you saying that there is no such thing as a free press in Japan?
“with companies giving media some pressure from the beginning they are not likely to go the extra mile themselves.”
If your press is free, they don’t need anyone’s permission to operate. From the sound of this, it does not appear this is the case. How sad.
@AFriendofJYJ ~~ very well sed~~i’m proud of U sister!!! ^_~
thou the the true fact is 80 000 mr. inouekozodesu, ut i choose to let it go.. coz you are on JYJ side.. we fans are kindhearted people like that 🙂
so,Japanese and Korean media made me feel dissapointed, maybe Indonesia hasn’t music industry as big as Japan or Korea, but we never did something like they did. Music and the artists have to be respected. Why do artist managements at Japan and Korea have authority to ban an artist who has fantastic record and they are truly talented to promote their artworks?? I really really don’t understand. Are they scare of JYJ’s popularity?? If you’re smart businessman, you’ll run to JYJ and sign a contract with them to get a high profit.
*sigh
who is associated with gangsters again? -_-
🙂
@coffeecraze ~~ “who is associated with gangsters again?” -_-
answer~~~anyone associated with mr PMS and mr MAXIEPAD