That’s funny. You didn’t even greet back to make it as quick as possible….hahaha. I always like yours and Skye & Shuheilove’s comments. I am from Indonesia. Internet connection in my city is so freaking fast I always missed the first 10 comments….:)
>:) you totally have to do that! get some rest, get your sleep pattern sorted out, and then steal this away from me after 4 days HAHAHAH! that would be so freaking awesome if it happens like that 😀 (I have NO idea if i can even do this twice, not with you AND jen stalking too lol!)
hahaha, that would be funny, but it could be never ending if that kept happening XDDD
and, tbh, I took “Skye” from a model, Skye Stracke. I just loved it and since I’ve been using sky-related usernames for a while (I’m skiesareburnig at tumblr and pinkskiesinmars at twitter, i.e), I just thought It would fit and loved it ❤ I knew about the island later bc a friend told me, and it just added something more to the username. I love it, it's my fave from all the usernames I've had (and I've had A LOT xDDDD).
Ahh i see, it was just funny cause I lived a bit south of the island Skye when I was a kid, so that is the first thing that pops in my head when I see your name…. though I confess my idiot fingers keep trying to type skype instead lol!
Well it’s sort of a given seeing as how I work in IT.. i get to play tech support w/my users and their skype for remote observations at the telescope I work for…. so it’s muscle reflex to type it already LOL! I swear every. single. time. I’ve typed your name i’ve had to go back and delete ‘p’ LOLOL!
lol…..you lose your place today….
where are you last time????
it’s funny if no see you in first comment in GAP because i know your life for GAP….*peace
LOL….
XDDDDDDDD Actually, I started visiting GAPP not so long ago, but it’s so fun and all of you are great *-*
And I was too distracted stalking Yoochun’s pics and gifs and studying Korean and wtf, not really, just stalking Yoochun’s sexyness that I got slow!! 😦 looool.
ps. Nobody sneaks Chunnie out from me under my nose ¬__¬ At least not in my dreams x_DDDDDD IRL I would probably tie myself to his back or something just in case fangirls would try to take him from me xDDDD #obsessed, lol
I’m thinking of gluing mine & Jae’s hand together – that way we’re stuck together, literally, but we still get to keep one hand free for other…. interesting… stuff!!! 😉
Happy Wednesday jyj family…hi. It become very much addictive waiting who will be first…we stand as audiences. This is fun funny…love you girls. Congrats…..@Skye don’t kill that comp. And @Jen…I know..smiling…. Danke.
i was praying hard yesterday someone would break @skye’s streak…but now High Cut mag, a The Begnning cd, another JYJ cd, and yet another cd are up for grabs! JYJers are sooooo great sharing all these..
so i guess you’ll have to wait a little bit longer for In Heaven…kekekeke…
hahaha, you wouldn’t do much with my laptop, tbh, poor thing’s old and trashy xDDDDD idk how she survives anymore, but I do not have the money to get another one xD
Happy Wednesday to you too, and everyone else. I’m having too much fun watching the chase for the brass ring. 🙂 Thank goodness I have to go to bed and get some rest for work! 😉 I’ll be happy with my random luck on the weekends.
This is for everyone, no matter where you are, or the time of day, hope your day is a good one…
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hi BAF sis. “Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.” that is why i never regret of my straight forward personality whatever other people say or think
To my sisters, glad to be part of the positive energy of this site, and fan family. Let’s just keep on keeping on. 🙂 This is what we have to offer the guys. Lots of love, support, and positive caring. We’ll help them get through anything! 😉
You bet! I can’t concentrate on my ninja skills if Yoochun is there being a GOD! Yoochun, you boy, I know you’d rather have me fighting to get a copy of High Cut, but Jae and his home deserve some love too, you know? 😦
This is random but maybe someone can help me with this: I want to know who are this guys. Maybe @Jen or @Brat9 or @ckino could know…… ¿Where are you my dears?
Are you sure they’re gay? I’m not too familiar with who’s who in J-rock bands, but they’ve always had kiss performances during their live shows. It’s part of their fanservice.
Hello sweet ladies. Thanks a lot for enlightening me on this. Well, here comes another rant. Certainly I’m not sure if they are gay (I tend to think they might be bisexual ) but show this to any westerner who doesn’t know about “visual keys” and “fan services” (95% of the population at least) and ask him/her what he/she thinks, and the answer will be for sure: ¡They are gays! It is not so easy for a westerner to come accustomed to this kind of behaviours. @Kementari says that this is a “hard core” kind of fan service; well, it’s obvious it is hard core. The way this guy is kissing the other is like if he wanted to suck the other’s soul out of his body and swallow it. Delicious to be kissed like this by a man, but to witness two men kissing like this, well…..that is completely different. I’ve been dealing with fan services for a decent amount of time by know, since I decided to follow some J-pop artists who I like; Gackt and Hyde for example. Btw, these two “gave life” to a similar story last year during Gackt’s birthday, when they met at the place where the party was being held, and after some drinks and all of a sudden they began to kiss ardently each other in front of the guests and the journalists present. Fortunately, their lawyers were able to settle an arrangement with the press and the guests to keep this incident locked and buried. The thing is, yes, this kind of behaviours are accepted among japanese society (who had thought about that in the past, being them so strict about everything) but how true is the fact that these men are straight in their normal lifes and they keep this only to please their fans? (Strange way for a man to please a woman kissing and flirting with another man). ¡Come on! These kind of experiences have their effects on the people who lives them. ¿What happened to dear Heath Ledger (R.I.P) after filming “Brokeback Mountain”? The ardent scenes with Jake Gyllenhaal made their effects and he had a hard time trying to recover from them, and obviously he couldn’t at all. So, how on earth are these men going to kiss like this in front of the entire world and then walk away like if nothing had happened? I can’t believe that; it’s almost impossible to be free of the remainings of such a behaviour. They like it or they don’t. If they don’t, they just stop doing it but if they like it, well, they will continue doing it everywhere and anytime, not only during their performances. This is what I think. These guys are playing with fire, and the one who plays with fire ends up burning.
@shuheilove
I’m sorry, but I have to COMPLETELY disagree on your point about Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal. Brokeback Mountain was a landmark performance for them both, and was critically acclaimed. What Heath Ledger battled afterwards was his depression due to pain of broken relationships and loss. I’m having a hard time understanding your view that he “can’t recover from ardent scenes with Jake Gyllenhaal”. Also, yes, Jake did have some rumours about him being gay after that, but he just brushed it off as “flattering if there’s a rumour of me being bisexual. That means I can play more roles”. Plenty of straight actors have played homosexual roles before. Rumours are something inevitable, but they die down.
“Delicious to be kissed like this by a man, but to witness two men kissing like this, well…..that is completely different.”
Doesn’t this suggest that you’re just uncomfortable with a homosexual act thrown into your face?
And might I point out that some Western bands do fanservice too? Just on different levels. Also, what about some girl-on-girl. Like hello, Madonna and Britney anyone?
Hi everybody. I mostly just watch what is going on here, but this topic draws me in. Can somebody help me understand the concept of fanservice in terms of these overtures of gayness. Why do girls who like guys want to see them kissing each other or in love with each other? I understand why gay guys would like to see that. If you like guys, don’t you want to see them liking girls? I really don’t get it. I always loved seeing DBSK/JYJ loving each other and being somewhat intimate with each other, but only as far as it suggests a very close relationship. When it crosses over into sexual overtones, it really leaves me cold. And then when I see the photoshopped photos passed around as real, it drives me nuts.
So, long story short, why do girls want to see guys even pretending to kiss each other or such things.
Please, I’m not bashing or criticizing either Heath Ledger or Jake Gyllenhaal. You must have read or interpreted it the wrong way. My point has nothing to do with them both and I know the movie was acclaimed worldwide. I only used the hard time Heath had after filming the movie to illustrate my point, so sorry if I made you understand my point the wrong way. Please, I ask you kindly to read the post carefully after jumping to wrong conclusions. Thanks a lot.
¡Come on! I’m so sorry to have started a discussion about this “delicate” issue. I’m not an homophobic, but I don’t like to see couples (either homo or hetero) kissing ardently in front of my face or in front of my children’s face in a public place, but if they want to live and kiss each other like this in a place where this is proper, no problem at all.. If people here wants to understand it the wrong way, well, I can’t force them to understand that there are different points of views and different opinions and responsibilities, and those not always end in an homophobic statement. So please, just try to be tolerant. A parent can’t think the same way as a single person does, otherwise, where do our resposibility would be?
You can read my view on the J-rock/visual kei fanservice thing below. But on a more general note, I don’t know why they cater so much to what the fangirls want. And by they I mean the management companies of Korean and Japanese idol groups. Granted, their interactions on a normal basis are already close, but they always up the ante during concerts. The normally accepted reason is because the fangirls view them as theirs, and seeing their idols romancing girls ruins that illusion. But interactions between group members are accepted, tolerated, even encouraged/expected. Some fans have the view that it’s okay for their idols to date, just KEEP IT SECRET. Some ship pairings for fun, some believe that they’re totally in love, whatever it is, it’s the fans’ fantasies. Heck, some pairings even ship themselves! (Looking at you, EunHae and JongKey). You don’t even really need actual fanservice, slash pairings has been around for so long already with characters from movies, books etc. For me, it’s probably the same reasoning of shoujo/yaoi manga. It’s specifically marketed for girls/women. Gay men rarely go for these things because it’s NOT a reflection of reality. Most gay guys DON’T go for all this fluff, it’s a misconception if you think so. Women/ girls on the other hand buy into the romance of a “forbidden love”. Myself, I do ship some pairings but I do it purely for the fun of it. Also, some fanfiction writers are actually really talented, so I mostly read the stories (fiction=not real, unlike what some deluded people think) because it’s interesting.
Anyway, just to get another thought out there, what about the girl/girl pairings? There’s quite a lot of those too, only not as big as guy/guy.
¡Sigh! I only wanted to know who they were and to analyze if it was possible for them to be entirely straight after experiencing such homo behaviours. Please excuse me. That’s why I don’t like to write long rants, I have my bitter experience on them here and I don’t want it to repeat; never. So sorry. End of my post. 😦 😦
I’ve actually read that comment many times in order to understand and formulate my answer. Again, based on your statement “I only used the hard time Heath had after filming the movie to illustrate my point, so sorry if I made you understand my point the wrong way.” what IS your point? From my understanding, you said that he had a hard time after filming the movie because he played a gay character and he couldn’t recover from the “effects”. And I refuted that.
And I do understand your later point about being a parent and shielding your children. I did after all mention that you’re uncomfortable with the homosexual act being in your face. It’s just in your earlier comment you didn’t mention your concern for your children and instead said “These guys are playing with fire, and the one who plays with fire ends up burning.” which I actually still don’t understand what that’s about.
“analyze if it was possible for them to be entirely straight after experiencing such homo behaviours.”
AHHH, finally, now I get the point you’re trying to make. Look, it’s fine to have rants. I’m guilty of writing long posts myself. It’s not a biggie. People contribute to discussions.
@iraaa
“AHHH, finally, now I get the point you’re trying to make. Look, it’s fine to have rants. I’m guilty of writing long posts myself. It’s not a biggie. People contribute to discussions.”
I agree, discussion is what we do here, it’s why our list is so popular. People can have widely differing views and express them freely. I just am being made a little uncomfortable by this one at this point because people seem to be lingeringly taking umbrage when efforts have been made to make amends and apologize for ruffled feathers. So possibly, this is not a good topic to continue to have here. I also don’t want hurt feelings and sensibilities either–frankly they make me nervous… Many of us have strong opinions. We say how we feel and sometimes there’s fireworks as a result. It happens, but the prospect of escalating emotions is something I think most of us would like to avoid.
This is just a suggestion, of course, but if people think there’s more to say on this particular topic, perhaps they could exchange email addys and continue the discussion off-list? I’ve done that on several occasions in the past and it’s worked well.
Hmmmm a very interesting topic this is….
This fanservice thing has a very deep history and the psychology of it is even more so.
I am no expert but since living in Japan… (this is the country that practically invented fanservice and the so called mainstream yaoi/yuri phenomenon)… but don’t quote me on that… that is just my opinion… I have come to understand the need and the popularity of it.
Yaoi is totally catered for females while yuri is catered for men.
Perfect examples are idols in Japan. Take Johnny’s idols, they are campy and they are constantly showing “brotherly love” is is even more pronounced during concerts. Visual kei bands take it to the next level where they practically almost have sex on the stage. As for the yuri action that is for men… AKB48.. enough said…. dressed in skimpy nighties and feeding each other fruit on a bed and caressing each other on MVs and concerts…..
All of this is done to create an illusion/ fantasy for the fans.
Japan is very repressed emotionally…. you have to conform to society standards if you want to fit in and survive.
These extreme fanservice is to cater to the repressed emotions of the masses.
Take the yaoi fandom… it is popular because for one reason it is like a forbidden love thing… and another reason is that the love that is shown in the manga is very pure like…. and very much what the reader wants in his/her life. The usual boy/girl pairing is popular too but after talking to several yaoi fans … they say it is the thrill they get reading about forbidden love. Even though Japan is becoming more open about homosexuality… there is still some taboo attached to it.
Alot of people in Japan marry because it is expected of them to marry at a certain age and have children and a family. Many of these marriages are loveless/ for convenience or just simply stability for the future. There also alot of single people too and they are very lonely. So there is a big part missing emotionally. Alot of these people turn to manga, anime, boybands/girlbands to fill in their needs.
They look for things that are missing in their lives and they fantasize about “what ifs” and “I wish it was me” etc.
Same sex pairings are popular because they project this image of pure love that crosses boundaries/ the drama and angst of trying to get together/ the fighting of society standards to get together etc….
This appeals to the fans that are into these things. They prey on the fans emotional needs.
It is addictive to them because they feel the thrill and the rush of reading something “forbidden”.
Now reading it on paper or watching anime about has one thrill but watching real life people is a different matter all together.
When they see real life people fanservicing especially their favourite idols/ artists/ celebrity etc… it makes them feel one step closer to their ideal scenario/ dream/ life. It gives them an even bigger rush.
I can go on and on about the psychology of this but I think I will bore you with all the details….
I hope that this little insight can give you some understanding behind the fanservicing and the fans that ship it harcore.
That sounds a bit formal doesn’t it?!!! *hugs you*
I think the forbidden love aspect has always held huge appeal – look at the continued popularity of Jane Eyre & Wuthering Heights, Bollywood films featuring love stories between the castes, which in real life is still very taboo for many Indians. & the cliche of parents forcing their son into an arranged marriage in fan fics, preventing them from being with their one true love… It’s the Romeo & Juliet theme playing out all over again, only sometimes Juliet is Julio.
Yes I agree with you too and this forbidden love thing is really spread out to different cultures and countries. It has different casts but essentially the theme is the same.
This phenomenon is quite interesting isn’t it?
It is facinating to me……
That is why I can understand some what of the hardcore shippers in the fandom…..
Take for example within this fandom….. the dreaded HARDCORE YunJae fans…….. to a degree I totally understand their obsession… but when it spills into harassment of JJ and YH it kind of becomes criminal and wrong.
It is ok to fantasize but within your own world but when you hardcore push it to someone else and forcing it to someone else it becomes a real problem… it becomes a dangerous mental instability illusion… these fans will become too obsessed and their whole waking moment is dedicated in finding proof that this fantasy exists in real life and will do everything in their power to make their fantasy come true… it doesn’t matter to them if they hurt their favourite idol/ artists…. as long as they get the rush and the thrill and their fantasy come true… they will continue with their obsessive behaviour until it is achieved.
Now I am only saying to the HARDCORE YJ fans…. okay? Not the sensible ones….. I just want to make it clear…>.<
*huggles you again* I’ve missed you. How are you? I saw a scientist on Oprah! once, & I’m embarrassed to admit I can’t remember his name, or even his specific field, but his theory is that the job of our perception is to prove to us that whatever we believe is real, is real. So if you believe aliens exist, you’ll see all the accounts, “information”, pictures, etc as proof that aliens exist. Whereas if you’re a sceptic, you’ll look at the same accounts, information, pictures etc but instead see them as proof that aliens don’t exist. As I said, I’m so embarrassed that I don’t remember who he is, because it’s a theory I personally think is quite accurate – how we see the world around us does to a large extent both create our world & definietly our experiences in it.
As for these obsessive fans, they fascinate & yet freak me out a bit at the same time. There is this Cult of YunJae who shut themselves off from reality & repeatedly photoshop pics & re-write not just fanfics, but reality, to conform to their faith that YunJae was, is & forever will be real. I saw a spazz on SYC a while ago ( & thanks Dee for arousing my curiosity enough to go check it out – & yes that thanks is part ironic & part genuine!) that was really disturbing. They had posted pics of Jae & Yunho supposedly wearing the same clothes & using the same sunglasses & watches as proof that YunJae is real. Aside from the fact that some of the “matching items” actually didn’t match at all, the amount of comments, the impassioned enthusiasm/blind faith of those comments that YunJae is real, & the complete ignoring of reality & recent past & current events was really quite staggering. & very disturbing. Thankfully, most of them seemed to be very immature, teenagers at the most – I hope. (No offense to the very mature & smart teenagers & pre-teens we have here!)
I don’t believe there ever was a YunJae, but of course, I don’t know this for sure. Whether there was or not doesn’t affect one bit my love & respect for Jaejoong. But I really wish these hard core fans, both OT5er’s & YunJae stans, would wake up & accept reality, both for JYJ’s sakes, & their own. Pushing your fantasies & desires onto other people who have already made it very clear, repeatedly, that they don’t share those same fantasies & desires, is abusive behavior, & not healthy for either side.
Darn! When I said that there is this Cult of YunJae, I meant to say it’s like a cult, in that the hard core stans spurn reality, the outside world & anything that might disprove their beliefs, & vehemently believe that they & only they know the ‘real truth’, not that there is actually a Cult of YunJae. How scary would that be??? O_O
*huggles you again* I’ve missed you. How are you? I saw a scientist on Oprah! once, & I’m embarrassed to admit I can’t remember his name, or even his specific field, but his theory is that the job of our perception is to prove to us that whatever we believe is real, is real. ”
That is an interesting piece of information about the scientist’s theory!
I have to find out more about it….
And yes I agree with you are about the YJ thingy….. the delusion of some fans are quite disturbing as well as fascinating to observe.
I think deep down those fans have severe insecurities that drove them to become like that. For some reason, and don’t quote me on this… just my opinion…… out of all fandoms and couple shipping YJ seems to be the one with really hardcore delusional fans that won’t seem to let it go….. other fandoms of course have hardcore fans but it seems YJ is like the epitome of many people fantasies….>.<
I never got the whole YunJae fascination. To me Jae always looked closer to Chunnie, than anyone else. Not in a sexual or romantic sense, but their friendship & love for each other was always very obvious to me, more so than between Jae & Yunho. I sometimes feel that initially Jaejoong looked up to Yunho as his hyung, age aside, but that later he was sort of protective of him, cause Yunho seemed to lose his confidence. & as for Yunho being the penultimate good-looking Korean – different horses for different courses…
@lilibaiyu
Hi! *hugs* At this rate, I’ll be stealing that Notorious Homin Oppressor crown from you!! LOL
Yes Yes… for a while even I didn’t get the YJ obsession…. I think it became dominant because JJ and YH are total opposites… And that is the ultimate recipe for fanservice….
I think people like the idea of opposites attract syndrome…… it gives them a hope that maybe just meaybe it can happen to me as well….. like nothing is impossible kind of feeling…..
“Yes Yes… for a while even I didn’t get the YJ obsession…. I think it became dominant because JJ and YH are total opposites… And that is the ultimate recipe for fanservice….”
I wondered for a while what might have sparked the specific pairings, and I think it might be a couple things: first, age, and second, looks. If you look at the hardcore pairings it’s Yunho and Jaejoong, Yuchun and Junsu, and Changmin left out as the fifth wheel or paired with some other group’s person. Yunho and Jaejoong are the same age, Jaejoong (in the early days) had a “soft” look (long hair, pretty face, blah blah) and Yunho had/has a “hard” look (angular face, more severe haircut, blah blah) so they got set up as umma and appa, with the rest as the “kids” since they are all a few months younger. The same “dynamic” of soft and hard applies to Yuchun and Junsu. Changmin seems to be treated like the baby. now of course (in fact since the mirotic days), Jaejoong, even with his hair on the longer side (i miss that look soooo much), is far too masculine looking to be accurately cast in the umma role, but whatever, prolly was too late by then…
anyway, having said all that, though, I just canNOT get my mind wrapped around the people who actively and actually shove that crap in the respective people’s faces. I mean, I really don’t have a problem if someone wants to fantasize about stuff, whatever that’s your life if you want to spend it that way who am I to stop you, but it makes me quite angry when I see people with signs at events, or shouting the names at fanmeets, etc. At first I thought aw how cute (when I didn’t know the “full disclosure” about the last two years, and thought it was just about them being friends) but once I found out the details I was downright horrified, and I would never in a million years dream of doing something like that, and can’t understand people who do. I just think that the people that do these things are not mentally able to comprehend how much pain they are causing. for whatever reason. i pity them.
i do also wish that ~something~ would happen to make it a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y crystal clear that Yunho is NOT INTERESTED in associating with Jaejoong in any way, which would then pour icewater on all these delusions… and Jaejoong doesn’t say anything for whatever reason, but I doubt that will happen, since as I said both sides seem to want to “protect” (aka retain) the fans that subscribe to that… crap… at least that’s what I’m assuming.
Or it could just be that Jaejoong is too damn nice and well-brought-up for his own good and can’t just tell people to f*ck the hell off.
@Springbok7
“Or it could just be that Jaejoong is too damn nice and well-brought-up for his own good and can’t just tell people to f*ck the hell off.”
I guess I’ll just join the growing crowd who subscribes to this last theory of yours and I’ll share your opinion too. I wish he’d say something, I mean who knows? It might help. Then again, maybe not. These people can’t see the forest for the trees and more than anything else they want to believe what they believe. As a rule, you just can’t make much headway in an argument with such people.
I think Jaejoong is too nice & well brought up to say that! I mean can you even imagine it?? Sure, in his private life, but publicly? He is the epitome of good manners when it comes to the media, fans, even in touching on the blocking. He was obviously annoyed when KBS arbitrarily decided the Pierrot lyrics were a dig at LSM, but even then he remained calm & polite. But to my way of thinking, he has repeatedly made it clear that there is no YJ, & that JYJ are focusing on the present & their future as JYJ. As for keeping his mouth shut to keep the fans? I’m not sure. He’s smart enough to see the need for this, JYJ after all are still struggling against SM’s blocking, & without being able to promote freely, it’s tough for them to bring in new fans. I’m sure he’s more than smart enough to see this, but I’m not sure he’s calculated enough to do it – aka let people continue believing a lie cause it benefits him & JYJ in the long run.
Jaejoong is an Aquarian with 4 planets (a stellium) in Aquarius, all of them personal planets. This makes him an Aquarian plus, which means the characteristics of his sun sign are enhanced. Aquarius is all about personal freedom, individuality, having the freedom to live their life the way they want too, & granting that freedom to others too. Even though it affects him personally, he may not feel he has the right to tell other people what they can & can’t believe. Basically the Aquarian motto can be summed up as “Live & let live.”
Hello!!!
I believe the guy with the black cap is Daigo and the other guy is Akihide.
They are from a semi visual kei band called Breakerz.
Daigo san is the vocalist and Akihide san is the guitarist.
I don’t think that they are gay. In Japan it is normal for visual kei band members to kiss on stage as part of the hardcore fanservice thing…. >..<
*lesigh* my comment got cut….TT.TT
It is the same concept as Korea….
For example SuJu concerts….. Heechul or whatever his name is… goes running around the stage tonsil hockeying with other members… but that only happens in concerts and not anywhere else.
During visual kei concerts really lewd fanservice is done.
But outside of concerts it is really toned down.
I wonder, was Heechul the first one to do that though? Because the reactions in Korea was way OTT. It’s not like in Japan where it’s an accepted thing in J-rock/visual kei concerts.
He doesn’t always do it xDDD Plus, Heechul’s fanservice was way stronger back when they were promoting the Hanchul couple~ Tho he’s had some with TRAX’s Jungmo and Siwon.
@iraaa
Idk if he was the first, but I think what he likes is the extreme reaction; so he got it right. Boy may not be the best singer ever, but as entertainer you have to give it to him: he’s amazing at what he does ❤
I am almost certain that it is Daigo san….. I am not sure from which concert DVD it is from but the profile of him and Akihide san is very similar.
As for Heechul thingy I am not sure if he started it.. but this hardcore fanservice has been going on for ages in Japan, there have been many incidents during SuJu concerts where he will go around kissing members… as in kissing… not on the face but you know smack on the lips….
I think it is for the hardcore shippers and of course fanservice. Heechul is known for flamboyant behaviour and his inflated ego sooo he would do anything for attention.
eek that is the concept of fanservice what is that i can understand all the other things but kissing on lip wow straight guy go that far for fan service what is that??
Yeah, I’ve seen the clips. He kissed Sungmin, Siwon, Henry and Jungmo. But it’s probably not for hardcore shippers, cos fans rarely ship Heechul with any of those four except Siwon. But then, it’s Heechul. If he wants something scandalous for his solo performance, he’s gonna get it =)
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
“wow straight guy go that far for fan service what is that??”
I have no comments on Heechul’s actions, it was planned by him and he went through with it even after SM discouraged him. But if you’re talking about J-rock/Visual Kei bands doing it, well. I’m not one to say if lip-locking is taking things too far. On one hand, yes they’re playing off for fanservice. Fans love it to see band members’ interactions and show affection. They notice when members don’t get along or have tension. On the other hand, perhaps being onstage triggers a sense of freedom? There’s always been an underlying sensuality and rawness in their live performances, and when something happens (say, a kiss or a lick) it’s always unrehearsed and the band just rolls with it. And the audience just eats it up. When you’re in a gig/concert and you’re caught up in the natural high, you don’t stop to think, wait, this is wrong. You’re just, you know, expressing yourself. Sexuality doesn’t have to matter.
But these are all just my thoughts and observations. It may differ for other people.
@iraaa thank u fri now I can see what that is. I am just one year old in listening j pop k pop so I am like one year old kid wondering all the thing wow oh aww all around. I am the one that accept all sexuality I thought is better than lying and staying as who u don’t want. Nice talking with u fri
But I don’t want to see jyj lip kissing each other cheek kiss and other are ok for me but I don’t like when other people say they are gay eg in YouTube
hii … dari Jogja nii …
yeah .. happy to know a lot of Indonesian here ..
who is your bias? Me .. of course JYJ’s Kim Jaejoong .. but sometimes .. enggag .. sering malah .. Screaming like crazy for Junsu and Micky .. hahahha …
Mine is Jaejoong….all the time! I sometimes drooling after Yoochun & Junsu too, but whenever the three of them are together, my eyes go to Jaejoong mode, then I can look at the others.
I love Yoochun & Junsu so much too. Yoochun is so hot with playboy aura. Junsu is my cutie pie. He is so sweet and adorable.
Jogja is a nice city. Medan is so crowded and messy!
Helloww miaw! That’s awesome! K-pop bands will eventually end up in Jakarta. If JYJ is coming to Indonesia, I will have to start saving now. (Calculating mode)
ikut ,, ikut .. mulai nabung …..
OMG .. I always pray that someday I could go to JYJ concert … and if JYJ concert in Jakarta .. i will do anything so I could be there …. see u at The Venue 🙂
Eyang dari Yogya tapi akunya lahir di Jakarta. But my Indonesian reeeeally sucks at the moment. I can’t keep up with all of your slangs. It’s too foreign to me… strange eh.
Hello doubleJaeDee….Nice to know you. You don’t have to follow our slangs. And speaking Indonesian is not the best thing here. We do not want to confuse others, rite.
To others:
I apologise if we seem to boycott this topic. It was intentionally made. We are just too happy!
@JYJhidupGW,
I have no idea which part of Yogya they were born. But I visit her sometimes, when I was volunteering at Satunama. And you are from Yogya? Nice to meet you ^^ I am currently in Canada, little O-town. I’ll be here for a while actually, until I become Canadian. But I’ll be visiting my family in Hanoi this Christmas.
@Lely,
You are right, we should be speaking English here so everyone can understand. Plus, I usually learn a thing or two about cultures and tradition just by reading people’s conversations.
i know .. i know .. but yeah .. at least you have Indonesian blood 😀 ….
so how about JYJ fans in Canada .. are they really well known in Canada since worldtour? tell me ,.. tell me ..
@lely : i’m still try my best to write in English .. so forgive me to my poor English 🙂
me too…..i’m from Indonesia and i’m proud it’s….
Paris van Java…Bandung is my place….
aku senang ketemu fans indonesia disini…^^
ayo kita datangkan JYJ ke Indonesia….pray..pray…pray…
Hiya, Me from Indonesia Bdg too, sudah lama gabung tapi jarang nimbrung. aku juga harap JYJ ke Indonesia ,last time gagal nonton di sentul nyeselnya sampai sekarang.
gak ada matinya tuh emang mendoan…
doesn’t matter if it’s day or night, hot or rainy day, mendoan is always be our main menu…kekeke..
nice to know you^^
ayoo ayoooo … tapi setelah cancellation kemaren yaaa seems hard to make JYJ concert in Indonesia .. but never say never *JBmodeOn …. so what will gonna do then? make a flashmob? or ‘begging’ to Java Musikindo brings JYJ to Indonesia??
@JYJhidupGW
yeah you right….it’s a few difficult to bring JYJ in Indonesia after cancel in april ago….but it’s true never say never…*The Fray mode on (sorry but i dislike JB, lol)…..yeah we must do something….in i know Java Musikindo not to promoter KPOP artist,,,Java only promoter to hollywood artist,,, true??
i get info from my friend that they searching promoter who can bring JYJ to Indonesia and yesterday there are flasmob in Monas to bring DB5K….huh…confused….what must we do???? T_T
apa DB5K?? *mendadak naik darah … naah .. yg begini nii .. yg kadang bikin emosi .. oke lah yaa mereka emang DULU berlima tapi kan sekarang udah beda .. Di sini yg kita mau JYJ ya kaan .. (sorry mendadak emosi .. peace) .. Yeah how if we make flashmob only for JYJ ? it’s just first step .. so what promotor that capable and trusted to bring JYJ in Indonesia without cancellation ??
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
lol…so do i….confused…
many cassies can’t get that DB5K it’s not possible to be together now except if Homin out from SM….but i don’t know how to say it (affraid wrong)….you know how cassies in Indonesia and many cassies in our country dislike/hate JYJ fan’s (though not all cassies and there are some cassies love JYJ fan’s too)
@JYJhidupGW
yup we want JYJ only…. i always think that indo cassie5 is in delusional *sorry for cassie* how can it be to have db5k to indo….
kalo mo adain flashmob gimana dgn JYJ Fam yg ad di luar kota?
@chiecassie for JYJ
yup, aku aj susah bgt cari temen yg JYJ fans, paling banyak temen ku Elf malah, kalo pun ad yg cassie ehhh dianya cassie5
but i’m happy now to meet u all
naah .. yg gini ini lho yg bener2 bikin emosi .. Curhat yaaa .. sumpah deeh .. aku paling gag suka orang2 ngehubung2in Jeje sama yunho .. ye yunjae .. bete banget .. oke lah yaa aku gag tau dulu gimana tapi please .. kita ngomongin masa kini .. PRESENT .. NOW IT’S ONLY JYJ … please stop being delusional … why they cant accept the fact that no more DB5K and yunjae anymore .. Now it’s only JaeSu, YooShu, JaeChun JYJ lah .. JYJ … sigh .. calm down *saytomyself ..
yess … i have to admit that a lot of my friends are elf but okay .. it’s not a big deal .. we often make a fan war .. and I as JYJ stand always WIN .. hahahaa .. my friend always proud with Kyuhun … hahahaa .. and then start to compare him with my beloved JUNSU …. and we all know who’s the BEST right .. Yhe King of Asia JYJ’s JUnsu
sorry baru baless .. i gOT so much work to do in my office .. my twitter @TikaHardiyanti .. follow me dear .. mention and I’ll follow u back 🙂 …. okay let’s be twitter friend
@JYJhidupGW
calm down dear….hehheheh
yup come on we do something….flasmob???? yeah good idea but it’s must many people to follow in flasmob and we must can to confident many people specially promoter that we will come in JYJ concert (will buy tickets)….
come on we make plan…..hope and pray too…^^
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
lol….owh…cup…cup…cup…
don’t sad baby cause JYJ family always there for you in here (JYJ3),,,,damn it with problem cassies in our country…
you know i’m cassies old time but i’m move to be JYJ fan’s now because i know the truth of DB5K story after read Junshu twitt in 2010 and read a some news….i love jyj3 cause we all love JYJ in here….
welcome in heaven baby….welcome in our house jyj 3….
@JYJhidupGW
i agree with u…. its only JYJ now… we have to let go the past,stand in present and look to the future….
hahaha my friends Elf is very nice too, we respect each other choice ….
u have twit dear? coz i want to follow u, well although i’m using it much…
@chiecassie for JYJ
JYJ3 is my heaven right now. i look 4 this site everyday and everynight, sometimes drop a comment or just lurking/spazz for JYJ news
give me ur twitter 2 so we can spazz about JYJ together ^_^
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
yeah we are in heaven now…
nice to meet you in here…i get new friend with same country which love JYJ too…
you know i used twitter only for JYJ news and JYJ member update…lol (my twitter : @ChieOuten)
1) I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
2) People grow through experience if they meet life honestly and courageously. This is how character is built.
3) Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
4) Life is a series of experiences, each one of which makes us bigger, even though sometimes it is hard to realize this. For the world was built to develop character, and we must learn that the setbacks and grieves which we endure help us in our marching onward.
–> JYJ have enough character to bring them further and higher. (^_^)
Martin Luther King ♥ I wasn’t even born when he gave that speech containing the first quote, but I can still hear his voice, his whole being,resounding with such power, dignity & character.
Back when I was in secondary school (13-14 years, it seems like yesterday and it was 7 years ago D:), a teacher asked us to take to class sth that had impressed us sometime in our life, and I took that speech. Everybody got impressed by it too. It’s just… so admirable, he was such a wonderful man, and that speech is a precious thing.
For your number 1. I do that all the time but I have exceptions too.
I looked at Jaejoong and fell in love right away. I heard him singing after that, I fell more. I read things about him, I am now buried with all about Jaejoong….:)
Add 1 more quote for today. Just got it from my friend’s wedding invitation :
“a dream you dream alone is just a dream.. a dream you dream together is reality” – John Lennon ..
So, let’s dream together with JYJ, a concert or performed on TV or winning awards.. just dream with JYJ.. and maybe someday our dreams may become reality.. *hugs all of you.. saranghae..
Cute Chunnie to say good night to all of you <333 I have to wake up "early" today again to send some CVs and hopefully get a job this Christmas that will get me my In heaven album, lol ❤
Attention! Daebaksama is spamming the GAP. As as a relatively new JYJer, I am in awe sometimes seeing old pics of the boys. Gosh, they did a lot of work, and they are so beautiful, hot, smexy, dorky men. Here are a few present and past things that I like from twitter today:
Just being…. freaking awesome = NOT FAIR!!! Some of us need to sleep here. What with you & MINMIN posting all this goodness, that’s never going to happen!! 😀
yupp! & they seem to have great chemistry, the photo’s so intense ❤ I'd love if they at least became friends or sth, Internet can make wonders nowadays when it comes to friendship!
@Skye, get you cute behind to bed and to the dreamland, which I also need to do because is midnight here and either I will turn into a pumpkin….or I am late for work tomorrow…one or the other is doomed to happen, as I still want to catch up on some things on the internets…specifically JYJ3.
Gala’s got a boyfriend? Well, he wouldn’t stand a chance, I’m sure there’s more than one Chunsa that would defend Chunnie if he fell for Gala xDDDD Fangirls can be a dangerous thing!
OMG!!!
After watching this vid I clicked on the original one which was like 10 hours???!!!
You know when something is sooo bad that you can’t help yourself from watching it??
Well I literally sat there and watched like 20 mins of the vid of this guy LOLOLOLOLOLOLing ir LULULULULULUing or TRALALALALALALALALAing……
OMO OMO OMO!
I soo need to stop watching weird vids on youtube….>.<
Pheonixia just suggested on the applications post that we have games in JYJ3. Given @mizzyjyj501’s generosity is bringing us such fun, maybe those of us who have a little money to spare can buy extra of JYJ products when we can, (doesn’t need to be expensive) & we can have more comps like this. That way, those of us who don’t have the money to buy magazines, CD’s, etc can win some stuff. It’d be another cool way of sharing our love & support for JYJ & for each other. ^__^
I’ve got a JYJ poster I’m willing (okay maybe not that willingly) to part with. 😉 I’ve also got some Kim Hyun Joong stuff I won from The Face Shop I can give away. I know he’s not JYJ, but seeing as he’s BFFs with them….
ginger honey is supposed to be good too. chop up old ginger and boil it in just enough water to cover it, squeeze out and mix 1:1 with honey. It acts as a cough syrup and doesn’t have all the weird chemical crap commercial ones have….
Thank you, I’ll add onto my list some extra vit. C
i’m trying to aggressively hit this cold before it gets worse so I’ll be using lots of stuff recommended here.XD
Vitamin C! Have you tried any Essential Oils to help unblock your nose, soothe your chest & fight the cold? Eucalyptus Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Cedarwood Oil, Lime Oil are all good ones to use in a steam bath. Just add a few drops to a large bowl of hot water, hold your face over the bowl with a towel over your head for about 10 – 15 minutes & breathe in deeply.
Apart from medicines, my mom always says “drink a lot of water”, “drink orange juice”, “drink any kind of juice” when I have a cold ^___^ I hope you feel better soon 😀
Actually, drinking orange juice when you’re sick is not a good idea because it causes more mucus production. I know I was baffled when I found this out because my mom always told me to drink juice when I was sick too, but there’s something in juices and dairy that causes more mucus to be produced. So it’s not recommended to drink OJ or milk when you’re sick. Also, stay away from cold beverages.
I have another recommendation that is a little out there, but it has worked for me and countless others. Try snorting warm to lukewarm water up your nose….this can be painful, I’m not going to lie to you, but it works! I found this out when I was in nursing school and we were talking about the tea nettle (sp?)…..I forget what it’s called, but it’s basically a tiny teapot. What you do is you fill it up with water, tilt your head to the side and pour the water in one nostril and the water will pour out of the other nostril. What this does is it drains your sinuses. If it works right, your nose should start running for a little bit as all of the gunk in your sinuses get loosened and drained out of your sinuses. As for me, I do it the ghetto way and just snort water whenever I feel a cold or allergies coming on. It works for me, maybe it’ll work for you. Good luck!
@leahb518
“I have another recommendation that is a little out there, but it has worked for me and countless others. Try snorting warm to lukewarm water up your nose…”
My husband uses this method only just with a squeezy thing (like a miniature turkey baster) He puts a drop or two of eucalyptus oil and oregano oil and some kosher salt in the warm water too.
sleep is d best remedies actually.. i was being told by my lecturer that, d medicine jz works for 3,4 hr n then ur flu back again. i think u need to take a rest… ur body needs it…
p/s: did u all know that even doctor n pharmacists trying to avoid taking medicine even when they sick.. XDDD
About your last comment, I would think that’s common. They, of all people, would know that they need to take medicine cautiously and only as needed since there are side effects and drug-drug interactions. Most doctors and pharmacists don’t advocate taking medicine for everything… in fact, more and more are advising patients to just get lots of fluids and rest.
There’s actually no drugs available on the market that’s effective at killing off viruses (the best and only thing that we have is our own immune system) and abuse of antibacterials is becoming a problem (though not as big as some would have people believe). This is why people should take the drugs when it’s the only solution because most infections can be taken care of by our own bodies, given that you give it enough time, nutrients, and rest.
yeah…. in my county medicines like painkillers r being sell everywhere even in groceries =_=” they din know that d medicine will cause side effects.. like paracetamol we cant take more than 4g per day. if we exceed we will be overdose. some people went to icu for that… i went to visit oldfolks home n majority of them take d painkillers w/out their doctors permission…=_=””
@bmw81187,don’t forget to keep yourself warm enough,cover your neck,wear socks,and mitten when you go out side,(and your ears too,if you can…)-when you’re in the house just keep the socks ,drink warm water ,eat the hot foods only ,it’s the best,don’t eat or drink anything cold,ok…And the last thing,cross out any kind of food which cook with DUCK on your list” foods of the day.”. ….
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Get well soon,Sister…
..lemon (fresh juice from 1 lemon) +hony+water (not hot,but warm) 2 x per day..for me it’s usualy some 3 days of using such a formula and cold is going away..also room ventilation needs to be done more than usual,sleep,aaa forgot to mention cranberries ..
Thanks so much everyone!
I’m going to try the steam bath, ginger water, and the ginger and honey “syrup”. I’ll also keep the humidity up in my room.
THANKS AGAIN!
honestly …. i dont mind if he’s smoking .. I know that’s unhealthy ,, but he’s a Man .. maybe because in my house my Dad and my Brother smoke so it becomes usual thing for me ..
my bro’s too… d guys always smoke.. but i really3 wish chun stop smoking bcz he has asthma…for a person who has asthma to smoke is very harmful.. makes me worried bout him… ><
Hey Claudelle ♥, thank you for saying…..
Yoochun IS a grown man.
…and also known to be a private person—► having repeatedly requested that fans be courteous about said privacy…..yet here he is being filmed on the street, having a smoke…in an attempt to be a non-famous person just hanging out…..giving very obvious physical clues that he does not want to be approached. And well…..boom, another stalker video is born along with the attendant comments about his choices.
You can’t hear my *tone* so I may come across more harshly than I intend…..but, the gist is: JaeJoong & Yoochun are both big-drinkers and smokers….it’s not a secret…nor is it illegal. They’re young men in the entertainment biz and they’re actually stunningly CLEAN compared to the *norm*. How they choose to live ‘off-stage’ …isn’t anymore our business than who they’re having sex with….and we may be assured that they are doing that as well. (and that one includes tea-totaller Junsu)
I realize that in a forum everyone is free to make comments….and that’s why I’m adding mine. 🙂 …..grown men, do grown men things…even unhealthy things…..stalker vids…are stalker vids, both of which makes me shake my head.
@sally_b “They’re young men in the entertainment biz and they’re actually stunningly CLEAN compared to the *norm*. How they choose to live ‘off-stage’ …isn’t anymore our business than who they’re having sex with….and we may be assured that they are doing that as well. (and that one includes tea-totaller Junsu) ”
MTE. Although we are compelled to naturally voice our concern about their well-being, ultimately, there is a boundary concerning what they do with their private lives- much of which, is entirely up to their own choosing, be it more amorous encounters & who knows what else. It’s not really any of our business to meddle with or criticize. Now as for those stalker cams, it speaks volumes about the lack of consideration some people have for someone else’s privacy. If you really put them on a high pedestal as you claim, you would do well to respect their security & the like.
hey MinMin ❤ ….as I said in my post…you can’t hear my *tone* so it may have seemed more “scolding” than was intended. No offense to you at all, I assure you.
My reaction is based on Yoochun’s MANY public comments ….directly to fans (via twitter) …about being stalked on his personal time. This video clearly shows his discomfort and I actually applaud him for continuing to stand there and smoke-his-smoke…instead of trying to hide it or flick it to the ground. He’s on “Chun-time”….he should be able to scratch his (tiny) butt if he wants to …without being filmed then uploaded to youtube.
I understand *our collective curiousity*….and am also guilty of having watched the vid…though if I know beforehand I usually don’t. Yes…he has asthma…and that makes it doubly-deadly….but, I still stand by my conviction that adults make their own decisions and even world-famous people are entitled to make the same good-or-bad decisions that the general-population does. If this were a video of him flirting-up a girl in a club…I would have the same reaction.
Poor guys…they have over a million *mothers* worldwide…heheee. 😉
@MINMIN *hugs* Oh don’t worry about dear it MINMIN. I don’t this applies to you dear sis- you just brought up an interesting issue & we just responded with some input. It’s okay to worry about their health because I do too. We mean well. I am simply just saying there’s only so much we can do They probably do know that it is bad for their well-being, but that’s something they need to take care of by themselves personally . Is it is not really our place to tell them otherwise even though our intentions are well-met. And some people here were unhappy with the video because it looked like an intrusion of Yoochun’s private time & personal space. It’s not your fault MINMIN.
Many fans express their love through their concern & worry for the boys. It’s not a criticism, or really even a wish to control their lives, just an expression of their love, concern & worry for the boys health. So can we not jump on those fans who are voicing those concerns. We all know they are grown men who are living their life exactly the way they want too, which is what the majority of us want for them,but that doesn’t stop us worrying for them. My mum smokes. I hate it. I worry about her health, which contrary to what she stubbornly keeps insisting, is not great. I’m afraid I’m going to lose her early because she can’t/won’t stop smoking. But at the end of the day, I’ve had to accept she’s a grown woman who makes her own choices & I have to live with that & respect those choices. Which doesn’t stop me worrying about her, & frankly getting angry with her “sticking her head in the sand & continuously doing something that is damaging her health” behaviour.
In short, can we respect each other’s opinions & right to voice them, even when they differ with our own, & make the effort to understand where they are coming from? Please?
I agree with my sis Sapphie about the smoking. I don’t care particularly much if they are grown men, children, or 90 y/o elders, i will STILL adamantly be against any of them smoking. I’ve had far too many people disappear from my life thanks to that devil’s addiction, and I am known to hound anyone I care about to quit the damn things. So why should I change that attitude just cause it’s JYJ? LOL! It is just because I care and I don’t want to see them suffer and die by inches, like I’ve seen before.
Now on the topic of stalker-cams, I am deadset against them and won’t watch any of them, even airport ones. I know people have said “oh if they’re going some place for a concert it’s ok” but I don’t agree. Just cause you’re in a public place and just because you are passing thru for an official reason doesn’t mean all your time there is fair game. I travel for business too and I know I’d consider it very rude if someone was filming me at the airport. You wanna film at an official venue, fine, but airports, streets, etc, are not “official venues” and all activities in those areas are in my eyes “personal time”, and thus off-limits.
@Sapphire “In short, can we respect each other’s opinions & right to voice them, even when they differ with our own, & make the effort to understand where they are coming from? Please?”
This I believe this point here will always remain integral to promoting honest and productive discussions of JYJ3.net (& anywhere else outside this domain). Not always we will agree and sometimes we may passionately reject the views of another in favor of another’s for whatever personal reasons those might be. Nevertheless, it is healthy to disagree every so often as it welcomes different possible views to a situation. Overall, these discussions could be beneficial to our grasp of a broader view of any given circumstances. However, how we come across in explaining our opinions is very important to future peaceful conversations with others. I am guilty of this as well, but I think many of us could improve in more thoroughly detailing their views so that we may better understand as where we might be coming from. As I understand, there are naturally many avid and assertively opinionated ladies (and a few stray gentlemen) here, so it is expected that we would we come into contention at some point one way or another. But as you have also pointed out, we could also do our part in at least attempting to comprehend what the other party might be suggesting or saying in their thought process. Obviously, in a very sensitive environment such as this one, sometimes we must remember to step back & calm down before we enter the textual exchange so as not to inadvertently offend anyone.
@min min
@sally_b
“hey MinMin ❤ ….as I said in my post…you can’t hear my *tone* so it may have seemed more “scolding” than was intended. No offense to you at all, I assure you.”‘
Listen to sally_b, Min Min……. she knows what she’s talking about.
My take–the worst part of that video where The Chun was caught sucking on a butt was… the video.
As to your comment about the million hanky-wringing mothers of JYJ…… **gulp** heh heh…
ok,come on ,everybody ,I need a group hug here ,you made me got a heart attack here…..@sally_b @Ayame
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@Sapphire,Sister,did you sleep well ,last night?
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I actually didn’t sleep well at all, & ended up having a nightmare about a snake bite killing my cat. >.< I think I might move to Ireland… no snakes there!
@anva *hugs *
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@Sapphire,Sister,I thought you met him in your dream…*the biceps* ,Sister,remember…*_* ?
How come there was cat and snake ……, last night,huh?
@Myfriendspringbok7
“I’ve had far too many people disappear from my life thanks to that devil’s addiction, and I am known to hound anyone I care about to quit the damn things. So why should I change that attitude just cause it’s JYJ? LOL! It is just because I care and I don’t want to see them suffer and die by inches, like I’ve seen before.”
Me too. My Mom, most notably. I carefully tended her and watched as she literally strangled to death from emphysema and heart failure. It wasn’t pretty. In her era, EVERYONE smoked. It was just what you did while you were anxiously waiting to hear whether your husband was coming home from WWll or not. When all the evidence began to be presented she just could not kick the addiction no matter how hard she tried. I watched her die and I’m here to tell you it was just awful.
So it’s more than a little upsetting for me to see Yuchun, who has asthma on top of it, smoking. And as a singer myself, I know only too well what he is doing to his voice and in fact I can hear the effects already, as can many others here on JYJ3. But again, like springbok7, I draw the line at fancams and encroaching fans invading his privacy. I think they are wrong and I’ll never stop saying it.
No no, not IRELAND… move to HAWAII!! we have NO snakes at all here! And then we can drool over… umm I mean watch JYJ videos together 😀
@Lili, yeah, sometimes I think we should send those two boys videos on “the effects of smoking” along with a very passionate fan vid about why we really really really REALLY wish they’d quit. People think dying is for the old, but it ain’t so true when you’re a chimney stack, and it is not a pretty or pleasant way to go. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, let alone someone I actually like!
NO snakes in Hawaii?? & it’s warm & sunny too!! & we can drool… ahem, discuss, JYJ to our hearts content?! I’m on the next plane!!! Kawaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!
yup, yup, no snakes here! I’ll pick you up at the airport… just… please don’t be mad when you land in a rainstorm and it sticks around for next four days… cause… umm… we’re heading towards “winter”, that time of year where it rains non-stop for four months… sometimes… when we aren’t having “la nina” droughts… yah our weather is complicated… LOL!
I didn’t know that Hawaii got 4 months of rain… We used to have constant rain all throughout the winters, but the last few years it’s sunny nearly all winter = colder cause of the high sky, & mostly grey & overcast during summer. So yeah, I’m used to non-stop rain! Just don’t get flooded out!
@springbok7
“yup, yup, no snakes here! I’ll pick you up at the airport… just… please don’t be mad when you land in a rainstorm and it sticks around for next four days…”
OK, well I’ve thought it all over carefully and I’ve decided to move in with you. (I like rain. As long as you live in a house with heat, it’s cozy.) Expect me any time now.
Yeah, big island (the one i live on) is one of the wettest places in the world, we average ~250 inches of rain a year. We distinguish between summer and winter by how much rain we get lol. Summer is less rain, winter more. We got flooded in 2000 (2inches through the downstairs ugh) but have since taken staps to redirect water so it does not flow straight through our property off the main road LOL! Rock walls are a beautiful invention!!!
@Lili,
heat? HEAT?! OMG no thanks!!! Our temperatures range between high 70s in winter and mid 80s in summer (with ~100% humidity more often than we’d like LOL!) You’ll be far more likely to be begging for the air conditioner than the heater, believe me LOL!
I do love the rain though, there’s something so pleasurable to be curled up in bed with a good book, while the rain is pounding the iron roof so hard you can’t even talk to someone in the same room because of the noise.
@springbok7
“I do love the rain though, there’s something so pleasurable to be curled up in bed with a good book, while the rain is pounding the iron roof so hard you can’t even talk to someone in the same room because of the noise.”
I’m right with ya, soul sister. We’re going to make PERFECT roomates! lol
In other news, because you might not have grabbed my new favorite song yet, here it is….
I’ve just ordered a copy of Chunnie’s High Cut magazine, up for free to anyone who can win it. I’m too tired to suggest games or comps for it, but anyone else, leave your suggestions here, or we can do the same first person to claim gapp 5 times in a row comp, wins it! (After current gapp comp is over!)
This idea of games and give aways are awesome!!
I have an extra copy of JYJ’s The Beginning Album. The Limited edition one with the black box and serial number.
I was fighting for copies and I ordered from 3 separate websites, that and one of my friends wanted a copy.
So I bought 3 copies, one for me, one for my sister and one for my friend….. but when I received the copies my friend suddenly didn’t want the album anymore!! TT.TT so now I have an extra copy.
So if anyone can think up a great game or something I will put it up as the prize.
I don’t need 3 copies…TT.TT…
Sharing is caring!!! kekekekekekeke!!!
oh lol…just a suggestion…5 is good tho’…how about Maison + In Heaven = 10x in a row…
but then again High Cut mag was offered awhile back so after Maison we’ll have the High Cut up for grabs after…and then another cd..The Beginning (?).and still another cd offered…hmmmm…In Heaven’s goin’ to be stuck in my cabinet longer before it’ll be up for grabs..
.so scratch the 10x in a row…LOL…let’s stick with 5…
How about a trivia contest? Whoever is giving the prize away can come up with 10 or so questions and whoever can post it on GAP first with the correct answers wins. Or maybe the Admins can set up a separate post just for the contest. What do you guys think?
I can’t really get behind the fan art idea, although it’s a great idea, because I have no creative bone in my body. My stick figures are pathetic at best. 😦
My ideas for games:
1. I think the most creative JYJ picture with a quote along with it (are the called spazz posts?) should win ^^
Those are always amusing to see and look at.
2. Poem contest (or taking a previously written song and making it apply to JYJ)
(9mmleftshinki was awesome at these! Where did she go btw? I miss her humour TT__TT)
3. A video contest about why you loves JYJ (you don’t even have to show your face)
4. Taking a picture or something and writing a short fanfiction of it ^^
5. Taking a script and writing an amusing script based on it ^^(like K-fans do)
6. Writing the best heartfelt message to the adminnies for all their hard work contest
7. Coming up with the best strategy to support JYJ? (maybe an international volunteering club or something….I STILL REALLY WANT INTERNATIONAL JYJ FANS TO ORGANize something like this one day per city)
Thanks everyone for your input. I really like the idea of fan art comps, but it kinda sucks for people who don’t feel artistic enough to have a shot. @phoenixia I love your ideas, esp #1 & 6. (I miss 9mmleftshinki too.) So, since we’ve hit 15 million & the admins need more admins to cope with the traffic, I’ll give the copy of High Cut magazine away to whoever writes the best heartfelt message to the admins for all their hard work & dedication!
TVXQ is number 3, good for them too! But anyone know why Hanteo used the TVXQ5 picture instead of just HoMin?? Are they trolling on us or something?! LOL
singer awards are composed of past albums that is still charting. mirotic, rising sun and o is still charting. same with suju they used the pic with 13 members
Amazing that JYJ’s up there too, considering their discography’s way less than the top 3. Hyun Joong did great too, he only has 2 mini albums I think? He has a really great fanbase for a solo singer. I’ve been really impressed with his album sales and chart wins. Henecia’s awesome for supporting him.
so it means that TVXQ in hanteo charts is for TVXQ5 album such as Mirotic and JYJ album in the charts are for the three of them only….
ok… i dont know what to say, i’m happy for JYJ in charts but for TVXQ5 album *still a little confuse*…
possible if the beginning album charted this year, their total album sales for in heaven is 124k, while for singer awards the total is 158k. but i think 30k came from the sales from their mini album that was released last january.
I was reading some comments, and saw that TVXQ had 132 albums/singles. 132!!!???
So the 2011 sales number includes old and new releases by TVXQ5 and TVXQ2…. And you cannot really distinguish them. In contrast, JYJ’s number is purely of their new releases, without the benefit of the 2011 sales of the old TVXQ5 releases. Hmmph…
i think 170k out of 200k came from KYHD (normal, special and repack), the rest from mirotic album, rising sun and even their debut album charted this year.
i really want jyj to release a limited or special edition of in heaven with 2 new tracks to boost the album sales, soon snsd will surpass them in no.5 position if they release a repackaged album. if 350,000 sales will reflect in gaon, and if they decided to release a special edition it is possible to achieve 500k sales for in heaven 🙂
yeah…you right dear…
i hope Cjes will realease “In Heaven” in many version…C, D, E, F, a special edition or whatever,,,,so JYJ will to achieve 500k sales (i belive that)….lol 🙂
Three great guys,
Three great guys
Hear how they sing,
See how they act!
They all fight for freedom
With strong will and mind.
Who ever tries to stop them
Will lose the fight.
Did you ever see
Such a sight in your life
As three great guys?
@ Cathe, salamat.
Ang hirap talagang makahanap ng magandang employer pero makakahanap din ako.
Well anyway, another brand new day for all of us. Another day of putting our dreams into reality.
Let’s enjoy life! 😀
Hello! Missing everyone and all the comment-flooding I’ve been making with the posts. 😦 Uni is killing me! HUHU T_T
Anyway, did any of you lovelies purchase the 3hree Voices II DVD? How is it? D: I plan to order one, but I don’t know if it’s worth the really high price! Please tell me if it’s good!
@Cathe
If you want to preview it first, I have the english subbed files on my Megaupload folder. Let me know if you want the link k? You can tweet me at Golda518.
ugh, Idk what to do, I’m getting Yoochun’s High cut for a friend, but I want it myself. Problem is I have 15€ and it would cost me 11€, idk what to doooo. Money, why you no fall from the sky?! D:
Go, Unnie! You’ll get one definitely! ❤ You can ask money from your parents and just tell them you'll pay it back by washing the dishes or cleaning up their room. HAHA
I’m giving away a copy of Chunnie’s High Cut to whoever posts the best heartfelt message of thanks to our admins, (idea courtesy of @phoenixia), so start writing! ^____^
@Sapphire
“Well, they do say that abstinence is good for the soul. *looks at Jae’s NII camping pic* Umm… but maybe it’s not!!! ”
Abstinence is only good for the souls of people who haven’t had any in donkey’s years and are trying to ruin it for everyone else. For all you kids on the list: never let anyone talk you into abstinence. It’s about as bogus as The Golden Disc Awards.
@lilibaiyu This conversation reminds me about the little rejoinder a clever she-wolf said about abstinence when devouring some apples without restraint or regret: “Nothing was ever accomplished from abstinence.”
*note: The ‘wolf’ I am referring to is literally the fictional wolf goddess Holo from the Japanese light novel/anime/manga franchise by the name of ‘Spice & Wolf” for all you enthusiasts out there.
Even though I wouldn’t be surprised if Su was on a list like this, I’m wary of any polls that list their sources as Weibo (or Baidu.) A lot of them are usually fake. Either way, this was a cute read. xD Thanks for sharing!
Can you believe this?!
One self proclaim ot5 said she wanna slap Su coz he tweet ‘JYJ fans’ and not Cassiopeia?!!
And some ot5 are kicking a fuss because of this as well!
Oh, and did I mentioned she is a YJ fan too?!
Omg sun!
They are truly FAKE fans…. No, I should call them antis instead.
Stupid fools!
They should really get a life.
With ‘fans’ like these, who needs antis!!!!!!!
If you really love someone, would you do a thing to hurt them? NOOO …..
Really I dont understand this cassies or OT5 thing..
Dear cassies and OT5 : please wake up from your dream. TVXQ has become a history when junsu, jaejoong, and yuchun decided to break apart. TVXQ is 5 people right? is not 2 or 3 or 1? Now homin is taking their own path and uri JYJ is taking other path, they have separated. Dry your tears.. Stand up and see the reality. Let it go.. And get your inner peace. You have to start it someday, either now or .. Idk .. either way its over. get over it.
Sorry I’m ranting
My dear J2, yes. There’s a lot of buzz on twitter about this. And I agree, they’re not fans but antis or worst than antis I think. As you said, with fans like those who needs antis? Now I know why men think it’s very difficult to understand women behaviour cause now I am having a hard time trying to understand why are these sso called “fans” doing things to hurt the ones the claim to love. ¡UNBELIEVABLE!
wow….. it’s must one of stupid fans with their fiction and can’t to get the reality about JYJ now which JYJ is JYJ not DB5K again …(i think crazy fans) …lol
i glad Junchan write JYJ fan’s and i’m proud to be one of them… 🙂
Cassiopea who love the five members dbsk must realize that they are no longer known as cassiopea now they are just known as OT5 fans. Cassiopea and even bigeast name now belong to HM fans, SM already said that…sad but this is the reality.
Jae Chun Su now in JYJ of course they will call their fans as JYJ fans, if they are in dbsk then they will call their fans as cassiopea. can OT5 fans understand this? now they are JYJ.
I know but sad since SM and avex doing new recruitment cassie and bigeast just for HM now this true fans who love dbsk5 members just known as OT5 fans or if not they will still add the number five in cassiopea and bigeast name just like dbsk name so nobody is confused, feel like SM want to erase them and feel like they are not official anymore, sad. Anyway this is just my opinion ^^ .
@mjjejelove
“I know but sad since SM and avex doing new recruitment cassie and bigeast just for HM now this true fans who love dbsk5 members just known as OT5 fans or if not they will still add the number five in cassiopea”
Time to move on, my friend. That’s all a part of the past now. Hanging on to it isn’t going to change anything and it’s only making you miserable. There’s plenty to be happy about in the present, plenty to be excited and hopeful for in the future. It’s entirely your choice.
It is because they are living in a delusional world. Have you seen the banners on the OT5 sites that put the 5 of them together from current photos? I think that is really creating a false reality and keeps them in denial. Anyway, at least they support JYJ still. When they realize that this is for real, I’m not sure which way they will go – or should I say I think they won’t support them anymore. We need more JYJ3 fans before that happens.
i am an OT5, though i am JYJ biased, but all the things said here are kinda meh~~
there is nothing wrong if the OT5 still want to believe that maybe they can comeback together again! AKTF is what OT5 believe in!
the OT5 truly do love the 5 of them together! i know i do..but i do realize its almost impossible for them to reconcile..i support JYJ in their activities and i support HoMin in theirs..
i just want to say that lets not talk about OT5 or HoMin stans in these threads, because then the comments that are posted here are really used out of context in an anti JYJ forum! i have seen that and i have tried to defend JYJ3! i love JYJ3 because it truly is the best place i can get news related to my JYJ <3~~
also i don't think think there is anything wrong in calling JYJ fans as JYJ fans! su did the right thing! i support him!
i am sorry if i offended anyone here!
p.s. also please stop calling others fake! even though i want to smack the girl for saying something horrible about my su baby but please don't stoop to their level! its wrong to call someone fake! i have been called a fake for trying to voice out my opinion and it really hurts when your sincerity doesn't get through and you are misjudged!
I’ll call a spade a spade and in this case, a fake a fake!
How can one still proclaim her love for her idol when he just does not do or say what she wants to hear?
And I don’t see one single drop of sincerity in what she said and do I think she is misjudged!
Do not let your judgement be clouded just because you hold certain hopes for reunion.
Now I’m not saying that is wrong. I’m pointing finger at that particular fellow and those that holds the same thoughts, which is to blame Su for calling his fans JYJ fans.
We all have the right to have an opinion, but something is wrong when we begin to convince others that yours is the correct one no? Bashing JS on twitter just because he does not subscribe to your opinion any longer is truly “not right”
For this, my only opinion on this whole thing is that the boys have been giving signals and clues right, left, and center. Short of smacking us with a huge hammer on the head, we all know and understand LOUD and CLEAR where they belong now and where they are headed to.
YES!!! JYJ have been outright telling us in various ways exactly who they are now, where they are at & in which direction they are going. Jae himself has even said that his biggest goal now is to be loved as JYJ – how much more direct & obvious can he get?? *hands him a sledgehammer* They have been telling us for most of this year now, in various ways, some subtle, but becoming increasingly more obvious, that they are JYJ & they want us fans to love & accept for them for who they are now, not keep pining for the past. The OT5er’s who keep doing this & bashing the boys like this, are as much jailers as sm was – trying to force the boys to be who & what they want them to be, rather than loving & accepting them as they are. They are unfairly & selfishly putting pressure on JYJ, & also just making themselves miserable & angry. Let it go people, & let JYJ be JYJ. There is no greater gift than being loved, understood & accepted unconditionally for exactly who you are. In light of all the love & joy JYJ give us, is it too much to ask these hardcore OT5er’s to try & give them this love in return?
Dear Ms. Lili
I wholeheartedly agree. JYJ are in a happy place now, more than ever, so let us all wish those who truly love them will also be happy for them. For TVXQ5 fans, I do have nothing against Ot5ers who want to AKTF but just please do not shove it down our throats kay? moreso pressure JYJ about it. Leave em alone.
And for some reason, Ms lili while reading your reply, “Empty” suddenly cues in in my brain XD
“Jae himself has even said that his biggest goal now is to be loved as JYJ” >> true, I distinctly remember this from the interior magazine interview. How much more direct does he have to be?
LOL!! I thought my grey gravatar might have been at fault!!
Grrrr…. my g is failing – I have to keep going back & pressing the key extra hard to insert it into my comments in the appropriate places. I never realised how much I used the g before!
@Jan
“Short of smacking us with a huge hammer on the head, we all know and understand LOUD and CLEAR where they belong now and where they are headed to.””
True enough. ONLY the Willfully Blind can fail to notice after two years that JYJ is headed in one direction only and it it AWAY from SME and those who remain there. There will be no tearful reunions. No sentimental concert re-groupings. Those times that the OT5s still long for are OVER. It’s like really really hoping that the horseless carriage is going to make a come-back. It won’t.
for several months, i have been content with “no fandom name” status.. btw its freaking funny when a fans decided to physically or verbally hurt the one they worship? and btw of course we are JYJ fans, we could not be JYJ antis right ? except when the world is turned upside down..
don’t worry my dear Lynn
we are always be JYJ fans no matter what the other people called us
hmm….i’m gonna put my thought about these now
i always though why the names is always be so important and till bring some an argument ? it’s doesn’t matter if we called ourself a cassie or JYJ fans or JYJ families or JYJ nation or whatever it is because the only one that important is we (all of us) being in here because we love JYJ n try to support them despite all of us has a different background, different countries and etc right ? if u guys ask me what i’m gonna called myself then it was simple, the answer is i’m JYJ fans who really love my JYJ families in this site
heeey my beloved JYJ SISTERS !! ^__^ since its soulmate day i want to share this VD to show how much there realtionship is SO BIG !! and i really admire there friendship just like jaejoong and yuchun said they are perfect …..!! they r indeeeeed SOULMATE ..forever soulmate ^^\
after reading some comment about my lovely junchan tweet, suddenly i am having an urge to seek for the meaning of the word “fan (nouns)”. just for my references only…like i confessed before, my english is far from good so of course my interpretation may or may not be slightly off…correct me if i am wrong…
let me see,hemmmm…after reading a few articles and dictionary i have a rough idea about it and i’ll try to put it in JYJ Fan context…what i understand is a JYJ fan is
1. some one that devoted itself to follow and support JYJ in person and all their activities
2. some one that admired and inspired by the JYJ personalities and their achievement that strong enough to be influence in the way of thinking/action
3. some one that motivated to demonstrate their involvement with certain behaviours (posting online, concert attending, fan project ect)
hem….wah…i got all three check, so i think i can proudly and confidently announce myself as JYJ Fan.but i love to add more
~a JYJ fan always wish for the BEST for JYJ in person or as a group
~a JYJ fan always trying hard to be well informed and well equipped with proper skill in argument construtivismly
~a JYJ fan always trying hard not to be shallow minded/ obsssive person that think JYJ is without a flaws. he/she will embrace the flaws/mistakes with open heart and positive attitude that will allow JYJ to grow and expend
~a JYJ fan always trying hard to be considerate towards the haters and sympathise for their shortcomings….
~a JYJ fan even without formal name or emblam always trying hard to stay true to our unspoken vow to protect JYJ till the end
wahhhhhh…..what a long comment…sorry for being carried away… it just i can not understand how can a so-called fan ever think inflict pain toward my sweet junchan… it hurt me so much just to think about it… okey…take care and be good my fellow JYJ fans….
Ah, my dear @hodoh45, you nailed it! This is what fans are, and what they do. This is why we ALL are where we are, and others are where they are. And there’s no place else I’d rather be. 😉
@MINMIN….I need your smlies baby and @Sapphire too..OK I just want to ask you ( for fun) today my day is like this picture…….alot of monkeys climp up the tree, some on the top, some on the midle, some on the bottom….The monkey climp very top tree look down see all the smliing face but….. what did the very bottom monkey see when he look up?????
@anva,Sister, good night ,have a sweet dream tonight,Sis.Everything will be Ok tomorrow,just get a good sleep tonight,ok .Hey,JJ with “I’LL PROTECT YOU ” will get you sleep well..
*hugs *
I AM SOOOO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!! I CONVINCED MY UNNIE TO BUY ME “THEIR ROOMS” FOR MY BIRTHDAY!!! 😀
i have already ordered it!!! cant wait to get it!! *proud owner of “in heaven” already*
I don’t really know what they think of college. I just know some fact that: Junsu and Yunho attended the same university, Yoochun and Changmin another one. All of them seem to study the same major – art of performance. Only Jaejoong said in an interview that he hadn’t decide to follow to college or not. I personally think Jaejoong quite practically think about what he can learn than what certificate he’s gonna get. I heard he dropped out of highchool during time he was training at SME, and I am not even sure if he finished it later yet
from what i knew it’s true that Jaejoong has dropped out from high school but after their debut, i heard that he continued till graduated together with Yoochun
is that true that Yoochun also continued his study to the college ? sorry if i’m mistake
yes, he attended the same university with Changmin, but I doubt any of them finished their study. Only Changmin was recently reported to be at his college. You know college to Korean male celebrities is most likely to one of the excuse to delay going to army so normally they drag their study as long as possible. I said that just in general, I don’t mean nor imply that any of them are trying to dodge.
Last I heard, Yunho and Junsu are in Myeongji, Changmin and Yoochun are in Kyunghee. Last year(?) Yunho mentioned that he’s a senior in college and thinking about graduate school so I’d assume Junsu would have graduated by now if it’s the same but there hasn’t been news about any graduations. The only one seen on campus recently is Changmin going to his mid terms. Jaejoong’s the only one who didn’t enrol in college. Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Jae’s choice, college isn’t for everyone. My friend tried it for a semester, didn’t like it so he dropped out and now he’s earning big bucks.
Jaejoong dropped out of high school initially but finished his high school diploma after debut. Yoochun enrolled into Junsu’s school and graduated together, if I’m not mistaken.
@braveviet
I think that excuse only applied to Rain LOL. With the amount of time he dragged on he could’ve entered the army and be back out by now.
I’m rather glad that Jaejoong didn’t go to college. It definitely hasn’t backfired on his career, & he has a unique way of thinking & seeing that world, that formal education can sometimes stifle.
haii .. i’m back … Had just read all comment above about baby Junsu’s tweet .. Junsu said : JYJ FANS DO BETTER~ YUP …. This .. JYJ FANS .. Junsu said by his own tweet …. why people get mad of this? sigh …..
out of topic .. JYJ In Heaven is #1 in K-pop chart Derings TransTv ( Derings is a music program that every wednesday presenting Kpop chart and TransTv is one one national Tv in Indonesia ) .. exactly I dont see it by my own eyes . my friend told me this morning .. and she said Derings aired In Heaven MV .. woooaaa ,,…..
you mean 218,367 .
albums sales on Goan chart (but without repackage) so far:
suju 329,035
tvxq 244,128
snsd 227.994
jyj 218,367
here is the link for Goan chart: http://www.gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/album/list.gaon
click on 월간 for monthly sales.
Actually maybe CjES is right…. If you add hanteo and Gaon together you get around 350K…..
Also isn’t 350K the number of CD shipped out not the number that was bought?
This was written by a critic in around ’06 but has recently resurfaced and been circulated around Chinese webs.
Originally I had intended to write this at a different time. I still have uncertainties in terms of Jaejoong’s pronunciation and breathing.
I want to fully describe and explain the qualities of Jaejoong’s voice and singing before discussing the content below.
Ah this boy Kim Jaejoong never gives me time, he’s always putting me in a rush. I can’t sit still until I write about how great he is.
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I’ve noticed lots of people discussing the different versions of ‘Insa’ and ‘Footsteps’ (Bal geol eum) circulating around the internet, but I’ve not paid much attention to it because I wanted to listen to a more refined version of it before coming to any conclusions. (Also it’s because I strongly dislike listening to audio tracks of bad quality) I waited patiently for the official release.
The reason I tell Jaejoong fans that they should be proud of Kim Jaejoong is because most singers have a shake foundation in terms of their technique and yet Jaejoong’s singing is simply impeccable. His singing is effortless and it is almost regretful that most people are unable to truly grasp how wonderful and amazing he is as a performer. (Unfortunately, this cannot be helped because most people do not understand what it means to be a good singer and it is not a concept that can be realized without first hand experience)
If you think it through carefully, you’ll see that Jaejoong has a natural gift, where others may struggle in singing the same song, he is able to accomplish it without much difficulty.
So who is it that has the true talent? Is it really those who sing so loud that they cough up blood?
Up until now, I do not have a proper explanation for this, yet Jaejoong’s existence has compelled me to look into this matter.
If a simple and mellow song is not sung properly, it may be considered weak.
Songs that require such a great deal of emotion require the performer to lose themselves into the music and this is much harder than one might think.
The emotion behind Whitney Houston’s R&B music is clear and highly conspicuous.
If you look at Yoonsang (Korean singer, composer and producer), his charisma draws the audience’s attention to the song itself. In order to feel the full power of the song, one must listen from beginning to end.
Jaejoong is an artist who understands pitch, rhythm and harmony. If Jaejoong were an artist, he’d first consider the problem of framing is finished piece because a good painter knows that the frame can also impact the outcome of the final piece.
Jaejoong completely understands the song.
He is able to seamlessly combine his own voice with the music, and by the end of it, instead of wondering which verse it was that he performed the best or admiring his flawless delivery, we are left reminiscing about the past; why did we break up with so and so? How are they doing? Has that person forgotten about me? Those were the best days of my life’ etc. His voice reaches the very bottom of our hearts, awakening memories and emotions that we’ve long buried away. The kind of feeling is not that of wildness; it has a comforting effect, liberating us from any torment we may have been enduring.
I’m extremely touched by this song, not because Jaejoong did a good job sing it,
but because listening to the song makes me forget that he’s the person who sung it.
Listening to this song helps me heal and relieves the pain that has been tormenting me. In a split second, I can feel tears welling up in my eyes but I don’t want them to fall.
Allowing the listener to really immerse themselves in his voice, putting them on a roller-coaster ride of emotions. Somebody without a high sense of understanding and vulnerability could not possibly achieve that. It’s like when the audience sheds tears from seeing the actors laugh.
The above are the initial thoughts that came into mind when I heard the song. Jaejoong, young as he is, found a way to elevate the song to such a level, creating a perfect masterpiece. He has the skill of a true artist, using not only previous knowledge and skill, but also adjusting his own mindset and changing his delivery according to the song.
SM artists tend to be good dancers and singers, yet more often than not, they change their style and singing technique according to the public’s taste and interest. It is undeniable that Jaejoong is full of potential, I used to worry that he wouldn’t be able to break free of his constraints, but it seems as though this is unnecessary since, as we all know, he is now free.
Jaejoong has a very good understanding of how this song must be performed. It’s style as a whole is drastically different from what he is used to, yet he managed to pull it off effortlessly in the blink of an eye, so quickly that I almost didn’t have time to express my feelings of awe and amazement.
Being able to understand and really feel music does not only mean knowing how to perform a song, one must also be familiar with the characteristics of the piece.
It is not a matter of flaunting one’s singing ability, it is about helping the people who are watching the movie to immerse themselves in the scene and be moved by it. That is what music is.
Jaejoong achieved this by letting go of the mindset of normal singers and learning that it is not about drawing attention to the singer’s ability. He was true to the nature of the OST.
This song demands the singer to not only sing the song, but to also direct and conduct it. They must decide for themselves how far they wish to carry the character and this cannot be achieved without thorough knowledge and understanding.
One must learn the qualities of the OST and use their voices as though it were an instrument, this is a difficult concept to understand for those who have not experienced it for themselves. Nowadays, the ability of an artist is judged based on the high notes they are able to reach and how well their voices project, how many people are truly able to grasp such feelings and emotions?
How many singers are there out there who have this kind of talent? Jaejoong’s talent has truly rendered me speechless, how unfortunate would I have been if he hadn’t been the one to sing ‘Insa’?
Credits: TVXQBaidu
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Happy Wednesday, everyone!
OMO!!!
That’s funny. You didn’t even greet back to make it as quick as possible….hahaha. I always like yours and Skye & Shuheilove’s comments. I am from Indonesia. Internet connection in my city is so freaking fast I always missed the first 10 comments….:)
hi there Lely!!! ahahaha my internet connection kinda slows down at lunch time but these people are fast!!
I knew I’d lose today XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD BRB GONNA KILL MY INTERNET CONNECTION, IT TOOK FOREVER TO LOAD THE PAGE!!!!111
LOLL!!!! Nxt scenes censored !!
*hears sound of computer being kicked*
They better be censored! It’s gonna be BLOODY! NC17! Not suitable for sensitive people! XDDDDDDD
LOL!! I can seriously picture it out in my head,, ^____^
¡Hahahahaha! @Jen and @Skye lost the first place by a nose. LOL…. Hello sweet ladies.
@skye …LMAO!! love you girl!
lol <333
@Skye ,come here, I give you a hug,don’t be sad ,Sister…
awn, ❤ At least I will get some good sleep a couple of days 😥 then come back with renewed energy :DDD! LOL~
@Skye ,yeah, *hugs* ,Fighting….Sister..
>:) you totally have to do that! get some rest, get your sleep pattern sorted out, and then steal this away from me after 4 days HAHAHAH! that would be so freaking awesome if it happens like that 😀 (I have NO idea if i can even do this twice, not with you AND jen stalking too lol!)
sorry that last one was @Skye
P.S. @Skye, where’s your name from? The island?
@springbok7
hahaha, that would be funny, but it could be never ending if that kept happening XDDD
and, tbh, I took “Skye” from a model, Skye Stracke. I just loved it and since I’ve been using sky-related usernames for a while (I’m skiesareburnig at tumblr and pinkskiesinmars at twitter, i.e), I just thought It would fit and loved it ❤ I knew about the island later bc a friend told me, and it just added something more to the username. I love it, it's my fave from all the usernames I've had (and I've had A LOT xDDDD).
@Skye
Ahh i see, it was just funny cause I lived a bit south of the island Skye when I was a kid, so that is the first thing that pops in my head when I see your name…. though I confess my idiot fingers keep trying to type skype instead lol!
@springbok7
skype LOLOLOL, I had never thought of that possible confusion x________DDD
@Skye,
Well it’s sort of a given seeing as how I work in IT.. i get to play tech support w/my users and their skype for remote observations at the telescope I work for…. so it’s muscle reflex to type it already LOL! I swear every. single. time. I’ve typed your name i’ve had to go back and delete ‘p’ LOLOL!
lol…..you lose your place today….
where are you last time????
it’s funny if no see you in first comment in GAP because i know your life for GAP….*peace
LOL….
sorry i’m forget to write the name…my comment for @Skye ^^
XDDDDDDDD Actually, I started visiting GAPP not so long ago, but it’s so fun and all of you are great *-*
And I was too distracted stalking Yoochun’s pics and gifs and studying Korean and wtf, not really, just stalking Yoochun’s sexyness that I got slow!! 😦 looool.
:3
OMO, UNNIE! 😦 You still have tomorrow to start from scratch! Still proud of you!
Oopsie! That was for @Skye! Sorry, I hit the wrong Reply button.
Anyway, congratulations @springbok7! You ruined Skye’s long streak of being the first commenter! 😀 😉 hihi
Congrats on being 1st! ^_^
I’m sorry… I’m so bad. Today I tell hubby: i HAVE to be in front my compie AT 7!!!! and then GAP is over 10min late ROTFLMSO!!!!
@springbok7
Still ROFL!!!!
partly my fault why it was late LOL!!
@jenknight18 ,I’ll keep that secret for you ,or you want to give Skye another bigger hug….
@jenknight18
So close Jen!
@Jen
HAHAHA yeah I noticed that…. 😉
LOL! that’s cool…just greeting us a Happy Wednesday in such a cool way..!..happy happy me!..the game is still on…!
you’re 1st .. Dae to the Bak
Happy Wednesday to you and everyone else….:)
@all
ROFL!!!!
Congratulations Miranda! ^___^
Commiserations to Skye & Jen. I had my fingers crossed for you Skye! Just don’t kill your comp if you want another shot!
I’ve letting him live because I am literally unable to survive without my laptop, but ¬_¬ He will make up for this, HE WILL! XDDDD
I’ve let* Do I not know how to speak English anymore or what T_T
LOL!!! I love you Skye! ^_____^ Sleep well bb & dream of Chunnie, if Jen doesn’t sneak him out from under your nose!
I love you bb!!! (not in some awkward fanfic way..)
just make him play you JYJ vids all night to “help you sleep” 😉 LOLOL! it’s what I make my lappy do when she’s pissed me off >:|
@Sapphire @jenknight18
awwwwn, you’re all too nice *-* ilu too! ❤
ps. Nobody sneaks Chunnie out from me under my nose ¬__¬ At least not in my dreams x_DDDDDD IRL I would probably tie myself to his back or something just in case fangirls would try to take him from me xDDDD #obsessed, lol
@Skye
I’m thinking of gluing mine & Jae’s hand together – that way we’re stuck together, literally, but we still get to keep one hand free for other…. interesting… stuff!!! 😉
OH NOES! D8 SKYE LOST!! LOLOLOL
congratz…. LOL. u girls r funny.. XDD
I have been lurking :3
Congrats springbok7! Good Wednesday to you. It’s still Tues. on my side.
still tuesday for me too lol! will be for another 4.5 hours too LOL!
Happy Wednesday jyj family…hi. It become very much addictive waiting who will be first…we stand as audiences. This is fun funny…love you girls. Congrats…..@Skye don’t kill that comp. And @Jen…I know..smiling…. Danke.
@Audi.. Danke!!
aahh… @Skye.. I feel u .. 😀
Conratz on being first!!!
Whoa… Skye just throw your comp to me, don’t kill it!
@Mizzy,
the Maison copy is still up for grab…!!! i’ll be waiting for the turn of In heaven Black version.
@vhonz
i was praying hard yesterday someone would break @skye’s streak…but now High Cut mag, a The Begnning cd, another JYJ cd, and yet another cd are up for grabs! JYJers are sooooo great sharing all these..
so i guess you’ll have to wait a little bit longer for In Heaven…kekekeke…
its okay, patience is one of the things that I learned from JYJ… most likely, waiting in vain… LOL
😀
hahaha, you wouldn’t do much with my laptop, tbh, poor thing’s old and trashy xDDDDD idk how she survives anymore, but I do not have the money to get another one xD
@springbok17
Happy Wednesday to you too, and everyone else. I’m having too much fun watching the chase for the brass ring. 🙂 Thank goodness I have to go to bed and get some rest for work! 😉 I’ll be happy with my random luck on the weekends.
This is for everyone, no matter where you are, or the time of day, hope your day is a good one…
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.”
– Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Nothing is impossible, the word itself says “I’m possible”!”
– Audrey Hepburn
“The more you take responsibility for your past and present, the more you are able to create the future you seek.”
– Author Unknown
“We are all a little weird and life’s a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.”
– Dr. Seuss
“Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.”
– Author Unknown
“Your work is to discover your world and then with all your heart give yourself to it.”
– Buddha
PEACE
“To create more positive results in your life, replace ‘if only’ with ‘next time’.”
– Author Unknown
hi BAF sis. “Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.” that is why i never regret of my straight forward personality whatever other people say or think
@BAF
Thanks for these wise quotes my sister. 🙂
Mummy-hen
Love, love, love all of these quotes. Thank you. *big hug*
To my sisters, glad to be part of the positive energy of this site, and fan family. Let’s just keep on keeping on. 🙂 This is what we have to offer the guys. Lots of love, support, and positive caring. We’ll help them get through anything! 😉
😀
u always say u r gonna sleep and u go commenting replying. sleep well skye
I am the worst thing ever, I know ;____; Should’ve gone to bed when I said I would, it’s taken me forever to wake up today 😦
OMO, UNNIE! You still have tomorrow to start from scratch! Still proud of you!
I KNOW! But I think I will wait a couple of days and sleep today, lol! ❤
Now that’s better! You’ve been sleeping late a lot! You better fix your sleeping patterns! 🙂
Hello my fellow JYJers!! I hope you all have a great day!
hello .. hello …
@leah518
@JYJhidupGw
Hi 😀
¡Hello my dear!
Hello *waves*
waaaaaaaaaaahh!!! record broken!
Am I the 1st 1 ? Hi Mia & Jen!!
hi baby,, i doubt you’ll be first.. people here are professional stalkers..
Hi Jen !! You were fast!! Hello JYJers of JYJ3 ..
Hello sweetie~ And Jen and the JYJ ladies and gentleman here!
Hello my beloved @Della @Shadow and @Jen
hello my dear @Della @Shadow and @Jen @shuheilove also all of ladies and gentleman in JYJ3
¡@Miaw! ¡Baby! Hugs you my dear. I’ve missed you badly sweetie.
@miaw,hello,hello
Hey shadow, Jen, Della, Shuhei, miaw, and all the ‘rare’ fanboys in their hideouts, lurking hehe
@Della @shuheilove @Shadow, hello hello all of my sisters ………………..
@Minmin, @DoubleJaeDee So nice to greet you today 🙂
Hello All !!! J1, J2, Shuhei, Miaw, MINMIN & Dee…LOL …Happy to see you all here…
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii …… i’m late
this is fun kekeke
BTW, THOSE GIFS. CHUN, THAT HAIR. ILU, BB. I LOVE THAT HAIR TOO. <333
@Skye
You were too busy floating on a Chunnie high!!! Concentrate girl, concentrate!!!
You bet! I can’t concentrate on my ninja skills if Yoochun is there being a GOD! Yoochun, you boy, I know you’d rather have me fighting to get a copy of High Cut, but Jae and his home deserve some love too, you know? 😦
This is random but maybe someone can help me with this: I want to know who are this guys. Maybe @Jen or @Brat9 or @ckino could know…… ¿Where are you my dears?
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so sorry, this gay guys
Two guys?! The other one looked like a girl O____O
Nope, they’re both guys @doubleJaeDee
That looks like Miyavi, but not 100% sure….
The other guy looks like a member of the band lol
¡OMGS!! If that happens to be as you say @bmw81187, I will faint for sure. ¡I’m terrified!
o wait, now looking at the other GIFs you posted, its not him.XD
¡Phew!!!!! Thanks dear….
@shuheilove
Are you sure they’re gay? I’m not too familiar with who’s who in J-rock bands, but they’ve always had kiss performances during their live shows. It’s part of their fanservice.
@Iraaa @Kementari
Hello sweet ladies. Thanks a lot for enlightening me on this. Well, here comes another rant. Certainly I’m not sure if they are gay (I tend to think they might be bisexual ) but show this to any westerner who doesn’t know about “visual keys” and “fan services” (95% of the population at least) and ask him/her what he/she thinks, and the answer will be for sure: ¡They are gays! It is not so easy for a westerner to come accustomed to this kind of behaviours. @Kementari says that this is a “hard core” kind of fan service; well, it’s obvious it is hard core. The way this guy is kissing the other is like if he wanted to suck the other’s soul out of his body and swallow it. Delicious to be kissed like this by a man, but to witness two men kissing like this, well…..that is completely different. I’ve been dealing with fan services for a decent amount of time by know, since I decided to follow some J-pop artists who I like; Gackt and Hyde for example. Btw, these two “gave life” to a similar story last year during Gackt’s birthday, when they met at the place where the party was being held, and after some drinks and all of a sudden they began to kiss ardently each other in front of the guests and the journalists present. Fortunately, their lawyers were able to settle an arrangement with the press and the guests to keep this incident locked and buried. The thing is, yes, this kind of behaviours are accepted among japanese society (who had thought about that in the past, being them so strict about everything) but how true is the fact that these men are straight in their normal lifes and they keep this only to please their fans? (Strange way for a man to please a woman kissing and flirting with another man). ¡Come on! These kind of experiences have their effects on the people who lives them. ¿What happened to dear Heath Ledger (R.I.P) after filming “Brokeback Mountain”? The ardent scenes with Jake Gyllenhaal made their effects and he had a hard time trying to recover from them, and obviously he couldn’t at all. So, how on earth are these men going to kiss like this in front of the entire world and then walk away like if nothing had happened? I can’t believe that; it’s almost impossible to be free of the remainings of such a behaviour. They like it or they don’t. If they don’t, they just stop doing it but if they like it, well, they will continue doing it everywhere and anytime, not only during their performances. This is what I think. These guys are playing with fire, and the one who plays with fire ends up burning.
@shuheilove
I’m sorry, but I have to COMPLETELY disagree on your point about Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal. Brokeback Mountain was a landmark performance for them both, and was critically acclaimed. What Heath Ledger battled afterwards was his depression due to pain of broken relationships and loss. I’m having a hard time understanding your view that he “can’t recover from ardent scenes with Jake Gyllenhaal”. Also, yes, Jake did have some rumours about him being gay after that, but he just brushed it off as “flattering if there’s a rumour of me being bisexual. That means I can play more roles”. Plenty of straight actors have played homosexual roles before. Rumours are something inevitable, but they die down.
“Delicious to be kissed like this by a man, but to witness two men kissing like this, well…..that is completely different.”
Doesn’t this suggest that you’re just uncomfortable with a homosexual act thrown into your face?
And might I point out that some Western bands do fanservice too? Just on different levels. Also, what about some girl-on-girl. Like hello, Madonna and Britney anyone?
Hi everybody. I mostly just watch what is going on here, but this topic draws me in. Can somebody help me understand the concept of fanservice in terms of these overtures of gayness. Why do girls who like guys want to see them kissing each other or in love with each other? I understand why gay guys would like to see that. If you like guys, don’t you want to see them liking girls? I really don’t get it. I always loved seeing DBSK/JYJ loving each other and being somewhat intimate with each other, but only as far as it suggests a very close relationship. When it crosses over into sexual overtones, it really leaves me cold. And then when I see the photoshopped photos passed around as real, it drives me nuts.
So, long story short, why do girls want to see guys even pretending to kiss each other or such things.
@Iraaa
Please, I’m not bashing or criticizing either Heath Ledger or Jake Gyllenhaal. You must have read or interpreted it the wrong way. My point has nothing to do with them both and I know the movie was acclaimed worldwide. I only used the hard time Heath had after filming the movie to illustrate my point, so sorry if I made you understand my point the wrong way. Please, I ask you kindly to read the post carefully after jumping to wrong conclusions. Thanks a lot.
¡Come on! I’m so sorry to have started a discussion about this “delicate” issue. I’m not an homophobic, but I don’t like to see couples (either homo or hetero) kissing ardently in front of my face or in front of my children’s face in a public place, but if they want to live and kiss each other like this in a place where this is proper, no problem at all.. If people here wants to understand it the wrong way, well, I can’t force them to understand that there are different points of views and different opinions and responsibilities, and those not always end in an homophobic statement. So please, just try to be tolerant. A parent can’t think the same way as a single person does, otherwise, where do our resposibility would be?
@Lisa
You can read my view on the J-rock/visual kei fanservice thing below. But on a more general note, I don’t know why they cater so much to what the fangirls want. And by they I mean the management companies of Korean and Japanese idol groups. Granted, their interactions on a normal basis are already close, but they always up the ante during concerts. The normally accepted reason is because the fangirls view them as theirs, and seeing their idols romancing girls ruins that illusion. But interactions between group members are accepted, tolerated, even encouraged/expected. Some fans have the view that it’s okay for their idols to date, just KEEP IT SECRET. Some ship pairings for fun, some believe that they’re totally in love, whatever it is, it’s the fans’ fantasies. Heck, some pairings even ship themselves! (Looking at you, EunHae and JongKey). You don’t even really need actual fanservice, slash pairings has been around for so long already with characters from movies, books etc. For me, it’s probably the same reasoning of shoujo/yaoi manga. It’s specifically marketed for girls/women. Gay men rarely go for these things because it’s NOT a reflection of reality. Most gay guys DON’T go for all this fluff, it’s a misconception if you think so. Women/ girls on the other hand buy into the romance of a “forbidden love”. Myself, I do ship some pairings but I do it purely for the fun of it. Also, some fanfiction writers are actually really talented, so I mostly read the stories (fiction=not real, unlike what some deluded people think) because it’s interesting.
Anyway, just to get another thought out there, what about the girl/girl pairings? There’s quite a lot of those too, only not as big as guy/guy.
¡Sigh! I only wanted to know who they were and to analyze if it was possible for them to be entirely straight after experiencing such homo behaviours. Please excuse me. That’s why I don’t like to write long rants, I have my bitter experience on them here and I don’t want it to repeat; never. So sorry. End of my post. 😦 😦
@shuheilove
I’ve actually read that comment many times in order to understand and formulate my answer. Again, based on your statement “I only used the hard time Heath had after filming the movie to illustrate my point, so sorry if I made you understand my point the wrong way.” what IS your point? From my understanding, you said that he had a hard time after filming the movie because he played a gay character and he couldn’t recover from the “effects”. And I refuted that.
And I do understand your later point about being a parent and shielding your children. I did after all mention that you’re uncomfortable with the homosexual act being in your face. It’s just in your earlier comment you didn’t mention your concern for your children and instead said “These guys are playing with fire, and the one who plays with fire ends up burning.” which I actually still don’t understand what that’s about.
@shuheilove
“analyze if it was possible for them to be entirely straight after experiencing such homo behaviours.”
AHHH, finally, now I get the point you’re trying to make. Look, it’s fine to have rants. I’m guilty of writing long posts myself. It’s not a biggie. People contribute to discussions.
@iraaa
“AHHH, finally, now I get the point you’re trying to make. Look, it’s fine to have rants. I’m guilty of writing long posts myself. It’s not a biggie. People contribute to discussions.”
I agree, discussion is what we do here, it’s why our list is so popular. People can have widely differing views and express them freely. I just am being made a little uncomfortable by this one at this point because people seem to be lingeringly taking umbrage when efforts have been made to make amends and apologize for ruffled feathers. So possibly, this is not a good topic to continue to have here. I also don’t want hurt feelings and sensibilities either–frankly they make me nervous… Many of us have strong opinions. We say how we feel and sometimes there’s fireworks as a result. It happens, but the prospect of escalating emotions is something I think most of us would like to avoid.
This is just a suggestion, of course, but if people think there’s more to say on this particular topic, perhaps they could exchange email addys and continue the discussion off-list? I’ve done that on several occasions in the past and it’s worked well.
🙂
@shuheilove, @iraaa, @Lisa
Hmmmm a very interesting topic this is….
This fanservice thing has a very deep history and the psychology of it is even more so.
I am no expert but since living in Japan… (this is the country that practically invented fanservice and the so called mainstream yaoi/yuri phenomenon)… but don’t quote me on that… that is just my opinion… I have come to understand the need and the popularity of it.
Yaoi is totally catered for females while yuri is catered for men.
Perfect examples are idols in Japan. Take Johnny’s idols, they are campy and they are constantly showing “brotherly love” is is even more pronounced during concerts. Visual kei bands take it to the next level where they practically almost have sex on the stage. As for the yuri action that is for men… AKB48.. enough said…. dressed in skimpy nighties and feeding each other fruit on a bed and caressing each other on MVs and concerts…..
All of this is done to create an illusion/ fantasy for the fans.
Japan is very repressed emotionally…. you have to conform to society standards if you want to fit in and survive.
These extreme fanservice is to cater to the repressed emotions of the masses.
Take the yaoi fandom… it is popular because for one reason it is like a forbidden love thing… and another reason is that the love that is shown in the manga is very pure like…. and very much what the reader wants in his/her life. The usual boy/girl pairing is popular too but after talking to several yaoi fans … they say it is the thrill they get reading about forbidden love. Even though Japan is becoming more open about homosexuality… there is still some taboo attached to it.
Alot of people in Japan marry because it is expected of them to marry at a certain age and have children and a family. Many of these marriages are loveless/ for convenience or just simply stability for the future. There also alot of single people too and they are very lonely. So there is a big part missing emotionally. Alot of these people turn to manga, anime, boybands/girlbands to fill in their needs.
They look for things that are missing in their lives and they fantasize about “what ifs” and “I wish it was me” etc.
Same sex pairings are popular because they project this image of pure love that crosses boundaries/ the drama and angst of trying to get together/ the fighting of society standards to get together etc….
This appeals to the fans that are into these things. They prey on the fans emotional needs.
It is addictive to them because they feel the thrill and the rush of reading something “forbidden”.
Now reading it on paper or watching anime about has one thrill but watching real life people is a different matter all together.
When they see real life people fanservicing especially their favourite idols/ artists/ celebrity etc… it makes them feel one step closer to their ideal scenario/ dream/ life. It gives them an even bigger rush.
I can go on and on about the psychology of this but I think I will bore you with all the details….
I hope that this little insight can give you some understanding behind the fanservicing and the fans that ship it harcore.
@kementari8
I like & agree with your analysis & summation.
That sounds a bit formal doesn’t it?!!! *hugs you*
I think the forbidden love aspect has always held huge appeal – look at the continued popularity of Jane Eyre & Wuthering Heights, Bollywood films featuring love stories between the castes, which in real life is still very taboo for many Indians. & the cliche of parents forcing their son into an arranged marriage in fan fics, preventing them from being with their one true love… It’s the Romeo & Juliet theme playing out all over again, only sometimes Juliet is Julio.
@Sapphire
Hey Hey!!!!
How are you???
Yes I agree with you too and this forbidden love thing is really spread out to different cultures and countries. It has different casts but essentially the theme is the same.
This phenomenon is quite interesting isn’t it?
It is facinating to me……
That is why I can understand some what of the hardcore shippers in the fandom…..
Take for example within this fandom….. the dreaded HARDCORE YunJae fans…….. to a degree I totally understand their obsession… but when it spills into harassment of JJ and YH it kind of becomes criminal and wrong.
It is ok to fantasize but within your own world but when you hardcore push it to someone else and forcing it to someone else it becomes a real problem… it becomes a dangerous mental instability illusion… these fans will become too obsessed and their whole waking moment is dedicated in finding proof that this fantasy exists in real life and will do everything in their power to make their fantasy come true… it doesn’t matter to them if they hurt their favourite idol/ artists…. as long as they get the rush and the thrill and their fantasy come true… they will continue with their obsessive behaviour until it is achieved.
Now I am only saying to the HARDCORE YJ fans…. okay? Not the sensible ones….. I just want to make it clear…>.<
@kementari8
*huggles you again* I’ve missed you. How are you? I saw a scientist on Oprah! once, & I’m embarrassed to admit I can’t remember his name, or even his specific field, but his theory is that the job of our perception is to prove to us that whatever we believe is real, is real. So if you believe aliens exist, you’ll see all the accounts, “information”, pictures, etc as proof that aliens exist. Whereas if you’re a sceptic, you’ll look at the same accounts, information, pictures etc but instead see them as proof that aliens don’t exist. As I said, I’m so embarrassed that I don’t remember who he is, because it’s a theory I personally think is quite accurate – how we see the world around us does to a large extent both create our world & definietly our experiences in it.
As for these obsessive fans, they fascinate & yet freak me out a bit at the same time. There is this Cult of YunJae who shut themselves off from reality & repeatedly photoshop pics & re-write not just fanfics, but reality, to conform to their faith that YunJae was, is & forever will be real. I saw a spazz on SYC a while ago ( & thanks Dee for arousing my curiosity enough to go check it out – & yes that thanks is part ironic & part genuine!) that was really disturbing. They had posted pics of Jae & Yunho supposedly wearing the same clothes & using the same sunglasses & watches as proof that YunJae is real. Aside from the fact that some of the “matching items” actually didn’t match at all, the amount of comments, the impassioned enthusiasm/blind faith of those comments that YunJae is real, & the complete ignoring of reality & recent past & current events was really quite staggering. & very disturbing. Thankfully, most of them seemed to be very immature, teenagers at the most – I hope. (No offense to the very mature & smart teenagers & pre-teens we have here!)
I don’t believe there ever was a YunJae, but of course, I don’t know this for sure. Whether there was or not doesn’t affect one bit my love & respect for Jaejoong. But I really wish these hard core fans, both OT5er’s & YunJae stans, would wake up & accept reality, both for JYJ’s sakes, & their own. Pushing your fantasies & desires onto other people who have already made it very clear, repeatedly, that they don’t share those same fantasies & desires, is abusive behavior, & not healthy for either side.
@kementari8
Darn! When I said that there is this Cult of YunJae, I meant to say it’s like a cult, in that the hard core stans spurn reality, the outside world & anything that might disprove their beliefs, & vehemently believe that they & only they know the ‘real truth’, not that there is actually a Cult of YunJae. How scary would that be??? O_O
@Sapphire
“kementari8
*huggles you again* I’ve missed you. How are you? I saw a scientist on Oprah! once, & I’m embarrassed to admit I can’t remember his name, or even his specific field, but his theory is that the job of our perception is to prove to us that whatever we believe is real, is real. ”
So true, so true, so true!! A++++++++ comment!
@Sapphire
That is an interesting piece of information about the scientist’s theory!
I have to find out more about it….
And yes I agree with you are about the YJ thingy….. the delusion of some fans are quite disturbing as well as fascinating to observe.
I think deep down those fans have severe insecurities that drove them to become like that. For some reason, and don’t quote me on this… just my opinion…… out of all fandoms and couple shipping YJ seems to be the one with really hardcore delusional fans that won’t seem to let it go….. other fandoms of course have hardcore fans but it seems YJ is like the epitome of many people fantasies….>.<
@kementari8
I never got the whole YunJae fascination. To me Jae always looked closer to Chunnie, than anyone else. Not in a sexual or romantic sense, but their friendship & love for each other was always very obvious to me, more so than between Jae & Yunho. I sometimes feel that initially Jaejoong looked up to Yunho as his hyung, age aside, but that later he was sort of protective of him, cause Yunho seemed to lose his confidence. & as for Yunho being the penultimate good-looking Korean – different horses for different courses…
@lilibaiyu
Hi! *hugs* At this rate, I’ll be stealing that Notorious Homin Oppressor crown from you!! LOL
@Sapphire
*squish squish you* kekekekekeke
Yes Yes… for a while even I didn’t get the YJ obsession…. I think it became dominant because JJ and YH are total opposites… And that is the ultimate recipe for fanservice….
I think people like the idea of opposites attract syndrome…… it gives them a hope that maybe just meaybe it can happen to me as well….. like nothing is impossible kind of feeling…..
@Lililbaiyu
*squishes you too!!!*
@keme, sapphie, et al,
“Yes Yes… for a while even I didn’t get the YJ obsession…. I think it became dominant because JJ and YH are total opposites… And that is the ultimate recipe for fanservice….”
I wondered for a while what might have sparked the specific pairings, and I think it might be a couple things: first, age, and second, looks. If you look at the hardcore pairings it’s Yunho and Jaejoong, Yuchun and Junsu, and Changmin left out as the fifth wheel or paired with some other group’s person. Yunho and Jaejoong are the same age, Jaejoong (in the early days) had a “soft” look (long hair, pretty face, blah blah) and Yunho had/has a “hard” look (angular face, more severe haircut, blah blah) so they got set up as umma and appa, with the rest as the “kids” since they are all a few months younger. The same “dynamic” of soft and hard applies to Yuchun and Junsu. Changmin seems to be treated like the baby. now of course (in fact since the mirotic days), Jaejoong, even with his hair on the longer side (i miss that look soooo much), is far too masculine looking to be accurately cast in the umma role, but whatever, prolly was too late by then…
anyway, having said all that, though, I just canNOT get my mind wrapped around the people who actively and actually shove that crap in the respective people’s faces. I mean, I really don’t have a problem if someone wants to fantasize about stuff, whatever that’s your life if you want to spend it that way who am I to stop you, but it makes me quite angry when I see people with signs at events, or shouting the names at fanmeets, etc. At first I thought aw how cute (when I didn’t know the “full disclosure” about the last two years, and thought it was just about them being friends) but once I found out the details I was downright horrified, and I would never in a million years dream of doing something like that, and can’t understand people who do. I just think that the people that do these things are not mentally able to comprehend how much pain they are causing. for whatever reason. i pity them.
i do also wish that ~something~ would happen to make it a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y crystal clear that Yunho is NOT INTERESTED in associating with Jaejoong in any way, which would then pour icewater on all these delusions… and Jaejoong doesn’t say anything for whatever reason, but I doubt that will happen, since as I said both sides seem to want to “protect” (aka retain) the fans that subscribe to that… crap… at least that’s what I’m assuming.
Or it could just be that Jaejoong is too damn nice and well-brought-up for his own good and can’t just tell people to f*ck the hell off.
@Springbok7
“Or it could just be that Jaejoong is too damn nice and well-brought-up for his own good and can’t just tell people to f*ck the hell off.”
I guess I’ll just join the growing crowd who subscribes to this last theory of yours and I’ll share your opinion too. I wish he’d say something, I mean who knows? It might help. Then again, maybe not. These people can’t see the forest for the trees and more than anything else they want to believe what they believe. As a rule, you just can’t make much headway in an argument with such people.
@springbok7
@lili
I think Jaejoong is too nice & well brought up to say that! I mean can you even imagine it?? Sure, in his private life, but publicly? He is the epitome of good manners when it comes to the media, fans, even in touching on the blocking. He was obviously annoyed when KBS arbitrarily decided the Pierrot lyrics were a dig at LSM, but even then he remained calm & polite. But to my way of thinking, he has repeatedly made it clear that there is no YJ, & that JYJ are focusing on the present & their future as JYJ. As for keeping his mouth shut to keep the fans? I’m not sure. He’s smart enough to see the need for this, JYJ after all are still struggling against SM’s blocking, & without being able to promote freely, it’s tough for them to bring in new fans. I’m sure he’s more than smart enough to see this, but I’m not sure he’s calculated enough to do it – aka let people continue believing a lie cause it benefits him & JYJ in the long run.
Jaejoong is an Aquarian with 4 planets (a stellium) in Aquarius, all of them personal planets. This makes him an Aquarian plus, which means the characteristics of his sun sign are enhanced. Aquarius is all about personal freedom, individuality, having the freedom to live their life the way they want too, & granting that freedom to others too. Even though it affects him personally, he may not feel he has the right to tell other people what they can & can’t believe. Basically the Aquarian motto can be summed up as “Live & let live.”
@shuheilove
Hello!!!
I believe the guy with the black cap is Daigo and the other guy is Akihide.
They are from a semi visual kei band called Breakerz.
Daigo san is the vocalist and Akihide san is the guitarist.
I don’t think that they are gay. In Japan it is normal for visual kei band members to kiss on stage as part of the hardcore fanservice thing…. >..<
*lesigh* my comment got cut….TT.TT
It is the same concept as Korea….
For example SuJu concerts….. Heechul or whatever his name is… goes running around the stage tonsil hockeying with other members… but that only happens in concerts and not anywhere else.
During visual kei concerts really lewd fanservice is done.
But outside of concerts it is really toned down.
I wonder, was Heechul the first one to do that though? Because the reactions in Korea was way OTT. It’s not like in Japan where it’s an accepted thing in J-rock/visual kei concerts.
@kementari8
He doesn’t always do it xDDD Plus, Heechul’s fanservice was way stronger back when they were promoting the Hanchul couple~ Tho he’s had some with TRAX’s Jungmo and Siwon.
@iraaa
Idk if he was the first, but I think what he likes is the extreme reaction; so he got it right. Boy may not be the best singer ever, but as entertainer you have to give it to him: he’s amazing at what he does ❤
@kementari8
Is that really Daigo? I can’t tell because of his hat. I love Daigo, he’s so good looking haha.
@iraaa
I am almost certain that it is Daigo san….. I am not sure from which concert DVD it is from but the profile of him and Akihide san is very similar.
As for Heechul thingy I am not sure if he started it.. but this hardcore fanservice has been going on for ages in Japan, there have been many incidents during SuJu concerts where he will go around kissing members… as in kissing… not on the face but you know smack on the lips….
I think it is for the hardcore shippers and of course fanservice. Heechul is known for flamboyant behaviour and his inflated ego sooo he would do anything for attention.
eek that is the concept of fanservice what is that i can understand all the other things but kissing on lip wow straight guy go that far for fan service what is that??
@kementari8
Yeah, I’ve seen the clips. He kissed Sungmin, Siwon, Henry and Jungmo. But it’s probably not for hardcore shippers, cos fans rarely ship Heechul with any of those four except Siwon. But then, it’s Heechul. If he wants something scandalous for his solo performance, he’s gonna get it =)
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
“wow straight guy go that far for fan service what is that??”
I have no comments on Heechul’s actions, it was planned by him and he went through with it even after SM discouraged him. But if you’re talking about J-rock/Visual Kei bands doing it, well. I’m not one to say if lip-locking is taking things too far. On one hand, yes they’re playing off for fanservice. Fans love it to see band members’ interactions and show affection. They notice when members don’t get along or have tension. On the other hand, perhaps being onstage triggers a sense of freedom? There’s always been an underlying sensuality and rawness in their live performances, and when something happens (say, a kiss or a lick) it’s always unrehearsed and the band just rolls with it. And the audience just eats it up. When you’re in a gig/concert and you’re caught up in the natural high, you don’t stop to think, wait, this is wrong. You’re just, you know, expressing yourself. Sexuality doesn’t have to matter.
But these are all just my thoughts and observations. It may differ for other people.
@iraaa thank u fri now I can see what that is. I am just one year old in listening j pop k pop so I am like one year old kid wondering all the thing wow oh aww all around. I am the one that accept all sexuality I thought is better than lying and staying as who u don’t want. Nice talking with u fri
But I don’t want to see jyj lip kissing each other cheek kiss and other are ok for me but I don’t like when other people say they are gay eg in YouTube
Feeling like reminiscing… gonna go watch the Tokyo Dome concert DVD!
And re-watching xmen videos :3
@Dee
Long time no see. *hugs* I’m about to go to bed.
Hey Sapphie, me misses you *huggles*
Have a good night and sweet dreams with JYJ. I’ll be going to bed too. ^^
*huggles you back*
Going to bed after watching Tokyo Dome?! Someone’s having sweet dreams tonight! 😉
@Dee,I missed you too
😀
@Sapphire,Sister,you’ve got yourself a goodnight *present* ,remember…?
Hey MINMIN doll, I’ve missed you too ^^.
@Dee , Have a goodnight and have a sweet dream,Sister…
Whoa. So awesome. An early glimpse of the MAGIC that is JYJ.
doubleJaeDee long time some see u know not no see but no share from u lately i miss your j pop share i like j pop
JYJ fans from Indonesia suaranya manaaaa??
Hi HidupGw, saya dari Medan.
It’s so good to have Indonesian fans here…:)
hii … dari Jogja nii …
yeah .. happy to know a lot of Indonesian here ..
who is your bias? Me .. of course JYJ’s Kim Jaejoong .. but sometimes .. enggag .. sering malah .. Screaming like crazy for Junsu and Micky .. hahahha …
Mine is Jaejoong….all the time! I sometimes drooling after Yoochun & Junsu too, but whenever the three of them are together, my eyes go to Jaejoong mode, then I can look at the others.
I love Yoochun & Junsu so much too. Yoochun is so hot with playboy aura. Junsu is my cutie pie. He is so sweet and adorable.
Jogja is a nice city. Medan is so crowded and messy!
yes did someone call me ? kekekekeke
ak dari Jakarta
haiiii …… wuaa .. makinn bnyakk …
Helloww miaw! That’s awesome! K-pop bands will eventually end up in Jakarta. If JYJ is coming to Indonesia, I will have to start saving now. (Calculating mode)
ikut ,, ikut .. mulai nabung …..
OMG .. I always pray that someday I could go to JYJ concert … and if JYJ concert in Jakarta .. i will do anything so I could be there …. see u at The Venue 🙂
start saving too, but then again aku pengen DVD Come On Over JYJ…
nabung buat dvd dulu deh hehehe
@JYJhidupGw: I still have to save for the trip and accommodation. I will love to see you there…:)
@Widya: 3 juta booo….Mending buat konsernya…hahaha. Kepingin sih kepingin, tapi bakalan gak diapprove beli DVD segitu mahal….
Eyang dari Yogya tapi akunya lahir di Jakarta. But my Indonesian reeeeally sucks at the moment. I can’t keep up with all of your slangs. It’s too foreign to me… strange eh.
where Jogja?
ooohh .. so where you live now??
Hello doubleJaeDee….Nice to know you. You don’t have to follow our slangs. And speaking Indonesian is not the best thing here. We do not want to confuse others, rite.
To others:
I apologise if we seem to boycott this topic. It was intentionally made. We are just too happy!
@JYJhidupGW,
I have no idea which part of Yogya they were born. But I visit her sometimes, when I was volunteering at Satunama. And you are from Yogya? Nice to meet you ^^ I am currently in Canada, little O-town. I’ll be here for a while actually, until I become Canadian. But I’ll be visiting my family in Hanoi this Christmas.
@Lely,
You are right, we should be speaking English here so everyone can understand. Plus, I usually learn a thing or two about cultures and tradition just by reading people’s conversations.
i know .. i know .. but yeah .. at least you have Indonesian blood 😀 ….
so how about JYJ fans in Canada .. are they really well known in Canada since worldtour? tell me ,.. tell me ..
@lely : i’m still try my best to write in English .. so forgive me to my poor English 🙂
me too…..i’m from Indonesia and i’m proud it’s….
Paris van Java…Bandung is my place….
aku senang ketemu fans indonesia disini…^^
ayo kita datangkan JYJ ke Indonesia….pray..pray…pray…
haiiiiii .. kumaha damang??
Hiya, Me from Indonesia Bdg too, sudah lama gabung tapi jarang nimbrung. aku juga harap JYJ ke Indonesia ,last time gagal nonton di sentul nyeselnya sampai sekarang.
hadiiirrr!!!!salam kenal…
dari purwokerto ni…hehehe….
glad to know that there is Indonesian here..
haiii ,, Purwokerto … tempe mendoan kayaknya enak nii .. ujan2 gitu kan hahaha ..
Yeaah ,, really2 happy so many Indonesian here
gak ada matinya tuh emang mendoan…
doesn’t matter if it’s day or night, hot or rainy day, mendoan is always be our main menu…kekeke..
nice to know you^^
hadir…..
saya tinggal di palembang….
owh my fellow indonesian JYJ family nice to see u all in here… ^_^
i’m desperate to find jyj family in my town
hai .. hai .. absen .. absen .. Really?? in palembang JYJ less popular????
palembang have a lot of suju fans, for the rest i’m not to sure…
JYJ family is very rare in here but maybe is just me who havent found it
i’m here………..
i’m from Indonesia too….
aku seneng bisa ketemu fans Indonesia disini…ayo kita datangkan JYJ ke Indonesia…^^
ayoo ayoooo … tapi setelah cancellation kemaren yaaa seems hard to make JYJ concert in Indonesia .. but never say never *JBmodeOn …. so what will gonna do then? make a flashmob? or ‘begging’ to Java Musikindo brings JYJ to Indonesia??
i think we need to find beter i mean much better organizer…
bikin petisi aja biar Javamusikindo mau mendatangkan JYJ ke Indo
*ups type error
i mean better organizer
@JYJhidupGW
yeah you right….it’s a few difficult to bring JYJ in Indonesia after cancel in april ago….but it’s true never say never…*The Fray mode on (sorry but i dislike JB, lol)…..yeah we must do something….in i know Java Musikindo not to promoter KPOP artist,,,Java only promoter to hollywood artist,,, true??
i get info from my friend that they searching promoter who can bring JYJ to Indonesia and yesterday there are flasmob in Monas to bring DB5K….huh…confused….what must we do???? T_T
bawa DB5K ke indo ??? bingung….. kayanya gak mungkin deh…
emang bisa bawa JYJ ama 2VXQ….
apa DB5K?? *mendadak naik darah … naah .. yg begini nii .. yg kadang bikin emosi .. oke lah yaa mereka emang DULU berlima tapi kan sekarang udah beda .. Di sini yg kita mau JYJ ya kaan .. (sorry mendadak emosi .. peace) .. Yeah how if we make flashmob only for JYJ ? it’s just first step .. so what promotor that capable and trusted to bring JYJ in Indonesia without cancellation ??
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
lol…so do i….confused…
many cassies can’t get that DB5K it’s not possible to be together now except if Homin out from SM….but i don’t know how to say it (affraid wrong)….you know how cassies in Indonesia and many cassies in our country dislike/hate JYJ fan’s (though not all cassies and there are some cassies love JYJ fan’s too)
look this link…
http://pinkrazy.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/vids-cassiopeia-indonesia-global-flashmob-day-di-monas-mirotic-day/
@JYJhidupGW
yup we want JYJ only…. i always think that indo cassie5 is in delusional *sorry for cassie* how can it be to have db5k to indo….
kalo mo adain flashmob gimana dgn JYJ Fam yg ad di luar kota?
@chiecassie for JYJ
yup, aku aj susah bgt cari temen yg JYJ fans, paling banyak temen ku Elf malah, kalo pun ad yg cassie ehhh dianya cassie5
but i’m happy now to meet u all
@Widya_4JYJ
@chiecassie for JYJ
naah .. yg gini ini lho yg bener2 bikin emosi .. Curhat yaaa .. sumpah deeh .. aku paling gag suka orang2 ngehubung2in Jeje sama yunho .. ye yunjae .. bete banget .. oke lah yaa aku gag tau dulu gimana tapi please .. kita ngomongin masa kini .. PRESENT .. NOW IT’S ONLY JYJ … please stop being delusional … why they cant accept the fact that no more DB5K and yunjae anymore .. Now it’s only JaeSu, YooShu, JaeChun JYJ lah .. JYJ … sigh .. calm down *saytomyself ..
yess … i have to admit that a lot of my friends are elf but okay .. it’s not a big deal .. we often make a fan war .. and I as JYJ stand always WIN .. hahahaa .. my friend always proud with Kyuhun … hahahaa .. and then start to compare him with my beloved JUNSU …. and we all know who’s the BEST right .. Yhe King of Asia JYJ’s JUnsu
sorry baru baless .. i gOT so much work to do in my office .. my twitter @TikaHardiyanti .. follow me dear .. mention and I’ll follow u back 🙂 …. okay let’s be twitter friend
@JYJhidupGW
calm down dear….hehheheh
yup come on we do something….flasmob???? yeah good idea but it’s must many people to follow in flasmob and we must can to confident many people specially promoter that we will come in JYJ concert (will buy tickets)….
come on we make plan…..hope and pray too…^^
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
lol….owh…cup…cup…cup…
don’t sad baby cause JYJ family always there for you in here (JYJ3),,,,damn it with problem cassies in our country…
you know i’m cassies old time but i’m move to be JYJ fan’s now because i know the truth of DB5K story after read Junshu twitt in 2010 and read a some news….i love jyj3 cause we all love JYJ in here….
welcome in heaven baby….welcome in our house jyj 3….
@JYJhidupGW
i agree with u…. its only JYJ now… we have to let go the past,stand in present and look to the future….
hahaha my friends Elf is very nice too, we respect each other choice ….
u have twit dear? coz i want to follow u, well although i’m using it much…
@chiecassie for JYJ
JYJ3 is my heaven right now. i look 4 this site everyday and everynight, sometimes drop a comment or just lurking/spazz for JYJ news
give me ur twitter 2 so we can spazz about JYJ together ^_^
@Widya_4JYJ (@widya_Indriani)
yeah we are in heaven now…
nice to meet you in here…i get new friend with same country which love JYJ too…
you know i used twitter only for JYJ news and JYJ member update…lol (my twitter : @ChieOuten)
yup wid jg jarang buka twitter cuma buat JYJ news aj…
follow me @TikaHardiyanti .. mention pasti aku follback hehehee
hai hai… aku dari Indo juga lhooo…
Malang van Java ^^
hwaaaaaaaaahh senengnya ketemu satu species,,, XD
WHAT??? bring DB5K to Indonesia??
I think its imposible..
I know Indonesian cassie is full of imagination >.<) *oupz sorry*
I love the Soulmates’ “perfect” hand-shake ^_________^
Quotes for today. 😀
1) I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
2) People grow through experience if they meet life honestly and courageously. This is how character is built.
3) Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
4) Life is a series of experiences, each one of which makes us bigger, even though sometimes it is hard to realize this. For the world was built to develop character, and we must learn that the setbacks and grieves which we endure help us in our marching onward.
–> JYJ have enough character to bring them further and higher. (^_^)
Martin Luther King ♥ I wasn’t even born when he gave that speech containing the first quote, but I can still hear his voice, his whole being,resounding with such power, dignity & character.
Back when I was in secondary school (13-14 years, it seems like yesterday and it was 7 years ago D:), a teacher asked us to take to class sth that had impressed us sometime in our life, and I took that speech. Everybody got impressed by it too. It’s just… so admirable, he was such a wonderful man, and that speech is a precious thing.
Yap, and doesn’t what he said makes him sound so much more handsome!?! Haha
Hi Shadow.
For your number 1. I do that all the time but I have exceptions too.
I looked at Jaejoong and fell in love right away. I heard him singing after that, I fell more. I read things about him, I am now buried with all about Jaejoong….:)
Cheers from Medan, Indonesia
i would like buried with Jaejoong by my side ^_^
Thanks for this wonderfdul quotes @mommy hen2 😉
3 & 4 pretty much represent what I try to follow in my own life. Nice quotes ❤
@shadow i like all the quote thank u
Add 1 more quote for today. Just got it from my friend’s wedding invitation :
“a dream you dream alone is just a dream.. a dream you dream together is reality” – John Lennon ..
So, let’s dream together with JYJ, a concert or performed on TV or winning awards.. just dream with JYJ.. and maybe someday our dreams may become reality.. *hugs all of you.. saranghae..
read from my timeline ,, Jeje takes foto for Magazine now .. wuaaaaaa
Idk how to put imgs here, so I’m gonna leave the link: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ludj51sRRi1r1jffro1_400.gif (credit: sleepyypanda @ tumblr)
Cute Chunnie to say good night to all of you <333 I have to wake up "early" today again to send some CVs and hopefully get a job this Christmas that will get me my In heaven album, lol ❤
Good luck with the CV’s & job hunting. 😀
Thank you 😀
@Skye, yup yup, good luck with that stuff. I will be wishing good karma your way for it!
Thaaanks :DDDD! ❤
Attention! Daebaksama is spamming the GAP. As as a relatively new JYJer, I am in awe sometimes seeing old pics of the boys. Gosh, they did a lot of work, and they are so beautiful, hot, smexy, dorky men. Here are a few present and past things that I like from twitter today:
The definition of hotness: http://spic.kr/4qGG
Hot dorky pimp:
http://twitpic.com/7capqd/full
So adorable:
Pimpchun at work:
Great chemistry there.
Just being…freaking awesome:
http://twitpic.com/7c13sq
Continuing to put us under the spell every time he breathes:
http://twitpic.com/6znkzk
Dorks at play:
http://twitpic.com/71adtg
If I was JaeJoong, I would also squiz the life out of JunSu…I can’t with these three.
Now, this fellow also has a follow of its own.
3 dorks? Angels? Devils?
http://twitpic.com/7cbnfu/full
The so adorable one……..Junsu totally reminded me of a hobbit from LOTR with that hair. Totally adorable ^0^
Killing me softly with your stare:
http://twitpic.com/7cbbwr
@daebaksama
I’m fixating on Chunnie’s hands. Like Jae I have a thing for hands…
@daebaksama
Just being…. freaking awesome = NOT FAIR!!! Some of us need to sleep here. What with you & MINMIN posting all this goodness, that’s never going to happen!! 😀
Junsu-ah, wake up, baby, let’s eat.
http://twitpic.com/4z00j1
@daebaksama ,thanks,I love the pic.,love the boy…………..
@daebaksama
vitamin A+++++++
Idk if I love you for posting this or hate you bc you’re doing it right when I’m going to sleep. What am I gonna dream now? XDDDDD
Btw, now that you’ve posted a gif of them… http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lubkwd2NY01qf10qso1_500.jpg
Kill me if you want, BUT I’M SHIPPING THEM SO HARD ;~~~; ❤
Chunnie looks sooooo good in that picture with the girl 8D 8D
yupp! & they seem to have great chemistry, the photo’s so intense ❤ I'd love if they at least became friends or sth, Internet can make wonders nowadays when it comes to friendship!
I wouldn’t doubt it, they’d become friends for sure ^___^ Maybe “something” else too keke 8D PimpChun FTW!!! 8D 8D
@Skye, get you cute behind to bed and to the dreamland, which I also need to do because is midnight here and either I will turn into a pumpkin….or I am late for work tomorrow…one or the other is doomed to happen, as I still want to catch up on some things on the internets…specifically JYJ3.
I’m not going to say what hour is where I live x____DD but yeah, I should totally go to bed, and so should you 🙂
Good night bb 😀
Oh no, the girl boyfriend will come after YC..
Gala’s got a boyfriend? Well, he wouldn’t stand a chance, I’m sure there’s more than one Chunsa that would defend Chunnie if he fell for Gala xDDDD Fangirls can be a dangerous thing!
Thanks daebaksama!
Waaaah that picture *-* ive never seen it before he looks good in that color I love that color its one of my faves TT TT TT
@daebaksama
The definition of hotness – So. True.
And SO HUGGABLE in that fuzzy sweater. I WANT!! (not the sweater, lol)
how i’m feeling rn:
😯 I’mma have nightmares tonight ._.
TROLOLOLOL~
@BMW……omo lmo…hahahaha…
sweetbabyshinki :O
OMG!!!
After watching this vid I clicked on the original one which was like 10 hours???!!!
You know when something is sooo bad that you can’t help yourself from watching it??
Well I literally sat there and watched like 20 mins of the vid of this guy LOLOLOLOLOLOLing ir LULULULULULUing or TRALALALALALALALALAing……
OMO OMO OMO!
I soo need to stop watching weird vids on youtube….>.<
Pheonixia just suggested on the applications post that we have games in JYJ3. Given @mizzyjyj501’s generosity is bringing us such fun, maybe those of us who have a little money to spare can buy extra of JYJ products when we can, (doesn’t need to be expensive) & we can have more comps like this. That way, those of us who don’t have the money to buy magazines, CD’s, etc can win some stuff. It’d be another cool way of sharing our love & support for JYJ & for each other. ^__^
I don’t think it’s about money, I think it’s a great way to interact more with each other ^___^
OOO i love this idea! it makes it even more fun to have this kind of competition happen too…
me likey! love love the fun we’re having on GAPP…acting like children trying to grab that rainbow colored lollipop first! go go go!
I’ve got a JYJ poster I’m willing (okay maybe not that willingly) to part with. 😉 I’ve also got some Kim Hyun Joong stuff I won from The Face Shop I can give away. I know he’s not JYJ, but seeing as he’s BFFs with them….
Does anyone know any really good natural remedies for a cold? My cold is kicking my butt in the worst way right about now .>.<
hot green tea with honey? A nice pot of chicken soup or ginseng porridge? And stay in the humidity, cold viruses thrive in dry environment.
Only one I can do rn is humidity. Its 1 am where I am so eating or drinking green tea is not a good idea.XD
ginger honey is supposed to be good too. chop up old ginger and boil it in just enough water to cover it, squeeze out and mix 1:1 with honey. It acts as a cough syrup and doesn’t have all the weird chemical crap commercial ones have….
Ooh, that appeals to me. I’m gonna ask my mom to grab some ginger tomorrow.
Thank you~
Or lots of garlic! lol and extra amounts of vitamin C, just swallow a lemon and a half XD
Kidding. Anyways, I hope you feel better ^^
Thank you, I’ll add onto my list some extra vit. C
i’m trying to aggressively hit this cold before it gets worse so I’ll be using lots of stuff recommended here.XD
Vitamin C! Have you tried any Essential Oils to help unblock your nose, soothe your chest & fight the cold? Eucalyptus Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Cedarwood Oil, Lime Oil are all good ones to use in a steam bath. Just add a few drops to a large bowl of hot water, hold your face over the bowl with a towel over your head for about 10 – 15 minutes & breathe in deeply.
OMG I HAVE TEA TREE OIL. TY TY I’m totally gonna try this!
Apart from medicines, my mom always says “drink a lot of water”, “drink orange juice”, “drink any kind of juice” when I have a cold ^___^ I hope you feel better soon 😀
Thanks, I’m trying to battle this cold before it gets bad.
Actually, drinking orange juice when you’re sick is not a good idea because it causes more mucus production. I know I was baffled when I found this out because my mom always told me to drink juice when I was sick too, but there’s something in juices and dairy that causes more mucus to be produced. So it’s not recommended to drink OJ or milk when you’re sick. Also, stay away from cold beverages.
I have another recommendation that is a little out there, but it has worked for me and countless others. Try snorting warm to lukewarm water up your nose….this can be painful, I’m not going to lie to you, but it works! I found this out when I was in nursing school and we were talking about the tea nettle (sp?)…..I forget what it’s called, but it’s basically a tiny teapot. What you do is you fill it up with water, tilt your head to the side and pour the water in one nostril and the water will pour out of the other nostril. What this does is it drains your sinuses. If it works right, your nose should start running for a little bit as all of the gunk in your sinuses get loosened and drained out of your sinuses. As for me, I do it the ghetto way and just snort water whenever I feel a cold or allergies coming on. It works for me, maybe it’ll work for you. Good luck!
you mean neti-pot? LOL!@nettle pot, that would do WAY more than just sting a little.
Here’s a link to nasal irrigation. I’ve used this before as well, but for me i have very small nasal passages so it’s not so effective for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation
@leahb518
“I have another recommendation that is a little out there, but it has worked for me and countless others. Try snorting warm to lukewarm water up your nose…”
My husband uses this method only just with a squeezy thing (like a miniature turkey baster) He puts a drop or two of eucalyptus oil and oregano oil and some kosher salt in the warm water too.
firstly you need to drink hot water .. it will be good if you drink hot ginger water ..
Ah, Ginger! totally forgot about that. I’ll be keeping this in mind too.
Thank you~
you’re welcome dear .. . sleep well.. rest well will help too 🙂
get well soon
i’m going to sleep right now. G-night~
sleep is d best remedies actually.. i was being told by my lecturer that, d medicine jz works for 3,4 hr n then ur flu back again. i think u need to take a rest… ur body needs it…
p/s: did u all know that even doctor n pharmacists trying to avoid taking medicine even when they sick.. XDDD
About your last comment, I would think that’s common. They, of all people, would know that they need to take medicine cautiously and only as needed since there are side effects and drug-drug interactions. Most doctors and pharmacists don’t advocate taking medicine for everything… in fact, more and more are advising patients to just get lots of fluids and rest.
There’s actually no drugs available on the market that’s effective at killing off viruses (the best and only thing that we have is our own immune system) and abuse of antibacterials is becoming a problem (though not as big as some would have people believe). This is why people should take the drugs when it’s the only solution because most infections can be taken care of by our own bodies, given that you give it enough time, nutrients, and rest.
yeah…. in my county medicines like painkillers r being sell everywhere even in groceries =_=” they din know that d medicine will cause side effects.. like paracetamol we cant take more than 4g per day. if we exceed we will be overdose. some people went to icu for that… i went to visit oldfolks home n majority of them take d painkillers w/out their doctors permission…=_=””
A good rest and drink Chrysanthemum Tea, no sugar. A warm/ a bit hot water also nice.
@bmw81187
Dream about JYJ and you’ll be better. LOL
Seriously, take a lot of H2O and Vit C, and get some good rest.
@bmw81187,don’t forget to keep yourself warm enough,cover your neck,wear socks,and mitten when you go out side,(and your ears too,if you can…)-when you’re in the house just keep the socks ,drink warm water ,eat the hot foods only ,it’s the best,don’t eat or drink anything cold,ok…And the last thing,cross out any kind of food which cook with DUCK on your list” foods of the day.”. ….
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Get well soon,Sister…
..lemon (fresh juice from 1 lemon) +hony+water (not hot,but warm) 2 x per day..for me it’s usualy some 3 days of using such a formula and cold is going away..also room ventilation needs to be done more than usual,sleep,aaa forgot to mention cranberries ..
LOL! Now when gapp is posted almost everyone is too busy here to comment anywhere else for the first hour or so! ^_____^
Goodnight everyone. I have zombie eyes & if I don’t rest them soon I’ll scare random strangers! *hugs to everyone*
sleep well, sis! dream…. ummm… “good” dreams 😉
Thanks so much everyone!
I’m going to try the steam bath, ginger water, and the ginger and honey “syrup”. I’ll also keep the humidity up in my room.
THANKS AGAIN!
@bmw81187 fighting! Get better soon. ^___^
I’m really going to bed now. JYJ3 is too darn addictive!
Take some hot soup for breakfast. Take care. Nite
Somebody ,anybody,please tell him stop smoking
*but I’m still wish I was there to shake his hand too… *
😦
He really need to stop smoking 😦
¡YIYITHAAA!!! ¡I can see you in here! ¡The very precise moment when you shook hands with Chun! ¡GREAT!! 🙂
honestly …. i dont mind if he’s smoking .. I know that’s unhealthy ,, but he’s a Man .. maybe because in my house my Dad and my Brother smoke so it becomes usual thing for me ..
my bro’s too… d guys always smoke.. but i really3 wish chun stop smoking bcz he has asthma…for a person who has asthma to smoke is very harmful.. makes me worried bout him… ><
Oh we wish we could tell him that. But Chunny-bunny is grown man 😦
Hey Claudelle ♥, thank you for saying…..
Yoochun IS a grown man.
…and also known to be a private person—► having repeatedly requested that fans be courteous about said privacy…..yet here he is being filmed on the street, having a smoke…in an attempt to be a non-famous person just hanging out…..giving very obvious physical clues that he does not want to be approached. And well…..boom, another stalker video is born along with the attendant comments about his choices.
You can’t hear my *tone* so I may come across more harshly than I intend…..but, the gist is: JaeJoong & Yoochun are both big-drinkers and smokers….it’s not a secret…nor is it illegal. They’re young men in the entertainment biz and they’re actually stunningly CLEAN compared to the *norm*. How they choose to live ‘off-stage’ …isn’t anymore our business than who they’re having sex with….and we may be assured that they are doing that as well. (and that one includes tea-totaller Junsu)
I realize that in a forum everyone is free to make comments….and that’s why I’m adding mine. 🙂 …..grown men, do grown men things…even unhealthy things…..stalker vids…are stalker vids, both of which makes me shake my head.
i wish he do vocal training again. stop smoking i want to tell him but he is not the type that do other people tell. but his voice is changing T T
@sally_b “They’re young men in the entertainment biz and they’re actually stunningly CLEAN compared to the *norm*. How they choose to live ‘off-stage’ …isn’t anymore our business than who they’re having sex with….and we may be assured that they are doing that as well. (and that one includes tea-totaller Junsu) ”
MTE. Although we are compelled to naturally voice our concern about their well-being, ultimately, there is a boundary concerning what they do with their private lives- much of which, is entirely up to their own choosing, be it more amorous encounters & who knows what else. It’s not really any of our business to meddle with or criticize. Now as for those stalker cams, it speaks volumes about the lack of consideration some people have for someone else’s privacy. If you really put them on a high pedestal as you claim, you would do well to respect their security & the like.
@MINMIN *hugs* All is well in the world. We are sorry if we weren’t specific enough. ><!
@Ayame,i’m ok now,*hugs*…
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Just worry about his health ,and now ….what did I do wrong here….??????????????????
O.0
hey MinMin ❤ ….as I said in my post…you can’t hear my *tone* so it may have seemed more “scolding” than was intended. No offense to you at all, I assure you.
My reaction is based on Yoochun’s MANY public comments ….directly to fans (via twitter) …about being stalked on his personal time. This video clearly shows his discomfort and I actually applaud him for continuing to stand there and smoke-his-smoke…instead of trying to hide it or flick it to the ground. He’s on “Chun-time”….he should be able to scratch his (tiny) butt if he wants to …without being filmed then uploaded to youtube.
I understand *our collective curiousity*….and am also guilty of having watched the vid…though if I know beforehand I usually don’t. Yes…he has asthma…and that makes it doubly-deadly….but, I still stand by my conviction that adults make their own decisions and even world-famous people are entitled to make the same good-or-bad decisions that the general-population does. If this were a video of him flirting-up a girl in a club…I would have the same reaction.
Poor guys…they have over a million *mothers* worldwide…heheee. 😉
@MINMIN *hugs* Oh don’t worry about dear it MINMIN. I don’t this applies to you dear sis- you just brought up an interesting issue & we just responded with some input. It’s okay to worry about their health because I do too. We mean well. I am simply just saying there’s only so much we can do They probably do know that it is bad for their well-being, but that’s something they need to take care of by themselves personally . Is it is not really our place to tell them otherwise even though our intentions are well-met. And some people here were unhappy with the video because it looked like an intrusion of Yoochun’s private time & personal space. It’s not your fault MINMIN.
Many fans express their love through their concern & worry for the boys. It’s not a criticism, or really even a wish to control their lives, just an expression of their love, concern & worry for the boys health. So can we not jump on those fans who are voicing those concerns. We all know they are grown men who are living their life exactly the way they want too, which is what the majority of us want for them,but that doesn’t stop us worrying for them. My mum smokes. I hate it. I worry about her health, which contrary to what she stubbornly keeps insisting, is not great. I’m afraid I’m going to lose her early because she can’t/won’t stop smoking. But at the end of the day, I’ve had to accept she’s a grown woman who makes her own choices & I have to live with that & respect those choices. Which doesn’t stop me worrying about her, & frankly getting angry with her “sticking her head in the sand & continuously doing something that is damaging her health” behaviour.
In short, can we respect each other’s opinions & right to voice them, even when they differ with our own, & make the effort to understand where they are coming from? Please?
@MINMIN *hugs you tight sweet sunshine*
I agree with my sis Sapphie about the smoking. I don’t care particularly much if they are grown men, children, or 90 y/o elders, i will STILL adamantly be against any of them smoking. I’ve had far too many people disappear from my life thanks to that devil’s addiction, and I am known to hound anyone I care about to quit the damn things. So why should I change that attitude just cause it’s JYJ? LOL! It is just because I care and I don’t want to see them suffer and die by inches, like I’ve seen before.
Now on the topic of stalker-cams, I am deadset against them and won’t watch any of them, even airport ones. I know people have said “oh if they’re going some place for a concert it’s ok” but I don’t agree. Just cause you’re in a public place and just because you are passing thru for an official reason doesn’t mean all your time there is fair game. I travel for business too and I know I’d consider it very rude if someone was filming me at the airport. You wanna film at an official venue, fine, but airports, streets, etc, are not “official venues” and all activities in those areas are in my eyes “personal time”, and thus off-limits.
@Sapphire “In short, can we respect each other’s opinions & right to voice them, even when they differ with our own, & make the effort to understand where they are coming from? Please?”
This I believe this point here will always remain integral to promoting honest and productive discussions of JYJ3.net (& anywhere else outside this domain). Not always we will agree and sometimes we may passionately reject the views of another in favor of another’s for whatever personal reasons those might be. Nevertheless, it is healthy to disagree every so often as it welcomes different possible views to a situation. Overall, these discussions could be beneficial to our grasp of a broader view of any given circumstances. However, how we come across in explaining our opinions is very important to future peaceful conversations with others. I am guilty of this as well, but I think many of us could improve in more thoroughly detailing their views so that we may better understand as where we might be coming from. As I understand, there are naturally many avid and assertively opinionated ladies (and a few stray gentlemen) here, so it is expected that we would we come into contention at some point one way or another. But as you have also pointed out, we could also do our part in at least attempting to comprehend what the other party might be suggesting or saying in their thought process. Obviously, in a very sensitive environment such as this one, sometimes we must remember to step back & calm down before we enter the textual exchange so as not to inadvertently offend anyone.
@min min
@sally_b
“hey MinMin ❤ ….as I said in my post…you can’t hear my *tone* so it may have seemed more “scolding” than was intended. No offense to you at all, I assure you.”‘
Listen to sally_b, Min Min……. she knows what she’s talking about.
My take–the worst part of that video where The Chun was caught sucking on a butt was… the video.
As to your comment about the million hanky-wringing mothers of JYJ…… **gulp** heh heh…
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ok,come on ,everybody ,I need a group hug here ,you made me got a heart attack here…..@sally_b @Ayame
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@Sapphire,Sister,did you sleep well ,last night?
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smiles, baby..^__^ hugs!!
@lilibaiyu
Thank you ,love you ,Sister…
@MINMIN
I actually didn’t sleep well at all, & ended up having a nightmare about a snake bite killing my cat. >.< I think I might move to Ireland… no snakes there!
@anva *hugs *
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@Sapphire,Sister,I thought you met him in your dream…*the biceps* ,Sister,remember…*_* ?
How come there was cat and snake ……, last night,huh?
@Myfriendspringbok7
“I’ve had far too many people disappear from my life thanks to that devil’s addiction, and I am known to hound anyone I care about to quit the damn things. So why should I change that attitude just cause it’s JYJ? LOL! It is just because I care and I don’t want to see them suffer and die by inches, like I’ve seen before.”
Me too. My Mom, most notably. I carefully tended her and watched as she literally strangled to death from emphysema and heart failure. It wasn’t pretty. In her era, EVERYONE smoked. It was just what you did while you were anxiously waiting to hear whether your husband was coming home from WWll or not. When all the evidence began to be presented she just could not kick the addiction no matter how hard she tried. I watched her die and I’m here to tell you it was just awful.
So it’s more than a little upsetting for me to see Yuchun, who has asthma on top of it, smoking. And as a singer myself, I know only too well what he is doing to his voice and in fact I can hear the effects already, as can many others here on JYJ3. But again, like springbok7, I draw the line at fancams and encroaching fans invading his privacy. I think they are wrong and I’ll never stop saying it.
@Sapphie,
No no, not IRELAND… move to HAWAII!! we have NO snakes at all here! And then we can drool over… umm I mean watch JYJ videos together 😀
@Lili, yeah, sometimes I think we should send those two boys videos on “the effects of smoking” along with a very passionate fan vid about why we really really really REALLY wish they’d quit. People think dying is for the old, but it ain’t so true when you’re a chimney stack, and it is not a pretty or pleasant way to go. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, let alone someone I actually like!
@springbok7
NO snakes in Hawaii?? & it’s warm & sunny too!! & we can drool… ahem, discuss, JYJ to our hearts content?! I’m on the next plane!!! Kawaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!
@Sapphie
yup, yup, no snakes here! I’ll pick you up at the airport… just… please don’t be mad when you land in a rainstorm and it sticks around for next four days… cause… umm… we’re heading towards “winter”, that time of year where it rains non-stop for four months… sometimes… when we aren’t having “la nina” droughts… yah our weather is complicated… LOL!
@springbok7
I didn’t know that Hawaii got 4 months of rain… We used to have constant rain all throughout the winters, but the last few years it’s sunny nearly all winter = colder cause of the high sky, & mostly grey & overcast during summer. So yeah, I’m used to non-stop rain! Just don’t get flooded out!
@springbok7
“yup, yup, no snakes here! I’ll pick you up at the airport… just… please don’t be mad when you land in a rainstorm and it sticks around for next four days…”
OK, well I’ve thought it all over carefully and I’ve decided to move in with you. (I like rain. As long as you live in a house with heat, it’s cozy.) Expect me any time now.
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@Sapphie,
Yeah, big island (the one i live on) is one of the wettest places in the world, we average ~250 inches of rain a year. We distinguish between summer and winter by how much rain we get lol. Summer is less rain, winter more. We got flooded in 2000 (2inches through the downstairs ugh) but have since taken staps to redirect water so it does not flow straight through our property off the main road LOL! Rock walls are a beautiful invention!!!
@Lili,
heat? HEAT?! OMG no thanks!!! Our temperatures range between high 70s in winter and mid 80s in summer (with ~100% humidity more often than we’d like LOL!) You’ll be far more likely to be begging for the air conditioner than the heater, believe me LOL!
I do love the rain though, there’s something so pleasurable to be curled up in bed with a good book, while the rain is pounding the iron roof so hard you can’t even talk to someone in the same room because of the noise.
@springbok7
“I do love the rain though, there’s something so pleasurable to be curled up in bed with a good book, while the rain is pounding the iron roof so hard you can’t even talk to someone in the same room because of the noise.”
I’m right with ya, soul sister. We’re going to make PERFECT roomates! lol
In other news, because you might not have grabbed my new favorite song yet, here it is….
One fan walked toward him to shake his hand and the others followed, keke. Sigh…..I wish Jaejoong and Yoochun will stop smoking.
😦 he really needs to stop smoking because he has asthma….chunnie, go get a candy instead!!!
CALLING ALL CHUNSA’S
I’ve just ordered a copy of Chunnie’s High Cut magazine, up for free to anyone who can win it. I’m too tired to suggest games or comps for it, but anyone else, leave your suggestions here, or we can do the same first person to claim gapp 5 times in a row comp, wins it! (After current gapp comp is over!)
Let’s do fanart this time, is that okay? ^__^
@ Sapphire
This idea of games and give aways are awesome!!
I have an extra copy of JYJ’s The Beginning Album. The Limited edition one with the black box and serial number.
I was fighting for copies and I ordered from 3 separate websites, that and one of my friends wanted a copy.
So I bought 3 copies, one for me, one for my sister and one for my friend….. but when I received the copies my friend suddenly didn’t want the album anymore!! TT.TT so now I have an extra copy.
So if anyone can think up a great game or something I will put it up as the prize.
I don’t need 3 copies…TT.TT…
Sharing is caring!!! kekekekekekeke!!!
How about Tohosinki Best Collection 2010..i have an extra cpoy? is it limited to JYJ album? i have extra Cds The Begining Album plus Posters.
..copy..typo sorry
I have an extra copy of the Elle Magazine March edition that featured assassin Jaejoong. Is anyone interested? 🙂
let’s put this up for grabs…! funnier that way…^___*
@kementari8
cool…! love the sharing is caring part….^__^
maybe u guys can make a poem competitions.. poems that related to JYJ life. XD
d best wins… or fanart competitions???
let’s make it more fun…10 times in a row…how’s that for displaying super ninja skills??..LOL
@mizzyjyj501, it’s so hard to get 5 times, skye is the living prove, now 10 times?
oh lol…just a suggestion…5 is good tho’…how about Maison + In Heaven = 10x in a row…
but then again High Cut mag was offered awhile back so after Maison we’ll have the High Cut up for grabs after…and then another cd..The Beginning (?).and still another cd offered…hmmmm…In Heaven’s goin’ to be stuck in my cabinet longer before it’ll be up for grabs..
.so scratch the 10x in a row…LOL…let’s stick with 5…
oh goodness so many goodies… hahaha ^^
I have a few that I can give away too~
we must think of contests.
How about a trivia contest? Whoever is giving the prize away can come up with 10 or so questions and whoever can post it on GAP first with the correct answers wins. Or maybe the Admins can set up a separate post just for the contest. What do you guys think?
I can’t really get behind the fan art idea, although it’s a great idea, because I have no creative bone in my body. My stick figures are pathetic at best. 😦
My ideas for games:
1. I think the most creative JYJ picture with a quote along with it (are the called spazz posts?) should win ^^
Those are always amusing to see and look at.
2. Poem contest (or taking a previously written song and making it apply to JYJ)
(9mmleftshinki was awesome at these! Where did she go btw? I miss her humour TT__TT)
3. A video contest about why you loves JYJ (you don’t even have to show your face)
4. Taking a picture or something and writing a short fanfiction of it ^^
5. Taking a script and writing an amusing script based on it ^^(like K-fans do)
6. Writing the best heartfelt message to the adminnies for all their hard work contest
7. Coming up with the best strategy to support JYJ? (maybe an international volunteering club or something….I STILL REALLY WANT INTERNATIONAL JYJ FANS TO ORGANize something like this one day per city)
Thanks everyone for your input. I really like the idea of fan art comps, but it kinda sucks for people who don’t feel artistic enough to have a shot. @phoenixia I love your ideas, esp #1 & 6. (I miss 9mmleftshinki too.) So, since we’ve hit 15 million & the admins need more admins to cope with the traffic, I’ll give the copy of High Cut magazine away to whoever writes the best heartfelt message to the admins for all their hard work & dedication!
JYJ is number 5 in Hanteo’s 2011 Singer Award yayay!! ^_____^
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/11/super-junior-big-bang-tvxq-and-more-on-hanteos-2011-singer-awards-chart
TVXQ is number 3, good for them too! But anyone know why Hanteo used the TVXQ5 picture instead of just HoMin?? Are they trolling on us or something?! LOL
singer awards are composed of past albums that is still charting. mirotic, rising sun and o is still charting. same with suju they used the pic with 13 members
Amazing that JYJ’s up there too, considering their discography’s way less than the top 3. Hyun Joong did great too, he only has 2 mini albums I think? He has a really great fanbase for a solo singer. I’ve been really impressed with his album sales and chart wins. Henecia’s awesome for supporting him.
not only henecians but TS too!
Can’t forget Triple S! =)
Such a Wonderful present for my birthday today. Thanks! =)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YINNI!! Hope you have a wonderful day today ^_____^
happy birthday^^
@yinni : Happy Birthday 2 U !!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY~ ENJOY TO THE FULLEST!! 🙂
happy birthday dear^^
Happy bday :D!
@yinni
happy birthday dear….^_^
happy birthday! 🙂
Happy Birthday!!!!
Happy birthday to you dear girl 🙂
@yinni
Happy Birthday!! 😀
JYJ to be one of nomination in Hanteo???? ehm….
but i don’t understand how Hanteo to calculate it???? can anyone explain for me…T_T
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/11/super-junior-big-bang-tvxq-and-more-on-hanteos-2011-singer-awards-chart
Singer awards = old albums(still charting) + recent albums + dvd + others
so it means that TVXQ in hanteo charts is for TVXQ5 album such as Mirotic and JYJ album in the charts are for the three of them only….
ok… i dont know what to say, i’m happy for JYJ in charts but for TVXQ5 album *still a little confuse*…
yes, mirotic, rising sun and O are still charting 🙂
owh…old album????? wow…it’s great for JYJ because they are newbie with 2 album and little DVD + other
thank’s for you information…^^
oh really? so that means
Old + new albums>=JYJs 2011 albums?
Whoa…
possible if the beginning album charted this year, their total album sales for in heaven is 124k, while for singer awards the total is 158k. but i think 30k came from the sales from their mini album that was released last january.
I was reading some comments, and saw that TVXQ had 132 albums/singles. 132!!!???
So the 2011 sales number includes old and new releases by TVXQ5 and TVXQ2…. And you cannot really distinguish them. In contrast, JYJ’s number is purely of their new releases, without the benefit of the 2011 sales of the old TVXQ5 releases. Hmmph…
i think 170k out of 200k came from KYHD (normal, special and repack), the rest from mirotic album, rising sun and even their debut album charted this year.
i really want jyj to release a limited or special edition of in heaven with 2 new tracks to boost the album sales, soon snsd will surpass them in no.5 position if they release a repackaged album. if 350,000 sales will reflect in gaon, and if they decided to release a special edition it is possible to achieve 500k sales for in heaven 🙂
yeah…you right dear…
i hope Cjes will realease “In Heaven” in many version…C, D, E, F, a special edition or whatever,,,,so JYJ will to achieve 500k sales (i belive that)….lol 🙂
Uwah! Jaechun ^O^ My favorite couple and now I’m smiling like an idiot ^~^
PS: I forgot to sign in first O.o
HI! EVERYBODY ^~^ I’m new here *O* Well actually I’m not I’m just a silent reader ^^
welcome to JYJ3….. ^^
Thank you ^~^ I’m really happy to be here *O* but I was surprised when the fanvid I made posted here ^^
u made fanvid??? which one???
It’s Keep Holding On JYJ fanvid ^~^
that video… i like d video.. its soo touching… ggod job girl ^^
Hehe! Thank you very much ^^ I really love JYJ that’s why I did the fanvid *O* I hope that I’ll make more ^^
@Sarah Pedeglorio
Hi. 😀
welcome dear ^^
and thank u very much for made those fanvid
i really love it ^^
Today’s GAP is flying!! Haha
Three great guys,
Three great guys
Hear how they sing,
See how they act!
They all fight for freedom
With strong will and mind.
Who ever tries to stop them
Will lose the fight.
Did you ever see
Such a sight in your life
As three great guys?
Okie, I’m bored. 😛
Haha is that supposed to be sung using the “three blind mice” tune?
Lol, yes. Smart gal! ^^
Lovely….lol
girs vote for JJ.. at least we must beat heechul…
click on his name not on his pic…
http://feature.ifensi.com/bagua/topsmart/
done !
done…
question : how many time we can vote such as once a day or once for 1 id
i heard we can vote as many time as we want.. no limits
Love this couple sooooo much! ❤
awww ~ sweet soulmate ♥
at the start of be the one three girls come down look at our 3 boy reaction
Can someone do a screen cap of that? I just love it.
And the girls’ reactions to them.
I love Yoochun and Gala here :3
Flawless boys, and Jaejoong isn’t awkward anymore when dancing, so proud of you bb! ❤
Yoochun’s really so comfortable around women.
Whoa… GAP nowadays really became livelier…
Hi everyone! Just got back from job hunting.
Hi …how did it go ?
well the same parting words as always, “we’ll call you if you made it to the short list”
~sigh~
So i’m still looking for another.
Hi Vhonz! You’re a Filipina? 🙂
Wishing you all the best with job hunting! HUGS!
@ Cathe, salamat.
Ang hirap talagang makahanap ng magandang employer pero makakahanap din ako.
Well anyway, another brand new day for all of us. Another day of putting our dreams into reality.
Let’s enjoy life! 😀
Hello! Missing everyone and all the comment-flooding I’ve been making with the posts. 😦 Uni is killing me! HUHU T_T
Anyway, did any of you lovelies purchase the 3hree Voices II DVD? How is it? D: I plan to order one, but I don’t know if it’s worth the really high price! Please tell me if it’s good!
Thank you! ❤ Love you, JYJ Family!
@Cathe
If you want to preview it first, I have the english subbed files on my Megaupload folder. Let me know if you want the link k? You can tweet me at Golda518.
Tweeting you! Thank you, Leah! 😀
ugh, Idk what to do, I’m getting Yoochun’s High cut for a friend, but I want it myself. Problem is I have 15€ and it would cost me 11€, idk what to doooo. Money, why you no fall from the sky?! D:
(totally asking for advice here!)
Ask alms from thy parents (or work for a short-term job like those in Korean dramas) and buy yourself one and another for your friend! 😀
It’s so difficult to find a job in Spain right now, ugh. I’ll have to keep trying xDD
Go, Unnie! You’ll get one definitely! ❤ You can ask money from your parents and just tell them you'll pay it back by washing the dishes or cleaning up their room. HAHA
lol….
how about to rob a bank????kekekkeke
after that you buy for your self one and don’t forget buy for me, okey….
btw Junchan update his twitter and write JYJ but i don’t understand hangul…poor me…T_T
I pray that the high school seniors taking the SATs tomorrow will do great~~!! Hwaiting^^Do better JYJ fans~Yup!
got the translation in twitter 🙂
Junchan is such a sweetheart ❤
@Skye
I’m giving away a copy of Chunnie’s High Cut to whoever posts the best heartfelt message of thanks to our admins, (idea courtesy of @phoenixia), so start writing! ^____^
I’m going to abstain for obvious reasons. 😉
Well, they do say that abstinence is good for the soul. *looks at Jae’s NII camping pic* Umm… but maybe it’s not!!! 😀
@Sapphire
“Well, they do say that abstinence is good for the soul. *looks at Jae’s NII camping pic* Umm… but maybe it’s not!!! ”
Abstinence is only good for the souls of people who haven’t had any in donkey’s years and are trying to ruin it for everyone else. For all you kids on the list: never let anyone talk you into abstinence. It’s about as bogus as The Golden Disc Awards.
@lilibaiyu This conversation reminds me about the little rejoinder a clever she-wolf said about abstinence when devouring some apples without restraint or regret: “Nothing was ever accomplished from abstinence.”
*note: The ‘wolf’ I am referring to is literally the fictional wolf goddess Holo from the Japanese light novel/anime/manga franchise by the name of ‘Spice & Wolf” for all you enthusiasts out there.
& we all know the Golden Disk Awards is possibly the single most bogus thing on the planet! 🙂
http://www.dkpopnews.net/2011/11/news-top-5-male-idols-by-korea-gays.html
has anybody seen this yet
lol junsu came in at four
i really laughed out loud for this but i found it really cute especially the title
Even though I wouldn’t be surprised if Su was on a list like this, I’m wary of any polls that list their sources as Weibo (or Baidu.) A lot of them are usually fake. Either way, this was a cute read. xD Thanks for sharing!
i love your avatar…it is cute…it’s look like you are try hard to suppress the explosive laugh…hahahahaha….nice GAPP today JYJ FANS!!!
LOL
Can’t helo but remember that he was also picked by 2 Japanese gays among his members in Hey3x cut.
😀
Eh? when and where was that ? I want to see it too badly xD
it seems like the video has been removed in YT. can’t find it. sorry.
Can you believe this?!
One self proclaim ot5 said she wanna slap Su coz he tweet ‘JYJ fans’ and not Cassiopeia?!!
And some ot5 are kicking a fuss because of this as well!
Oh, and did I mentioned she is a YJ fan too?!
Omg sun!
They are truly FAKE fans…. No, I should call them antis instead.
Stupid fools!
They should really get a life.
With ‘fans’ like these, who needs antis!!!!!!!
If you really love someone, would you do a thing to hurt them? NOOO …..
Really I dont understand this cassies or OT5 thing..
Dear cassies and OT5 : please wake up from your dream. TVXQ has become a history when junsu, jaejoong, and yuchun decided to break apart. TVXQ is 5 people right? is not 2 or 3 or 1? Now homin is taking their own path and uri JYJ is taking other path, they have separated. Dry your tears.. Stand up and see the reality. Let it go.. And get your inner peace. You have to start it someday, either now or .. Idk .. either way its over. get over it.
Sorry I’m ranting
A ++++++++++
Wow… you said it better…
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
@Shadow
My dear J2, yes. There’s a lot of buzz on twitter about this. And I agree, they’re not fans but antis or worst than antis I think. As you said, with fans like those who needs antis? Now I know why men think it’s very difficult to understand women behaviour cause now I am having a hard time trying to understand why are these sso called “fans” doing things to hurt the ones the claim to love. ¡UNBELIEVABLE!
*they* 🙂
wow….. it’s must one of stupid fans with their fiction and can’t to get the reality about JYJ now which JYJ is JYJ not DB5K again …(i think crazy fans) …lol
i glad Junchan write JYJ fan’s and i’m proud to be one of them… 🙂
@Shadow
Take a few deep calming breaths…now maturation and age level are sometimes not the same. 🙂 It is commonly called ~~ ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!
This dampened my day a little. She has to get through our axes first. Lulz.
did JYJ ever call their fans Cassiopeia ?
why is this even an issue with them ?
huh dare to touch a single hair of our jusu we will burn her.
¡You’re my hero dear!
Cassiopea who love the five members dbsk must realize that they are no longer known as cassiopea now they are just known as OT5 fans. Cassiopea and even bigeast name now belong to HM fans, SM already said that…sad but this is the reality.
Jae Chun Su now in JYJ of course they will call their fans as JYJ fans, if they are in dbsk then they will call their fans as cassiopea. can OT5 fans understand this? now they are JYJ.
Majority of Bigeasts are OT5 fans though. They genuinely support activities of all five.
I know but sad since SM and avex doing new recruitment cassie and bigeast just for HM now this true fans who love dbsk5 members just known as OT5 fans or if not they will still add the number five in cassiopea and bigeast name just like dbsk name so nobody is confused, feel like SM want to erase them and feel like they are not official anymore, sad. Anyway this is just my opinion ^^ .
@mjjejelove
“I know but sad since SM and avex doing new recruitment cassie and bigeast just for HM now this true fans who love dbsk5 members just known as OT5 fans or if not they will still add the number five in cassiopea”
Time to move on, my friend. That’s all a part of the past now. Hanging on to it isn’t going to change anything and it’s only making you miserable. There’s plenty to be happy about in the present, plenty to be excited and hopeful for in the future. It’s entirely your choice.
@ lilibaiyu
Yeap, Time to Move On ^^
@mjjejelove
“Yeap, Time to Move On ^^”
And lucky us! Look what we have to look forward to! JYJ! The hand-picked best of the best of the old unit.
I feel SORRY for anybody who isn’t US! lol
It is because they are living in a delusional world. Have you seen the banners on the OT5 sites that put the 5 of them together from current photos? I think that is really creating a false reality and keeps them in denial. Anyway, at least they support JYJ still. When they realize that this is for real, I’m not sure which way they will go – or should I say I think they won’t support them anymore. We need more JYJ3 fans before that happens.
i am an OT5, though i am JYJ biased, but all the things said here are kinda meh~~
there is nothing wrong if the OT5 still want to believe that maybe they can comeback together again! AKTF is what OT5 believe in!
the OT5 truly do love the 5 of them together! i know i do..but i do realize its almost impossible for them to reconcile..i support JYJ in their activities and i support HoMin in theirs..
i just want to say that lets not talk about OT5 or HoMin stans in these threads, because then the comments that are posted here are really used out of context in an anti JYJ forum! i have seen that and i have tried to defend JYJ3! i love JYJ3 because it truly is the best place i can get news related to my JYJ <3~~
also i don't think think there is anything wrong in calling JYJ fans as JYJ fans! su did the right thing! i support him!
i am sorry if i offended anyone here!
p.s. also please stop calling others fake! even though i want to smack the girl for saying something horrible about my su baby but please don't stoop to their level! its wrong to call someone fake! i have been called a fake for trying to voice out my opinion and it really hurts when your sincerity doesn't get through and you are misjudged!
I’ll call a spade a spade and in this case, a fake a fake!
How can one still proclaim her love for her idol when he just does not do or say what she wants to hear?
And I don’t see one single drop of sincerity in what she said and do I think she is misjudged!
Do not let your judgement be clouded just because you hold certain hopes for reunion.
Now I’m not saying that is wrong. I’m pointing finger at that particular fellow and those that holds the same thoughts, which is to blame Su for calling his fans JYJ fans.
Pls keep this in mind.
We all have the right to have an opinion, but something is wrong when we begin to convince others that yours is the correct one no? Bashing JS on twitter just because he does not subscribe to your opinion any longer is truly “not right”
For this, my only opinion on this whole thing is that the boys have been giving signals and clues right, left, and center. Short of smacking us with a huge hammer on the head, we all know and understand LOUD and CLEAR where they belong now and where they are headed to.
right ka Jan!
Love it!
:8D
Hi vhonz kamusta? Hope to meet you guys someday, kailangan ng live JYJ spazzing sessions XD
hopefully sana next year makapag-concert ang JYJ dito sa pinas para chance na nating mag-meet.
(crossing fingers)
@Jan
YES!!! JYJ have been outright telling us in various ways exactly who they are now, where they are at & in which direction they are going. Jae himself has even said that his biggest goal now is to be loved as JYJ – how much more direct & obvious can he get?? *hands him a sledgehammer* They have been telling us for most of this year now, in various ways, some subtle, but becoming increasingly more obvious, that they are JYJ & they want us fans to love & accept for them for who they are now, not keep pining for the past. The OT5er’s who keep doing this & bashing the boys like this, are as much jailers as sm was – trying to force the boys to be who & what they want them to be, rather than loving & accepting them as they are. They are unfairly & selfishly putting pressure on JYJ, & also just making themselves miserable & angry. Let it go people, & let JYJ be JYJ. There is no greater gift than being loved, understood & accepted unconditionally for exactly who you are. In light of all the love & joy JYJ give us, is it too much to ask these hardcore OT5er’s to try & give them this love in return?
Dear Ms. Lili
I wholeheartedly agree. JYJ are in a happy place now, more than ever, so let us all wish those who truly love them will also be happy for them. For TVXQ5 fans, I do have nothing against Ot5ers who want to AKTF but just please do not shove it down our throats kay? moreso pressure JYJ about it. Leave em alone.
And for some reason, Ms lili while reading your reply, “Empty” suddenly cues in in my brain XD
“Jae himself has even said that his biggest goal now is to be loved as JYJ” >> true, I distinctly remember this from the interior magazine interview. How much more direct does he have to be?
@Jan
If you’re talking to me, it’s Sapphire, not Lili!! Hahahaha!!!
A+++++++++++++
Oh no! I meant you Sapphire! Good God my eyes are failing me. I saw the “gray color” and I automatically think: Lili
Sorry about that XD
@Jan
LOL!! I thought my grey gravatar might have been at fault!!
Grrrr…. my g is failing – I have to keep going back & pressing the key extra hard to insert it into my comments in the appropriate places. I never realised how much I used the g before!
it’s okay 🙂 anyway, I shall go back to singing “Empty”
“why can’t you let it go, let it go, let it go…~~~” ^^
@Jan
“Short of smacking us with a huge hammer on the head, we all know and understand LOUD and CLEAR where they belong now and where they are headed to.””
True enough. ONLY the Willfully Blind can fail to notice after two years that JYJ is headed in one direction only and it it AWAY from SME and those who remain there. There will be no tearful reunions. No sentimental concert re-groupings. Those times that the OT5s still long for are OVER. It’s like really really hoping that the horseless carriage is going to make a come-back. It won’t.
@Jan
“Good God my eyes are failing me. I saw the “gray color” and I automatically think: Lili”
HEY!! LOL I’m not ~that~ gray! (yet.)
🙂
Yeah.. and the issue of fandom name re-appeared. again. *sigh.
No worries, as Su said, we are JYJ fans.
I’m proud to be one.
Those who cannot accept that, should just go away.
for several months, i have been content with “no fandom name” status.. btw its freaking funny when a fans decided to physically or verbally hurt the one they worship? and btw of course we are JYJ fans, we could not be JYJ antis right ? except when the world is turned upside down..
¡JYJ Fans fighting! ¡JYJ fighting!
don’t worry my dear Lynn
we are always be JYJ fans no matter what the other people called us
hmm….i’m gonna put my thought about these now
i always though why the names is always be so important and till bring some an argument ? it’s doesn’t matter if we called ourself a cassie or JYJ fans or JYJ families or JYJ nation or whatever it is because the only one that important is we (all of us) being in here because we love JYJ n try to support them despite all of us has a different background, different countries and etc right ? if u guys ask me what i’m gonna called myself then it was simple, the answer is i’m JYJ fans who really love my JYJ families in this site
heeey my beloved JYJ SISTERS !! ^__^ since its soulmate day i want to share this VD to show how much there realtionship is SO BIG !! and i really admire there friendship just like jaejoong and yuchun said they are perfect …..!! they r indeeeeed SOULMATE ..forever soulmate ^^\
Aww~ so sweet. I love their brotherhood and friendship too!
after reading some comment about my lovely junchan tweet, suddenly i am having an urge to seek for the meaning of the word “fan (nouns)”. just for my references only…like i confessed before, my english is far from good so of course my interpretation may or may not be slightly off…correct me if i am wrong…
let me see,hemmmm…after reading a few articles and dictionary i have a rough idea about it and i’ll try to put it in JYJ Fan context…what i understand is a JYJ fan is
1. some one that devoted itself to follow and support JYJ in person and all their activities
2. some one that admired and inspired by the JYJ personalities and their achievement that strong enough to be influence in the way of thinking/action
3. some one that motivated to demonstrate their involvement with certain behaviours (posting online, concert attending, fan project ect)
hem….wah…i got all three check, so i think i can proudly and confidently announce myself as JYJ Fan.but i love to add more
~a JYJ fan always wish for the BEST for JYJ in person or as a group
~a JYJ fan always trying hard to be well informed and well equipped with proper skill in argument construtivismly
~a JYJ fan always trying hard not to be shallow minded/ obsssive person that think JYJ is without a flaws. he/she will embrace the flaws/mistakes with open heart and positive attitude that will allow JYJ to grow and expend
~a JYJ fan always trying hard to be considerate towards the haters and sympathise for their shortcomings….
~a JYJ fan even without formal name or emblam always trying hard to stay true to our unspoken vow to protect JYJ till the end
wahhhhhh…..what a long comment…sorry for being carried away… it just i can not understand how can a so-called fan ever think inflict pain toward my sweet junchan… it hurt me so much just to think about it… okey…take care and be good my fellow JYJ fans….
Love your post and I agree with everything you said ^^
Ah, my dear @hodoh45, you nailed it! This is what fans are, and what they do. This is why we ALL are where we are, and others are where they are. And there’s no place else I’d rather be. 😉
@hodoh45
😀
*nod**nod*
love u comment
Can everyone vote for JYJ for popularity award at the Golden Disk Awards? Right now they are in 3rd place behind Super Junior and TVX2. Don’t forget to check the box at the bottom of the screen when you set up your username and password. Here is a link to a tutorial on voting http://ixiahcassie.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/info-voting-tutorial-gda-golden-disk-awards-voting-tutorial-let%E2%80%99s-vote-for-jyj/
If you have any problems leave a reply here and I will try to help.
will try, thank you!
@anva
Hi!! 😀 I’ve missed you. *hugs*
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUA!! KISS ^____________^
@anva,sister,where were you ?how are you?I missed you …
@MINMIN….I need your smlies baby and @Sapphire too..OK I just want to ask you ( for fun) today my day is like this picture…….alot of monkeys climp up the tree, some on the top, some on the midle, some on the bottom….The monkey climp very top tree look down see all the smliing face but….. what did the very bottom monkey see when he look up?????
oo…sorry to all JYJ3 sister in here if you can guess any thing… you dont like..kekek i know you are all very smart^__^!
@anva ,he will see * the bottom of the whole group of those monkeys*
😀
@MINMIN….hmmm…how to call that?? That what i want to yell too many time today,but i cant..That’s not nice.^________^
@anva ,OMG…..HAHAHAHHAHHHAHHAHAHHHAHHH…
SISTER OH MY SISTER……
😀
😀
😀
^___________________^ good night!!
@anva
It sounds like you’re having a crappy day. *hugs you tight* & you’re right. Some days there is just too many monkey’s a**** in the world!!!
@anva,Sister, good night ,have a sweet dream tonight,Sis.Everything will be Ok tomorrow,just get a good sleep tonight,ok .Hey,JJ with “I’LL PROTECT YOU ” will get you sleep well..
*hugs *
I AM SOOOO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!! I CONVINCED MY UNNIE TO BUY ME “THEIR ROOMS” FOR MY BIRTHDAY!!! 😀
i have already ordered it!!! cant wait to get it!! *proud owner of “in heaven” already*
congrats ^^
i am so excited for it!! slowly but surely imma gonna get my “the beginning” album too ❤
WOW!
Congratz!!!
aww… what a great friendship. random question, what were jyj’s thoughts about college? you know, when they were 18? I don’t know mucho of their past.
I don’t really know what they think of college. I just know some fact that: Junsu and Yunho attended the same university, Yoochun and Changmin another one. All of them seem to study the same major – art of performance. Only Jaejoong said in an interview that he hadn’t decide to follow to college or not. I personally think Jaejoong quite practically think about what he can learn than what certificate he’s gonna get. I heard he dropped out of highchool during time he was training at SME, and I am not even sure if he finished it later yet
from what i knew it’s true that Jaejoong has dropped out from high school but after their debut, i heard that he continued till graduated together with Yoochun
is that true that Yoochun also continued his study to the college ? sorry if i’m mistake
yes, he attended the same university with Changmin, but I doubt any of them finished their study. Only Changmin was recently reported to be at his college. You know college to Korean male celebrities is most likely to one of the excuse to delay going to army so normally they drag their study as long as possible. I said that just in general, I don’t mean nor imply that any of them are trying to dodge.
Last I heard, Yunho and Junsu are in Myeongji, Changmin and Yoochun are in Kyunghee. Last year(?) Yunho mentioned that he’s a senior in college and thinking about graduate school so I’d assume Junsu would have graduated by now if it’s the same but there hasn’t been news about any graduations. The only one seen on campus recently is Changmin going to his mid terms. Jaejoong’s the only one who didn’t enrol in college. Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Jae’s choice, college isn’t for everyone. My friend tried it for a semester, didn’t like it so he dropped out and now he’s earning big bucks.
Jaejoong dropped out of high school initially but finished his high school diploma after debut. Yoochun enrolled into Junsu’s school and graduated together, if I’m not mistaken.
@braveviet
I think that excuse only applied to Rain LOL. With the amount of time he dragged on he could’ve entered the army and be back out by now.
I’m rather glad that Jaejoong didn’t go to college. It definitely hasn’t backfired on his career, & he has a unique way of thinking & seeing that world, that formal education can sometimes stifle.
haii .. i’m back … Had just read all comment above about baby Junsu’s tweet .. Junsu said : JYJ FANS DO BETTER~ YUP …. This .. JYJ FANS .. Junsu said by his own tweet …. why people get mad of this? sigh …..
out of topic .. JYJ In Heaven is #1 in K-pop chart Derings TransTv ( Derings is a music program that every wednesday presenting Kpop chart and TransTv is one one national Tv in Indonesia ) .. exactly I dont see it by my own eyes . my friend told me this morning .. and she said Derings aired In Heaven MV .. woooaaa ,,…..
hehehe i hope it’s gonna be stay for several weeks from now ^^
because it’s really rare we can see our boys in these program in our country
sejunsu .. 🙂
lol….. JYJ In Heaven number one for two weeks in dering,,,, 🙂
serius????? waaaaaaaa ……. i cant watch Derings because I’m in my office that hours …… woaaa .. #1 for 2 weeks it’s Awe to the Some ….
it’s true…. a weeks ago JYJ number 1 too and this week JYJ still number one…. 🙂
i hope JYJ come to our country… ^^
wow so much activity O_____O
here is baby JYJ to lighten up the mood. They are soooooo cute http://twitpic.com/7cl3v7
@CL
http://twitpic.com/7cl3v7
OMG, I’m in TOTAL CUTENESS OVERLOAD over here!!!!!
they are cute !!!!!!
*flat lines from meltdown of cuteness*
OMG LMAO IMAGINING LILI’S TOTAL CUTENESS OVERLOAD!!! 😀
But the boys are seriously sooooo cute. Can I squish them all?? Pleeease!!!!!
Awwwww…too cute! ^_^
gaon chart for the month of october is already out
so .. how’s the result ?????
not 350k, 212k total (sept +oct), sales for the month of oct is 80K+ only
SNSD 227k for the month of oct, so they are now 3rd in gaon chart.
i hope nobady bash c-jes for this..huhu
you mean 218,367 .
albums sales on Goan chart (but without repackage) so far:
suju 329,035
tvxq 244,128
snsd 227.994
jyj 218,367
here is the link for Goan chart:
http://www.gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/album/list.gaon
click on 월간 for monthly sales.
so its 218k my mistake i thought its only 212k
@JYJhidupGw
yea the boys, snsd has a huge fandom they’re the only girl group that you can actually compare with boy group in terms of physical sales .
some fans are now bashing cjes and jyj
snsd?? what album? the boys???
what the hell????
218,367?????
owh….are you sure….. again and again not fairness for our boy…..
when this can stop???? T_T
so..how about in heaven sell????tell me….tell me…
212k total album sales as of oct. 30, 2011
geeezzz they are now bashing jyj and cjes for 350k
Actually maybe CjES is right…. If you add hanteo and Gaon together you get around 350K…..
Also isn’t 350K the number of CD shipped out not the number that was bought?
lol….
look this link…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaon_Chart
Gaon chart obtain their data from X company…. lol
i’m not surprise with this news…..
WOW! 450+ comments on gapp! At this rate we’ll be hitting 20 million soon! ^_____^
(sneaks in) I recently just joined the T-ara fandom too. I know nothing about T-ara though X____X except that I like their msuic…..
lol
But JYJ (especially Jaejoong) will forever be my first love!
Lol poor se7en
http://twitpic.com/7cmdbc
New fanaccount
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/e3gtaq
New gapp where are you? Loading while I type this I suppose!!
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[TRANS] Jaejoong as a Singer (Aug 2010)
This was written by a critic in around ’06 but has recently resurfaced and been circulated around Chinese webs.
Originally I had intended to write this at a different time. I still have uncertainties in terms of Jaejoong’s pronunciation and breathing.
I want to fully describe and explain the qualities of Jaejoong’s voice and singing before discussing the content below.
Ah this boy Kim Jaejoong never gives me time, he’s always putting me in a rush. I can’t sit still until I write about how great he is.
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I’ve noticed lots of people discussing the different versions of ‘Insa’ and ‘Footsteps’ (Bal geol eum) circulating around the internet, but I’ve not paid much attention to it because I wanted to listen to a more refined version of it before coming to any conclusions. (Also it’s because I strongly dislike listening to audio tracks of bad quality) I waited patiently for the official release.
The reason I tell Jaejoong fans that they should be proud of Kim Jaejoong is because most singers have a shake foundation in terms of their technique and yet Jaejoong’s singing is simply impeccable. His singing is effortless and it is almost regretful that most people are unable to truly grasp how wonderful and amazing he is as a performer. (Unfortunately, this cannot be helped because most people do not understand what it means to be a good singer and it is not a concept that can be realized without first hand experience)
If you think it through carefully, you’ll see that Jaejoong has a natural gift, where others may struggle in singing the same song, he is able to accomplish it without much difficulty.
So who is it that has the true talent? Is it really those who sing so loud that they cough up blood?
Up until now, I do not have a proper explanation for this, yet Jaejoong’s existence has compelled me to look into this matter.
If a simple and mellow song is not sung properly, it may be considered weak.
Songs that require such a great deal of emotion require the performer to lose themselves into the music and this is much harder than one might think.
The emotion behind Whitney Houston’s R&B music is clear and highly conspicuous.
If you look at Yoonsang (Korean singer, composer and producer), his charisma draws the audience’s attention to the song itself. In order to feel the full power of the song, one must listen from beginning to end.
Jaejoong is an artist who understands pitch, rhythm and harmony. If Jaejoong were an artist, he’d first consider the problem of framing is finished piece because a good painter knows that the frame can also impact the outcome of the final piece.
Jaejoong completely understands the song.
He is able to seamlessly combine his own voice with the music, and by the end of it, instead of wondering which verse it was that he performed the best or admiring his flawless delivery, we are left reminiscing about the past; why did we break up with so and so? How are they doing? Has that person forgotten about me? Those were the best days of my life’ etc. His voice reaches the very bottom of our hearts, awakening memories and emotions that we’ve long buried away. The kind of feeling is not that of wildness; it has a comforting effect, liberating us from any torment we may have been enduring.
I’m extremely touched by this song, not because Jaejoong did a good job sing it,
but because listening to the song makes me forget that he’s the person who sung it.
Listening to this song helps me heal and relieves the pain that has been tormenting me. In a split second, I can feel tears welling up in my eyes but I don’t want them to fall.
Allowing the listener to really immerse themselves in his voice, putting them on a roller-coaster ride of emotions. Somebody without a high sense of understanding and vulnerability could not possibly achieve that. It’s like when the audience sheds tears from seeing the actors laugh.
The above are the initial thoughts that came into mind when I heard the song. Jaejoong, young as he is, found a way to elevate the song to such a level, creating a perfect masterpiece. He has the skill of a true artist, using not only previous knowledge and skill, but also adjusting his own mindset and changing his delivery according to the song.
SM artists tend to be good dancers and singers, yet more often than not, they change their style and singing technique according to the public’s taste and interest. It is undeniable that Jaejoong is full of potential, I used to worry that he wouldn’t be able to break free of his constraints, but it seems as though this is unnecessary since, as we all know, he is now free.
Jaejoong has a very good understanding of how this song must be performed. It’s style as a whole is drastically different from what he is used to, yet he managed to pull it off effortlessly in the blink of an eye, so quickly that I almost didn’t have time to express my feelings of awe and amazement.
Being able to understand and really feel music does not only mean knowing how to perform a song, one must also be familiar with the characteristics of the piece.
It is not a matter of flaunting one’s singing ability, it is about helping the people who are watching the movie to immerse themselves in the scene and be moved by it. That is what music is.
Jaejoong achieved this by letting go of the mindset of normal singers and learning that it is not about drawing attention to the singer’s ability. He was true to the nature of the OST.
This song demands the singer to not only sing the song, but to also direct and conduct it. They must decide for themselves how far they wish to carry the character and this cannot be achieved without thorough knowledge and understanding.
One must learn the qualities of the OST and use their voices as though it were an instrument, this is a difficult concept to understand for those who have not experienced it for themselves. Nowadays, the ability of an artist is judged based on the high notes they are able to reach and how well their voices project, how many people are truly able to grasp such feelings and emotions?
How many singers are there out there who have this kind of talent? Jaejoong’s talent has truly rendered me speechless, how unfortunate would I have been if he hadn’t been the one to sing ‘Insa’?
Credits: TVXQBaidu
Trans by: dorfehh@DBSKnights
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“The reason I tell Jaejoong fans that they should be proud of Kim Jaejoong is because most singers have a shake foundation in terms of their technique and yet Jaejoong’s singing is simply impeccable. His singing is effortless and it is almost regretful that most people are unable to truly grasp how wonderful and amazing he is as a performer. ”
I’m not. 🙂
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