Hahahaha……I love Ren. I always imagine JJ as Ren, and now I am having someone else as Ren…huhuhuhu.
Not a terrible option though, but I will always consider my JJ as my Ren.
@MINMIN
yesterday I told u I will sneak in and cut the electricity of your house at the time of GAPP guess what my hose internet got cut the whole night. 😦
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
oh no,sorry to hear that,is it because the bad weather or what?how isn the weather on your side ?I hope it’s not cold too much..Is everything ok now,sister?
@MINMIN
sis everything ok now. weather is not too cold and there is no snow,my friend are dying cos they want to see the snow.how is the weather at your place sis
I found this page with some great drills. I suggest you try the drills (listed on the left menu bar) in the opposite order from which they’re listed, because the ones at the top are more complex than the ones at the bottom. BTW, these are listening drills, so don’t do them at work! So in this order:
If you are struggling, just watch this and take heart. Learning a new language is difficult for everyone, and even if your pronunciation isn’t perfect, you’ll eventually make yourself understood, and little by little it’ll become better if you just keep at it.
Junsu: I’m so glad I got to share this evening with you.
Jaejoong: Thank you for everything…I want to see you guys again. Thank you.
Yoochun: We’re so glad you guys are keeping the faith always. We really appreciate it. Thank you LA! Are you guys ready for the last song?
@ MINMIN: You were there????? OMG…you are a lucky one!
I didn’t write mine in details….my fault. I was referring to JJ’s effort in saying started and ended up with star did…star did video. Hilarious!
@I was there to see them at the Performing Arts / the Planet Hollywood & at USC Galen Center /LA for *JYJ -THE BEGINNING US 2010 SHOWCASE TOUR*;and I was there at Nokia Theatre LA / Los Angeles, California for *JYJ THE 2011 WORLD TOUR*…
but still not enough for me ,for us ,
When will they be back here,for another concert…?
@ MINMIN: O….(gaping)
But I haven’t even seen them….not even once!…I will trade myself with you if I can see them just once, the way you did….
I feel so sad now……(running to the darkest corner, weeping)
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever
you’ll have a chance to see them one day,just believe it ,dear
come here,I give you some *hugs*,don’t be sad,ok,just be there and waiting…
😀
ᄏ [k] e.g. 코 [ko] nose
ᄐ [t] e.g. 타다 [tada] to burn
ᄑ [p] e.g. 포도 [podo] grape
ᄒ [h] e.g. 하다 [hada] to do
ᄎ [ch] e.g. 고추 [gochu] pepper
List of Vertical Basic Vowels:
ㅏ [a] similar to the ‘a’ in ‘want’ e.g. 아이 [ai] kid
ㅓ [eo] similar to the ‘o’ in ‘done’ e.g. 어른 [eoreun] adult
ㅣ [i] similar to the ‘ee’ in ‘keep’ e.g. 이름 [ireum] name
List of Horizontal Basic Vowels:
ㅗ [o] similar to the ‘o’ in ‘toe’ e.g. 오이 [oi] cucumber
ㅜ [u] similar to the ‘u’ in ‘rude’ e.g. 우유 [uyu] milk
ㅡ [eu] similar to the ‘u’ in ‘push’ e.g. 드럼 [teureom] drum
I saw some people talking about this song, Nine, in another post.
I’m sure people have talked about it here before, but I’m new and really want to know what you guys think, so I’m asking this again anyway. 😛 In your opinions what is the meaning behind this song Jaejoong composed? ^^
Err…..That JJ, due to the time, is growing up to be a different person than he used to be. That he needs to find what he wants before he can claim his love, before he let the girl knows his love for her?
I have to admit, I heard the ‘nine years since DBSK met’ explanation and never looked further. I like the song but I haven’t gotten around to reading the translated lyrics yet. ^///^
It gets more complicated than that (^_~) The timing doesn’t work out right. DBSK members met each other at different points and not at the same time. Jaejoong said in one interview that “It’s been 9 years since Yoochun joined us” and went on to explain how he used the first piano tunes Yoochun taught him years ago in the song. But… I think he really shouldn’t have said that, because he first met Yoochun in May-June 2003, and the song was composed some time before the world wide concert in Seoul (November 2010) when it was performed the first time.
Oh silly Jaejoong, it wouldn’t have been messy if he hadn’t said that LOL ^^
@wickedangel: nod.. that’s why all
the yjshipper out there think that
this song cleary made for Yunho..
referring to the song’s title “nine”
they have thought that 9 is the
number of years jaejoong has
been along with Yunho, because
they get trainning at the same
time.. they always think until this
DAY yunho still come to Jaejoong
place to sleep over.. YunJae
shipper is pschyo!!
@ putrihs:
YJ freaks will think anything related to YJ. They even think that Yunho’s latest mags photo with a girl is way better with JJ.
@#%&#*$(!
I just had a nice discussion with JY fans. They were so surprised that I call myself anti YJ. One can’t even grasp the idea.
Can you believe it?
I tried to talk them out…but not in a straightforward way.
@Jae& JYJ: u mean in cosmo
magz? wooowwww.. clap!! i
haven’t visit any DB5K site
anymore, people in there are
getting nuts.. they’re always
posting an old photos, old
videos, even when i try to posting
some new news about 2VXQ or
JYJ no one responds, they seems
do not want to care anymore
about the state of HoMin and JYJ
now.. its so painful..
@ wicked angel (@WickedAngel4)
9 years was the time he met JS, and for mixed up about the time..we -humans being sometimes make that mistake,so,if you love him enough to be a fan of JYJ,dont count whatever mistake he did ,or listen to the comments from * the other side* …
@Minmin
As I said, I was curious and wanted to know what other people think. ^^ It is a rather perilous line I’m walking here, so please PLEASE take my word for it that I don’t mean any harm whatsoever. ^^ About what you said, actually there was no account of JJ meeting JS in 2001, let alone them two immediately becoming close to each other. They were in different training groups, and the DBSK member whom JS was closest with during his training days was YH.
Also, in my opinion, the mistake JJ made is not about the time or the title of the song, but rather in his subsequent explanation – again as I said, I think he shouldn’t have said what he said in that interview. Of course none of this is important; it’s a wonderful song and the feeling it conveys is beautiful, which is all that matters. I hope it’s not a childish thing to say, but to my defense I wasn’t criticizing him for that mistake – I was just stating out what I think, in a quite affectionate way I might add. (^_~)
I came across a discussion on Nine in another post here in JYJ3, in which someone said that Nine was composed for JYJ fans. It never occurred to me that way before, that’s why I asked for you guys’ opinions again here. ^^ For a millionth time, I didn’t mean to sound spiteful or provocative or anything, and if for some unfortunate reasons it turned out that way, my sincerest apologies. ^^
meh after reading the lyrics, i always figured it was him putting his relationship with dbsk in lyric form…and weaving it into a love story or w/e
….honestly…it could be about Yunho and their friendship…but no i do not think YJ is real LOL….what i mean is, assuming Yunho & Jae were really close friends/brothers before the lawsuit, then this could be about their relationship…bc honestly, a broken friendship of so many years can hurt as much as the end of a romantic relationship….im speaking from experience here…so dont twist my words lol.
Loosing a significant friendship is painful and it does break your heart, obviously the love is different between a romantic relationship & a friendship, but like i said, similar pain can be felt. So assuming this song is based on the end of yh-JJ frienship, I think JJ could have used that as a basis to write a song like “Nine”, that seems 2 apply 2 a romantic relationship. I mean, he wrote In Heaven in memory of his friend who passed, and if you read the lyrics to “In Heaven”, it sounds like a love song,so he could have done the same here. ^__^
i agree with you! i always thought that if he really did write this song for yunho. it is because they are close friend. there is a possibility that he really did write this song for yunho but i am not saying that yunjae is real. i just thought that they could really be super close, like they are brothers.
it can also be a song for DB5K and not for yunho only.
i agree with @wicked angel. if he haven’t said that about yoochun joining, maybe, this wouldn’t be messy.
well, whatever the reason is, love the man, love the song, its great.
lol. Since Jae standing in the middle between Yoochun n Junsu so is pretty hard to get Yoosu moment. lmao.
Sometimes I wish they’ll switched the one in the middle, maybe today is Jae turn and next is Yoochun and another times Junsu. It will be interesting ^^
They should do that sometimes; mix and match.
@bookthiefj:
You should watch COO. It has one of the best YooSu moments of all time in it. Su and his inability to properly define personal space is very much loved!
“Su and his inability to properly define personal space is very much loved!”
HAHAHA. This make me remember of the scene in COO when YooSu watching something from Yoochun’s blackberry and suddenly he jump or hug Yoochun so tightly , love the scene. adorable boys ^^
@gigi that scene is so much love, it seem YC is on lovely message with someone Junsu know by his face and ask all the way,when YC show Junsu jump on him and then lovingly look at YC.
if u look past Junsu cuteness,is really heart warming how Junsu happy that YC is happy and ongoing lovely chatting with someone.
@gigi
the fruit event,I was screaming in my head”yah park yoochun eat that fruit,I will eat poison if junsu feed me like that” but Junsu seem to make YC eat foods that are not tasty as he mention. Look at this nato event
LOLO, yeah, Su is always like that, there is this one time when they are being interviewed together *i think it is one of there couple talk* Su just LOL-ed on yoochun’s face. there is a moment i thought there gonna kiss because Su keeps on being too close with yoochun. and he will suddenly jumps to yoochun.
@izh
” Su just LOL-ed on yoochun’s face. there is a moment i thought there gonna kiss because Su keeps on being too close with yoochun. and he will suddenly jumps to yoochun.”
Just please, PLEASE remember that every single move the members made during those years was orchestrated by SME. Fan service? Orchestrated and dictated by SME. Overly intimate touching, etc etc? Orchestrated by SME.
@lili True, but since they’re no longer controlled by SME, and Junsu still gets overly close on occasion, maybe that’s just how he is when he’s laughing.
Lol, this made me remember the ‘near kiss’ when JJ and YC went to say something in each other’s ear during a concert. That was too funny. Junsu was just like, “What’s going on? Why’s everyone laughing?”
Btw, I love the hug which JJ gave to YC….could see the strong friendship and bond that they both shared…I just LOVE these 3 guys…Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu. Keep fighting, JYJ!
I remember that! lol Didn’t Jae also once break a hammer on Junsu’s head?
I don’t think those hollow plastic hammers can hurt that bad though, even at full force. They even have crinkles in the sides to absorb some of the impact. Besides, as young guys living together way back when…I’m sure they hurt each other far worse at times just horsing around.
junsu’s smile is beautiful…and its also one of the reasons ‘angel xiah’ is haunting him till now!lol!..coz whenever he smiles…he somehow looks like a child?
I love the whole thanksgiving concert specially the opening and ending part. So touching… I hope they’ll do another tokyo dome concert soon and record it.
At that time JJ and YC were promoting as a duo for the Colours – Melody & Harmony/Shelter single, and Tohoshinki had not split yet so they were all still under Avex. Subsequently all 3 left SM together, JJ, YC and Su.
Uh, did you happen to skip all the other updates? There are many posts on JYJ’s FB and concert, Yoochun’s drama, and Junsu’s musical right now.
Granted, posts about JJ will probably increase since it’s nearing his birthday, but that’s true for all the members. Not sure what you are trying to get at by posting that comment.
Are you trying to stir something?
I may have Jaejoong as my DP but I just go around, from one post to another, be it Junsu, YC or JYJ and I think most us do, I don’t find exclusivity here, it’s JYJ3 so it’s for the three of them.
wth?
You should know about this site better, do some research about this site!
This sites for Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu! There’s no exclusivity in here. This site for JYJ
man!!! hate fans like you, stop being an immature kid. Growth up and find something better to do. should i complain that Yc post get <100 comments? should i complain that there is so much Js post here? shut up and dont pretend to be a jyj fans but try to stir something here. if you only like junsu or yoochun. move your ass to their individual blog like Withjunsu or 6sky something.
LOL @HM
you’re 100% crazy for Jaejoong, was that you who comment about Jae’s pants at the other post?
Thanks for sharing, we will talk more about Jaejoong’s pants next time.
@ Ahni: That’s because you haven’t visited other posts my dear.
Care to spend your time with quality reading before next accusation?
Ooppps….not accusation probably, just some due-to-misinformed comment, righto?
@Ahni: agree with @Jae&JYJ.. u better take alook around first.. in previous page u can see mannyy chunsas and xiahpaws too.. hopefully you will enjoy it.. have fun!!
If i was wrong, my bad then, it just seemed that way 😦 But thank you guise for lettin me kno different. I am a huge fan of JYJ, I just wanted to see equal love shown for all three. You all seem like cool girls, I meant no offense or err *accusations*. Peace.
@wickedangel: nod.. that’s why all the yjshipper out there think that this song cleary made for Yunho.. referring to the song’s title “nine” they have thought that 9 is the number of years jaejoong has been along with Yunho, because they get trainning at the same time.. they always think until this DAY yunho still come to Jaejoong place to sleep over.. YunJae shipper is pschyo!!
yes they are!! once when i was still going around in DB5K site.. i always get sick with all those Fanfic, YJ photoshop, and all the shit things about YunJae..
You know, they seems unable to noticed which one is already as passed and history , which one is future or present.
They used all old videos, fanfic, photoshop photos and bla bla to fulfill their desire.
What make me pissed is, they always connect everything to YJ things. They said JYJ’s song is for YH and bla bla. geez.
@ gigiku sakit: We have many in Indonesia…..can you believe it? I think if JYJ is to have a concert in Indonesia, something must be done to prevent their madness..
I know. It’s pathetic they insist to ignore the truth and continue to live under their own imagination. They obviously read too much fan fiction.
I know it sound a bit cruel but when JYJ canceled their concert in indonesia last year, to be honest I feel relieved.
I believed the crazy shipper will bring YJ banner or shouting the “other guy” name in front of JJ face.
You know what? that only bring sadness to Jaejoong.
Jaejoong is not gay. End it there.
@ gigikusakit: Honestly…..I am not ready for any JYJ concert or Jaejoong’s fans meeting too…not even this year~
My heart is bleeding saying this but that is the truth.
Should we make a rally……Don’t come here JYJ or Jaejoong! Indonesia is full of weirdos!
I will surely slap a face which mouth dare saying disrespectful words to Jaejoong. And that will break JJ’s heart.
sorry to came out suddenly but i truly i agree with u guys
i don’t mind it at all if JYJ not gonna held any concert in Indonesia
yes i get hurt when i knew that they cancel it but after that i truly felt so glad because in here to many YJ shippers
seems i made mistake again.. sorry.. this comment suppose to be under @Wicked Angel comment, the one with @Seohbehrin ask about the meaning behind “nine” song.. idk whats wrong with my cursor and mouse.. 😦
Girl I almost got brainwashed by some of them. They’re unbelievable… It’s clear as water there’s no REAL ROMANCE between them.. YJ was like some of the best OTP there. e.g OHMIYA (from arashi) which from what I’ve observed did much skinship and intense stares than YJ. ^^v
@putrihs Initially, I thought this “Yunjae” shippings was lovely when I was watching the old vids as I wanted to know about JYJ. But as times goes by and my fondness toward JaeChunSu, especially Jejung, my hate towards Yunjae Shippers grow and it is unstoppable now unless they perish.
I had a debate with Yunjae Shippers sometimes back, one of the reasons they ship, because they knew they could not have nor even get close to Jejung or vice versus.
Of course other reasons, yaoi fantasy….Well you can fantasize but do not bring it to reality, shame on those shippers that has cross the line!
@murasaki: “one of
the reasons they ship,
because they knew they
could not have nor
even get close to Jejung
or vice versus.” » i guess this is the MAIN reason why all the YunJae Shipper out there bcome wild and pathetic.. because they will never ready to see YunJae with a woman, ANY WOMAN. even only for photo shoot or MV.. freak!
@Jae&JYJ: u mean in cosmo magz? wooowwww.. clap!! i haven’t visit any DB5K site anymore, people in there are getting nuts.. they’re always posting an old photos, old videos, even when i try to posting some new news about 2VXQ or JYJ no one responds, they seems do not want to care anymore about the state of HoMin and JYJ now.. its so painful..
@ putrihs: Errr….why are you here? I was looking for your feedback until I saw you down here….
Yes…that Cosmo mags….They are indeed beyond help.
I suppose I just made a girl cried for a while with my words.
I told her she would not stand my reason, but she was so curious for she didn’t get it why I am anti YJ. And there are so many members like her there….
I mean I love them all, 5 of them. Spend my money for JYJ and HoMin’s albums and merchandises.
I will never ever ever ever ever understand what makes them even keep the idea YJ or JaeMin. Before the separation, it is indeed silly and they were young back there. But after the separation….it is totally irrational.
the MC asked them is there any interesting episode when they went to Europe and Junsu answered about Picasso , he said that he went to Picasso museum but cannot understand the artwork. Yoochun adding by saying Junsu said that Picasso’s drawing is like what he (Junsu) drew in 6th grade (lmao).
Yoochun suddenly mentioned “Pikachu” (lol he’s in his own world as usual)
after that the MC asked if there any moment again? Junsu said there is, I think Junsu said that he went out with JJ but YC chose to stay in hotel. Yoochun doesn’t want went out and drinking at his hotel room. In the last part , YC and JJ said Japanese beer is the most delicious one.
@1:50 I wish they’d fix that one typo though: “We can be successful on all fours / corners of the world with more world / tours”
With ‘fours’ inappropriately pluralized and the way the sentence is cut to fit the screen, it looks like they’re talking about something else really really bad! /(O_O )\
@shadow
ROFL I am laughing non stop. they were so funny and clueless. hey do u know the “dangerous love NG” where jae laughing cos he claim he see his image in YC eyes. and “dating on earth”m soulmates NGs
Welcome mh34nluvsJJ
(you have a very difficult name to type,lol)
Beware : JYJ3 is so addictive
I’m always switching to JYJ3 window even if I’m busy, doing a peek a boo!
Thank You!
I know i’ve been on this 28 times today!!
It’s hard not to check this site!!!
they are so fast! i admire the admins..
you can type mhean to make it easier.. LOLz…
As u can see I love JJ..
but sadly every time me and my friends do a cover dance whether it is DBSK or JYJ i’ll end-up not doing JJ’s Part
Welcome, and enjoy JYJ3! We are like nowhere else on the web and no other fansite because we all like each other so much, in addition to having fascinating discussions about everything imaginable JYJ every single day.
@mh34n: Welcome to JYJ home.. 🙂 no Shipper please.. *im just kidding* bdw, we Might be Bite sometimes.. BUT i guess, That’s the essence of having a Family, Sisters, and Brothers, we share everything and exchange opinions .. 🙂 enjoy!!
I love the first part of today gif a lot,Jae practically jumped into YC arms YC fall back yoohwan try to catch with wide eye,but YC was able to hold it.I think jae was cutie all around on that day for unknown reason,he lied on junsu lap later.
Hi Ruby, welcome back, it’s been awhile…
Can’t read Japanese, so it’s the 4th choice,
google translate :
In the drama scheduled to air in 2012, rising expectations of what’s best? (29 to 01 Jan 17)
Topics created in 2011 “Dream High 2”
The Jang “Raburein”
Kim Ha Neul’s -T.O.P. “Absolute Boyfriend”
Returning Micky work? “Prince of the room Roof”
Chu won the next generation of stars, “Masked Bride”
The Yuain “Fashion King”
@gigi I mean eng sub or not.
mighty hero have to run to heroine to save her, but hero himself is slipping in fish market, ROFL
may be this time we know answer of,his swimming scene double or not.
There’s no eng sub for this vid yet. I read some news about miss ripley dvd, they said the dvd will including behind the scene of his swimming scene, when YC get guide from swimming trainer. I guess he did the scene by himself
Hi, guys it is me again the newbie. I have some more questions to ask. I hope I am not being a burden to anyone asking so many questions. I love JYJ so much and I am trying to learn as much as I can about them. So when someone saids something on this site that I am not familar with or questions come to my mind I have to ask them. I really appreciate everyone who takes the time to answere my many questions.
1. Why do some people ship JJ and Yunho together? Why do they ship JJ and JC together? I do not know about JJ and Yunho but so far all I see if a deep friendship between JJ and YC. I am not shipping them
I am just curious of the history between them.
2. Did JJ, YC, and JS graduate from highschool (I read somewhere on another post on here that JJ dropped out of junior high to debute)? Did any of them go and or complete college?
3. What does DNBN stand for?
4. Is DNBN a fansite or fanclub?
5. JYJ3 is fansite correct?
6. What is the difference between an admin-polcy fansite and a fansite with members?
7. What was the Hell Gate interview about?
8. When JJ and YC left SM they put out and album under whos management? Where was JS?.
1. I think it start when fans start coupling DBSK back there. YJ shipper always insist that there something more than just friends and brothers relationship between them. They said YH is like a father and JJ is the wife *sigh* YJ shipper is the crazy delusional fans.
Well.. since long time ago, people calls JJ and YC as soulmate. Since the same passion of composing music, same blood type, love fashion etc and they were roomate in dorms. They are like best buddies, so that’s why people call them soulmate.
2. I think JS completed his college/uni, JJ now also in middle completing his degree, YC? I don’t think so. He purposely dropped out from his high school in US so he can get part time job at there.
3. DNBN is a korean fansite. They have registered members and they are pretty big fansite and popular. They used to support DB5K but a while ago they changed and only stand for JYJ. I believed DNBN already did a poll between them before totally switched to JYJ side. Amazing right ? 🙂
4. See my answer on number 3
5. As far as I know, yes. This side is not delusional and support all the 3. I already searched another fansite, and I think JYJ3 is the best one among other sites 🙂
6. You see, JYJ3 site welcome everyone in here. You don’t think to be official member to love or comment in here but you have to respect the rule of this site. While DNBN have official member, you have to registered first.
7. I don’t know about it.
8. JS, YC, JJ filed a lawsuit against their SM Entertainment TOGETHER (in the beginning of August 2009) , you have to know that when they are still DBSK they signed contract under Avex for their Japanese activity. JJ and YC released their album in September 2009 (when they are still as DBSK member) so it’s under Avex.
@flower: I tried to complete the answer about Yunjae, IMO SM created YunJae things only for Fans Service.. as far as i know, Yunho best buddy is Donghae for SuJu. although he was very close to with Jaejoong.. 🙂 i ever read an article which yunho claim himself that so difficult to found a partner because of yunjae shipper things..
1. Well, the SM marketing machine when they were in TVXQ tried to pair off the TVXQ members and ship them as couples.
You;d have couple talks, officially sanctioned fan service. A lot of kpop groups do this but in the TVXQ fandom it was taken to an extreme
Each member was assigned a “role” Jaejoong was the “mother”, Yunho was the “father” and changmin was their kid
You might find it hard to believe when i write this down because it sounds ridiculous but believe me if you venture out of this site (we dont seriously ship anybody here) you will find many people who are incapable of separating JJ from his “umma” image
Seriously
it would be something like this:
Eg. Jaejoong takes picture with a girl
Fangirl: Yunjae is REAL!!!! “Yunnie appa will be jealous”
and this is two years after this group has broken up
o.O
and they will believe anything random people make up on twitter
Jaejoong is naturally a very caring person, and what makes me sad is the very “mother” image that they fit him into is one that is caricatured and stereotypical image of a woman (as a female i hate that they can only attribute those “submissive” qualities to women
When we say Jaechun its purely bromance since their BFFs
2. Yes they did
3 and 4 DNBN is one of the largest TVXQ fansites that turned only JYJ
Before JYJ became JYJ they were DBSK as you might know about this. Those 5 had a very close relationship (brotherly). But due to some circumstances they (JYJ) left the group.
1. JJ when they were in DBSK is the Mother figure of the group and Yunho is the Father figure because that time JJ took so much care to the 4 that made him look motherly. Mother + Father = You do the maths. Those two also have a great relationship (JJ and Yunho) So I think that’s the reason. I dunno about JJ and YC all I know is they refer to themselves as soul mates. I think it’s JJ who is the one that connects those 5 together.
2. JJ graduated from high school but i have no idea if he finished Uni whilst Su and Chun went to Uni but i don’t know if they graduated or not.
3 – 4. I can’t answer that because i’m not certain either.
5. i believe so..
6. can’t answer as i’m newbie here as well
7. Hell Gate is the term used if the other side HoMin (2VXQ) or anti-JYJ gave bad remarks to JYJ, hope i’m right though.
8. I believed that JJ and YC didn’t put out an album without Junsu. If you think that it might have been an OST to drama. EP The… is their first album (i think) that was released in Japan.. The 3 were under Rhythm Zone (Avex Entertainment) then later on was forced to go on hiatus there because of Childish reasons (they were then banned to promote to Japan’s airwaves) 2009 – 2010 is the hardest years for the fans that supports them. Then in 2010 they debut as JYJ under C-Jes Entertainment and Warner Music in Korea.
I hope this helps..
Anyone who read this, please correct me if I’m wrong..
Hm…For no 1. Couple pairing is 1 of SM methods to promote DB5K that time. The first (trial) couple was 2U(Y) Yoochun and Yunho…But didnt get a lot respond. Then follow by YooSu couple. Yunjae couple become famous because of ‘Dangerous Love’ apart from that, In reality world the 2 was really a good friend and some mistaken their friendship ‘more’ than that…..For Soulmate , JJ and Yoochun this two really close to each other. (more like understand and feel dept to each other. Bromance. They have many similar thing, form clothes size, hobby like composing n piano…there’s a long list…)but obviously they really understand each other more than the other members. That’s why they called ‘Soulmate’.
7. The interview about ‘the gesee theory’ come from ChangMin and then Yunho answered in ‘Knee drop Guru’ ….. (Well, actually i thought Hell Gate starts with ‘Keep Your Head Down'(the controversial titles, follow by the lyric and then choreography for that song) fans assuming it for JYJ and then later follow by these interview infamous geese and then Knee drop Guru…)
1. @Juno thanks for the web link. For the 6 years they where with SM before they filed the lawsuit did they get paid anything. I mean literally were they getting paid any money. They were working thier ass off and was not getting paid for alot of activities they should of been paid for. Then they had to pay for alot of expenses they should of not been paying for. Man how were they living?
2. So JJ, YC, JS were in a cosmetic contract but the other guys were not? What happen to that cosmetic contract once they thier contract was ended and they left SM?
3. Was the slave contract they were in was for 13 years?
4. Why would SM market them as couples? That makes know sense to me. I do not understand what they were aiming to gain by marketing them as couples.
5. So Yunho and Chamgmin appears to have not been aware that JJ, YC, JS were filing a lawsuite. I wonder if that really was true.
6. Is C-Jes JYJ managment company or thier agent? I ask because in article the professor wrote recently he stated JYJ signed an agent contract with C-Jes. If this is true then does that mean JYJ is thier own boss and they pay C-Jes to work for them? This is why they have the freedom to choose what they want to do
Super Junior members are known to make out on stage
ShiNee also practices “shipping”
“2. So JJ, YC, JS were in a cosmetic contract but the other guys were not? What happen to that cosmetic contract once they thier contract was ended and they left SM?”
Yes and I dont know
but the court has ruled that the cosmetics contract had nothing to do with the lawsuit but before that antis used to say that they left SM because they were greedy etc etc
but once the court ruling came out they had to shut up
I cant say they didnt get paid ANYTHING but it is true that they were paid a miniscule amount relative to what they earned, and in some instances did not get even that (Eg, Extra payment for mirotic selling 500k)
Some of those “Expenses” are shady and include parking fees of executives
and yes SM did deduct all costs as “expenses”
I know you’re a new fan but I caution you not to believe everything you read about JYJ vs SM case, that not became JYJ vs Homin case. For many new fans and for some older fans as well, it’s so confusing and complicated that it would make your head turn. But to help answer your question:
1. They are actually paid when they were with SM but not enough, the salary they receive is not equal to the time and effort the group exert. How did they survive? Barely. It would be a long responds if I go into detail on how they were paid but it would be enough to say that after working under SM for 6 years, they have nothing under their name— the Audi cars that the members had (still have in the case of Homin) are from SM to show how successful DB5K became. The 5 member lived in one apartment with their manager. Just imagine this, DB5K, the most successful group in Asia, living together in a two bedroom apartment— and Jaejoong sleeping on the living room floor. When they moved to a new “bigger” apartment, the 5 members were sleeping in one bedroom. You get the picture…
2. The cosmetic contract is more complicated and I would leave that for people who know better. To scratch the surface, it was said that SM didn’t approve the investment JYJ put into Crebeau and anti used Crebeau as a reason to malign JYJ and also the cosmetic company. Korean court ruled that Crebeau had nothing to do with DB5k split. Again, this would be a very long post if we go into details.
3. YES, 13 years EXCLUDING their 2-year military service!!!
4. You familiar with Yaoi? A bromance story that’s so popular in East Asia… SM used that to attract more fan girls and they found a gold mine from it since Yunjae became the biggest couple followed by YooSu.
5. That’s what Homin claims now, that they don’t know about the lawsuit. It was magnified by JYJ antis and that’s why Homin fans claims that JYJ are betrayers. But there were rumors too that says they were planning to leave as five but Homin were asking for more time but JYJ saw the urgency to it. Frankly, we would never know the truth that happened behind close doors and what transpired between the 5 members unless all of them unanimously tell the true story, not the they-said-he-said scenario.
6. JYJ works with C-Jes, not works for C-Jes. It’s a management arrangement, I think. All inquiries, projects, offers, etc. about JYJ goes to C-Jes but it needs to be approved by JYJ. Unlike before that SM dictates what they can and cannot do and work them to death. So you’re right, they are free to do what they like now… they have more freedom to do what they like.
Link: http://gam-mag.jp/2012/01/18/poll-51/
Actors you want to appear on the cover of the mag~ JYJ keeps on winning these polls but I haven’t seen them on the mag cover yet. but vote away if you have free time~
voting period is : January 18, 2012 @ 13:01
February 05, 2012 @ 23:00
as of now JYJ is 95%, I think it has not been found yet by another fandom.
2vxq 2%, SJ 1%, shinee 1%
voted.
thank you! more info :
Hallyu fans visiting Shin-Okubo can get around just by foot, along Okubo Street. (Meiji Street Junction Okubo 2-chome from Shin-Okubo JR Station / About 500m) All 56 street lampposts lined there have “Miss Ripley Flags” hanging on them. Of course, the reverse side has Yoochun (printed) on them! From this weekend onwards, Okubo Street will make you want to call it “Miss Ripley Street” !? (19 Jan 2012 – 15 Feb 2012)
In addition, visible from the street in front of the entrance of Don Quijote Shinjuku branch (along Shoku-an Street), which has approximately 20,000 visitors a day, “Miss Ripley” videos will be played 56 times a day (from 19 Jan 2012 – 18 Feb 2012).
Hi, I’ve been stalking this site heaps for JYJ news and decided I can’t keep on silently lurking xD
I love JYJ to bits and am excited to become part of the JYJ family ^^ Hahaha right now I’m refreshing this site every few seconds for the translation of Jaejoongs tweet XDD
@hya♥JJlove
pervert mode is contagious,when I am watching Junsu musical press conference vid,when his pants come on screen my attention to facial acting is lost.
[NEWS] Big Bang and JYJ, most wanted on TV for Lunar New Year holiday
An online lecture website conducted a survey on “Which boy bands are most wanted on TV during the Lunar New Year’s holiday?”. The survey had 1173 participants.
The survey results placed Big Bang at first place with 556 votes which was 48% of all the votes. JYJ came in second with 173 votes (15% of all the votes).
It was commented that, “It has been a long time since Big Bang appeared on TV. Even at the music awards ceremonies held at the end of the year, Big Bang did not make an appearance, because of some problems. Therefore, the fans are hoping to see the group at least during the Lunar New Year’s day.”
Also, for JYJ, it was said that, “Because it is only possible to see JYJ on commercials here and there and at their concerts, the fans’ hope to see them on TV is growing.”
Meanwhile, Big Bang is scheduled for their comeback in March, and JYJ is scheduled for their world tour concerts in Chile and Peru on March 9th and 11th.
As the saying goes : “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”
but long absence makes the heart forget,
It’s good JYJ is so innovative to cover up their absence on TV.
Hi! ^^
Chunsas are what Yoochun’s fans call themselves, no matter if they are Korean or international fans. Same thing with Xiahpwas and Junsu.
Jaejoong’s fans don’t have an official name. I don’t think Korean JJ fans have their own name, but Jades of Jae’d is the older name for international JJ fans, and thus I believe it’s still considered more official. Some international JJ fans now refer to themselves as Jaeharem, and personally I like this name better. ^^ Chinese JJ fans call themselves Pollen.
Had read on facebook that a group called cassiopeia is planing a “project” to bring dbsk back as 5
They try to find people which attend the Southamerica concerts from JYJ and tell them to
hold panels with TVXQ5 names and pictures + to scream Dong Bang Shin Ki during their
perfomances there.
How selfish and stupid can this people be. That will be JYJ concerts not DBSKs.
And such things will not bring them back as 5 but will give JYJ a lot of pain.
Why they cant accept the situation like it is now.
The lawsuit is still going on, a lot things were happend and much painful things were said.
They can’t be back to normal so easily only because some fans want it.
Only time will tell.
@serinade
i hate reading stuff like this, knowing i cant do anything about it. >:Z
yes, this is an extremely selfish thinking on their part, i’m really sad that SM has caused such irrevocable damage to JYJ.
not to mention placing innocent fans into delusional modes for life. only they can wise up and change their thinking.
or JYJ has to do something big. like spill the beans during the concert or something. but i dont know if that should happen. gosh.
i think for every sick group out there, there should be a anti-group to counter such unnecessary behavior!! if any happens.
This is kinda silly but when will the adminnies change the banner? I’m waiting for that to happen but I guess @hazeword is busy right now. I was planning to debut my new and scary avatar when the banner changed… LOL!!!
@miranda… I know I I know (again!!!) I promised an avatar debut last week but I was timing it with the change of JYJ3 banner after reaching 19million hits but it didn’t happen.
awww..the poem was beautiful!^^
she should so tweet this to him!!
or better not, since he’s such a rare visitor..
maybe emailing/snailmailing would be a better idea!
As you may..or may not know (I don’t remember)…I (think) I have shared here before my love of After School’s original five members. Now its just horrible. A valuable member left and then she was replaced. The new girl decided she wanted to be an actress instead so they added two girls when she left as well and now its an ‘open group’ were members can be added (initiated) and tossed aside *cough* Did I say that? I meant once they want to leave they “graduate”. Recently there was the “experiment” of ASBlue and ASRed which were temporary sub-groups made from the main group. There is also the cutesy-puke god-awful Orange Caramel, another sub-group. They produced the disaster that is ‘Shanghai Romance’…yeah…..This is NOT the original AS but what could I expect right?
I thought people would just get over it but I was watching an original video of them on Youtube and this comment really surprised me:
“After School Fans: Keep watching the older original videos of the girls. These are videos prior to the the release of Bekah. If total hits can reach 2 million, the girls from After School will know that they command a solid fan base. At that point they will be marketable and the girls can leave Pledis and either go independent or negotiate with another Agency. We the fans have the responsibility to support them. The girls have given us all they had. Now it is our turn.”
I was like O_O I thought us JYJ fans were the only ones that said stuff like that. I was really pleased. I know its just a comment on Youtube but I’m glad people are starting to think about the idols instead of just making dumb passive aggressive comments when things go wrong. The girls aren’t the best thing since sliced bread but the original five had spunk and potential. I really miss them too.
@MIA2 sincerely I don’t know the group but I understand the comment that is why korean entertainment want to ban JYJ because their freedom disease is contagious
I just want to share this news since most of us are users of Megaupload.
Hacktivist Group Anonymous Take Down Government, Music Industry Websites
Following the shutdown of Megaupload, the collective retaliated by shutting down websites for the RIAA, MPAA and the Department of Justice, just to name a few.
Minutes after U.S. authorities shut down file-sharing website Megaupload, hacktivist group Anonymous retaliated.
The online group Anonymous successfully hacked into the websites for the Department of Justice, RIAA, Motion Picture Association of America and Universal Music Group on Thursday. The websites for performing rights organization BMI and Warner Music Group were also taken down.
other related news :
U.S. Authorities Shut Down Megaupload for Piracy
Justice department drops the hammer on Megaupload, arresting its leaders, seizing hundreds of millions of dollars in property and blasting the popular file-sharing website in a 72-page indictment. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/megaupload-shut-down-piracy-283397
@kris
“Hacktivist Group Anonymous Take Down Government, Music Industry Websites”
I hate to be a wet blanket on all the fun but this was the most counterproductive possible move. This showed those in the U.S. congress that they are dealing with dangerous, lawless people intent on and fully capable of hacking into sensitive areas, possibly including those of national security. So right away, this only strengthens the position of the people who want these bills passed by a factor of about 100. Nice going, anonymous. I’d almost think you were really working for the other side you’ve been so helpful to them.
sigh. I just don’t know what to say. The groups that are “going after” piracy just don’t seem to get the picture. All use of the word “you” in this rant is the non-specific, generalize, non-personal ‘you’, not directed at anyone here at JYJ3.
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You can’t “lose money” on product that people will not buy at the current price…
You can’t “lose money” on product that people cannot buy because it is not made available to them…
Get with the program. Make your product available and reasonably priced, aka do the job better than the pirates, and suddenly you won’t have such a problem, cause people will come to YOU to get their content, not to the pirates.
Depending on the “area” of infringement you are talking about, there are different reasons for why people don’t buy it, but the those two points above “can’t afford” or “can’t get” seem to always be the common denominator. Japanese anime piracy is big business, why? cause they don’t make it easily available to international viewers, who want to be customers but have no legal way to access it (and this is one reason i love crunchyroll so much, they went from being on the wrong side, to doing their best to prove the market, sure there are hiccups but they are doing a pretty good job so far). Honestly I think a lot of us would subscribe to an online streaming site that legally allowed video streaming of tv shows, movies, etc, for decent subscription rates (the per episode pricing seems always to be too expensive in the models I’ve seen), and also make the darn stuff available internationally, not just in one country (hulu, anyone?)
I’ve been watching this stuff evolve for years, it’s part of my job, and all I can do is shake my head at how “the powers that be” try to “fix” the problem and make all sorts of silly claims about lost revenue and damage and such, when they make no real effort to actually resolve the issues that are causing the piracy in the first place. If you make stuff available and cheap enough, people WILL buy it. But now you have to overcome a ‘get it for free’ mentality that you have allowed to develop by making your products unavailable or expensive as hell.
YES HULU!!! T.T
i’m tired of them saying we’re still working on this..sigh..
on one hand i feel impatient, on the other, i know its probably a tough job…gahrghararhajrh~
@flutterby
“i’m tired of them saying we’re still working on this..sigh..”
I totally and completely recommend Dramafever.com. They are the best of the best. And do subscribe. The service is by far the best there is, and is a stupidly great bargain at the price if you’re like me and you watch a lot of dramas.
🙂
@springbok7
“But now you have to overcome a ‘get it for free’ mentality that you have allowed to develop by making your products unavailable or expensive as hell. le sigh. /rant”
Good post, good post. I especially agree with the final line, above. It goes to show the inherent arrogance and intractability of record companies worldwide–wanting it ALL their own way, unwilling to be realistic about changing times and technologies. For me it was just as you said — “can’t afford” or “can’t get” –but overwhelmingly, I have to say, it’s been “can’t get.” There is no possible way the content I have wanted has been available to me anywhere.
Because I have searched long and hard. And so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what will happen. But I have to tell you that if it comes down that way, it’s going to make me fighting mad to have to pay some exorbitant YesAsia price to get ONE SONG I like on an OST CD when no individual tracks are for sale anywhere (like iTunes) on the net.
😦
It seems that many times, it was only through piracy that they learned where there was a foreign market. Anime, jpop, and now kdramas and kpop…They certainly weren’t trying to expand to a world market themselves until other countries’ interest was already proven.
@Linnea, oh god girlfriend, you have hit the nail SQUARELY on the head with the whole chicken and egg deal when it comes to j/k-dramas and anime, and even music I think.
I live in a place where we have always been fortunate to have access to ~some~ japanese programming, and lately also korean programming, on the television. But I’ll tell you one thing, i know for a fact (because I called the local station up and ASKED) that the content that the NGN channel in hawaii used to provide (15 years ago before the internet was as big as now) was flown out on VHS tapes every single day! yes, you read that right, some poor smuck had to transport the damn tapes on a plane every day. So we had a day or two time delay from when the broadcast was made in japan to when we could see it here. Those were the days when “fansubbing” consisted of getting on some secret mailing list, and having some sweet wonderful person mail you vhs tapes of the program.
Would any of the vast audiences now enjoying j/k-dramas and anime have been possible without those first baby steps? I seriously doubt it. People take the internet for granted now, and the ability to have content at their fingertips, like with dramafever, crunchyroll, and hulu, but without those early stages, no one would have known that there was a market for these products outside their native areas. When you really think about it, it’s utter foolishness. I really don’t understand why media-producers have to make region licensing agreements and crap like that. I mean hell, I can remember going to visit my grandparents in S.A. and being amazed at the “fabulous” programming they had (Nightrider and Kids Incorporated HAHAHAH! shuddup i was ~7 i think =P ) that was broadcast-delay BUT at least broadcast, and this is mid-1980s i’m talking about. My bro and I used to be very disappointed to go home cause those shows were not available at home in the UK.
@Lili, the dark side about what you’re talking about: how will you even know if you like a song, if you can’t access it to listen to it in the first place? Cause I am in the same dilemma as you. There are TONS of music/shows that I like and want to see, but they are unavailable to me either due to region issues (they are made in korea/japan) or licensing issues (for show X, hulu has an agreement to have only 5 shows up at a time, and whoopsie I didn’t know they’d started uploading the show and now I’ve lost my chance to see the first two-thirds of the bloody season!) or even worse, region AND licensing issues: my bro hates me cause I can watch stuff legally on hulu but he can’t cause he isn’t in the US.
Even JYJ is a prime example for me. I fell in love with them cause I saw them on Youtube. Then I wanted to listen to them without the video. So i looked for their music. Downloaded. Listened. And listened. and OMG i love these guys, went on a paced shopping spree and bought a copy of every album they’ve made as JYJ, bought as many of the dvds as I could find and afford, and now am stalking their OSTs (still recovering from COO purchase so pacing myself LOLOL!). But would I have EVER found them if it weren’t for the internet? nope not a chance. Would I have learned about SKKS? Maybe, cause I know it’s available to me on hulu and crunchyroll, but would I have actually watched it (being that i’m not a drama-fanatic)? probably not.
So yeah, “freely” as in “widely” available content is important for building your market, and also making that content easily obtainable is critical to sustaining your market. I happily pay ~$8 a month for hulu, and watch what I can there, just to support them. I cough up more for my crunchyroll premium all-access membership (~$12 a month, or $8.32 if you get the annual $100 a year membership), but again, I then have access to a good spectrum of anime, as well as a decent amount of k-dramas (too bad their j-dramas are a bit lacking, but I shall be a patient customer LOL!) The reason I’m listing these subscription rates is to give some comparison versus “per episode” rates that itunes etc charge. Anyone who watches many shows really can’t afford per episode rates that are more than $0.50 to $1, but even those can add up. I mean, for example, take the Japanese anime Bleach or Naruto, or Lost, or Fringe, or any other show that goes on for many years. Naruto has a total of some 245 episodes as Shippuden with 220 episodes for the original Naruto, Bleach is about to release ep 357, and Lost has 121 episodes. Can you imagine paying even $1 per episode? That would mean those two anime would cost you $822 with another $121 for Lost, add in a few of those korean saeguk that go on for a million episodes and my god it’s time to mortgage your house!
In my eyes, the subscription model works the best, though I am sure there are circumstances under which it is not ideal. But ideally, a situation where a multitude of shows/movies are available immediately for a price, and on a delayed basis for free, where the licensing is such that the entirety of shows is available (at least for the subscribers) and not just a portion of the season at a time, for that website, I’d be willing to plop down more than just $10 a month. I mean hell, if I could get such international programming streamed to my house to watch when *I* want to, i’d drop my cable subscription and gladly put the $100 a month that bastard costs me towards it.
holy crap, just realized how long this turned out to be. Loads more i could say but i think I’ll stop here for now LOL!
“When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.”~Lao Tzu~
“When one door closes another door opens; but we so
often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed
door, that we do not see the ones which open for us.”~Alexander Graham Bell~
“Don’t let your mind bully your body into
believing it must carry the burden of its worries.”~Astrid Alauda~
“Inner peace can be reached only when we practice
forgiveness. Forgiveness is letting go of the past,
and is therefore the means for correcting our misperceptions.”~Gerald Jampolsky~
“You cannot let go of anything if you cannot notice
that you are holding it. Admit your ‘weaknesses’ and
watch them morph into your greatest strengths.”~Neale Donald Walsch~
“Breathe. Let go. And remind yourself that this very moment
is the only one you know you have for sure.”~Oprah Winfrey~
“Think about any attachments that are depleting
your emotional reserves. Consider letting them go.”~Oprah Winfrey~
“One problem with gazing too frequently into the past is
that we may turn around to find the future has run out on us.”~Michael Cibenko~
“People have a hard time letting go of their suffering.
Out of a fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar.”~Thich Nhat Hanh~
“Suffering is not holding you. You are holding suffering.
When you become good at the art of letting sufferings go,
then you’ll come to realize how unnecessary it was for you
to drag those burdens around with you. You’ll see that no
one else other than you was responsible. The truth is that
existence wants your life to become a festival.”~Osho~
“The harder you fight to hold on to specific assumptions,
the more likely there’s gold in letting go of them.”~John Seely Brown~
“Truly loving another means letting go of all expectations. It
means full acceptance, even celebration of another’s personhood.”~Karen Casey~
“It’s not the daily increase but daily decrease.
Hack away at the unessential.”~Bruce Lee~
“Absorb what is useful. Discard what is not.
Add what is uniquely your own.”~Bruce Lee~
hello
Hehe, every night I stalk the GAPP then have to wait for someone else to post first so I don’t ruin the fun with my Study Group post!
MINMIN…..you are a real stalker!
Congrats!
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever
Hey *skipbeatfangirl* ,thanks…
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Hahahaha……I love Ren. I always imagine JJ as Ren, and now I am having someone else as Ren…huhuhuhu.
Not a terrible option though, but I will always consider my JJ as my Ren.
😀 hey hey stalker sis 😀
@springbok7,sister,oh,few weeks ago ,you were #1 stalker ,remember ?I’m your sister …so….
😀
wooww @MINMIN again? are u the new admin dear?? heheehehehee..
@putrihs,hello,hello,i’m just a stalker….who love your adm. so so much…
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@MINMIN
yesterday I told u I will sneak in and cut the electricity of your house at the time of GAPP guess what my hose internet got cut the whole night. 😦
@zan: lol.. we called it Karma dear.. don’t think bad about someone or something.. that bad things will back to yourself. 🙂
@putrihs
karma like to strike me most,if I say little bad or do or think it straightly come back to me
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
oh no,sorry to hear that,is it because the bad weather or what?how isn the weather on your side ?I hope it’s not cold too much..Is everything ok now,sister?
@MINMIN
sis everything ok now. weather is not too cold and there is no snow,my friend are dying cos they want to see the snow.how is the weather at your place sis
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
it’s cold over here ,but we don’t have snow in my city ….*never ever*…
We gonna have rain in the next couple days…
Well my litle @MINMIN, you must be doing something right. Pretty soon, you’ll be making a name for yourself! 🙂 You’re on a roll, my little chickadee!
@Mommy,I’ll make you proud of me…
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*hugs*
@sam-sam @Sapphire @anva
where are you ,Sisters?
*hugs *
KOREAN STUDY GROUP
Hangul Exercise!
I found this page with some great drills. I suggest you try the drills (listed on the left menu bar) in the opposite order from which they’re listed, because the ones at the top are more complex than the ones at the bottom. BTW, these are listening drills, so don’t do them at work! So in this order:
Completion
Discrimination 2
Discrimination 1
Listen & Repeat
http://hompi.sogang.ac.kr/korean/kkl100/lesson03/index.html
If you are struggling, just watch this and take heart. Learning a new language is difficult for everyone, and even if your pronunciation isn’t perfect, you’ll eventually make yourself understood, and little by little it’ll become better if you just keep at it.
Junsu: I’m so glad I got to share this evening with you.
Jaejoong: Thank you for everything…I want to see you guys again. Thank you.
Yoochun: We’re so glad you guys are keeping the faith always. We really appreciate it. Thank you LA! Are you guys ready for the last song?
Thanks for this….I watched the video where JJ’s struggling with his English….LOL
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever
I was there…at that time…
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@ MINMIN: You were there????? OMG…you are a lucky one!
I didn’t write mine in details….my fault. I was referring to JJ’s effort in saying started and ended up with star did…star did video. Hilarious!
@MINMIN Why the sad face? Wasn’t it awesome?
@서베린 (@seobehrin)
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever
when I see the vid,I missed them more,and how I wish they come back and give us -LA fans -another concert…
😦
@I was there to see them at the Performing Arts / the Planet Hollywood & at USC Galen Center /LA for *JYJ -THE BEGINNING US 2010 SHOWCASE TOUR*;and I was there at Nokia Theatre LA / Los Angeles, California for *JYJ THE 2011 WORLD TOUR*…
but still not enough for me ,for us ,
When will they be back here,for another concert…?
@ MINMIN: O….(gaping)
But I haven’t even seen them….not even once!…I will trade myself with you if I can see them just once, the way you did….
I feel so sad now……(running to the darkest corner, weeping)
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever
you’ll have a chance to see them one day,just believe it ,dear
come here,I give you some *hugs*,don’t be sad,ok,just be there and waiting…
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One day…..One day….It’s like a song now. I am not even picky. I can have just Jaejoong fans meeting too…LOL
@MINMIN
u were there,lucky u. jealous
@zan JYJ= my encouragement
next time,come with me,sister..
😀
It’s so good that we will have 3 days off for Chinese New Year, so I can concentrate more with Hangul.
I haven’t made the yesterday lesson yet….LOL
Hangul Reading Practice
Here are the first two verses of “Get Out…Goodbye.” The part in parenthesis is the spoken intro. Try sounding it out!
(사랑해)
(그래. 나도 사랑해)
사랑을 하면서 넌 그의 입을 맞추고.
이미 너의 심장은 그의 손을 느끼고.
입 맞추고, 속이고 있어.(That’s Right)
전화를 끊어도 너의 모습이 보이고.
네가 ‘아냐 아냐’ 해도 결국엔 너인걸.
내가 사랑한 너야.
Oh baby. tell me Why you act so strange.
But tonight, I don’t need a damn explain…
I wonder who came with those furious wordings……JJ or Chunnie. Both have innocent looks, but their looks are so deceiving….LOL…
List of Strong Consonants:
ᄏ [k] e.g. 코 [ko] nose
ᄐ [t] e.g. 타다 [tada] to burn
ᄑ [p] e.g. 포도 [podo] grape
ᄒ [h] e.g. 하다 [hada] to do
ᄎ [ch] e.g. 고추 [gochu] pepper
List of Vertical Basic Vowels:
ㅏ [a] similar to the ‘a’ in ‘want’ e.g. 아이 [ai] kid
ㅓ [eo] similar to the ‘o’ in ‘done’ e.g. 어른 [eoreun] adult
ㅣ [i] similar to the ‘ee’ in ‘keep’ e.g. 이름 [ireum] name
List of Horizontal Basic Vowels:
ㅗ [o] similar to the ‘o’ in ‘toe’ e.g. 오이 [oi] cucumber
ㅜ [u] similar to the ‘u’ in ‘rude’ e.g. 우유 [uyu] milk
ㅡ [eu] similar to the ‘u’ in ‘push’ e.g. 드럼 [teureom] drum
soulmate~!
Good afternoon!! So hot here..
yes!! its so hot in here too.. ^^ i guess i know where u are.. 🙂
Indonesian? I’m in jakarta.. Hahaha
me too.. 🙂 yes! its soo HOT today..
my favorite ! Soulmate!
This is for @bubbly….i want to say OMGEEEE 232 COMMENTS OMGE!!!!ERR chidren don’t watch this..THIS IS WARNING
eehhh why my name appears T___T? i have to change it…
Chun is definitely my ET. I enjoyed it ^ ^. Thanks!
Thank you so much .. now I must get ice cream to cool down .. LOL
I do not like the first one
its soulmate =) hello everyone ~ have a nice day ~
I saw some people talking about this song, Nine, in another post.
I’m sure people have talked about it here before, but I’m new and really want to know what you guys think, so I’m asking this again anyway. 😛 In your opinions what is the meaning behind this song Jaejoong composed? ^^
Err…..That JJ, due to the time, is growing up to be a different person than he used to be. That he needs to find what he wants before he can claim his love, before he let the girl knows his love for her?
No idea…..I am lacking of imagination.
I have to admit, I heard the ‘nine years since DBSK met’ explanation and never looked further. I like the song but I haven’t gotten around to reading the translated lyrics yet. ^///^
It gets more complicated than that (^_~) The timing doesn’t work out right. DBSK members met each other at different points and not at the same time. Jaejoong said in one interview that “It’s been 9 years since Yoochun joined us” and went on to explain how he used the first piano tunes Yoochun taught him years ago in the song. But… I think he really shouldn’t have said that, because he first met Yoochun in May-June 2003, and the song was composed some time before the world wide concert in Seoul (November 2010) when it was performed the first time.
Oh silly Jaejoong, it wouldn’t have been messy if he hadn’t said that LOL ^^
@wickedangel: nod.. that’s why all
the yjshipper out there think that
this song cleary made for Yunho..
referring to the song’s title “nine”
they have thought that 9 is the
number of years jaejoong has
been along with Yunho, because
they get trainning at the same
time.. they always think until this
DAY yunho still come to Jaejoong
place to sleep over.. YunJae
shipper is pschyo!!
@ putrihs:
YJ freaks will think anything related to YJ. They even think that Yunho’s latest mags photo with a girl is way better with JJ.
@#%&#*$(!
I just had a nice discussion with JY fans. They were so surprised that I call myself anti YJ. One can’t even grasp the idea.
Can you believe it?
I tried to talk them out…but not in a straightforward way.
He said that? I think (in my opinion and two scents to it) 2001 was the year JJ joined SME. It could be that..
@Jae& JYJ: u mean in cosmo
magz? wooowwww.. clap!! i
haven’t visit any DB5K site
anymore, people in there are
getting nuts.. they’re always
posting an old photos, old
videos, even when i try to posting
some new news about 2VXQ or
JYJ no one responds, they seems
do not want to care anymore
about the state of HoMin and JYJ
now.. its so painful..
@ wicked angel (@WickedAngel4)
9 years was the time he met JS, and for mixed up about the time..we -humans being sometimes make that mistake,so,if you love him enough to be a fan of JYJ,dont count whatever mistake he did ,or listen to the comments from * the other side* …
@Minmin
As I said, I was curious and wanted to know what other people think. ^^ It is a rather perilous line I’m walking here, so please PLEASE take my word for it that I don’t mean any harm whatsoever. ^^ About what you said, actually there was no account of JJ meeting JS in 2001, let alone them two immediately becoming close to each other. They were in different training groups, and the DBSK member whom JS was closest with during his training days was YH.
Also, in my opinion, the mistake JJ made is not about the time or the title of the song, but rather in his subsequent explanation – again as I said, I think he shouldn’t have said what he said in that interview. Of course none of this is important; it’s a wonderful song and the feeling it conveys is beautiful, which is all that matters. I hope it’s not a childish thing to say, but to my defense I wasn’t criticizing him for that mistake – I was just stating out what I think, in a quite affectionate way I might add. (^_~)
I came across a discussion on Nine in another post here in JYJ3, in which someone said that Nine was composed for JYJ fans. It never occurred to me that way before, that’s why I asked for you guys’ opinions again here. ^^ For a millionth time, I didn’t mean to sound spiteful or provocative or anything, and if for some unfortunate reasons it turned out that way, my sincerest apologies. ^^
meh after reading the lyrics, i always figured it was him putting his relationship with dbsk in lyric form…and weaving it into a love story or w/e
….honestly…it could be about Yunho and their friendship…but no i do not think YJ is real LOL….what i mean is, assuming Yunho & Jae were really close friends/brothers before the lawsuit, then this could be about their relationship…bc honestly, a broken friendship of so many years can hurt as much as the end of a romantic relationship….im speaking from experience here…so dont twist my words lol.
Loosing a significant friendship is painful and it does break your heart, obviously the love is different between a romantic relationship & a friendship, but like i said, similar pain can be felt. So assuming this song is based on the end of yh-JJ frienship, I think JJ could have used that as a basis to write a song like “Nine”, that seems 2 apply 2 a romantic relationship. I mean, he wrote In Heaven in memory of his friend who passed, and if you read the lyrics to “In Heaven”, it sounds like a love song,so he could have done the same here. ^__^
i agree with you! i always thought that if he really did write this song for yunho. it is because they are close friend. there is a possibility that he really did write this song for yunho but i am not saying that yunjae is real. i just thought that they could really be super close, like they are brothers.
it can also be a song for DB5K and not for yunho only.
i agree with @wicked angel. if he haven’t said that about yoochun joining, maybe, this wouldn’t be messy.
well, whatever the reason is, love the man, love the song, its great.
@wicked angel
I love it, it’s one of my favorites that they’ve written.
I miss YooSu moments
lol. Since Jae standing in the middle between Yoochun n Junsu so is pretty hard to get Yoosu moment. lmao.
Sometimes I wish they’ll switched the one in the middle, maybe today is Jae turn and next is Yoochun and another times Junsu. It will be interesting ^^
They should do that sometimes; mix and match.
@bookthiefj:
You should watch COO. It has one of the best YooSu moments of all time in it. Su and his inability to properly define personal space is very much loved!
“Su and his inability to properly define personal space is very much loved!”
HAHAHA. This make me remember of the scene in COO when YooSu watching something from Yoochun’s blackberry and suddenly he jump or hug Yoochun so tightly , love the scene. adorable boys ^^
@gigi that scene is so much love, it seem YC is on lovely message with someone Junsu know by his face and ask all the way,when YC show Junsu jump on him and then lovingly look at YC.
if u look past Junsu cuteness,is really heart warming how Junsu happy that YC is happy and ongoing lovely chatting with someone.
@zan
“Junsu happy that YC is happy”
yessss, he said “it just you looks so happy” and I was “awwww so cute” .
They really squeezable , and the scene in the dining room. Lmao. Junsu keep forcing Yoochun to eat the fruit.
ADORABLE BOYS <3333
@gigi
the fruit event,I was screaming in my head”yah park yoochun eat that fruit,I will eat poison if junsu feed me like that” but Junsu seem to make YC eat foods that are not tasty as he mention. Look at this nato event
LOLO, yeah, Su is always like that, there is this one time when they are being interviewed together *i think it is one of there couple talk* Su just LOL-ed on yoochun’s face. there is a moment i thought there gonna kiss because Su keeps on being too close with yoochun. and he will suddenly jumps to yoochun.
@izh
” Su just LOL-ed on yoochun’s face. there is a moment i thought there gonna kiss because Su keeps on being too close with yoochun. and he will suddenly jumps to yoochun.”
Just please, PLEASE remember that every single move the members made during those years was orchestrated by SME. Fan service? Orchestrated and dictated by SME. Overly intimate touching, etc etc? Orchestrated by SME.
OK?
@lili True, but since they’re no longer controlled by SME, and Junsu still gets overly close on occasion, maybe that’s just how he is when he’s laughing.
Lol, this made me remember the ‘near kiss’ when JJ and YC went to say something in each other’s ear during a concert. That was too funny. Junsu was just like, “What’s going on? Why’s everyone laughing?”
where was the last pic taken…the one which JJ used the plastic hammer to hit Yoochun’s head…pls enlighten me.
JYJ fanmeeting last year in Seoul
Thank you!!
It’s JYJ’s White Day Fanmeeting 3/21/2011 ^^
Thank you!! ^^
Btw, I love the hug which JJ gave to YC….could see the strong friendship and bond that they both shared…I just LOVE these 3 guys…Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu. Keep fighting, JYJ!
Saw someone did that on JJ’s head and I was shocked at that moment, can feel the pain… but JJ did gently on Chunnie….. LOL
I remember that! lol Didn’t Jae also once break a hammer on Junsu’s head?
I don’t think those hollow plastic hammers can hurt that bad though, even at full force. They even have crinkles in the sides to absorb some of the impact. Besides, as young guys living together way back when…I’m sure they hurt each other far worse at times just horsing around.
that hit was not gentle it broke the hammer.lol
Guys! FC Men’s official website is already open! Plz do check it out! ❤ http://fcmen.co.kr/index.html
I looked at the members and I’m still loling at the name Young Feel. XD
thank u,nice photos although I cannot read korean
smile always 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnvCQoLqVw
2nd Vid… *too much memory ne?* why u suddenly changing into @Ratih dolta?
ehh my name?warrrrrrghhhh twitter soo slow in my lappy
junsu’s smile is beautiful…and its also one of the reasons ‘angel xiah’ is haunting him till now!lol!..coz whenever he smiles…he somehow looks like a child?
can I add to Jaejoong’s smile plus the DIMPLE!
http://twitpic.com/891kvo
and the Soulmates smile !
😀
my favourite soulmate song ~ i love shelter too ! their voice harmonize perfectly ♥ i love when they rap 😀
I LOVE THIS SONG TOO!! Their raps was awesome..it’s so cool ^^
Love this!!!! ^^
i’ll put this here too
🙂
this made me realize how good mickey’s rap!!
He always the main rapper after all ^^
He’s good rapper, I mean who could do rap in 3 languages? esp this song, use Japanese and English.
i lovee this song tooo.. but i prefer the one when they did at Thanksgiving Concert in Tokyo Dome.. full of energy.. 🙂
I love the whole thanksgiving concert specially the opening and ending part. So touching… I hope they’ll do another tokyo dome concert soon and record it.
I love this it was so hot!!!!!! I would love to hear them sing some songs like this again!
I am confused can you answer a question for me.
When JJ and YC left SM they put out and album under whos management? Where was JS?
At that time JJ and YC were promoting as a duo for the Colours – Melody & Harmony/Shelter single, and Tohoshinki had not split yet so they were all still under Avex. Subsequently all 3 left SM together, JJ, YC and Su.
@gigikusakit i agree 😀
@putrihs i watched that ~ its awesome 😀
Lol call this site Jaejoong and friends it would fit better. Just sayin.
You should check out the posts on Chunnie’s new drama. Hundreds of replies! There’s definitely plenty of Chunsas here!
And if you’re looking for Xiahpwas, just check out the posts on his new musical!
??
why
pfffft that’s not true, plenty of Chun and Junsu love around here.
Uh, did you happen to skip all the other updates? There are many posts on JYJ’s FB and concert, Yoochun’s drama, and Junsu’s musical right now.
Granted, posts about JJ will probably increase since it’s nearing his birthday, but that’s true for all the members. Not sure what you are trying to get at by posting that comment.
Are you trying to stir something?
I may have Jaejoong as my DP but I just go around, from one post to another, be it Junsu, YC or JYJ and I think most us do, I don’t find exclusivity here, it’s JYJ3 so it’s for the three of them.
wth?
You should know about this site better, do some research about this site!
This sites for Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu! There’s no exclusivity in here. This site for JYJ
man!!! hate fans like you, stop being an immature kid. Growth up and find something better to do. should i complain that Yc post get <100 comments? should i complain that there is so much Js post here? shut up and dont pretend to be a jyj fans but try to stir something here. if you only like junsu or yoochun. move your ass to their individual blog like Withjunsu or 6sky something.
@ Ahni… This site is 100% JYJ <3<3<3<3
LOL @HM
you’re 100% crazy for Jaejoong, was that you who comment about Jae’s pants at the other post?
Thanks for sharing, we will talk more about Jaejoong’s pants next time.
“Thanks for sharing, we will talk more about Jaejoong’s pants next time.” – another reason to lurk. *LIKE*
¡ROFL! I’m not the only one who’s crazily in love with Jaejoong. 😉 And this site is 1000% JYJ , that’s why I love to be in here 🙂
What jae’s pants? I always missing the good part!!! T_T
Are you all really referring to Jae’s pants or…..indirectly to mini Jae??
@ nikhapi
@ murasaki紫
Kris publish this video in another post … and my look were fixing in pant the Jae .. I´m pervert for my love JJ….
Jae + mini-Jae + pants of JJ = impossible not to see …. > _ < !!!!!
Rumour has it that JJ Little member always making a cameo whenever JJ is on stage. Now I got a proof! Thanks gal!
@ Ahni: That’s because you haven’t visited other posts my dear.
Care to spend your time with quality reading before next accusation?
Ooppps….not accusation probably, just some due-to-misinformed comment, righto?
@Ahni: agree with @Jae&JYJ.. u better take alook around first.. in previous page u can see mannyy chunsas and xiahpaws too.. hopefully you will enjoy it.. have fun!!
chill sweetie… This is JYJ and JJ is from JYJ…. If people here are more bias towards JJ (which I doubt). I don’t see anything wrong with it?
chunsas are crazy these days and building chat room;the day before Junsu musical all the page,your time of attempt to stair is failed girl
@Ahni, Call yourself a failure and worthless would fit the best. Just sayin XD.
🙂
Cool story bro.
If i was wrong, my bad then, it just seemed that way 😦 But thank you guise for lettin me kno different. I am a huge fan of JYJ, I just wanted to see equal love shown for all three. You all seem like cool girls, I meant no offense or err *accusations*. Peace.
@wickedangel: nod.. that’s why all the yjshipper out there think that this song cleary made for Yunho.. referring to the song’s title “nine” they have thought that 9 is the number of years jaejoong has been along with Yunho, because they get trainning at the same time.. they always think until this DAY yunho still come to Jaejoong place to sleep over.. YunJae shipper is pschyo!!
They are nuts and delusional fans, they live under their own imagination.
yes they are!! once when i was still going around in DB5K site.. i always get sick with all those Fanfic, YJ photoshop, and all the shit things about YunJae..
You know, they seems unable to noticed which one is already as passed and history , which one is future or present.
They used all old videos, fanfic, photoshop photos and bla bla to fulfill their desire.
What make me pissed is, they always connect everything to YJ things. They said JYJ’s song is for YH and bla bla. geez.
@ gigiku sakit: We have many in Indonesia…..can you believe it? I think if JYJ is to have a concert in Indonesia, something must be done to prevent their madness..
I know. It’s pathetic they insist to ignore the truth and continue to live under their own imagination. They obviously read too much fan fiction.
I know it sound a bit cruel but when JYJ canceled their concert in indonesia last year, to be honest I feel relieved.
I believed the crazy shipper will bring YJ banner or shouting the “other guy” name in front of JJ face.
You know what? that only bring sadness to Jaejoong.
Jaejoong is not gay. End it there.
@ gigikusakit: Honestly…..I am not ready for any JYJ concert or Jaejoong’s fans meeting too…not even this year~
My heart is bleeding saying this but that is the truth.
Should we make a rally……Don’t come here JYJ or Jaejoong! Indonesia is full of weirdos!
I will surely slap a face which mouth dare saying disrespectful words to Jaejoong. And that will break JJ’s heart.
sorry to came out suddenly but i truly i agree with u guys
i don’t mind it at all if JYJ not gonna held any concert in Indonesia
yes i get hurt when i knew that they cancel it but after that i truly felt so glad because in here to many YJ shippers
seems i made mistake again.. sorry.. this comment suppose to be under @Wicked Angel comment, the one with @Seohbehrin ask about the meaning behind “nine” song.. idk whats wrong with my cursor and mouse.. 😦
Girl I almost got brainwashed by some of them. They’re unbelievable… It’s clear as water there’s no REAL ROMANCE between them.. YJ was like some of the best OTP there. e.g OHMIYA (from arashi) which from what I’ve observed did much skinship and intense stares than YJ. ^^v
@putrihs Initially, I thought this “Yunjae” shippings was lovely when I was watching the old vids as I wanted to know about JYJ. But as times goes by and my fondness toward JaeChunSu, especially Jejung, my hate towards Yunjae Shippers grow and it is unstoppable now unless they perish.
I had a debate with Yunjae Shippers sometimes back, one of the reasons they ship, because they knew they could not have nor even get close to Jejung or vice versus.
Of course other reasons, yaoi fantasy….Well you can fantasize but do not bring it to reality, shame on those shippers that has cross the line!
@murasaki: “one of
the reasons they ship,
because they knew they
could not have nor
even get close to Jejung
or vice versus.” » i guess this is the MAIN reason why all the YunJae Shipper out there bcome wild and pathetic.. because they will never ready to see YunJae with a woman, ANY WOMAN. even only for photo shoot or MV.. freak!
Yes, 1 of the shippers in-directly told me that. Guess that was a wrong confession to a Yunjae hater which is me 😛
@murasaki: is she trying to make a suicide? lol.. confess that she’s YJ Shipper to Shipper Hater..
Nosebleed!!!!!!!!!! >_<
Are you trying to kill me? JJ is meant for PORN. FOR REAL!!!! And I can’t look at Popsicle the same way as before. You NAUGHTY BOY!
mmmmmmmmm…….. I like!!!!!!!!!
Milkwhite skin Kim Jaejoong! *I need a doctor for nosebleed T____T
LOL at the music 😛
@Jae&JYJ: u mean in cosmo magz? wooowwww.. clap!! i haven’t visit any DB5K site anymore, people in there are getting nuts.. they’re always posting an old photos, old videos, even when i try to posting some new news about 2VXQ or JYJ no one responds, they seems do not want to care anymore about the state of HoMin and JYJ now.. its so painful..
another mistakee.. sorryy.. sorryy… 😦
@ putrihs: Errr….why are you here? I was looking for your feedback until I saw you down here….
Yes…that Cosmo mags….They are indeed beyond help.
I suppose I just made a girl cried for a while with my words.
I told her she would not stand my reason, but she was so curious for she didn’t get it why I am anti YJ. And there are so many members like her there….
I mean I love them all, 5 of them. Spend my money for JYJ and HoMin’s albums and merchandises.
I will never ever ever ever ever understand what makes them even keep the idea YJ or JaeMin. Before the separation, it is indeed silly and they were young back there. But after the separation….it is totally irrational.
………..I need my yoga now.
@Jae&JYJ: idk.. blame my mouse.. 😦 u better healing ur mind dear.. forget all your anger to them.. hug!
Hug putrihs…..sorry for my late response…
I tried to stay online most of my time….but I am always engaged somewhere else…:(
Yes…they are indeed beyond help. Silly them!
@Jae&JYJ/DBSKforever *Shake hand. If they don’t cry,they don’t learn, aren’t they? 😛
The boys are so cute~
I wonder what are they saying~~~
the MC asked them is there any interesting episode when they went to Europe and Junsu answered about Picasso , he said that he went to Picasso museum but cannot understand the artwork. Yoochun adding by saying Junsu said that Picasso’s drawing is like what he (Junsu) drew in 6th grade (lmao).
Yoochun suddenly mentioned “Pikachu” (lol he’s in his own world as usual)
after that the MC asked if there any moment again? Junsu said there is, I think Junsu said that he went out with JJ but YC chose to stay in hotel. Yoochun doesn’t want went out and drinking at his hotel room. In the last part , YC and JJ said Japanese beer is the most delicious one.
Thanks @gigi
The boys are so funny…. Chunnie just like to troll Su and Jae always joins him. Kekeke
Our JYJ~
^____________^
@shadow
our JYJ
our JYJ
Our JYJ love that word
Yap!
Aint we all proud to be their fans!!! 🙂
Such a cutie~~
Now THIS is HOT!
Funny but true 😀
Love the parody lyrics! SO so so True!!!
@1:50 I wish they’d fix that one typo though: “We can be successful on all fours / corners of the world with more world / tours”
With ‘fours’ inappropriately pluralized and the way the sentence is cut to fit the screen, it looks like they’re talking about something else really really bad! /(O_O )\
Once upon a time, our 2 awesome soulmates actors……. LOL^^
@shadow
ROFL I am laughing non stop. they were so funny and clueless. hey do u know the “dangerous love NG” where jae laughing cos he claim he see his image in YC eyes. and “dating on earth”m soulmates NGs
Anyone know where i can found this drama with engsub? looks so funny
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v250796G2gBdryZ?h1=%5BHQ%5D+DBSK+-+061027+MBC+Golden+Fishery+%5BENG+SUBBED%5D
it’s really hilarious…
The links to Pts 1 & 3 is in Pt 2’s description box on YouTube, and Pts 4 & 5 are in that same YouTube poster’s channel.
Here’s Part 2:
Thanks girls for the link!!
Loving all the posts here..
AKP is slow in regards to JYJ..
So I went a find another site and found jyj3..
I’m new here! So Please take care of me!!
welcome ^^
Please read the rules by JYJ so you’ll clear about JYJ3’s rules.
Welcome to the family 🙂
typo.
Please read the rules of JYJ3, so you will clear about it. Enjoy jyj3 and Welcome to the family ^^
Thank you..
I will read it..
Hi
🙂
Welcome
have fun spazzing
hi, welcome to JYJ3 family, here you will found love, sharing and caring ^^ u will enjoy here like me
thank you!!!
I feel the love already!
welcome ^^
thanks!
Hello welcome!
thanks
Welcome mh34nluvsJJ
(you have a very difficult name to type,lol)
Beware : JYJ3 is so addictive
I’m always switching to JYJ3 window even if I’m busy, doing a peek a boo!
Thank You!
I know i’ve been on this 28 times today!!
It’s hard not to check this site!!!
they are so fast! i admire the admins..
you can type mhean to make it easier.. LOLz…
As u can see I love JJ..
but sadly every time me and my friends do a cover dance whether it is DBSK or JYJ i’ll end-up not doing JJ’s Part
@mh34nluvsJJ
Welcome, and enjoy JYJ3! We are like nowhere else on the web and no other fansite because we all like each other so much, in addition to having fascinating discussions about everything imaginable JYJ every single day.
Cheers!
welcome sis
@mh34n: Welcome to JYJ home.. 🙂 no Shipper please.. *im just kidding* bdw, we Might be Bite sometimes.. BUT i guess, That’s the essence of having a Family, Sisters, and Brothers, we share everything and exchange opinions .. 🙂 enjoy!!
I’m not much of a shipper though!! hehehehe..
thanks a lot..
My response perhaps a bit late (very late?) but I welcome you with all my heart!
I love the first part of today gif a lot,Jae practically jumped into YC arms YC fall back yoohwan try to catch with wide eye,but YC was able to hold it.I think jae was cutie all around on that day for unknown reason,he lied on junsu lap later.
【投票/イノライフ】『2012年放送予定のドラマの中、一番期待高まるのは何?』<1/17~1/29> http://www.innolife.net/index.htm ★ユチョンの復帰作?『屋根部屋の皇太子』ポチお願いします 24時間で1回投票可
another poll if you have free time lol. Whose drama are you looking forward to in 2012? Please vote for Yuchun~ ユチョンの復帰作?『屋根部屋の皇太子』
Poll can be found in the lower left of the main page of the site.
Hi Ruby, welcome back, it’s been awhile…
Can’t read Japanese, so it’s the 4th choice,
google translate :
In the drama scheduled to air in 2012, rising expectations of what’s best? (29 to 01 Jan 17)
Topics created in 2011 “Dream High 2”
The Jang “Raburein”
Kim Ha Neul’s -T.O.P. “Absolute Boyfriend”
Returning Micky work? “Prince of the room Roof”
Chu won the next generation of stars, “Masked Bride”
The Yuain “Fashion King”
I’ve been quite busy with work and sometimes I can only login at twitter. T_T
Yes it is the 4th choice. Please look for this: ユチョンの復帰作?『屋根部屋の皇太子』
Done!
voted!
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RUBYYYYYYYY!!!! YAYAY! よかった!You’re back! Missed you heaps and heaps sister!!!
drop me an email if you can, hun, please? i have a question for you from me and Saffie-sister….
springbok7 at hotmail dot com
Yoochun Miss Ripley DVD Release.
Yoochun sooooooo adorable , such a cutie pie
@gig thanks. this man need rom-com,he himself is a comedy. Is it in japanese.
“he himself is a comedy.”
SO TRUE! hahaha. Rofl when he almost falling , everyone was widen their eyes hahahaha
Who? the narrator of the video? yes she speak japanese.
@gigi I mean eng sub or not.
mighty hero have to run to heroine to save her, but hero himself is slipping in fish market, ROFL
may be this time we know answer of,his swimming scene double or not.
There’s no eng sub for this vid yet. I read some news about miss ripley dvd, they said the dvd will including behind the scene of his swimming scene, when YC get guide from swimming trainer. I guess he did the scene by himself
Hi, guys it is me again the newbie. I have some more questions to ask. I hope I am not being a burden to anyone asking so many questions. I love JYJ so much and I am trying to learn as much as I can about them. So when someone saids something on this site that I am not familar with or questions come to my mind I have to ask them. I really appreciate everyone who takes the time to answere my many questions.
1. Why do some people ship JJ and Yunho together? Why do they ship JJ and JC together? I do not know about JJ and Yunho but so far all I see if a deep friendship between JJ and YC. I am not shipping them
I am just curious of the history between them.
2. Did JJ, YC, and JS graduate from highschool (I read somewhere on another post on here that JJ dropped out of junior high to debute)? Did any of them go and or complete college?
3. What does DNBN stand for?
4. Is DNBN a fansite or fanclub?
5. JYJ3 is fansite correct?
6. What is the difference between an admin-polcy fansite and a fansite with members?
7. What was the Hell Gate interview about?
8. When JJ and YC left SM they put out and album under whos management? Where was JS?.
1. I think it start when fans start coupling DBSK back there. YJ shipper always insist that there something more than just friends and brothers relationship between them. They said YH is like a father and JJ is the wife *sigh* YJ shipper is the crazy delusional fans.
Well.. since long time ago, people calls JJ and YC as soulmate. Since the same passion of composing music, same blood type, love fashion etc and they were roomate in dorms. They are like best buddies, so that’s why people call them soulmate.
2. I think JS completed his college/uni, JJ now also in middle completing his degree, YC? I don’t think so. He purposely dropped out from his high school in US so he can get part time job at there.
3. DNBN is a korean fansite. They have registered members and they are pretty big fansite and popular. They used to support DB5K but a while ago they changed and only stand for JYJ. I believed DNBN already did a poll between them before totally switched to JYJ side. Amazing right ? 🙂
4. See my answer on number 3
5. As far as I know, yes. This side is not delusional and support all the 3. I already searched another fansite, and I think JYJ3 is the best one among other sites 🙂
6. You see, JYJ3 site welcome everyone in here. You don’t think to be official member to love or comment in here but you have to respect the rule of this site. While DNBN have official member, you have to registered first.
7. I don’t know about it.
8. JS, YC, JJ filed a lawsuit against their SM Entertainment TOGETHER (in the beginning of August 2009) , you have to know that when they are still DBSK they signed contract under Avex for their Japanese activity. JJ and YC released their album in September 2009 (when they are still as DBSK member) so it’s under Avex.
8. I don’t know about it
@gigi I read somewhere YC is also graduated,Junsu degree is musical or music related
@zan
really?ah that’s really a good news. Did he finished his high school or his college/uni?
@gigi i read like this
Education: Kyunghee University – Post-modern Music Major
@flower: I tried to complete the answer about Yunjae, IMO SM created YunJae things only for Fans Service.. as far as i know, Yunho best buddy is Donghae for SuJu. although he was very close to with Jaejoong.. 🙂 i ever read an article which yunho claim himself that so difficult to found a partner because of yunjae shipper things..
I’ll try my best
1. Well, the SM marketing machine when they were in TVXQ tried to pair off the TVXQ members and ship them as couples.
You;d have couple talks, officially sanctioned fan service. A lot of kpop groups do this but in the TVXQ fandom it was taken to an extreme
Each member was assigned a “role” Jaejoong was the “mother”, Yunho was the “father” and changmin was their kid
You might find it hard to believe when i write this down because it sounds ridiculous but believe me if you venture out of this site (we dont seriously ship anybody here) you will find many people who are incapable of separating JJ from his “umma” image
Seriously
it would be something like this:
Eg. Jaejoong takes picture with a girl
Fangirl: Yunjae is REAL!!!! “Yunnie appa will be jealous”
and this is two years after this group has broken up
o.O
and they will believe anything random people make up on twitter
Jaejoong is naturally a very caring person, and what makes me sad is the very “mother” image that they fit him into is one that is caricatured and stereotypical image of a woman (as a female i hate that they can only attribute those “submissive” qualities to women
When we say Jaechun its purely bromance since their BFFs
2. Yes they did
3 and 4 DNBN is one of the largest TVXQ fansites that turned only JYJ
5.yes
6. I dont know
7. http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/yunho-and-changmin-switch-their-stance-on-jyj/
They also came back under TVXQ name which JYJ are actually entitled to since legally copyright also belongs to them
Which pissed off a lot of their Korean fans
SM blocking JYJ plus Yunho and Changmin Knee Drop Guru+Chosun interview was kinda the final straw
8. They were under Avex in Japan; they didnt have a korean management
JJ and YC release was during their TVXQ days as a subunit
I suggest you not bother yourself with the fandom drama
and just enjoy the spazzing aspect tbh
absolutely agree with @juno. spazz and enjoy the music,that is less tiresome
Hello flower,
Before JYJ became JYJ they were DBSK as you might know about this. Those 5 had a very close relationship (brotherly). But due to some circumstances they (JYJ) left the group.
1. JJ when they were in DBSK is the Mother figure of the group and Yunho is the Father figure because that time JJ took so much care to the 4 that made him look motherly. Mother + Father = You do the maths. Those two also have a great relationship (JJ and Yunho) So I think that’s the reason. I dunno about JJ and YC all I know is they refer to themselves as soul mates. I think it’s JJ who is the one that connects those 5 together.
2. JJ graduated from high school but i have no idea if he finished Uni whilst Su and Chun went to Uni but i don’t know if they graduated or not.
3 – 4. I can’t answer that because i’m not certain either.
5. i believe so..
6. can’t answer as i’m newbie here as well
7. Hell Gate is the term used if the other side HoMin (2VXQ) or anti-JYJ gave bad remarks to JYJ, hope i’m right though.
8. I believed that JJ and YC didn’t put out an album without Junsu. If you think that it might have been an OST to drama. EP The… is their first album (i think) that was released in Japan.. The 3 were under Rhythm Zone (Avex Entertainment) then later on was forced to go on hiatus there because of Childish reasons (they were then banned to promote to Japan’s airwaves) 2009 – 2010 is the hardest years for the fans that supports them. Then in 2010 they debut as JYJ under C-Jes Entertainment and Warner Music in Korea.
I hope this helps..
Anyone who read this, please correct me if I’m wrong..
Hm…For no 1. Couple pairing is 1 of SM methods to promote DB5K that time. The first (trial) couple was 2U(Y) Yoochun and Yunho…But didnt get a lot respond. Then follow by YooSu couple. Yunjae couple become famous because of ‘Dangerous Love’ apart from that, In reality world the 2 was really a good friend and some mistaken their friendship ‘more’ than that…..For Soulmate , JJ and Yoochun this two really close to each other. (more like understand and feel dept to each other. Bromance. They have many similar thing, form clothes size, hobby like composing n piano…there’s a long list…)but obviously they really understand each other more than the other members. That’s why they called ‘Soulmate’.
7. The interview about ‘the gesee theory’ come from ChangMin and then Yunho answered in ‘Knee drop Guru’ ….. (Well, actually i thought Hell Gate starts with ‘Keep Your Head Down'(the controversial titles, follow by the lyric and then choreography for that song) fans assuming it for JYJ and then later follow by these interview infamous geese and then Knee drop Guru…)
if I’m not wrong DNBN stand for Dong Nae Bang Nae ^^
Thanks to everyone who replied to my questions.
1. @Juno thanks for the web link. For the 6 years they where with SM before they filed the lawsuit did they get paid anything. I mean literally were they getting paid any money. They were working thier ass off and was not getting paid for alot of activities they should of been paid for. Then they had to pay for alot of expenses they should of not been paying for. Man how were they living?
2. So JJ, YC, JS were in a cosmetic contract but the other guys were not? What happen to that cosmetic contract once they thier contract was ended and they left SM?
3. Was the slave contract they were in was for 13 years?
4. Why would SM market them as couples? That makes know sense to me. I do not understand what they were aiming to gain by marketing them as couples.
5. So Yunho and Chamgmin appears to have not been aware that JJ, YC, JS were filing a lawsuite. I wonder if that really was true.
6. Is C-Jes JYJ managment company or thier agent? I ask because in article the professor wrote recently he stated JYJ signed an agent contract with C-Jes. If this is true then does that mean JYJ is thier own boss and they pay C-Jes to work for them? This is why they have the freedom to choose what they want to do
I cant answer all your questions now
i’m really busy but i’ll leave this here to answer
no.4
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/12/the-dangers-of-shipping/
The companies do it because they can make a lot of $$$$$$$
Super Junior members are known to make out on stage
ShiNee also practices “shipping”
“2. So JJ, YC, JS were in a cosmetic contract but the other guys were not? What happen to that cosmetic contract once they thier contract was ended and they left SM?”
Yes and I dont know
but the court has ruled that the cosmetics contract had nothing to do with the lawsuit but before that antis used to say that they left SM because they were greedy etc etc
but once the court ruling came out they had to shut up
I cant say they didnt get paid ANYTHING but it is true that they were paid a miniscule amount relative to what they earned, and in some instances did not get even that (Eg, Extra payment for mirotic selling 500k)
Some of those “Expenses” are shady and include parking fees of executives
and yes SM did deduct all costs as “expenses”
i cant elaborate now
gtg
@flower
I know you’re a new fan but I caution you not to believe everything you read about JYJ vs SM case, that not became JYJ vs Homin case. For many new fans and for some older fans as well, it’s so confusing and complicated that it would make your head turn. But to help answer your question:
1. They are actually paid when they were with SM but not enough, the salary they receive is not equal to the time and effort the group exert. How did they survive? Barely. It would be a long responds if I go into detail on how they were paid but it would be enough to say that after working under SM for 6 years, they have nothing under their name— the Audi cars that the members had (still have in the case of Homin) are from SM to show how successful DB5K became. The 5 member lived in one apartment with their manager. Just imagine this, DB5K, the most successful group in Asia, living together in a two bedroom apartment— and Jaejoong sleeping on the living room floor. When they moved to a new “bigger” apartment, the 5 members were sleeping in one bedroom. You get the picture…
2. The cosmetic contract is more complicated and I would leave that for people who know better. To scratch the surface, it was said that SM didn’t approve the investment JYJ put into Crebeau and anti used Crebeau as a reason to malign JYJ and also the cosmetic company. Korean court ruled that Crebeau had nothing to do with DB5k split. Again, this would be a very long post if we go into details.
3. YES, 13 years EXCLUDING their 2-year military service!!!
4. You familiar with Yaoi? A bromance story that’s so popular in East Asia… SM used that to attract more fan girls and they found a gold mine from it since Yunjae became the biggest couple followed by YooSu.
5. That’s what Homin claims now, that they don’t know about the lawsuit. It was magnified by JYJ antis and that’s why Homin fans claims that JYJ are betrayers. But there were rumors too that says they were planning to leave as five but Homin were asking for more time but JYJ saw the urgency to it. Frankly, we would never know the truth that happened behind close doors and what transpired between the 5 members unless all of them unanimously tell the true story, not the they-said-he-said scenario.
6. JYJ works with C-Jes, not works for C-Jes. It’s a management arrangement, I think. All inquiries, projects, offers, etc. about JYJ goes to C-Jes but it needs to be approved by JYJ. Unlike before that SM dictates what they can and cannot do and work them to death. So you’re right, they are free to do what they like now… they have more freedom to do what they like.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions?
http://t.co/Fy1MGI2P Jaejoong gif… don’t know where to look~ ^^;; fave gif atm
@ruby
is so cute,thank u.
Please admins,can this be Gif is nest GAPP. puppy eyes request
Gosh, he always make me smile! Thank you Ruby, miss you ^^
Link: http://gam-mag.jp/2012/01/18/poll-51/
Actors you want to appear on the cover of the mag~ JYJ keeps on winning these polls but I haven’t seen them on the mag cover yet. but vote away if you have free time~
voting period is : January 18, 2012 @ 13:01
February 05, 2012 @ 23:00
as of now JYJ is 95%, I think it has not been found yet by another fandom.
2vxq 2%, SJ 1%, shinee 1%
voted.
@kris: “I think it has not been
found yet by another
fandom.” » lol.. beware of the Shawol and elf..
RT @hanryusomeya: 1月19日~2月5日まで、JR新大久保駅から、明治通り交差点大久保2丁目の約500mに、全56本の「ミス・リプリーフラッグ」が吊下がり、裏も表ももちろんユチョンだらけの「ミス・リプリー通り」に。
from Jan 19-Feb 5, there’s a 500m billboard of Miss Ripley near Shin Okubo JR station
thank you! more info :
Hallyu fans visiting Shin-Okubo can get around just by foot, along Okubo Street. (Meiji Street Junction Okubo 2-chome from Shin-Okubo JR Station / About 500m) All 56 street lampposts lined there have “Miss Ripley Flags” hanging on them. Of course, the reverse side has Yoochun (printed) on them! From this weekend onwards, Okubo Street will make you want to call it “Miss Ripley Street” !? (19 Jan 2012 – 15 Feb 2012)
In addition, visible from the street in front of the entrance of Don Quijote Shinjuku branch (along Shoku-an Street), which has approximately 20,000 visitors a day, “Miss Ripley” videos will be played 56 times a day (from 19 Jan 2012 – 18 Feb 2012).
Source: [K Star News]
Hi, I’ve been stalking this site heaps for JYJ news and decided I can’t keep on silently lurking xD
I love JYJ to bits and am excited to become part of the JYJ family ^^ Hahaha right now I’m refreshing this site every few seconds for the translation of Jaejoongs tweet XDD
Hi Welcome!
Thanks ^^
@lyne
This site make u come out of stalker mode and want to join family right. welcome
😉 & 🙂
@BAF sis hug hugs
Definately, the JYJ3 family is so peaceful! Hardly any arguments which is great so we can focus on our common love for the boys! 😀
welcome dear lyne^^
@zan.. not only a ‘stallker mode’ but also ‘pervert mode’.. haha
**oopss..kids..please dont read this ;P lol
hahaha who can stop their ‘pervert mode’ from emerging when it comes to these three boys XD (not me)
@ lyne
everything about them is sexy ~ 😉
@zan
omay! are you talking about those tight pants? *_*
thats.. heaven! haha.. LOL!
junsu should wear something like that, often!! 😀
@hya♥JJlove
pervert mode is contagious,when I am watching Junsu musical press conference vid,when his pants come on screen my attention to facial acting is lost.
Welcome ^^
thanks, i love your avatar!
welcome dear..
thank you!
I’m in soulmates phase.. so feel like sharing the pretty!!!!
what a beautiful piano piece
EHHHH MY GRAVATAR !!!!!!!!
[NEWS] Big Bang and JYJ, most wanted on TV for Lunar New Year holiday
An online lecture website conducted a survey on “Which boy bands are most wanted on TV during the Lunar New Year’s holiday?”. The survey had 1173 participants.
The survey results placed Big Bang at first place with 556 votes which was 48% of all the votes. JYJ came in second with 173 votes (15% of all the votes).
It was commented that, “It has been a long time since Big Bang appeared on TV. Even at the music awards ceremonies held at the end of the year, Big Bang did not make an appearance, because of some problems. Therefore, the fans are hoping to see the group at least during the Lunar New Year’s day.”
Also, for JYJ, it was said that, “Because it is only possible to see JYJ on commercials here and there and at their concerts, the fans’ hope to see them on TV is growing.”
Meanwhile, Big Bang is scheduled for their comeback in March, and JYJ is scheduled for their world tour concerts in Chile and Peru on March 9th and 11th.
http://tvdaily.mk.co.kr/read.php3?aid=1326931604261169010
As the saying goes : “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”
but long absence makes the heart forget,
It’s good JYJ is so innovative to cover up their absence on TV.
i like this news…
i wish it will happen though..
my two fav groups…and they hardly appear anywhere:/
@Kris: remember There’s NO party without 3 BFF: Jaejoong, TOP, and Yoochun.. im sure SK women know about this.. *wink*
[Question] if fans of Yoochun is called chunsa’s…
and Junsu’s xiahpaws
what about Jeajoong’s?
hi @mh34luvsJJ welcome~^^
jae’s fans are usually known as jaeharem/pollen 🙂
Jaeharem
Hi! ^^
Chunsas are what Yoochun’s fans call themselves, no matter if they are Korean or international fans. Same thing with Xiahpwas and Junsu.
Jaejoong’s fans don’t have an official name. I don’t think Korean JJ fans have their own name, but Jades of Jae’d is the older name for international JJ fans, and thus I believe it’s still considered more official. Some international JJ fans now refer to themselves as Jaeharem, and personally I like this name better. ^^ Chinese JJ fans call themselves Pollen.
Thanks for the info..
now i can call myself part of jaeharem.. hahaha
Had read on facebook that a group called cassiopeia is planing a “project” to bring dbsk back as 5
They try to find people which attend the Southamerica concerts from JYJ and tell them to
hold panels with TVXQ5 names and pictures + to scream Dong Bang Shin Ki during their
perfomances there.
How selfish and stupid can this people be. That will be JYJ concerts not DBSKs.
And such things will not bring them back as 5 but will give JYJ a lot of pain.
Why they cant accept the situation like it is now.
The lawsuit is still going on, a lot things were happend and much painful things were said.
They can’t be back to normal so easily only because some fans want it.
Only time will tell.
What the hell. their brain need treatment
Hopefully the South American fans have more sense than the fanatical cassies. T_T
@serinade
i hate reading stuff like this, knowing i cant do anything about it. >:Z
yes, this is an extremely selfish thinking on their part, i’m really sad that SM has caused such irrevocable damage to JYJ.
not to mention placing innocent fans into delusional modes for life. only they can wise up and change their thinking.
or JYJ has to do something big. like spill the beans during the concert or something. but i dont know if that should happen. gosh.
i think for every sick group out there, there should be a anti-group to counter such unnecessary behavior!! if any happens.
@serinade
Would you mind providing the Facebook link? Thanks.
This is kinda silly but when will the adminnies change the banner? I’m waiting for that to happen but I guess @hazeword is busy right now. I was planning to debut my new and scary avatar when the banner changed… LOL!!!
@miranda… I know I I know (again!!!) I promised an avatar debut last week but I was timing it with the change of JYJ3 banner after reaching 19million hits but it didn’t happen.
What is Chun up to?
Now we know what he is doing…PARTY XDDDD
Here are some more videos from tonight at the same location with little scenes of Yoochun XD
his manager seems a little drunk here ^^
A poem about YooChun by the famous poet, Yoo Min Eun. “Thank you YooChun”.
Thank you, Park Yoochun
Like fireworks, blossoming on television
I bypass Park Yoochun, the man who makes my heart flutter like my first love
And sit on a street nearby
Unable to hold onto the lover’s screams
In this clamorous world, where should I go?
Unnamed flowers bloom everywhere
His smile makes the rustling wind stop
His tears melt the frost from the glass windows
Park Yoochun as Seon Joon
Reading the classics in television at SunKyunKwan
The girls who use Maple leaves as makeup
Bustle with excitement searching him up on the internet, embracing him
Through the years like the turning of the wheel
They look upon him
When it turns into a deep scar, when it turns into a sin
Thank you, Park Yoochun
Not knowing shame even at my age
Looking at your smile, makes me embarrassed
Thank you, Park Yoochun
You allow my heavy heart to turn into the sunshine of Spring
Source: [baidutvxq]
Translation credits: Supernike911@tohosomnia.net
Shared by: tohosomnia.net
A poem about YooChun by the famous poet, Yoo Min Eun. “Thank you YooChun”.
copied from 6002sky website.
that lady is really brave to confess like that
awww..the poem was beautiful!^^
she should so tweet this to him!!
or better not, since he’s such a rare visitor..
maybe emailing/snailmailing would be a better idea!
As you may..or may not know (I don’t remember)…I (think) I have shared here before my love of After School’s original five members. Now its just horrible. A valuable member left and then she was replaced. The new girl decided she wanted to be an actress instead so they added two girls when she left as well and now its an ‘open group’ were members can be added (initiated) and tossed aside *cough* Did I say that? I meant once they want to leave they “graduate”. Recently there was the “experiment” of ASBlue and ASRed which were temporary sub-groups made from the main group. There is also the cutesy-puke god-awful Orange Caramel, another sub-group. They produced the disaster that is ‘Shanghai Romance’…yeah…..This is NOT the original AS but what could I expect right?
I thought people would just get over it but I was watching an original video of them on Youtube and this comment really surprised me:
“After School Fans: Keep watching the older original videos of the girls. These are videos prior to the the release of Bekah. If total hits can reach 2 million, the girls from After School will know that they command a solid fan base. At that point they will be marketable and the girls can leave Pledis and either go independent or negotiate with another Agency. We the fans have the responsibility to support them. The girls have given us all they had. Now it is our turn.”
I was like O_O I thought us JYJ fans were the only ones that said stuff like that. I was really pleased. I know its just a comment on Youtube but I’m glad people are starting to think about the idols instead of just making dumb passive aggressive comments when things go wrong. The girls aren’t the best thing since sliced bread but the original five had spunk and potential. I really miss them too.
@MIA2 sincerely I don’t know the group but I understand the comment that is why korean entertainment want to ban JYJ because their freedom disease is contagious
Ahhh so we were right you guys! Chun hung out with jeri and paul.
Jeri slaughter tweeted to chunnie: “So much fun!!!”
I just want to share this news since most of us are users of Megaupload.
Hacktivist Group Anonymous Take Down Government, Music Industry Websites
Following the shutdown of Megaupload, the collective retaliated by shutting down websites for the RIAA, MPAA and the Department of Justice, just to name a few.
Minutes after U.S. authorities shut down file-sharing website Megaupload, hacktivist group Anonymous retaliated.
The online group Anonymous successfully hacked into the websites for the Department of Justice, RIAA, Motion Picture Association of America and Universal Music Group on Thursday. The websites for performing rights organization BMI and Warner Music Group were also taken down.
“It was in retaliation for Megaupload, as was the concurrent attack on Justice.org,” Anonymous’ Barrett Brown told RT.
more on : http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/megaupload-anonymous-mpaa-riaa-websites-hacked-283427
Seems the problem is getting serious.
other related news :
U.S. Authorities Shut Down Megaupload for Piracy
Justice department drops the hammer on Megaupload, arresting its leaders, seizing hundreds of millions of dollars in property and blasting the popular file-sharing website in a 72-page indictment.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/megaupload-shut-down-piracy-283397
@kris
“Hacktivist Group Anonymous Take Down Government, Music Industry Websites”
I hate to be a wet blanket on all the fun but this was the most counterproductive possible move. This showed those in the U.S. congress that they are dealing with dangerous, lawless people intent on and fully capable of hacking into sensitive areas, possibly including those of national security. So right away, this only strengthens the position of the people who want these bills passed by a factor of about 100. Nice going, anonymous. I’d almost think you were really working for the other side you’ve been so helpful to them.
sigh. I just don’t know what to say. The groups that are “going after” piracy just don’t seem to get the picture. All use of the word “you” in this rant is the non-specific, generalize, non-personal ‘you’, not directed at anyone here at JYJ3.
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You can’t “lose money” on product that people will not buy at the current price…
You can’t “lose money” on product that people cannot buy because it is not made available to them…
Get with the program. Make your product available and reasonably priced, aka do the job better than the pirates, and suddenly you won’t have such a problem, cause people will come to YOU to get their content, not to the pirates.
Depending on the “area” of infringement you are talking about, there are different reasons for why people don’t buy it, but the those two points above “can’t afford” or “can’t get” seem to always be the common denominator. Japanese anime piracy is big business, why? cause they don’t make it easily available to international viewers, who want to be customers but have no legal way to access it (and this is one reason i love crunchyroll so much, they went from being on the wrong side, to doing their best to prove the market, sure there are hiccups but they are doing a pretty good job so far). Honestly I think a lot of us would subscribe to an online streaming site that legally allowed video streaming of tv shows, movies, etc, for decent subscription rates (the per episode pricing seems always to be too expensive in the models I’ve seen), and also make the darn stuff available internationally, not just in one country (hulu, anyone?)
I’ve been watching this stuff evolve for years, it’s part of my job, and all I can do is shake my head at how “the powers that be” try to “fix” the problem and make all sorts of silly claims about lost revenue and damage and such, when they make no real effort to actually resolve the issues that are causing the piracy in the first place. If you make stuff available and cheap enough, people WILL buy it. But now you have to overcome a ‘get it for free’ mentality that you have allowed to develop by making your products unavailable or expensive as hell.
le sigh.
/rant
YES HULU!!! T.T
i’m tired of them saying we’re still working on this..sigh..
on one hand i feel impatient, on the other, i know its probably a tough job…gahrghararhajrh~
@flutterby
“i’m tired of them saying we’re still working on this..sigh..”
I totally and completely recommend Dramafever.com. They are the best of the best. And do subscribe. The service is by far the best there is, and is a stupidly great bargain at the price if you’re like me and you watch a lot of dramas.
🙂
@springbok7
“But now you have to overcome a ‘get it for free’ mentality that you have allowed to develop by making your products unavailable or expensive as hell. le sigh. /rant”
Good post, good post. I especially agree with the final line, above. It goes to show the inherent arrogance and intractability of record companies worldwide–wanting it ALL their own way, unwilling to be realistic about changing times and technologies. For me it was just as you said — “can’t afford” or “can’t get” –but overwhelmingly, I have to say, it’s been “can’t get.” There is no possible way the content I have wanted has been available to me anywhere.
Because I have searched long and hard. And so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what will happen. But I have to tell you that if it comes down that way, it’s going to make me fighting mad to have to pay some exorbitant YesAsia price to get ONE SONG I like on an OST CD when no individual tracks are for sale anywhere (like iTunes) on the net.
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It seems that many times, it was only through piracy that they learned where there was a foreign market. Anime, jpop, and now kdramas and kpop…They certainly weren’t trying to expand to a world market themselves until other countries’ interest was already proven.
@Linnea, oh god girlfriend, you have hit the nail SQUARELY on the head with the whole chicken and egg deal when it comes to j/k-dramas and anime, and even music I think.
I live in a place where we have always been fortunate to have access to ~some~ japanese programming, and lately also korean programming, on the television. But I’ll tell you one thing, i know for a fact (because I called the local station up and ASKED) that the content that the NGN channel in hawaii used to provide (15 years ago before the internet was as big as now) was flown out on VHS tapes every single day! yes, you read that right, some poor smuck had to transport the damn tapes on a plane every day. So we had a day or two time delay from when the broadcast was made in japan to when we could see it here. Those were the days when “fansubbing” consisted of getting on some secret mailing list, and having some sweet wonderful person mail you vhs tapes of the program.
Would any of the vast audiences now enjoying j/k-dramas and anime have been possible without those first baby steps? I seriously doubt it. People take the internet for granted now, and the ability to have content at their fingertips, like with dramafever, crunchyroll, and hulu, but without those early stages, no one would have known that there was a market for these products outside their native areas. When you really think about it, it’s utter foolishness. I really don’t understand why media-producers have to make region licensing agreements and crap like that. I mean hell, I can remember going to visit my grandparents in S.A. and being amazed at the “fabulous” programming they had (Nightrider and Kids Incorporated HAHAHAH! shuddup i was ~7 i think =P ) that was broadcast-delay BUT at least broadcast, and this is mid-1980s i’m talking about. My bro and I used to be very disappointed to go home cause those shows were not available at home in the UK.
@Lili, the dark side about what you’re talking about: how will you even know if you like a song, if you can’t access it to listen to it in the first place? Cause I am in the same dilemma as you. There are TONS of music/shows that I like and want to see, but they are unavailable to me either due to region issues (they are made in korea/japan) or licensing issues (for show X, hulu has an agreement to have only 5 shows up at a time, and whoopsie I didn’t know they’d started uploading the show and now I’ve lost my chance to see the first two-thirds of the bloody season!) or even worse, region AND licensing issues: my bro hates me cause I can watch stuff legally on hulu but he can’t cause he isn’t in the US.
Even JYJ is a prime example for me. I fell in love with them cause I saw them on Youtube. Then I wanted to listen to them without the video. So i looked for their music. Downloaded. Listened. And listened. and OMG i love these guys, went on a paced shopping spree and bought a copy of every album they’ve made as JYJ, bought as many of the dvds as I could find and afford, and now am stalking their OSTs (still recovering from COO purchase so pacing myself LOLOL!). But would I have EVER found them if it weren’t for the internet? nope not a chance. Would I have learned about SKKS? Maybe, cause I know it’s available to me on hulu and crunchyroll, but would I have actually watched it (being that i’m not a drama-fanatic)? probably not.
So yeah, “freely” as in “widely” available content is important for building your market, and also making that content easily obtainable is critical to sustaining your market. I happily pay ~$8 a month for hulu, and watch what I can there, just to support them. I cough up more for my crunchyroll premium all-access membership (~$12 a month, or $8.32 if you get the annual $100 a year membership), but again, I then have access to a good spectrum of anime, as well as a decent amount of k-dramas (too bad their j-dramas are a bit lacking, but I shall be a patient customer LOL!) The reason I’m listing these subscription rates is to give some comparison versus “per episode” rates that itunes etc charge. Anyone who watches many shows really can’t afford per episode rates that are more than $0.50 to $1, but even those can add up. I mean, for example, take the Japanese anime Bleach or Naruto, or Lost, or Fringe, or any other show that goes on for many years. Naruto has a total of some 245 episodes as Shippuden with 220 episodes for the original Naruto, Bleach is about to release ep 357, and Lost has 121 episodes. Can you imagine paying even $1 per episode? That would mean those two anime would cost you $822 with another $121 for Lost, add in a few of those korean saeguk that go on for a million episodes and my god it’s time to mortgage your house!
In my eyes, the subscription model works the best, though I am sure there are circumstances under which it is not ideal. But ideally, a situation where a multitude of shows/movies are available immediately for a price, and on a delayed basis for free, where the licensing is such that the entirety of shows is available (at least for the subscribers) and not just a portion of the season at a time, for that website, I’d be willing to plop down more than just $10 a month. I mean hell, if I could get such international programming streamed to my house to watch when *I* want to, i’d drop my cable subscription and gladly put the $100 a month that bastard costs me towards it.
holy crap, just realized how long this turned out to be. Loads more i could say but i think I’ll stop here for now LOL!
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Out of a fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar.”~Thich Nhat Hanh~
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OOOh love these! especially:
“Absorb what is useful. Discard what is not. Add what is uniquely your own.”~Bruce Lee~
“One problem with gazing too frequently into the past is that we may turn around to find the future has run out on us.”~Michael Cibenko~
lolol there’s a whooooole lotta people in a certain fandom who need to take the second one to heart LOL! i’m so bad!