They are hilarious! I haven’t even found one comment that said, “That’s Ashley Tisdale, idiots. What the heck is a Yoochun?” Every single comment is about Yoochun!!! ^___^
Well, but what to do? no one is flawless and perfect right?? I mean guys will smoke and/or drink and/or use drugs and/or playful (with girls) and/or gumble and so on… altho i dont like all of those, i can forgive if my bf (or the guy i like) doesnt use drug, playful and gumble… 😛 😀
but I am sure he was not gonna quit smoking for sure after this vid,look at his hand movement to cigarette.Why does he like the thing which go opposite way with his asthma
the very existence of the video cements yoochun’s ninja status lol. fans have upped their game in order to keep up with him. the smoking T.T…makes me uncomfortable. but seeing him there is fascinating. my eyes are glued on him haha.
chunnie! distracted my from my JJ message writing! how is that coming along for you @seobehrin?
My message is nothing but frustration and tears so far! I’m trying to write in Korean with the help of a dictionary and cross-checking against GoogleTranslate. I know GT isn’t the best, but I figured it could help if my sentences were simple enough. It did stop me from using one word that meant strong will, but apparently had the connotation of lust & desire. O_O
I could just write in English, but then he’ll never know what I wrote! Even if he learns English someday, what are the odds of him coming back to read this book? I’m hoping to at least make my message marginally understandable. T_T
well…even if there are mistakes you can be sure that it will amuse Jaejoong 🙂 if you put in a disclaimer that you can’t write or read korean he will get it haha. i’m sure he can read simple english words at least!
Let’s make it 5. I hate the fact that he smoke. x_x he will be better without cigars and alcoholic drinks. It hurts me a lot. He’s my bias, and this truth is really heart-breaking. 😥 but i’ll always love him and JYJ. I hope he will stop his bad habit.
LOL @ Zan JYJ
yeah i think more than 75% of male and female (including me, you, JYJers, and our GOD JYJ) smoke, drink and have sex O—-O …. because we all are human …. hehehe
(i mean either smoke, drink or have SEX )
youtube comment are so hilarious .. laughing out loud … the PopCandiesTv must be scratching their head … WHO IS YOOCHUN
@ILUJYJ
well even if we don’t do is just our choice,not because it is prohibited,we are all adults.
That TV will be surely scratching their head,who is yoochun.
@zan Hopefully they don’t do all three at the same time! Sounds dangerous!!! O_O lolol
I guess because of all the anti-smoking laws around here, most people I know who smoke are trying to quit, so it’s actually become a bit odd for me to see someone smoking.
@seobehrin
sis please answer me back this one. I wanted to know for acedemic reason,where is your place,is there a law to quit smoke,does it help.I may write my paper about it.
The worst thing here is mothers smoke when they are pushing kid’s trolley.the kids are getting the smoke,too bad.
@zan I live in the US, and the federal government has put heavy taxes on cigarettes, both to gain money and to discourage smoking. As a result, smoking has become a really really expensive habit, and many people were forced to try and quit for financial reasons alone.
Also, I’m not sure if this is nationwide, but here in Ohio at least, laws have been passed making it illegal to smoke in business, even bars. So smokers have to go outside to get their fix, even in the worst storms and most freezing weather. And even then, they’re not allowed to smoke within so many feet of the doors, so that people may enter and leave without walking through a cloud of smoke. Some places like hospitals even prohibit smoking in their parking lots and require smokers to go all the way across the street.
@seobehrin sis thank u. ok ohio I will research on that. cool people need to do that cos here in London women smoke more than men,their concept is sexy women smoke,they smoke with their child around which irritate me most and even it is prohibited to smoke in bus stop they smoke near bus stop,which I get secondary smoking.I don’t smoke because I am afraid of health risks so I hate when I get secondary smoking.Your place has less smoking which mean healthy air for u sis.
@zan Yes, when it came down to it, they couldn’t talk people out of smoking so the only way to decrease smoking was to make it too costly and inconvenient. Now if someone smokes around children, they get side eyed pretty hard.
서베린 (@seobehrin) you live in Ohio????? I live in Ohio too!!! What a coincidence!! Hi! ^^ And I am so very happy we have these laws. Since second hand smoking is also very dangerous and makes many children and people very sick 😦
@JYJFan Yes! I live about an hour from Cleveland!! How about you? Omg, I’m so excited to hear from another Ohio fan! I hope they come to Cleveland someday. Then you and I can be the ones to bring awesome fanaccounts to JYJ3. ^_^
@JYJFan Oops! I was so excited to hear from another Ohio fan that I forgot to comment on the smoking laws!
I remember when I was a kid, everyone smoked. We had a complete culture of smoking. Then they started the smoking awareness campaigns and they put these laws in place. There was a lot of grumbling, but slowly as more people stopped smoking and less people started smoking to begin with, there was a change in the culture. And once there was no longer a coat of cigarette ash all over everything, people realized how bad it smells when they DO smell it.
It’s pretty amazing how an awareness campaign coupled with laws managed to actually change what people thought was acceptable.
I will proudly say, “me 7.” I am a 29-year old woman, and I have seen people around me destroy themselves with their bad habits. I by no means view him as a god or perfect, but someone I’ve come to care about, even from the other side of the world.
I don’t want to see Yoochun destroy his singing voice, or worsen his asthma to the point that he needs to be on a nasal cannula and carry a bottle of O2 where ever he goes, or get cancer and have to have a tracheostemy or have parts of his face removed. Reality can be very cruel.
Therefore, I very sincerely wish he and Jaejoong would stop smoking, even though it is very difficult. They have strong wills though, and I believe they can do it.
it would be good if he quit,because he has asthma,if he don’t have asthma I won’t say this much.But his personality is not the type who listen,the only way is,he himself think he is harming his voice and health or someone he love will tell him in calm manner.
@Zan: and i really hope our JYJ
boys, immediately get SOMEONE
who really pay attention to their
health, and of course our JYJ
boys will hear all the worries of
that PERSON.. (gf.red )
@Seo: “I don’t want to see
Yoochun destroy his
singing voice, or
worsen his asthma to
the point that he needs
to be on a nasal
cannula and carry a
bottle of O2 where ever
he goes, or get cancer
and have to have a
tracheostemy or have
parts of his face
removed. Reality can
be very cruel.” » I read a news yesterday, a child dies because of smoking habits of his parents .. Passive smokers are more susceptible to the effects of cigarette smoke. therefore I do not like smokers, besides endangering themselves they also harm others .. too bad..
parent smoke with their child around is my ultimate hatred thing.
my point with YC is only he can decide himself,hope my brother won’t regret in his later life.
Because he smokes, they make a fuss out of it??? LOL Do they live in Heaven where no one smokes, drinks, uses drug, has sex, gumbles and does evil things to others??? Well, if they live there, they wont bother to make useless comments , i guess…
LOL @ those ppl… Yes, I dont do all the above mention ed things except the last one.. Come on, we are human, if we are 100% flawless, i dont think we are human anymore… we will be angels or monks or preists… 🙂
*blush blush* the last one that i do is “doing evil things to others”… 😀 If someone back stabs me, I dont like to forgive.. I will do something really evil to that person.. I know i should ignore or forgive.. But i just cant seem to do so…
Way,,,,, girl, i have been single for 5 years , ya know… *proud noona here, chun baby* This 5 years, YC is the only guy who can melt my rock-like heart~~~ 😉 😛
everybody knows he smokes though…its an open secret…plus…not that this makes smoking any better…but in SouthKorea especially, its really common for people, especially males, to smoke, so nothing scandalous about this tbh :3
O.K. who is so call antis …. Homin fans … GOD as far as i Know All the DBSK5 boys smoke, except JUNSU, …. so don’t worry Honey …. Korean Man knows two things … Smoke and Soju …. thats their culture … OPPS … running to corner
It is a culture of Chinese, Japanese n korean that they drink… Since thousands of years ago.. Smoking?? Yes, nowadays it is the culture of the whole world where even women smoke.. What is wrong??? Yes it is not good for health.. But not only smoking and drinking are not good for health… eating some unhealthy food is not good for health also… So no one is as healthy as GOD , i guess… I dont smoke nor drink but i enjoy unhealthy food… 😛 so what i like it!!!!!
O.O I’m finding the right place to butt-in and THIS:
“I dont smoke nor drink but i enjoy unhealthy food..so what, I like it!!!”
ROFLMAO..so true..me too!!
We all know unhealthy food are not good for us, but we still can’t resist..afterall, we are just human, righto?
So, same to YC-ssi..I’m sure he knows better than anybody here..smoking is not good for him..
but this is his choice..so WHAT?
Also, in my book..a person being a smoker doesn’t automatically turn him into a devil and vice versa..
a non-smoker is not necessarily an angel!
I know many non-smokers would like to believe so, thinking they are better persons, and what not..
but no..that’s not how it works! Sorry.
ps: on a side note, of course, I hope he’ll quit smoking for his own good..I want my YC to be a healthy boy, hihi^^..
but hey, it’s his life, let him decide..:)
Dont know why nowadays we dont see each other on JYJ3… I mean when i reply ur comments , u r no longer on the blog.. T_T
“book..a person being a smoker doesn’t automatically turn him into a devil and vice versa..
a non-smoker is not necessarily an angel!” ~~ u got it right honey.. Guess what those who express to be angels are more evil…
“Ps: on a side note, of course, I hope he’ll quit smoking for his own good..I want my YC to be a healthy boy, hihi^^..
but hey, it’s his life, let him decide..:)” ~~ that should be the way.. sure we want them to be healthy.. But no one is perfect.. So let him decide who he wants to be and what he wants to do.. 🙂
You 2 lovely chunsas @nandar and @bubbly Hi-Five!
Well, I don’t smoke nor drink either. And I eat some unhealthy food but come with a price, like food that is too spicy, too fried will cause me sick – bad sore throat, everything must be in moderation. I cannot inhale people’s smoking too cos’ I cannot breath in that and I don’t or hardly drink alcohols, it will cause me a terrible headache. I have to live my allergies and intolerance to certain food too 😦
Frankly speaking, it’s best to cut down on smoking and drinking especially Yuchun and asthma is no joke.
…. this is so random….
And he was talking to one of the guys who was with Ashley Tisdale. It seems like he’s invited to the party. This is crazy! Is Yoochunie going Hollywood now???
LOLOMG Chun got caught by paparazzi even when they didn’t want to capture him xD HAHAHA this is too funny, God bless the ninja who found this video and saw Chun lol
I’m also wondering what the heck he’s doing in LA…and why he’s with his manager everywhere, can’t he travel by himself? O.o
Yuchun can’t go anywhere unprotected. Have you seen the size of his manager? He knows Judo and doubles as a bodyguard. Actually, he triples as a manager, bodyguard and friend. Who wants to go somewhere alone anyway?
Yuchun said in his Thailand fan meeting that he likes to go to clubs. No big reason to go, he just likes it. And this club is one that celebrities go to, so he doesn’t have to worry about fan girls bothering him.
I bet this photographer was super ninja. Nobody saw the camera.
Ahhh…now I see….well even so its his life not theirs. We all know that AKP and the morons who hang out there don’t give a shit about his health or any “bad message” he might be sending to fans for having a smoke. They just wanna start shit like always so if that is the best they can do let them. Poor souls.
Agree. To make an issue out of chunnie smoking would be so narrow-minded .. smoking or non-smoking does not make you the person you are. Everyone is responsible for their own well-being.
yes, SMOKING health promotion is the hardest thing to do,there are people who have to cut their legs and arms because of smoking but they smoked till the end even after all 4 limbs lost.How can we tell him from fat apart to stop. He and his life. But liking or disliking an artist due to smoking is a little bit delicate for me.I hate drinking.I cannot stand smokes but is my life,my choice.All that I can wish is he will take care of himself.
@zan Young people seem to be under the impression that these things only happen rarely. But they really happen all the time. How many people have I seen in their 40’s and 50’s, stuck in wheelchairs and suffering from emphysema or COPD, and they all say the same thing. “I started smoking when I was 15 years old…”
Perhaps I see it more because I live in a poor area, but that’s where these people end up after their health declines. Many of these people were successful in their youth. They were engineers, lawyers, they owned businesses. But medical bills will drain your bank accounts very quickly.
If you live in a wealthier area, and shop at fancier places than Wal-Mart, you don’t see how many of these people there truly are. They drop out of your income bracket and out of your sight.
@seobehrin sis my heat hurt when I see a middle school kid smoking with expression”I am doing coolest thing on earth” but smoking is really additive people cannot cut it. Even doctors,nurses,health promoter themselves cannot quit smoking although they are telling others to stop.Nearly half of my class go out to smoke in break because of stress,I go out for fresh air and is filled with smoke already,I hate passive smoking.Although I feel like I want to try when I got stress but I restrain myself for health reason and I hate the taste of it.I will smoke when it come vapor electronic ciger with minty smell.
@Zan: dear.. u better not try to start smoking, one of my BF start smoking bcause she had a stress during her break up time.. and it was about 5 years ago .. until this day she is still smoking. so i beg u.. please don’t u ever dare. to bad for ur health and ur money..
@putrihs
U made me confused LOL 😀 “One of ur BF”??? BF means “boyfriend” or “best friend”?? I was taking it as “boyfriend” and soon read “she” and “her break up”.. 😀 LOL poor me~~~ 😛
@Zan @Putrihs
It is true that driniking and smoking is addictive but it depends on individual as well.. Believe it or not.. I tried both… 😀 I tried smoking when i was like 10+ years old (very very young) and after the first try, i cough like hell and when u smoke, u have the taste of somke in ur mouth.. It was too awful for me.. that was the first and the last time i put a cigarette in my mouth.. May be i was too young to addict it or my family is too strict to do those… But even when i left my family for my study in abroad, i do not smoke and i know that i dont like the taste.. 🙂
When i was in my early 20s (like 21, 22) i started to drink.. I start to drink wine to get a good sleep (just to replace sleeping pills) then i started to drink… If i am with my friends who drink, i will drink (a few glasses).. But now i dont drink anymore.. @Zan should know very well that drinking and smoking for girls (ah no no.. even for guys) are must-not-do things in our country… Thats why i think it depends on individual wherether that person like to do it or do it cuz of some reason… If u like smoking and drinking, it is very addictive… U do it just for fun or for some other reason but u dont enjoy doing it, u can stop anytime u want… Like me, i totally stopped drinking… Those ppl who say they cant do but they want to do, are just bullshitting!!! 😀
“Those
ppl
who
say
they
cant
do
but
they
want
to
do.” » this! too many people around me who say things like this, until I felt it was just nice words just to please others.. >___< thank God u can Quit.. 🙂
@nandar & @putrihs I don’t know about alcohol, but for smoking, it takes more than one cigarette to become addicted. You can smoke about a pack over time and think you have it under control. You don’t *need* to smoke. But by the time you finish that first pack, you’ll find yourself craving them.
People who are quitting smoking, or at least trying, go through very real withdrawal symptoms that are certainly not pleasant, and definitely not BS.
oh yes.. smoking n drinking will give u severe withdrawal syndrome if u quit after gettinh addicted to it..
But there r stilppl who cam make it happen, right?? I might b wrong.. But i beliee tat one can achieve e goal so long as he has e strong determination nn put in hard work.. 😉
by the way I see it on the first video, yoochun is trying to talk and confront with the man who wearing the hat but it looked like that man just dont want to listen to him. i guess
YooChun talked to this person.. and that person talked to ashley tisdale.. & do YC & AT they knew each other? ashley tisdale is a singer am i rite? maybe JYJ wanna make an international album again? and make a coloboration with ashley tisdale? who knows? xDdo YC
If paparazzi find out he’s a big celebrity in Korea then he better watch out for those idiots, because when they see money they go for it! Nice he is hanging with the in crowed in Hollywood!
Does it really matters if antis start to say bad things about Chunnie after watching this vid?
Honestly, their opinions do not matter.
For they are already antis who will hate anyway.
Let’s just not get too uptight about it.
As the saying goes,
“Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don’t Matter and Those Who Matter Don’t Mind.”
And I think, Chunnie is a big boy now and he knows what he’s doing.
Smoking is bad, yes. But it’s his choice and I’m not gonna like him lesser because of this.
Babe, I have to agree and to nod at your comment. That’s right. He’s a grown up man, he knows waht to do. The only thing I would like to say to him is “Chun, I really like you as a person and as an artist and I want to have you by my side forever. Please take care” 🙂
J2, sweetie, what are you doing out of bed at this hour??? LOL, I’m just kidding my dear, don’t be mad at me. It’s just that I was suprised when I saw you posting comments at this hour. Greetings my lovely ninja 😀
haha^^ yeah, at this unearthly hour for me!
Nice to ‘see’ ya.. haha
Just wanna clarify, I’m not supporting him smoking. (I dont like it either and hope he stops too.)
I think he knows it’s unhealthy and esp when he’s a history of asthma.
But as I mentioned, he’s a grown man now and he makes his own choice.
¡AHHHH! ¡Yoochunnie, you were talking to Ashley Tisdale!!! This is really amazing. In the first video, the first person I noticed in the left, Chun’s back, impossible to skip him. By his side his ahem…… yuck manager? Well, although he’s not a nice man, I do appreciate his job protecting the boys 🙂 ¿Does he was with Jerry Slaughter? That’s not a rare thing, in fact I’m almost sure he traveled to LA to talk to him about the dancers for the LAmerican concerts. The only thing I am thinking now; do Chun and his manager left the place with Ashley Tisdale and Gabe Saporta or my eyes cheated on me???????
What’s wrong with his manager? He is nasty to fans trying to get close to Yuchun, but he does a good job of protecting him, and he loves Yuchun with all his heart. I always appreciate that Yuchun has him by his side.
I’m curious now too why you say ‘yuck’ and ‘not nice man.’ Are there stories behind this? All I know of him is the little clip of him playing the newspaper folding game with YC.
Hi dear. According to several fans who have had “close encounters” with the boys in the streets, their managers use to be a little rude, disagreeable and even aggresive with the fans who approach to them to ask for autographs, pics or else, specially if they are more than three. I’m not blaming the managers, it’s their job to protect the boys but they could be at least a little polite to move away the fans.
@shu I think if they are polite, fans will not give up easily, so they must be firm and intimidating about it. That’s how we have to speak to the messed up people around here that approach us asking for money.
I think it is not only JYJ’s managers or SK artists’ managers or Hollywood artists’ managers… I think all the managers are the same i guess.. They ahve to protect and cut the hanging fans so that the artists can move to the destination, right?? I mean, Let’s say, they are on the way to saloon, there is one fan spotted the artist, then ask for the signature, the artist gives him/her… Then the other crowd noticed him too and tried to get the signature.. If the artist is giving it to everyone from the crowd, they cant proceed to saloon.. They have a show and they got to go to the show after the went to saloon… Imagine the story like that.. 😀 of cuz the artists will never say no~ So the managers has to come in to be the bad guy, right?? I think this is part of their job also…. 🙂 thats why all the managers are the same…
@shadow you nailed it, that’s what i want to say. He is old enough to make his choices and decide for himself. I personally hate the smell of cigars but i don’t condemnd people who smoke. It don’t make them less a man if they smoke. And at least he is honest about it.
There’s like a man hug, I don’t know what it’s called when guys do that half hug, shoulder thing to greet each other at around 128 between yoochun and gabe.
Even i hate that Yoochun is smoking in this video, I am happy because he’s there with Gabe and Ashley ! Wow Is he that famous aroung hollywood celebrities? I can’t believe it ! That’s our man ! JYJ 😀
agree ,am i the only one who think jyj should stay in asia ?
i live in europe so iam not so intrested in this hollywood thing,people in asia have other opinions about west
like if you do something in us than you really have achieved something it doesnt matter what the result are
look wondergirls,now snsd and Rain after 2 films
i want jyj to stay in asia he really looks out of place
sorry but this is what i feel
“i want jyj to stay in asia he really looks out of place”..ummm no…
But I agree with u for different reasons….business wise, i think it would be smarter if they forget about the US and focus on the European/SouthAmerican/asian markets…truth be told the US isnt really receptive to anything that isnt in english or from someone who is not white/american…….plus the US music industry is a lot harder to crack since its big/really competitive, everyone wants 2 make it here blablah…..i think they would totally find some success faster in European markets for instance, since they are used to listening to music in another language, also I notice the songs that get popular in many European countries differ compared 2 what gets popular in the US a lot of times,they have different tastes, and I think JYJ could definitely find their niche in that market…..and if they so wish….that seems like a faster gateway to making it in the US
No. JYJ need to expand their target. Because Asian commonly think when a singer, particularly idols, reached 30 years old they will not be count as young again but that totally different in USA and Europe.
@palomita I agree, the US market is a tough nut to crack. The mainstream can be very narrow minded. Asian accents are considered unsexy, and a quick YouTube search of them would yield tons of fodder for jokes. (skinship, makeup, Balloons MV, Dangerous Love, etc.) People here are not kind. The people here who like them are either Asian themselves, or people who are less mainstream, and therefore widely scattered, geographically.
If they had huge success in Asia, Europe, and South America, only then would the US mainstream be more likely to give them a chance.
@buff I noticed that. JYJ, Big Bang, SuJu, BoA, TVXQ…that crop seems to be the oldest in the idol industry while everyone else is very very young. The fans in Asia also seem to expect an uninterrupted stream of albums, concerts, and TV appearances from them.
In the US, pop singers sing well past their 40’s, and only release an album every few years. No one forgets about them! Are Asian fans’ memories so short? Also, if an artist makes too many TV appearances here, we say they’re overexposed and people get sick of seeing them. It’s a completely different mentality!
yuchun-ah, why are you still smoking ?? 😦 smoking is not good for singers !! 😦 I dont want him to lose his beautiful voice…now this makes me wonder is jaejoong still smoking too? I hope he stopped since it can seriously damage his voice.
im agree, i mean, cmon, a lot of people smokes, so whats the problem? i know that its not healthy but they are grown men….if they like to smoke, its their decision…
Smoking damages the voice. Since they are singers, and we are fans of their voices, it’s not just us having idle opinions on something that doesn’t concern us.
You’re right, I’m not pro-smoking but comments like “YC, please stop smoking….., why is he smoking….and so on” are getting boring. YC is 26 yrs. old, I believe he’s a responsible person, he definitely is aware what’s good or bad for him and he knows his limits. Cigarettes now are classified as lights, mild, regular and strong, and there’s even dummy cigs, nobody of us here can tell what he’s using. If he sings to his cigs ” I’d rather had bad time with you, than a good time with something else”, there’s nothing we can do.
I had to hold in my screams because Yoochun and Gabe Saporta had a bro hug and I can’t even…Gabe is awesome and so is Yoochun. It’s like two of my greatest music loves colliding with each other.
this video is actually funny, it’s supposed to be all about ashley and gabe, but most of the comments are about yoochun xp
secondly, it hurts to see him smoking, because we all know it’s not good for his health (he even has astma) and for his voice.
i’ve just looked for the article in Allkpop and people there are more talking about him smoking (a lot didn’t even know) than about the fact he was spotted with famous hollywood-people
and yeah, it’s a fact, smoking is no sin, it’s probably from all the stress he had to go trough and if your addicted, well, you are, you can’t stop in 1-2-3 (i know what i’m talking about) AND he’s an adult so he knows what he’s doing, it’s his life
chunface stays chunface, smoking OR NOT
(this will probably be my longest comment yet (sorry if it’s completely boring xp))
Mmm aha I see now. Chunnie is with JERI SLAUGHTER and PAUL MORENTE the directors/choreographers of JYJs US tour. Paul is the one yoochun is talking with most of the time. Cool how they’re still in contact! Chunnie might had business with them or called them up in LA. Plus I know Paul and jeri are really close with Ashley tisdale so prolly met through them a bit. Good socialization skills yoochun!
How do I know this? I still follow jeri and Paul on twitter and they said they hung with Ashley haha. ^^;;
yeey .. thanks for shedding some light 🙂
btw, does yuchun’s family still has a place in the US? He’s probably having some vacation time where he thought he won’t be noticed that much (guess that was just wishful thinking for chunnie as I read the fan account posted earlier.:)
maybe he is meeting them for the south american tour?
tough I really hated those choreographies …too slutty…I hope they wont do the same in here, Iwant to see JYJ. not a lot of girls all over them LOL
LOL i was thinking the same! Or just a plain Jane vacation 🙂 haha i didn’t mind the choreography, but it was under the direction of our boys anywho. They called the shots, and they wanted a sexier performance to suit the US audience, and oh boy did they do it justice x) but I was also a bit jealous of the back up dancers.
Don’t count me on this, but I think it was Paul or jeri, or collab, where they choreographers many of their catchiest English songs like empty be the one and ayyy girl.
I really don’t understand your comment. Their choreography wasn’t slutty by any stretch of the imagination. And Yoochun is famous for doing sexy routines no matter which group he is dancing with. I went to the LA concert last summer and thought it was fun. I think fans are over-reacting and simply don’t want any girls near the boys period.
I didnt like the dances, I watched the Seoul concerte last week with my friends and none of tus liked it…we all agreed in that some of the dances didnt match the song…I like sexy dances, but these I didnt like them, that’s all
I think he lives in Korea….because remember Yoochun talked about how his father was really sick in that award show and would probably be crying watching him win that award. I don’t think they could have that kind of connection if his father lived in America.
why isn’t anyone seeing he put a cigarette in his mouth, sick, i’ve been a devoted fan for years but this is just shocking. why smoke yoochun and be around those weidos? i guess he’s like them
Everybody have seen it, calm down. You don’t need to live with him, right? Then what problem do you have with him smoking? He and Jaejoong smoked from their early childhood, he won’t stop just because fans don’t like it. Actually except Junsu all four of them smoke. In Korea or Japan people don’t make such a fuss about drinking or smoking, it’s a form of social bonding there. I don’t get why fans want to force Western standards on two Eastern guys? Jeez…
don’t get why fans want to force Western standards on two Eastern guys? Jeez…
i think this part is a bit wrong. smoke is bad for health to everyone worldwide, there is no such things as western standard or not when it comes to smoking.
So what if Jae and YC smoking? That’s their chose. We can’t force what we want to him, why? Because that’s their own lifes. They are young men already, they can have their own life. End it there.
I know that smoking is bad for health. By Western standards I meant we have all these laws protecting the non-smokers, the media going on full blast about cancer and such, generally people observing smoking something very bad you need to avoid what ever it takes. That’s our way of thinking. Eastern people see this matter differently, for them smoking is a totally accepted thing, just like drinking. If you see a man lying on the pavement out cold or vomitting, you think it’s discusting and he shouldn’t have do that to himself. If a Japanese or Korean man do this, even strangers help them to get home or get somewhere they can sleep it off, because they know it’s required of those men to go drinking with their colleagues after work, it’s an accepted way of bonding and socialising between people. Two different opinion and view of the same thing. You can’t ask Yoochun to change his way of thinking (the Eastern one) just because Western people see this differently than him.
Being a fan doesn’t mean you have some magical say over how this GROWN MAN lives his life. I even question your intentions because I’ve seen your past comments here and they aren’t so nice. Are your Yunho and Changmin weirdos too then cause they smoke as well. Drink too. Heck next thing you know they’ll be dancing with women and making babes. THE SCANDAL OF IT ALL!!!!!
Lol. If you are his fans for years, you should know that all DB5K members (exept Junsu) are smoking. I see no big deal in there, he is a normal guy. He smoking, so what? He is 25 years old anyway.
I agree with you. Why is chunnie’s smoking such a big issue? I dunno if this is accurate but a large number of men in Japan and Korea smoke because it’s a stress reliever and partly because of the cold. I don’t smoke and I don’t advocate smoking but I won’t judge someone just because he or she smokes. I’m gonna panic if I see chunnie lighting another cigarette with the one cigarette he’s still puffing, that would make him a chain smoker already, but then again it’s still his life. The way I see it, chunnie is an adult, smoking is probably some guilty pleasure but not something he lives for.
People who love him and same His fans are concerned for it. For it health. . Because the % of the persons that had disgusted, of a cancer of the lungs is very high in their countries and falls namely of the smoke. I for this think that so critically they interact for the issue of smoking.
@Hanna I am “shock” by your reply. Really? You are a devoted fan? Oh really~~ Unfortunately the readers here are not 6years old. We can see you are lying~~ ಠ_ಠ
@Hanna
Peace all..
forgive @Hanna..she forgot to bring her brain along with her this time round, that’s all!
..or maybe..she didn’t even have one to start with!
A sick and brainless @Hanna, pity 😦 *shakeshead*
(facepalms at many of the comments here) Yoochun is a grown-ass MAN. Korea has LOADS of virginal boy-bands for those who want that…Teen Top, Boyfriend…the upcoming EXO ~ ~ and many more will be melted, poured into casts and placed on a shelf for purchase by the idol factories in the future.
Yoochun is going to smoke, drink and get-his-groove on….because he’s GROWN. (sigh)
THIS. He’s a grown man and this is not new information. He’s not shoving it in people’s faces, he’s smoking, drinking, and enjoying himself on his own time, around his schedule of putting at fantastic material for us.
“his own time” <– I think this should be in caps and bolded or something. Is he expected to conform to people's images/ expectations of him 24/7? It's not even a secret that he's a smoker, why does this issue have to come up each and every time? Yeah, it's bad for him (and everyone else in the world, hello, not just oppa) but he's a grown man who clearly knows the consequences of bad habits. Harping on him/ being disappointed etc is not gonna help any. Giving up a vice is a personal choice because it depends on your own willpower.
I find a smoker hot LOL no biggie. Even more so, a smoker Chun is a major hottie smoker. LOL
people need to stop with the whining coz its annoying and Chun is not a freaking 12 years old in his middle school uniform got caught on camera smoking.
That’s Yuchun…you either love him or hate him.If you are a true fan,you take him for what he is. When he’s ready to quit smoking, he’ll do it on his own.
LOL everyone in akp busy talking about yoochun smoking….but the main point is what is yoochun doing there? i’m really curious. first we thought he is going sa for the concert related stuff now he is spotted in hollywood. i wonder whether its for work or leisure
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we should be spazzzing about yoochun hanging out with hollywood stars and questioning the whys
i hope we will have a clear picture soOn on why yoochun is doing in US
some comment just…….Grow up……Chunnie, he is a men now, that his choice…smoking is not s good thing for him but not a bad thing for pps criticize him…That personal choice ….like i choice don’t like tomato even i know it good for my health…I like to to drink couple of bottle wine to make my meal more tastes as long i know i can control myself…it mean pps can justice me?? ..cmom…..They are not the boys in the crystal ball any more ……please look at the talent music and the way they handle their life like the men…not just how their eat, sleep, drink ..like take care baby……I only see in this vids are the boys they foot other step in to the bigger world they used to see!!!!!
probably those comments come from younger girls, I understand them, they see the guys like some kind of gods, perfect and all that…but they are not…they are human, grown ups…so they will have bad habits like smoking or get drunk, which i dont see as a bad thing, I also do both from time to time with my friends, why they cant?…many people are taking too serious something that is just so common…
Some comments need grow up! We are talking about 25 years old young man, if he chose smoking. So what? It’s his own chose. He is a normal guy and I think everyone in here know that Yooochun n Jaejoong are smoking.
Btw, what the hell this ninja doing over there????
” Btw, what the hell this ninja doing over there????”
That is supposed to be the main concern, that we should be talking and excited about.
Not that smoking thing!
I will say I did not know YC or JJ smoked. From a health stand point, I would perfer for YC to not smoke, especially since he has asthma. Smoking will effect your singing voice in the long run and his asthma. Now as far as himdrinking I do not have a problem with that as long as they do not turn into an alcholic and hurt anyone why drinking. But even saying all of this I do feel he is a grown man and can live his life the way he want. I just hope that he takes care of himself. Knowing that YC smokes is not going to stop me from loving him. After watching the video I really cannot see what is thier to report on regarding anyone who was in the video. Really what could the hatiers get from this video to say bad about YC. It is not like he is being caught smoking crack, its a cigarette. Now the cegarette is not good for him but its not crack, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So really what news is there to report on him.
This. I don’t understand why everyone is jumping down others throats JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT YOOCHUN’S HEALTH.
As a fan, we feel that it is our responsibility to take care of the boys….BUT we know that our opinions will not change them. They are grown men and can make their own decisions…..and have to live with those decisions like the rest of us.
Still it is not okay to smoke and destroy your life. Every time we see a picture or a fan account of the boys smoking….the same old stuff happens. Some fans worry and post that they shouldn’t smoke. Some fans attack those fans by saying that they are old enough to make this decision for themselves, and it is ‘normal’. I don’t understand why caring for someone you like and posting your feelings deserves such harsh criticism.
This is what I am reading:
Fan 1: “Oppa you shouldn’t smoke it is bad for your health and you have asthma.”
Fan 2: “Are you stupid? They are ‘grown’ men and can make their decisions for themselves. And anyways it is ‘normal’ for Asians to smoke.”–>Like the fact we are criticizing their actions make us a bad fan…or makes us want to leave the fandom. No we do not see things in a ‘crystal ball’. And NO just because we are a fan of X Y Z person does it mean that we have to like every SINGLE aspect of them and treat them like ‘gods’ and cannot criticize.
In the case of the first fan I read worry in their post for their bias’ health….and a desire to see them live a long healthy life. In the other fans opinion I see excuses.
1. At the end of the day….smoking is not okay and not ‘normal’. If you have ever thought about it the only reason smoking is not banned like drugs is because the elite 1% rich also partake of this activity. It doesn’t make sense that drugs that have less health effects on your body are banned while smoking destroys your life and passes bad genes onto future generations too isn’t banned. I think smoking should be banned period. I would much rather see JYJ do healthy drugs that have little affect on their health then see them smoke. But, in the end it is not something that I or you can change. They are their own people.
2. The reason poorer countries have larger smoking populations is not because of ‘culture’. It is because the American markets who are the majority producers of these cigarettes needed to find a larger market for these unhealthy products, because America started restricting them. So when a country that has a higher educated mass starts getting taught the cons of something X company sells…..what did they do……they went to countries with uneducated masses…….and sold the products for cheaper. The people who smoke irregardless of culture……cannot be said to be smart. That is why I admire Junsu because he can stand up for himself and say no in a culture that is not smart and has many unhealthy practices (I am not being racist here or targeting Korea…..most of Asia is like this).
3. To those who condone smoking, I hope you understand that our fandom life will be short…….because eventually their voices will start deteriorating and their health will get worse…….and they WILL die at an earlier age. I don’t know if this makes me a bad fan………but the reason I love JYJ is because of their singing…..which is what they sell………once JY’s voices start deteriorating I don’t know if I am going to be a fan anymore. I don’t believe in the concept of ‘but oppa is so good and works so hard so let’s throw pity money at him’……..BUT I will definitely stay for the acting component.
4. I haven’t posted is a long time….but the reason for my rant is that by saying that it is normal for Asian’s to smoke and by saying that it is okay because they are grown men etc. you are indirectly sending messages to people who are JYJ fans and who have not yet started to smoke but have thought about it (ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ASIAN) that is that it is okay.
(In the end…..I still love JYJ. But I hate smoking. AKTF: In other words always keep your principles and beliefs. No person should have to change their opinion only because the others say you are wrong.)
yap everybody can have their own opinion.
If I am someone close to him,I can have a nice chat about smoking,persuade him to smoking cessation clinic and etc.
but he is an artist and that is so far apart from me.What can I do.Wish he take care of himself.
I don’t think you’ve read every comment yet. There are those who are calling him “sick” and a “weirdo” and saying stuff like, “I have to cut him off of my fav guys list because he smokes” (allkpop), etc. When such comments comes out that’s when we defend Chun and tell these “fans” to shove it! I mean you can care about a person, just realize you do not own them. Plus if you drink alcohol on a regular basis (getting drunk on fridays) or you’re an occational smoker or you eat junk food excessively, then you have no right to critisize his choice of lifestyle.
Also, fans sometimes forget that these stars are humans with brains and a family who cares. Do you for a moment, think that
(a) He does not know that smoking is bad for his health (DB5K has done no smoking campaign before)? Or do you think that he does not care about his own health? There must be a bigger reason for him to smoke.
(b) his mom does not care for him as much as fans do? That his mom would not advice him to stop if the risk outweighs the benefits? There must be a good reason why he smokes.
(c) SME would not have stopped all four boys from smoking if he thought it would ruin their career as singers? Apparently there’s a bigger reason why the boys still smoke despite the risks.
I for instance think that with all that singing (the screaming and the numerous concerts), they are more likely to scrape their voice and throat raw, till it bleeds. Did you guys never hear the story of Min trying to wipe his nosebleed with his mike during a concert, or the story of him spiting blood even though the doctor said he was very healthy? They are more likely to get throat cancer from this continuous abuse of the throat than from smoking. Is smoking bad? YES! Do the boys know its bad? You bet! They did a compaign for it afterall. So if Chun, with asthma and a singing career is still smoking, then I believe there is a huge reason for it. So after people express their concern for his health, they should cease there. The boys have a brain.
I believe it’s overdramatic to say that there must be some good reason, some bigger reason, some huge reason why he smokes. People smoke because they like it, because they think it looks attractive, because the people around them do, because of stress, or because they are too addicted to quit. What deeper reason could there be? Does someone have a gun to his head? Was it someone’s dying wish that he never quit? Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it.
So,
a) Many people care about their own health in theory, but not in practice.
b) If Korea has a smoker culture, his mom might not think anything of it.
c) Smoking takes years for the bad effects to really show. SM hardly cared about the longevity of their careers or their future health.
“They are more likely to get throat cancer from this continuous abuse of the throat than from smoking.”
You say this as if cancer was rare. It’s not. It’s really, really not.
The truth is, fans wishing he’s quit annoys people after a while. That doesn’t mean people need to make up excuses of why Yoochun *should* smoke.
BTW, I didn’t read the AKP comments. They sound really immature though, calling him names about it. I only care about people’s opinions here, because we don’t have to agree on everything to be friends. ^_^
He still smokes because he is addicted. Nicotine is hard to quit and no amount of “knowing” will fix it overnight.
He needs a strong resolve and he also needs help (not judgmental critiques and reiterating what he already knows) from nagging fans. He needs his family and friends. It doesn’t seem like he wants to quit though cause I’m sure that Junsu has offered many times.
At the end of the day comments on the internet from fans or non-fans are a moot point. If a fan expresses concern and another fan jumps on it that won’t affect Yoochun. Why should it? This is a matter of expression between fans. Unless fans come up with an attention grabbing manner of addressing their concerns to Yoochun he isn’t likely to want to read a long list of “Oppa please don’t smoke. Its bad for your health” no matter how nicely the fans say it.
He’ll just nod and agree its bad but he won’t do anything. Likewise saying things like, “I’m disgusted by this.” or “I can’t believe you smoke. I’m so disappointed” will just anger him and alienate him from the internet. He is already the most reclusive member of JYJ and he hides his smoking and fans know its an open-secret.
His smoking and drinking (Jaejoong’s too) is something that has to be approached with patience, grace and understanding. To be frank it would have to be a person he knows or a professional. Likely both.
Also the whole “culture” thing. Yes many men (and women too) do social drinking and smoking. Those are friends/colleagues they smoke/drink with and so they have a latch to continue their behavior but not everyone smokes and drinks and there is no insane pressure to do so. Junsu is a fine example. He has it easier because its far better for him to not fall into that when he clearly sees what happens rather than having to go through the process of quitting like Yoochun and Jaejoong.
@Seobehrin
I think its ridiculous of you and anyone else to think that you know the reason why he smokes. As hard as it may sound, seeing him on camera does not mean you know even half of his life-story. Stop coming up with the reason why he smokes. And stop looking down on him based on those ‘ridiculous’ reasons you come up with.
@loveunchanged I’d like to know exactly where I wrote ANYTHING looking down on him for smoking. I never claimed to know his life story, or to know his exact reason for smoking. So unless you can quote exactly where I said ANY of that, stop putting words in my mouth.
My point was that EVERYONE smokes for the same reasons, and that YOU saying there was a deeper reason for smoking is what is ridiculous. I’d like to hear what you think these ‘good’ ‘bigger’ ‘huge’ reasons for smoking could possibly be, because if you can’t even come up with ONE plausible possibility, then your entire argument is pointless.
@Zan: and i really hope our JYJ boys, immediately get SOMEONE who really pay attention to their health, and of course our JYJ boys will hear all the worries of that PERSON.. (gf.red)
well, I suffered from asthma no less than Yuchun (I supposed) and got all kinds of bad habit, hahaha, therefore I can perfectly understand why he didn’t quit smoking. One needs some bad habit to sustain our life, esp when we are stressed out from work. Anyway my only concern is, it will have some impact on his public image in short term (ppl will forget quickly though), e.g. on CF endorsement. If the product targets to teenager, a celebrity got caught smoking in public will have less chance. I am a marketing/ad person so this is the first thing that come to my mind.
Everyone or most fans knows that Yoochun smokes…since he has been caught on vid doing that a few times already…though it’s really not a good thing for his health and voice…I’m sure he knows his limits. The same goes for his drinking habits…He’s a grown-up man now and he should know what/when he should/should not do…he will give up these 2 bad habits when he knows it’s time to do that. Let him have some private space for a while….I’m sure he’s sensible enough to know that these 2 bad habits are destroying his health…If he wants to quit, he will quit. Just my opinion.
SM: sing like this, dress like, wear this, say this, move this way, touch your mate, don’t touch your mate, go to japan, come to korea, eat this, don’t eat this, get up, go to the gym, show your muscles, live together, bond together in a foreign country, done singing, jump in the airplane and go to other country, be loyal to your company, listen and obey your elders, don’t visit family, don’t even dare to date… and so on and so forth.
Some fans: don’t smoke, eat more, don’t go to usa, dont’ shag, don’t touch girls, don’t touch boys, come to my country, sing this song, don’t sing this song, don’t date, wear that, why did you wear that, don’t walk like this, don’t associate with those people, i want them with this woman, i don’t want them with this woman, wish they don’t drink, wish they choose a different project…and so on and so forth
Anyone see the parallels between the two entities…US fans can drive these men insane sometimes if we don’t let loose. So, let’s take a chill pill, let them have some big ol FUN.
Oh god, that is such an a$$hole comparison, and you know it’s not legit. You and some of the other people that post here are no better than any other fans, no matter how “mature” you try to make yourself sound. More than smoking, girlfriends, or poor choices, it’s self-righteous FANS who drive other fans away from JYJ. No matter how annoying you think it is, you should be GLAD fans care enough to be concerned about the Yoochun. You know damn well that JYJ has more freedom from fandom demands than pretty much anyone else in kpop, so you can stop insulting everyone who thinks or acts slightly different than you.
@-_- Wow, watch your tone! I agree with some of your points, but you make it difficult when you’re attacking like this.
@daebaksama I think when it comes down to it, intention is VERY important. Everything SM did was to try to wring as much profit out of them as possible. Likewise, fans that try to dictate the guys’ love lives also come from a selfish place.
When fans ask that they take care of themselves, though, it’s out of concern. How can this be equated with selfish demands and criticism?
wowww…That serious?????? We all care about the boys..that why we come here….i dont think @@daebaksama mean Insult anyone..(how many time we see the fans care and love the boys touch our heart and we cheers with all our lung) but sometime we have to think our care can change situation or not? or just make them more pressure even we did not mean it….The comparison just let you know they both make the boys harder life even mean bad site or good site..I am not smoking but i know quick smoke very hard feel very awful and a lot of effect..maybe you gain weight a lot , your skin may change for such time….do the boys to have the time deal with that right now?? why dont trust the boys know to control and handle it, their career is their life, should trust them know about that more than us…how may time parent love and care to much but dont trust and dont understand their kids make their kids too much pressure and result become opposite even worse?? i you really love them you hope you and other fans out there can get it…..if from.haters phhhuuu ….always hater!!!
@daebaksama ok that is one major daebak comment ahahaha
and may i add in the some fans comments?
some fans: i love my oppa, oppa is the best, oppa do what i like, i loving my oppa more, oppa did a bit not to the liking, start to worrying, oppa did a lot not to the liking, whining a damn whole lot, raging on internet, but still download oppa songs, keep on whinning, in the end of the day keep staring oppa’s nipples, a bit happy, oppa do what i like, now oppa is the best, oppa is a damn man, oppa need do act to my standard, oppa have standard, i want oppa to follow my standard, whining again, rage on YT, tmblr, FB, Twitter, #iloveoppathemost.
I’m glad he’s enjoying himself in L.A. and meeting new people! I don’t understand why there is such an uproar about his smoking, I mean we’ve all known about this for years. We all have a right to be concerned about his health, but I admit the comments saying he should stop bother me – fans have no right to ask such a thing. In my opinion, it’s ok to express one’s concern (e.g. “smoking is bad for his voice”) but it’s not ok to ask “oppa please stop smoking!”. It’s his choice, his life.
You would be more successful if you sent your message to his mom, brother or Jaesu. Does his brother have twitter? They might get him to quit. You never know!
It’s so different 😛 I read most of the comment on weibo (Chinese fans mostly) and their focus are on how cool Yuchun is with a cigarette, and what is he doing there, new plan in Hollywood? etc. I am not commenting it is no good to talk about health issue, but it’s just interesting to see the difference between east and west.
@naicha70
IKR?! But I’m here at JYJ3 site and I would love to know what he’s doing in Hollywood :P, curious-curious..
whatever..have a great time there, YC-ssi!!!!!!!! 😀
I love Yoochun (along with JaeSu) as what they are. Theres plus and minus, they are human not God so I dont understand why people judging him just because they doesnt like what yoochun do. Smoking is not a crime anyway, and he is 25 years old young man already. I still love you Yoochun, and always love you.
Same here….whether he smokes or not, that’s his decision. As I posted earlier, I do want him to take care of his health. He can do whatever he wants, I don’t want anyone to force him to quit if he doesn’t want to. I just want him to stay healthy so that he can act and sing for many years to come.
To be honest I am more in shock that this whole thing of YC being spoted in the video accidently smoking a cegarette is news worthy. The news has spread like it is the pleaque. I said it in my post above that it is not like he is smoking crack, LOL!!! Now that would be some news to report for sure. I am a real new fan of his and I did not know he smoked. Now that I know I say the same thing I say in general smoking is bad for anyone. Especially, in his case since he is a singer and has asthma. Yes, I do wish anyone who smokes can find a way to quit because it is bad for thier health. This is medically proven not by me but doctors and anyone who has been affected as result of years of smoking. However, he is a grown man and he needs to descide and find a way to quite. Also, I do feel it is ok for fans to voice thier concerns about him smoking. In terms of them hoping that he would stop smoking and take care of his health. But as a fan we really donot know him personally so we cannot not do anything else but just hope he takes care of his health. The people directly in his circle family and friends can take a more personal approach to get thim to stop smoking but not a fan. So for me yes i do hope he stops smoking one day because I want him to be around for a long time so I can enjoy him. Personally I would like to enjoy him literally but that dream will never come true, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until then I will continue to hope and pray he stops smoking. My love for him as a fan has not changed and will continue to grow.
To me, this is news worthy, or at least comment worthy because though I’d heard he smoked, this is the first time I actually saw him doing it. So right away, it stood out. Plus, he only appears for a few seconds while the guy was busy filming the wrong person, lol, so since I have no idea why he was in LA, smoking quickly becomes the only thing worth talking about.
wow, long post O_o!
don’t want to commend or give advice, just curious why Chunnie suddenly appear with them? i only want this answer… Other things…. well, he is Park Yu Chun i know from the beginning and i always know there are no such 100% perfect person in this world, Peace !
woooooaaaahhh!!!! love the comment! he’s smoke? okay, i hate it. but whatever! hahahaha! i just love the fact that people notice him! even more than ashley and gabe. who the hell are they?
@everyone
The topic is on what is YC doing here… 🙂 not why is YC smoking there… LOL
Ok, can i share my standing point on smoking (especially YC smoking)
Do I smoke = NO
Do I like cigarette smell = NO
Will I learn to smoke = NO
Will I encourage someone to smoke = NO
Do i think smoking is good = NO
Will I stop someone from smoking = NO
Do I think ppl who smokes has short life = NO
Do i wish a person (esp who i care for) to stop smoking = YES
Well, above seems to be contradicting right?? I know smoking is not good for health and i dont like (or arther i cant take) the cigarette smell.. But I will not stop someone from smoking. but i will (or rather i do and i did) suggest to reduce the intake or frequency and explain the side effect of smoking (if he/ she doesnt know).. quit smoking is his/her decision that i cant control.. But i dont accept ppl saying things like ppl who smoke will die earlier or smokers are evil or bad ppl.. NO!! thats is so wrong.. There are millions of ppl dying with heart disease, liver cancer, HIV, other kinds of cancers, and fatal accident (which are not smoking related).. It is true that smoking can cause most of the diseases i mentioned but not all those patients are smokers but may be majority… Sometimes u get liver cancer cuz of the food intake, or medication.. and there are lots of young ppl dying everyday due to fatal accidents among them some doesnt smoke nor drink AT ALL.. There are thousands of soldiers dying everyday ; they might smoke but they die not bcuz of smoking.. It is their fate if they have to die early or not… Of cuz it will be good if ppl can avoid all the unhealthy things.. But we all are humans right?? human likes sinful things (in terms of food or so).. I have a bit of high blood cholestrol level (altho i am very slim) but i love Prok Belly~~ Sinful ya?? 😛 I tried to reduce the intake but i still eat it.. Altho so, i cant predict myself that i will have a long life.. No one knows that , i guess… So what i mean is it is true that we care for the boys and we want them to be healthy.. Thats the reason some fans are asking him not to smoke.. But we cant assure their long life if they stop smoking, right?? So let them decide if they want to continue or not!!! 🙂 They are adults.. And so far i know, our JYJ boys are not that type of ppl who will brainlessly do stupid things wthiout thinking the outcome, agree?? So they know what they are doing.. 🙂 respect their decision… Of cuz i wish that he (in fact not only him, all the ppl in the world) is healthy and live a long life… (sound angelic?? ROFL)
When i first saw the vids i just thought that he’s a fan of Gabe’s, cuz my Chunnie listens to all different kinds of music, but now i’m not sure ~~ my biggest question is, what the heck IS he doing in LA??? ^_~ SARANGHAE CHUNNIE!!! ^_~
when i saw this post WOW 200+ comments but then YAHHH its all about smoking… poor Yuchunnie….i do believe Jeri S. brought him there, but still its a big exposure to yoochun having fun with some holywood celebs…
ah, everyone is having a heated argument over Yoochun’s smoking issue. I’ve come to accept that Chunnie does smoke, so this doesn’t surprise me at all. We can ask him to take care of his health, but the choice is his. He should know better than anyone how to care for himself and his voice. He’s a grown man anyway. I dislike guys who smoke and drink. But Jaejoong drinks a lot, and smokes too. What can I do? I still love him to death. Same for Yoochun. The thing that caught my attention in the videos was not Yoochun’s smoking, but that when the guy with black cap said something like “you know who they are. Come here, come here”, did Yoochun response with “Oh my God, no. Fuck no!”? XD That’s interesting. Why wouldn’t he want to be introduced to the other celebrities there? Overall, I find him totally cool hanging around in Hollywood like this. Still wonder about the purpose of his sudden trip to the U.S though.
when the guy with black cap said something like “you know who they are. Come here, come here”, did Yoochun response with “Oh my God, no. Fuck no!”? XD That’s interesting. Why wouldn’t he want to be introduced to the other celebrities there?
i didnt notice that ….he didnt want to introduced to them ?? so why did he go there ?
he is really sth….
all these comments about smoking O_O
actually i myself hate smoking plus drinking find it powerful killer
i really love yuchun and jae and wish they take care of their own health but it’s up to them
I pray for Allah to guide and protect them
I think yuchun is there to talk about business with this black cap guy however i wished jaesu were there too or at least jae
but what caught my attention is that i guess all those in the video knew abut that paparazzi camera except yuchun
I don’t like JYJ to be used
I have this feeling about this American stuff since the American tour
i admit.. its a turn off for me when a guy is smoking..
but when i saw YC smoking..it turns me off at first but my bias-ness for him never ceased …
my dad smoke too..but what can i do? though it annoys me but i still love him.. just like yoochun, it bothers me but it wouldn’t be , it will never be, a reason to not love him..
Reality check, when it comes to love… you’ll accept the person the way he is no matter what .. Just like having your perfect ideal man/woman but you ended up the opposite..
If he changes because of you, that would only be a bonus. The secret to a relationship is really acceptance and trust.
@nandar:.wooaahhhh… im sure u will missing uri chunnie.. hehehebebe.. take care. Bdw.. I’m also going to honeymoon for 2 days. but I’m gonna still trying to monitor the latest news from our ninja. have funnn.. 🙂
i’m curious, are those people writing “eww he’s smoking” comment also say the same thing to their family members or colleagues who are smoking? i don’t support smoking, especially in public which is still common *and annoying* in my country, but i don’t jump around saying “eww stop smoking” all the time. and i see most people not doing that. so i’m curious of why not many really “stand up” against people they know personally smoking, and many people being such busybody towards someone they don’t know personally. and well, it’s not like yoochun reading the whole “oppa stop smoking” comments.
this is probably just a hang-out between friends, but it’ll be cool if someday yoochun breaks into hollywood scene 😀
Loving the comments hahahaha
They are hilarious! I haven’t even found one comment that said, “That’s Ashley Tisdale, idiots. What the heck is a Yoochun?” Every single comment is about Yoochun!!! ^___^
And who are Ashley Tisdale and Gabe Saborta? That’s a serious question…
Never mind… Just found out, Ashley is the High School Musical chick but Gabe Saborta I still don’t know. LOL
haha, the question that came to my mind as soon as i saw the post .. 😛
cobra starship
Breaking out old Cobra Starship cds tbh, fandoms collide. Now if only JYJ covers Snakes on a Plane…
LOL yup..that’s chunface alright! With his manager beside him, there’s no mistake abt it
just WOW…
What the hell is he doing there??????
we call it socializing, relationship ^^
LOL I mean what is he doing in LA exactly??
all the comments about yoochun. the uploader is going to be wondering who is this yoochun and jyj.
that is for sure,up loader will be scratching his/her head
Yuchun has gone Hollywood!
Yuchun ah, please stop smoking. everytime i see you smoke, i just feel …so down. :((
are two
me three
me 4..
Well, but what to do? no one is flawless and perfect right?? I mean guys will smoke and/or drink and/or use drugs and/or playful (with girls) and/or gumble and so on… altho i dont like all of those, i can forgive if my bf (or the guy i like) doesnt use drug, playful and gumble… 😛 😀
me five
make it 4

I think in general we all dislike the fact that he smokes, since it’s so bad for his health and we just want the best for him and our boys
I hope we would quit soon 😦
I know! I was surprised he let himself be filmed smoking. He’s usually so ninja about it! T_T So cool to see him chillin’ in Hollywood though! ^_^
but I am sure he was not gonna quit smoking for sure after this vid,look at his hand movement to cigarette.Why does he like the thing which go opposite way with his asthma
If you look carefully at the making of europe clip they uploaded a few days ago you see him smoking there too =(
the very existence of the video cements yoochun’s ninja status lol. fans have upped their game in order to keep up with him. the smoking T.T…makes me uncomfortable. but seeing him there is fascinating. my eyes are glued on him haha.
chunnie! distracted my from my JJ message writing! how is that coming along for you @seobehrin?
My message is nothing but frustration and tears so far! I’m trying to write in Korean with the help of a dictionary and cross-checking against GoogleTranslate. I know GT isn’t the best, but I figured it could help if my sentences were simple enough. It did stop me from using one word that meant strong will, but apparently had the connotation of lust & desire. O_O
I could just write in English, but then he’ll never know what I wrote! Even if he learns English someday, what are the odds of him coming back to read this book? I’m hoping to at least make my message marginally understandable. T_T
well…even if there are mistakes you can be sure that it will amuse Jaejoong 🙂 if you put in a disclaimer that you can’t write or read korean he will get it haha. i’m sure he can read simple english words at least!
Let’s make it 5. I hate the fact that he smoke. x_x he will be better without cigars and alcoholic drinks. It hurts me a lot. He’s my bias, and this truth is really heart-breaking. 😥 but i’ll always love him and JYJ. I hope he will stop his bad habit.
but the truth all male friends of mine at his age smoke, drink and have sex cos they are human
LOL @ Zan JYJ
yeah i think more than 75% of male and female (including me, you, JYJers, and our GOD JYJ) smoke, drink and have sex O—-O …. because we all are human …. hehehe
(i mean either smoke, drink or have SEX )
youtube comment are so hilarious .. laughing out loud … the PopCandiesTv must be scratching their head … WHO IS YOOCHUN
@ILUJYJ
well even if we don’t do is just our choice,not because it is prohibited,we are all adults.
That TV will be surely scratching their head,who is yoochun.
@zan Hopefully they don’t do all three at the same time! Sounds dangerous!!! O_O lolol
I guess because of all the anti-smoking laws around here, most people I know who smoke are trying to quit, so it’s actually become a bit odd for me to see someone smoking.
@seobehrin
sis please answer me back this one. I wanted to know for acedemic reason,where is your place,is there a law to quit smoke,does it help.I may write my paper about it.
The worst thing here is mothers smoke when they are pushing kid’s trolley.the kids are getting the smoke,too bad.
@zan I live in the US, and the federal government has put heavy taxes on cigarettes, both to gain money and to discourage smoking. As a result, smoking has become a really really expensive habit, and many people were forced to try and quit for financial reasons alone.
Also, I’m not sure if this is nationwide, but here in Ohio at least, laws have been passed making it illegal to smoke in business, even bars. So smokers have to go outside to get their fix, even in the worst storms and most freezing weather. And even then, they’re not allowed to smoke within so many feet of the doors, so that people may enter and leave without walking through a cloud of smoke. Some places like hospitals even prohibit smoking in their parking lots and require smokers to go all the way across the street.
@seobehrin sis thank u. ok ohio I will research on that. cool people need to do that cos here in London women smoke more than men,their concept is sexy women smoke,they smoke with their child around which irritate me most and even it is prohibited to smoke in bus stop they smoke near bus stop,which I get secondary smoking.I don’t smoke because I am afraid of health risks so I hate when I get secondary smoking.Your place has less smoking which mean healthy air for u sis.
@zan Yes, when it came down to it, they couldn’t talk people out of smoking so the only way to decrease smoking was to make it too costly and inconvenient. Now if someone smokes around children, they get side eyed pretty hard.
LOL 100% agree
서베린 (@seobehrin) you live in Ohio????? I live in Ohio too!!! What a coincidence!! Hi! ^^ And I am so very happy we have these laws. Since second hand smoking is also very dangerous and makes many children and people very sick 😦
@JYJFan Yes! I live about an hour from Cleveland!! How about you? Omg, I’m so excited to hear from another Ohio fan! I hope they come to Cleveland someday. Then you and I can be the ones to bring awesome fanaccounts to JYJ3. ^_^
@JYJFan Oops! I was so excited to hear from another Ohio fan that I forgot to comment on the smoking laws!
I remember when I was a kid, everyone smoked. We had a complete culture of smoking. Then they started the smoking awareness campaigns and they put these laws in place. There was a lot of grumbling, but slowly as more people stopped smoking and less people started smoking to begin with, there was a change in the culture. And once there was no longer a coat of cigarette ash all over everything, people realized how bad it smells when they DO smell it.
It’s pretty amazing how an awareness campaign coupled with laws managed to actually change what people thought was acceptable.
make a 6 with me.. i dislike smoker, thats seriously dangerous for their health..
specially if they’re planning to have a child.. duh..
Me five.
I will proudly say, “me 7.” I am a 29-year old woman, and I have seen people around me destroy themselves with their bad habits. I by no means view him as a god or perfect, but someone I’ve come to care about, even from the other side of the world.
I don’t want to see Yoochun destroy his singing voice, or worsen his asthma to the point that he needs to be on a nasal cannula and carry a bottle of O2 where ever he goes, or get cancer and have to have a tracheostemy or have parts of his face removed. Reality can be very cruel.
Therefore, I very sincerely wish he and Jaejoong would stop smoking, even though it is very difficult. They have strong wills though, and I believe they can do it.
it would be good if he quit,because he has asthma,if he don’t have asthma I won’t say this much.But his personality is not the type who listen,the only way is,he himself think he is harming his voice and health or someone he love will tell him in calm manner.
@Zan: and i really hope our JYJ
boys, immediately get SOMEONE
who really pay attention to their
health, and of course our JYJ
boys will hear all the worries of
that PERSON.. (gf.red )
@Seo: “I don’t want to see
Yoochun destroy his
singing voice, or
worsen his asthma to
the point that he needs
to be on a nasal
cannula and carry a
bottle of O2 where ever
he goes, or get cancer
and have to have a
tracheostemy or have
parts of his face
removed. Reality can
be very cruel.” » I read a news yesterday, a child dies because of smoking habits of his parents .. Passive smokers are more susceptible to the effects of cigarette smoke. therefore I do not like smokers, besides endangering themselves they also harm others .. too bad..
parent smoke with their child around is my ultimate hatred thing.
my point with YC is only he can decide himself,hope my brother won’t regret in his later life.
me too 😥
me six 😦
i hope antis or haters wont take advantage from this video!
jyj hwaiting! i saw his manager
i hope antis or haters wont take advantage from this video!
too late 😦
I’m kinda confused here. This is kinda lol random but I don’t see how antis could make something out of this? What have they done exactly?
I think she means because he’s smoking. I’m not sure.
@Ronnie
Because he smokes, they make a fuss out of it??? LOL Do they live in Heaven where no one smokes, drinks, uses drug, has sex, gumbles and does evil things to others??? Well, if they live there, they wont bother to make useless comments , i guess…
LOL @ those ppl… Yes, I dont do all the above mention ed things except the last one.. Come on, we are human, if we are 100% flawless, i dont think we are human anymore… we will be angels or monks or preists… 🙂
So Let’s just ignore it , ya??? 🙂
@nandar *gasp* You have…*whispers* the s-e-x? Lol, j/k! But seriously, please don’t use drugs. T_T
@ seobehrin sista
*blush blush* the last one that i do is “doing evil things to others”… 😀 If someone back stabs me, I dont like to forgive.. I will do something really evil to that person.. I know i should ignore or forgive.. But i just cant seem to do so…
Way,,,,, girl, i have been single for 5 years , ya know… *proud noona here, chun baby* This 5 years, YC is the only guy who can melt my rock-like heart~~~ 😉 😛
@nandar Oops! Sorry, I misread! I thought you said you did everything on that list *except* doing evil things. I see now!
@JUNO
what have they done?
Everybody knows Chun smokes. So which part of this video will antis use against him? I don’t see anything incriminating here.
everybody knows he smokes though…its an open secret…plus…not that this makes smoking any better…but in SouthKorea especially, its really common for people, especially males, to smoke, so nothing scandalous about this tbh :3
O.K. who is so call antis …. Homin fans … GOD as far as i Know All the DBSK5 boys smoke, except JUNSU, …. so don’t worry Honey …. Korean Man knows two things … Smoke and Soju …. thats their culture … OPPS … running to corner
Its ok.. Dont have to run… I am with u…
It is a culture of Chinese, Japanese n korean that they drink… Since thousands of years ago.. Smoking?? Yes, nowadays it is the culture of the whole world where even women smoke.. What is wrong??? Yes it is not good for health.. But not only smoking and drinking are not good for health… eating some unhealthy food is not good for health also… So no one is as healthy as GOD , i guess… I dont smoke nor drink but i enjoy unhealthy food… 😛 so what i like it!!!!!
@nandar sisi!!! 😀 *bighugs*
Phew, long train of replies …
O.O I’m finding the right place to butt-in and THIS:
“I dont smoke nor drink but i enjoy unhealthy food..so what, I like it!!!”
ROFLMAO..so true..me too!!
We all know unhealthy food are not good for us, but we still can’t resist..afterall, we are just human, righto?
So, same to YC-ssi..I’m sure he knows better than anybody here..smoking is not good for him..
but this is his choice..so WHAT?
Also, in my book..a person being a smoker doesn’t automatically turn him into a devil and vice versa..
a non-smoker is not necessarily an angel!
I know many non-smokers would like to believe so, thinking they are better persons, and what not..
but no..that’s not how it works! Sorry.
ps: on a side note, of course, I hope he’ll quit smoking for his own good..I want my YC to be a healthy boy, hihi^^..
but hey, it’s his life, let him decide..:)
oh my twinie bubbly *hugs and kisses*
Dont know why nowadays we dont see each other on JYJ3… I mean when i reply ur comments , u r no longer on the blog.. T_T
“book..a person being a smoker doesn’t automatically turn him into a devil and vice versa..
a non-smoker is not necessarily an angel!” ~~ u got it right honey.. Guess what those who express to be angels are more evil…
“Ps: on a side note, of course, I hope he’ll quit smoking for his own good..I want my YC to be a healthy boy, hihi^^..
but hey, it’s his life, let him decide..:)” ~~ that should be the way.. sure we want them to be healthy.. But no one is perfect.. So let him decide who he wants to be and what he wants to do.. 🙂
You 2 lovely chunsas @nandar and @bubbly Hi-Five!
Well, I don’t smoke nor drink either. And I eat some unhealthy food but come with a price, like food that is too spicy, too fried will cause me sick – bad sore throat, everything must be in moderation. I cannot inhale people’s smoking too cos’ I cannot breath in that and I don’t or hardly drink alcohols, it will cause me a terrible headache. I have to live my allergies and intolerance to certain food too 😦
Frankly speaking, it’s best to cut down on smoking and drinking especially Yuchun and asthma is no joke.
whos ashley Tisdale? hehe
Disney star
high school musical.
really? well i feel a little old not knowing this. i dd not watch high school musical or any tv disney shows.
seriously, i honestly don’t know her or this gabe guy either .. guess am really that detached to the hollywood world ..
chunnie is all that matters .. 🙂
of course!!!
omg! i am dying of curiosity to know why he was there! any special reason or just chillin’?
he is probably on vacations?
although he is with his manager…
he was with the guy that directed their american shows. jeri slaughter or something?
im guessing he invited him
(the guy that passed him the cigarette)
…. this is so random….
And he was talking to one of the guys who was with Ashley Tisdale. It seems like he’s invited to the party. This is crazy! Is Yoochunie going Hollywood now???
that would be awesome if he breaks into Hollywood!
Yoochun, you such a bad boy.
555++ yes, he is but like this his image ^^
555+++ yes, he is but like this his image. ^^
LOLOMG Chun got caught by paparazzi even when they didn’t want to capture him xD HAHAHA this is too funny, God bless the ninja who found this video and saw Chun lol
I’m also wondering what the heck he’s doing in LA…and why he’s with his manager everywhere, can’t he travel by himself? O.o
is he still here? shoot, I want to find him here in LA!
Yuchun can’t go anywhere unprotected. Have you seen the size of his manager? He knows Judo and doubles as a bodyguard. Actually, he triples as a manager, bodyguard and friend. Who wants to go somewhere alone anyway?
Yuchun said in his Thailand fan meeting that he likes to go to clubs. No big reason to go, he just likes it. And this club is one that celebrities go to, so he doesn’t have to worry about fan girls bothering him.
I bet this photographer was super ninja. Nobody saw the camera.
Traveling alone sounds boring. Nothing like saying, “Hey, did you…” and turning to the side, but there’s no one there.
He can’t go out to any country without at least some protection
@gigi baby
I have decided to learn Karate!!!! I want to protect him!!! 😀
Chuna, get this noona as ur Bodyguard~~ (reminds me of Spy Myul Woo) 😛
this so random
Lol i can already see the headlines in AKP – Jyj s Park Yoochun spotted smoking in Beverly hills !
Ahhh…now I see….well even so its his life not theirs. We all know that AKP and the morons who hang out there don’t give a shit about his health or any “bad message” he might be sending to fans for having a smoke. They just wanna start shit like always so if that is the best they can do let them. Poor souls.
Lol its posted in akp already
Agree. To make an issue out of chunnie smoking would be so narrow-minded .. smoking or non-smoking does not make you the person you are. Everyone is responsible for their own well-being.
@teya
“Tom make an issue out of chunnie smoking would be so narrow-minded” that would akp all the way…
I completely agree. Yoochun is a grown man people, let him live his life. Tons of people smoke, good or bad, it’s THEIR life. Who are we to judge?
Sorry about that extra ‘m’ in there. It’s supposed to be “To make…” Whoever is Tom, please don’t get upset with me.
like this “oppa no Iiked him in SKKS” what is that? liking or disliking an artist concern with smoking?
Smoking is addictive and destructive to one’s health, so some people consider it no different than using any other drug.
yes, SMOKING health promotion is the hardest thing to do,there are people who have to cut their legs and arms because of smoking but they smoked till the end even after all 4 limbs lost.How can we tell him from fat apart to stop. He and his life. But liking or disliking an artist due to smoking is a little bit delicate for me.I hate drinking.I cannot stand smokes but is my life,my choice.All that I can wish is he will take care of himself.
@zan Young people seem to be under the impression that these things only happen rarely. But they really happen all the time. How many people have I seen in their 40’s and 50’s, stuck in wheelchairs and suffering from emphysema or COPD, and they all say the same thing. “I started smoking when I was 15 years old…”
Perhaps I see it more because I live in a poor area, but that’s where these people end up after their health declines. Many of these people were successful in their youth. They were engineers, lawyers, they owned businesses. But medical bills will drain your bank accounts very quickly.
If you live in a wealthier area, and shop at fancier places than Wal-Mart, you don’t see how many of these people there truly are. They drop out of your income bracket and out of your sight.
@seobehrin sis my heat hurt when I see a middle school kid smoking with expression”I am doing coolest thing on earth” but smoking is really additive people cannot cut it. Even doctors,nurses,health promoter themselves cannot quit smoking although they are telling others to stop.Nearly half of my class go out to smoke in break because of stress,I go out for fresh air and is filled with smoke already,I hate passive smoking.Although I feel like I want to try when I got stress but I restrain myself for health reason and I hate the taste of it.I will smoke when it come vapor electronic ciger with minty smell.
@Zan: dear.. u better not try to start smoking, one of my BF start smoking bcause she had a stress during her break up time.. and it was about 5 years ago .. until this day she is still smoking. so i beg u.. please don’t u ever dare. to bad for ur health and ur money..
@putrihs
i will avoid, I can’t breath well near the smokes
@putrihs
U made me confused LOL 😀 “One of ur BF”??? BF means “boyfriend” or “best friend”?? I was taking it as “boyfriend” and soon read “she” and “her break up”.. 😀 LOL poor me~~~ 😛
@Zan @Putrihs
It is true that driniking and smoking is addictive but it depends on individual as well.. Believe it or not.. I tried both… 😀 I tried smoking when i was like 10+ years old (very very young) and after the first try, i cough like hell and when u smoke, u have the taste of somke in ur mouth.. It was too awful for me.. that was the first and the last time i put a cigarette in my mouth.. May be i was too young to addict it or my family is too strict to do those… But even when i left my family for my study in abroad, i do not smoke and i know that i dont like the taste.. 🙂
When i was in my early 20s (like 21, 22) i started to drink.. I start to drink wine to get a good sleep (just to replace sleeping pills) then i started to drink… If i am with my friends who drink, i will drink (a few glasses).. But now i dont drink anymore.. @Zan should know very well that drinking and smoking for girls (ah no no.. even for guys) are must-not-do things in our country… Thats why i think it depends on individual wherether that person like to do it or do it cuz of some reason… If u like smoking and drinking, it is very addictive… U do it just for fun or for some other reason but u dont enjoy doing it, u can stop anytime u want… Like me, i totally stopped drinking… Those ppl who say they cant do but they want to do, are just bullshitting!!! 😀
@nandar: BF= Best Friend. sorry.. 🙂
“Those
ppl
who
say
they
cant
do
but
they
want
to
do.” » this! too many people around me who say things like this, until I felt it was just nice words just to please others.. >___< thank God u can Quit.. 🙂
@nandar & @putrihs I don’t know about alcohol, but for smoking, it takes more than one cigarette to become addicted. You can smoke about a pack over time and think you have it under control. You don’t *need* to smoke. But by the time you finish that first pack, you’ll find yourself craving them.
People who are quitting smoking, or at least trying, go through very real withdrawal symptoms that are certainly not pleasant, and definitely not BS.
@seorehin
oh yes.. smoking n drinking will give u severe withdrawal syndrome if u quit after gettinh addicted to it..
But there r stilppl who cam make it happen, right?? I might b wrong.. But i beliee tat one can achieve e goal so long as he has e strong determination nn put in hard work.. 😉
by the way I see it on the first video, yoochun is trying to talk and confront with the man who wearing the hat but it looked like that man just dont want to listen to him. i guess
YooChun talked to this person.. and that person talked to ashley tisdale.. & do YC & AT they knew each other? ashley tisdale is a singer am i rite? maybe JYJ wanna make an international album again? and make a coloboration with ashley tisdale? who knows? xDdo YC
no no no no not with ashley she is teen star
I second, god please no! They are so above and beyond her!!
She’s a teen star but jyj and her are the same age?
noooo pleaseee >< XD
no..no not ashley tisdale XD shes..honestly…no…disney stars are another (lower) level then hollywood stars etc…they are not the “same” …
Not with Ashley please don’t be her. She’s disney singer and JYJ much better without her
Someone on allkp said the guy in the black cap is Jerry Slaughter. Maybe he went there to meet him.
there’s Jeri Slaughter too. the director/choreographer for some of JYJ’s previous concerts.
If paparazzi find out he’s a big celebrity in Korea then he better watch out for those idiots, because when they see money they go for it! Nice he is hanging with the in crowed in Hollywood!
Does it really matters if antis start to say bad things about Chunnie after watching this vid?
Honestly, their opinions do not matter.
For they are already antis who will hate anyway.
Let’s just not get too uptight about it.
As the saying goes,
“Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don’t Matter and Those Who Matter Don’t Mind.”
And I think, Chunnie is a big boy now and he knows what he’s doing.
Smoking is bad, yes. But it’s his choice and I’m not gonna like him lesser because of this.
@Shadow
Babe, I have to agree and to nod at your comment. That’s right. He’s a grown up man, he knows waht to do. The only thing I would like to say to him is “Chun, I really like you as a person and as an artist and I want to have you by my side forever. Please take care” 🙂
J2, sweetie, what are you doing out of bed at this hour??? LOL, I’m just kidding my dear, don’t be mad at me. It’s just that I was suprised when I saw you posting comments at this hour. Greetings my lovely ninja 😀
haha^^ yeah, at this unearthly hour for me!
Nice to ‘see’ ya.. haha
Just wanna clarify, I’m not supporting him smoking. (I dont like it either and hope he stops too.)
I think he knows it’s unhealthy and esp when he’s a history of asthma.
But as I mentioned, he’s a grown man now and he makes his own choice.
¡AHHHH! ¡Yoochunnie, you were talking to Ashley Tisdale!!! This is really amazing. In the first video, the first person I noticed in the left, Chun’s back, impossible to skip him. By his side his ahem…… yuck manager? Well, although he’s not a nice man, I do appreciate his job protecting the boys 🙂 ¿Does he was with Jerry Slaughter? That’s not a rare thing, in fact I’m almost sure he traveled to LA to talk to him about the dancers for the LAmerican concerts. The only thing I am thinking now; do Chun and his manager left the place with Ashley Tisdale and Gabe Saporta or my eyes cheated on me???????
What’s wrong with his manager? He is nasty to fans trying to get close to Yuchun, but he does a good job of protecting him, and he loves Yuchun with all his heart. I always appreciate that Yuchun has him by his side.
@Lisa
Girl, you seriously need a pair of glasses. This is what I wrote:
“By his side his ahem…… yuck manager? Well, although he’s not a nice man, I do appreciate his job protecting the boys 🙂 ”
Sorry if the way I commented offended you, but I think it’s very clear that I’m not talking badly about him.
I’m curious now too why you say ‘yuck’ and ‘not nice man.’ Are there stories behind this? All I know of him is the little clip of him playing the newspaper folding game with YC.
@서베린 (@seobehrin)
Hi dear. According to several fans who have had “close encounters” with the boys in the streets, their managers use to be a little rude, disagreeable and even aggresive with the fans who approach to them to ask for autographs, pics or else, specially if they are more than three. I’m not blaming the managers, it’s their job to protect the boys but they could be at least a little polite to move away the fans.
@shu I think if they are polite, fans will not give up easily, so they must be firm and intimidating about it. That’s how we have to speak to the messed up people around here that approach us asking for money.
@all the above posts talking about managers
I think it is not only JYJ’s managers or SK artists’ managers or Hollywood artists’ managers… I think all the managers are the same i guess.. They ahve to protect and cut the hanging fans so that the artists can move to the destination, right?? I mean, Let’s say, they are on the way to saloon, there is one fan spotted the artist, then ask for the signature, the artist gives him/her… Then the other crowd noticed him too and tried to get the signature.. If the artist is giving it to everyone from the crowd, they cant proceed to saloon.. They have a show and they got to go to the show after the went to saloon… Imagine the story like that.. 😀 of cuz the artists will never say no~ So the managers has to come in to be the bad guy, right?? I think this is part of their job also…. 🙂 thats why all the managers are the same…
agreed!
@shadow you nailed it, that’s what i want to say. He is old enough to make his choices and decide for himself. I personally hate the smell of cigars but i don’t condemnd people who smoke. It don’t make them less a man if they smoke. And at least he is honest about it.
what is this ninja up to,
comment flow on Youtube is fearsome. YC u and attention is biggest lovers,u avoid attention but U always get biggest attention
OMG! :O how? What? What is he doing there? I thoght he was in SA!
There’s like a man hug, I don’t know what it’s called when guys do that half hug, shoulder thing to greet each other at around 128 between yoochun and gabe.
Even i hate that Yoochun is smoking in this video, I am happy because he’s there with Gabe and Ashley ! Wow Is he that famous aroung hollywood celebrities? I can’t believe it ! That’s our man ! JYJ 😀
for truth they did not care about him,he is there for black guy
agree ,am i the only one who think jyj should stay in asia ?
i live in europe so iam not so intrested in this hollywood thing,people in asia have other opinions about west
like if you do something in us than you really have achieved something it doesnt matter what the result are
look wondergirls,now snsd and Rain after 2 films
i want jyj to stay in asia he really looks out of place
sorry but this is what i feel
Why should they limit themselves? Are you saying he looks out of place just because he’s Asian? Because if you are, then that’s really racist. (<_< )
I want them to find success in the US because it's a large and lucrative market, and because I live in the US so would love more concerts here.
“i want jyj to stay in asia he really looks out of place”..ummm no…
But I agree with u for different reasons….business wise, i think it would be smarter if they forget about the US and focus on the European/SouthAmerican/asian markets…truth be told the US isnt really receptive to anything that isnt in english or from someone who is not white/american…….plus the US music industry is a lot harder to crack since its big/really competitive, everyone wants 2 make it here blablah…..i think they would totally find some success faster in European markets for instance, since they are used to listening to music in another language, also I notice the songs that get popular in many European countries differ compared 2 what gets popular in the US a lot of times,they have different tastes, and I think JYJ could definitely find their niche in that market…..and if they so wish….that seems like a faster gateway to making it in the US
No. JYJ need to expand their target. Because Asian commonly think when a singer, particularly idols, reached 30 years old they will not be count as young again but that totally different in USA and Europe.
@palomita I agree, the US market is a tough nut to crack. The mainstream can be very narrow minded. Asian accents are considered unsexy, and a quick YouTube search of them would yield tons of fodder for jokes. (skinship, makeup, Balloons MV, Dangerous Love, etc.) People here are not kind. The people here who like them are either Asian themselves, or people who are less mainstream, and therefore widely scattered, geographically.
If they had huge success in Asia, Europe, and South America, only then would the US mainstream be more likely to give them a chance.
@buff I noticed that. JYJ, Big Bang, SuJu, BoA, TVXQ…that crop seems to be the oldest in the idol industry while everyone else is very very young. The fans in Asia also seem to expect an uninterrupted stream of albums, concerts, and TV appearances from them.
In the US, pop singers sing well past their 40’s, and only release an album every few years. No one forgets about them! Are Asian fans’ memories so short? Also, if an artist makes too many TV appearances here, we say they’re overexposed and people get sick of seeing them. It’s a completely different mentality!
yuchun-ah, why are you still smoking ?? 😦 smoking is not good for singers !! 😦 I dont want him to lose his beautiful voice…now this makes me wonder is jaejoong still smoking too? I hope he stopped since it can seriously damage his voice.
smoking is not a sin, girls
i agree…we all know Yoochun and Jae smoke, so relax, is not good for them, but they are adults and can do whatever they want…
im agree, i mean, cmon, a lot of people smokes, so whats the problem? i know that its not healthy but they are grown men….if they like to smoke, its their decision…
Smoking damages the voice. Since they are singers, and we are fans of their voices, it’s not just us having idle opinions on something that doesn’t concern us.
You’re right, I’m not pro-smoking but comments like “YC, please stop smoking….., why is he smoking….and so on” are getting boring. YC is 26 yrs. old, I believe he’s a responsible person, he definitely is aware what’s good or bad for him and he knows his limits. Cigarettes now are classified as lights, mild, regular and strong, and there’s even dummy cigs, nobody of us here can tell what he’s using. If he sings to his cigs ” I’d rather had bad time with you, than a good time with something else”, there’s nothing we can do.
I had to hold in my screams because Yoochun and Gabe Saporta had a bro hug and I can’t even…Gabe is awesome and so is Yoochun. It’s like two of my greatest music loves colliding with each other.
this video is actually funny, it’s supposed to be all about ashley and gabe, but most of the comments are about yoochun xp
secondly, it hurts to see him smoking, because we all know it’s not good for his health (he even has astma) and for his voice.
i’ve just looked for the article in Allkpop and people there are more talking about him smoking (a lot didn’t even know) than about the fact he was spotted with famous hollywood-people
and yeah, it’s a fact, smoking is no sin, it’s probably from all the stress he had to go trough and if your addicted, well, you are, you can’t stop in 1-2-3 (i know what i’m talking about) AND he’s an adult so he knows what he’s doing, it’s his life
chunface stays chunface, smoking OR NOT
(this will probably be my longest comment yet (sorry if it’s completely boring xp))
Mmm aha I see now. Chunnie is with JERI SLAUGHTER and PAUL MORENTE the directors/choreographers of JYJs US tour. Paul is the one yoochun is talking with most of the time. Cool how they’re still in contact! Chunnie might had business with them or called them up in LA. Plus I know Paul and jeri are really close with Ashley tisdale so prolly met through them a bit. Good socialization skills yoochun!
How do I know this? I still follow jeri and Paul on twitter and they said they hung with Ashley haha. ^^;;
yeey .. thanks for shedding some light 🙂
btw, does yuchun’s family still has a place in the US? He’s probably having some vacation time where he thought he won’t be noticed that much (guess that was just wishful thinking for chunnie as I read the fan account posted earlier.:)
Hmm I’m not so sure if they have a place in LA! They lived in Virginia but Chunnie is so secretive about many things so you never know ^^
maybe he is meeting them for the south american tour?
tough I really hated those choreographies …too slutty…I hope they wont do the same in here, Iwant to see JYJ. not a lot of girls all over them LOL
LOL i was thinking the same! Or just a plain Jane vacation 🙂 haha i didn’t mind the choreography, but it was under the direction of our boys anywho. They called the shots, and they wanted a sexier performance to suit the US audience, and oh boy did they do it justice x) but I was also a bit jealous of the back up dancers.
Don’t count me on this, but I think it was Paul or jeri, or collab, where they choreographers many of their catchiest English songs like empty be the one and ayyy girl.
I really don’t understand your comment. Their choreography wasn’t slutty by any stretch of the imagination. And Yoochun is famous for doing sexy routines no matter which group he is dancing with. I went to the LA concert last summer and thought it was fun. I think fans are over-reacting and simply don’t want any girls near the boys period.
I didnt like the dances, I watched the Seoul concerte last week with my friends and none of tus liked it…we all agreed in that some of the dances didnt match the song…I like sexy dances, but these I didnt like them, that’s all
I liked european dancer better
I think it wasn’t so much the choreography as the dancers’ costumes. You could practically see butt cheek hanging out the bottom!
Thank you @Ali..for information….LOL the boy take care social -business trip ^______^
good job!!!!
OMG!!! Looking at akp’s comments and there is sum1 is getting hysterical there!!! hahaha funny!!
Oh well! that’s is our yoochun alryt..
LMAOOOO this made my morning tbh XDDD
does yoochun father still lives in the US?
I have always wondered about this too. Always see pics of his mom but nothing much on his dad. Does anyone know If Yoochun’s dad is still in th US?
I’m curious about that one too. Some fans said he still live in US
I think he lives in Korea….because remember Yoochun talked about how his father was really sick in that award show and would probably be crying watching him win that award. I don’t think they could have that kind of connection if his father lived in America.
why isn’t anyone seeing he put a cigarette in his mouth, sick, i’ve been a devoted fan for years but this is just shocking. why smoke yoochun and be around those weidos? i guess he’s like them
If you’ve been a fan for years
You do realise everyone in TVXQ except Junsu smokes?
Why are they weirdoes
Its something a lot of males do
Why is a grown mans life choices shocking to you?
Everybody have seen it, calm down. You don’t need to live with him, right? Then what problem do you have with him smoking? He and Jaejoong smoked from their early childhood, he won’t stop just because fans don’t like it. Actually except Junsu all four of them smoke. In Korea or Japan people don’t make such a fuss about drinking or smoking, it’s a form of social bonding there. I don’t get why fans want to force Western standards on two Eastern guys? Jeez…
don’t get why fans want to force Western standards on two Eastern guys? Jeez…
i think this part is a bit wrong. smoke is bad for health to everyone worldwide, there is no such things as western standard or not when it comes to smoking.
So what if Jae and YC smoking? That’s their chose. We can’t force what we want to him, why? Because that’s their own lifes. They are young men already, they can have their own life. End it there.
I know that smoking is bad for health. By Western standards I meant we have all these laws protecting the non-smokers, the media going on full blast about cancer and such, generally people observing smoking something very bad you need to avoid what ever it takes. That’s our way of thinking. Eastern people see this matter differently, for them smoking is a totally accepted thing, just like drinking. If you see a man lying on the pavement out cold or vomitting, you think it’s discusting and he shouldn’t have do that to himself. If a Japanese or Korean man do this, even strangers help them to get home or get somewhere they can sleep it off, because they know it’s required of those men to go drinking with their colleagues after work, it’s an accepted way of bonding and socialising between people. Two different opinion and view of the same thing. You can’t ask Yoochun to change his way of thinking (the Eastern one) just because Western people see this differently than him.
Being a fan doesn’t mean you have some magical say over how this GROWN MAN lives his life. I even question your intentions because I’ve seen your past comments here and they aren’t so nice. Are your Yunho and Changmin weirdos too then cause they smoke as well. Drink too. Heck next thing you know they’ll be dancing with women and making babes. THE SCANDAL OF IT ALL!!!!!
Lol. If you are his fans for years, you should know that all DB5K members (exept Junsu) are smoking. I see no big deal in there, he is a normal guy. He smoking, so what? He is 25 years old anyway.
I agree with you. Why is chunnie’s smoking such a big issue? I dunno if this is accurate but a large number of men in Japan and Korea smoke because it’s a stress reliever and partly because of the cold. I don’t smoke and I don’t advocate smoking but I won’t judge someone just because he or she smokes. I’m gonna panic if I see chunnie lighting another cigarette with the one cigarette he’s still puffing, that would make him a chain smoker already, but then again it’s still his life. The way I see it, chunnie is an adult, smoking is probably some guilty pleasure but not something he lives for.
Did you just wake up from a cave? You seem to be the weird one here.
People who love him and same His fans are concerned for it. For it health. . Because the % of the persons that had disgusted, of a cancer of the lungs is very high in their countries and falls namely of the smoke. I for this think that so critically they interact for the issue of smoking.
@Hanna
LOL @ Hanna and your contradictory comment.. U have been a “fan” for years??
A fan NEVER judge or criticize hsi/her idol or someone who he/she admires based on the GROUNDLESS USELESS STUFFS!!!!
@Hanna I am “shock” by your reply. Really? You are a devoted fan? Oh really~~ Unfortunately the readers here are not 6years old. We can see you are lying~~ ಠ_ಠ
sorry too say this …are you TROLL ..peace 😛
@Hanna: Are u try to Insult Park Yoochun? yaaa!
@Hanna
Peace all..
forgive @Hanna..she forgot to bring her brain along with her this time round, that’s all!
..or maybe..she didn’t even have one to start with!
A sick and brainless @Hanna, pity 😦 *shakeshead*
seriously! hahaha this is amusing =) Yoochun ❤ always looking good
(facepalms at many of the comments here) Yoochun is a grown-ass MAN. Korea has LOADS of virginal boy-bands for those who want that…Teen Top, Boyfriend…the upcoming EXO ~ ~ and many more will be melted, poured into casts and placed on a shelf for purchase by the idol factories in the future.
Yoochun is going to smoke, drink and get-his-groove on….because he’s GROWN. (sigh)
THIS. He’s a grown man and this is not new information. He’s not shoving it in people’s faces, he’s smoking, drinking, and enjoying himself on his own time, around his schedule of putting at fantastic material for us.
“his own time” <– I think this should be in caps and bolded or something. Is he expected to conform to people's images/ expectations of him 24/7? It's not even a secret that he's a smoker, why does this issue have to come up each and every time? Yeah, it's bad for him (and everyone else in the world, hello, not just oppa) but he's a grown man who clearly knows the consequences of bad habits. Harping on him/ being disappointed etc is not gonna help any. Giving up a vice is a personal choice because it depends on your own willpower.
Girls should read @sally_b, @atalentea and @iraa comments !
this one : ” Is he expected to conform to people’s images/ expectations of him 24/7?”
GROWN MAN….OWN TIME…..PERSONAL CHOICE
I find a smoker hot LOL no biggie. Even more so, a smoker Chun is a major hottie smoker. LOL
people need to stop with the whining coz its annoying and Chun is not a freaking 12 years old in his middle school uniform got caught on camera smoking.
That’s Yuchun…you either love him or hate him.If you are a true fan,you take him for what he is. When he’s ready to quit smoking, he’ll do it on his own.
LOL everyone in akp busy talking about yoochun smoking….but the main point is what is yoochun doing there? i’m really curious. first we thought he is going sa for the concert related stuff now he is spotted in hollywood. i wonder whether its for work or leisure
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we should be spazzzing about yoochun hanging out with hollywood stars and questioning the whys
i hope we will have a clear picture soOn on why yoochun is doing in US
some comment just…….Grow up……Chunnie, he is a men now, that his choice…smoking is not s good thing for him but not a bad thing for pps criticize him…That personal choice ….like i choice don’t like tomato even i know it good for my health…I like to to drink couple of bottle wine to make my meal more tastes as long i know i can control myself…it mean pps can justice me?? ..cmom…..They are not the boys in the crystal ball any more ……please look at the talent music and the way they handle their life like the men…not just how their eat, sleep, drink ..like take care baby……I only see in this vids are the boys they foot other step in to the bigger world they used to see!!!!!
LOL…I mean ” couple of beer or ” couple class of wine” ..ha!!
probably those comments come from younger girls, I understand them, they see the guys like some kind of gods, perfect and all that…but they are not…they are human, grown ups…so they will have bad habits like smoking or get drunk, which i dont see as a bad thing, I also do both from time to time with my friends, why they cant?…many people are taking too serious something that is just so common…
oh I forgot to add that we should be more worried about SOPA instead of Yoochun smoking…
Yoochun is very popular lately! Woot!!! I wonder what he was doing there with his manager. Could they be arranging something for us?
I believe there’s something very exciting for us. YC/JYJ are making ninja moves !
Some comments need grow up! We are talking about 25 years old young man, if he chose smoking. So what? It’s his own chose. He is a normal guy and I think everyone in here know that Yooochun n Jaejoong are smoking.
Btw, what the hell this ninja doing over there????
” Btw, what the hell this ninja doing over there????”
That is supposed to be the main concern, that we should be talking and excited about.
Not that smoking thing!
I smell new album is coming soon xD
But please, not with Ashley. Please don’t be her.
LOL
Yes @Kris and @gigi
“What is YC doing there?” should be a major topic instead of “Smoking is not good or so”….
PLS ppl, THE MAIN CONCERN HERE IS “WHAT IS HE DOING THERE??”
@kris, @gigi, @nandar: i just realize about that.. What is Park Yoochun doing in LA?? @gigi p.a you should know about this!! tell us the truth..
I will say I did not know YC or JJ smoked. From a health stand point, I would perfer for YC to not smoke, especially since he has asthma. Smoking will effect your singing voice in the long run and his asthma. Now as far as himdrinking I do not have a problem with that as long as they do not turn into an alcholic and hurt anyone why drinking. But even saying all of this I do feel he is a grown man and can live his life the way he want. I just hope that he takes care of himself. Knowing that YC smokes is not going to stop me from loving him. After watching the video I really cannot see what is thier to report on regarding anyone who was in the video. Really what could the hatiers get from this video to say bad about YC. It is not like he is being caught smoking crack, its a cigarette. Now the cegarette is not good for him but its not crack, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So really what news is there to report on him.
This. I don’t understand why everyone is jumping down others throats JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT YOOCHUN’S HEALTH.
As a fan, we feel that it is our responsibility to take care of the boys….BUT we know that our opinions will not change them. They are grown men and can make their own decisions…..and have to live with those decisions like the rest of us.
Still it is not okay to smoke and destroy your life. Every time we see a picture or a fan account of the boys smoking….the same old stuff happens. Some fans worry and post that they shouldn’t smoke. Some fans attack those fans by saying that they are old enough to make this decision for themselves, and it is ‘normal’. I don’t understand why caring for someone you like and posting your feelings deserves such harsh criticism.
This is what I am reading:
Fan 1: “Oppa you shouldn’t smoke it is bad for your health and you have asthma.”
Fan 2: “Are you stupid? They are ‘grown’ men and can make their decisions for themselves. And anyways it is ‘normal’ for Asians to smoke.”–>Like the fact we are criticizing their actions make us a bad fan…or makes us want to leave the fandom. No we do not see things in a ‘crystal ball’. And NO just because we are a fan of X Y Z person does it mean that we have to like every SINGLE aspect of them and treat them like ‘gods’ and cannot criticize.
In the case of the first fan I read worry in their post for their bias’ health….and a desire to see them live a long healthy life. In the other fans opinion I see excuses.
1. At the end of the day….smoking is not okay and not ‘normal’. If you have ever thought about it the only reason smoking is not banned like drugs is because the elite 1% rich also partake of this activity. It doesn’t make sense that drugs that have less health effects on your body are banned while smoking destroys your life and passes bad genes onto future generations too isn’t banned. I think smoking should be banned period. I would much rather see JYJ do healthy drugs that have little affect on their health then see them smoke. But, in the end it is not something that I or you can change. They are their own people.
2. The reason poorer countries have larger smoking populations is not because of ‘culture’. It is because the American markets who are the majority producers of these cigarettes needed to find a larger market for these unhealthy products, because America started restricting them. So when a country that has a higher educated mass starts getting taught the cons of something X company sells…..what did they do……they went to countries with uneducated masses…….and sold the products for cheaper. The people who smoke irregardless of culture……cannot be said to be smart. That is why I admire Junsu because he can stand up for himself and say no in a culture that is not smart and has many unhealthy practices (I am not being racist here or targeting Korea…..most of Asia is like this).
3. To those who condone smoking, I hope you understand that our fandom life will be short…….because eventually their voices will start deteriorating and their health will get worse…….and they WILL die at an earlier age. I don’t know if this makes me a bad fan………but the reason I love JYJ is because of their singing…..which is what they sell………once JY’s voices start deteriorating I don’t know if I am going to be a fan anymore. I don’t believe in the concept of ‘but oppa is so good and works so hard so let’s throw pity money at him’……..BUT I will definitely stay for the acting component.
4. I haven’t posted is a long time….but the reason for my rant is that by saying that it is normal for Asian’s to smoke and by saying that it is okay because they are grown men etc. you are indirectly sending messages to people who are JYJ fans and who have not yet started to smoke but have thought about it (ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ASIAN) that is that it is okay.
(In the end…..I still love JYJ. But I hate smoking. AKTF: In other words always keep your principles and beliefs. No person should have to change their opinion only because the others say you are wrong.)
Thank you, that was nicely put.
“That is why I admire Junsu because he can stand up for himself and say no in a culture that is not smart and has many unhealthy practices” <333
yap everybody can have their own opinion.
If I am someone close to him,I can have a nice chat about smoking,persuade him to smoking cessation clinic and etc.
but he is an artist and that is so far apart from me.What can I do.Wish he take care of himself.
@LoveUnchanged: “I have to
cut him off of
my fav guys
list because
he
smokes” » believe me, i would not say something like this.. :p
I don’t think you’ve read every comment yet. There are those who are calling him “sick” and a “weirdo” and saying stuff like, “I have to cut him off of my fav guys list because he smokes” (allkpop), etc. When such comments comes out that’s when we defend Chun and tell these “fans” to shove it! I mean you can care about a person, just realize you do not own them. Plus if you drink alcohol on a regular basis (getting drunk on fridays) or you’re an occational smoker or you eat junk food excessively, then you have no right to critisize his choice of lifestyle.
Also, fans sometimes forget that these stars are humans with brains and a family who cares. Do you for a moment, think that
(a) He does not know that smoking is bad for his health (DB5K has done no smoking campaign before)? Or do you think that he does not care about his own health? There must be a bigger reason for him to smoke.
(b) his mom does not care for him as much as fans do? That his mom would not advice him to stop if the risk outweighs the benefits? There must be a good reason why he smokes.
(c) SME would not have stopped all four boys from smoking if he thought it would ruin their career as singers? Apparently there’s a bigger reason why the boys still smoke despite the risks.
I for instance think that with all that singing (the screaming and the numerous concerts), they are more likely to scrape their voice and throat raw, till it bleeds. Did you guys never hear the story of Min trying to wipe his nosebleed with his mike during a concert, or the story of him spiting blood even though the doctor said he was very healthy? They are more likely to get throat cancer from this continuous abuse of the throat than from smoking. Is smoking bad? YES! Do the boys know its bad? You bet! They did a compaign for it afterall. So if Chun, with asthma and a singing career is still smoking, then I believe there is a huge reason for it. So after people express their concern for his health, they should cease there. The boys have a brain.
I believe it’s overdramatic to say that there must be some good reason, some bigger reason, some huge reason why he smokes. People smoke because they like it, because they think it looks attractive, because the people around them do, because of stress, or because they are too addicted to quit. What deeper reason could there be? Does someone have a gun to his head? Was it someone’s dying wish that he never quit? Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it.
So,
a) Many people care about their own health in theory, but not in practice.
b) If Korea has a smoker culture, his mom might not think anything of it.
c) Smoking takes years for the bad effects to really show. SM hardly cared about the longevity of their careers or their future health.
“They are more likely to get throat cancer from this continuous abuse of the throat than from smoking.”
You say this as if cancer was rare. It’s not. It’s really, really not.
The truth is, fans wishing he’s quit annoys people after a while. That doesn’t mean people need to make up excuses of why Yoochun *should* smoke.
BTW, I didn’t read the AKP comments. They sound really immature though, calling him names about it. I only care about people’s opinions here, because we don’t have to agree on everything to be friends. ^_^
He still smokes because he is addicted. Nicotine is hard to quit and no amount of “knowing” will fix it overnight.
He needs a strong resolve and he also needs help (not judgmental critiques and reiterating what he already knows) from nagging fans. He needs his family and friends. It doesn’t seem like he wants to quit though cause I’m sure that Junsu has offered many times.
At the end of the day comments on the internet from fans or non-fans are a moot point. If a fan expresses concern and another fan jumps on it that won’t affect Yoochun. Why should it? This is a matter of expression between fans. Unless fans come up with an attention grabbing manner of addressing their concerns to Yoochun he isn’t likely to want to read a long list of “Oppa please don’t smoke. Its bad for your health” no matter how nicely the fans say it.
He’ll just nod and agree its bad but he won’t do anything. Likewise saying things like, “I’m disgusted by this.” or “I can’t believe you smoke. I’m so disappointed” will just anger him and alienate him from the internet. He is already the most reclusive member of JYJ and he hides his smoking and fans know its an open-secret.
His smoking and drinking (Jaejoong’s too) is something that has to be approached with patience, grace and understanding. To be frank it would have to be a person he knows or a professional. Likely both.
Also the whole “culture” thing. Yes many men (and women too) do social drinking and smoking. Those are friends/colleagues they smoke/drink with and so they have a latch to continue their behavior but not everyone smokes and drinks and there is no insane pressure to do so. Junsu is a fine example. He has it easier because its far better for him to not fall into that when he clearly sees what happens rather than having to go through the process of quitting like Yoochun and Jaejoong.
@Seobehrin
I think its ridiculous of you and anyone else to think that you know the reason why he smokes. As hard as it may sound, seeing him on camera does not mean you know even half of his life-story. Stop coming up with the reason why he smokes. And stop looking down on him based on those ‘ridiculous’ reasons you come up with.
Peace-Out!
@loveunchanged I’d like to know exactly where I wrote ANYTHING looking down on him for smoking. I never claimed to know his life story, or to know his exact reason for smoking. So unless you can quote exactly where I said ANY of that, stop putting words in my mouth.
My point was that EVERYONE smokes for the same reasons, and that YOU saying there was a deeper reason for smoking is what is ridiculous. I’d like to hear what you think these ‘good’ ‘bigger’ ‘huge’ reasons for smoking could possibly be, because if you can’t even come up with ONE plausible possibility, then your entire argument is pointless.
Yuchun…our social butterfly.
I love the ninja just suddenly popped out in random video xD
He’s been ninja and suddenly appear in Ashley Tisdale video kekekeke. So random.
@gigi
ninja got busted big time
LOL 🙂
What? Yoochun-ie smoking? Oh no, take care ur health please. . . .
@Zan: and i really hope our JYJ boys, immediately get SOMEONE who really pay attention to their health, and of course our JYJ boys will hear all the worries of that PERSON.. (gf.red)
aarrrgghhh.. this suppose to be below @Zan comment..
sorryy..
lol u and your mouse
LOL so much at the comments on Youtube, but when did he even go to the states? 0.0 hahahah and what is our chunface even doing there?? XD
If the guy with black cap is Mr. Jerry, may be they were there for discussing South America tour?
I am so curious about why chunnie is in Hollywood !!
well, I suffered from asthma no less than Yuchun (I supposed) and got all kinds of bad habit, hahaha, therefore I can perfectly understand why he didn’t quit smoking. One needs some bad habit to sustain our life, esp when we are stressed out from work. Anyway my only concern is, it will have some impact on his public image in short term (ppl will forget quickly though), e.g. on CF endorsement. If the product targets to teenager, a celebrity got caught smoking in public will have less chance. I am a marketing/ad person so this is the first thing that come to my mind.
Everyone or most fans knows that Yoochun smokes…since he has been caught on vid doing that a few times already…though it’s really not a good thing for his health and voice…I’m sure he knows his limits. The same goes for his drinking habits…He’s a grown-up man now and he should know what/when he should/should not do…he will give up these 2 bad habits when he knows it’s time to do that. Let him have some private space for a while….I’m sure he’s sensible enough to know that these 2 bad habits are destroying his health…If he wants to quit, he will quit. Just my opinion.
SM: sing like this, dress like, wear this, say this, move this way, touch your mate, don’t touch your mate, go to japan, come to korea, eat this, don’t eat this, get up, go to the gym, show your muscles, live together, bond together in a foreign country, done singing, jump in the airplane and go to other country, be loyal to your company, listen and obey your elders, don’t visit family, don’t even dare to date… and so on and so forth.
Some fans: don’t smoke, eat more, don’t go to usa, dont’ shag, don’t touch girls, don’t touch boys, come to my country, sing this song, don’t sing this song, don’t date, wear that, why did you wear that, don’t walk like this, don’t associate with those people, i want them with this woman, i don’t want them with this woman, wish they don’t drink, wish they choose a different project…and so on and so forth
Anyone see the parallels between the two entities…US fans can drive these men insane sometimes if we don’t let loose. So, let’s take a chill pill, let them have some big ol FUN.
*** clap *** well said, give him a break, haha
Hahahahaha…..I love you comment..LOL
nice one, well what do u expect is from @daebaksama is always dae to the bak
Oh god, that is such an a$$hole comparison, and you know it’s not legit. You and some of the other people that post here are no better than any other fans, no matter how “mature” you try to make yourself sound. More than smoking, girlfriends, or poor choices, it’s self-righteous FANS who drive other fans away from JYJ. No matter how annoying you think it is, you should be GLAD fans care enough to be concerned about the Yoochun. You know damn well that JYJ has more freedom from fandom demands than pretty much anyone else in kpop, so you can stop insulting everyone who thinks or acts slightly different than you.
@-_- Wow, watch your tone! I agree with some of your points, but you make it difficult when you’re attacking like this.
@daebaksama I think when it comes down to it, intention is VERY important. Everything SM did was to try to wring as much profit out of them as possible. Likewise, fans that try to dictate the guys’ love lives also come from a selfish place.
When fans ask that they take care of themselves, though, it’s out of concern. How can this be equated with selfish demands and criticism?
you dont polite with people i also wont polite with you. you are the asshole one. daebaksama is totally right!
wowww…That serious?????? We all care about the boys..that why we come here….i dont think @@daebaksama mean Insult anyone..(how many time we see the fans care and love the boys touch our heart and we cheers with all our lung) but sometime we have to think our care can change situation or not? or just make them more pressure even we did not mean it….The comparison just let you know they both make the boys harder life even mean bad site or good site..I am not smoking but i know quick smoke very hard feel very awful and a lot of effect..maybe you gain weight a lot , your skin may change for such time….do the boys to have the time deal with that right now?? why dont trust the boys know to control and handle it, their career is their life, should trust them know about that more than us…how may time parent love and care to much but dont trust and dont understand their kids make their kids too much pressure and result become opposite even worse?? i you really love them you hope you and other fans out there can get it…..if from.haters phhhuuu ….always hater!!!
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All the best to you.
You’re a bigger person than me! ❤
@daebaksama ok that is one major daebak comment ahahaha
and may i add in the some fans comments?
some fans: i love my oppa, oppa is the best, oppa do what i like, i loving my oppa more, oppa did a bit not to the liking, start to worrying, oppa did a lot not to the liking, whining a damn whole lot, raging on internet, but still download oppa songs, keep on whinning, in the end of the day keep staring oppa’s nipples, a bit happy, oppa do what i like, now oppa is the best, oppa is a damn man, oppa need do act to my standard, oppa have standard, i want oppa to follow my standard, whining again, rage on YT, tmblr, FB, Twitter, #iloveoppathemost.
tldr: Annoying fans are annoying
You missed the ending #AKTF 😉
Like your comment @daebaksama
@daebaksama i love you for saying that.., well said., just let them chill pepz
I’m glad he’s enjoying himself in L.A. and meeting new people! I don’t understand why there is such an uproar about his smoking, I mean we’ve all known about this for years. We all have a right to be concerned about his health, but I admit the comments saying he should stop bother me – fans have no right to ask such a thing. In my opinion, it’s ok to express one’s concern (e.g. “smoking is bad for his voice”) but it’s not ok to ask “oppa please stop smoking!”. It’s his choice, his life.
Yoochun….TAKE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH PLEASE!!
You would be more successful if you sent your message to his mom, brother or Jaesu. Does his brother have twitter? They might get him to quit. You never know!
It’s so different 😛 I read most of the comment on weibo (Chinese fans mostly) and their focus are on how cool Yuchun is with a cigarette, and what is he doing there, new plan in Hollywood? etc. I am not commenting it is no good to talk about health issue, but it’s just interesting to see the difference between east and west.
@naicha70
IKR?! But I’m here at JYJ3 site and I would love to know what he’s doing in Hollywood :P, curious-curious..
whatever..have a great time there, YC-ssi!!!!!!!! 😀
I love Yoochun (along with JaeSu) as what they are. Theres plus and minus, they are human not God so I dont understand why people judging him just because they doesnt like what yoochun do. Smoking is not a crime anyway, and he is 25 years old young man already. I still love you Yoochun, and always love you.
Same here….whether he smokes or not, that’s his decision. As I posted earlier, I do want him to take care of his health. He can do whatever he wants, I don’t want anyone to force him to quit if he doesn’t want to. I just want him to stay healthy so that he can act and sing for many years to come.
To be honest I am more in shock that this whole thing of YC being spoted in the video accidently smoking a cegarette is news worthy. The news has spread like it is the pleaque. I said it in my post above that it is not like he is smoking crack, LOL!!! Now that would be some news to report for sure. I am a real new fan of his and I did not know he smoked. Now that I know I say the same thing I say in general smoking is bad for anyone. Especially, in his case since he is a singer and has asthma. Yes, I do wish anyone who smokes can find a way to quit because it is bad for thier health. This is medically proven not by me but doctors and anyone who has been affected as result of years of smoking. However, he is a grown man and he needs to descide and find a way to quite. Also, I do feel it is ok for fans to voice thier concerns about him smoking. In terms of them hoping that he would stop smoking and take care of his health. But as a fan we really donot know him personally so we cannot not do anything else but just hope he takes care of his health. The people directly in his circle family and friends can take a more personal approach to get thim to stop smoking but not a fan. So for me yes i do hope he stops smoking one day because I want him to be around for a long time so I can enjoy him. Personally I would like to enjoy him literally but that dream will never come true, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until then I will continue to hope and pray he stops smoking. My love for him as a fan has not changed and will continue to grow.
@flower: sweet.. i like it. 🙂
To me, this is news worthy, or at least comment worthy because though I’d heard he smoked, this is the first time I actually saw him doing it. So right away, it stood out. Plus, he only appears for a few seconds while the guy was busy filming the wrong person, lol, so since I have no idea why he was in LA, smoking quickly becomes the only thing worth talking about.
Well said ^^
wow, long post O_o!
don’t want to commend or give advice, just curious why Chunnie suddenly appear with them? i only want this answer… Other things…. well, he is Park Yu Chun i know from the beginning and i always know there are no such 100% perfect person in this world, Peace !
And I am just across the street. Always imagined I might come across one of them around the H&H area. Have fun!
woooooaaaahhh!!!! love the comment! he’s smoke? okay, i hate it. but whatever! hahahaha! i just love the fact that people notice him! even more than ashley and gabe. who the hell are they?
@everyone
The topic is on what is YC doing here… 🙂 not why is YC smoking there… LOL
Ok, can i share my standing point on smoking (especially YC smoking)
Do I smoke = NO
Do I like cigarette smell = NO
Will I learn to smoke = NO
Will I encourage someone to smoke = NO
Do i think smoking is good = NO
Will I stop someone from smoking = NO
Do I think ppl who smokes has short life = NO
Do i wish a person (esp who i care for) to stop smoking = YES
Well, above seems to be contradicting right?? I know smoking is not good for health and i dont like (or arther i cant take) the cigarette smell.. But I will not stop someone from smoking. but i will (or rather i do and i did) suggest to reduce the intake or frequency and explain the side effect of smoking (if he/ she doesnt know).. quit smoking is his/her decision that i cant control.. But i dont accept ppl saying things like ppl who smoke will die earlier or smokers are evil or bad ppl.. NO!! thats is so wrong.. There are millions of ppl dying with heart disease, liver cancer, HIV, other kinds of cancers, and fatal accident (which are not smoking related).. It is true that smoking can cause most of the diseases i mentioned but not all those patients are smokers but may be majority… Sometimes u get liver cancer cuz of the food intake, or medication.. and there are lots of young ppl dying everyday due to fatal accidents among them some doesnt smoke nor drink AT ALL.. There are thousands of soldiers dying everyday ; they might smoke but they die not bcuz of smoking.. It is their fate if they have to die early or not… Of cuz it will be good if ppl can avoid all the unhealthy things.. But we all are humans right?? human likes sinful things (in terms of food or so).. I have a bit of high blood cholestrol level (altho i am very slim) but i love Prok Belly~~ Sinful ya?? 😛 I tried to reduce the intake but i still eat it.. Altho so, i cant predict myself that i will have a long life.. No one knows that , i guess… So what i mean is it is true that we care for the boys and we want them to be healthy.. Thats the reason some fans are asking him not to smoke.. But we cant assure their long life if they stop smoking, right?? So let them decide if they want to continue or not!!! 🙂 They are adults.. And so far i know, our JYJ boys are not that type of ppl who will brainlessly do stupid things wthiout thinking the outcome, agree?? So they know what they are doing.. 🙂 respect their decision… Of cuz i wish that he (in fact not only him, all the ppl in the world) is healthy and live a long life… (sound angelic?? ROFL)
When i first saw the vids i just thought that he’s a fan of Gabe’s, cuz my Chunnie listens to all different kinds of music, but now i’m not sure ~~ my biggest question is, what the heck IS he doing in LA??? ^_~ SARANGHAE CHUNNIE!!! ^_~
YOOCHUN LOOKS SO EFFIN COOL! 😀
Thank you uploader for sharing!
when i saw this post WOW 200+ comments but then YAHHH its all about smoking… poor Yuchunnie….i do believe Jeri S. brought him there, but still its a big exposure to yoochun having fun with some holywood celebs…
YOOOOOCHUNNNNN
only see you not AS or her bf nothing just you and you ❤
ur dorky face and ur acting, OMG OMG OMG
ah, everyone is having a heated argument over Yoochun’s smoking issue. I’ve come to accept that Chunnie does smoke, so this doesn’t surprise me at all. We can ask him to take care of his health, but the choice is his. He should know better than anyone how to care for himself and his voice. He’s a grown man anyway. I dislike guys who smoke and drink. But Jaejoong drinks a lot, and smokes too. What can I do? I still love him to death. Same for Yoochun. The thing that caught my attention in the videos was not Yoochun’s smoking, but that when the guy with black cap said something like “you know who they are. Come here, come here”, did Yoochun response with “Oh my God, no. Fuck no!”? XD That’s interesting. Why wouldn’t he want to be introduced to the other celebrities there? Overall, I find him totally cool hanging around in Hollywood like this. Still wonder about the purpose of his sudden trip to the U.S though.
when the guy with black cap said something like “you know who they are. Come here, come here”, did Yoochun response with “Oh my God, no. Fuck no!”? XD That’s interesting. Why wouldn’t he want to be introduced to the other celebrities there?
i didnt notice that ….he didnt want to introduced to them ?? so why did he go there ?
he is really sth….
all these comments about smoking O_O
actually i myself hate smoking plus drinking find it powerful killer
i really love yuchun and jae and wish they take care of their own health but it’s up to them
I pray for Allah to guide and protect them
I think yuchun is there to talk about business with this black cap guy however i wished jaesu were there too or at least jae
but what caught my attention is that i guess all those in the video knew abut that paparazzi camera except yuchun
I don’t like JYJ to be used
I have this feeling about this American stuff since the American tour
i admit.. its a turn off for me when a guy is smoking..
but when i saw YC smoking..it turns me off at first but my bias-ness for him never ceased …
my dad smoke too..but what can i do? though it annoys me but i still love him.. just like yoochun, it bothers me but it wouldn’t be , it will never be, a reason to not love him..
Reality check, when it comes to love… you’ll accept the person the way he is no matter what .. Just like having your perfect ideal man/woman but you ended up the opposite..
If he changes because of you, that would only be a bonus. The secret to a relationship is really acceptance and trust.
OMGEEE 245 COMMENTS ……and whaaay about smoking…lets spazz gals…sorry to my comment peace
@bubbly @gigi @zan @nycolet @loveunchangeed @putrihs @all chunsas…
I will b out of town for 10days.. no ph or internet access.. Catch up wit u guys in feb.. guys.. happy lunar new year¡¡¡¡¡
@nandar:.wooaahhhh… im sure u will missing uri chunnie.. hehehebebe.. take care. Bdw.. I’m also going to honeymoon for 2 days. but I’m gonna still trying to monitor the latest news from our ninja. have funnn.. 🙂
I’m gonna miss u @nandar
don’t forget to bring Chun home if u spot him somewhere in part of this earth. He’s been ninja for too long!
I dont really care for ashley but ha! Ninja yoochun!!! Omg hahaha but… Smoking… Ew…
i’m curious, are those people writing “eww he’s smoking” comment also say the same thing to their family members or colleagues who are smoking? i don’t support smoking, especially in public which is still common *and annoying* in my country, but i don’t jump around saying “eww stop smoking” all the time. and i see most people not doing that. so i’m curious of why not many really “stand up” against people they know personally smoking, and many people being such busybody towards someone they don’t know personally. and well, it’s not like yoochun reading the whole “oppa stop smoking” comments.
this is probably just a hang-out between friends, but it’ll be cool if someday yoochun breaks into hollywood scene 😀
the comments at youtube..LOL
finally can watch him light the cigarette 😛