JYJ3 Note: Nikkan Cizo is a Japanese Tabloid that reported about the possible reunion of THSK through AVEX . Please take the information with a grain of salt.
[JAPANESE NEWS] 120122 “Will Tohoshinki be Avex’s Savior?” The surfacing of reuniting Tohoshinki Project.
The day the five people together again is coming?
Early in the year Avex was shaken by the news of Ayumi Hamasaki’s divorce announcement and in the end the project of reuniting Tohoshinki was brought to surface.
“Avex crammed Ayumi’s PV since debut and special video footages into a DVD-Box and put it on sale on New Year’s Day. We can see that Avex and Ayumi is battling it out, using the hot excellent card of ‘divorce’” (Music insider)
Also, along with Ayumi, Avex’s ace, EXILE also put out their PV compilation at the same time, but it seems that so far the sales didn’t reach their target.
“Adding to the continuous recession in the music market, time has come that (one) cannot sell based only on music. Avex changed their strategy to adding the special edition PV from previous albums etc as freebies and extensively marketing it. It’s okay since Ayumi is under their management, but EXILE and Amuro Namie aren’t from their company and are under other management, they do not get much profit.” (Music insider)
Speaking of other management, Avex is the one in charge for Tohoshinki who belongs to Korea’s ‘SM Entertainment’ and are the ones in charge of their (Tohoshinki) extensive promotional activities in Japan, thus growing them up to par as their own artist. But, due to the conflicts regarding to their contract with SM, 3 members parted from the original 5 members group and they are currently doing their activities under the name JYJ. But it seems that there is a project in reuniting the 5 members.
“The recent Tohoshinki consist of Yunho and Changmin, but the most popular member in Japan is JYJ’s Jaejoong. Initially, Avex had a contract with JYJ’s management but due to a person with ‘dark background’ the contract was abruptly halted. Due to that reason, JYJ’s activities in Japan ceased and last year, due to the Tohoku Great Earthquake Charity Concert, they are facing another dispute in court. In addition to that, they are also being dragged into the false charity party for Tohoku Great Earthquake thus the continuous trouble. In Korea, using their power, SM has restricted JYJ’s appearance in (TV) programs but their ability to attract audience is undeniably huge. Therefore, as a hypothetical solution to JYJ’s trouble is a project to bring about the five members in live concert at a big place like Tokyo Dome. It seems that Avex who is losing ‘sellable’ stuff’s savior is to make it (the project) possible. But, due to JYJ’s affiliation to the rumored ‘dark acquaintances’, it seems that it would not carry through.” (Weekly magazine reporter).
And it appears that the ones who ‘bought’ the project’s story is Ayumi.
“Ayumi originally is really close to JYJ to the extent of collaborating with Junsu’s twin brother, Junho in a song for her album. During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’, thus rendering the planned collaboration. Via Twitter, Avex received a lot of complaints. There are those rumors that Ayu is the middle person in coordinating for both parties to meet halfway for the sake of reunion. (Weekly magazine reporter).
Even when there’s a lot of fans who wish for the five’s reunion, realistically it is a difficult project and it seems that Avex is in a difficult situation.
Source: Excite.co.jp
Translated by: Helly of JYJ3
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[KOREAN NEWS] 120124 AVEX to act as the savior and reunite TVXQ?
On January 22nd, TVXQ fans all over the world were greeted with an article discussing the possibility of a reunion. A Japanese media outlet posted the article with the title, “Can AVEX be the Savior? The theory of TVXQ’s reunion project.” An official reported, “On the dawn of New Years, it was announced that AVEX and Ayumi Hamasaki are participating in TVXQ’s reunion project.” This came after AVEX reported low sales of their ballad tracks recently.
A magazine reported in Japan stated, “Japan’s most popular member is Jaejoong. Previously JYJ has had problems with AVEX hindering their activities in Japan. He continued by saying that some people are still skeptical that a reunion will actually happen, given the current and past situations between the companies and their groups.
The reporter also mentioned, “Previously, there were disputes with the charity concert that JYJ wanted to hold in Japan after the Earthquakes last year. He also noted that even though there are plenty of fans to support the project, it may still be hard for AVEX to come through on the project and see that the reunion happens.
The reunion is rumored to be a concert that will be held at the Tokyo Dome. Ayumi Hamasaki is currently working as the negotiator on the project. The project is also rumored to include JYJ’s acquaintances such as Junsu’s twin brother Juno.
Netizens have commented, “I am excited that it has gotten this far already,” “I hope this goes through,” “I don’t think AVEX can pull this off,” and “I hope we can see a reunion concert this year!”
What do you think of the possibility of a TVXQ reunion in the future?
Source: Newsen (1 and 2)
Credit: Koreaboo
[KOREAN NEWS] 120124 Possibility of TVXQ reunion through Avex?
Recent news on the possibility of TVXQ‘s reunion is sending shockwaves throughout the industry.
On January 22nd, a Japanese article titled, “Will Avex act as the savior? TVXQ’s reunion project” surfaced. It reported of rumors of a reunion concert at Tokyo Dome orchestrated by Avex, who was previously accused of hindering JYJ‘s Japanese activities. In light of Avex’s recent under-performing releases, it is said that they are willing to go head with this project and stop hindering JYJ’s Japanese activities. Japanese superstar Ayumi Hamasaki is rumored to be negotiating on behalf of both sides.
While the news of a possible reunion is being met with enthusiasm by fans all over the world, many are skeptical of the chances of such a reunion actually occurring. The fact that this reunion is being orchestrated by Avex instead of SM Entertainment is also a cause of skepticism.
The article goes on to state, “While the reunion of TVXQ is something that many fans are waiting, the small possibility of this actually happening is an indicator of Avex’s desperation,” hinting that Avex’s recent lack of success may be reason for pursuing such a unlikely project.
TVXQ fans responded to the news with, “While it would be great if reunion happens, it seems unlikely“, “They say Avex will lead the project but I can’t trust them“, and “I hope they stop writing these pointless reunion articles“.
Source & Image: Newsen via Nate
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Joke of the day! 😀
yup but i think it’s gonna be a joke for a year from now
ROFL
i’m sure there are some people gonna keep this news up and up again
Yes, but somehow instead of laughing I want to break someone’s face (Avex CEO). This is not funny; it’s creating chaos among the fandom. Last night some of my latin friends were shocked and confused, even thinking why was this happening and if the memebers, specially Jae, had given up their efforts to continue harvesting successes as three. I know, I know, this is just a bad intended rumor but many girls, who are not as strong in thier knowledge and beliefs as many of us in here, had this thing choking their throats. ¿Why this kind of “undesirable news” are coming to light now? OBVIOUSLY, it came from Avex; no other (only SM) can create this kind of bad intended rumors.. This “reunion” is not possible. There are many things that prevent its happening. But again, who’s going to remain in a bad position before the public if this never happens (and it will NEVER happen)??? No other than JYJ. They are going to be blamed for the impossibility of this to come to light as a fact. ¿Are these three strong and talented men going to give up their efforts, their freedom, their successes, their happiness, their will, their sufferings only to save Avex from bankrupcy? ¿What for? ¿Which is their gaining in here? ¿Which is their incentive? besides, the two remainig members of Tohoshinki has no interest in being related to the three or their acquaintances:
“During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that “‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’”, thus rendering the planned collaboration.”
¿Isn’t this enough reason to stay away from TVXQ2, Avex and SM?
To be the saviour of the people who want to crucify you; this is a task impossible to fulfill by a regular human being.
No. The ones who orchestrated this are desperate; their bussiness is sinking and it seems there’s no other way to stop it but involving JYJ in it. But JYJ is better and strong enough to surpass this obstacle as well. They can’t go back; they can’t renew the past anguish and sufferings. There’s not good nor enough reason to do so. JYJ is better than that, they proven so, and they will stay as three because this is how they want to be from now on.
Dear @J2, @Miaw, girls, sorry for intruding your post with my rant but I had to speak this out, because this kind of news make no sense at all; thse only create false expectations among the light spirited.
I want to slap that jerk CEO….They usually slap a man’s face as an insult, right?
¡YES! Slap that jerk hard. ¿Do you want me to help you with my frying pan? It’s ready for war 😉
@Shadow @Girls
¡HEELP!! I just realized something: JYJ is still under Avex’s contract although C-Jes is trying to free them through the lawsuit, but there haven’t been rulings on that matter yet. ¿Am I wrong or right?
And…..¡OH GOD! ¿What if Avex is trying to FORCE JYJ to comeback as five with Homin? ¿What if they are using the frozen contract to force JYJ? ¡OH DEAR!!!! I don’t like the looks of this.
¡Someone, please enlighten me!!!!!!!!
@shuheilove: LOL! Let’s do! I might burn that bastard….(errr…can I say that here) with my blood temperature though.
@ shuheilove at ¡HEELP!! I just realized something: JYJ is still under Avex’s contract although C-Jes is trying to free them through the lawsuit, but there haven’t been rulings on that matter yet.
Ooo….You made me worry. Now I am searching the google ……..!
@shuheilove
“And…..¡OH GOD! ¿What if Avex is trying to FORCE JYJ to comeback as five with Homin? ¿What if they are using the frozen contract to force JYJ? ¡OH DEAR!!!! I don’t like the looks of this.”
My assessment is as follows: AVEX can not force JYJ to do anything. They have tried to block them in Japan consistently for the last year. That is all they can do. They can not insist/force JYJ to do anything that they do not choose to do.
@LILI
Dearest, that’s what I think, but I can’t confide in such trickers and dirty liars as Avex is. They only want to take advantage on the situation and to leave JYJ at the edge again, at least before public opinion’s eyes.
@ miaw: I think some Cassie will take this as the answer to their prayers. I mean I love them 5, but that Avex CEO is the new Hitler!
Avex is desperate… that’s all i can say..
using JYJ to advance their personal agenda.. if the reunion does not happen.. will the people then put blame to JYJ?
Why always put pressure to JYJ for the freaking reunion… arghhh,,
Coz our boys are nicer.
You never see those fans doing what they did to those from the other side. They always bully JYJ only.
This came after AVEX reported low sales of their ballad tracks recently.
WHAT? I think that sentences should answer all question about AVEX..
Avex is desperate!!
I love HoMin and I love JYJ just as much. I’m actually more biased towards JYJ but your comment is just ugh…..
“They always bully JYJ only.” ? Really?? Homin was getting bashed A LOT by JYJ fans two years ago. Yunho even said he felt like dying at the time. And in almost every HoMin video, you’ll see comments like “They’re better as 5” “They need JYJ back”. etc etc it sucks that homin aren’t getting any credit for their comeback, they worked just as hard. I’m not saying JYJ didn’t receive any bashing, cos they did, but so did HoMin. I just hated how you make JYJ fans sound like saints and HoMin fans are the only one at fault d:
@Mohlica
As far as I know, this is an exclusive JYJ site, for JYJ lovers. We don’t have to give any credit to Homin for their comeback as TVXQ2 (using the name TVXQ who belongs to the five members, not to them as 2). LOL, we’re not saints; we are warriors and ninjas; JYJ’s army. Homin fans are…. Homin fans; not nice nor kind innocent doves.
@Mohlika
” “They need JYJ back”. etc etc it sucks that homin aren’t getting any credit for their comeback, they worked just as hard. I’m not saying JYJ didn’t receive any bashing, cos they did, but so did HoMin. ”
My dear, dear Mohlika –
In what universe does “working just as hard” if you are in fact …well, lets just say pretty dreadful, have any meaning?? Homin “working hard” only matters if they are in kindergarten, where “working hard” is all that counts and everybody who does so gets a gold star. This is the Big Leagues, girl. This is the World Stage. These two are still sorely lacking in the kind of skills that should give them any kind of recognition at all. The only thing they have going for them is association with the DBSK/TVXQ name. Which they unfairly and unethically (I think) grabbed for themselves, counting on the fact that JYJ would not come out against them for doing it.
You have to think. You have to THINK and then think some more before you post.
@mohlika
The truth is, if HM had more balls and kept their mouths shut, they wouldn’t have gotten all that heat.
And if you really love JYJ as much, you would have felt terrible at the things HM said, but you don’t.
So don’t come here and tell us what to do, think and feel.
@Shuheilove
Yes dear, we are JYJ ninjas!!! 🙂
@Lili my sister.
Thinking, is too difficult for them. 😛
rite!!! I personally really-really dont wanna REUNION!! JYJ is JYJ. JYJ bigger with their own sweat, tears, and blood. so… Its about pointless to JYJ to Reunite again. aargghh…
omg… JYJ has many problem already, why with this shit reunion come up again????? uuhhh
Erm… When Avex is in deep shit? Hahaha
“When Avex is in deep shit?” – AVEX will be in deep shit if AVEX continues gossiping and spreading rumors like this.
AVEX, if you really are a company, just do what a company do, and do it diligently and earnestly. Not gossiping around and wasting your working time. If you do your work clumsily like this, you will lose more in the future. There will be no more investors for you, AVEX. No sane investors will come to you if you have bad track record, gossiping – spreading rumors – wasting time.
“Initially, Avex had a contract with JYJ’s management but due to a person with ‘dark background’ the contract was abruptly halted.”
The one with the initials PSM?!!
I mean “The one with the initials LSM?!!” 😛
@Shadow The truth is, if HM had more balls and kept their mouths shut, they wouldn’t have gotten all that heat.
And if you really love JYJ as much, you would have felt terrible at the things HM said, but you don’t.
So don’t come here and tell us what to do, think and feel.
Saying this is a bit harsh don’t you think anyways im not even going to get into it but tell me exactly what did homin say that insulted JYJ so much? besides not wanting to work with Junho…..Junho and jyj are two different people so when it comes to that don’t mix jyj in it so far on what i read they said nothing about jyj at all,
@ Everyone else, and yeah this is a jyj biased site obviously so why keep bashing on Homin i mean come on cut them some slack HoMin have been through a lot of shit and they endured it just JYJ an di respect both sides for enduring all the craps fan say about them but saying shit like this and i quote ( more like copy and paste)
@lilbaiyu ” In what universe does “working just as hard” if you are in fact …well, lets just say pretty dreadful, have any meaning?? Homin “working hard” only matters if they are in kindergarten, where “working hard” is all that counts and everybody who does so gets a gold star. This is the Big Leagues, girl. This is the World Stage. These two are still sorely lacking in the kind of skills that should give them any kind of recognition at all. The only thing they have going for them is association with the DBSK/TVXQ name. Which they unfairly and unethically (I think) grabbed for themselves, counting on the fact that JYJ would not come out against them for doing it.
You have to think. You have to THINK and then think some more before you post.”
@lilibaiyu Is just outrageous, don’t tell others to think before they say anything please try taking your own advise first and then come back, if you were so unaware that Homin is still under contract with SM Ent. they have to cary out the name DBSK DUH!! or else what would happen to it. i can’t say that they couldn’t leave with jyj but im sure they have their own reasons that were not disclosed to the public so in saying stuff like they just wanted to keep the name dbsk for themselves is actually really illogical, so if you don’t know the specific reasons in detail as to what happened withing the SM Ent. business with JYJ and HoMin Please don’t say anything at all becaue that is just false information others could beleive, and thats not going to get anywhere.
in a way you have to be great-full to SM Ent. because had they not created DBSK there would be NO JYJ for that i thank them and only that.
Note* im not biased towards any groupd i like them both HoMin and JYJ Equally im just going of on some logical reasoning unlike some fans do, so if you are going to give a comeback then do it with out saying im a biased of this and that.
@Sulli
Seems like you have no or little knowledge of what had happened between JYJ & HM.
Either you only visit ot5 sites who have alter the news and interviews to make it seemed like a beautiful picture or you just don’t register what bad things HM had said about JYJ.
My advise to you: Do your homework before making any comments. Else it’ll only make you look silly, that’s all. And no, it’s not even about Junho.
Oh, btw your comments…. Are simply bias! There, I said it. You’re obviously on the side of HM and SM. So don’t deny it.
Be brave to show your support to your bias, just like we JYJ fans are.
@Sulli
Well, it seems you’re just as nonsensical as your Ot5 friends, so I’m not going to waste my time nor my energies trying to “bring up” your good sense. I only want to say this: We are talking about HOMIN because you and your friends come here to throw up their names on our faces, claiming justice and equal rights for them, skipping the fact that this is an EXCLUSIVE JYJ3 SITE. So, at the end. you and your friends are the ONLY ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR HOMIN’S BASHING in here. And I kindly ask you, no; I demand you to be more respectful to the JYJ fans in JYJ3 BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SILLY TEENAGERS as you and your ot5 friends are. We are grown up people, intelligent enough to distinguish between good and evil, and clever enough to know who’s telling the truth and who doesn’t; who’s being true and who’s an hypocrite. We are mature enough to distinguish who’s worthy of confidence and who doesn’t and we know which gound are we standing on.
Look if you so mature you would have an open mind of what i’m trying to say and please don’t categorize me with other fans that like to bah if i wanted to bash JYJ i would have a long time ago and i obviously i like them as well why do do you think i haven’t said anything bad against them and you are no body of to be demanding anything from me, i voice my opinion on how i see it and i asked what happened, so if your level of maturity is a high as you say it is then refrain yourself from going any further with going as far as saying you know how to distinguish evil and hypocritical people and what not, you must be intense to be talking about worthy and shit, i mean chill it’s not that serious relax, also saying me and my friends? um excuse me but which of my “Friends” as you say are here? please don’t say anything more i don’t wish to hear it , and I an not responsible for bashing on any side of JYJ nor HoMin, because i’m not BASHING, i’m simply voicing an opinion and trying to ease the tension on HoMin just like i would do if i saw any bashing on JYJ and yes i admit i might seem biased in your eyes because of what i said about homin but doesn’t prove anything, and you don’t know me to assume such things. please keep an open mind before you say anything else. and obviously i’s exclusive JYJ site or else i wouldn’t be in here le duh, ahh i seriously don’t want to get into this back and forth thing with who is right and wrong i honestly don’t care about fan wars and crap like that……………….
and again because you seem to not have noticed that i said i’m not biased towards any of them or any Kpop group in that matter, and you seem to not want to admit the SM was the one that brought them up if not they would not be here today, also asking what homing said to JYJ i asked you because i don’t know so obviously i’m waiting for an answer unless you don’t have one to back it up? and if your trying to bring me back to the ancient history of Yunho saying he got no text messages from JeaJoong, girl please,that’s way long gone plus, i’m not saying anything out of the ordinary…..and there is no homework to be done? making a comment is not making myself look silly, you silly girl, i simply just voice my opinion when i feel their is to much bashing on one side, but i mean that it was to be expected i’m in a JYJ3 biased site so it didn’t phase me and i’m discussing this matter with JYJ biased fans. and please don’t assume that i only visit ot5 sites on your own.
@Sulli
Woman, I’m just wondering why are you insisting in coming back to argue with NOBODY. Better do something “worthy” of your advantageous position as the only thinking person in here instead of being wasting your time, disrespecting and insulting us in here.
i could ask you the same question girl? why are you insisting on arguing with someone you think who has nothing to do? i mean you must be just as bored as i’m to keep going back and forth with me…….(-.-)b and us? what us? the person im speaking to momentarily is you who decided to comment me first, and im not being disrespectful simply curious and trying to understand and if that is disrespectful to you that im trying to ease the wars and all other craps going on or just because i voice my opinion then you should consider what you said to me and tell me if you weren’t disrespectful when you made that comment, please reflect on your actions before you try to come here and tell me what i’am and what i’m doing? Okay! sayonara
@Shadow Well if you think i’m not very aware of what’s happening with JYJ and HM then please, inform me and maybe i would have a better understanding as to your dislike towards homin, and when i asked about their issue is not so i could get homework from you, i was expecting a direct answer, come on we are not in school, and also what ever i said is not making me look silly, because i didn’t make a joke nor did i say anything out of the ordinary, so i don’t understand what in this worth made you think it would make me look silly?
Okay you can disregard what i said about me not being biased there is only 2 groups i adore and that’s JYJ and HoMin weather they are together or not i could careless honestly i like their music, there is no crime in that. everything else, like the fan wars bashing this and that who is wrong and who is right, and each side always being on the defensive when one fandom makes a comment about the other group, it just sounds like a bunch of rambling girls…
@Sulli
Sorry your highness; @Shadow is not available.
Your words are making you look hurtful. As @Shadow says, why don’t you try to do some research for yourself instead of being arguing without valid arguments? You can start in here http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/
And no more disrespects nor insults please.
Okay, your majesty my words were not meant to make me look hurtful or hurt anyone and or hateful, i was trying to be logical and when i voiced my opinion i wasn’t looking for an argument i’m seriously just trying to understand your Majesty, and finally you give me info on why you guys are so offended when HoMin is mentioned here geez it wasn’t that hard.
@Sulli
here http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/
hope can help you……..like that never end…when everything really in table, come down and talk!!
@Anva
Sweetie, thanks a lot. Hugs you my dear 🙂
@Sulli
¿See? It wasn’t so hard. You could have asked for info since the beginning and we could’ve skipped the headache 😉
You’re welcome to talk to us whenever you want.
Finally we get somewhere the info i needed and all this headaches and back and forth would have been prevented could have saved all the headaches and the back and forth with each other, thanks! now that this is clear im going to read this and see why so much hate on the Homin…….i’m kinda scared now T_T shit might make me mad >.>
@Sulli
Not hate dear, but a very deep dissapointment on them. Read judiciously please.
@Sulli
If it turns a little hard to find the proper info, here’s the direct link
http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/yunho-and-changmin-switch-their-stance-on-jyj/
@Sulli
“you seem to not want to admit the SM was the one that brought them up if not they would not be here today,”
I can’t help but notice after reading 2 of your posts now that we see things rather differently. You have accepted the propaganda and the lines of reasoning of SM and the OT5s who have an agenda towards supporting SM at all costs. You are generally uninformed as well as being misinformed, but the bad thing about that is–you don’t know it. You think you are being “logical.” But you’re not. Believe it or not, you are parroting lines and phrases that we here on JYJ3 have heard hundreds of times now. The “we don’t know anything” defense whenever there’s no other explanation for these rationalizations of yours is old news to us and I’m sorry but it doesn’t convince anyone of much of anything here. Because in many, many cases, we DO know. How? Because we have spent months doing the research. The answers ARE available if you dig for them. But you have to care enough to want to know what is really going on.
If you do, I suggest you go to JYJFiles and start reading. Here is a good place to start:
http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/yunho-and-changmin-switch-their-stance-on-jyj/
If you DON’T want to have an honest, factual understanding of what the real story of SM and Homin and JYJ is, then why are you coming here and merely wasting your time and claiming to being “logical”?
thanks for the link i will get informed and then come back with a logical response to that
@Shuheilove
@Anva
lol I love the way we’re all trying to send Sulli to JYJ Files. Great sisters think alike! 🙂
But really, Sulli–if you are reading this, please understand that after coming here and causing such an uproar and then demanding that WE educate you in some sort of summarized fashion – well, it’s a bit much to ask, really it is. Besides, every one of us here who really has an in depth understanding of the DBSK to JYJ timeline and the events surrounding the lawsuit, and of course the lawsuit itself began at ‘JYJ Files’ and did the reading.
I think that’s what Shuheilove was saying to you–we are serious minded people willing to do the work to get the information, and believe me — there’s a lot of it. In my experience, OT5s say “we as fans don’t know everything and until we do we have to give Homin the benefit of the doubt” are just trying to stay asleep and dreaming after they’ve come across some unpleasant facts of how their heroes have behaved.
Homin’s employers SM, who they chose to support and stay with, have made life as miserable for JYJ since the split as they possibly could. Homin have done not one thing, not said one word in solidarity with their former members. They have rather, traded on and benefited from the name that does not belong solely to them –it belongs to all five members, which they themselves have been quoted repeatedly in the press and in videos as saying.
The name is very valuable, as you might imagine, and SM needed to hang on to Homin in order to have access to it — to continue to exploit it for as long as possible, to make as much money from it as possible. If Homin had left with JYJ 2 years ago, The Five would have been able to continue on as DBSK/TVXQ and there would have been nothing SM could have done about it. THAT was what SM needed to avoid at all costs.
🙂
@LILI
As dear @Shadow use to say, “great minds think alike”. In this particular case we could talk about “educated minds on all issues related to JYJ”. To tell the truth, the whole story around the “SM-JYJ-Avex” turned from being highly interesting into a great passion 🙂
I think they’re talking about that ‘mob ties’ stuff.
Oh, I got you now! ^_^
Ahahaha^^ 😀
@Shadow
You meant Pee ShoeMan? ^___^
You’re so clever sweetie^^
@Shadow
““Initially, Avex had a contract with JYJ’s management but due to a person with ‘dark background’ the contract was abruptly halted.””
Yes, that one sentence tells you all you need to know about the identity of the writer of the article: Shill For AVEX.
Poor AVEX! after dumped JYJ to d ground, now they r trying to use JYJ’s popularity to get new profit!
huh, i can’t believe that they can do this shameful act!
OH trust me, they ARE THAT SHAMELESS! 😀
There is absolutely no SHAME TO THEIR GAME!
@BAF sis, there you are!
Come join the fun~ 😛
yeah its really funny,
i almost fell out of my chair…
hahahaahhahaha
+1 like!
+1 vote: most appropriate response!
“What do you think of the possibility of a TVXQ reunion in the future?”
if it’s “orchestrated” by SME or Avex, then i’d say NO THANK YOU. i would love for the five to reunite, but NOT under these 2 companies. we’ve been stabbed one time too many by these two. i can be 100% supportive of the artist but i have absolutely no loyalty to the companies.
me? I no longer want any reunification whatsoever. TVXQ is a thing in the past. it hurts to say it still, but it’s a thing in the past. (then again things can change. like now that HOT reunion is a possibility…) But as a hardcore Dongbang fan, i’ve moved on. i’m only loyal to the past dongbang. Yunho and Changmin lost my loyalty. so even if they reunite with JYJ, I wouldn’t welcome those two with open arms. so if i’m being selfish alone, I’d say JYJ turn their backs on those two. i understand and respect the friendship the five had, I really do. it’s not an easy thing to turn your back from. but if only Yunho, as the leader, fought hard to not use TVXQ name without the other three… then maybe i could’ve remained loyal to him and the other one. but they’ve said hurtful things against JYJ in public. if JYJ can forgive, as a dongbang fan, I can’t. that’s my 2 cents.
JYJ fighting!
“I’d say JYJ turn their backs on those two. i understand and respect the friendship the five had, I really do. it’s not an easy thing to turn your back from.”
It’s like the old saying goes “it takes courage to stand up to your enemies and even more to stand up to your friends”. Until JYJ comes to the decision themselves and does things on their own terms, I don’t want a reunion. And I can’t promise that I’ll be happy with one if they accept HoMin with open arms. Wounds take time to heal and every time they start to, someone else rubs salt in it and rips it back open again.
Hey, I respect your opinion, but perhaps is important to realize that everything that Homin says on TV is fake. SMe controls what they say so when JYJ makes calls or talks directly to them, they arent really allowed to respond. I think with such a strong bond that DBSK once had, Homin wouldn’t just hate them for going out and making their own futures. Yunho couldn’t have fought for the name, because irregardless of what he wants, TVXQ the band is owned by SMe. Just like UKISS, they changed two members one year after their debut, and they still kept the name.
As much as we don’t like it, thats the way it is.
lol but personally, on my iPod,KYHD, and TONE, and stuff, its just under HoMin.
so yeah 🙂
@Quibla
So essentially, you’re saying HM are just puppets!
We’ve heard that excuses millions of time…. Duh~
@Quibla
“TVXQ the band is owned by SMe”
I just wanted to correct your misconception here. Actually this is not true. I am reposting here something I posted as a reply to someone else who also had the same misconception. I hope you see this and don’t make this mistake again. And please feel free to eucate anyone else you see making the wrongful assertion that SME owns the name TVXQ.
Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yuchun have exactly as much right to the name TVXQ as Yunho and Changmin. That’s a COURT DECIDED QUESTION! The five people own the name, not Yunho+Changmin, not SME, not Avex, not anyone other than ALL FIVE MEN! So why ~should~ Jaejoong and Yuchun have to take the tattoos off? It’s THEIR NAME too! Always was, and always will be. No one can take it away from them. The ONLY reason that Yunho and Changmin are getting away with using the name is because Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yuchun are too f–king nice for their own damn good and haven’t gotten around to suing the hell out of the other two and SME to force them to stop using the name. Which they have EVERY BLOODY RIGHT to do so! and JYJ is the majority owner of TVXQ anyway. Last I checked, 3/5 > 2/5.
http://jyj3.net/2011/01/30/trans-how-did-sm%E2%80%99s-trademark-to-%E2%80%98dong-bang-shin-ki%E2%80%99-get-rejected/
Here is the most relevant portion:
“The requested trademark filed by SM Entertainment is inextricably and intrinsically connected to famous a cappella dance and singing group members U-know Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun, Xiah Junsu and Choikang and as such, under Trademark Act Article 7.1.6, this request cannot be accepted. In addition, because this request involves minors, under Patent Law Article 3, Article 5 and Article 909 of the Civil Code, it is necessary to also obtain the permission of the minors’ parents and submit it in writing. End.”
@shadow
“Joke of the day!”
Yeah, Yunho looks real cocky in that last photo when he’s got JYJ backing him up every step of the way. Now? Not so much. I’ve SEEN the videos of the Yokohama concert a couple of days ago. It’s a sad sad thing….
*PUNCHES AVEX IN THE FACE*
This is such a stupid and obviously false rumor. Avex needs to stop riding on JYJ’s coattails.=_=
Well, the Mirotic era was one hot era, if I’m allowed to do a very shallow comment :___)
(not even getting into this because I don’t see it happening anytime soon, lol.)
mte.
the article didn’t even mention anything really new or substantial. Unless, of course, JYJ will not be blocked in Japan anymore and they negotiate a partnership of sorts with Avex (with a fair contract) then by all means, go ahead. The boys have got good heads on their shoulders, I trust them to make the best decisions for themselves, regardless of what fans say (because fans aren’t privy to the nitty gritty details).
Same here. Reunion is impossible, what concerns me is that Avex sounds desperate. I do hope Avex and Cjes can negotiate and achieve consensus, Avex needs money, jyj needs exposure and japan market, best to get a win -win
-True this
I am also hoping jyj can have access to more music, training and live band if they want to maintain at the top of kpop/jpop industry.
agree, only want JYJ to go back to Japan, but the reunion, just respect the desision of JYJ, if they want and do the and feel happy to reunion I will supoort^^ but I am still not hating HOMIN as they said bad words for JYJ in the TV show, especailly Yuho which actually not like a leader^^
reposting what I said on twitter:
– Bigeast is open for membership. These kind of articles always show up around this time.
– Don’t put everything on Jaejoong’s shoulders. It is not only up to him to decide. He has enough antis as it is.
– He received so much shit when they split; with everyone thinking that he didn’t try enough to hold the group together. what is he? super glue?
/end
“He received so much shit when they split; with everyone thinking that he didn’t try enough to hold the group together. what is he? super glue?”
THIS!
Leave bb alone, for the love of God!
Besides isn’t that umm “perfect leader” *snort* Jung Yunho’s job?
*me being sarcastic* a puppet leader is more accurate.
You mean the Jung Yunho who promest to held the TVXQ members together?? He is shit, nothing more!! Jaejoong would/ is be a perfect leader!! ♥JYJ♥
@Linda Youngwoong Jaejoong
Wow.. what you said was a bit too harsh, don’t you think?
Also side eyeing the Ayu mention. Throw her to the masses, will you? Since people already link Jae’s name to Ayu (and also the Junho factor) they’re gonna think that there’s truth in those rumours.
desperation at its best … hehehe … dream on .. dream away ..
people have been tweeting to Ayu about it. >.<
Poor woman has enough shit going on to now have to put up with this. What kind of company throws one of their most important artists under the bus like this?
Baby, if JJ a super glue, I want to glued myself to him ^_^
ohhh me too! XDD
“- He received so much shit when they split; with everyone thinking that he didn’t try enough to hold the group together. what is he? super glue?”
I find it really funny when people think and even say that. Sorry, but the last time I checked, Jae’s not even the leader of the group. The leader of the group should hold that responbility, but alas. :’)
spot on !!! 🙂
@ yurei
Obviously the “perfect” leader is too perfect to be held accountable for not doing his job. It like a manager over here in the US slacking off and the lower ranking workers are the one to get the blame and the boot right out the door (only JYJ willingly left, and for a good reason).
Agree especially about that “super glue” things
AGREE! I´m tired of all the shit and hate Jae was receiving from the other side.
Stop it already! Leave him alone!
me too really think the rumour was created by Avex to attract more supporters to HOmin and create fans’s pressure on Jaejoong who is always blamed for TVXQ breake up, I feel sad and really want to cry for my be loved Jaejoong, please the antis leave him alone~~~so dirty AVEX
Dumb question alert: why does Jaejoong keep getting blamed? I fail to see how and why he should be shouldering the blame since he’s only the lead singer -_- Please enlighten me, I’m really lost here
some of it is because he is the eldest. some of it is because he was forced into the ‘umma’ role. some of it is because he is the most popular member and hence is the first one people think of, the ‘face’ of TVXQ. some of it is because he comes across as the ‘most caring’ member (cooks food, etc). some of it is because he became the leader of JYJ. there are a lot of reasons, and the reasons are different depending on the person spouting the crap’s background. Apparently both he and Yunho got a lot of crap about it, about ‘not trying hard enough’ blah blah, and likely most of it stems from them being the eldest two in the group, therefore they are supposed to ‘take care of’ the younger members.
But I heard that they all tried, multiple times, to ‘address the issues’ with SME and they were rejected, so anyone saying they ‘didn’t try hard enough’ is just blowing smoke out their ass. They tried. SME didn’t reciprocate. JYJ reached the breaking point. For whatever reason, HM didn’t. JYJ left. HM stayed. The shit hit the fan. End of story.
@Springbok7
“Apparently both he and Yunho got a lot of crap about it, about ‘not trying hard enough’ blah blah, and likely most of it stems from them being the eldest two in the group, therefore they are supposed to ‘take care of’ the younger members.”
Yep, that about sums it up. 🙂 Yunho certainly could not have change LSM’s mind and Jaejoong, Yuchun and Junsu tried on multiple occasions. The answer was “NO to Everything.” The only option JYJ had was to leave and sue.
Unhappy campers will continue to vent, blaming JYJ for everything from ruining DBSK to the fall of the Roman Empire. Just ignore them. They are asleep at the wheel.
“Unhappy campers will continue to vent, blaming JYJ for everything from ruining DBSK to the fall of the Roman Empire.”
LOLOL! But yup i fear this is true. However, when someone, like @Kaien, asks about it in an honest attempt to gain further understanding of the situation, I’ll always do my best to clarify things so that it’s one less person getting the wrong idea or being fed misinformation etc. 😀 my small contribution to the JYJ army 😉
@springbok7
“LOLOL! But yup i fear this is true. However, when someone, like @Kaien, asks about it in an honest attempt to gain further understanding of the situation, I’ll always do my best to clarify things so that it’s one less person getting the wrong idea or being fed misinformation etc.”
That’s because you’re a kind soul. I also find myself explaining the same things again and again to people who seem to be demonstrating a desire to Wake Up. I feel like a nag sometimes, and I hope my fellow sisters here will understand and forgive my boring redundancies. I too realize that there is a LOAD of re-educating to be done once these people wake up from their SM-induced trance states.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I want Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu alone !
I want JYJ now, tomorrow and for all the coming years.
This is it ^^ !!!
me too…i want only JYJ.
AGREED!
Me too!!! Thats all I need now, and for good….
@kris Hugz! Don’t worry, JaeChunSu will always be together with us, JYJers ^^
Yep!! I want only JYJ!! Nothing else!!
Count me!!
JUST JYJ!!!
What you said!!! A++++
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the reunion
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS to your comment
Me too
NOOOOOO reunion
YESSSSS to ur comment
we love only our boys (JYJ).
¡NEVER!!! I want JYJ aas three. This is how they want to be, and this is how they’re going to stay. The past is past, and it won’t come back.
This is exactly waht I feel when i read the article´s title.
I want JYJ!
JYJ JYJ JYJ!!
JYJ all the way!
In the end, it’s JYJ. -Yoochun
I personally don’t think JYJ will be coerced or forced into going back. They know where they stand and who’s standing on their side and who isn’t. JYJ is here to stay.
LOL, they know it will cause a commotion if ppl see the name JYJ on any article, it just a big lie but ppl will be talking about AVEX and thats what they want.
OH THIS BULLS*IT! *excuse my language*
Did they really think reunion likely to be happen? really? When JYJ still has ongoing lawsuit with SME? After what JYJ has been through in 2 years? After what SM+HM+Avex said about JYJ? Avex such a lame joker.
For people who always said “always keep the faith” bla bla, you keep you faith until the judgment day and see what happen!
I keep my faith on JYJ.
LOVE THIS!!
A+++++++
TVXQ REAUNION?
ARE U DREAMING?
@hannyjyj :
REAUNION ??? excuse me,, the truth is reunion.
just watching for the next..
for now, we should do for now for loving them, support and give the best as their fans..
let them choose by theirselves…
Hahaha seriously love your comment here xD
LOL, yes, they have ongoing lawsuits in court but Avex is so forgiving that they’re giving JYJ a last chance to come back, even if Homin is not interested in doing so. ¡ROFLMAO! 😀 😀
@gigkusakit
“Did they really think reunion likely to be happen? really? ”
We ALL read the appalling timeline posted to JYJ3 a while back of AVEX’s continual attempts to thwart JYJ’s concerts and the lengths to which they went to stop them from performing, every step of the way. As much as I have researched, read and studied the progress of JYJ’s various lawsuits, even I did not realize the extent of AVEX’s despicable activities to stop JYJ in Japan.
The person who wrote this article wants to stir a hornet’s nest. Tabloids lie–this is a fact of life that everyone should know. The people reading this article and getting all crazy HERE in OUR HOME about a reunion are willfully blind children who don’t read, won’t do the research so they can know the facts and officially “know nothing” — as they have come here and said, literally said, countless times: “We as fans know nothing” – that’s a quote. If they keep buying SM product they are being duped and worse. If they come HERE and try to change minds with their thoroughly misunderstood catch phrases, they are going to go away again disappointed.
This is just incredible. Us all, the ones who have researched and read judiciously every single line on everything related to the Avex’s and SM’s lawsuits (translated by korean Majors in Human Rights who work in the ONU) know nothing. The ones who have read biaised Ot5 blog translations on TVXQ issues and haven’t the tiniest idea about the ongoing lawsuits, now have come to know much more than us. Yes yes, the birds are shooting at the rifles nowadays and the world turned upside down.
Moral of story: Everyone needs JYJ to survive. JYJ needs no one.
JYJ needs no one…but us! ^_~
^__________^
JYJ + us = one team tho tbh.
I like it. JYJ+loving fans=no one can defeat us 😉
love it!
AMEN!!!!
Amen, fly jyj spread your wing
\o/ I Agree
AAA++
This story is baseless and is being ridiculed upon by everyone though.. ^^ I agree, JYJ needs no one but us! And I don’t care if other people need JYJ to survive or not. 🙂
@Nikki “Moral of story: Everyone needs JYJ to survive. JYJ needs no one.”
More than 100 % true!! LOL!!!
COME AVEX, on your knees, And BEG ^___________^ like a dog~~ Woof
@murasaki
Hahaha!! Good one..
THIS!!
i love it
^_______________^
@nikki im so loving you
im so loving JYJ!
😀
@Nikki
***Applause!!!***
From your mouth to AVEX/SME’s ears. This fandom will continue to make the miracles for JYJ. No others need apply. Big Hug and a Kiss!
@BaF: Right back at you, Baf!!!
Big group hug, everyone!
1+ sis. I really wish they would stop using JYJ’s name for their purposes.
@Nikki, *high fives you on your comment*
When I was reading this article, that’s one of the biggest thoughts that ran through my mind.
Not going to happen, but it’s nice to hear once in a while what was DB5K.
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Let’s see the fact, shall we?
-Homin is under SM and they’ll under SM for long time (13 years contract exclude military service, anyone?)
– JYJ has established their names as JYJ. JYJ which only consist 3 members.
– I think JYJ already perfect as trio, they don’t need additional members. sorry
– JYJ decide to LEFT SM but Homin chose to STAY. See the difference?
Care to translate? 🙂
People who wanna express themselves with a different view should have the courage to say it in a common language eh?! Just saying~
Basically she saying that :
“I want DB5K to comeback together but not under SM or Avex. DB5K members are talented and handsome. There are many agencies out there who willing to work with them with better human right contract , not just some agency who only want their money. AKTF”
She have to see the fact. If Homin want to leave SM, they will leave with JYJ. Unfortunately, Homin love SM so much and they chose to stick with SM. JYJ has LEFT SM and Homin chose to STAY.
Thanks sweetie~
I just don’t understand some people. Can’t they just respect their idols’ choices?!!
I want to translate her silly comment, but seems @gigikusakit already did tht, thanks deary.
So, to those delusion ppl, open your eyes, in Bahasa Indonesia, bukalah matamu lebar-lebar nak…..Homin love SM too much until they care to ditched their beloved brothers. And you still want them back together? Oh please, give it up. They are grown up, they can make a choice. JYJ move on as JYJ, HoMin as 2vxq, what else do you want? Dont force what you want to them. It aint gonna work!
@Gigi thank u for trans. This is international blog so it should be in common language if someone want to make conversation. AKTF means always keep the faith in rules and principle of these men(jae,YC,js) till the end. They themselves explained it.How did it become reunion quote
tidak terimakasih^^ gw tidak melihat itu terjadi bahkan dalam jangka waktu yang sangat lama
i just wanna speak about the reality, not fantasy or.. ” i wish.” dan harus di ingat JYJ sudah cukup di”manusiawikan” oleh CJeS
Amen!!
amen! seems like so many people haven’t clearly know what AKTF means right? while JYJ fans very clear about it
Oh yeah indeed
I puke every time fans abuse AKTF…It never means they’re gonna be 5 again, never in the first place, never now…
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who understood what AKTF meant. =)
jangan gitu dong
gw menginginkan DBSK kembali bersama, tapi bukan berada dalam naungan SMEnt ataupun AVEX…——–>walaupun aku masih baru di dunia JYJ dan KPOP aku gak mau JYJ kembali ke DBSK…why? karena setelah ubek-ubek JYJ3 dan JYJ FILES selama 2 minggu begadang ,ku pernah baca CHANGMIN NGEHINA JYJ …astaga sahabatan selama 7-8 tahun tapi kok NGEHINA SAHABAT SENDIRI ntu namanya sahabat nusuk dari belakang tau .dan juga saat JUNSU dikeroyok sama ORANG SM …tapi YUNHO malah belain ORANG SM DI DEPAN ORANG BANYAK MALAH GAK BELAIIN JUNSU SAHABATNYA SENDIRI .ASTAGA SAHABAT MACAM APA ITU!!!!
apa kamu gak sakit hati jika sahabatmu bicara begitu di depan banyak orang…damn sakit banget tau..maw nangis pas aku liat ni dan u mau bilang kembali ke DBSK. apa kamu maw jika kamu dibegituin sahabat kamu ditusuk dari belakang gitu kamu maw……mending balikan temen daripda jadi DBSK ntuu aja waktu yang bisa nyembuhin luka dihati…
nii filenya jika kamu maw liat:
http://jyj3.net/2011/03/02/video-tvxq2-talk-about-jyj-on-%E2%80%9Cknee-drop-guru
%E2%80%9D-with-engsub/
http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/yunho-and-changmin-switch-their-stance-on-jyj/ —-> NI PALING LENGKAP
MAAF JIKA ADA KATA-KATA SAYA YANG SANGAT NYAKITIN DAN MEMBUAT KALIAN TERSINGGUNG DAN SATU LAGI KARENA JYJ JUGA MANUSIA PEACE
http://jyj3.net/2011/03/02/news-110302-tvxq2-talk-about-jyj-on-%E2%80%9Cknee-drop-guru%E2%80%9D/
gpp.. biar semua orang indonesia, terutama Yunjae Lovers ga bakalan ada lagi di dunia ini.
aku sebel banget sama yunjae.. omo. yunjae is dead many-many years ago.. tapi tetep ajah..cckck..
gpp. kita harus sama2 bikin orang indonesia ngerti semua ini!!
betul,saya jg sdh terlanjur mencintai mereka bertiga ,jd lupakan berlima.love so much only jyj.
Maaf JJ_SARANGHAE, boleh tau kenapa kamu merasa mereka harus tetap berlima?
Sorry JJ_SARANGHAE, may I know why do you feel they need to stay as 5?
Apakah mencintai mereka berarti harus terpaku dengan apa yg terjadi di masa lalu?
Does loving them mean that you have to stick to the past?
Bukankan mencintai itu harusnya membiarkan yang dicintai berbahagia?
Doesn’t love mean that you let them be happy?
Bila mereka berbahagia sebagai 2 kelompok, kenapa kamu tidak?
If they are happy with being 2 groups, why are you not?
———-
Why my Indonesian sounds so funny?
@Jae&JYJ/HoMinforever, good job!
I like the second article.
“The article goes on to state, “While the reunion of TVXQ is something that many fans are waiting, the small possibility of this actually happening is an indicator of Avex’s desperation,” hinting that Avex’s recent lack of success may be reason for pursuing such a unlikely project.”
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Avex HAD them and threw them away. Now this is just pathetic.
not only did AVEX through them away.. they kicked them like wounded puppies blocking every activity and defaming them publicly.. blaming Jaejoong on twitter etc.. etc.. now that they are not selling well .. they’ll put up this shit up ! and the most infuriating part is that some people will buy this lie and join BE membership hoping for front seats on that baseless rumor.. (even involve Hayumi’s friendship with Jaejoong.. this makes me errrr)
how come they aren’t selling well?
didn’t they said that those two had breaking the records and bla bla bla?
the concert’s ticket are sold out and bla bla bla?
Well, as the articles said, Jaejoong has always been the most popular one out of DBSK5. Also, their revenues probably doesn’t cover their expenses for other groups or in DBSK!’s promotions (and who knows what other shady side business :cough:blockingJYJ:cough: they are up to), therefore low profit.
That’s what I always want to stress to fans. Groups might sell hundreds of thousands of albums, but they are not making much money because they didn’t recover their expenses (or their boss takes all of the profit). It doesn’t matter if DBSK!, SJ, or SNSD is outselling JYJ and breaking all the records because at the end of the day, JYJ has practically zero expenses (in promotions and whatnot) and therefore huge profit XD
@jaime
thanks yo.
🙂 so “at the end of the day, JYJ has practically zero expenses (in promotions and whatnot) and therefore huge profit XD” 🙂
“hinting that Avex’s recent lack of success may be reason for pursuing such a unlikely project.”
I don’t think avex is unsuccessful. Isn’t exile is under that label? Exile is BIG in JAPAN. Bigger than any of KPOP group there. Seeing the article came from a not/never reliable source makes me laugh coz EVERYONE is drawn with it! Come on people. This is a joke.
Exile is NOT under Avex, they use Avex for releasing albums, not management company. so the money Avex would get from Exile is not that big as you think.
@ammy I thought EXILE release their million seller album/single/dvd thru avex? How can avex not get HUGE profit out of that million sells? As far as I know EXILE is ALWAYS on the top 5 seller (specially their album sales)artist is Japan.
Actually, you earn very little money from CD releases, even if you sell hunderts of thousands of them, the profit after deducting all the expenses is low. The real money lies elsewhere – CFs, merchendise etc. you will earn at least 10x more netto then with just CDs. It means that EXILE management agency is raking in money, not AVEX.
@nikhapi yes this is a joke that people don’t laugh anymore
@zan I smell something is fishy.. having Homin’s concert at hand in Japan… hmmmm..
@seobehrin
Yes, they had JYJ, then threw them to the curb! And like Jen says, they kicked them like puppies. The three of them stood on the stage at A-Nation, knowing about the coming suspension and STILL gave their ALL. Continuing to allow rumor-ladened articles like this to float around when you know there is not a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening, not only makes you desperate, it makes you PATHETIC!
AVEX ~~~ yes, your financial situation is lousy. But you know what, them’s the breaks my dearies. Chickens coming home to roost and all that. Lady Karma is as rightgeous as it gets. She knows how to apply the payback. SHE is my IDOL.
Maxie, here is how I envison this should all play out…stay with me here, dude:
At the foot of the Tokyo Tower on a blisterly cold day, there is Masato Matsuura (sp) kneeling holding up a sign that reads — I am a supreme A**H***. I treated the members of JYJ like the dirt beneath my fingernails. I continually try making their lives miserable even when they are being generous to the Japanese people who suffered during the earthquake and tsunami. I now find my company in dire financial straits and NEED JYJ to join with the other members of Tohoshinki to make money for my company. I humbly BEG the members of JYJ to help me.
Now Max, here comes the fun part. I sincerely hope for once in their young lives, as sweet, generous, thoughtful, and loyal as they are, they tell you to Kiss Their A***es, and leave you kneeling there like the jackass you are. The likelihood of this happening, I know is not very strong. But this is my dream and I’m going to enjoy it. So take your rumors and shove them!
Hahaha!! Mommy Hen !! You were naughty today .. Saying asses all the time!! But It’s been a while the words not “appearing” on JYJ3 anymore..Me – liking!!
Ok Sweetums, cover your ears and act like you didn’t hear all right? 🙂 I was trying to be discrete, looks like it didn’t work. For the most part, we do try and look out for our babies. Love you! Have a good day.
i missed my MOMMA!!!! *squishy huggy*
@BAF
I agree with your POV, smart and naughty Mommy-hen.
Last two paragraphs are music to my ears. I’m grinning like the Cheshire cat!
@BAF,
I love it!!! I want to be there this dirtbag human named matsuura do the a** kissing part…kekeke
Uh. No. Poor ayu-chan has her own personal issues to sort out what with her divorce and all.
“While the news of a possible reunion is being met with enthusiasm by fans all over the world” eh this might be true for me 2 years ago but nah, no thank you, both groups are too different now, personally I don’t see how they could work together as a group again, it’d take ages for them to be able to mesh ~harmoniously~ again. Idk how ppl with common sense and logic believe in that tabloid -.- where were they this past 2 years…
Yes definitely people should see our trio rocking the world, although I don’t follow the duet,I think each are trying their best. Time need for them even to contact again,it just cannot turn back into harmonious dbsk in a blik.
Even if it were to happen. I’d still prefer to just keep it JYJ there is no need to reunite anything I want to see JYJ to continue to evolve as artists.
me too,
i like people call JYJ artists, not idols
They was suffering a lot from the past 2 years. Anti fans and haters don’t care for what they try and blame them as betrayers or whoevers, but now they step by step succeed their career music and their position, and then want them to reunit. It’s ridiculous!!! are they dreaming in a reality???
I know how amazing DB5K was but I became a fan of JYJ after they broke up. It’s silly saying because they broke up, I had a chance to know who’s Micky and then JYJ and love them, and to know how talented they are as the true artists. Also, JYJ’s chances to try in several different areas musical, drama, song writer, composer, director…so they deserve to be called artists, not idols anymore. Everything they got today, not because of slave Ent or agency, it’s because of their true talents, their patient and their endurance.
like me.agree that i become their fan after they broke up.
I also like micky first, then jyj.
I respect their decision.
good luck for our boys
If JYJ call themselves idols then they are idols. Junsu and Jaejoong have addressed this before. They are not ashamed of being idols and believe that it is important to be a different and better kind of idol from what people are used to.
Yes I want them to spread the wing of artist and fly freely
I would really rather not. While they were great together, it is the past. It should remain the past. Too much has happened since. To put it simply, I believe the three is now riding the bullet train whereas the other two are still stuck on a horse carriage. And AVEX? Trying to play the saviour after failing to squash them like worms? No sirree….
I always knew Jaejoong was a very powerful man but clearly I didn’t know to what extent. I had no idea he was in charge of the lives of 4 ADULT human beings who are perfectly capable of making THEIR OWN decisions using THEIR OWN minds and following THEIR OWN wishes. Clearly, Jaejoong is boss but who didn’t know that? I’m about to roll my eyes into a concussion because of the stupidity and utter disrespect of these so called “fans” and “moral human beings”.
Well, I’m trying to be more positive so i’ll add a little something to my comment. Damn my boys looked good! YooChun that hair in the first picture. *twitches*
One of the few posts here that actually drew a smile to my face ;-D I always have to laugh at all fans who claim to know/seems to think they know exactly what the five boys think and feel and what is going on in their heads and hearts. Things like “keep HoMin and JYJ only” stuff , they are better off alone” etc. Not only are you disrespecting the boys but the fandom with these attitudes. Their hearts have always been with and will be with DBSK and each other even through hard times. Lets hope 2012 can be a peaceful and positive year for all parties involved and another stepping stone for a better and brighter future.
oh btw. I realize this post ended up a bit weird here I don´t mean a reply to “you you” in the sence that what you wrote I did like, and it made me smile (in a nice way not bad way) but when I was saying the rest of my blabbering, that was a different topic directed at “you” as in the general public of fans ;-D and I totally agree with you for Mirotic era, oh man it was one of the best ever! Jaejoong with epic looks here 🙂
hmmmm…….
ur comment drew smile to my face too…. not only smile but laugh too.. XDDD
I’m not sure if I understand what you’re trying to say 【・ヘ・?】
But, when you mentioned “Their hearts have always been with and will be with DBSK and each other even through hard times”, aren’t you also “claim to know/seems to think they know exactly what the five boys think and feel and what is going on in their heads and hearts”??
Hmm…………………………………..
I couldn’t figure out what her stance was so I just left it alone, lol!
@Seobehrin
IKR~ I was confused too. Haha
LOL sorry for the confusion guys I should not post when it´s past 07am and I haven´t been sleeping for 48h I guess . Do feel perfectly free to post and say “what the bleep did you mean?” ;-D I guess my point was, having read so many views on this tonight, and some pretty ugly and hateful, I got sick and tired of fan wars and ppl bashing each other left right centre. And no I don´t claim to know exactly what the guys think in their heads. Not even half. Maybe I expressed myself wrongly. I just feel that current JYJ as they are called, deep down in their hearts always has and always will consider themselves as DBSK as that is actually how they got to where they are in the first place. And I do feel that they would be happy to be united again one day (but that is only my personal viewpoint) however there would be issues to work out if such a thing was to happen, that´s all I´m saying.
Yeah….she lost me there too…
@Zsuzsanna Jung
Hmmmm Looks like you did not add any clarity… it really seems like you are saying the same thing that you said in your first post. Again… it seems like you claim to know what they are thinking and feeling…
You said… “…And I do feel that they would be happy to be united again one day (but that is only my personal viewpoint)”
How is your comment any different from the comments of other fans you say you “laugh at” who claim to know or think they know what the five boys are thinking??
@Zsuzsanna Jung
“I always have to laugh at all fans who claim to know/seems to think they know exactly what the five boys think and feel and what is going on in their heads and hearts.”
“Their hearts have always been with and will be with DBSK and each other even through hard times.”
“I just feel that current JYJ as they are called, deep down in their hearts always has and always will consider themselves as DBSK as that is actually how they got to where they are in the first place. And I do feel that they would be happy to be united again one day (but that is only my personal viewpoint)…”
Are you getting the laughably contradictory inconsistencies in your very own statements there @Zsuzsanna, or do I really have to point them out to you?!
I really like your comments. LOL!
It is indeed surprising that these people who claim to be “fans” believe that Jaejoong (for being the oldest or the “face” of DB5K) thinks for all 5 of them and have no qualms putting blame and pressure on three young men for the way two companies unethically treat their idols/artists/workers. With “fans” like that who needs enemies?
@GBCWAPH
“I hope they stop writing these pointless reunion articles“.
I agree with this netizen LOLOL!
That one comment summed up my view entirely, lol.
Avex whats your next gimmick?!hmmm….reunion of Voltes 5?!lol!
LOL, I prefer that news…Reunion of Voltes 5!
PANALO! but can we start with BIOMEN first please?????
sigh i was so excited when i saw the title.. TT____TT i can only dream about this day.
Keep dreaming~
and you can stop being rude
@ethereal
“and you can stop being rude :/”
We do not enjoy comments such as yours here. Please go to AllKpop.com where personal slams are the order of the day. They gather no impact or interest for us here.
@ethereal
Oh, she, like you people, always ‘dream’ of the day they come back.
So I’m just telling her to do what you guys like to do: “Keep dreaming.”
No?
So I should say, “Stop dreaming!”?
Man, you guys are hard to please…
Yeah, you can keep dreaming. Dreaming.
avex can dream whatever that they want…just dont include my babies in that dream…leave them alone..
honey. me too. i am definitely jyj biased. but db5k was unstoppable. and we could actually see them on TV,
With that one sentence, you’re refusing all that JYJ has done for the past 2 years.
Just great! *roll-eyes*
And just for the sake of seeing them on tv, you want them to return to that hellhole.
That’s exactly what most selfish OT5 feel.
If that’s the case, I rather NOT see them on tv. In any case, it’s the broadcasters’ and public’s lose.
JYJ is too good for that.
but i think JYJ genuinely wants to reunite just, not under SM?
hasnt jaejoong said that it wasn’t a problem among the members but the management?
That was then, this is now.
@blackminisharpie
Jae made that comment like ….. 1 year++ back?!
Things changed.
Esp, after your oppas infamous interviews.
Wake up~
@shadow
LOL so heartless??? i dont think i would be able to forget my friends after spending about 10 years with them and struggling to the top together.
well anyway. whatever the outcome i hope JYJ is happy! 😀
its a new year, i hope for another smooth year!
@blackminisharpie
Heartless is when you talk bad about your members whom you have been with for 10 years.
Heartless is when you deny knowing your members whom you have been living with for 10 years, that they intend to sue your company.
Heartless is when you call your brothers whom you have been with for 10 years, an animal.
Heartless is when you refused to meet up with your member whom you have been with for 10 years, when he purposely flew back to Korea using his 1 day off.
Need I quote more???
@shadow
… uhm ok.. (Y) .___.
“but i think JYJ genuinely wants to reunite just, not under SM? hasnt jaejoong said that it wasn’t a problem among the members but the management?” – this info is so out of date. The update info is Jaejoong only wants them to be friends again.
yeah i really liked their songs especially the japanese ones like bolero and doushite… TT____TT i really want to hear their ballads live! 😥
I think it wont happen again….
@blackminisharpie You can take out your TXXQ5’s old songs and watch the old videos as much as you want.You can cry your heart on every damm single days since your refusal to accept them as the 3 letters words J-Y-J. Poor you~~ pat pat….We JYJers will happily support them as JYJ and their growth as a long-term artists and not idols.
Yeah you can hear it on your dream or well at least youtube will do.
guys…. why are you so serious sheesh, songs are songs i like all good songs regardless of the singer… its not like i can’t accept they are JYJ… i’ve been to their fanmeetings and stuff…and i genuinely like them .___.
@ajan , you mean you can “see” them on youtube right? Well, I can see TVXQ5 on youtube, haha~~
Don’t be so hard on her ladies. Those ballads I doubt will it sound the same if they sing now.legend are better not to repeat if is not going to be better.oh they can sing in their 50s as reunion party,who know
@black—It seems like you remembered what Jaejoong said that “there is no problem among members.”Do you happen to remember what Yunchun said:”The wound is too deep now.” and Junsu said:”the people were there before are no longer there anymore.” Hello,just please wake up.If it is just for the sake of good songs of TVXQ,just listen to them all you want.However for me these songs died when TVXQ broke up and especially when I found out what the 2 did to their fellow members.Remember the song”Heart,Mind and soul”,they can’t sing together anymore,because the 2 lost it all.
Jaejoong is always kind to friends even thes who betrayed him~~ please my dear JJ be good and kind for yourslf too^^
Meh, in the past, I really wanted DBSK5 to reunite outside of SME, but after everything that’s been said and done over the past few years, I don’t think that’s likely. And as a JYJ fan, I wouldn’t wish it on them.
Also, I think SM would be able to continue blocking them even if they reunited as five under an independent label. The problem isn’t that they’re three (although it did split fandom), it’s that they’re trying to go at it alone and are championing a different kind of idol agency relationship. They’re showing other idols that there’s an alternative to slave contracts.
A+
Keep dreaming till this dream cease because it will. And then you realize you have alreay move on.
now who is greedy in here…….they keep bark and bark about this useless matter every time they need a benefit from our boys
there are no possibility for TVXQ reunited…is it has clear enough ? when those two take a decision to ‘protect’ the name of TVXQ
*shakes the head*
Dude, if this is some hype tactic because HOMIN are promoting and touring in Japan this year, what little respect I had for the duo has gone straight out the door.
Don’t use JYJ to help sell your albums and your concert tickets!
tsk. stupid stans live in selfish world
Whoever did this calculated move clearly did it to the benefit of Avex, and even though there’s a chance that Homin might get something from this – reasonably so, because their concerts and promotions are tied with Avex – I think we still shouldn’t bring Homin into the discussion.
@wicked angel: agreehh!!
Exactly my thought. If this is some kind of a tactic, then it’s definitely the lousiest thing that Avex could do, out of desperation I suppose.
If that is a tactic it’ll undoubtedly go up in flames like that time when 2PM was saying Jay was coming back when it really wasn’t….I listen to 2pm and all but I was a bit disappointed too. lol. >=P
You still had respect? LOL… k k, now I’m just being mean. no no? Or am I just being exactly like Homin?
This article is bringing so much fights between JYJ and Homin on Allkpop, I cant stand it -_-
Not JYJ and HM.
It’s the fight between reality and fantasy.
Anyway, I don’t even wanna visit that place.
yup u right it’s more about a reality and a fantasy
in my opinion people who live in a fantasy world never gonna wake up from their own world because they are scared to face the fact that always stand up greatly in front of them and it also same with a people who always look in to their past which full of glory but forget to see the life that they have now……
is my opinion lil bit harsh ? i hope not ^^
No dear~ some people need a brick on their heads to wake them up.
“some people need a brick on their heads to wake them up.” — *yawn* r u talking about me? *sleepystretch*
@Catherine and @Shadow
Thanks for covering it for me in just your few lines above. I didn’t want to say anything because I used to hang out a lot at akp and the fan wars on there could get pretty disgusting and I was disgusting when I put myself in them. It really seems more publicity opportunism for publicity’s sake than a fan service. “Get everybody going and see if anyone buys our stuff” is the vibe I’m getting from this so-called “headline”. It sounds more like a line that has come out someone’s other end. especially after everything that’s been said and done publicly to block JYJ with no mention of any kind of reconciliation with them or apology to them.
@Shadow puts it where it is: “It’s the fight between reality and fantasy.” All the stuff SM and AVEX thought they could get away with when they thought they had the power has exposed the Wizard of Oz to be a little old man behind a curtain. And the real deal has turned out to be JYJ: the music, the performances and the continued love and support of fans. TVXQ5 is a memory I shall always, always cherish and a group to this day I listen to and love. JYJ is my present and the future. It’s that simple.
” TVXQ5 is a memory I shall always, always cherish and a group to this day I listen to and love. JYJ is my present and the future. ”
Same here. 🙂
same with me 😀
TRUE TRUE TRUE
love it ‘jyj is my present and the future’
we all know the past is very precious and important but we’ve to look up to the future, to the new one and JYJ opens a new history for their music. If JYJ’s still DB5K, they are not 1st Korean group performed in Spain, Germany, and even 1st Asian group has concert in Peru, and Chile. The 1st group CANNOT appear in their national tv or radio, but in foreign country
so i think, it’s so stupid when argue again because of this issue
@grlex. Past glory is to cherish,present is to live.The perfect Gods of east become human who sweat,bleed and do everything from scratch,I plan to walk long way with these adorable young men
Typo*** admirable young men ,
im so tired with this news.. poor cassie..
I do feel bad for them too. They are giving them false hopes.
This must be just a rumor. I don’t thik either side will seriously talking about reunion or whatsoever, while the lawsuit is clearly still on progress (o_O)
Hmmm, is avex really that desperate because of low sales on ballads lately? Well, avex should’ve thanked themselves, for throwing JYJ down..
I don’t need to read this shit
I’m tired of it
I’m sad and angry about the fact that Avex is playing with the fan’s feelings!!!!!! I’m a DBSK fan(now I support the 2 groups) but this is not correct!!!!!! It’s almost impossible the reunion!!!!! JYJ can’t forget all the problems!!!!!! It has been 2 years of fights, demands, Media blockings!!!!!! *sigh*
*sorry for my English*
This came after AVEX
reported low sales of their ballad
tracks recently. » This! So the point is JYJ and HoMin only as a commodity to increase sales rite? Just go to hell AVEX!!!
i love DBSK but no…just no. This isnt happening anytime soon…i prefer to have my JYJ, thank u.
Can you bring back someone whom you already killed? I think not.
And i think wound can not be easily fix with some sugar coated words or just a “sorry”..
Wake up people, we are talking about a company who sees us only as their cash cows.. They dont care about us…
Do u want to be a part of that… I won’t..
Me neither…
Savior my ass
Best comment on the page.
that’s IT!
+1
Comment of the day! 😀
ROFL –yup that covers it.
A******
WIN!
Hahahaha ups*
@nichie…”Savior my ass”
…ditto…I’d rather see Junsu’s ass anytime anywhere!^^
hahaha…XD like this!
LOL, what she said. 🙂
LOL, exactly
*pressing Thumb-Up button*
¡ROFLMAOOOOO! ¡¡You’re damn right @Nichie!! 🙂
Both AVEX and SM are like a desperate GF who needs their BF to comeback! because no one else can give her the MONEY!! i have to save my baby Chun’s NOW.. jaeharem, Xiahpwas u better keep JJ and Junsu Now. so no one will snatch them out… lol
Don’t worry, we got them secure!
yeah! good Job @Seohbehrin dear.. 🙂 they are better with US.. 😀
me lock JJ in my place and JS in my other place now, lol
you are very greedy dear.. cckckckkck.. bdw, Can you share Junsu with me? ^__~
Oh no problem @putrihs, I always wanna share, incld Jae, but only for 1 minute, kekekeke
I will bring my spatula and pan to knock those asses who want to snatch our boys away
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when AVEX actually approached JYJ with this BS. O.o
@서베린 (@seobehrin)
Do you think they even had the moxy to approach JYJ face to face? I don’t. I bet this was their best idea of an approach. They’re sending out this little missile to see what response they can get. Even if it’s something negative they’ll be rubbing their grimy little mitts together, snuffling amongst themselves that JYJ still knows they exist. So pathetic. They let SM push them around, but there was no quid pro quo. All of a sudden they find themselves having been the lackey with nothing to show for it which means they basically melted their relationship with JYJ for no reason whatsoever. Talk about rotten ethics and even worse business acumen. These guys are going broke for a whole lot of reasons that JYJ don’t have a thing to do with.
YES!
“They’re sending out this little missile to see what response they can get.”
Anti-aircraft fire and frying pans ready!
AVEX: come, come to me, if you dare!! You and SME are my forever target!
It seems to me someone puts this rumor out about twice a year just to get everyone stirred up. It looks like it’s probably Avex, but who knows. Thinking suspiciously, I would expect we’ll get another article in a few weeks blaming JYJ’s agency as the cause that the five can’t work out an agreement. Of course, that would be total misinformation, and probably be good enough to indicate that it’s Avex misbehaving again. Just saying’…
In the meantime, JYJ have their own lives, vacations, music, money, loyal fans, etc. Tough-ola for SM and Avex. They will just continue to work HoMin to a powder.
During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’, thus rendering the planned collaboration. —–> =*=????? WTF
yup. heard bout this issue…shud b ayu close the end stage…but koda kumi closed it..
butthurt over avex for this. i mean come on! it’s ayu who’be been closing d satge like 4eva!!!!!
Whatever Avex, just enjoy your 2hoshinki,
JYJ has no time for reunion : Yoochun is starting his drama, Junsu on his musical, Jae is busy screening his next project, busy for their concert tours, preparation for next albums, promotions even if they are blocked, shopping for next cars and houses and so on, I think JYJ is just too busy to entertain any reunion talk.
*high five!*
Double Hi-Five!!!
triple hi5 !!
I’m with you on this… XD
shopping for next cars and houses and so on, I think JYJ is just too busy to entertain any reunion talk.——–> THIS
*APIR*
😀
great comment!!
“shopping for next cars”—cool!!
JUST NO!!!!!!!!!!
oh please..no… andweee!!!!
just leave JYJ alone and let them perform in Japan freely .. and i’ll be perfectly fine for the rest of my life even without reunion.. ;P
just reading the title “AVEX to act as the savior and reunite TVXQ?”
should it be JYJ to act as savior of the downfall of Avex?bwahahahaha!!!!
JYJ are heading for the right direction and don’t even want to think of them going back to the enemy. They wish our boys will give up so easily on what they have struggle to have now. Keep on dreaming AVEX cause that will happen only there. JYJ FOR EVER AND FIGHTING!
This is all so infuriating. Avex has treated JYJ so badly and now this kind of article comes up
BUT now I have a question. Are Homin doing that badly. I thought that they were doing ok since Japanese fans are so loyal. I don;t pay any attention to them.
Sigh…..how much more can JYJ stand. I hope this years they will finally receive the justice that they deserve.
I must confess that I truly dislike Homin. WHy?.
Because of them TVXQ means nothing to me anymore. I cannot even enjoy their old songs which were so beautiful. I have been…..well I was a fan of TVXQ since the beginning and now all those memories are just gone. What I miss the most is Jaejoong’s voice in those songs, I cannot enjoy Jaejoong’s voice, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear the name. They took that away by keeping the name. I know It may anger some OT5 fans, but that is how I feel.. Now when I hear TVXQ, it means Homin and only them. I feel robbed.
Praying that this year it will be JYJ best year ever. Whatever happens. I will always support JYJ.
Reading your comment I wonder why we never really address just how much DB5K also relied on a loyal fan base (same like any other idol group) through emotional manipulation. I don’t think they ever needed to but it seems to be SME strategy just like the YunJae, Homin, Yoosu pairings and all those questionable stories like Yunho’s poison drink. I kinda wonder/doubt that story actually. The scripted talkshows, the fanmeetings, the cassie “myths” about all 5 of them really……EVERYTHING that constitutes the experience. Indoctrinated feed from the SME machine. It becomes less about the music and more about the idols.
“He is so handsome. If he ever finds a girlfriend I’ll be so hurt~”
“OMG I’ll punch that bitch! How dare she be rude to my Yoochun!!!!”
“He is the best singer in all of Korea!”
“He never had plastic surgery! He is 100% natural!”
“They are the best group in all of Korea! No one comes close! They write their own songs!!!! They are true artists.”
“This pairing was ALWAYS real!!! etc etc
These are some of the things I’ve read about DBSK, JYJ, Homin etc throughout the years.
You sound like an indoctrinated cassie whose “reality” has been shattered. Why would you be bitter listening to some songs? I don’t like Homin but that doesn’t mean I “feel robbed” when I listen to DB5K songs. Those were good songs from a talented group. I’ll probably have some people disagree but just how rational is it to think this way? Not much and there are a lot of overly-emotionally invested fans. “We are women” doesn’t seem like a valid excuse. I really like and respect JYJ but I try to keep things in perspective as best as I can. Crying because of a musical group that I’ve never met and probably never will meet (no matter how much people tell me otherwise) just doesn’t sound or feel right.
@ MIA2
thank you !.. I so agree with you on this !
@MIA2:
“I really like and respect JYJ but I try to keep things in perspective as best as I can. Crying because of a musical group that I’ve never met and probably never will meet (no matter how much people tell me otherwise) just doesn’t sound or feel right.”
it all boils down to this. yes they are amazing and wonderful singers and do all kinds of great stuff, but this is the bottom line. Too bad too many fans can’t keep everything in perspective. They will never take the place of our spouses or partners. In the “real world” we have our relationships and as much as we like to joke/pretend about it, when WE are sick, when WE need a lift, when WE need help, it will be those spouses and partners and friends who give us the help we need. Forgetting/ignoring that, for anyone, is the start of ~real~ delusion. Fantasy is all well and good, but don’t sacrifice real life for it, at the end of the day real life is still here, and fantasy goes poof.
@beth
Totally agree with you.One of my fav song was Heart,mind and soul,It just feels so different to listen now because the 2 lost their heart,mind and soul.The easy path they choose,the coments they made on TV,the kissing ass act to SM they are still doing,all these are done while knowing and seeing their fellow members tough time caused by SM and Avex.I feel regret for a while,but not anymore.JYJ is getting stronger and better as artists,they fulfill my dream with their kind hearts,seeing them live well is more than enough for me.
I’d say no for this reunion because it’s only for the sake of money, for Avex’s profit.
Reunion might be a possible thing but that’s not going to happen in the near future.
“During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho.”
I had no idea about this, oh well, what to say? I just don’t know them anymore.
Probably the obstacles for a reunion may not come from the JYJ’s side. Just saying.
Tohoshinki doesn’t need a savior.
Each one of the five made their own decision to go different ways. People NEED to respect that.
And if they ever reunited, people should respect that too.
It is their life, and ultimately, we don’t and /shouldn’t/ have any say in what they do with it. They aren’t our slaves. That’s why JYJ escaped from SM in the first place.
And most importantly, tabloids and other news articles need to stop stirring things up. Avex certainly isn’t any savior. They just use the names of the ones they’ve already forsaken for attention.
Yes,Sm and Avex are there just for money,nothing else.They don’t care about their artists and definitly not about fans.
The only thing worth discussing from this article is “the most popular member in Japan is JYJ’s Jaejoong.” Everything else is just fillers, bits and pieces and regurgited in this article. Everything that is in the article has been said before, speculated before, analyzed before billion times, so on and so forth.
Everyday we see pictures of the five boys doing their thing. I look at pictures carefully, and I see where happiness, content, satisfaction reside, thats’s the most important thing in life ( according to Daebaksama’s book).
I agree with you here what you said, this is a nice sane normal post. Reading half of the comments here makes me go like…. I need a head ache pill, a glass of water and a shower… or an eye rinse. I wish fans would stop hating each other or trying to second guess the boys or pitch them against each other. What can these people possibly hope to gain by acting so psycho fanatic and hateful I wonder. Respect yourselves, fans, and the artists you claim to love most of all, because they sure wouldn´t want fans getting at each others throats.
I don´t see any hate darling. It´s just that people here don´t need nor want DB5K´s reunion.
They are JYJers now. They are not cassies, nort OT5.
hmmm….I would argue that it isn’t about what I want or what you want or what every person who visits this site wants, it is about what JYJ wants and if JYJ ever reunites with Homin (unlikely but you can’t fully discard the possibility) you’ll have to suck it up or find some other group to support.
I really liked DBSK and I really want to see how far JYJ takes their new-found freedom. I can’t wait to hear their new albums and see their new projects and I’ll support as much as I reasonably can (like a poor folk’s patron of the arts lol) but that doesn’t mean I have a right to place my desires on them. I admit I might be a bit bummed and skeptical if JYJ returns to Homin (likely under a duo-management because I’ll question their sanity if they go back under SME) but it will be their decision because as we have said many times in JYJ3, it is THEIR lives not ours. Let us not start back-paddling now. If it was their right to “leave” Homin then its their right to “return” if they want to work with them ever again AND if Homin/SME agrees of course.
“It´s just that people here don´t need nor want DB5K´s reunion”
Why would you NEED for a musical group to get together? That isn’t a need that it is a want which is totally selfish.
P.S: The only “scenario” that I would applaud for JYJ going back to SME is if JYJ own the majority shares AND are the CEO and chairmen of that company. Wouldn’t that be freaking awesome?!!!
And very sorry for the long replies. I talk too much.
Avex, *SMH* ……just jump to the cliff by yourself will you?
ah, kekekekeke
Hahahaha… hi babe xD
na hola @baby…..join this interresting convo ne??
Very much ^^ it’s been a long time I didnt laugh for a joke like this ^^
I wont ever agree, i lost my trust with avex and i love my boys too much that i dont want to see my boys being hurt agin,
Furthemore another tie with sm? Hell no, enough with avex and sm
I’m sorry first If My word will make trouble.
For me, DB5K is more than anything, JYJ or HoMin, I keep them in My Heart, and I gladly hear that They’ll back as 5.
Because I Know They still Love each other.
But, If we Look for reality, I Know that This News * about avex will be saviour to get 5 of them back* is Tottaly Rumours.
Some Place In My Heart hope that This’s will be happened, but Not In Avex, Or Sment hands.
JYJ already has a very hard time, due to cancellation, blocked everywhere, and etc.
They already has their way to get their dream. And they work hard for it.
I still hurt when I remember what Sment do or avex do past to them *JYJ*. And I Can’t forget it.
what I want, is they back as 5, with HoMin get Out from sment and avex.
And I’m sorry If My word is weird, because english not my native language.
I Do believe there’s reason why HoMin still @ sment and I do believe what JYJ said is true about sment.
If you said, I’m OT5 yes, I’m OT5.
And what I want To say that, this’s Avex plan’s and they *homin* do nothing about it.
I Know that it’s your choice to believe or not, to hate or not, to angry or not , about homin position.
But, all I can say that, Avex is the main subjet to hate. And HoMin do nothing about the rumours.
I’m sorry If there’s word that make all of you uncomfortable. I know that this is JYJ fans site, but I can’t help to come here everytime.
Because I Love JYJ so Much, even sometimes I saw a few comment makes me hurt. But it’s ok, I Know that’s not your fault,that’s my fault.
once again, I’m sorry for my word if there’s any word which make all of you mad or pissed off.
I just want say,what I think.
“Because I Know They still Love each other.”
This may have been true at one point, but so much has happened. The relationship’s got to be pretty badly damaged at this point.
@서베린 (@seobehrin)
Just ‘tween you and me my heart hurts the most for Jae. I have no idea why some of the things that have been reported and seen to come out of Yunho’s mouth came out of Yunho’s mouth. I would like to think he was somehow manipulated or that his own hurt and perhaps some resentment turned his feelings temporarily to bitterness. But I think you, @seobehrin, and I both were on an article when one of our JYJ3 family described an incident, then also produced the article, wherein Jae describes having one day off in a month and sending word to HoMin to please meet with him. He traveled from Japan to Korea with only enough time to meet with them before having to board a plane again that very night and return to Japan. Now it was never clear to me what the response was from HoMin, if they had a conflicting schedule or what, but it was clear that Jaejoong went and was stood up. He was so upset by it that he talked about it. Not to mention that Jae has also been reported to say publicly that it is time to see each other again, that he wanted to see his two brothers. He has openly blushed and smiled shyly, but hopefully when Yunho’s name has been shouted out at him by fans at concerts and press conferences. But there has been near to nothing coming back to him by way of showing him he has a reason to go on hoping.
You couldn’t separate Micky and Xiah with a crowbar, but Jae and Yunho both had leadership roles and responsibilities so perhaps the decisions they made were made based on those responsibilities –we may never know. But still I see a loneliness in Jae that I don’t sense in Micky and Junsu. And my point is, I agree with you. There was a time I thought Jae wouldn’t be able to give-up the deep bond between him and Yunho, but how much hurt can you take piled up atop the day to day loneliness? I realize I am conjecturing all over the place here and if I get it in the neck for doing that, I deserve it. I think I’ve just wanted to say this, is all.
I don’t really believe there was an especially deep bond between him and Yunho, but from what I’ve seen, Jae truly cherished all of his members. I think he took the split harder than anyone, and I think he continues to take it hard and not move on as well as the rest of them have.
There was no such “deep bond”. If anything, there was less of a “noticeable” bond b/t Jae and Yunho compared to the bond seen and felt between Jae and the other members. I for one has never understood the whole “Yunjae” thing.
“But still I see a loneliness in Jae that I don’t sense in Micky and Junsu. ”
Er. I’m sorry, but you don’t see loneliness within Micky and Junsu? It’s there. I sense it in Yoochun, harder for Junsu because he’s just so optimistic, but it’s still there. I can say though, that if we’re just going to talk based on conjectures, that they’re happier now than they were. More satisfied and more content, I’d say.
Also, ‘bond’? If that bond was as strong as you claim, Yunho would’ve stepped forward and joined with JYJ by now. But he’s still in SME, so I guess that bond wasn’t as strong as you claim it to be.
As for the two who have stayed with their old “master” my theory is not a very nice one. I think it’s fear that’s kept them where they are. JYJ are all three capable writers and composers. They have also all three developed amazing individual careers, but the other two… not so much. When it got down to it the two who remained hadn’t proved to be as confident in their individual talents and ready to face the challenges that JYJ have faced. JYJ right away had songs ready for a new album. The other two were on hiatus while the old “master” tried to figure out what to do next. JYJ was cutting a brilliant swath across the US while the old “master” was scrounging for an image to salvage its reputation as an idol maker.
Faith in what you do and who you are starts with the ability to do and having a concrete idea or ideal of who you are or who you want to develop yourself to be. I don’t know that the two who remained had any such faith in themselves.
Sensing loneliness? I guess we all see different things because I don’t see it. I saw that they were upset about their situation and that things did not end as stellar as they would have liked with Homin but I wouldn’t exaggerate. Did you guys know that there is scientific proof that people do recover with time after a tragedy in their lives? And I mean a REAL tragedy like….your husband died in a horrific car crash or your 9 year old daughter died of terminal cancer. So…ummm….why would this be any different? About Jae, sweet Jae, wouldn’t you also be sad if your friends stood you up? How does that correlate with any intrinsic loneliness?
Please don’t misunderstand me. These three men have gone through a rough time and they are obviously not going to be 100% peachy-keen but why exactly are people insisting that they are depressed and lonely? ESPECIALLY with Jaejoong. Yes he is a very loving and sensitive young man but that doesn’t mean (excuse my French) that he is a pushover pussy. Homin aren’t the beginning and end of JYJ’s existence. Life DOES move on. For everyone except those who don’t want to let go and well there is no blind man as worse as the one who doesn’t want to see reality.
@Mia2
“These three men have gone through a rough time and they are obviously not going to be 100% peachy-keen but why exactly are people insisting that they are depressed and lonely? ESPECIALLY with Jaejoong. ”
lol Good point, girlfriend. Our Social Butterfly lonely?? Hardly. He’s exactly as solitary as he wants to be, exactly as busy with his never-ending supply of friends and admirers and his huge family. He’s calling all the shots in Jaejoong Land now. Actually, he must LOVE it. The only thing he’s not doing is living like a kid in a college dormitory with 4 other kids. Kind of makes me wonder how many OT5s will eventually graduate college and decide to “stay on” in their dorms…
Homin do nothing about the rumor? Hmmm…..well we all know their album sale was not as good as JYJ, thats why avex keep spreading this kind of rumors. Do nothing? Hmm…
I personally dont hate Homin, coz I really dont care abt them. I dont know Homin. All I know is JYJ.
All we want is, they stop using or bothering JYJ. Leave them alone!!
@seobehrin
Yes, I Know that, they love each other, still, but both of them is hurt. And their relatioship is so damage.
What I can say that, No one know their heart, I just wish for their best.
@bluesky
I got your point, honestly, It’s pissed me off too, when I hear about sment or avex which try to make news or sometimes related to JYJ, and Make JYJ worst, or they*sment or avex* still try to take advantage from JYJ, and I do want They leave JYJ alone.
Because there’s too much wound in JYJ side, and I feel it too.
and it’s all because sment and avex. Not, homin.
But what can I do?
I’m Just fans who wish that they’ll back as 5, withe note that HOMIN get Out from that f**k company.
and I don’t want to argue about everything, I just say what I think.
I’m sorry If My word makes You uncomfortable.
@dikariani
Because there’s too much wound in JYJ side,and I feel it too.
and it’s all because sment and avex.Not,homin.
how could you say such thing?do you think JYJ were not hurt with homins interview?& those harsh words came from someone you consider brothers?
i really can’t understand some people like you.
@jaemyhoneybear
I know about those interview, I Feel hurt too, seing they say those word to JYJ.
But, Even I try to explain i know that you will not want to read that 🙂
And I know, That just will make a new trouble in here, and I don’t want cause any trouble in here.
I just said, what You believe and what we believe maybe different, but We love JYJ much.
And that’s the important.
I respect your believe and I’m sorry if my word make you pissed off.
honey, by not followed JYJ out from sment it’s already hurt JYJ the most. Now plus the sentences that they said in an interview on national TV…oh boy. That my friend its like a bullet been shot to your chest.
Hearing tht from one of sm or avex ppl, im sure wont hurt tht much. But heard from their so called brothers……tht hurt even more.
So yeah, I really give no damn care abt those two. Karma is a bitch. Now sm and avex already start to feel tht, and soon so will homin. By the time they realized they were wrong, everything already too late…
Homin will not get out from that f*** company. They have their chances and blew it..
@grlrex
Agree with you.The 2 are not talented enough to be on their own as JYJ.That is why even SM knows that they have to carry
the title of TVXQ to survive.Although it is not fair to JYJ.In this battle,all I see is the unfairness toward to JYJ,hopefully the justice will serve soon.
If we are going to be consistent on our theories concerning Homin in SME then this “Homin doesn’t do anything about these rumors because they don’t sell well” claims make little sense. If they really can’t do anything under their “masters” then I doubt that they have the ability to curb rumors from Avex or some cheap tabloid. That doesn’t make any sense.
Now if they do have some new liberties under SME I still argue that it doesn’t mean they call the shots at SME and especially at Avex. SME/Avex’s CEOs/active chairmen are the ones who dictate the propaganda of their companies not the idols. It could also be the act of a desperate news editor trying to re-invigorate their readership with some scandal. Those are just cheap shots against Homin. In fact this is such catty behavior that I wouldn’t be surprised if Homin stans are saying the same about us.
“what I want, is they back as 5, with HoMin get Out from sment and avex.”
OH! I’m sorry, but your oppas doesn’t want to get out from SM! Isn’t that clear???? JYJ already asked Homin to leave SM together but HOMIN DOESN’T WANT IT!
If u support both of the group, please also support their decision.
@gigikusakit
I’m sorry if my word make all of you pissed off.
I support both of them decision. If I’m not why i’m still hear their song? I even still vote JYJ more than HoMin.
I still try to make them sale is amazing.
I do Support them.
Because I love them too much.
But I can’t do anything if someplace in my heart still wish that they will be together again.
maybe I’m a dreamer, yes, Iam.
I can’t help to wish everytime I pray that they’ll back as 5.
I know it’s sounds desperate, and I’m sorry If it’s make you pissed off.
I don’t want make any of you uncomfortable,because my word. I know when I write that word that will be my fault to bring ‘homin’ in JYJ fans website.
I just want you to know, just in this news, this’s avex plan.
But if my word is wrong, I’m sorry. I’m really sorry, for make all of you mad.
Lol. No, you don’t support their decision because clearly you said “what I want, is they back as 5, with HoMin get Out from sment and avex” .. it’s selfish~
I suggest you to better wake up and accept reality, if u want to support both of the groups u should support them separately.
@gigikusakit
Yes, I’m selfish 🙂
I’m already said I’m selfish 🙂
But what can I do if my heart still love 5 of them much?
I accept reality, JYJ and HoMin has their own way, and I support both of them.
Support and Believe is different 🙂
And I don’t want make this argued so far again, because whatever i say, i just know, that you don’t understand what I feel, and maybe don’t want understand.
For me, and maybe a little few outside there, even it’s a little, we still wish they back as five.
Once more, sorry for make you pissed off.
@dikariani
“Yes, I Know that, they love each other, still, but both of them is hurt. And their relatioship is so damage.
What I can say that, No one know their heart, I just wish for their best.”
*Banging my head on a wall* & this is for @Zsuzsanna Jung too – will fans like you stop saying that no other fan can possibly know what any of the 5 guys might be really feeling/thinking/believing, only to then turn around & claim that YOU do… Not only is it incredibly annoying, it makes you sound delusional – aka “No one, not even his family, knows my Oppa like I do. Why even Oppa doesn’t know himself as well as I know him…. in spite of the fact that I’ve never even met him… “
@gigikusakit
LOL… Someone down yonder has your avatar!!!
When I read the comment thinking it was you.. …I said to myself “Gigik has LOST HER MIND!”
Then I realized it was someone else…. man that was close! I though you had jumped ship and turned into an OT5! LOL
LOL. HAHAHAHA. IKR, I was surprised too. I’ll never ever jump and turn my ship lol
@dikariani “what I want, is they back as 5, with HoMin get Out from sment and avex.”
Your SELFISH want is not you are going to get.
HoMin is IN LOVE with their “Oh-My-Master” which is SM. They have re-contracted them for a long time. They also need Avex to continue their career in Japan.
You, I suggest that you either accept JYJ cos’ they are the ones who suffer the most or support these 2 groups separately and stop lumping them together.
She seems to have a pretty good grasp on reality. Don’t you think it’s a little much to attack someone just for having a sentimental heart?
i know how you feel :’D
“Because I Know They still Love each other.”
We’ll never know what they really feel or felt deep down, all we know comes from their words and actions in public. And I can’t see a smidgen of love in the resentment and bitterness shown.
I think the only ones orchestrating a reunion are AVEX’s marketing and promotions department. There is no way that the actual working part of the company could be that delusional. SME isn’t going to let 2HSK anywhere near anyone that has anything to do with JYJ. JYJ wouldn’t trust anyone that has any real say with regard this “reunion”. And Ayumi knows far too much about the whole business to get involved. The whole idea is ridiculous.
Seriously, why are they dragging Ayumi into this mess? She’s already feeling down due to her divorce. I think reuniting TVXQ is the last thing on her mind right now. If AVEX did ask Ayumi to negotiate with JYJ, then they should be ashamed of themselves.
Pretty much.
How have you been Eliza? It has been so long.
I’ve been around. 😉 It just seems to take monumental stupidity to make me chatty. 😀
(-_-)ゞ゛*shugs*
When a belief is so deeply rooted into their system, nothing of the truth will convinced them otherwise.
I’m tired of trying to explain over and over again to some people.
they only accept their own will, not the reality.
It’s okay if they keep it themselves. But when they force other people to accept what they want, that will make me really pissed!!
But isn’t that what you guys are doing?? Just let them comment and ignore them…in the end they want attention. Sheesh i’m afraid u guys will literally rip those fans apart. It’s not like they hate jyj
@Junsubiased
“But isn’t that what you guys are doing?? Just let them comment and ignore them…in the end they want attention. Sheesh i’m afraid u guys will literally rip those fans apart.”
The problem is that they have come HERE, to our place, to JYJ’s place to do it. And as I’ve said a couple of times elsewhere now, this is just getting way beyond old. It’s the same old juvenile crap, the same old rainbows and unicorns and there are people here who are just tired of it and tempers have frayed.
If there was ANYTHING new about ANY of the comments that ANY OT5 has made on this thread today, I’d address it seriously. But there isn’t. This fandom is asleep and dreaming and many here say if they want to be here on JYJ3 they have to wake up now. Because they are young and they have enjoyed the pleasant dream that DBSK was long ago, they don’t want to, so when stupid fallacious articles like this tabloid has printed appear, they come here and whine about it.
@Lili
Exactly.
They come here to rant and expect us to keep quiet?!!!
No way!
I’m sorry Shadow but my feelings are too strong! I want to live vicariously through DB5K. Homin and JYJ NEED each other. I know I’m being a selfish little creep but I can accept reality except I really can’t because 5 seconds later I say things that could be honors material for a conspiracy class. I support JYJ and Homin. I buy all the albums, I attend any concert I can, I watch all their videos on youtube and repeat their music over and over again. I attend the fan meetings and I’m learning Korean in hopes of conveying to them the love that they once had that they forgot about but I still remember because I KNOW THEM!!!!
No one knows what all 5 feel deep down. I know they still support each other and they are hurt that we fans are fighting like this as if our ramblings on a site which only Yoochun could (maybe) understand will really matter or even change anything. (Cause it doesn’t. JYJ3 is a community of fans not a direct link to JYJ) My feelings matter more than JYJ’s or Homin’s because if any of the five show even the slightest hesitation towards a reunion I’ll try to forget it because who gives a shit what any of them want? It is about what I want! I’m sorry if my selfishness upsets anyone here. I’m sorry. Please I have a fragile heart (along with a fragile mind) that dreams up all the possible ways Homin and JYJ will reunite!
On a real note: If JYJ and Homin ever do reunite then I’ll go to their first concert and publicly admit that I doubted it would ever happen cause I’m a real shitty cassie.
@MIA2
LOL dear, lovely sarcasm that of yours >___^
I thought you’re copying someone’s comment , lol!
@MIA2
LOL!
I’m in love with your comment! 😉
HAHAHAHAH! these recent comments on here are EXCELLENT entertainment. We should bookmark them so we can come back and giggle later on LOLOL!
I admit I’m a selfish little troll but since I said it like a spineless wimp I just hope I get on no one’s nerves!!! *simper simper* OMG! What do I do now? Will I still be this moronic 5 years in the future? How about in 20 years when I’ll be some kids’ grandmother? Will I still believe in the beautiful never ending friendship of Homin and JYJ?
Will I?………………………..Yes…..Yes I will!!!!!
I’m just trolling so don’t think this is a fake. I’m the real MIA2.
Anyways, I think those kinds of fans are even worse than the ones that spew, “AKTF FOREVER!!!!! *crazy eyes*
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! est~
Thanks for the giggle ^^
@MIA2
lol^^ I ‘almost’ thought you’re real!
Gosh~ you act just like them! Bravo! Hahaha
ohh… crap!
Now this is a hot topic among all dbsk fans and every years i hear about this just like with H.O.T even untill 10 years they are disband we still hear that.. sigh…don’t know why but this is sad if this is just an “empty hope”
anyway ayumi as a negotiator hmmm okeeee i thought she just close with jaejoong ? so this is the reason why i hear some flock said jaejoong now try negotiating with JS and YC .
“now try negotiating with JS and YC ”
I think i know what YC’s reply would be….. “f— off, no more talk” >:)
I remember someone talk about that rumor things in GAAP (but i don’t remembers which and when GAAP), but one things i don’t like is they even made a rumor using JJ name sigh i wish they stop puting all the responsibility for dbsk reunion in JJ shoulder.
( and please ot5 fans stop bothering ayumi too, she already have a problem with that divorce things..tsk )
@Springbok7
“I think i know what YC’s reply would be….. “f— off, no more talk” >:)”
Yay! lol
I think it would be too, girlfriend. I think Chunnie feels he is JUST FINE as he is now, on the list of Korea’s top, richest celebrities, madly in demand for endorsements and dramas, living in a villa, driving a Ferrari. Do OT5 fans really think he’s going to want to get on his knees in front of Lee Soo Man ever again? The last time he did it was to beg LSM for a loan so his family could continue having a roof over their heads.
And LSM said NO.
This tabloid “news report” is so riddled with nonsense and erroneous info I don’t even think I want to finish reading it.
With all my heart, I hope that JYJ does NO FURTHER BUSINESS with AVEX.
Same thing for me.
I haven’t read the whole article too. It was enough for me to read the title and following comments to understand this was the usual crap …
P.S. @lili, I was looking for the opportunity to send you a big, big hug
@Ellis
“P.S.lili, I was looking for the opportunity to send you a big, big hug”
Hi Ellis–a big, big hug right back at you! I hope you are fully recovered now, btw. WHAT a tempest in a teapot this thread has become! I feel the original tabloid article was a manipulation by someone working for AVEX, pure and simple. It was designed to stir up the OT5 fandom, except once again, the fandom can not or will not see that they are being manipulated. Very tiring.
Meanwhile, I’ve been looking for fancams and reviews of TVX2’s first solo tour dates, which have now finally started. Haven’t found any and I’m wondering why. I was interested in knowing how much of their show is going to be lip-synced but so far, all I can find is obviously youthful spazzing about how cute Changmin is, etc etc. So I guess I’ll wait and continue looking. If anyone has seen or read anything about the actual content of the shows so far, please let me know.
@lili
I know where some links are. It was SAD… They sang old TVXQ5 songs again.
One was Toki Wo Tomete and really no matter how they rearrange this song for two… with HMs vocals it just won’t work.
Do you want links via e-mail?? It’s too volatile here right now.
@A Friend of JYJ
Oh Dear! I found “Toki wo tomete” on YouTube and I did not dare to comment. I must be a masochist!
What is worse is that CM sang a cover of “Rusty Nail”, a classic of X-Japan (as well as one of my favorite J-Rock songs ). I’m experiencing a hard time recovering from the shock…!
@A Friend Of JYJ
“Do you want links via e-mail?? It’s too volatile here right now.”
Yes, please. lilibaiyu@aol.com
Thanks for your help. I won’t post further comment about it here. It’s for my own research.
@Ellis
OMO! My Friend!! Pleeease Don’t open the floodgates of Hell!!! 😉
TOO LATE GATE HAS BEEN OPENED….
(It was SAD and I’m being nice… Then listen to their new song Still… If that’s their best effort after all these months and ALL the singing lessons ….well, what can we say….. )
@lilibaiyu
Sending in a momento….
@lilibaiyu
Check your email.
Sent each as an individual e-mail.
@A Friend Of JYJ
“Then listen to their new song Still… If that’s their best effort after all these months and ALL the singing lessons ”
Thank you, my friend. No, I will not comment further here. I know their problems with singing live. I just wondered how much of it they actually did vs lip-syncing the whole “concert.” See–this is how Old School I am — I think when you sell out Tokyo Dome you should actually be able to carry a tune.
@A Friend of JYJ
Can you send to mine as well? Octavia714@hotmail.com
Thanks.
@A fri @ lili@BAF when your names pop up on recent comment,I wondered what my sis are still doing in there,and I came and checked. Ha ha u all are in an interesting conversation. sisters u all are daebak
@BAFfie
“Can you send to mine as well? Octavia714@hotmail.com
Thanks.”
Sis, if she doesn’t see your post–I saved them for you and will forward them to you. It’s quite the earful
Fasten your seatbelt.
😦
@zan
“@A fri @ lili@BAF when your names pop up on recent comment,I wondered what my sis are still doing in there,and I came and checked. Ha ha u all are in an interesting conversation. sisters u all are daebak”
Hi Zan – how are you? I’ve been sort of coming and going all day… I’m kind of hoping this particular tornado has just about blown itself out. The only one who I haven’t heard from that I always love is sally_b. Where are you, gurl!??
I positively require your take on this mess o’ trouble.
@AfriendofJYJ @Lili @Ellis @Baf
Sorry my dear sisters, I’m just too curious and when I read your post about YH and CM singing “Toki wo tomete” live, I ran to youtube to search for it, and I found it. ¿What can I say? Painful; my heart is crying, my ears are screaming. Ohhh poor boys. After all this months of voice training, they came out with this. I know they’re trying; they’re doing their best efforts, but sadly they sound as beginners, non experienced rookies. YH’s voice, oh dear, no power, no tone, no tune. Sad, very sad indeed. They’re just massacring old Tohoshinki songs 😦
@Shuheilove
“Sorry my dear sisters, I’m just too curious and when I read your post about YH and CM singing “Toki wo tomete” live, I ran to youtube to search for it, and I found it. ¿What can I say? ”
My honest reaction was “OMG, if they were on “American Idol” singing like that Simon would STOP them in mid-song and say something SOOO cruel.”
@BAFF
Hello my friend, sorry stepped away for a moment.
Check your email.
@lili and shuhei
have you read the top comment in youtube :
“thank you yunho & changmin for all the grt hard work you put in ur perf im such proud fan who has been ur fan since 2006 i can proudly say that tvxq is neverchange even with two members they still the brilliant legendary croup truly kings of all kings i dont mind even if they never be 5 cuz even with two they r rocking in very big time new flavor & charisma bliss ur hearts my two precious boys for all ur hard work ”
now i’m confused who’s the telling the TRUTH, LOL!
actually I don’t watch the video, I just listen to the audio since I’m working on another tab, I don’t know why I’m giggling listening to it, I’d listened to that song so many times with awe, but now I’m giggling! CRAZY ME
@shuheilove
That god awful scream at the end! I kinda loled cause the girl holding the camera screamed out “Changmin!” at the same time and of course….Yunho kinda stands on the other side uselessly pretty much letting Changmin control the entire song.
@kirs
You read that too? LOL! Hard work indeed covering their weaknesses but then seeing the “loyalty” of BigEast they’ll be fine. Kudos to them.
typo! I meant Kris
@Kris
My girl, all I can say is: That woman is obviously deaf and blinded by love. You need to be like this to write all the nonsensical things she wrote above a video that shows YH and CM singing “Toki wo tomete” live in the most awful way, as I say, like non experienced rookies. Very sad 😦
Btw, did you read the few comments below? Emptiness and no hope at all.
@kris
“@lili and shuhei have you read the top comment in youtube :”
Yes, read it. Oh gosh…. WHAT can I say? You all know I’m a singer, you all know I’ve spent my lifetime in music.
I know what singing ON pitch is, I know what singing OFF pitch is. I’m sorry, but I do. I know it bursts the bubble that these Homin fans are living in. Because these 2 are just not even in the running as far as vocal ability is concerned and isn’t that what they are supposed to be doing — Singing??? I’m starting to believe, seriously believe, that being delusional is a perquisite of being a Homin fan. I KNOW, really I do, that they love how The Two look. I GET that. But is that enough, to the point where they lie to themselves about what their ears are hearing???
@kris,Shuhe, Mia2, Lili
“have you read the top comment in youtube ”
When I first saw the video (and the others…they sang 5 of the old songs)… well I was kinda speechless. Then I read through all the comments… I wandered to my self if those who posted comments stating how wonderful the performance was…. were really…Deaf and Dumb or truly just completely Delusional! I settled on all three.
Truth be told HOMIN has had MONTHS… to get these old songs right, with thousands of dollars spent re-arranging the music, musical training, vocal coaching, and STILL (no pun intended) this is the outcome. What does that tell you about the musical abilities of these two? Nothing else needs to be said…. the proof is always in the pudding….
@AfriendofJYJ
Dear, I agree with you. This is very shocking. And I can’t help it but I feel very sorry about Changmin. I used to like his voice, and I really noticed that, instead of improving his singing abilities, he’s regressing them. As I said once, with YH by his side, he is sinking deeper and deeper into oblivion.
Netizen and fans all over the world already tired with this bullshit reunion.
JYJ is their own way. why always put the Reunion in the JYJ’s Shoulder??? thats really bad….
and put my personal want : I dont want them to be reunite again.
I despise this Japanese tabloid…AVEX a savior, YUK…this is totally an absolute contrast. Please don’t suggest a false impression of AVEX. Also painting JYJ’s affiliation with ‘dark acquaintance’ once again is…hmmmm…nice. The tone of the article still makes AVEX look nice, even though people may not believe it but it buzzes, doesn’t it?
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! I don’t like it!!!….For Me…Only Love JYJ…I don’t like the K-pop…only love JYJ!!!…I hate AVEX and SM….this shows that HoMin don’t have the JYJ power …JYJ have gone through many difficulties in these more than 2 years…and now Avex, SM and sorry but HoMin too… want to take advantage of the fame of JYJ
aahhh!! This is unfair and it bothers me greatly!!!!
now want to use friends and relatives of our guys for their dirty business….ahhhh!! I don’t believe that JUNO is participating in this…I think is just a LIE…
this just a rumor of AVEX to try to clean up its image…BUT people are NoT stupid to believe that they will change…AVEX did much harm to JYJ….
I DON’T BELIEVE IT!!!… And I don’tt think this will happen soon…YuChun and JunSu are the strongest in this decision…They have stated that a meeting will take time and take into account many aspects…AVEX want to take advantage of JaeJoong vulnerability because he was the most affected of the 5 for the separation…BUT Jae never leave JYJ….JaeJoong has said that without YuChun and Jusu he could not have survive in these two years…For him they are his two arms … Jae said that YuChun and Junsu Su are necessary for your life…
The decision of a meeting depends on the 5….And do NOT think that YuChun and JunSu agree on this point…And JaeJoong being the “leader” or “Hyun” respect their decision…Because JYJ are three people who have walked together for over two years
And they have faced many hardships together….The other two (HoMin)…mmm…I respect HoMin for the love that our guys have for them….But they really have not earned this respect…
OT5 or TVXQ/DBSK5 speak of love and union of the five that existed for more than 7 years…BUT I have seen how JYJ (JaeJoong, YuChun and JunSu) express their love and respect for HoMin…While the other two only blame JYJ….HoMin allow to call their friends “traitors” and they allow people to hurt them…SORRY BUT THAT IS NOT A FRIEND!! I respect HoMin for JYJ….But I do NOT think they deserve this respect…
Now C-jes…I hope your statement denying this absurd news!!!!
I doN’Tt want this DBSK/TVXQ reunion!!!!NO NO NO NO!!!
I don’t think C-Jes needs to say anything about this. It is too absurd to even comment on.
What they need to comment on is if there are any JYJ tour dates planed for when Yoochun finishes his drama.
Easy there dear….this just a rumor made by a collapse company, who desperately need to gain their stocks back so that they can show themselves up again in the world of business.
Totally failed….pity on their souls!!
well……actually this kind of news is I like the most. (and ofcourse will take it with a grain of salt always. )
this fandom is so alive again. LoL.
in this situation we can see who stay and fight till end and who left, claiming they are tired. *boooo*
me enjoy everything what will happen, because JYJ makes my life brighter everyday. XDD
haha well XD Thats why i love JYJS FANS ! because they can see the reality stright away they wont fall for AVEX shit tricks … cuz JYJS FANS itsefle ARE REALITY !!! so avex just serach for something else to play with =.= dont dare to come accross jyjs fans line
im PROUD of being one of them !!! ^o^
O.N.L.Y JYJ !
Reunion or not, I’ll Support whatever decision JYJ made..
Whatever makes those three smile, and truly happy..
agree!.
no strings attached..no pressure..
thats the only way to make them purely happy…
i’ll be behind JYJ in whatever decisions they made as long as they are happy…
*hugs* 🙂
*hugs you back* 😉
JYJ FOREVER!
What a time waster! Humph!
@murasaki
Yes, i’m selfish.
I’m sorry for my selfishness make trouble for all of you.
I do accept JYJ as a group.
I don’t want argue about HoMin in here, because we’re different about what we believe.
I know this my faults.
Once again I’m sorry for make all of you pissed off.
I just want to say what I think, that this’s avex plan, but I know, that I was wrong.
Once again, I don’t want make a war here, we have what we like and what we believe.
we have different and same thing in our life.
and the same thing that I love JYJ.
Sorry for being trouble here. I’m really sorry.
I think sometimes we must face reality.
HM chose SM over their brothers <– fact.
If you really love them all, support what they are doing now, both JYJ and HM.
Don't keep harping on the past.
For if you kept refusing to accept what they are doing now, they will never be good enough in your eyes.
And what's the value of all the hard work they are doing currently?
@shadow
yes, That’s the fact.
What I say b4, what we believe and faith is different.
What same that I Love JYJ and all of you do the same.
And We hate sment or avex and want them leave JYJ alone, is same.
The different is what I believe and what all of you believe, but it isn’t important, and sorry for my word.
I’m not try to influence you, and I respect what you believe.
Once more, I’m sorry.
sabar eonni u,u
While I do appreciate the fact that you are not as intruding or rude as some OT5 guests, but that still doesn’t change the fact that you are still strangling JYJ (and Homin’s) current activities with their past.
Belief and Faith is pretty much synonymous. I can’t see the distinction that you are trying to make.
Btw, are you familiar with the theory of planned behavior? I am not a psychology major, but one of the principles of that is that values affect behavior which affects attitude and finally that leads to your behavior. If your beliefs are different, then you should refrain from coming/posting here or at least restrain yourself in your attitude and behavior in your comments because your natural behavior (as decided by your beliefs) is against the rules of this blog (which had been decided by our own beliefs).
JYJ3 welcomes OT5s as long as they follow the rules and don’t overstep their boundaries. It’s harsh, but every group, society, culture, and country have their own sets of rules that should be followed even for outsiders (perhaps especially for outsiders). Do not come onto JYJ3 and expect leniency for sprouting OT5 sentiments… we don’t have the same beliefs, therefore we don’t appreciate them here. It’s the same if I was to go onto a OT5 blog; I wouldn’t be saying stuff about how I don’t care for Homin either. I know you apologized repeatedly, but that’s no excuse for making the comment in the first place.
Some opinions are better not voiced here because this is not a democracy. This can be considered as an oligarchy where it’s “‘rule’ by a small group of people who share similar interests…” JYJ3 are a group of people who share similar interests, we don’t welcome all interests. If you are solely a Shinee fan or BB fan, you shouldn’t be here. Likewise, if you are an OT5 fan, then this is not really the right place for you either. But you are accepted as long as you express your JYJ interests here, and not your OT5 ones. That’s not to say you can’t express your opinions at all, but they should be just elsewhere. I don’t have a problem if you would take your OT5 interests to an OT5 website.
@dikariani Don’t worry. I don’t think you’ve offended or angered anyone. We all have different opinions on the entire situation, and as long as we respect each other and keep HoMin out of the conversation when they’re not relevant to the topic, things will be good. In a post like this, it’s natural to talk about them. Welcome to JYJ3! ^_^
@jaime
A+++
very well said
OT5 fans, please take note.
@seobehrin: No, she has offended/upset people, just look at the replies she got for her comments. Please don’t coddle her just because she’s apologetic… the truth is that her comment was inappropriate here. It’s natural to bring up Avex, JYJ, SMe, DBSK5 and Homin into this conversation due to the content of this article, but not in the way that she did. I could comment on JYJ and write how I hate them on my comments, but is that appropriate here? No. Just like it’s not for her to comment that she knows JYJ misses Homin and in the depths of their heart, they love each other and want to be five again.
Could she have made her comment here without breaking the rules? Easily, if she just left it at how she doesn’t believe in this Avex trickery even if she misses DBSK5. That’s perfectly fine. Some fans do miss DBSK5, but as long as they don’t express their wishes for a reunion or the thought that DBSK5 is perfect or the best that the boys can ever be on this site, then it’s an okay comment.
You have nothing to be sorry for, dear. Opinions cannot be wrong because they are just that. Opinions.
jika kamu membuat masalah disini dan kamu mengakuinya itu gampang kok
please clik x di pojok kiri atas tolong respect peraturan sini dong….kenapa kamu malah cari masalah disini..IN HERE JYJ3—->THAT MEANS FANSITE TO JYJ
jika kamu ingin berkomentar silakan pergi ke fansite ot5 dong….atau ke ALKPOP AJA …aku maw minta tolong berkomentar disini boleh TAPI LIHAT PERATURAN DONG JIKA MENGERTI TERIMA KASIH
@dikariani You can click the lovely “X” sign on your PC and get out from here. And go to your lovely sheltered world of those delusional OT5site who are nothing but just live in the past and have sex fantasy on “Yunjae”. BTW, have you ever work you ass off in the reality before? Have you ever been indirectly drag to office politics that make your live miserable? Have anyone ship you with your same-gender BFF and those crazies told everyone that your sexual preference in which is not true. Have you ever thought those were your friends and will stand by you and then the next minute, they hurt like you till you are so broken that you wish that your life is not this way. Have you?
2 words for you. Get Real!
@dikariani Hi, I don’t think you should apologize. Everyone has different opinions, if people agree with you is okay, and if they disagree is okay, too. 😀 and from what i read, you didn’t say nothing disrespectful to apologize 🙂
btw I don’t understand why some people felt so offended with your comment
I am usually a lurker here. First of all, I don’t trust avex at all and this seems to be just for them to make profit than something which comes out of any interest in JYJ’s welfare. I also don’t believe that HoMin have made any overtures for JYJ to even start considering whether they can at least talk about it. However, dkiriani seems to be someone who understands the situation and is truly concerned about JYJ’s welfare. I may not agree with her about an OT5 reunion which she also knows is impossible unless things change drastically, but I don’t think there is a need to get offended about somebody holding an opinion as long as she doesn’t shove it down your throat.
@dkiriani
I respect your sentiments. We cannot wish away the past. They all might have been tight as brothers once, but what has happened has also changed them in perhaps irreconciliable ways. JYJ winning is not just a “personal fight”, but something which has implications for how the whole of k-pop is run. If they can do it without the support of any big companies or groups, I am sure others will also follow suit. One of the many reasons why so many love and support them.
A compilation of things that she shouldn’t have said here:
“For me, DB5K is more than anything, JYJ or HoMin
Because I Know They still Love each other.
And what I want To say that, this’s Avex plan’s and they *homin* do nothing about it.
But, all I can say that, Avex is the main subjet to hate. And HoMin do nothing about the rumours.
Yes, I Know that, they love each other, still, but both of them is hurt. And their relatioship is so damage.
Because there’s too much wound in JYJ side, and I feel it too.
and it’s all because sment and avex. Not, homin.
For me, and maybe a little few outside there, even it’s a little, we still wish they back as five.”
And then she wrote that:
“What I say b4, what we believe and faith is different.
I’m not try to influence you, and I respect what you believe.”
What part of “I know they still love each other” and “Homin have nothing to do with JYJ feeling hurt” (not exact quote) is NOT trying to influence our beliefs? What part of love is making derogative comments about the said love ones multiple times in public? While I do agree that Homin probably have very little to do with this rumor, but what prompted her to include them at all? Did anyone blame Homin in earlier posts for this event? I did not see any (although I could have missed a few), and the general consensus is that Avex is the one that’s behind all this BS. So why exactly did she have to bring in all her Homin/JYJ love theories? As I said earlier, if she have left it at “Even though I miss DBSK5, this is absolutely Avex BS” then there wouldn’t have been such a huge discussion.
Please don’t excuse her words just because she’s nice about injecting her clearly OT5 views (that are against the rules here) on a JYJ site. She apologizes constantly while still giving out these type of comments in her apologies. She also said she can’t help herself but comment like this when she read the article which is the exact reason why she should not have come here in the first place. If she can’t control how she writes her OT5 views, then she is not suitable for this site because we are solely a JYJ fan group. I don’t mean to target her specifically, and most of my comments are for all the OT5s, but she is the one that some people defend when they shouldn’t. I can understand people being welcoming and friendly, but as long as we are not attacking the person, but just their comments, and telling them that this is not the website for them unless they start controlling their comments, I don’t see a problem with it.
Look at how many OT5 comments there are right now on this page. This is a JYJ fansite, so there shouldn’t be any OT5 comments at all. If I was interested in OT5 then I would remained at SYC, but I am not and this is not an OT5 fansite. I don’t know how to put it any clearer than that. People can have opinions and they can also voice them, but there’s always an appropriate time and place for them, and this is not the place or time for OT5 fans.
@jaime, AAA+++, I agree with u!
@jaemi
I’ve already said that I’m not tryn to Influence any other you in my side.
It just may opinion , and my react because I think This’s legal to talk because I’m not out from the article.
And If you think My word make you feel disrespectfull I’m sorry
but, dear, Honestly if you say I must get out from Here I’m sorry I can’t
I Know that, maybe you don’t like me in here, but I can’t stop to get here, because This’s one of many side which always update about them, the one I love.
I don’t want to bring any other except them, and I realize my fault before.
So please accept my apologize, and You will see that I’ll never Write Anything except 3 of them again.
I don’t like war, I’m too much love them to forget them or out from this website.
So, can you just forget it?
We Both Love JYJ, and We have different way to Think and believe.
Can you Give me a favour to forgive me and just see the way I Love JYJ, and Ignore the side I still love the other?
@dikariani: I am not angry with you, but just irritated in general at all the OT5 posts which included your own initial comments and then at the people defending your initial comments. There’s nothing to forget/forgive because I just wanted to tell you that this type of message is not allowed on here and why. If you follow the rules of the blog in the future, then there will be no problems.
Most of my subsequent messages have to do with other people dismissing your initial comments as harmless or okay, and why I don’t think that’s the case. That’s all. I have no beef with you right now, and I do welcome you to JYJ3 as long as your future actions don’t cross the rules here. Normally, we are a much happier bunch, but you picked a bad day to comment lol.
@jaime
Okeeh, I already Take Not for that ^^
Don’t Worry, I Love Peacefully, not Kind of People Who Doesn’t know Where they are.
Just Keep My Word, and Tq for Remember me b4 😉
and there’s FanWar in AKP.. between OT5, JYJ site, HoMin Site and some antis who dislike both. what a mess.. along with 500+ comments only in few minutes..
what a chaos. I do not want to waste my time on unnecessary article on allkpop kekeke
@gigi: someone using ur ava.. im shock!! and she said: Bring Back DB5K to cassiopeia.. lol..
lol when there is no fanwar in allkpop ? just let them ^^ they mad because that articel making JYJ is like someone who avex needed more than the current tvxq now.
sorry but I have much fun trolling on allkpop…lol
THIS!! Sometimes people in AKP can make me lol for so many timess.. :p
@gigi, @Love_jyj:
Sometimes
people in AKP
can make me
lol for so
many
timess.. :p
Well, this just a rumour…so we still don’t know is it true or not.
Everybody have their opinions and they have some reasons to give their opinions…
I know I just the ordinary fan but I just can say whatever happens to them if they’ll reunite again or they won’t reunite I’ll support them, whatever decision they make I’ll support it… I’ll love them if they reunite and I will also love them if they don’t reunite…though from my heart I can’t believe AVEX again, I just wish the best for JYJ
PLEASE GOD, MAKE IT TRUE!! we want them back as FIVE. please 800.000 CASSIOPEIA STILL WAITING for them back. CASSIOPEIA ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH! jaejoong, yoochun, changmin, junsu, yunho, they miss each other.
And here they come!!!
DB5K want to cassiopeia still waiting. JYJ always said, we are DONG BANG SHIN KI. that’s why we always hates people said we ex Dong Bang Shin Ki there’s no JYJ without DB5K. i hope JYJ win againts SM Lawsuit on june. JYJ and HOMIN is Subgrup from DB5K. we believe DB5K will back soon. if they’re back there’s no JYJ Stand or Homin Stand, we are CASSIOPEIA!! DB5K NOT BROKE!!
Girl, open your eyes. I bet you are some adolescent teenager.
1. WHEN JYJ introduced themselves as DBSK? WHEN? WHICH INTERVIEW??????
2. JYJ and 2tvxq are obviously different group. JYJ agency = CJES, 2tvxq= SME see the different now?
3. You can keep you believe until the end of judgment day, but we (JYJ fans) believe on JYJ. We keep our faith on JYJ.
4. Unfortunately, they are DIFFERENT GROUP NOW. JYJ= Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu . I don’t see any other names on there. Because of that, WE ARE NOT CASSIOPEIA!!!
@paramitha
Dear, I Know what you feel because I feel it too.
But honey, Too be honest, You Must Respect JYJ fans Here, and not say that word to them.
They have what their believe and we have what their believe.
We’re different, but we same because we love JYJ.
And honestly, it’s not decent if you want to talk about whatever dB5K in here.
This isn’t our home honey, 🙂
@gigikusakit
OMO! LOL…!!!
When I read the comment thinking it was you.. …I said to myself “Gigik has LOST HER MIND!”
I thought you had “jumped ship” and turned into an OT5!
Then I realized it was someone else…. man that was close!
hmm….when exactly they said tht? Like 5 years ago? And what is this with JYJ and Homin is sub grup from dbsk5??
*SMH*
@Gigikusakit
I thought Junsu said “we’re still dongbangshinki” in JYJ interview at Guerrilla Date or something like that?
Not sure. I could be wrong.
@shadow
She’s lost, she’s better go back to their OT5 site. We are not Cassiopeia kekeke.. we are JYJ fans
when i first saw the comment i also thought it was you, i was surprised, really.
@Gigi ha ha lol. what an opposite twin u have here lol
I guess the number of cassies is just down to 799 999 because @shadow left the wagon LOL! just keeping it fun ^__^
Wahahahaha^^
You got me! 😀
😀 Trolls are so cute. 😀
Let’s accept the truth,shall we?
Homin doesn’t want to get out from SM or Avex.
JYJ has asked Homin to get out from SM together but your oppas DOESN’T WANT IT, because they love their beloved SM than their brothers.
Fyi, it’s not OT5 site. It’s JYJ site. We are NOT CASSIOPEIA.
Last but not least, do not took JJ and YC’s ‘always keep the faith’ as your slogan.
As JJ said, AKTF mean Always Keep my principles and beliefs (from Elle magazine)
@Gigi
You have an twin!!! Lol^^
I was surprised when I saw her avatar! lol.
I think , I better doesn’t have a twin. kekekeke #justsaying
It’s good they un-identical twin! lol
one a Cassie 100% and one a JYJ Fan 100% …
ROFL i just realize it
@Gigi, I though what was going on till I saw another Yuchun’s gravatar which is the same except the shade is different. LOL!
@gigi I thought it’s you…I had to do a double take O.O
I feel weird, it’s like I see 2 me commenting on each other =____=
same here. I was shock also. I thought @gigi changed her mind in just a half day 😀
@gigi let them know cause I don’t think they get it yet…smh like gigi said this is JYJ SITE NOT CASSIOPEIA ENOUGH SAID
OH NO!!!! MY TRIBESWOMEN ARE COMING…. CLOSE THE GATE, CLOSE THE GATE!!!!
Rofl^^
Shouldn’t it be “Who let the dogs out?”
Jk jkj jk
ROFL!!! But let’s not insult the dogs…
My applause for @dikariani for being reasonable… now pls escort our OT5 sister home.
Just spoke to my cousin’s dog… YUP, he thinks it’s an insult to be compared to persistent, stubborn or delusional OT5 fans. He said dogs have more common sense…. jk jk jk
Oh, what a coincidence! Coz mine too. Haha
ROFL!!!!
@iamjyjfanboy
ROFL!!!
Sorry, we didn’t get the gate closed quite fast enough.
@Paramitha Ariana You are another Ding Dong…..
“Only to TVXQ5′s fans: You are welcome here, but please remember this is a Fansite that supports only JYJ, so please refrain yourself from spamming about Homin and Yunjae.”
Can you read? Yo can’t right? Go back to school if you are working or study harder. DON’T WASTE YOUR PARENT’S MONEY!
800k?..I think its time for audit already..
mte, this is one out of date statistic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hmTCpw-KL0 okey, i’m respect to y’all comment as JYJ Stand. i love micky yoochun as TVXQ/JYJ for 8 years, but please respect us as Cassiopeia, because there’s no JYJ without Tohoshinki. and cassiopeia love five of them so we support JYJ and Homin. i don’t want to make a fanwar, because i’m OT5, i love five of them and micky yoochun JYJ/TVXQ is my bias. that’s it. i don’t want to comment again.
This video is so OLD
As much as I want them as DB5K, I don’t think it would happen. Sounds to me that AVEX is desperate, and wants to use JYJ and Cassies hopes. How evil. I guess that’s what business is. And I highly doubt that SM would let them do that.
But still I’m gonna keep the faith. AKTF!!! And I still wish to hear the wonderful harmony of 5 voices LIVE again. T T.
keep on dreaming girl, you can keep on dreaming. DREAMING.
You actually know in your heart that reunion won’t be happen but why still doesn’t accept it? tsk tsk.
You are not even in sync as JYJ. LOL!!!!!
AKTF is “Always Keep My Principle And Beliefs” my dear~~
If you cannot accept JYJ, I suggest you move on.
no need for JYJ to comeback to TVXQ.
no need to lick those LSM’s feet for money to live.
they have earned enough money to live “properly”.
Avex is so full of shyt.. It ain’t never gonna happen jyj is happy where they at being JYJ AND STEALING OUR HEARTS..enough said now time for bed
i’m curious about one things are this is the first time Kpop artist get banned from two different country ?
YES, i think so!!
Isn’t KARMA a bitch? Now AVEX pay up…
I’ll always say that I’m a DB5K fan through and through, but this rumor and Avex propaganda leaves a bitter taste to my mouth… delusional OT5 have another source to feed their delusion!!!!
@iamjyjfanboy
“….but this rumor and Avex propaganda leaves a bitter taste to my mouth…”
Agreed…. I’d say more but I’m sort of afraid… LOL 🙂
(By the way….That has to be the SCARIEST GRAVATAR I have ever seen in my life.!!!
I am going to have nightmares after seeing that….)
@AFriendofJYJ
hahahaha… I’ll take your fear of my avatar as a compliment. I really hope u won’t have nightmare after seeing it, It’s my tribute to All Blacks Rugby team.
Why are you afraid to say more? I find that strange coz I know you’re an opinionated lady. I would say more but I’ll just be repeating what most people post here.
@iamjyjfanboy
“…… I find that strange coz I know you’re an opinionated lady. I would say more but I’ll just be repeating what most people post here.”
OH MY G! Opinionated??? Me? Moi? You hurt my feelings….. LOL Wait a second?? Who are you? I thought you were new here?
Anywhooo…. Ahhhh yes… New Zealand… What is they say…. “Is Your Heart All Black?
Talk about MACHO!!! and TESTOSTERONE BY THE GALLONS… 🙂
Okay… I’ll sleep better now that I know… Thanks…
@iamjyjfanboy
Urrmmm… wait a second? So you are really a guy????
@A Friend of JYJ
LOL! @iamjyjfanboy is @JYJFanboy. He changed his name hen he FINALLY registered his account and got the avy he’d been promising me for AGES!!! it’s his own fault he couldn’t keep the name cause he procrastinated so much… LOLOL!
(ok i’m done teasing you, @JYJFanboy LOL!)
@AFriend of JYJ
Oh, don’t be hurt when I said “opinionated”, I mean you speak your mind (and you should) base on what I read on your previous postings. And Yes, I’m a GUY, a real fanboy and my heart is All Black…. LOL!!! Gosh I love saying that hahahaha
@miranda
LOL… yeah I shouldn’t have procrastinated too long for registering my avy. Also, I was planning to ask you some more questions as a continuation of our discussion from the previous GAPP but I guess that could wait since my eyes is already hurting, it’s pass 2AM here in California. But before I go to bed… what’s the station/network your hubby planning to subscribe? hahahaha you don’t have to answer that yet as it might get “buried” in this commotion that’s happening right now. Thanks in advance 🙂
@Springbok
…. I am sooo confused.. Because I thought @JYJFanboy was a woman just using that name?
Didn’t I see a posting with her holding a cute chubby little baby in a car?
I thought in that posting the woman said she had just had that baby????
🙂 I must have confused him/her with someone else…
Okay @____Fanboy…. My apologies about the MACHO, TESTOSTERONE comment.
Then here is a little gift for you….
I’ll title it BE AFRAID…BE VERY AFRAID!….. AVEX! 😉
http://twitpic.com/8b38pu
@A Friend of JYJ
Shhh! I won’t tell him you thought that if you don’t 😉 LOL!
@JYJFanboy
I ~think~ it’s called FOX Soccer Plus, but apparently it carries all sorts of “foreign” sports har har har. Now i’m off to bed too. nighty night!
@AFriend of JYJ
No offense taken… Probably you’re referring to @bankofJYJ when she posted her daughter (where is she anyway? Unless you’re her LOL) or someone else.
Oh the Haka, thanks for the gift. Now i’m off to bed
@iamjyjfanboy
Oh Yes! That’s right… Thanks for the correction.
You are tooo funny! No I’m not her….and yes many have been MIA of late… but I imagine they are lurking. I’m cutting back also. (ie trying too..)
Sleep well new Friend…. 🙂
1.DO YOU KNOW WHY AVEX THROW JYJ A WAY ?
because SM use avex to get the boy back,so they useing reason that c-jes was have dark background and blockin they activity.with no activity jyj can back to sm and ofcourse back to avex with profit they can earn then.
2.why SM blocking jyj from entertinment industry?
a.because SM want every one know they power.
b.because with blocking jyj,jyj will beg to them,and back with them otomaticly.(sm dreaming)
both avex and sm they really lose much money because blocking jyj.so they act want db5k back.sm&avex really bullshit.
……………………………………….0______0
*closes tab and pretends to never have seen that
oh my god! i just leave jyj3 site for two days.. and now this article pop-out..
i realy tired reading all those crap! i will wait what jaejoong, yoochun and junsu desicions if they want to be reunite with homin as tvxq..i will respect that as long as three of them happy..
but to be honest for me JYJ is JYJ, period!!
Sigh not this again.
As someone who was never a DB5K fan, while I can understand the old fans’ feelings, this is really getting old really quickly. And very clearly this is just the management companies preying and taking advantage of these fans’ love/hopes (over and over) again. I can’t understand why some people are still so happy about it.
I want what ever the boys want. I go with what ever they decide.. No matter if we want them just as JYJ that name DBSK, TVXQ, THO is a name they still hold dear to there hearts and we should respect that. I will take this article for what it is an article , I will not say nothing is impossible cause that is not true many things are possible even a reunion, what I will say I will sit back and watch only time will tell.
Yappari.. I just knew it before, this post is gonna be the next most commented post after the professor’s article, and looks like it is..
Of course I’m on JYJ side.
Lets PROTECT THE BOYS!!
Uh??? Saviour?? lololol…. I guess Avex need JYJ because ‘Hero’ was there …But….There’s only Kim Jaejoong, Park Yoochun and Kim Junsu…JYJ…. That’s what they are now!!!
Why they(Avex) need reunion if 2SHK reportedly doing good in there?? Isn’t they(2SHK) already bring in the money??? or it just hyper to gain and show more popularity?? Just stop bothering JYJ Avex!!! Just pay more attention to your current ‘THSK’ now……Geez….Seemed like desperate attempts from Avex side…..
But no..no..no.. Definitely NO! I was once TH5k fans (since 05/06), but now i only get use to see and hear JYJ……I can felt the ‘th5k’ soul in JYJ songs and i want it to continue that way since my precious memory and fav song have been tainted…….This three letter ‘J.Y.J’ already replace and passed this ‘T.H.S.K’ or ‘D.B.S.K’ that once in my heart….So NO…i’m happy as JYJ fans…..I’m happy to follow JYJ journey…..
i just hope that whatever happens, it’s the best decision for all of them, not only for jyj but also homin
i really want to see them back together as 5 again, because i am a cassiopeia in the first place, and it’s not gonna change
i just want them to be happy no matter what
As 5? Not going to happen.
i know the chances are low, but still… can’t blame a fan for dreaming
Once upon a time, there were 3 little and cute boys, Jae, Chun and Su, crying on the dock of a bay, because they were abused by their “family”.
A strange and silly man named Max told them: “Come on! Come with me on my boat”.
They sail to the open sea and when there, Max began to exploit them as their old family and even more, repeatedly insulting them until he kicked them out of the boat.
The 3 Boys swam in the sea, between dangers and sharks, nearly drowned, fought with all their might, but eventually they managed to survive and reached a safe beach. When there, JaeChunSu turned and looked out to sea.
The boat was sinking and their tormenter was desperately screaming “Help me! Save me!”….
Now, what will be the end, I don’t know.
All I hope is that Jae will scream “Max, open your eyes!”
The moral of the story? Karma is a bitch!!!!”
ROFL
i like your story ^^
very nice story
but I want Yoochun to scream to Max (not Jae)
Yoochun please do the honor to end @Ellis story
….any guess what will YC shout to max?
Oh oh let me try.
“Shut up, no more talk!”?
“Fxxk you!”?
😀
Hahaha well yeah with YC tone xDD
HAHAHA! Ya, Yuchun will say that, he is a no-nonsense man ^^
LOL
😀 😀 😀
BINGO!
YC will shout “Fuck of No More Talk” ???
“Shut up, no more talk!” or ” Theory of porno, oh no?”
hahahahaha. LMAO
I like this one.. i mean two 😀
LOL
Because Avex are such backstabbers and disloyal…..Chunnie will yell…”You”ll never gonna find true love **** ***!
@Ellis
Bravo !!! *clap…clap….*
You should change your job as a story teller or script writter dear, kekeke
@Ellis
Dear, I like this story of yours. ¿Will Max open his eyes at the end? No one knows until now 🙂
“Will Max open his eyes at the end?”
Oh.. Does this mean he’s DEAD??? hehehe
I’m hoping it means he wakes up in the middle of being eaten by the sharks – & the fright gives him a heart attack!!!
“Oh.. Does this mean he’s DEAD??? ”
Ahem……… He opened his eyes just to find out he was being cooked into the biggest frying pan deep in the underworld; the place of eternal pain and suffering.
Oneesan! You made me choke laughing LOLOL!
Hope you and big bear are doing well. Missed you around here 😀
We’re OK, thanks. I’m only a little lazy lately, so I’m most lurking here and less commenting. 😀
*hugs*
@Ellis this should produce as best bed time story
I’ll take this as my bed time stories….XDD!!!
It´s a sad story 😦
Yes, till now, but the best has yet to come!
@Ellis
Lolol!!
@my sister Ellis….
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!! 😉
i hope the best for them. but, it looks better in JYJ. i don’t understand what are HoMin thinking about. they should leave SM !! JYJ is smarter than them hahaha *no offense* but i prefer JYJ for sure.
“During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’, thus rendering the planned collaboration.”
wtf is this? if this is true, then I will lose all my respect for HoMin
sadly but it’s true, Junho was scheduled to perform at a-nation with Ayumi Hamasaki but suddenly canceled. Obviously someone doesn’t happy to see Junho on stage.
Ayumi doesn’t want to performed without Junho, so she decline her performance as well.
After this incident, Ayumi Hamasaki tweeted that she lost her trust to Avex.
wow!
[imagination]
on my left hand i’m holding HoMin
on my ryt i’m holding JYJ…
reading this comment about HM don’t want to perform on the same stage as Junho
suddenly throws HM away a give my hands to JYJ..
just wow!!! i’m speechless..
Did this really happen? I would have thought Ayumi canceling a performance and tweeting words like that would have been big news. (Not to mention, I’m surprised she tweeted about it at all.) Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if AVEX covered it up.
Do you have proof backing this up?
“During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’, thus rendering the planned collaboration.”
As much as I personally distrust Homin, & we do know that Ayumi cancelled her A Nation performance & tweeted that she didn’t trust Avex, I don’t think any reason was actually given. & as this “news” has come from a tabloid sprouting such ridiculous, not to mention offensive, BS as “Avex to act as the saviour & reunite TVXQ”, we should take this with a grain of salt unless & until it gets confirmed.
Exactly! What the hell is wrong with people? If neither Ayumi, Junho or Avex mentioned Homin being upset then how can people go around claiming it is true? If it is highly insulting to read lies about JYJ then why would people go around doing the same to Homin?
I could see SME making a fuss. If they can’t reach Junsu–he’s getting way too far above their reach–they would go after the next closest thing. But I don’t think HoMin’s opinion would have entered into the issue one way or the other.
wow… such a long comment and discussion here (or should I say ‘war’?)
Hmm… I’ve guessed that this kind of bullshit news will make a war like this LOL yeah, some fans are delusional but that’s the cute and lovely things from fangirl right? Can’t accept the reality –” Okay, I’m DB5K fan before they split and still Cassiopeia until now. BUT… I love JYJ more than the two who still chose ‘MY BIG BOSS WHO GIVE ME MONEY’. I really love JYJ, really love them, I don’t even care about HoMin, but my biggest love is only for DB5K. I don’t know what I’m saying, but my heart is aching when people blame or bashing the OT5 for keeping their hope for the reunion. Yeah, I don’t really hope for the reunion, but I think if it’s true it will be good, as long as that’s what JYJ choose (even if I think it’ll never happen). And… It will be no problem for if they choose to be JYJ and HoMin forever and ever. Because I love JYJ’s music and JYJ’s life (and money ^^) after they split LOL
Conclusion : I’ll be happy if this just a rumour and I’ll be happy to if this is true. I said REUNION…. Not comeback together as 5… Just singing their old song together, yeah, get a good relationship and then… PUFFF… back to their separated life again
And I love this split because I can see my ‘dorky-cute-handsome-lovely Yoochun’ starred on many dramas… Peace ^^
Rooftop Prince~~
I cannot wait for it too <33333
I wish all OT5 like you, who can see fact and truth!
@gigikusakit yeaaaah, I have tooth ache (your name ^^) waiting for his new drama… Can’t wait ^^ yeah, it’s time for us to realize and accept the truth we face now 😀
are you Indonesian? And are you Yoochun”s bias? *eyes sparkling*
I’m indonesian, and as you can see on my avatar..I am Yoochun bias hahaha
i actually second you on that…
a reunion would be nice.. sing their old songs and A possible album collaboration and after dat back to their own lives, own careers..
A lot of things happened, a lot of bad words spoken..
and a lot of people got hurt..
NO NEED TO HURT AGAIN…
to OT5 PLEASE RESPECT THIS FANSITE IF YOU WANT WAR PLEASE GO TO ALKPOP PEACE
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I believe DBSK reunion is never going to happen – that said, I respect that OT5 fans still have hope for that.
Avex reunion with JYJ is a different matter. JYJ fans know to what lengths did Avex go to ban any JYJ activities in Japan and the mere thought of the boys working with Avex again makes my blood boil a little. Nevertheless, business is business and if Avex gets their shit together and offer JYJ a good contract I believe JYJ would and should take it.
It’s like slapping you then giving you a sweet. <_<
perhaps…the question is, if you’re hungry, will you take that sweet or not?
So just because someone treats you like a beggar, we should lower ourselves to them?
Avex KICKED them out.
Avex spread terrible lies and rumors about them.
Avex prevented people from renting their venues to them.
Avex stop them from holding a CHARITY concert.
@Shadow
I want what’s best for JYJ. The opportunity to finally promote in Japan, with the backing of a huge company behind them (and their producing team)? Yes please. I’m just saying that if the boys would make any sort of deal with Avex I would totally understand that decision. JYJ is not having an easy time in Korea, they’re not having ANY kind of time in Japan and I’m sure they are thinking a lot of a way to get back on Japanese market. After all, that’s where the money’s at and a huge chunk of their fanbase. Please don’t think I agree with any part of Avex’s treatment of the boys.
May i say that it is one of the most mature opinions I´ve read so far? Japan is a huge market and JYJ has a big fanbase there. If there is a chance to go back, of course on mutual agreement (no pressure), I would support the boys with such a decision. Even if it would include Avex. But unfortunatelly A is much like a dog to SME, so that will probabaly never happen.
@ruber
Thank you, seeing even one person agree with me in this crazy thread warms my heart a little. Reading others’ comments, I can now imagine what the fans’ reaction would be if JYJ started promoting again in Japan under AVEX. But I will continue to wish for it to happen. (if the boys want it too, of course) It’s the best thing that could happen to them, career-wise. Being able to work in Korea again would mean they can appear on a couple of shows, nothing more. Concerts around the world mean a lot to the fans but don’t bring them any money. Being able to promote in Japan again in the next few years before they go to the army would mean EVERYTHING for their career and bank account. Even if it meant working with AVEX again, I’d want it.
Well, my pov is, if there is gonna be any negotiations between JYJ and Avex, the ball will have to be in JYJ’s court.
Not just because Avex comes with a bait and our boys must bite it so as to go back to Japan.
JYJ are not beggars and don’t deserve to be treated like one!
And don’t forget, there is still SM to deal with first!
i just wishing the best for my boys 🙂
i just wanna see them smiling brightly and can continue their music career, life with or without homin :’)
eventough i’m an OT5 but i realize i can’t push my ego :’)
best wishes for JYJ and Homin 🙂
even there’s no chance to reunite i will accept it and keep support them 🙂
Avex to act as Savior?! it should be ”Avex to reunite TVXQ in hopes to save their broke asses”xD Afterall that happened in two years?Nahhhh….it’s alright without a reunion,i only love JYJ.
GO TO HELL AVEX! GO JYJ! GO JUNO! 😉
Okay, this rumor is like a repeat of last year’s rumor that there will be a reunion.. Nothing happened last year when the rumor was going around. The tabloids are trying to suck consumers into buying their news is all.
I don’t believe it will happen.
I would love all 5 to reunite but until EVERYTHING–lawsuits, rights distribution, money reimbursements, relationships rebuilt–is settled, it is unlikely to happen.
This is absurd Avex want our boys back after seeing their growth,i am sure SM also want them back.A man who fight for his freedom cannot turn back into obedient doll. Don’t u dare put pressure on our men,if u want give a true artist contract but still I don’t want them to work with these dirty companies.
“Avex who is losing ‘sellable’ stuff’s savior is to make it (the project) possible…”
What Project?
Reunion…Or Trying to Ride JYJ’s Popularity ??LOL…
ohhh…i see now…
AVEX -> NEWS “TOHOSHINKI REUNION…”
FANS – “Oh!! Lets Go Buy TOHOSHINKI’s Stuff..Support Reunion!!”
AVEX -> Money Coming In!!
avex want to play superhero bcoz they need superprofit..but avex you might be creating your own earthquake and suffer from your selfmade disaster.. and if ever they reunite they must first resolve their personal diffences. A stage with 5 conflicting and hurting performers and a courtcase behind is= a total disaster stage..
The more activity and combat spirit JYJ shows the more interests arises with various enterprises, since these profit likewise by more popularity of the fans. There were not also conflicts within the group and one can that back bring which passed. JYJ harmonize well together and them do which them would like, live more freedom of action – which is important for everyone. I believe to meet however that the boys and its conflicts will settle myself. I do not believe which we in the future all 5 will see again united. The fate has large with JYJ before and starting from this year becomes one also clearly notices thinks I. JYJ should exactly superior with whom you contracts lock themselves and on the small print respect. I make myself only a little concerns over it like you with the pressure finished, otherwise however am I you all capacities in itself will have myself surely around your way to third further to go.
hmmmm…read all the comments above.made me smile.. for me no doubt anymore.. jae once said he wants to be happy with fans as JYJ. So just wait for chunnie next drama, junchan next musical, jae’s new songs, next concerts, next worldwide album, jae’s next drama….. wow we got so many projects..but this AVEX things worth nuthing even to think about.. chill peep!!! *eating popcorn*
Nothing Avex can offer JYJ now can be more attractive than the kind of personal n musical freedom they are enjoying right now. A reunion? I’m sure the guys know better.
TRUEEEEEE
i wanna add more. JYJ’s now the boss. Why they need to come back to become a slave again, no way
and their lives were exactly described in Perriot song. They’re mature men to know what they need to do. So, i don’t think we’d worry about.
Everytime, this type of articles come in, delusional OT5 will start to flock in. And why? This type of news is not in their sheltered, back-to-the-past world? Alright then, BRING IT ON!
I am not stupid ok for telling me you do not read this because you delusional OT5, did!
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Do you believe in this shit? Check the source guys… CYZO is NEVER a very reliable source! And that’s fact!
CYZO is NEVER a very reliable source! And that’s fact!——-> sigh damn you CYZO
I just want to spazz JYJ not weird news
@dolta I personally think, there’s no reunion anytime soon. Maybe sameday? And not gonna ever believe to this until it came thru the OFFICIAL NEWS(not cyzo or any gossip aticles in japan. And take note everything they said were all not true!That’s basically what I’ve experienced in the past. being a fan of Jpop artist and all)!
Okay guys let’s all take a chill pill.. seriously this is about AVEX and they are creating a way to make a buzz and get the fans to see them as friends not enemy.. but we have so much past experience that we are now skeptic of their intentions.. so i say let’s brush this rumor off our shoulders and shrug it off.. today is just another day in JYJ’s rumor filled careers.. the important thing is we support them that they dont need companies like AVEX .. they can and will make it big i just feel it.. we just need as fans to calm down.. ^__^
tired of Avex,dumbass OT5,Homin ,sme,lee so man and puppets of sme
I dont need Homin with JYJ
JYJ is perfect as JYJ
if crybabies Ot5 are angry because I dont love Homin
Im so worried for your opinion LOL keep dreaming and living in the past ..KBAI.
I hope JYJ can be surpass that “POWER” so they can appear in TV programs…
I want see them in Runningman this year T_________T
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hehehe me too where is my frying pan !!!!!!!!
LOVE YOUR DP
kekeke thank you!
cant wait for Chun’s new drama ^___^
you are amazing, just the way you are~ JYJ
fighting!!! ^___^
I saw these articles in the net yesterday
But I don’t care whether it is the rumor or the truth…. It would be nicer if it is true BUT what I DO CARE is why these ppl keep always DRAGGING our boys with something like these news!!!!!!!!!
And I just have no believe in Avex….. Just last year they did all their might to stop those charity concerts
CJes better makes some announcement quick ^^
Avex…Avex…Avex…even Doreamon cannot save them from fantasy-land!! Whattttteverrrrr !!!
Jaejoong, Yoochun & Junsu didn’t give any hint or even bother to talk about Avex or reunion or the other two for so long already so I will let this news pass-by like another mild storm!!
agree with you. even Chunnie calls jae leader.. if reunion happen that wil be troublesome..hahahaha
¿Is YH a leader? ¿What kind of leader? ¿The kind who speaks BS about his fellow team members? ¿The kind who turns his back on them? ¡Duh!
I’m very very curious to know WHY AVEX DO NOT SELL THE duo TVXQ ON ITS OWN??? I thought the “name” itself is so much powerful, why not give them new Japanese songs mass market them and sell them??? Aren’t they very popular in Japan right now??? no sarcasm here, I’m just curious as why they’re not selling the 2TVXQ to cover AVEX poor music sales.
indeed … isn’t this the name sme and avex has been trying to milk ever since? does this mean that the homin duo is not giving the name tvxq the fame they used to get and perhaps the money too? the name tvxq, is still being exploited to this point by sme and avex, isn’t that enough that they had to drag JYJ’s name into it?
.. hhmm .. guess not?
errr .. not as much gold in the pot as it used to be huh?
The problem for Avex is that Tohoshinki in Japan are under SME Japan managment agency,and Avex is only their label for CDs and DVDs. It means that Avex gets nothing from the “related activities” like CFs, merchandise, fanmeets, and only a very small percentage from concerts. So even if THSK are going strong, Avex gets only peanuts. And other SM groups like SNSD and Shinne are NOT under Avex at all.
LIKE!!!
You know what’s funny, is that a lot of OT5 and Homin fans still don’t know that (Homin under SME Japan).
Seriously? seriously?
My understanding is this:
After Avex got greedy and thought they could get Homin from SME and keep JYJ, (without promoting them as punishment for wanting a better contract), SME played them and decided to keep Homin under SME Japan. So basically SME blindsided Avex and got JYJ banned from Japan (lol that sounds crazy!) in the process (which was their ultimate goal). So now they (SME Japan) could manage Homin under Tohoshinki assured that JYJ wouldn’t cause any problems because they can’t perform if Avex won’t let them. Now Avex couldn’t publicly admit their mistake and beg JYJ after all the damage they did so they have been trying to stay relevant with ridiculous rumors like these and they also keep up with the B.S. about CJeS president being a “gangster” with mafia connections.
I don’t think there is some special relation between SME and Avex per se but rather excessive pride on Avex’s part. A Japanese company that is “important” in the country can’t admit they got played by SME, a Korean agency.
This to me sounds like the MOST plausible explanation of all. AVEX did get played. I remember reading somewhere their new association was to be with YG. Haven’t seen anymore about that. But again, you reap what you sow. Bad judgment all around is what brought AVEX to this spot. Yes, they may be helping to shepard the concert tour, but they are getting peanuts for that.
When JYJ held their Thanksgiving concerts in 2010, a whole lot of money was earned in just 4 days. AVEX got way too greedy for their own good and tried to work a newer contract before the new one was old. So, if they managed to screw up, their bad. Yes, there is a hinderance to JYJ being free in Japan right now, but that won’t last for long. Once JYJ gets their foothold back, all bets are off.
What both SME/AVEX forget…the experience of FREEDOM is way too strong to get rid of. Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu now know what it tastes like, feels like, smells like, and they are not about to give that up. It must be a complete mind buster to know three young men have out-smarted two cagey, smelly old men who only have greed in their souls. But this is what happens when you over-play your hand. Learning when to fold is how you keep from losing your shirt. Since it appears both companies are losing theirs, looks as if they did not learn this lesson. Too bad. 🙂
“It must be a complete mind buster to know three young men have out-smarted two cagey, smelly old men who only have greed in their souls.” LOL! Agreed.
I’ve always wondered about JYJ’s issues with avex. So it would seem that homin japan is not under avex but sme japan? And the reason for avex’s dumping jyj was to please sm in exchange for homin or other sme groups? For a big company, I thought avex has more sense. I couldn’t see them losing had they decided to keep JYJ. So, I was actually under the notion that sme would probably block their other talents from avex if they kept JYJ. Stup!d avex, if that’s the case.
@teya
i always got the impression that it was sort of a combination of all sorts of situations: SM pressure, annoyance/disgruntlement at JYJ for having balls, greed, etc. But the bottom line is pride. There are so many mistakes that happened and ‘saving face’ is ~incredibly~ important. My gut feeling is that that is what it came down to. But the problem is that since JYJ really truly aren’t in the wrong, the more time goes by, the more foolish Avex looks for how they (mis)handled the whole situation. Who knows, if the people in power at that time had had foresight, perhaps they would have made different decisions at that time (cause companies are ALWAYS in it for the profits), but they don’t so they didn’t. and thus we end up where we are today. I just feel that a lot of stuff hangs on the closing of the JYJ-SME lawsuit. Once that’s out of the way, it’s likely a lot of Japanese hurdles may disappear, because the basis for the excuses will be gone. And hopefully then some other labels will be willing to work with JYJ. At least, that is MY fantasy LOL!
The 2 are not strong enough than 5,will never be.
But JYJ is more than strong enough to stand on their own.The past 2 year well proved.
@jjeyelash…agree 100%.
Newspapers and tabloids make me upset when they take statements by Avex and SME as if they were fact. Like talking about this “Person with dark ties” as if that was really the reason Avex dropped JYJ. Such an obvious lie, but they don’t research it past that. I guess the truth isn’t important, only what sells papers.
My 1st love was DBSK. But like a love that gone bad, ,my heart was broken when they broke up. And then when JYJ was formed, it’s like finding a new love a- a new beginning. I loved the old DBSK. But I love JYJ more now. I used to frequent fan sites like dbsknights until I stopped hoping and completely moved on to JYJ. I love the current JYJ. I would like them to renew their friendship..But I think I want them to stay as JYJ. They’ve grown so much and were able to overcome obstacles together. Correction: They have grown so much with us fans.
And seeing as how AVEX treated them..NO: I’d rather see them as entertainers free to themselves both in Japan, Korea or anywhere else.
@amainekochan Exactly how I feel. Well said.
My question about this “reunion is if Homin will go so far as to complain about just being on stage with Junho-because he’s Junsu’s brother- how the hell are they suppose to do a reunion without it being as uncomfortable as getting hemrroids removed? Oh well it doesn’t really matter because i don’t think this story or tabloid hold much weight.
LOL, I think Homin have hemorrhoids in their pride; very painful ones 😉
i know this is a kind of mean spirited comment,s but I could not help but SHOUT in laughter when I read it. HAHAHAHAH! omg that’s the funniest thing after “Savior my ass” LOLOL!
No i don’t want any more drama . Don’t know what to believe these days
lol ! i honestly think some comments from ot5 is funny…lol…
1. “I WANT THEM BACK AS 5 BUT NOT UNDER SM OR AVEX ! ” = well, i can tell that they’ve been living UNDER the same sky together, but no progress have been made so far, LMAO !
2. “I KNOW THEY STILL LOVE EACH OTHER BUT BOTH SIDE ARE HURT…” = right, so it’s okay for you to call names and insult people you love, i guess…
3. “I HOPE JYJ WIN AGAINST SM SO THEY CAN GO BACK WITH HOMIN UNDER DBSK..” = yeah, n you must think that homin is a pair of cute doll that makes two sisters fighting over them, kekekekek….
4. “THEY STILL FEEL THEMSELVES AS DBSK, JJ EVEN SAID HE’S A MEMBER OF DBSK” = i only see two people in DBSK, where is JJ ? is he behind yh’s big belly ? oh right, he’s in JYJ now ! XDD
5. “JYJ AND HOMIN IS SUBGROUP OF DBSK” = i know a group called JYJ. but i’m sure never heard of group named “HOMIN” can you show me ?
sorry, it’s just for fun XDDD
5. “JYJ AND HOMIN IS SUBGROUP OF DBSK” = i know a group called JYJ. but i’m sure never heard of group named “HOMIN” can you show me ? << the group called 2vxq XD XD
are you sure their group’s name is not “HOMIN” ? well you better explain it to someone up there, i guess she’s confused kekekekeke….
and I have FUN reading from 1-5, nice one,
and why we do have to take this article seriously!
the only truth is that Jae Chun Su are really very very handsome, I have a good time watching their 3 faces at the pics above, can we crop those pics admin, only JYJ, lol
my life is serious thing, my job is serious thing too, replying to confused ot5 ? better make it fun ^^
ROFL! Their comments are always the same old stories, repeat and repeat again….
kekeeke, i wonder what pills they take, they seem never got tired…XDD
Pills of delusion? 🙂
@shadow : they better give me some, if i won’t get tired after taken it XDDD
Guys I will join u all after my lecture
@all
I already said that I’m sorry.
I just think what I said, and maybe it just make all of you mad, sorry.
I’m sorry I already read the rules, and I understand that is my fault for bring homin in here.
But, I just react from the article, because they said about coming as 5.
I’m sorry, I know I wrong, I shouldn’t tell my opinion or wish in here.
I Just think I can free tell what I want, of it’s still connect with the article.
My apologize, If you think I don’t respect you.
@murasaki
I don’t bring Yunjae in here, you can check all my word I never bring Yunjae here 🙂
I respect all of you, because we love JYJ.
And I already said, I’m sorry.
It just my opinion.
@seobehrin
Tq dear for understand me, as I said, we have different opinion, but we love same person. We love JYj 🙂
I don’t want make a war here or make a trouble, so I’m sorry for my word.
@jaemi
I never try to influence any other you to believe in my side.
Because I respect all of you.
And we have different way to think, for each other person, there’s no person thinking in same way.
first, I don’t think My word up there will make all of you feel disrespect.
But now, if you feel that, I’m so sorry.
I will take a note that, in every article, which is tell about dbsk or homin I should not bring my opinion and wish about them.
Sorry 🙂
I send you love sweet one. Whatever your beliefs are, I rarely see someone who stands up for what she believes in with such humility and tenderness. You keep going back to the love when getting attacked or told to go away: I give you A LOT OF credit for that.
It is not easy to remember the love when being shut down or feeling threatened.
@emma lin
Tq for understand me 🙂
Yes, even I Must said I’m Hurt, but I love them Too much and when I realize, My Head directly told me that this is my fault. And I Understand why My word Can’t except in here.
And yes, That’s my fault.
If you call me Blind love, yes, I’m the one on it.
I just think we have some thing that we Love JYJ so why must we end up with war?
And I Know, I must respect all of it, bcoz it’s JYJ fans site 🙂
And, once My apologize If I create trouble here.
Poor Avex!! They have to recycle the idea of Tohoshiki’s reunion in order to gain money/support from the fans. And poor OT5 fans who are still believing all the shits that Avex come up with.
Even an antique ahjuhma like me can see through Avex’s desperation. Like hell Avex. After what you have done to JYJ all these 2 years, you think it is as easy as blinking the eye to get our boys to your side? Oh please, enough is enough. You are just a moron who is GILA TALAK in my language!!
Let me quote what what uri Yoochun has been saying, in case you have grown badly deaf /Hyppo Deaf: FUCK YOU, NO MORE TALK
Why are they using JYJ to market Homin? I thought those two are doing well in Japan with their current promotions. This is total hypocrisy. AVEX & SME Japan are trying their utmost to erase JYJ in the entertainment industries of both Korea and Japan but they still use Jaechunsu to make Homin relevant. Aren’t they satisfied with the profit Homin are generating, that is, if they’re really making $$?… Yoochun has always been the least vocal one among the 3 but when you try to analyze his
answers regarding those 2, you’ll realize that he’s trying to tell everyone to just
MOVE ON. After their final performance in the concert (cant remember if it was in Korea or Japan — it was after their US concert tour), as they were leaving the stage, Yoochun suddenly held up his mic chanting “J-Y-J” and encouraging the fans to chant with him. At their Sweet Day fanmeet, he told the fans, “JYJ…. isn’t that a nice name?”. When he was asked in an interview if there will be a reconciliation among the 5 members, he said, “deep wounds, etc. happened. It will take a very long time. If it happens, it happens.”.. Lastly, at their recent Lotte fan meet, Yoochun addressed Jaejong as their “Leader”. When the MC told JJ that he was voted the sexiest man in Spain, Yoochun butted in, “Jaejoong, a member of JYJ…”. That speaks volumes. Yoochun wants to be known as a member of JYJ. Same goes with JJ and JS. YC keeps on reiterating the name “JYJ” in their fan meetings and concerts. All 3 of them are together right now because they have the same visions. It’s like a marriage, if you and your husband/wife don’t have the same beliefs, principles and visions, the marriage will not work. Same goes for any type of relationship, be it on a business, work, or friendship. If JYJ were trying to reach out with those two, I don’t think it’s for the purpose of reuniting. Jaechunsu just want to have a closure and let bygones be bygones. So, MOVE ON, people!
@pian…love your comment so much.
Lol, like Ayu hasn’t got better things to do than negotiate a tohoshinki reunion. This article reeks of bs just like every other article about a reunion.
We close with april mop (∩.∩)
While reading some comments (okay,all comments) here ,guys, I started crying.
Well, you don’t even know if JYJ want the reunion or not so don’t judge. No one knows actual reason why HOMIN stayed,They should have reasons too. I have read one article about a ‘may-be-a-reason’ and I agree with that…whatever,o one cares about AVEX.
we will use any possibility to get them together again,HOWEVER is that possible.
some of you said when they read “AKTF” they puke xD also might puke when they read “TVXQ” and stuff XD people,YOU PUKE AT JAEJOONG’s TATTOOS? XD lol.
well, ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH AND OPE TO THE END. DB5K !!!
and I won’t ever get tired of writing this XD so,puke until you can XD
I will laugh very loudly at you when you see their comeback concert XDDD ~~
cheers ^^
Another one~ *yawns* ヽ(´ー`)┌
i’m getting sleepy too, wanna lay side by side with jae and me, shadow ? i’ll share him with you now ^^
Of coz. And I would LOVE to see his tattoos close up! 😀 and kiss them. 😛
@ka_vie @Shadow, Hey, don’t leave me out!! *Squeeze in-between. And I will LOVE to see his tattoos too….up-close and personally, yum~~
Hey, you squeeze between @Ka_vie & Jae, k?
I want to be on Jae’s left so as to see his tattoos more clearly. 😀
no way ! i’m attached to jae so you can’t squeeze in XDD
¡NO ONE CAN SLEEP WITH JAE! No matter how bored you are, If I’m not in here, no one is allowed to sleep with Jae, including you My Lady Vampire. ¡Jae is mine! LOL, you all know I’m crazy about Jaelicious Kim Jaejoong 😉
@ shuheilove
yes yes … this has been a long day .. excuse me I feel sleepy .. if anyone needs me I’ll be in Jae’s room… I mean my room .
@Meme
I love you my dear, but don’t you dare to do so in my face; ok? On the contrary I will……………ehh…¿Where are you?
¿Meme? ¿Meme??????? ¡Yikes! ¡She ran with Jae!!!! 😉
@ shuheilove
I’m sorry but the man needs to rest from all this … will pick up Yoochun and Junsu too .. * drives away in Jae’s car*
@Meme
LOL sweetie, you can’t pick up Chun and Su using Jae’s car to run away, unless you’re planning to put them into the trunk because his Lambo is for two passengers only. Better let me take ChunSu with me. I will take good care of them; I promise 😉 😉
@ shuheilove
no problem there is plenty of room on my lap …. wait .. I can’t drive like this … Damn !
ok .. you take them for now and we can meet later .
¡ROFLMAOOO! @Meme, dear, you’re the best. I’m laughing like crazy just imagining you trying to drive while ChunSu are sitting over your lap……………… ¡ROFL!
wow another juvenile came again
nee guys can i join with u guys ? is there any space for came to your place since it’s seem already full
@Miaw
No my dear, come and join us. There will always be a very special place for you amongst us my beloved girl. ¿Who do you want to care for? ¿Chun or Su? Sorry; @Meme ran with Jae 😉
Ya, another juvenile.
We can ‘smell’ them from afar~ 😀
And also the comments mostly the same, perhaps they copied one another, haha~~
well.. i prefer with chunnie tattoo then..have fun Jaeharem!! 😀
Yuchun’s tattoos are on the waist to his…….*wink 😛
…..well first i’m gonna hunting @meme and take Jae bak with me and then i’m gonna have fun with Chun and Su also with Jae kekekekeke
@Miaw
¿So you want to take the three of them with you? NOOOO! I won’t let you. I better grab their hands and run as fast as I can ———–> ~~~
NO TO REUNION
JYJ FANS ONLY WANT JYJ
We only want Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu
if you want some more and a reunion you’re free to write that in ot5 sites, why do you have to preach that here, we’re HAPPY WITH THREE PEOPLE JYJ, not 5!
I am LOL very loudly that is not going to happen , buahahah~~ And you can sob your heart’s out.
Oh forgot to add on “CHEERS” XD
Oh yes , remember to see a doctor if you ever finish puking…it may be an illness…. 😛
Could you please stop using this AKTF bullshit left & right? Using these words without even knowing the real meaning behind them makes YOU look stupid. Maybe in your delusional world AKTF = ‘selfishly believing in the possibility of TVXQ being 5 again’, in REAL WORLD it means nothing of the sort. Do your research first before coming here and making a fool of yourself.
cheers
Always keep the faith is not mean will back to be 5… ^^
And never judge they feeling, the one we said here is : we don’t want they back to be five not like selfish fans that say they MUST back to be five.
I always keep the faith for Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu.
poor Jaejoong, always abusing JYJs ideas for their selfish reasons… I feel sorry that this awesome wisdom became such a cliché bc of ppl like this
Well Hello There……
@BuJex
i’ve done puking.
ah, i need some refreshment, so whatever you’ve been smoking now, can you give some of it ? i wanna get high too…..
ROFL^^
@BuJex : We don’t know their minds, that’s right..
All we do know is our heart and mind only.
Now let me ask you a question? Do you have a heart? Are you a human? (Remember your dearest oppa called Junsu inhuman.. grrrrrrr)
If you really a human and have a heart and also still can think clearly (have a healthy mind).. imagine that your loved ones, let say your parent or your brothers/sister are being hurt by someone who used to called your family also. What will you do..
Will you stand still and wish for them to stay together?
And please, kept your comment about non-JYJ outside this web. I recomend you to buy some reading glasses, cause i think you can’t read the regulations clearly with your own two eyes..
And about AKTF.. What is faith anyway?
I only know hardwork.. Faith without hardwork is bullsh*t..
And don’t you tell me that JYJ hasn’t work hard enough.
And about the tattoo in JJ chest. I never imagined I puke it.. maybe lick it a bit.. XD
About comeback concert together.. *smh…
@Lyn……Erm……..I want to lick…. a lot, can I? XD
This is JYJ3.net~ ^^
Omg…omg….what is this? Why my hubby’s tattoos being mentioned here? And who wanna kiss his tattoos? Over my cute body first, hahaha….
Oops, sorry I replied under the delusional fans. I didn’t see you, coz me went crazy whenever Jae’s tattoos being mentioned, lmao
if they ever comeback as db5k, i will also laugh happily for jaejoong, yoochun, and junsu — everyone here probably will, because we love JYJ. because in whatever form, they are JYJ whom we loved and cared. yeah, you can wait until that time when you finally can laugh, i don’t know how long you have to wait btw… and if that time will ever come. and while you’re waiting something that’s not certain, we JYJ fans will laugh happily at each of our boys’ concerts and achievements NOW. something that is REAL and not mere fantasy.
Ah the big comeback reunion. How DOES it play out in your ot5 heads? Coz in the real world it plays out something like this.
Junsu: “Hi Min, remember when you called me Inhuman?”
CM: “‘Cuse me, brb, punching Betraydol Jaejoong”
YH: “So I’m leader ok? Just so we are straight here” (um, pun intended!)
YC: “Uh, so I kinda think JJ will be able to stand up to SM better tbh. Don’t you like yachts?”
Avex: “So happy we can take your money again like this”
JJ: “No” (Oppar being greedy and all)
SM: “YunJae, look cozy for the cameras”
Coordi Noona: “JUST YOU TRY!”
OT5s: “…………………………………………………………”
*wind blows red balloons up and away*
Be sure to drop in again and give us your fairytale version tho! We here love a laugh. When we’re not puking. (Over reunion comments)
@BuJex
Yes we don’t know the reasons why the 2 stayed.All we saw was the nasty comments made by them on tv towards to their fellow members.That was enough for me to judge.
Kim Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun are humans who we to love and estimate learned just like their music. They give stop and Kraft in our lives and exactly the same would like one as a loving fan you to stop to give and you thank for which them for us to do. The past brought open wounds the time to healing needs, this time should one to the fans also gives thinks I. All enterprises receive more attention by that act and the popularity of JYJ. As a fan I concentrate now on JYJ and can you acting, it am it be lived and you am no small children. They know which you to do must and go their way. We fans should trust you and believe rumors only then if them by JYJ were confirmed. The intentions which behind such actions to put can be only speculated eh and to us fans weakens such a thing. Thus we laugh together with the boys and refuel new Kraft by their music ♥
I admit, I still love TVXQ (with five members) and it’s not easy to abolish that lingering affection.
But I know and I’m fully aware that Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu were already hurt enough. As someone who loves them, why force something to work together if they’ll end up being divided even more. Tch! AVEX shouldn’t be playing with people’s emotions or hell will break loose! pfft! I know AVEX (or SM maybe) has underlying evil agendas in reuniting TVXQ and I’m not blind enough to see. In any way, they still won’t merit my support and sympathy.
But from the start it wasn’t them who I loved anyways but the boys. Because I care and love them, where JYJ is now happy there I’ll also be!
We happy with JYJ now, please don’t ruin our happiness!
And avex just go to hell, if hell accept you ~_~
plzzz dont give me a hopesTT.TT
i luv if the boys reunion but this time is just mehhh….they are so many to solve…they need some time
no no. this will never happen. it’s the rumor.this will never happen. and JYJ will never accept this.
cassiopeias always underestimate us JYJ fans. they say we don’t have offical fanclub. in my country, jyj fanclub’s name is orion(Orion, often referred to as The Hunter, is a prominent constellation located on the celestial equator and visible throughout the world. It is one of the most conspicuous, and most recognisable constellations in the night sky. Its name refers to Orion, a hunter in Greek mythology.) why don’t we make real FC for them to see how strong we are????????
I hope someone please tell Cjes about this. we’re independent from cassiopias!!!!!!!!
“The article goes on to state, “While the reunion of TVXQ is something that many fans are waiting, the small possibility of this actually happening is an indicator of Avex’s desperation,” hinting that Avex’s recent lack of success may be reason for pursuing such a unlikely project.
TVXQ fans responded to the news with, “While it would be great if reunion happens, it seems unlikely“, “They say Avex will lead the project but I can’t trust them“, and “I hope they stop writing these pointless reunion articles“.”
MTE!!!!!
I was not a fan of DBSK back in the day because I have not been into K pop that long. Once I found out about JYJ I fell in love with instantly . Since falling in love with JYJ I have checked out DBSK on youtube. I will admit they were an awsome and amazing group. I really do love some of thier songs like Mirotic and Love on ice (sorry if I got those titles wrong) ect.. I can see how fans fell in love with them hard. However, after learning and is still learning things about why they split up, I do not feel they should every re unite as one group. I feel too much has happened and too much time has passed. If some how they can work out thier friendship and all the legal stuff they maybe able to appear on stage together as separate groups and do a concert together. I mean it would be billed as JYJ and DBSK but never as just DBSK. JYJ has over come so much and gained so much why would they want to go back to being DBSK. I really do hope for JYJ that all the legal stuff can be worked out that they can perform in Japan again freely because that is just business. But it would not be worth it if they had to discontinue being JYJ. In my opinion they would be selling thier sole back to the devil. Once again I want to say I am not in favor of JYJ re uniting as DBSK. I hope I made sense and no one throws a brick at me, LOL!!
Questions:
1. Is the law suite that is mentioned the one that Avex is sueing JYJ for doing the Japan charity concert?
2. What does AKTF stand for?
I skip to the 2nd one: AKTF stand for “Alway Keep My Principles and Beliefs”. ALL JYJers know this.
Thanks for responding. After I posted the question I saw in a comment that it means “Always Keep The Faith” . This is the tatoo on Jae chest. I am aware of his tatoo but just could not match the letters to the saying.
Maybe this link will help? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/keep+faith
Or this? Warning: You may get Super Noosebleed~~
@2:23
Also, who is Ayumi Hamasaki?
Do you want to see her performance in you-tube? She is cool ^^
@flower: Ayumi Hamasaki? u better check her dear.. 🙂 she’s one of my fav after Utada Hikaru.. 🙂
Hey me too!
@ flower if you want to know who is ayumi hamasaki please go to GAPP …i post some video in GAPP i like her song too
Jae ever act in Ayumi’s blossom PV
i think it’s the first and the last time that Ayumi not appeared in her own PV at all
So funny is it!! JYJ has their own future, achievements and fans. Sometimes I feel unpleasant when someone call me Cassiopeia. I want a fanclub of JYJ too. About TVXQ5 comeback, I wonder how Avex do it??? After lots of bad things coming among 5 members, I don’t think that they can back as before, can sing, smile, cry together. How about Ayumi Hamasaki? Why is she here? She worked for the same company as 5 members, it doesn’t mean that she concerns about TVXQ5 comeback. LOL. Just funny! To me, I just love JYJ – Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu.
I just correct them and say “nope, I am a JYJ fan” XD
I love ‘n support 5 of them, and until now still…
I don’t care with 2 bullshit stands out there if they want to kill each other…i choose to love ”dreaming” 5 of them back together coz it fun ‘n make me happy…
I really respect ur opinion,and if you bash mine what so fucking ever….
Fiuhhh..finally thanks..
Speak English please~
Thanks.
ROFLLLLLLLLLL!!!
“coz it fun ‘n make me happy…” Ya, so fun LOL!! HAHAHAHA!!
Heh????
‘i choose to love ”dreaming” 5 of them back together coz it fun ‘n make me happy…’ Oh, here we go. The trademark, the trademark. Selfishness, wear it proudly!
@yan
….yeah, keep on dreaming…maybe you will find some sheeps in there for you to play with while you’re dreaming and waitingggg…
*nods* cool story bro.
just wait and see the reaction from SM and c-jes
i’m waiting for it ^^
just don’t bother five of them
it’s enough for them going through these difficult time
all we can do is supporting them no matter what 🙂
@Celina
“it’s enough for them going through these difficult time
all we can do is supporting them no matter what ”
What or WHO ever in your life ever gave you the idea that you should “support someone no matter what??” So…. if a murderer – you support them. If a thief – you support them. If a molester of children — you support them. Of course, these examples make no sense. Nor does supporting SM and Homin, who have shown themselves over and over again to be crashingly unworthy of your continued blind support. This kind of behavior is uneducated and foolish. Whoever told you this was a good idea??
I don’t wanna them to reunite even if HM get out of SME..
collaborate YES but not as one group anymore..
the betrayal is already done..
and it is crystal clear that the relationship between JYJ and HM is not as deep as we initially thought..
JYJ is brothers.. TVXQ5 is not..
I rest my case!
NO CHANCE, ZILCH, ZERO, NADA..
I’ve lost the hope of them reuniting as five and continue their activities as five..
I’ve woken-up..
I can only wish that their friendship be rebuilt they have such a beautiful one and a collaboration album too..
but them as five?? NO
To many AWFUL things happened..
To many BAD words spoken..
To many hearts had been broken..
NO MORE..
I’ll just be happy for JYJ in what decision they make..
and wish the other side luck..
Is the comments here are going to be going on and on and on till the post disappear? Is there any comments beyond my statement here? It my Lunar New Year now, maybe I shall gamble on this how long the post is going to out-wit, out-win and out-play the professor’s post?
Stay tune everyone XD
Opps 430 replies at-the-moment. WOW! ANYMORE COMING? YOOOHOOO!!!
@murasaki I think will keep coming dear, just be ready for tht, hehehe…btw, Happy Lunar New Year^^
Ya, it did, more comments below, hahaha!! Thank you and to you too?
@murasaki
No sweety,I didn’t celebrate CNY, but still got the one day holiday, hehehe…nice to meet you, and so much fun read your all comments^^
hhhhhhhhhhhhh loool
Your comments are so Funny XD
“all 5 members have to be together to represent the name of ‘DBSK’ we are family, the same team, the ones who support us is Cassiopeia” -Jung Yunho
“A team has to be 5 members!” – Kim Jaejoong
“we have always been together as 5”- Park Yoochun
“i think its the best when all 5 members of TVXQ work together” – Kim Junsu
“only when the 5 of us are together, are we called TVXQ!” – Shim Changmin
ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH!!
THANK TO CASSIEAST!!
DB5K, TVFXQ, ONLY FIVE FOREVER FIVE!!
Another~~~~
Yo, Wrong site!!!
@shadow ..
LOL ..be patient and stay calm …
i just read this news .. ohh… Shitt… this is Joke .. i dont want it … JYJ are JYJ .. they are proper being trio …and we LOVE THEM as JYJ …
n did u know..?? i laughed when u comment like (another ..) …
i guess that u counted all of ot5 fans in here … ^_*
I can’t get my numbers right…. They come too fast to count! Lol^^
HAHAHAHAHA!
aaaa..
i miss those time ><
The quotes are like 5 yrs old, a lot of things happened since then, baby…especially the last two. It might be healthier to live in the ‘now’ than the ‘past’, ne.
lmaoo when was that?? uhh 3 years ago? or maybe 4??
i think you forget the fact that homin already stated that tvxq is only for two XD
but then again… which era are you living in?? 2008?
LOL all of those quotes are ages old and have no bearing whatsoever anymore.
Go to your five world!!!!
“all 5 members have to be together to represent the name of ‘DBSK’ we are family, the same team, the ones who support us is Cassiopeia” -Jung Yunho
WILL you please slap this to your great leader, he might have a selected amnesia and he forgot that he said these words.
“only when the 5 of us are together, are we called TVXQ!” – Shim Changmin
Make giant banners of this statement and hang them everywhere, wave them high everytime they perform on stage, to remind the genius Changmin that he said this.
No problem with JaeChunSu, they called themseves JYJ
and to all Cassies and Bigeast, can you count how many people are on stage now claiming themselves as TVXQ ?
This article is translated and posted in dongbangbata, an OT5 site, why are you squeezing yourself here, it’s JYJ3 if I remind you.
That fella quoted that is indirectly telling us we are stupid right? We have noonas here way older than JYJ, LOL!!
well it boomerang to her 100% times more than to us if that’s what she intend to convey.
…Don’t forget the Ahjummas too….XDD!!!
LOL, I have a daughter old enough to marry JJ, Chun or Su. ¿Is she suggesting that I am a silly teenager just like her? No comparisons please. I’m old enough to know the ground where am I standing.
@Shuheilove
” I have a daughter old enough to marry JJ, Chun or Su. ”
I have a daughter way too old to marry JJ, Chun or Su. lol The OT5 kiddies who proudly know nothing are having a hard time of convincing me of much of anything. Shoo! Shoo, little OT5 kiddies! This is enough now. Go away.
Ok, I may not have children, but I am a proud ahjumma JYJ fan! I know how to stand my ground, so don’t even begin to think you can change any hearts or minds on THIS site!
IN THE END, IT IS JYJ!
super agree^^
I always wonder if you people ever come back to read the responses to your comment after you finished posting this.
Dee, probably not. And even if they did, I bet they simply just don’t get it. 😉
HOORAY OPPARS 4EVARRRR11111111. LOL.
Oh, you guys….When will you ever wake up….Too much sleeping pills can result to overdose, you know.
“all 5 members have to be together to represent the name of ‘DBSK’ we are family, the same team, the ones who support us is Cassiopeia” -Jung Yunho
only when the 5 of us are together, are we called TVXQ!” – Shim Changmin”
All 5, All 5…and yet there are only two who think they can continue as DBSK…really HoMin?
Do I smell the bitter stench of hypocrisy?
“all 5 members have to be together to represent the name of ‘DBSK’ we are family, the same team, the ones who support us is Cassiopeia” -Jung Yunho
“ONLY WHEN THE 5 OF US are together, are we called TVXQ!” – Shim Changmin
don’t use those b*llsh*t statement again
those two just eat up their own words back to their mouth again
they said when the 5 of them but what the fact totally different
only those two who claimed as TVXQ! no 5 anymore
when u gonna wake up from those b*llsh*t worlds
“During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’, thus rendering the planned collaboration. ”
Can someone enlighten me on this? This didn’t fall right by me. I can see divas spelled right there.
When I think about it, before a reunion can happen. These five should be able to face each other face to face. I dunno about others, but JYJ will have no qualms in facing the other two. What do you think about those who called Junsu inhuman and has been reciting the mantra that they made the right decision in staying with sme.
Avex, just milk the tvxq name .. stop dragging JYJ into your silly propaganda.
Oh god… you guys really unrespect to each people opinion.nothing else,only bullshit comment…
@shadow: thanks dear and I try to speak prop here…and i’m sure all know what I am saying…
Where you come from? Mars
And why are you doing here then? 🙂
Man, some people just like to self-torture eh…
Oh, btw, now that you’re using proper English, I can understand you. I’m sorry I don’t understand your language initially. My bad.
Just wondering, does a change in nick and email address does a difference to the level of English used? Hmm…
Opps, my apology again.
I mistaken you to be someone else as you all talk the same. My bad~
@Shadow I did know you are a Martian?? XD
@Murasaki
Shhhhhhhhhh~ it’s supposed to be a secret!
I come with Jae. 😀
Them crybaby companies seriously got to stop using this “TVXQ reunion” thing to milk their business….
the fans have moved on so should you…
Haha…The headlines. The title.
Hey, AVEX, dream on. Cozio, dream on.
That’s all this is worth. Pfft 😀
LOOKS! Everybody agree for a collaboration right? But comeback as 1 together? Hmmm… just dream about it. LISTEN! I don’t hate DBSK (2people) since I am Cassiopeia (and my heart hurts to when JYJers bashing those delusional-cute-little-young-fan girl) … always be. I love 5 of them but come on just accept the truth that they are now in two different group. Yeah, we don’t know if it will be JYJ choice to reunite (it won’t be happen i think)… But the path they choose now is the best for them.
Yeah, if the matter had solved, we can hope them to sing on one stage, singing their old songs again… But as JYJ and DBSK.
Just imagine… There are many JYJ new fans that don’t even know about DBSK and someday when they reunite (if they reunite)… Yunho and Changmin will just pop out and say, “Hello, we are the rest of the member. We are coming back together again”. What will the JYJers reaction? -___________- Even it’s really hard to imagine.
Okay, I admit that I was some kind of that delusional fans back then when I first know them, but, I matured with them and I live with JYJ and DBSK now… and yeah, I love JYJ more than DBSK… That’s why I often come here… BECAUSE I LOVE JYJ! REALLY LOVE THEM! It doesn’t matter if they’ll be JYJ forever… But, I am still a Cassiopeia. So, please, JYJers, I know that you’re disgusted with this delusional-stupid-want to be puked-fandom called Cassiopeia, but please put some respect on us since not all of us are delusional like you think
past is past… present time is more important. future??? we’ll see. well frm what i see JYJ are moving forward already… respect? then respect JYJers too… u can expect this kind of reaction since this is JYJ3 site not OT5 site. n what is more important try to respect JYJ decisions too.. try to appreciate JYJ hardwork.
Of course I respect JYJers too, since I love JYJ, damn it. I respect their decision and I’m really appreciating their hardwork -_-
To @sandals Just stop in there, no more comment please bfr getting worse
Actually I have no interest in any kind of collaboration or reunion. JYJ chose an extremely hard road that they have fought their way through and we fans of theirs have fought through as well. The other two chose a more secure path, which would have been ok with me, but when they acted so spitefully toward JYJ, that was it for me. In the midst of JYJ’s battle with SM/AVEX, the other 2 helped the oppressors in attacking JYJ. I would have too much to forgive to enjoy that collaboration. And I wouldn’t want JYJ to have to go through that as well.
I was a passionate DB5K fan and still watch all their videos and listen to their music. But that was then, and this is now.
@Yoochun’s Sandals respect is no problem if they would also start respecting JYJ’s and JYJ fans’ stance on the matter. 🙂
@Yuchun’s Sandals
” So, please, JYJers, I know that you’re disgusted with this delusional-stupid-want to be puked-fandom called Cassiopeia, but please put some respect on us since not all of us are delusional like you think”
I’m just curious to know what form that “respect” that you request for OT5s might look like? Many of us here, the majority in fact, are fairly serious minded people who began following the lawsuit 2 years ago and have done countless hours of research and reading on this subject. We have been interested in the process of getting justice for this very talented group of men, JYJ. So when willfully blind, rude and uninformed OT5s come here (who have NOT done all the reading and do NOT know the first thing about the actual facts of the situation) and start using the exact same catch-phrases and rationalized excuses that all the others before them have used (sort of like they have all been brainwashed by the same source) many of us get short-tempered with them after a while. So how would you suggest we respect them? They came here to Our House. When strangers show up at your house, push their way in the door and start calling you names, how much respect do YOU show THEM?
+1, what would the boys think if they read such vicious comments? It’s not the name’s taboo
*not like
¿What are you talking about? I barely understand you girl.
@Junsubiased
“+1, what would the boys think if they read such vicious comments? It’s not the name’s taboo”
Vicious?? What is vicious about the simple truth of the matter? Anyone who thinks that reality is “vicious” and nonsensical daydreams where 5 men that they have never met will do as they want because they want it is just kidding themselves. If they are not actual children, then they are being childish.
As to what the boys would think (and by this I hope you are referring to JYJ) I think they are very very VERY thankful to and for their fandom and the success that we have insured for them in the last 2 years. I base this on literally EVERYTHING they have said on the subject of their fans. We have their backs in this terrible, ugly war with SM and AVEX. They know that nothing can stop them as long as we believe in their fight and support their efforts.
Homin stole their name, the name that the members of JYJ had worked hard as for 7 years, no fair compensation offered, no explanation given. Homin is now claiming sole benefit to that great legacy. Even hearing the name must hurt JYJ now!
Avex a savior ?! ò_ó ….You’d think they’d at least tried not to sound any more shameless than they already are … but no .
whatever … nothing new here … same nonsense every time and same people getting their hopes up .
I’m not waiting for anything but the new JYJ album and the member’s solo works ( Yoochun’s drama , Junsu’s musical and hopefully Jaejoong’s has something set up for us ) … if people want to wast their time on other things then fine .
For OT5, please remember that Yunho already said that he wanted to continue 2OHO & 2VXQ with Changmin only, so please stop bugging JYJ to reunite with them.
If you want JYJ’s fans to respect you, you should respect JYJ’s decisions first; those are: start their career as JYJ, out from SME & Avex and work with C-JeS.
Oh! When U-know said that and also see this “During last year’s Avex’s live event, A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho” It really starts to piss me off.
JYJ never complain or say things about you. Only once or twice JJ said “he miss Uknow and changmin”. Why 2VQX always hurt JYJ?
omg, they really said that? the nerve .. but then again, they have said worse things about JYJ so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised ..
Seriously, do you guys really want JYJ to collaborate with these kind of geese ..err guys? JYJ is making progress beyond sme or avex’s imagination .. just when they thought JYJ were done for, all the prayers of their fans helped them go through all that crap they had to go through while others just bash them on tv and called them unmentionable names.
JYJ’s level is already on a different plane. Do we need to spell it out to sme or to avex or to others who actually think that sme/avex still has some hold over JYJ and that it’s still within their grasp to manipulate a reunion of such? The time for that collaboration and or reunion has long come and gone. There was a time when I believe JYJ really hungered to just see and speak with the other two. But now, I think the three has already settled on a life without them. Just as JYJ fans have, (and of course there are others who don’t really care about the other two since they are just fans of just JYJ in the first place.)
Savior? wrong title reporter .. it’s avex who needs saving .. not JYJ or TVXQ5.
NO REUNION!! JYJ is much better this way. Avex, you should be the one to cut off your relationship with sm and start supporting JYJ!!!
LOL , ot5 fans who come and comment here is so funny by the way.
Looks like all of you made..hmm what should i call… “a declaration of love” about dbsk5…here in JYJ3 site a place where’s JYJ only fans belong and than you asking for a respect too tsk…actually who should learn first about that “respectful” things lol
Hmmm… I think it’s good for them. If avex or sm gonna bring back tvxq as 5 again why not? I’m not choose jyj or homin. I know you all love jyj very much and don’t want them back as 5 again. But if you truly love jyj, make them happy guys don’t judge like this.. This is make them sad if jyj read your comments.. I know, I sounds like otl5 and its true I’m love 5tvxq.. And this is my little hope for them.. Don’t hate homin, I think homin have another descision for not leave sm. Soo don’t hate homin pleasee.. I love jyj very much toooo just like you
*i know its jyj site but I hate if they judge not true about homin. I’m sorry guys.. Sorry for my bad grammar.
and it would be more good if JYJ and HM the one who decide if they wanna reunion or not, if avex and SM who decide this things i knew this is more than just because they need more money and profit from this boys.
and one things JYJ never ever want comeback to SM, avex again and i thing HM never ever want to leave SM/avex, so reunion..hmmm..i don’t things it would be happen.
There are reasons for people to dislike or feel indifferent for Homin. And if you love the 5 and follow the case closely then you would know the reason.
You can plead and hope for us to support Homin but did we ever ask Homin’s fans to support JYJ? You can love Homin all you want, but don’t force us to love someone we don’t.
“But if you truly love jyj, make them happy guys don’t judge like this.. This is make them sad if jyj read your comments..” Heh. That’s funny. Make them sad? Why would we when seem to be the only ones who truly support their choices to BE JYJ? We’re only stating the facts as we see it, no harsh-feelings were intended, though if they come across as harsh to you OT5s, then I don’t think that’s our problem. Truth sometimes hurts, doesn’t it? And the truth is, both parties had choices. Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu chose their path by becoming JYJ, Homin chose theirs by staying with SME. I don’t believe it’s under the jurisdiction of either SME or Avex to bring back the five. JYJ has a say in the matter now, so if ever, the negotiation would be between SME/AVEX and JYJ, not between SME and AVEX alone.
Also, I for one can say that I don’t hate Homin. I am simply indifferent towards them. And if there’s hate, that would’ve probably stemmed from continual disappointment and resentment from the actions they had done against JYJ.
april’s fool. i thought today still january
they always make april fool come sooner when they want to open a membership for bigeast just like last years lol
tsk. i’m just enjoying the past days in JYJ3 because of chun’s drama, their houses, and all. now here we go with another annoying rumor. thank you, AVEX! heh.
the thing is, if there ever a reunion, these guys are the one who will speak up first. if you believe these grown up men so much, including those other two, then you will believe them. not AVEX, not SM.
and i believe what jaejoong said about walking towards the future as JYJ, not DB5K. until jaejoong, yoochun, or junsu says otherwise, it’s always JYJ, and only JYJ for me.
i’ll SUPPORT them no matter what they choose. staying as 3 or becoming 5 doesn’t matter as long as they get what they want and am sure everyone out here will do the same 🙂
This is so pressure. My boys TT____TT you must stronger and stronger!!!
and i hated the way the said that A-Nation, the 2-members of Tohoshinki complained that ‘they do not want to stand on stage with Junho’. HA!! this is $%@@$%%^$$FDG#@!!
exactly! no one ever said that HoMin opposed Juno’s appearance, i read news which said it was SM instead.
Lol, everything bad Homin ever said/do to JYJ (and their acquaintances) always come back to SM… “SM force them” or “Homin doesn’t have any freedom” When can they be viewed as adults already?
Exactly, if Ayumi can voice out her thoughts loud and clear, I don’t see why Homin can’t. Please have some respect to your oppas, they’re grown up adults, they are not robots. I believe when they say or do something, they mean it, they love and proud of what they are doing. Weren’t they so PROUD that the great 2thoshinki gave the closing performance of A-Nation 2011 instead of Ayu?, they and their fandom were so happy claiming that they had outdone THSK5.
I had read the series of tweets of Ayumi and her friends during that incident. During the first phase of A-Nation, she and Junho had performed their duets and she was just surprised that during their last phase her setlist was changed and Junho was cast out. She was furious about that and complained/argued, but in the end another singer was to sing Junho’s part. As a sign of protest, she refused to give the closing stage. But of course, Homin’s camp had another version, of course to give full credit to the enormous popularity of 2hsk.
hello guys…
do you want to know why avex up this issue again??????
i open official web site HOMIN….they will be make realesed a new album at 14 march 2012…
maybe it is just strategy Avex to make Homin Album became a big hit….
or…
they want to sold out their dome concerts.
but someone said in akp, that their dome concerts are already sold out, thus JYJ is not needed!
I said to myself, then that’s good, don’t bother JYJ anymore.
AVEX are so funny ,,after what they do to JYJ are you thinking JYJ will return to AVEX?they are drinking some thing..they are trying to survive Use JYJ name..
OMG…506 comments… to read or not to read….hmm…….I usually read all the comments.. but..this…OMG…sigh..
n now it’s 911 comments..dang..
Daebaakkk!! 500++ comments.. don’t fight with each other yes.. 🙂 good night people, have a nice sleep.. *hug chunnie tight*
waa @putrihs we make count in this news
508 COMMENT !!!! FUHHH TOO MANY TROLL
WHERE IS my frying PANS !!!!!
Instead of saying Avex to become the “saviour” of the 5 boys, the whole thing sounds more like the 5 of them become the saviour of Avex!
I like and respect both JYJ and HoMin and hope they will reunite, BUT ONLY if it’s under their own will and happiness. JYJ left SM for a reason and HoMin stayed for a reason. If it’s going to be a happy reunion I will be more than happy and welcome!!
I guess it may be unwise for me, an OT5, to express that I like the five of them at this JYJ fan site. But please understand that there are still many sincere OT5 that support JYJ too – even if they will never be able to come back together as five again. I have been supporting Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu, and I understand and respect those JYJ-only fans too, even though they prefer JYJ to remain as a trio.
Let us all respect their choices, no matter what. This is what fans should be, isn’t it?
i kinda love you now ❤ smartest comment ~
Thanks so much for liking my comment!! I thought people might find me silly or sturbborn (and perhaps I am).
The comments are true feelings from the bottom of my heart and since I don’t know when, I can’t live a day without JYJ (and HoMin – as I have stated clearly, I like the five of them). And I am old enough to understand that things sometimes can never go the way I wanted, no matter how hard I tried. So I will just support their decisions and be a supportive fan!
OT5s are welcome here. You guys can come and spazz about JYJ with us as much as you want. There just comes to a point where we can’t tolerate OT5s who continues to disrespect the boys’ decisions.
Seriously, I cannot understand how one can say they love both JYJ and homin equally. Coz I cannot see how one can love JYJ and be oblivious to all the crap homin have said about JYJ. It’s already a given that SM will treat JYJ crappily, they even enlisted an ally in avex. I’ve stopped caring about homin’s use of the tvxq name even though homin is making it look like tvxq’s achievements were theirs all along and not with junsu, yuchun and jaejoong. Honestly, they probably need these “achievements” in their resume more than JYJ. Jae, chun and su are really doing well as JYJ and not living in the shadow of the once great TVXQ5.
So tell me, how can one profess to love and care for JYJ and turn a blind eye to the bashing homin did to JYJ? How can one love JYJ and turn all giddy at the thought of a collaboration with homin? I have yet to see how those two will have the nerve to face JYJ. I have yet to hear them apologize to JYJ. No amount of reason can justify the hurtful words they hurled at JYJ. It was like hitting JYJ when they were already down and where they hurt. Good thing, JYJ have a wonderful family and an equally wonderful fans to help them get through all that crap.
Tell me again, can one really love JYJ and homin equally or are they just after the hope that jyj and homin will once again be tvxq5 regardless of what jyj and homin really feel?
If both of you kids got in a fight and one seriously injures another. Do you disown him?
Hard for me.
@Emma Lin
The thing is though, they’re not kids, nor were they ever kids. They are adults, who have the option to choose what they want to do. They just so happened to choose the road that kicked one party down so they can get on the boat to ‘safety’. This is not about kids bashing childishly at each other’s faces. These are adults choosing to stab a knife to the people they declared more than once to be their ‘family’ and ‘brothers’. To compare the event that transpired to JYJ and Homin as both of your kids getting into a fight and one seriously injuring the other is out of context. Choices were made, harsh words were hurled when the other remained mum and was still trying to raise himself up.
It’s not a matter of disowning, it’s a matter of swallowing the transgressions that were piled up for two years against JYJ. It’s a matter of swallowing the fact that the bond you considered as family between two people and yourself meant nothing to the other party. As Yoochun has said, it’s not even a matter of one party being the better person this time around. Time can only tell. It’s hard to say when a bond was broken that harshly, that severely. Forgiveness in this case maybe easier for the sake of a past bond, but to recreate it again to how it was before? It seems highly unlikely to me. Time. Time may heal what was broken, but it’s not now. And the other two have yet to apologize instead of simply using sympathies from OT5s and perhaps the general public that they’re waiting for JYJ to come back to them. I won’t even go there. Too ridiculous.
@Emma Lin (@emma1329)
If it’s two adult males fighting, and one was hurt badly by the other.
You don’t own them anything, except which man do you want to support.
silly U, learn to think a bit further for you own peace of mind^^
Apples and Oranges here….but assuming JYJ/HM are the 2 kids in your case scenario:—-
1) I will do my best to find out the intent, motivations and truth behind the cause of that injury
2) I will NOT condone nor support the negative behavior of the one that caused (and continue to cause) that injury.
3) As an ex-OT5 (who still listens to DB5K/TH5K/TV5X music), this does not mean that I hate HM or ever wish them ill. I’ll always love them for who they WERE once upon a time but I refuse to allow that love to blind me to the truth, however painful it may be.
Simply put:—I can no longer in good conscience support their (active and passive) participatory roles in causing continued harm to their brothers even as they reap and co-opt all the benefits from their past shared legacy.
If there’s 1 thing both of these companies excel at, its the manipulation of the psychology of the Cassiopeia/BigEast fandom. After all, just like the young idols they churned out in masses, most of the OT5 fandom were carefully bred and cultivated since 2004 to be one of the most fiercely protective and “loyal” in all kpop fandoms.
Opportunistic ba*ds these 2 companies are, they now cheerfully encourage and promote that same twisted ‘loyalty” to generate sales, PR, image-control and cash-flow to their ailing businesses.
Sadly, many young and sentimental OT5/Cassies/BE all too gratefully buy into that sales-pitch because the truth (that HM actually made the choice to Re-sign with SM and as evidenced by their trash-talking on various shows/social media, might not wish to reunite with JYJ) simply hurts too much. It is so much easier for Cassies (and perhaps kinder to the preservation of our flawless OT5 images of everyone including HM) to dump the responsibility of any reunion possibility on the shoulders of JYJ.
I refuse to be a part of this.
To Cassies and OT5 I say this:– Either have the courage to face up to (the cowardice/fears of) your own denial or at the very least, Stop-Bullying-JYJ. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
(And as the fictional parent of the 2 fighting kids you mentioned——love or no love—- it will be wrong for me to condone misbehavior and I’ll be derelict in my parental duty if I don’t attempt to correct that. Rather than “disowning” that kid, I prefer showing that “kid” that his decisions/actions have consequences, and that I will no longer reward nor support —emotionally or financially—- his erroneous and injurious behavior. That why its called Tough Love.)
Sorry, my reply was for @Emma Lin.
And @ yurei—-great comments ^^
Hey, I was just saying:
Would be hard for me. Like in this situation, too.
I was hoping you could relate, but maybe not. I get it. Good day to you.
And by the way, for you all know, I can be almost old enough to be their mom…..so kids could be adult kids as well. (Not to give away my age or anything. 😉
By the way, I totally agree with how awful the companies are. All that I am saying is: just because you can’t understand something, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make sense. It just doesn’t make sense to you.
And thank god we don’t have to have everything make sense, either, in order to love and forgive.
Moving on……..(really, good day to you! 🙂 🙂 🙂
@livingfree
” If there’s 1 thing both of these companies excel at, its the manipulation of the psychology of the Cassiopeia/BigEast fandom.”
Great post from start to finish. 🙂 The above sentence really stood out for me, because no truer words have been said on the subject. Something almost akin to mind control has been going on with regard to these companies. There is NOTHING they will not do to sell their product.
@Emma Lin
May I point out to you that your mother/son analogy is quite flawed.
To insinuate a mother/son relationship between fans and JYJ/homin would be erroneous because a mother/son relationship involves certain physical, emotional and psychological complexities that defines the bond between mother and son. A mother nurtures, disciplines, indoctrinates, imbibes values, passes on beliefs in which a son and daughter eventually responds to. For a mother to be faced with a dilemma of disowning a son intentionally stabs another son in the back would indeed be difficult to ponder on.
If you, in any point in time, have had that motherly influence towards JYJ/homin, then don’t read on any further and accept my apologies for contradicting your mother/son analogy. But if you, just like any of us here, are mere fans whom JYJ/homin barely know exists as individuals, then the mother/son analogy is indeed flawed.
To me and several others here, JYJ and homin are just a bunch of guys who used to make good music under an agency. Three guys decided to leave because they felt undercompensated and oppressed while two decided to stay. No issue there, different folks, different strokes. It’s only when homin started bashing JYJ that I began disliking these two.
If this mother-son analogy is your effort to justify homin’s crudeness to JYJ, nice try but it won’t work. All am saying is that people can’t be saying they love JYJ and homin equally. One is bound to love one group more. That’s just my point. If one can obviously turn a blind eye to homin’s attitude towards JYJ, then this person obviously loves homin more. And we, who hurt for JYJ definitely loves JYJ more. We are here to support their plight and defend them with words in forums if we have to. Homin chose the easy path. They have the tvxq name, they have sm and avex’s backing. Their attitude towards JYJ was uncalled for.
@teya I respect your comment and your arguments.
As to your question about why one can like them all five equally? Seriously, I don’t know why. I remember Yoochun was always always my bias, but then I started to like Changmin, Jaejoong, Junsu and then Yunho, to the point that I think the five are equally important to me now. Perhaps I watched too many of their old videos and saw the awful performance the five made during and before the Mirotic era.
And because of caring about what JYJ and HomIn really feel, I mentioned earlier that I would only be glad if they all are happy about a reunion. If JYJ thinks it will be happier for them to remain as a trio, no matter how much I want to see the five standing on the stage together, I will stand by their decision and keep buying JYJ’s CDs.
@doubleJaeDee ‘Jaelollipop~’ Yes I agree with what you said and thanks for welcoming OT5s! I strongly agree with you that OT5 should also respect JYJ fans – I fully understand that some fans were so hurt after the breakup and now they only want to support one side. (I didn’t go through that stage, as I started to like the five of them after their break-up, but I can imagine how painful it can be). JYJ fans also have they own feelings and should be respected.
The most important thing is, we should “agree to differ” even though we have different views. Hope every one be happy during this New Year of the Dragon!! 😀
in regard of AKTF… have u ever HEARD this word from the 2…..????
all time i jst heard from My guyz.. JYJ…
please remain meee. thx
Thx.
for AVX…. hope they clean off the JOKER’s in its comp.
*smrepresentative.
Let me tell you some incident during the last quarter of 2009. I have mentioned this before but some of you may have missed it so I’ll repeat again. DBSK5 were supposed to have a Mirotic concert in Shenzhen. Even if JYJ already filed a case, they were still very much willing to fulfill the rest of their scheduled appearances. They asked SM Entertainment to show them the contract for this concert for clarifications but SME refused. The concert was cancelled….In Japan, they had scheduled performances for end of the year shows. JYJ and Homin flew in separate flights even if they were going to the same destinations. They were even in separate dressing rooms if I remember it right. And in case, you didn’t know, Breakout and With All My Heart videos were also done with separate schedules for JYJ and Homin. They were not allowed to interact with each other. The reason why I’m telling you this is because people who want a DBSK5 reunion have forgotten there are persons involved in such endeavor. Some OT5 fans are so selfish that they don’t realize how the scenario will be. It will just hurt. And I don’t want to see Homin being such a snob to our JYJ again as if they don’t exist. So to those dreaming of a reunion, is this the kind of situation you want? I don’t see any changes since 2009, in fact it got worse coz now we have the geese analogy, etc.
JYJ has said in an interview that they simply want to talk to Homin. JYJ has expressed that there was a time the 3 of them dreamed of Homin at the same time. Did Homin ever reciprocate when JYJ were reaching out to them? I don’t think so.
If some of you think JYJ are unhappy because they’re hurt by Homin, did it ever occur to you that they’re hurt because they’re being treated as outcast in their own country’s entertainment industry? And how hard it is for them because of all the obstacles they’re facing? JYJ’s career is not about Homin. They’ve got future plans that do not include Homin.
I don’t want a reunion anymore. I wanted it before and that was in 2009. I even offered masses, lighted candles and prayed novena so they’d get back together. lol! But destiny had better plans for JYJ. 😀
oopppsss…correction, it’s not With All My Heart but Toki Wo Tomete
most of jyj stans comment is really rude and don’t have any respect to each other. you keep telling the ot5 to keep dreaming, ot5 is delusional fans,etc when they’re just share their thoughts and hope. is it wrong to hope for something? they have a hope for db5k for reunion and same with you, you didn’t want jyj to reunion with homin. but, it is necessary for you to crushing their hope like that. you never think about their feelings. do you think it is easy for ot5 to support both of jyj and homin?
and WHAT IF… they reunite again? will you stop become jyj’s fans? you should think firstly before saying something you will regret it later. all I see in your comments just a hate towards ot5!!!
i agree with you sis ❤ ~~ FIGHTING !!!
AKTF~~
Do you know the real meaning with AKTF?
Don’t use it when you have not fully grasped the meaning.
Go and watch the Elle clip with JJ and then think about what you are writing.
THIS IS JYJ’s HOME!!
NOT OT5!!
Don’t come in here and preach about your beliefs!
Many of us here were once OT5s or one of the “enlightened” ones.
There is a BIG reason why we tell you the truth….. because it IS THE TRUTH!
If you did more research and more reading you will understand the protectiveness of JYJ fans.
AMEN to that!!
@kementari8
OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! FINALLY!!!! *shaking you hard* I’ve been so worried about you. *hugs you tight* I literally threw my arms in the air in excitement & relief when I saw your gravatar. Phew…. *hugging you again*
as for @!!!! you say we aren’t considering the feelings of OT5’s who are pushing for a DBSK reunion? Damn right we aren’t!! Because we JYJ fans are more concerned with the feelings of Jaejoong, Junsu & Chunnie, not with the feelings of OT5 fans who care more about their own fantasies than about the feelings of the 5 human beings they’re dreaming of.
KEMENTARI!!!!! HAPPPPPPPY! How are you doing, sister???? We’ve been SOOOOO worried about you!!! I almost fell out of my seat when I saw your name!
~HUGS YOU BIIIIIG HUGS!!!~
@Sapphire and @Springbok7
HELLO HELLO!!!!
I am back!!!
I am now on the road to a speedy recovery!!!
Thank you sooo much for the care!!!
I missed you guys while I was away!!
My dear woman, you have NO IDEA how relieved we were to see you. No idea!!!!
please drop me email if you can…. would like independent method of contact 🙂 my email’s on GAPP.
HUGS YOU and happy dancing around office. OMG you MADE MY DAY!!!! I’m so happy!
@Springbok7
Okies!!!
Huggies right back at ya!!! 🙂
Which GAPP do I look in for your email?
I will find it!!!
@kementari, it should be in today’s GAP, replied under your “i’m back” post. I didn’t want to put it in here… too many flies buzzing around 😉
AKTF was never meant to be used as a reunion of 5, never. And Jaejoong have clarified what it actually means to THEM (JYJ). Has Homin ever used that word, ever? No, because it belongs to JYJ, and they are using AKTF for their sole purpose because they want their fans to keep the faith of them, JYJ. Did I provide you with false information? Did I misconstrue any information?
We,JYJ fans, do not hate OT5. But I think what we mean with keep dreaming is that JYJ wouldn’t want to be under SM & Avex again. You know the reason well. So we say it’s the thing which cannot happen easily.
It’s ok to have hope. But don’t you think it’s a bit selfish to let JYJ go back to HELL again? For what have they been fighting hard for? If they must go back again..at the end..the result is NOTHING. This mean they fight for NOTHING. I don’t think it’s fair towards JYJ.
Of course OT5 want the reunion. But don’t you know that you put JYJ in the hard position everytime you say that? It hurts them a lot.
But you never know cause you guys always think about yourself and your own happiness.You want them 5 again..you want the reunion cause you want the old days..the great memories.But do you know..what is done, it’s done. You cannot change the thing. One thing you can do is to accept the reality and be happy with now.
I’m sorry, but this is JYJ fans’ home. You should not come to someone’s home to “teach” the ppl who live there what should they do. You may discuss about your beliefs in your fave site. Dont do it here, because most readers here do not share the same opinion.
No we are just fed up with the amount of false hope you guys are carrying when we all KNOW that JYJ is never going back to SM and Avex, and we all KNOW how much the twoshinki have publicly insulted the 3. So really, what does it add up to?
The fact is, many OT5 fans still cling onto this hope, which I think I would be fine with, if only OT5 fans actually respect and understand the decisions your boys made. Homin decide to stay with SM, and JYJ do not ever want to go back.
In addition to that, I think a lot of you still deny what has been said and done (and I am talking about Homin here) on their thoughts of JYJ. It’s right there in plain black and white. I stopped respecting Homin after that incident. I respect Jaejoong’s feelings however, with the fact that he still cherishes the two even from all the insults that have been thrown at JYJ.
There’s nothing wrong with sharing your dreams n hopes, but you’re doing it in the wrong site. This is a JYJ site, no one is obliged to agree with your ot5 sentiments about a reunion.
@ !!!! :
Quoted: most of jyj stans comment is really rude and don’t have any respect to each other.
Mine: Is it? I was served with yells when I asked fellow Cassie’s opinions of why they refuse to look at the current situation rather than looking back.
Can you call OT5 who came here and said things about HM and ignoring the regulation decent and respectful?
LOL @ you and your delusional OT5 group coming here thinking you would get some “I agree with you” from JYJ fans.
When are they coming back together exactly? You don’t know then shouldn’t go around saying OMGAAAHH THEY ARE COMING BACK AS 5, LOVE 5 FOREVER.
SMH at ppl like you who can’t differentiate between dream and reality.
Nothing wrong with dreaming, just that making ur dream sound like fact is completely idiotic.
As JYJ’s fans we obviously support whatever JYJ do, doesn’t mean we will support Homin oppars ofc
@!!!!!
” they have a hope for db5k for reunion and same with you, you didn’t want jyj to reunion with homin.”
WOW honey …. we JYJers never have and never will talk about reunion … cause we are very happy with JYJ … Junsu, Yoochun, and Jeajoong ….
and about JYJ to reunion with homin …. why cannot Homin reunion with JYJ … are you really OT5 … No you are not …..you have only two OPPA…. HO..MIN … why you guys always blame JYJ and JYJers … Keep the Head UP and Open your Eyes, Ear, and Mind … may be you will sense some truth about DBSK ….
Friendship between
I’m not against the reunion at all.But what I’m really against is that JYJ to be under SM and AVEX again.
Avex is NOT the “Saviour”. They may PRETEND to be..but we all know the reason behind this story.The reunion of 5TVXQ will bring Avex $$$$$$$$$$$ And that’s all what this shit company sees !!
Well that was a nice laugh for the day. Thanks for the joke Avex. JYJ will always only be JYJ to me. There origins are from DBSK, I do not want them to reunite with the other two members if anything, so many things have happened already. And all i want now is for JYJ to win this lawsuit and show the world that they are not greedy people and that they actually have legitat reasons to start this lawsuit with SM. I don’t know what’s between the memebers, but after HoMin’s un-necessary comments, I hope they at least have the decency to spare JYJ from the blame of this. Avex made the decision to drop them during the time of need, and now there crawling back to JYJ just because the three members are more popular with Japanese fans? Thats retarded. Plus they even had the audcaity to stop all of JYJ’s charity concerts that the boys tried to held to aid Japan through the tough time of the earthquake. “Fuck off, no more talk” Avex. JYJ for the win!
oh i missed all the fun! how disappointing! hehe~
u get to know who’s grown up when u see the comments… having said that, it’s past ur bed time ot5 Kids. shoooooo~! hehe~
parang nangbugaw lang ng langaw ah???
“Initially, Avex had a contract with JYJ’s management but due to a person with ‘dark background’ the contract was abruptly halted. Due to that reason” ” But, due to JYJ’s affiliation to the rumored ‘dark acquaintances’,
all what i see is avex trying to spread the same rumors again in Twisted and bad way
“it seems that it would not carry through.”
see they even admit it by themselves
“There are those rumors that Ayu is the middle person in coordinating for both parties to meet halfway for the sake of reunion”
I do not think Ayumi had dedicated her life to the reform between the two sides ! you know there are a lot of things happening in her life now she is trying hard to pass through it
“it was announced that AVEX and Ayumi Hamasaki are participating in TVXQ’s reunion project.” This came after AVEX reported low sales of their ballad tracks recently.”
It is clear that Avex is using everything in their hands to make up for their poor sales even if it was just rumors
Possibility of TVXQ reunion through Avex?
i think they are trying to be the heroes who did something no one could do to only improve their image and sales of course
” the small possibility of this actually happening is an indicator of Avex’s desperation,” hinting that Avex’s recent lack of success may be reason for pursuing such a unlikely project”
see that is what i mean.
“it may still be hard for AVEX to come through on the project and see that the reunion happens.” i agree
“I hope they stop writing these pointless reunion articles“. me too
maybe tohoshinki “WINTER ROSE ” lost fro KAT-TUN………
from the first day tohoshinki “WINTER ROSE ” in 2 Orichorn? chart
TVXQ not like old TVXQ anymore I like JYJ and they are superstar
without this Drama …
Jaejoong , Yoochun and Junsu <3333 Fighting
I agree completly with the fan comment of above. A reunion through AVEX is most unlikely, I don’t want to be a pessimist but a reunion through anyone seems downright impossible,specially after the way that SM,Avex and even the now only two members of TVXQ have treat it the JYJ members,so a reunion through JYJ ‘s arch enemy in Japan?Humm,don’t think so! Can you say hypocrite! I know that most fans would be thrill having old TVXQ back but a lot of hurt,resentiment and unjustice have to be wash up by the water under the bridge. Let’s only hope that the brotherhood that once unite them endures all the mess its going through and that be stronger that the selfserving actitude ,interests and ambition of the corporations. There’s some that need to make a lot of soul searching…
Avex is the saviour? I need to go to the toilet now for I am about to vomit.
LOL, very funny and disgusting at the same time (I’ve already explained why; the chaos and confusion they’ve created).
I missed the fun, I was sleeping ¡Grrrrrr! 😥
@gigikusakit: At first sight I thought you had been stroke by a lightning and yout houghts were confused, LOL, then I realized the one who were speaking out was another gal using your avatar LOL; my apologies dear 🙂
¡I want JYJ as JYJ forever!
shame on you sleeping at a time like this when Avex the savior is trying to reunite TVXQ again
¡Oh dear, please exxcuse me! I feeel very sorry, I wanted to kick some asses but my bed didn’t allow me. Besides, I don’t like the looks of this. I don’t trust Avex. They have something dirty under this rumor.
@Meme
Hugs you sweetie. It’s really nice to be kindly scolded by the ones you appreciate the most 😉
Avex’s ass is even bigger than SM ( if that’s even possible ) you will need big ass wipping equipment …
Admins, can we just have a like button at the end of every post .. am sure a lot of us just feels like agreeing to most of the statements here 🙂 There are several posts that just hits what most of us want to say but just can’t put to words. Others just write it down magnificently and all you can say is “Yeah, I like what you said. Totally in agreement with you.” 🙂
As some may know I am a new fan of JYJ. So I am still asking questions to get to know them. This maybe a stupid question to ask can someone tell me what lawsuit it is that everyone is refereing to? I thought the lawsuit JYJ had against SM so they could get out of thier contract was settled. JYJ is no longer under contract with SM correct? Also, they are not under Avex management because Avex concelled thier cotract with them. Now I read I believe posted on this site that Avex tried to stop JYJ from have the charity concerts in Japan. I think the concert was held on 2 days. However, they were not able to and JYJ still ended of doing the charity concert. So is the lawsuit from Avex sueing JYJ for doing the charity concert? Please someone explain to me I am so confused.
Also, what is OT5 stand for?
One true 5.
NO, it’s the lawsuit from C-Jes against Avex for blocking and interferring illegaly their activities in Japan, and to free JYJ from Avex’s contract ( which Avex chose to freeze with no apparent reason but to interfere with JYJ’s activities in Japan to damage them).
I can’t find the link on google…..the latest one about Avex was posted here, but said nothing about the ‘re-freshness’ of the freezing case…
@Jae&JYJ/HoMinforever
Dear you can look for the lawsuits and everything related in here:
http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/trans-111101-toshiro-ono-blogs-signs-of-progress-in-ongoing-lawsuits-between-jyjs-side-avexsm/
@Shuheilove thanks for info. I thought JYJ contract with Avex had been disolved. I thought that Avex had dropped JYJ and they were no longer in a contact with Avex. I did not know C-Jes were sueing Avex to get JYJ out of thier contract and to stop Avex for interfering with thier activites in Japan. JYJ did do the charity concerts in Japan last year correct?
Yes dear, they did but barely, with lots of trouble on their backs. They have their japanese fans support, and that has helped them to keep trying, but day by day it turns harder and harder because of Avex’s menaces and the lawsuits Avex has held over the venues which has dared to “host” JYJ’s concerts within their walls.
Thanks shuheilove. After some scrolling up and down….I finally saw this….:)
whoaaaaa XDDDDDD how can you blame homin,people? they are under that stupid SM which doesn’t allow them to do stuff they want or say things they want…
weeeell, I have never been so unrespected EVER in my life XD oh my Now i get the point when my friend told me not to join fanwars because that’s useless XD I only hurt myself,
DBSK will come back as five. That’s all.
MY RECOMMENDATION FOR OT5 – please just NEVER visit this site again xD masochism ! you’ll only get hurt and angry..and maybe get some kind recommendations to buy reading glasses ~ oh, and did you know that for keeping faith for FIVE means you have no heart? xD
oh heartless me~
I will just say SORRY (omgso gonna regret this x.x) for JYJers if my comment HURT their feelings AS MUCH as yours hurt me sooo…
and yeah…GUYS PLEASE STOP THIS fan wars will only hurt them.
oh and CHEERS again XD
errr in your dream @bujex
fan wars will only hurt them——> nope we’re not hurt and i dont care OT5,HOMIN STAN,JYJ STAN….I JUST LOVE JYJ …OKAY I’M DISLIKE YOU.. I’M JUST LAUGHING YOUR COMMENT ….HURT….WHO’S HURT…YOUR ASS!!!(sigh this second time i cursed people…)….and i’m just happy to TROLL IN YOUR COMMENT HAA!!
please go too @ALKPOP TO TROLLLLLLL
OR @SYC?—-what is site i dunno but many people recommendation just please go
AND CLICK X ON THE RIGHT AND PLEASE DON’T COMMENT AGAIN
um.. when i said hurting them with fan wars, i mean homin/jyj so we should stop that’s all i wante dto say
well,I said sorry and got even worse reaction is that normal? leave my ass alone,please xD
OKAY,this may be strange but after reading all comments you guys me made me overthink stuff , I can overcome my pride to tell this ^^~
okay,I think becoming a one band is mostly like a fairytale… but please understand for some of us that’s the only hope and okay okay if they don’t reunite… just i wish they could at least talk with each other and be friends wouldn’t it be nice to perform together someday to make fans happy?
AND AGAIN i am sorry ~ I hope THIS TIME no one will misunderstand me and curse my ass -_-‘
well yea,okay.be happy wish you all the happiness in the world.
@ BuJex:
Quoted: whoaaaaa XDDDDDD how can you blame homin,people? they are under that stupid SM which doesn’t allow them to do stuff they want or say things they want…
mine: Didn’t HoMin know that SM has always been stupid for long? That is why JYJ left that LSM jerk, right? Please do enlighten…:)
Quoted: DBSK will come back as five. That’s all.
Mine: Are you a necromancer?
Quoted: MY RECOMMENDATION FOR OT5 – please just NEVER visit this site again xD masochism ! you’ll only get hurt and angry..and maybe get some kind recommendations to buy reading glasses ~ oh, and did you know that for keeping faith for FIVE means you have no heart? xD
Mine: I love them 5. And I begin to love this site more. The main reason is because compared to Cassie’ walls which I joined because I can not find a page that supports HoMin as they are now. Keeping faith for Five did not mean that we have no hearts, but something to do with living in dream (hope for some people).
If we love them 5, we must put their happiness above us. If they are happy with being 2 groups, why are you not? Is that what you definition as loving them 5? Loving them from what you think the best for them? Not for what they consider the best for them?
Then my friend…..you don’t actually love them, but love what you want to think of them
Cheers!
Mi
Ignored the Mi….typo
love your comment …..i want some OT5 same like you
I was called a traitor LOL…..for supporting the 5 as 2 groups…..So weird! They are 2 groups now. Why would I act like they are still one? That’s creepy.
Finally realised the water was already boiling huh?
Frogs, like people only realise they’re being cooked alive cos they’ve been standing in the pot of warm water too long…
Please Hardcore OT5… Do yourselves a favor and dont test the waters HERE. you already know the name of the site, you already know the stance of people here. I actually don’t understand why you still keep on insisting and preaching to us your OT5 dreams.
Whatever we say, and however we say it, you will NEVER agree/understand us (though some say they do… >.>”’).
And no matter how much you say you just love and support all 5 and yet continue to disregard JYJ’s choice to be on their own and to succeed in the best of their abilities with your Happy Reunion Fantasies (and buying from AVEX & SME… bec of 2Hoshinki & 2TVXQ— hence, giving those 2 companies the money to keep on BLOCKING JYJ…), we will never understand you either.
So let’s be REALLY NICE TO EACH OTHER and just stay where we should be.
JYJ3 IS FOR JYJ FANS ONLY… THIS is our ONLY HOME.
You have a lot of places to go. So why waste seconds of your life being annoyed at us when you know what we’ll say in response?
It’s like an irresistible itch with some of them, they just can’t stop themselves from scratching it. LOL!
oh hi!??? i missed u!
Hahahaha!!! I keep seeing your comments here, then going back to our blog, but you haven’t replied yet!
ahhh sorry… i’m dead sleepy….
@BuJex, Huh…the old saying….you at the wrong place and time..
I find you @bujex is more butthurt than anyone here. Take a chill pill?
i want to have question?
Why many people say AKTF……..AKTF……AKTF………AKTFFFFFFF?
Jaejoong and Yoochun who only uses the phrase AKTF…right in his back…( i know this) BUT
yunho dan changmin using sentence AKTF ?when?why?please give link
this is just question!!!!please answer me
@ dolta (@dolta_07) : You need to ask some members at Cassie’s wall my dear. You might be served with loud yells (Capital letters usage) or make someone cry (just like I did)
Why bother? It was indeed in the past, just like DB5K term itself.
I believe to arise this rumor had around all the discussions over the reunification to terminate. If JYJ expressed itself to the rumors the fans will know whether it a reunification will give or not. How long should fans be held to all 5 still waited and in hope held? There would have to be either way an answering thereby the fans to know it sometime in front is. Unfortunately exactly this rumor will provide now for internal pressure with JYJ and TVXQ.
I hope that Avex or whowever initied these rumors stop it already.
Like really! You need to have some shame. You are confusing everyone! (specially Ot5) Stop giving them false hopes.
@ sashitd: Your avatar is my cellphone’s wallpaper……!
Btw….OT5 (wow, I am not fond of the name now) will consider anything as hope, regardless the source. Even a simple word like OT5 or AKTF will encourage them.
Really joke of the day! *puke* It’s not that I’m against to OT5, I really really want to see them together again but not with SM or AVEX!!!! I don’t want to see JYJ in hell again… It’s more likely HOMIN to CJES… keke~ but I don’t think homin can leave SM though… This is such a waste! “savior” my ass… stop posting this kind of joke Avex… you make me laugh!!! ok gotta sleep now… *kiss and hug my chunnie* -3- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ………….
As much as I love DB5K I don’t think is possible for them to be together in the same group (at least not now)
Even if JYJ, Homin and Avex want to make that possible (though i don’t think so … at least not from Avex, don’t know what the boys think about it :/), Homin have a contract with SM …. and thinking about all the things they have done to block JYJ activities in Korea, it’s impossible SM is gonna make things easy for JYJ (letting them perform in Japan (and with Homin))
I was DB5K fan to start with. And I still continue to support JYJ and HM as separate bands. Moreover, I don’t want them to come back together.
In my opinion, HM has nothing to do with this article. They once separated and have their own path. They deserve respects for what they did since their comeback and I don’t think people here should be kicked out just because they doesn’t offend HM and doesn’t think that they’re the greatest evil of the world. Just 5 of them had the way the out. And they chose it. So.. Furthermore, I don’t think HM want that much to come back.
As it comes to JYJ, they doesn’t have any reasons at all. I hate one thing about this article: that it’s says that HM and SM is the one who be persuaded. I think JYJ has more reasons NOT to come back as 5 even more than HM. They’re not stupid thanks God. Giving up everything they’ve worked for during 3 years is definitely not their thing to do.
So: if everybody is happy, that’s enough and there’s no reason to come back and mess with the past
I love them 5 too and now is supporting them as 2 groups.
Just one thing that needs correction there.
Quoted: I think JYJ has more reasons to come back as 5 even more than HM. They’re not stupid thanks God.
Mine: At least you add the fact that JYJ are not stupid. They are indeed incredibly smart. But saying JYJ has more reasons is absurd. They left SM and won the lawsuit. They were not happy in SME and had the courage to leave that jerk LSM. They have NO reasons to come back!
Sorry, my mistake, I wanted to say not to comeback 😀 forgot “not” while typing 😀
Okay….:D. Makes me wonder too….
OK. Though I’m glad that they thought of reunion but who is the one who want it? Avex or Homin? AVEX, right? So what about Homin?
Although I love DBSK but the reality of the situation now is not that easy. The relationship between the 5 of them is in a very deep hole now. I know JYJ can’t just cut off the contract with Avex which I hope they can. ~sigh~ So that they can have other management company to assist JYJ like CJES. 🙂
In truth, I want JYJ to stay just like they are now. Look at them now. So happy and the freedom they enjoy now. Look at their happy faces. Most importantly, look at how successful they are now, being independent. They evolves everyday and gets to try a lot of new challenges like CF, dramas and directing/producing and many more than when they’re with SME. They learnt how to deal with tough matters now and never give up. Right? People appreciate JYJ as a worthy individuals and being recognized around the world. They’re the only Kpop artist who dare to venture out to other foreign countries for concerts. I’m proud of the JYJ now. So, I don’t want DBSK to be reunited, not now not ever if Homin does not speak out now about their feeling on this matter.
“Please do not give JYJ any more of these rumor or nonsense just to save your own ass, Avex. Just save yourself with your own artists. You used JYJ and threw them away and block them cruelly. I’ll never forgive you. Even if by miracle, the reunion happen, I’ll try my best to stop it”. I want to protect JYJ cheerfulness and kind heart so that they won’t be hurt again if Homin do not want them anymore.
Who’s with me? 🙂 (I do wish all the best for Homin. They does do well on their own now).
I will leave everything to them, JYJ and HoMin and will continue to support them. If they are happy now, then I am happier…..
Btw…I want HoMin to leave SM. They are bleeding to death now. Can a sniper just take that jerk LSM out?
I thought leesooman isn’t in charge anymore…..
he might not be chairman anymore but he’s still the power in the shadows.
@Junsubiased
@Springbok7
“I thought leesooman isn’t in charge anymore….. :/”
He is the Chairman. He is no longer the president.
No, LSM is no longer chairman, but he is still the largest shareholder. The last time I looked at SME stock page, his name is not listed on the board of directors.
Hhhmmmmm…..we just can never……ever be able to fix this stupidity, can’t we ???
Come to think of it~~ I think all JYJers have more brain cells than the trolls….They do use their brain
That’s why I like this site so much….XDD!!!
I am primarily a fan of Jaejoong and consequently of JYJ. I really like this group and this is actually the only korean (or asian) group I’ve been listening to lately. Still I do not have anything against the 2 members of DBSK who just chose their own path. In this case I do not think that a reunion is possible due to many circumstances, but if they agree to collaborate for a one-time project or for several concerts in Japan, I will not be against it. Many of their fans will be happy and I think that we can just regard it as a one-time collaboration with another group. As a fan I would support each and every decision they make.
har har har..
this is not funny.. somebody has to kick their (AVEX) ass
Oh c’mon! *roll eyes*
Why are OT5 called ‘delusional’? Simply because you refuse to acknowledge reality.
(1) JYJ will never go back to SM – in ‘Pierrot’ they already said very clearly, ‘bye bye forever’. Same should apply to Avex after what Avex did to them.
(2) Homin will never leave SM and follow in ‘betrayer’/’ungrateful’ JYJ’s footsteps. That’s like admitting they were wrong all along. And play second fiddle to JaeChunSu again when they now have the limelight to themselves? They have their pride, they are happy to stay safe under the protection of ‘Father’ and ‘SM family’, they think they are TVXQ, they seem to believe their Homin stans who proclaim their greatness apart from JYJ. Even collaborating with JYJ is not possible for these same reasons.
(3) Only children think that friendships should always last forever and love will never die. Of course it would be nice if they do, but in the real, grown-up, and much more complicated world, they don’t. Why? Because of differences in personality, perceptions, beliefs…sometimes misunderstandings happen, people do bad things, and you can forgive but you can’t forget. THINGS CHANGE!!!!! Think of DBSK as a vase that has shattered, it cannot be put back again, even if it can, it will not be the same.
(4) JYJ has grown so much over the last 2 years. They have fought so hard to establish their own identity, careers, sound as musicians, and they are going places. These 3 voices are perfect, there is absolutely no need for them to get back with Homin and sing the same songs again (or even new songs – seriously, are Homin’s vocals that great??). JYJ is not your CD player. Go to Youtube if you want to watch them as 5.
I really cannot understand how someone who loves JYJ can love Homin at the same time. Supporting Homin means supporting SME i.e. the very people who to this day block and torment JYJ continually. Homin knows what SME is doing to JYJ but they still remain loyal to SME. Isn’t it clear enough that even if they had once loved JYJ, that love is gone? Replaced by resentment, bitterness, self-righteousness, perhaps? Just look at what Homin themselves said about JYJ. And they just stood by while Shindong and the rest attacked Junsu. SMH…
Exactly my sentiments .. how can one profess to love JYJ and be oblivious to the crappy things homin said to JYJ. It just blows my mind. And now, they are giddy at the thought of a collaboration? How pray tell can this possibly happen? Do you honestly see homin apologizing to JYJ?
Avex needs a tvxq reunion to boost their sales? Isn’t homin making enough dough for avex? Isn’t milking the tohoshinki name in japan not enough? Guess tohoshinki profit is not the way it used to be when they were five, eh? Then woe to you. You could have had a good thing going with JYJ, but then you chose to look the other way. Ahh, dear avex, kinddly stop dragging JYJ into your futile and silly propaganda.
@intoxicatedbyxiahtic
“JYJ is not your CD player. Go to Youtube if you want to watch them as 5.”
Hi 5 😀 Love, love, love that comment!
(& I also agree with you that Homin seem to have a certain amount of self-righteousness about them these days.)
❤ what you said dear ^__^
I think this comment needs to be posted again and again everytime OT5 come here to preach about their forever love and faith and bond and dream.
@xiahstic
“(3) Only children think that friendships should always last forever and love will never die. Of course it would be nice if they do, but in the real, grown-up, and much more complicated world, they don’t. Why? Because of differences in personality, perceptions, beliefs…sometimes misunderstandings happen, people do bad things, and you can forgive but you can’t forget. THINGS CHANGE!!!!! Think of DBSK as a vase that has shattered, it cannot be put back again, even if it can, it will not be the same
… Amen …. JYJ fighting
Love your comment, but I doubt whether the ones playing deaf and blind would or could read that and even if they would, will they understand.
“JYJ is not your CD player. Go to Youtube if you want to watch them as 5.”
one of the best out of 732 comments!
Is the best news I received in so long, the project offered by AVEX is the best, is very exciting for my and I think that for all the Fans of TVXQ seeing them again together on stage, although is that nothing will be as before but it is the best thing you can do them together are the maximo… no one can reach them over the years in which rehearsals together but cannot be side also and do see that separated also still shining as always as these stars are and will always, but also the five brillarian better, have to put aside the problems and the negative comments that make those who do not want them to see together, it is known that tienew that change and better doing that they would be together… today I am and we are JYJ & Homin = TVXQ but if they become to join only we will be TVXQ!
So I think that the AVEX project is very good and because they also put on their part and can arrange the best way their pronblemas with SM, and clear is that this company may not take advantage of acaparra the market and make them not exit, good but have output in Korea it will have in Japan and in the other countries of the world; because we do not support the pressure with which worked JYJ and thereby work Homin… SM it exploits that they have signed the contract maybe without knowing them serious later… but hey already it was made but not why they should be exploiting….
In the midst of all this dilemma only want that TVXQ will be before the gods Nacientes del Este never do morrir or secede never more if return to join but…. I hope that this project is and that it is more as soon as possible…. as they already saw both groups have Fans around the world and are are knowing win the hearts of a lot of Fans…. and I I a d them that always be 100% TVXQ! >. <
… Do you… read? Like do you not read the comments above?
And let me get this straight… you’re saying that JYJ and Homin should continue to be exploited by their greedy entertainment companies? And that this project is very good?
… I don’t even. My head hurts.
LOL….doubleJaeDee ‘Jaelollipop~’
I don’t think she read…..typical OT5…..Now I am getting so sick with the term.
Lol, yeah I probably should get out of here before I bang my head against the desk and just focus on working.
p.s. please you can call me Dee ^^
Thanks Dee…..^__^
@Dee
For some reason this girls (@Arvhil Alvarado) comments are making me snort with laughter!!! Obviously I’ve reached my tolerance level for OT5 BS & the giggles have set in!!! It’s a bit like getting drunk…
& then the hangover… remembering all the BS Avex & SM have put JYJ through & exactly why they & their fans are in this situation tbw. How can any of these delusional OT5’s claim to love JYJ or even Homin for that matter, & seriously not care how they were treated by Avex & SM????? SMH.
Hey Sapphie, you’re finally here in this little hell hole of an article, haha.
It’s just… please read and research. How hard is it? That’s a requirement for high school students when they do their essay or whatnot no? I am actually ashamed to think that I was once so proud to be a part of this fandom called Cassies.
Here, drink some JYJ elixir, you won’t get any disgusting hangover, but pure bliss.
Hi Dee *huggles*
Thanks for the JYJ elixir. I think I need it. OT5’s wilfully ignorant delusions are almost funny – for that split second before remembrance of everything JYJ have been put through, & are still suffering, comes crashing back in again.
i see Sapphire ann is rill here???
*still… wow typos… i gotta sleep
Hahahah!! Me too. It’s Wednesday, & you know what that means… I look forward to it the whole week, then the night before I start getting nervy, anxious & agitated!! Does you posting mean that Duduy fixed your lappie?
no… this is ate’s lappie.. . duduy said it’s jst the keyboard that broke… whew~~~~ i hope so….
yah! sleep already! i’ll see the ophthalmologist tomorrow so she can look at my eyes… they’ve been bugging me for a while… and i need to get a med cert, since i was out tonight…
Oh thank God for Duduy – pffffttttt!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sorry twinnie, but I really can’t help it! I’m still pronouncing it as Do Day & when you say “Thank God for Do Day” it’s really funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you need glasses. The glare from the lappie was bothering me for a while, but that could have been cause I was on it for hours on end!
no.. it’s an eye irritation that i’ve always had, i just took eye drops with steroids, as i told u… im really sleepy twinnie… let’s call it a night.. and stop making fun of Duduy’s name you!
@Arvhil Alvarado
Girl. You seem to be misplaced. ¿Do you need some assistance to find the way out?
I see, your delusive and selfish dreams, according to you, are going to become alive. Poor you, this past years suffering while looking at JYJ trying to succeed and finally succeeding loudly. This past years suffering while looking at Homin trying to survive and living happily under SM’s wings. Oh you must be very happy. The slavers and abusers are trying to make your dream come true. At the end the only thing that matters is what YOU WANT AND WISH. Neither JYJ nor Homin feelings, efforts, goals and sufferings are important; the only thing that matters is what you want: To see them reunited as 5 again, because, according to you and your friends, that is the best place for them to be.
You fool and selfish person, go away and rejoice on your delusions amongst the ones who are like you. Here’s no place for you to be.
@Arvhil Alvarado
SIGH……. You read the 525 comments above yours and decided to go ahead and post your comment?
(PALM TO MY FACE!!!!) GEEEWHIZZ…….I am speechless….
i’m pretty sure she did NOT read the comments LOL!
Trolls usually submit something due to their love of chaos….( they should be called joker then, not troll).
They don’t read, don’t care and don’t die by death wishes.
ROFLMAO!!
Why are O5 called ‘delusional’? Simply because you refuse to acknowledge reality.
It is not that I want to deny the reality “intoxicatedbyxiahtic” , it’s just that I want to see together again… well what you say below also is true… >. <
(1) JYJ will never go back to SM – in ‘Pierrot’ they already said very clearly, ‘bye bye forever’. Same should apply to Avex after what Avex did to them.
(2) Homin will never leave SM and follow in ‘betrayer’/'ungrateful’ JYJ’s footsteps. That’s like admitting they were wrong all along. And play second fiddle to JaeChunSu again when they now have the limelight to themselves? They have their pride, they are happy to stay safe under the protection of ‘Father’ and ‘SM family’, they think they are TVXQ, they seem to believe their Homin stans who proclaim their greatness apart from JYJ. Even collaborating with JYJ is not possible for these same reasons.
(3) Only children think that friendships should always last forever and love will never die. Of course it would be nice if they do, but in the real, grown-up, and much more complicated world, they don’t. Why? Because of differences in personality, perceptions, beliefs…sometimes misunderstandings happen, people do bad things, and you can forgive but you can’t forget. THINGS CHANGE!!!!! Think of DBSK as a vase that has shattered, it cannot be put back again, even if it can, it will not be the same.
(4) JYJ has grown so much over the last 2 years. They have fought so hard to establish their own identity, careers, sound as musicians, and they are going places. These 3 voices are perfect, there is absolutely no need for them to get back with Homin and sing the same songs again (or even new songs – seriously, are Homin’s vocals that great??). JYJ is not your CD player. Go to Youtube if you want to watch them as 5.
I really cannot understand how someone who loves JYJ can love Homin at the same time. Supporting Homin means supporting SME i.e. the very people who to this day block and torment JYJ continually. Homin knows what SME is doing to JYJ but they still remain loyal to SME. Isn’t it clear enough that even if they had once loved JYJ, that love is gone? Replaced by resentment, bitterness, self-righteousness, perhaps? Just look at what Homin themselves said about JYJ. And they just stood by while Shindong and the rest attacked Junsu.
But it is clear that also want them together are, is not to support Homin TVXQ are the five and JYJ always has my support and my heart but I can not put aside to HOmin that also have seen grow next to JYJ since 2005 so I can not make me the desentendida and stop to listen and to love Homin… ^ _ ^
Really, I can’t understand what you are saying. You need medical assistance urgently.
I loved the 5 before they are 2 groups. JJ is my bias always and Changmin my second. I spend more for JYJ and less for HoMin. I never finished seeing the video made by HoMin about JYJ’s departure. I never favor any managements and I wish someone can stop LSM and that Avex jerk from breathing. I died every time I read anything related to JYJ’s pain due to those idiots’ action, or by HoMin.
I will not go on with my arguments of why I love HoMin too here.
Errr…..why did I submit my post under Arvhil Alvarado’s comment instead of intoxicatedbyxiahtic? Is dementia contagious?
@Jae&JYJ/HoMinforever
LOL!! Yeah, I was wondering what was going on with you there!!
@ Sapphire: LOL…..Can we have remove button please? I am so embarrassed. I need to look at my half naked photos of JJ now, to switch my stupidity into something quite imaginative….
@Jae&JYJ/HoMinforever
If you want to share those half-naked pics of Jae, I won’t be complaining!! 😉
@ Sapphire: Bwahahahahaa….
Ooo…. I successfully woke my hubby up. He told me to continue my JJ fantasy tomorrow…..Ottoke…ottoke!
PS….It’s 2.30 am now.
Hahaha..I indeed do not understand your English…what was you trying to say…summarize pls..
Delusional will forever be delusional. Maybe your dream will come true in another 50 years. Good luck
@ Arvhil Alvarado : Can you please separate quoted comments and your own? It is actually easy, just press space button, and it will amazingly do that….
forget SM n’ avex.. why JYJ3 fans hate homin too?? give me at least one good reason,,
i think jj, junsu n’ micky dont hate homin,, I still confuse.. @,@?? thanx b4 guys..
No one hate Homin. To want JYJ to stay free, happy and successful as they are now, doesn’t mean that we hate Homin. Besides, Homin seems to be very happy where and as they are so; which is the problem?
no,, of course not,, i agree with you^^
Well, for me to say that I don’t hate Homin would be a part lie. Not to the point where I detest and send death wishes to them, but that I am more disappointed than anything.
I don’t know how far back you read and looked up news on Homin’s interviews and articles, but about a year ago, was the time when I decided I will never support Homin in any way. I was a fan of all 5 prior to break-up and initially share the same thoughts as the rest of OT5s here who in their right way can be called ‘delusional.’ But I researched, let it marinate, and was very disappointed by the outcome of the decisions those 2 made, and resented what they have said to JYJ.
@ doubleJaeDee ‘Jaelollipop~’: I am disappointed too….(sigh). That’s understatement. I was crying like a loony. I really wanted to strangle Changmin for his words. And he is my second bias….(weeping).
But I think they can not say anything good about JYJ openly. Anything they say would affect their career, and they are still under the bloody contract. They have decided to stay behind, and once more trapped under SME. They are losing their spirits lately and they are bleeding to death.
Can someone shoot LSM for me?
sweetie, they could have kept their mouth shut .. no need to really say anything, don’t you think? and I don’t think they are trapped because they willingly stayed .. changmin even said that he will prove to everyone that he made the right decision to stay .. so this has nothing to do with sme .. it’s all changmin and yunho and their decision to stay and prove to everyone that they made the right choice, even at the expense of JYJ.
@ teya: I suppose if they work under other management but SME, you might do whatever they like or say whatever they want. But the evil and obnoxious LSM and his SME is quite powerful and usually comes with vicious contract. I doubt that it is as easy as we think it is for HoMin. They did have their freedom and they are always under pressure. They can’t even have end of year holiday.
Yes my love for Changmin has succesfully blinded me, but I also read less about them saying anything bad about JYJ.
I surely will sever my love for Changmin (read HoMin) if he hurts my forever and ever love Jaejoong ever again.
I really wanted to put him in coma for badmouthing JYJ that time, whether he did it based on his new conviction by staying behind or his hatred towards JYJ or order from LSM. As for Yunho, I have no say. I think he owed LSM so much for his life and has dedicated himself for that jerk.
Typo (sigh) …….. but SME, they might do
Don’t care about Homin. Don’t want to hear about Homin or Avex, SM linking with JYJ. They better not start shet with JYJ again because everytime they do, the stuff they did to JYJ will make me mad again.
Since you don’t know much about the issue. I guess it’s best to stay out of it and continue to support JYJ like you always do.
thanks hanna,, but i really want to know what happen,, this rumor,, this fanwar n’ everything make me confuse..
Can I make a suggestion? This may prove to be a bit time consuming, but in the long haul it will give you more perspective. First off, go up to the main page and read the statement that leads this website. It is from one of the main DBSK fancafes. Next go to the archives and start from the beginning of this blog. Next go to TheJYJFiles website and go through their articles. You may want to hold off reading the comments. Just read the article posts. After you have done that, then go back and check out the comment sections.
Give yourself time. There is no rush. You are going to be a JYJ fan for quite some time. Knowledge as the saying goes, is power. I’m not saying you shouldn’t ask for information, but try reading material that speaks to what has been happening. I think you will come away with a better picture and appreciation for what JYJ have gone through these past few years, and why the JYJ Family of Fans are as dedicated as we are. 😉
Well, it’s really a mix of indignation, indifference and yes, hate .. some are indifferent since JYJ is all that matters to them, and some are new fans that don’t really care about homin at all ..
some have feelings that range from indignation to hate towards homin for several possible reasons .. homin’s decision to stay with sme, homin’s continued usage of the tvxq name (especially when homin makes it look like tvxq’s achievements for the past years were theirs alone and does not include jae, chun and su) and of course, homin’s bashing of JYJ. I think the hate part comes mostly on homin’s bashing of JYJ. I for one respects homin’s decision to stay, am just indignant on their continued use of the tvxq name, i don’t really hate them for bashing JYJ, I figured that in the long run, it will be them who’ll be reaping the consequences of their actions, (I think during those times, homin didn’t believe that JYJ won’t survive at all without sme and that they have the upper hand. Ahh, karma is indeed digital.) Anyway, at this point, I just don’t like homin at all. 🙂
*sorry .. homin didn’t believe JYJ will survive at all without sme
what?? homin bashing jyj?? i never hear that.. tell me what homin said about JYJ,,
@jyjnewfans: Look up DBSK Knee Drop Guru–lots of things there. I can’t remember all the sources, perhaps in this video or in other interviews, but they said that JYJ left them/betrayed them and that they knew nothing of the lawsuit beforehand. They implied that JYJ is the wrong party many times, and that they should come back to SMe to sort out the problems. They have also stated/implied (depending on the translation) that JYJ’s problem is that they let their fame get to them and couldn’t resist temptations.
Yunho basically accused Jaejoong of lying about contacting them. He also said that they had to put their careers on hold to wait for JYJ to come back, which is another lie.
Next, there’s Changmin’s geese comment where he said that JYJ were like geese that left the flock and therefore had no place in the flock anymore.
This is not directly Homin, but Yunho’s father released a letter accusing JYJ of leaving DBSK just for money–the whole CreBeau thing–right after news of their lawsuit broke out.
I am sure I am missing others, but I really only know the most popular/infamous interviews. There’ll probably be more if you actually dig around.
@jaime
“I am sure I am missing others, but I really only know the most popular/infamous interviews. There’ll probably be more if you actually dig around.”
Thanks for this post, it really helps to have this sort of re-cap of events for those OT5s willing to learn some of the actual facts.The problem is, overwhelmingly, they DON’T want to. They don’t want to read, they don’t want to dig around and find the information, they just want to spazz and vent and invade JYJ3, post a lot of nonsense and then disappear again. They are spoiled children who are not getting what they want. They are angry about that and because we JYJ fans ARE getting what we want they are angry as hell at us.
So here we all are once again, listening to the exact SAME old arguments. This is what those who come here maybe don’t get. We’ve HEARD all their arguments hundreds of times before. They were misguided before and they are misguided now. Only now we are heartily sick and tired of hearing them.
@lilibaiyu
Hey there I saw your post requesting some concert clips.
I responded… but it’s buried deep in the AVEX article.
Do you want the clips via e-mail? Kinda volatile here right now.. Don’t want to stir things up, if posted here the second level of Hell would break loose with all the OT5s and “I Love Them Both” groupies.. Let me know
@jyjnewfans I even looked it up for you. Watch it here.. It is a as clear as water what Yunho said in this interview! http://ithetimes.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/eng-sub-golden-fishery-knee-drop-guru-tvxq-homin/
thanx guys,, u help me a lot..
i WAS a fan of five… and i dont HATE homin… i just stopped caring about anything abt them… all i care abt is JYJ, nothing else…
ooo.. i see,, thanx 4 the answer sam-sam ^^
OMG,, i saw fanwar here between jyj3 n ot5.. really wasting time!! =.=’
Wow……a lot going on over very recycled rumors.
I highly highly highly doubt a reunion is going to happen now. If Bigeast is opening membership again, then yeah I wouldn’t put it past Avex to try this right now. I used to think SME disgusts me more…..Avex definitely caught up. A whole other kind of nasty: these two companies demonstrates corporate greed and inhumanity at its worst.
I only seriously truly wish that in 2012 JYJ gets to go back to Japan, full-fledged and no holds barred. I want that to happen so badly my whole heart bursts into flames sometimes.
Please God help make that happen. Let JYJ promote freely in Japan, as who they are today, and all the room and support that they need to become who they want to be tomorrow…..whatever that may be.
Always keep the faith. Hope to end.
Avex is bigger than SME, so Avex is much more disgusting and loathsome….
You know what? You got a good point there. 😉
I am filled with RAGE when I think of what they did to JYJ. (Deep inhale exhale.) Gonna turn that rage into more PRAYERS for JYJ to go back to Japan sooner.
I miss JJ singing in Japanese so much I feel like crying sometimes. Honest to God, I NEED to hear JJ sing some new Japanese songs……SOON.
That’s good. Pray for the good thing will usually result good thing too.
I wonder perhaps that is why LSM and Avex jerks are still breathing and my wish for some snipers to take them out will never be fulfilled…..:(
I think Japan is awesome and I love Japanese fans….
For my wish is for JYJ not to come to Indonesia ( many YJ freaks here), I might as well pray for them to come back to Japan…:)
jaejoong speaking japanese is already music to my ears.. so him singing in japanese wil be HEAVEN! JAEven!
@sam-sam
You had me burst out laughing…..JAEven gosh I LOVE IT!!!!
Every body has right to pursuit what they believe in but they need to stay with people with same believe. This site written clearly in red banner that say JYJ3, rules are written perfectly,no bashing jae,YC,Js. OT5 welcome but this is JYJ site no spamming about others.
Why OT5 come up and argue what we believe in and ask for a fight,words become more and more rash. JYJers and OT5,I personally don’t like impolite talking,even on internet everybody should have etiquette.In every group of people there are good and bad people,u cannot say whole group just by looking at majority. There may be some bad JYJers but why some OT5 come up and curse this whole site believe.Words are not supposed to hurt people,those OT5s let down the other sane OT5s.Why don’t we live in our own house,OT5s,this is JYJers home.
yeah.. i know… that’s why it bugs me that they keep on harping on and on abt their OT5ery HERE when they can always do that in OT5 sites where they can be embraced and they can all wallow in whatever dream they want.
JYJ3 is just ONE international JYJ ONLY fan site. Can’t they leave us be? sigh~~~~
@ zan JYJ= my encouragement
Err….I thought I experienced deja vu…..
You wrote similar post at GAPP?
@jae&JYJ
yes I got dizzy and posted wrong on GAPP,this is where I want to post,so I post it here
What JYJ achieved in 2 years with C-Jes has proven that they don’t need to go nowhere and need no body.
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My Indonesian is so bad right now so I’ll reply to you in English.
How important is it to vote a bias generic poll versus clearing misunderstanding and judgmental views OT5 fans has with this issue. When people want to vote, they’ll vote, no questions asked. A lot of these discussions and a bunch more in other posts are considered more as a healthy argument. You cannot move forward if you always pretend this issue don’t exist. For a lot of Cassies, their fandom is so messed up right now. But it is not messy with JYJ fans. We chose a side for a reason and we support JYJ in all their endevours.
We are just talking but no doing? umm, the fact that we are supporting JYJ, buying their albums, going to their concerts, not bringing non-related JYJ items to their events, not clinging onto the past and moving on to the future? Don’t tell us to grow up, that’s just childish.
“We are just talking but no doing?”
And not only that, but we JYJers whether we are international fans or korean fans, are not only supporting JYJ directly with our wallets buying their products as sister Dee has listed, but also we are putting our money into subway, bus, newspaper, and other advertisements for JYJ; charity projects for JYJ and also in the name of JYJ; presents and presentations for JYJ; as well as physically protesting the actions against JYJ by standing in front of “certain buildings” as a showing of our support, and protesting in other ways using avenues such as twitter, facebook, email, and letters to make our displeasure known to those who would hurt or melange JYJ. We use our own two hands to do our best to protect JYJ, we use our own one heart to have Keep The Faith in JYJ, we use our own mind to devise ways to help them in any way we can, and lastly, we use our own wallet (not mommy and daddy’s) to support JYJ in whatever way, small or large, that we can.
How is that ‘just talking but no doing’? I have to laugh at you for that.
Hear hear!!!
and i forgot to mention the AWESOME support operations the various fan groups organize when any of JYJ, as a group or individually, are embarking on a project. Drama-fan support, Musical-fan support, Concert-fan support, CF-fan support. just AWESOME!!!! I love us. LOLOL!
at least you can understand him dear but i doubt she can understand you, i think to much english language give him a headaches lol.
Can you translate for her? lol. My indo is just not as fluent as it was before.
@ Dee
I want to but i’m not a good person who want to waste my time for this person lol actually there are already a convo in indonesian language (above) with dolta, Jae&JYJ/HoMinforever, etc but still…the problem is they are still refuse to understand us doesn’t matter language you will use. just Let him curious lol.
Ehm.. Sorry Love_JYJ,,i can understand english well,.^^
I think jyj3 fans are totally crazy,, I love jyj n I love all of jyj fans,, but, u just wasting u’r time to discuss rumor like this. N’ sometimes u say something rude to show u’r feeling, n’ I hate it. Sorry if I say something hurt u before, maybe it’s not the right place to share my opinion..
Err…….Love_JYJ….
Why did you drag me to convo in indonesian language with that girl? and dolta too? We hate freaks too….
@ fansjyjindo:
You said…”I think jyj3 fans are totally crazy,” and then “Sorry if I say something hurt u before, maybe it’s not the right place to share my opinion..”
Did you just google translate your comments without reading them?
@fansjyjindo
damn I wanna read what you said before, but our beloved admin already deleted it.
Baca aturan sini sebelum komen ya….biar ga di delete
what ohhh dear god, WTF.
apa? siapa yang nggak dewasa? aku marah dengar komen kamu! kami di sini udah gabung sama proyek2 internasional buat bantu JYJ! jangan asal tuding ya?
masalah ot5, siapa dulu yang datang disini, trus bikin gara2? apa kamu nggak ngerasa itu wajar kalo kami mempertahankan “rumah” kami?
and please mind your language. this is international forum. i hope you write in a language that most ppl understand, so that i wont need to translate your words. (not that i’m going to translate, anyway)
Maaf ya,, tujuan saya bilang untuk brsikap dewasa hanya untuk mengingatkan hati2 dgn kata2 anda..
Banyak yg nggak jadi ngfans sma artis, hanya gara2 ngeliat fans nya suka ngomong kasar atau ngbash fandom lain. Dan saya sudah membuktikannya. Saya ga mau jyj dibenci sma fandom lain hanya gara2 fans jyj yg suka ngomong kasar. thanx b4
Loh….ada lagi?
@fansjyjindo:
Bahasa Ingrisnya tolong!
English please!
Saya mengerti kalo kamu adalah JYJIndonesia, tapi maaf, ini website international, jadi tolong pergunakan bahasa yang bisa dimengerti, kecuali bila anda memang bermaksud tidak dimengerti.
I understand that you are JYJIndonesia, but forgive me, this is international website, so please care enough to use a language that others can understand, unless it is your intention for not to be understood.
Omong2, Di JYJ Indo masih bertebaran para pemuja YJ bukan?
Btw, there are many YJ shippers in JYJ Indo, rite?
You just make me embarrass to know you are indonesian.. moreover, your username is fansjyjindo but u mock JYJ fans? I guess you better leave this site, no one welcome some like you in here. FYI, THIS IS JYJ INTERNATIONAL FANSITE = SPEAK ENGLISH! Use you brain more carefully (if u have one )
Seriously this issue hurts me so much. I hope that all the 5 are willing to reunite again but, if the will just comes from one side, then I think they’d better not do it. And what the heck AVEX’s trying to do ? they just think about their own affairs and don’t even care about they boy’s feeling . I DON’T WANT THEY TO HOLD A CONCERT AS 5 JUST BECAUSE THEY R FORCED TO DO. It doesn’t even make sense to do such a thing.
I REALLY WANT TO SLAP THE AVEX CEO … After such bad things they caused for JYJ, now they’re looking forward to be saved by the boys’ success… really pisses me off.
One thing that I can’t believe that Homin said such harsh things to JYJ.. If it’s true, then it’s still hard for me to accept.
PS : Why are you JYJers so hard with OT5? Ok I haven’t read all the comments above but I haven’t read even one in which OT5 talk badly about JYJ or just spam about Homin….I can easily say that I love all the 5 and support them continously, and I think so many people act like me. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME TO THIS FORUM and EXPRESS OUR LOVE RIGHT ? Please do not say such thing like ” Why don’t you go to OT5’s forums to talk… bla bla bla bla “…
Moreover, please STOP ARGUING. Aren’t we tired enough since 2 years ?
No one says you can’t come here but there are so many websites that has OT5 stamps on them. Obviously, if you come posting your “love 5 forever” here, the majority of us would roll our eyes. It would make your life easier to go and express your feelings there. Since you haven’t read all the comments, maybe you should go back and read all the comments before complaining about JYJ fans when this is a JYJ site? tsk tsk
You can express your love for JYJ but you know the rules…. or do you?
Call me a stubborn fan, but I won’t stop arguing because one person pushes their beliefs on me. I’m not into that kind of cult, thank you very much.
OK I’ve read almost the comments above.. I must admit that some people are being unrealistic ,or maybe they just want things to turn out the way they want ( a reunion of DBSK) but not all the people are like that 😦 It’s sad for me to see a chaos in fandom like this. We can never know ALL the truth behind the law suit, behind what the stars say. I’ve never heard JYJ reject Homin, so what if several years after this they become close again? I’m not even talking about a reunion, but if, IF it’s the case, will you reject the others 2 ?
It’s hard, isn’t it ? So hard for them and so hard for us too, and I don’t think they would be happy if fans aren’t and fight with each other like this.. just see how much they treasure fans 🙂
ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHHA 😉 This made my day.
isn’t it a riot? and the fact that poor Ayu who has enough crap to deal with at the moment gets dragged into things just cause she and Jae were/are friends. Gees! Who else do these people have to drag through the mud before they are happy? COURT: PLEASE HAND DOWN YOUR DECISION ALREADY!!!! GAH!!!! Put an end to all this nonsense already! My eyes are bleeding from this thread already X__X
O__O 762 comments? and 19,566,757 hits? ummm HOLY CRAP!!! we’re going to hit 20M in NO TIME at this rate!
Almost 800 comments….. seems like OT5 invaded JYJ3 LOL just saw the wank on AKP. This has brought my day up tremendously ; )
I think i’m loss my comment here lol
It’s a shame JYJ can’t appear on TV. This has nothing to do with JYJ or DB5K’s power. We all know who is behind it.
Nasty, yucky behavior from Avex as well as others who fuel negative energy. Forge ahead dear, Jaejoong, Yoochun & Junsu! March on, Sweethearts! Leave your enemies, users and abusers behind you and never look back! (So shameful of Avex & others to contribute to and/or spread such ridiculous statements in order to try to diminish the glorious feelings of freedom, crush the pride of success, and demean the love of those who have stood by Jaejoong, Yoochun & Junsu!) NEVER let your guard down, JYJ. Stand tall and straight. Revel in your freedom, be very proud of yourselves, and always know that we love you! The seeds of Karma are growing for the three of you. In turn…for those who have, and continually try to hurt you, the seeds of karma are dying. “Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” Hugs! ~pamela
A+++
love this comment
people biggest fear is TVXQ and JYJ reunite
I would love to see them reunite as 5 only because as good as they are as two separate groups, I think they were awesome as 5 voices together. But after the crap AVEX put JYJ through, I wouldn’t want to see them reunited under AVEX. Why should they save AVEX’s a*s! But like most of you said, I think the two groups have moved on. If JYJ was still under SME, they wouldn’t have accomplished as much as they have.
well AVEX came out and said this sooooooo I say this a flat out lie
>.> oh Avex, you will do anything to get attention, but I didnt know Ayumi divorced?! wow that was a quick marriage, I feel sorry for her but she is a strong woman and I really look up to her
lol when this drama will end..please god do that for me,,JYJ we will always wish you the best..
*A LITTLE INTERVAL*
Can I say a ‘blasphemy’?
All these discussion no longer can put me under stress, rather I find these squabble an easy entertainment.
I love to see how an educated and well-informed “JYJ fans army” can smartly reply against the brittle beliefs of OT5.
Really funny!
Now, you can continue, my dears….
*gets TIO & popcorn*
I like this article, it’s like a festival of dumb, dumber, and dumbest vs. smart, smarter and smartest
and it gives me so much to read, when I left there were still 500 comments and now it’s 800+, should I read them all?, I have to start scrolling, looking for FUN!
daebak!! 800 comments??? and well said.. said to that delusional OT5 fans… time must go on.. tck tck tck…
Much ado about nothing.
By Sir William Shakespeare
Starring: Emma Thompson
Kenneth Branagh
Denzel Washington
Keanu Reeves
Robert Sean Leonard
Kate Beckinsale
Michael keaton
Imelda Staunton ¡ROFL!
Haha!! *off topic* Keanu Reeves doing Shakespeare is hilarious!
He played the “bad guy” role 🙂
I have no patience for a tabloid article written to stir up issues better left alone.
Homin have contracts with sm and avex for years to come. So, besides having get together concerts, homin and JYJ could never fully reunite anyway right? In my opinion homin have made it more than clear that they don’t want to reunite. I think homin are happy with now getting all the attention to themselves, even though it hasn’t worked out like they thought it would.
One more thing, I am not an ot5 fan at all even though I did love dbsk5, but I think you guys forget that even if those fans are in denial or “delusional” they are still JYJ fans and people with feelings. Until JYJ-especially Jaejoong- say it’s over a lot of people will never let go. So I think we shouldn’t be so harsh on them when trying to explain that this article is just a cry for attention from Avex.
But the thing is that Jaejoong DID say it was over. He said he wanted to grow as JYJ and with the JYJ fans in the future. He even said he felt that his life was JYJ. Yoochun has been clear that “In the end, it’s JYJ” and that it was a new begining for them as JYJ : “JYJ dashi shijak”. I don’t think they can be any clearer than that, some people just like to turn a deaf ear on what JYJ themsleves said because it is different from what they want to hear.
Still going on?? ( ̄□ ̄;)!!
OMG sun… this is dae to the bak!!
JYJ3 is being invaded (>_<)
It’s okay, we got this 😉
another dirty tricks of avex..im sure c-jes will clear things up eventually..i think avex is sinking and desperate now..
Ehm, this “savior” was announce that BE/Avex only support THSK that consist to HoMin only. But the fact, they keep repeating that “THE MOST FAMOUS MEMBER IS JYJ’s JAEJOONG”
I must repeat ten million times… The Most famous Member is JYJ’s JAEJOONG
JYJ’s JAEJOONG!! JYJ’s….. JYJ’s… JYJ’s
In the end it’s JYJ.
*shouts like Yoochun* “F*CK OFF, NO MORE TALK!!!”
saviour? so lame,,,not in this world…
oh wow look how AVEX so desperately want the boys back to them, and this is so LOL
(seriously I want to laugh so loudly when i read this)
well to tell you the truth, JYJ don’t need them anymore!
This article, which is full of BS BTW, is proving me wrong on the number of comments it would get by the end of the day. I’ll probably open up JYJ3, quickly stalk like a ninja, see 20M hits and 1200 or so comments xD I feel like i’m in a battlefield in here xD
This is a serious question, just avoid all the delusion here and get to the matter at hand, how do you make those face thingy(?) xD
I prop everyone who keep up with this “discussion” till this 800 something… lol.
I have had enough “discussion” like this in the past, just seeing the numbers of comments makes me sick. Call me ignorant but my mental state is more important.
*cure myself by watching the charismatic XiahTod in action*
I was fine reading the comments until someone said Yunho was a joke of a leader because he couldnt hold his team together. Some of you agreed with this person’s comment. So, this is a comment posted on here talking about some of the hate JJ got after the lawsuit “He received so much shit when they split; with everyone thinking that he didn’t try enough to hold the group together. what is he? super glue?”. Cant this comment also apply to Yunho? Yunho isnt super glue either. JYJ are grown men who can make their own decisions. What was YH supposed to do? Tie them up and lock them in a closet? Seriously, JYJ had their reasons for leaving and Homin had their reasons for staying. Why so much hate for Yunho and Changmin? Because of what they’ve said? Honestly, I know YH and CM can speak for themselves but when it comes to the lawsuit, you better believe SM is telling them what to say and how to say it. They cant be all like “Oh JJ, JS, YC, we miss you soooo much!” No. Because in the eyes of SM, JYJ are traitors and anyone who supports them is a traitor too. I know I cant change your minds about Homin but if you would at least listen. Some Homin fans think JYJ are evil traitors. Are they? You know they aren’t. You know they have the kindest hearts and are beautiful people. Some JYJ fans think Homin are evil traitors. Are they? Trust me when I tell you they aren’t. They also are beautiful people with kind hearts. I remember the DBSK from before and let me tell you, the JYJ and Homin you see now is the same JYJ and Homin from then. Of course, they are more grown up and some things have changed but to me, they are still as kind and sweet as they were before. I have to admit that now a days I pay more attention to JYJ than I do Homin, but it still irks me when people bash them and say such hurtful things. I know some of you are going to ignore me, call me a delusional OT5 and all that but I just needed to get this out.
Precisely, as you’re saying; YH and CM are grown up men and they decided not only to stay but to renew their contract with SME. None of them are puppets, but working under SME means that you are tied up to their demands and their orders; you must do as they say. And tbh, I don’t feel like Homin are being forced to do or to say something, they just agree with SM in everything so, they seem to be comfortable enough to continue under their dominium. They just do as they feel and everybody is happy.
“They also are beautiful people with kind hearts”
Oh yes, just enlighten me on this: ¿Were they so “beautiful people with kind hearts” when they left Jae alone; when they jilted him having him traveled from Japan in a hurry exclusively to talk to them? 😦
Answer to me if you can girl.
“they left Jae alone; when they jilted him having him traveled from Japan in a hurry exclusively to talk to them?”
I haven’t heard of this. Can you tell me more?
Also, I know. They have made some pretty shitty decisions. What you said earlier was right; they are grown men. When I read your comment, I realized that nobody had forced them to do anything. Using TVXQ as their name, singing their old OT5 songs, those were all decisions that they made. They upset me greatly and made me think “Why are you doing this?” But JYJ has moved on with their lives, haven’t they? Homin should have the right to move on, too. The decisions Homin are making while moving on, I do not agree with them completely. But all that lawsuit crap aside, I can see that they are nice people. Yes, some of their decisions were not very wise but I do not think they are doing those things to hurt JYJ.
@A
Read this article: http://jyj3.net/2011/04/06/trans-prains-owner-writes-about-jaejoong-jyj-and-c-jes/
Here’s the relevant part:
“Also, while this is not a conversation that I had with Jaejoong himself,
I have heard Jaejoong say to a reporter in our café as follows.
I don’t know if there was an article on this, but because this is something that Jaejoong said without an embargo during an interview with a reporter, I don’t think there will be a big problem if I relay them, so I will transfer what Jaejoong said unchanged.
“We were working without even time to rest in Japan, but there was a time when there was a one-day vacation, just one day. So, in order to meet with the former members, I asked in the middle through a friend to arrange a meeting, and I came to Korea.
It was a vacation of just one day. The vacation was going to be over just by coming in and going out of the country, but despite that, in order to see them without fail, I came to Korea by plane, without even sleeping.
But, ultimately, they would not meet with me, and I went back to Japan again.”
I cannot forget the expression on Jaejoong’s face, who was saying those words to the reporter.
I could read, from that expression, what kind of a person Jaejoong was.
I feel careful in talking about this… and I don’t know the details, but
It seems that Jaejoong put in a lot of effort in order to meet with his former friends.”
To be honest with you, I never thought of it like that. It really frustrates me when I think about the fact that they decided to stay but I still think they must have their reasons.
I just wish people would support JYJ on this site and stop bringing up YH and CM. Isn’t one of the rules on this site to not mention them? I know there are times when they are going to be brought up and I know some people do not like Homin but some of the things that are said really piss me off. I guess I’ll just have to deal with it since they are going to continue to bring them up and bash them. Thanks for responding to my comment in a composed manner. I really appreciate it 🙂
Yes, it’s one of the rules, but you’ll notice that it’s the OT5 fans who bring in all the Homin talk and that’s when we get trouble. As I have said before, if OT5 fans would stop talking about Homin, then we (JYJ fans) will stop talking about Homin too. Simple as that.
YH and CM can speak for themselves??? so their are 5 year old kid???
the problem is in my opinion, Yunho is a joke. I dont hate him but I think he is a joke, I cant take him nor his fan seriously.
Its funny how that opinion does not apply to Changmin.
Will people mad at me saying this? Well it is my opinion.
You’re right, it is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
I love that. Well….I am biased though…for I also love Changmin. Yunho….I have no say. I can’t never understand his dedication….
I think people give Changmin slack because because, I don’t know if this was a rumor or true, his parents and sm pretty much told him he wasn’t good enough by himself so to stay and play it safe. Plus he had a closer relationship with jyj than yunho so I think a lot of people were surprised when he didn’t leave with them. One more thing I can say for changmin is that he has never been fake. I’m not going to say anything negative about yuhno but can any one say they truly know the real him behind that capped smile?
@A
“Are they? Trust me when I tell you they aren’t. They also are beautiful people with kind hearts. I remember the DBSK from before and let me tell you, the JYJ and Homin you see now is the same JYJ and Homin from then. Of course, they are more grown up and some things have changed but to me, they are still as kind and sweet as they were before.”
No, your comments are understandable to me and in fact I thank you for being one of the few rational posters we’ve had today espousing some small portion of the OT5 party line. IF ONLY they could all be like you we could have a dialog and this crazy blizzard of nonsense would not even have occurred.
I can only speak for myself of course, but I have done the reading and I have researched the lawsuits and the events leading up to them for a year now. Therefore I must take exception to Homin still being the kind and sweet boys they once were. Nothing that they have said publicly, let alone their sins of omission, the things that they have gone along with what SM has done to their former brothers supports your position. There are numerous examples of “not very kind, not very sweet” comments. Homin co-opted the name DBSK/TVXQ completely and are trading on it shamelessly while their employer continues to block JYJ from fair competition in Korea and Japan. This behavior, apart from not being right by any stretch of the imagination, smacks of a darker attitude among The Two–that of “showing JYJ the error of their ways”, or competing with them and of profiting while watching them struggle and fail.
This last has thankfully not happened. But you must understand that in the face of all of the evidence — pure and simple, just the evidence — it is hard for many of us to have much regard for Homin.
I thank YOU for replying to my comment in rational manner. I understand and respect your opinion. It hurts me to think of it in that way but in some ways you are right. They could have said they didn’t want to use the name that was made for the 5 of them but they still did. I don’t know the exact reasons for that decision or for the other decisions they have made so I cant really defend them. I am not blind to what they have done and said but I still can’t bring myself to hate them. I guess this is the weakness of an OT5.
If they weren’t puppets they would have spoken up but they chose to stay silent so obviously they are no angels. I know this is JYJ’s business but yeahhh there’s no need to come out and diss on JYJ if they have any respect for the JYJ members. If they also have any respect left, they wouldn’t agree on whatever SM is doing to JYJ. They chose SM then they obviously agree with whatever SM is doing. From the beginning, the leader title was just in name because idol groups love to have “leader” but to be honest, there’s no leader in the group.
and btw, you’re delusional. Wake up.
So…… does sm think Eunhyuk is a traitor?
“Why so much hate for Yunho and Changmin? Because of what they’ve said? Honestly, I know YH and CM can speak for themselves but when it comes to the lawsuit, you better believe SM is telling them what to say and how to say it. They cant be all like “Oh JJ, JS, YC, we miss you soooo much!” No. Because in the eyes of SM, JYJ are traitors and anyone who supports them is a traitor too.”<<<<<< I don't hate YH-CM but I don't like them speak badly of JYJ's member.In my eyes ,HoMin are not strong person (chickenheart) than they choose to stay with SM (because they are afraid to face difficult,not confident in their own ability….sth like that…). I don't believe" SM is telling them how to say it" if HoMin don't think like that. You see EunHuyk is joined by his brother (Kangin,HeeChul) to speak badly of Junsu?No right?Why HoMin did that while they can keep silence ?
I'm new fan of JYJ,I dont care Homin at all.
I'm boring to listen n see Homin.
@kinheo24h
“”Why so much hate for Yunho and Changmin? Because of what they’ve said? Honestly, I know YH and CM can speak for themselves but when it comes to the lawsuit, you better believe SM is telling them what to say and how to say it. They cant be all like “Oh JJ, JS, YC, we miss you soooo much!” No. Because in the eyes of SM, JYJ are traitors and anyone who supports them is a traitor too.”<<<<<<"
I'm not sure who originally made this comment, but just adding my own perspective on it: I think it's fair to say that this particular argument, the "two poor gagged and bound boys" argument, does not particularly hold water around here any more and hasn't for some time. Why the 3 members of JYJ could have acted, at all times, nothing short of gentlemanly and heroically day in day out for the last 2 years and their former brothers acted like frightened rabbits and/or helpless mouthpieces for SM–well, it just doesn't make any real sense to most of us. Homin did what they have done because THEY decided to do it–they decided it would be best for them. And really, when you think about it–isn't it kind of insulting for their fandom to characterize them in this way as helpless prisoners, not responsible for the words coming out of their mouths? I think it is and I'm always surprised when I hear it said. In terms of rationalizations and back-handed compliments, it's right up there with "Oh, but Homin has IMPROVED SO MUCH. I'm so proud of their progress!" Isn't that the same as saying they were not all that good previously and still aren't, but now they are better than they were? I have to shake my head and wonder when I read their fans saying that, as I so often do.
Avex just wanna save their sorry asses. People please dont get you hopes up (if any of you did have your hope high).
Ayu marriage-divorce saga follows by Koda Kumi shot-gun marriage, we can assume Avex is in trouble. I see them trying to used Tohoshinki reunion as leverage. You can kiss my ass Avex
@9mmleftshinki
My dear, and I’m going to kiss your cheek cause I feel very happy for having you in here again *muachhh* 😀
i try my best to come back as frequent as i can ^_^ and this news is just WOW…JYJ3 explode. It feels like JYJ3 in early 2010 LMAO
¡Oh yes! Just come and join the fun baby. There are still some asses to kick 😉
*2011*
whatever Avex…..
i don’ need dbsk reunion!!
i just want JYJ forever… is that clear avex!!!!
what’s going on?? LOL!!! did i missed the tea party???
ahahhahaha well the usual epic battle in JYJ3
is the battle not finish yet ? LOL
apparently its not >_<
I love this post.. Its like a reunion here.. Hellow girls.. been missing you a lot.. (This goes to the OT5 troll here)
@ Lyn…..your wonderful avatar can make them think that you are welcoming them….;)
not a DBSK reunion, it feels like JYJ3-er reunion LOL
what a happy sunshine u got there in ur ava
“I feel like a text is too serious without an “LOL” or “HAHA” in there somewhere.” by @autocorrects
OMG. I’m late XD
I was a bit surprised by my feelings after reading the article’s title: I was worried and a bit uncomfortable.
Yes. I can assure now that I’m pure JYJer.
Yes. I want my JYJ as the way they are right now. I don’t want them to come back to Avex nor SM. No. Never again.
I don’t need a DB5K’s reunion either. I’m happy the way JYJ is right now, and I think I don’t miss the old DB5K anymore. (though I still cherish the good memories)
So, I just hope that Avex and SM cut all kind of relation they could have with JYJ. That’s all I want from them.
Stop your dirty mind games Avex. Please have some shame already!
Avex’s brain is full of shameless particles that support his existence. Shame is not in his dictionary, that loathsome asshole….
When will this end….? ._. *sighs* This always shows up conveniently around the BE herding time.
As long as the trolls are not here any longer….I suppose more comments will be okay.
IKR?
Giving hopes to some fans that are desperate to see them together to take advantage from it is just so lame!
The most best thing about this thread is that I see so many JYJ3 silent lurkers comes out with frying pans to knock out those delusional avex desperate rumors and delusional ot5 especially who barged in our home without properly knocking the door!!
Hurray to almost 20million hits!!
^____^ hahaha sis… i just added in the number…..
i see u too sweety…^^
Has Cjes commented about this tabloid stuff?
Why would they do that? It really doesn’t effect JYJ’s career in any way. They aren’t saying it’s happening–unlike the ads for that concert. It’s all just speculation and rumour. I don’t deem it worthy of comment.
if the news is more than 1000 comments i’l swear I WILL POST JYJ SMEXY IN THIS COMMENT
DONE
Back to standard avatar dear…:)
Btw….I suppose you missed my comment about Miss Ripley I posted somewhere…
I didn’t like the ending (was my copy being cut off or the ending is simply that way? with Chunnie running and saying jeongmal saranghae?)
And I cried through the drama…..I hate crying!!!
Chunnie is surely a beautiful view!
I think you really want to post sexy JYJ in this article. 935 comments and rising……
@shuhei babe…..you changed your avatar again?
@Bluesky
Yes baby, but she’s the same. It’s like differents pics of me. She’s my warrior Lady; Terra Branford. ¿Is she beautiful or is she beautiful? Just like me 😉
LOLOL, im helping to contribute to the number here..please do, even if we dun hit 1k just reward us jyjers! We r all tired out from fighting today n urgently need an injection of jyj smexiness 😀
BRING it on @dolta …
in that case, i’ll help rising up comments here…smexy JJ, here i come !
@dolta
in that case, i will post more..wanna see the smexy pic wuhooo..
what happen to your ava? ^^
POST IT POST IT POST IT! 1013 comments as I type this 😀
@dolta
bring more JYJ SMEXY now since we has reach 1000+
Why of the sudden we have an influx of SOME “delusional” OT5ers on this site??
This site clearly STATES JYJ3!!
Oh my goodness!!
As many have mentioned before OT5 fans are welcomed here as long as they RESPECT the site and their RULES!
I am an enlightened OT5 and I find some of the “lost” OT5 comments quite ~___~
I was a hardcore OT5 fan so I can understand you somewhat. I was an official BigEast member I bought ALL versions of their CDs and DVDs Korean and Japanese. I saved and saved money to buy all their photobooks and special editions and official fangoods. I was a total cash machine for them. I went to as much concerts and fanmeetings as possible, did fan projects and so on. So yes I was a total hardcore fan.
When they announced the lawsuit I was devastated, angry and hurt. At both parties. I admit I was irrational then I was very angry at both JYJ and HoMin… I was soo invested!
How dare they destroy my beloved DBSK! All my efforts! All my love!!
My beautiful dream/fantasy of them were shattered and burnt to nothing!
And then I calmed down and realised how SELFISH my love for them was. I was sucked into the “packaging” cookie cutter idol image SM and AVEX promoted….. oh yes… I was sucked into the pairing shipping too.
I realised that I really didn’t know them at all… I didn’t know how much they suffered and hurt at the hands of their so called “family oriented” company.
I followed the lawsuit avidly and did active research… as I dug deeper I was shocked!
My eyes were slowly being opened. The curtain that the companies that have covered my eyes were slowly being ripped away.
I had such a difficult time about the split! At first I totally supported both groups separately.
When JYJ released “The..” I bought all versions.. I even fought to get tickets to see the Thanksgiving live… and when HoMin had their Korean single out I bought all versions as well. At that time in my heart I supported ALL 5 because at that time I believed that ALL 5 had the same heart and mind. How could I chose? It was like choosing which hand you want to keep and amputating the other. I couldn’t choose!! They still loved each others like brothers. That is what I believed in.
Throughout this time I looked at JYJ and HoMin at a different light. It was like relearning about them.
And then Shiat hit the fan when THE TV interview happened and the Twittergate fiasco and the “geese comments” and so on. My heart literally broke. I was in shock…….
All this time JYJ expressed their love and reached and reached…. but to what result?.. To be shot down, their hearts ripped out and stabbed and stomped upon and stuck in the fire to burn to ashes and then given back to them with malice.
I was in denial, I made excuses for HoMin, they don’t mean it, SM is controlling them…. they are brainwashed…..blah blah blah…..
I was waiting for some small gestures for HoMin to show JYJ that they still cared anything at all….. but my wait was wasted and futile. They never once did anything. I was disappointed. My eyes were opened up even more.
My love for HoMin diminished. I was soo hurt. Can you imagine the depth of hurt JYJ felt?
Never once JYJ bad mouthed anyone. They stayed classy and mature throughout all of this and still is. My respect for them is growing by the second.
Don’t get me wrong I still keep up with the news of HoMin but my heart isn’t really into it anymore. They chose their path and JYJ chose theirs.
Now hypotheically if none of the shiat ever happened…. let’s say none of the malicious interviews happened, none of the cockblocking of TV, music shows appearance happened, then I am all up for a reunion.
But as you can see all the that Shiat DID happen.
Trust is broken.
It won’t happen any time soon……….. maybe somewhere in the distant distant future but now NOWAY!
Before any of the “lost” OT5ers come into OUR JYJ house to preach and moan and complain and rant and rave……. do you homework. Have solid proof of your facts. READ THE RULES AND RESPECT JYJ’S HOME!
You are welcomed here as long as you have manners!
To all others…. I apologise for the long rant.!!
@kementari8… very well said, and U have indeed done your homework!
As I’m a new and solely pure fan of JYJ (smitten by PYC after watching SKKS!), I am not interested in their past with DBSK at all…. I hope this rumour is not true as it’s obvious that AVEX is just using this news to boost up their ‘recent lack of success’. *tsk tsk*
Am waiting patiently for official announcement from Cjes on this piece of ‘shocking’ news..
no need to apologize i enjoyed reading it and I am sure many other fans experienced similar things as you did. I know I did. hopefully more fans will educate themselves with the facts and think twice about posting “oh i won’t get my hopes up but it would be soo amazing i would die of happiness” <—that you see are like 95% of the comments at other sites. (except if they come here i they will probably be overwhelmed by the 1000 ments XD) if people looked alittle closer, even putting aside the fact that this article is wrong on sooo many levels, and realized a reunion = a LOT of pain for a LOT of people they would rethink it. I trust JYJ enough to know they would not open a wound that is just starting to heal.
it is very sad to think that the progress JYJ have made can be pushed aside and abandoned by a whisper from an unreliable tabloid!
@kementari8
how i wished all ot5 like you…but what can we do? Some ppl just dont want to listen, read and understand anything. This kind of situation will always appear.
@Kementari thank you for writting those words.. I think many of us can recognize themselves in your story.. I was also an OT5 (DBSK fan since 2006), until HoMin released “Keep your head down”, using the name meant for the 5.. singing a song that korean fans considered as highly disrespectful for JYJ and explained us why.. then came those interviews and hurtful words from those two.. while JYJ never said anything bad against HoMin, those two were blaming and insulting them publicly.. this was the last straw for me.. it was the end of my story as an OT5.. from this moment, I became a JYJ fan only.. I knew right away where my heart stood.. I can’t forget, nor forgive, and I dont buy that SME forced them to say those words or so.. And honestly, if I respect everyone’s choice, it doesn’t mean I understand it.. yeah, I can’t understand how we can support the both side, when supporting one side means you’re helping to erase the other side from the music industry world..
Sounds a lot like my story. DBSK5 was literally the thing that held my life together during my teen years. I don’t know how I would have turned out if not for them. For that, they’ll always have a spot in my heart. But the past is the past.
I probably called myself a Cassie from 2007 till right up to Homin’s infamous interviews. After that, I was a JYJ fan all the way and never looked back. I don’t dislike Homin and I don’t ever intentionally bash them either (some fans take any criticism and disappointment as bashing), but they can’t convince or inspire me anymore.
Right now I can’t be happier as a JYJ fan. I even wonder if I could be this happy if they didn’t break up, and I don’t think I can. As a DBSK5 fan, I have always been subconsciously aware of this shady side to SMe and the whole Korean music business, their restless schedules, restrictions, and unhappiness. No one ever said anything about it, but as they grew older, and their schedules also grew with time, it was obvious. So I am happy about the breakup in a way that most DBSK5 won’t be. It took me a year to finally admit this to myself, but it’s true. JYJ is free musically, happy with where they are in life, busy because they want to be, tired from staying up too late on Twitter… I can go on and on. Even before the lawsuit, I couldn’t see their future as DBSK5, no matter how much I loved them. There was a gut feeling that in a couple of years, they’ll no longer be idols because that’s just how SMe works. But now I can see their future as JYJ.
@kementari8 i think i can understand you very well as i’m also in a silmilar situation/position as you are in… i was also a follower of them 5 since 2006.. how i wish i had the time/money & best of all – in the same country as they are in then i will be able to attend all of their events/concerts/fanmeeting etc…
when i heard about the lawsuit, the 1st thing that came through my mind was that it’s just a rumour, it’s typically what will happen to a very famous group – everyone wants to spread rumours about them… i choose to believe that all is not true.. unfortunately in the end, it does really happen.. and omg.. to be honest, i had the same thoughts too.. why did they want to separate, why can’t they talk it out calmly, why they want to leave each other.. and for a while, i did not follow any of their news.. at the very beginniing, i don’t even know that they are going to continue their activities as 2 and 3.. i only know that JJ & YC are releasing their singles.. i thought all are going to be on hiatus first before the company decides what to do with them…
When i return to the fandom, I heard that JYJ are going to release their worldwide album, Jap album, jap concert… that’s when i started to follow them again…
i think a lot of us here agrees with you when we saw the other 2 came out using the name meant for 5, released song which seems to be pointing towards jyj, taking interviews which has words that will hurt our boys, that’s when i was so disappointed with them.. i won’t say i hate them since they have done nothing to harm me and i’m in no position to say that either.. just disappointed.. that’s the time when i whole-heartedly supported JYJ..
so for now, i will support whatever jyj had decided for themselves because i trust them.. they have already matured into men and i know that they will make decisions that are for their own benefits.. nobody can force them to do what they don’t want to do.. and if they want it, nobody can stop them too! i just want them to be happy..
@JYJ Love
” i choose to believe that all is not true.. unfortunately in the end, it does really happen.. and omg.. to be honest, i had the same thoughts too.. why did they want to separate, why can’t they talk it out calmly, why they want to leave each other.. ”
I think they did not “want to leave each other” at all at first. I’m certain they had many meeting among themselves about their unhappiness at SM and what to do about it. It wasn’t that the members of JYJ had a problem with Homin in the beginning. Their problem was with SM. It was when Homin chose to stay with SM and then started to say hurtful and UNTRUE things about them publicly that the real problems began among the members.
@lilibaiyu hi sis,yup.. i know that..it’s just that at the very beginning when the whole thing starts, nobody knows exactly what happen between them. followers of the 5 will be very upset and hurt that they are splitting up, that’s why i have these qns on my mind.. after getting to know more details and the reason behind, that’s when i let go of the past and move on. i was in full support of them leaving SM rite now, and it’s fortunate that they left… i cannot imagine how much they have suffered during their 6yrs there…
when the other 2 started to say hurtful and untrue things abt jyj, that’s also the point whereby i totally give up and don’t care about the other 2.. Right now, i still cherished the memories of them as 5 up till 2009.. beyond that, IT’S SIMPLY JUST JYJ!!!
@JYJ Love
“hi sis,yup.. i know that..it’s just that at the very beginning when the whole thing starts, nobody knows exactly what happen between them. followers of the 5 will be very upset and hurt that they are splitting up, that’s why i have these qns on my mind.. ”
If only all the OT5 people were as wise and perceptive as you are, this ridiculous fanwar would end TODAY.
xxoo
@kememtari8…..you are.back…I so worries for you..you dont know how hard i wish you well..happy to see you here…sorry i can tpye long i have only haft eye to see..my turn i am get sick now…hopefully when i come back see you again ^_______^
@anva
Oh no!!! Please take care!!!
Is your eyes ok???? I am worried!! Eyes are important….TT.TT
I hope that that you will have a speedy recovery!!
Please take care!!
All my wishes and care to you!!!
*furiously virtually sending you virtual energy*
My goodness, what a record!! the comments will reach 1000 soon, kekeke…..
First thing I did in the morning is to check my email. And what the fcuk is that? I had 600 unread messages all from this post? If I had known I shouldn’t subscribed! Damn i though last night it will end but then I missed the good part! Shit should have not sleep!
My opinion. THERE IS NO WAY THEY”LL GO BACK TOGETHER. JUST LOOK AT CHANGMIN’S FACE AND IT SPELL RIOT!!!! THAT KID WILL BE FURIOUS SINCE HE WAS VERY EVIDENT WITH HIS ANGER TOWARDS THE THREE!
And I agree to most who have said that HOMIN ARE ADULTS WHO ARE VERY MUCH RESPONSIBLE WITH THE WORDS COMING FROM THEIR MOUTH. They’re no kids… same with JYJ though I never heard the three said something bad with the two. JYJ ONLY FAUGHT AGAINST SME not HOMIN.
i tink v shld not start bashing each other based on what AVEX/ SME planned to do w/ JYJ. it’s AVEX/SME plan, not JYJ’s, ryte? After what happened within this 2 years, i believe that JYJ had matured enuf 2 decide wht is best for them…
As a fan, v cared for what JYJ tink, not what SME/AVEX want to do w/ JYJ. Pls bear in mind, JYJ is not under SME/AVEX control anymore. If JYJ wants to reunite w/ TVXQ2, no one cn stop them .. if they refused to reunite, no 1 cn force them to get together. Flashing TVXQ5 banners on concerts, tweets, sharing AKTF vids/photos on social network…wont do much help either. What v cn do, is to support whatever their decision is… U may b an OT5 or JYJ fan, but U gather here bcos of U ♥ JYJ. Lets spread more love and respect for JYJ and among ourselves, shall v? ^~^
I’m adding +1 comment in here to support 1000 comments in this post… ^___^
Sorry, OOT I know.. But i think my heart and mind has decided and not one godamn OT5 word can change me.. Sorry..
Girls.. come on..
LOL at I’m adding +1 comment in here to support 1000 comments in this post… ^___^
*yaaawwwwwn*
*continues her math work*
TOOOOO TIRED AFTER READ ALL THIS COMMENT?NOPE?THIS IS VIDEO TO JYJERS IN THIS POST….AND PLEASE CHILDREN DON’T SEE THIS…..THIS IS WARNING???
@dolta you are the best, you post so many awsome videos!!!! You make my day, love them all!!!!!!!
Thank you So So much for the videos !
OMO dolta…..
You have incessantly killed me with those videos…..
+___+
Jaejoong…..ohhh….Jaejoong (struggling for air).
I don’t want the videos dolta!! (gluing eyes to JJ chest and the visible upper part of his skin above his pants…..)
@Dolta
I was wrong baby; you ARE being pervy, LOL. But you did as you said; you’re a girl of your word 😉
They are amazing simply awsum … http://sandyyadav.com/
BORING? ANGRY?WANT TO SMACK someone? CHILL OUT?LETS SMILE AND SEE THIS….AND I’M NOT PERVY XD
Thanks dolta……^__^
I didn’t look at JJ’s kiss. It might raise something within me…..
@Dolta
My girl, you made me laugh a lot. ¡ROFLMAOO! ¡What an opportune post the one of yours sister! And you aren’t being pervy 😉
If you watch the video of the recent Lotte fan meeting, Jae sings a bit of the song W, the song about how much they love Homin from 2010, before all the terrible trouble started with the new 2hoshinki. Did you see it? Yuchun refused to sing that song. He said he likes another song instead.
Avex continues to justify their greedy and mafia type behavior by claiming they are doing it for the sake of Tohoshinki, to get them back together, to be the savior. If you interfere with their activities and tell lies about them, but claim you are doing everything to get them back together, I guess that makes you a savior.
It is nice to know that only a tabloid would print such an outrageous story. When they first started all the mainstream media reported such ridiculous things as fact. Still OT5 fans are so delusional and unwilling to face reality that they find this story hopeful.
‘If you watch the video of the recent Lotte fan meeting, Jae sings a bit of the song W, the song about how much they love Homin from 2010, before all the terrible trouble started with the new 2hoshinki. Did you see it? Yuchun refused to sing that song. He said he likes another song instead.’
Omg. I thought it was just my eyes fooling with me, LOL. Ahh.
This, darling OT5s. This is one of the many proofs of just how much things have changed since then.
I can’t believe the news or the comments that I’m reading! Yes I think it is an insult in any body intelligent if we were to say they r going to get back just so avex wont bankrupt. Or the chance avex is going bankrupt.
But i can’t believe how people are saying jyj can’t work with homin. What do you mean by that? They lived and worked together for yearsss! And if all those years is history and it doesn’t count for anything, then why does JJ still put jyj from tvxq at his twitter account? “TVXQ soul” is clearly tattoo on JJ back and “TVXQ MYC” is still tattoo in yc’s body! If they want those tattoo can be remove by laser treatment but you don’t see either of them get “TVXQ” remove from their body.
I love and respect them. I had follow them from tvxq to jyj/homin and I will continue to support them if they decide to get back together or not. And if they decide to change a different combination i will still support them. Because I love them, and all I’m asking is for you all to respect them no matter what they decide to do in their life.
No one denies that they were from TVXQ, just that their future is not with TVXQ. People can live for years together and still not remain together at the end. That’s why there are marriages that break after 40+ years together, what’s a mere decade to that? All those years are history now, and obviously they do count for something (if you have ever pay attention in school to why we study history, then you’ll know that history still has worth). But is all those years together enough to cover two years of silence, miscommunication, hurt feelings, and betrayal (from either standpoint)? Even real bonds of brotherhood can break under those circumstances.
Both sides have said that they want to continue as their respective groups in different interviews. Therefore, I will respect them and their choices. Obviously, both sides know what they want for their future, so why are fans like you trying to doubt their convictions?
go read stuff in JYJFiles, Im lazy to explain and you will understand why people were saying why JYJ cant work with HoMin. So many things had done and been said, both side had been hurt each other. You be crazy for thinking they can still holding hands and skipping around the kindergarten.
Even punching cant put them back as they were before.
@Angela
The removal of a simple tattoo leaves deep scars, now you are here telling us that if Jaejoong and Yoochun don’t want to be a part of TVXQ anymore, they should remove their big tattoos by laser treatment. ¿Are you a dumbo or are you a dumbo? It’s impossible to think for an instant in damaging their beautiful backs forever. Even one single cell of them is representative; the suffering, the hard works, the huge efforts. They are not ungrateful men, they remember where they come from, but now everything is brand new and far more better. And you have to grow up and learn how to live with it.
@Shuheilove
Exactly! Don’t know what these people are thinking…..geez~ can’t get into their tiny brain to see.
@Shadow
My lovely J2, you know baby, these people only think about what they want, their wishes and their feelings. The boys don’t matter; they’re here just to please their Ot5 fans and to do as they want; end of the story. ¡GEEZ! ¡How selfish and arrogant a younglin can be!
Apparently, remembering the past or the root where you come from means you want to go back there. Love is meant to be FOREVER. It can never end *shakes my head*
See the reality where people stay together for 20 years + and still leave each other and never look back or sometimes hate each other. Open your eyes and see even if you remember your ex or have something belong to your ex doesn’t mean you want that ex to come back. The present and the past shouldn’t be mixed together.
apart from anything else, Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yuchun have exactly as much right to the name TVXQ as Yunho and Changmin. That’s a COURT DECIDED QUESTION! The five people own the name, not Yunho+Changmin, not SME, not Avex, not anyone other than ALL FIVE MEN! So why ~should~ Jaejoong and Yuchun have to take the tattoos off? It’s THEIR NAME too! Always was, and always will be. No one can take it away from them. The ONLY reason that Yunho and Changmin are getting away with using the name is because Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yuchun are too f–king nice for their own damn good and haven’t gotten around to suing the hell out of the other two and SME to force them to stop using the name. Which they have EVERY BLOODY RIGHT to do so! and JYJ is the majority owner of TVXQ anyway. Last I checked, 3/5 > 2/5.
http://jyj3.net/2011/01/30/trans-how-did-sm%E2%80%99s-trademark-to-%E2%80%98dong-bang-shin-ki%E2%80%99-get-rejected/
Here is the most relevant portion:
“The requested trademark filed by SM Entertainment is inextricably and intrinsically connected to famous a cappella dance and singing group members U-know Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun, Xiah Junsu and Choikang and as such, under Trademark Act Article 7.1.6, this request cannot be accepted. In addition, because this request involves minors, under Patent Law Article 3, Article 5 and Article 909 of the Civil Code, it is necessary to also obtain the permission of the minors’ parents and submit it in writing. End.”
@Springbok7
” Last I checked, 3/5 > 2/5.”
I often wonder why some of us are so angered by this co-opting of the name, and maybe far more importantly the legacy and the history of DBSK/TVXQ than others seem to be. Homin loving Cassies and BigEasts don’t seem to have problem with it at all. (Well, add this to the LIST of uncomfortable realities that they seem not overly concerned about.) Others of us have a big BIG problem with it and would opt for further litigation to stop Homin, which I’m pretty sure JYJ would win, the sooner the better. Still others say, “Yes, JYJ must sue but let’s wait until the main lawsuit is settled to do it.”
Then again, usage of the name may be a negotiating point in the settlement portion of the lawsuit even as we speak. I think either it should be OR Homin should be required to pay JYJ a fair percentage of their earnings for continuing to use the name in perpetuity. (Believe me, this has been done before here in the U.S. when groups break up and someone has thought to trademark the name previously. Many a producer, etc. has retired comfortably this way.) That name is a supremely valuable asset, that’s the bottom line. JYJ are entitled either to a portion of earnings in connection with it, or the name should not be used at all. Anyone who disagrees with this, well — once again it must be said that they do not know much yet about how the real world operates and how valuable assets communally owned must be divided equally among the owners of those assets once they have decided to part.
@Lili, =P sis, you already know how i feel about the whole name thing. But then again I have been called a vindictive bitch once or twice. It’s stuff like this that are the few times I get really annoyed with JYJ and wanna smack them upside the head. But I have to take a deep… DEEEP breath, and remind myself that if I say I trust them then i need to trust them 100%.
but yeesh, it might be painful in the short term to do some of the things they “should” do, but in the long run it would be SO much better for ALL parties if they did them. there’s more i could say but.. yeah i’m just going to stop here LOL!
@springbok7
“sis, you already know how i feel about the whole name thing. But then again I have been called a vindictive bitch once or twice.”
lol In this particular venue, that just means you’re paying attention. 😛
My firm conviction is that the Sejong Law Firm is staffed with legal eagles who are no dummies, no shrinking violets. And they are out to protect JYJ’s interests big time. This is what we should trust in. I am certain that they will continue to raise the issue of profit participation in the usage of the name. ANY entertainment lawyer knows how potentially valuable this name it–why do you think SM wanted to retain it so badly? They unfortunately are no dummies either.
Maybe never before in their history as a company has SM had to go toe to toe in court with the likes of Sejong. Most likely they have “negotiated” mainly with starry-eyed teenagers’ parents with no legal representation whatsoever. This fact is maybe the main one that drew me into this fight early last year. This is so unfair, so one-sided, so heinous really it defies my best explanations of how it could have even been allowed. In the U.S. record companies will not negotiate with lay people when doing record deals because they know that down the road, if the group becomes unhappy anywhere along the line, it’s an easy out for them to claim that they had inadequate legal representation. This fact IN ITSELF, even if SM was thoroughly on the up and up otherwise, would have invalidated DBSK’s contract.
Well, didn’t Pissass Sue Me admit himself that the business model of SME would not work in the US? Gee I wonder why? Can’t possibly be those pesky child-labour laws, or those annoyingly profit-damaging fair wage laws… OOO what about those dreadful you-can-only-make-your-employees-work-8-hours-a-day laws? Nope, it’s the fact that South Korea has such an advanced and amazingly forward worker environment. Wow, they are really something, aren’t they?
/sarcasm
In the bottom of my heart, I hope that the five can reunite again. “Only when we are five are we called DBSK”. The combination of the five’s voices is so perfect!
But can it? I think it is nearly impossible. Also, I think it is AVEX just want to use JYJ as its profit center. Wanna Jaejoongie as he is the most popular in Japan? After what you (AVEX) and your holly shitty colony (SMENT) have done to him (Jaejoongie) and JYJ? Furthermore, “if” they reunite again someday, will their relationship stay the same as before DBSK broke?
I also don’t think Yunho is appropriate to be a leader of DBSK, it Jaejoong who is more suitable to held that position! Look, how he cares about his dongsaeng?
Also, I am Junsu’s bias, and I am really disappointed for what Homin have done to our Junsu in the past. I always think, how could you betray your friends like that?? Well, you (Homin) do have a choice whether to stay or leave, however, you should not do something bad like that to JYJ’s members!
Now, I just hope the best for JYJ. Hope them find their happiness. Hope them to live well. Hope they can express and show their amazing talents! For the chance of DBSK to reunite again, we, JYJ fans, just can pray so that just the good will be done to JYJ! 😀
come on guys, only 17 more comments to break 1000! >:) HAHAHAHAH!
and just over 400k this to break 20MILLION!!!!
LOL
i think it has been past 1000 right now
I think it’s 987+, but yes, at this rate it’s going to pass 1000 soon. At the end of the day, this post is going to be something for us JYJ fans to laugh about. ^^
This was supposed to be a reply to @miaw 😛 (Yay one more comment!!)
ROFL
if it’s not reach 1000 yet then i’m gonna added 1 comment now
wow…
my contribution to reach 1000 comments…
🙂
i wish JYJ tink d same way as described in tis parody ^~^
This video is awsome, Loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone (my dear JYJers) want contributed their comment for reach 1000 comments again ?
after that let’s party !!!!!
Okay….. 🙂
Let’s….
Bring…
The….
Party…..
OH please let me be the 1000th comment…. it was 998 when I was writing this.
YES!!! I think my post above is the 1000th comment…. I beat @AFriendofJYJ be a hairline. PARTY PARTY PARTY!!!!
NOOOOOO!!!!!!
Check the time my Friend….. hehehehe… 3:26 am for mine and 3:26am for yours!
HAHAHAHAHA (evil laugh)… that’s why I beat u by a hairline my friend. I’m the 1000th post and you’re is the 1001…
Just trolling around coz seems like a lot of people still haven’t said enough. What part of NOT HAPPENING they didn’t get? The “NOT” or the “HAPPENING” part???
@iamjyjfanboy
Seriously… the whole thing was so ridiculous. Just was not worth the time or the energy to formulate responses when dealing with so much delusion. Normally I’d have a lot to say… but this time… I just felt exhausted by it all, been there done that… too many times… same thing over and over.
But looks like it’s not going to “die” anytime soon.
Oh Well..
I stopped reading comments when I saw it reached 600. From what I read, it all the same argument over and over again… I figured if they didn’t get the message by the 800th comment then delusional fans will never get it even if we reach 2000 comments. It would just frustrate both sides…
Still, it make JYJ3 site more lively and many more fans will know about it and probably gain more popularity or notoriety.
Okay You won…. It was that face that threw me off!!! KRUMS!
ROFL….
@iamjyjfanboy…
hehehehe… We both posted at 3:26 am…. We are both #1000!!
congratz for u guys
ROFL
this a new record for our site
1 post can bring 1000+ comments for 2 days
and it still keep going on
and going… and going…
And on… and on…. and on….. and on…..
Like the Energizer Bunny!
When will this END???
lol sorry, i’m sure i’m partly to blame, as i’ve just added several more replies to the post. but there were some questions raised by people that weren’t answered that looked like they might actually learn from the information replied, so I did. LOL!
@springbok
LOL I saw that you were posting WAY WAY UP YONDER!!!
After reading I said…ohh I see .. she is “EDUCATING” those trolls…. So its all good.. 😉
Must we invite the antis everyday? It seems as bad news can sell more, controversy works awesomely anywhere….:)
Nope, thats allkpop.
@A fri @fanboy
I am reading comment from below,not wanting headache. What ever come our way our JYJers can still make fun of it LOL.
Exactly!
Might as well try to have some fun!
ON!!!! 1000!!!!! POSTS!!! 🙂 🙂
honestly, tis ‘reunion’ rumour is js 2 sudden.. i m seriously x prepared for reunion. I wonder what wld happened if reunion occured? JYJ had 2 re-composed all tracks in ‘In Heaven’ album in w/ 2 additional voice? or js keep those tracks in cold storage..and start composing new songs again for d sake of performing at concerts? either way, I m x prepared for that… ><
There’s really no need to even speculate that far into it since this rumor is probably Avex-created BS. It’s like speculating on what music to play in a party after peace is achieved in the Middle East. It’s so far in the future (and may never be realized in our lifetimes) that there’s no point.
@Jaime
“It’s like speculating on what music to play in a party after peace is achieved in the Middle East.”
LOL to your comment. The war and agressions in the Middle East have no ending; their issues were born since the beginning of humanity and those will continue until the end. Just take your own conclusions 😉
ok i know this has nothing to do with the topic but …
“The war and agressions in the Middle East have no ending; their issues were born since the beginning of humanity and those will continue until the end”
im sorry but that offended me and dont let me start to talk about politics and why all these things happened , oh and if i continue it will have to do with religion and muslims and etc and i wanna SAY MORE and lets see what’s going to happen in the end , just wait .. but i will just stop here since i know ALOT of people will be offended , so since im arabian and a Muslim i dont like these jokes .
oh and i really cant explain what i want to say since english isn’t my native language and i’m sorry if i sound sensitive and overprotective .. and if i misunderstood you then i’m sorry
@Megajaefan
Sorry but I don’t get why are you feeling offended. We said that only to illustrate the fact that the discussions between Ot5 and JYJers seem to be endlessly. We were not talking about politics nor the situation in the Middle East. Please excuse us. We have no authority to talk about politics.
POST… 1001….
Have we said ALL that can be said on this topic???
burn avex!!!!!!!! go 1000 comments
LOL…..
😀 😀 😀 😀
YES TO REUNION of ALL JYJ FANS ….cheers!!!
because of this article, we have a REUNION, if you scroll from top to bottom, you can see almost all the names of all JYJ3ers, even the lurkers of course with the special participation of our wanted/UNWANTED guests.
JYJ3ers who has not dropped your comment yet, bring it on!
@kris
true reunion LOL
@kris
LOL!!! Loving the JYJ3 family reunion! 😀
from @Ronnie
which I think the most hilarious comment :
“how the hell are they suppose to do a reunion without it being as uncomfortable as getting hemmrroids removed?”
bwahaha, funny but it’s true, can you imagine how uncomfortable if you put them, JYJ and Homin, on stage together now and to sing Bolero or Love in the Ice.
note: this comment is just for fun, no need to stress your heart to reply
@kris
I liked that comment too
Im number 1028th commentor. Dear god!
long time loading for the huge capacity, okey count me #1029. Should admin make statistic who the smart and stupid one here, also age maturity indicator, maybe teenage,adult,auntie lol ^_^ meh…. “A mature person is one who is does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably”
JYJ boys become JYJ men now,….also the other two, I think their fans should have the same spirit too.
much love for you all……… and Happy Birthday for my inspiration Kim Jaejoong, who have beautiful voices also angel personality, kisss<3
“teenage,adult,auntie..” – Don’t forget Granny ^-~
okay this post is flying hot crazy!!!!
but are you agree if tvxq comeback as five?
whatever it is.. 5 0r 3 .. as long there is JYJ there.. i’ll be there too….
be with them always! 🙂
honestly.. i agree with you ._.
I think the day TVXQ comeback as five so far…Better live today…
I guess how can HoMin catch up with the level of JYJ’s singlive? Do you not see JYJ of today is perfect only 3 person with angel voice No1 Kpop? heard someone talk that HoMin lipsing like SM family, right?
@ jj’s: If the impossibility is under consideration, below are the conditions:
1. HoMin (Changmin) must abandon SME.
2. Changmin (and Yunho) must apologise to JYJ on all medias.
3. HoMin must give JYJ some times to reconsider the ‘come back’
4. They must befriend each other before coming to that ‘come back’ point
5. JYJ must give their consent
What do you think about supporting them as 2 groups?
wow 1000 + comments.. O.o
seriously.. there is fiesta here.. i can’t keep up T.T
Fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *thats all i can contribute. lol
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
dolta sweetie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought this is over….when I saw more have come…..:)
Hello all, first time actually reading through all the comments because I really wanted to get an idea of what others felt about this. I guess we can all agree that this is a joke. A pretty mean one.
As a Cassie, I’m fiercely loyal to my 5 boys, and had hoped for a reunion because it pained me to see them apart and because they were epic together. But as things progressed and the situation escalated, my hopes for a reunion dwindled as I realised that too much damage has been done, there’s nothing left to salvage and if the 5 of them did come back together, it would undermine all the effort JYJ has put in over the last few years.
Leaving DBSK and SME was probably the hardest thing for JYJ to do, but it was also the best. I’ve always loved them, but I’ve never loved and respected them as much as I do now. I never wanted to take sides (despite always being partial towards Jaejoong) but if it ever comes down to it, I will stand up for these 3 men.
Because while HoMin had a right to choose to stay and keep the DBSK name for themselves, and while I can understand that it must be difficult to try and contact JYJ, it doesn’t compute in my brain how they could say hurtful things so easily about people who’ve gone through thick and thin with them.
It makes me one bitter Cassie, and one really upset JYJ fan.
So while I will buy both their albums and support them wholeheartedly as 2 separate units, I hope it remains that way. Because JYJ is complete and perfect already, no need for additions.
Homin without JYJ dead
JYJ without Homin live
Homin without JYJ = nothing
JYJ without Homin = everything
It’s Party time !!! JYJers Reunion !!!
GOSH!!! It’s over 1000 +++ comments!!!!!!
Throw confetti!! Paint rainbows!!! Shinning star and bright sunlight!! LOL!!!
A big thank to delusional OT5 for making JYJ3 soooooo “alive” with contribution with your “lovely” Never-the-New the same old old old comments with much copy, paste and edit of one another!! Please don’t cry so much and disrupt your own lives. Your parents will worry about you, especially your mentality.
And A big hugz to all JYJers. Oh yes, this is our reunion! ^______________________^
It’s Party time^___^
jump…jump….jump…
yeah parteeeeiii!
🙂
HEY EVERYBODY!
Let’s do 500 Jumps! hehehehehehehe
1. jump…jump…jump Partaaaaie!
jump jump jump jump ha ha lets party @a fri I cannot do 500 jumps my poor body
Yeh nobody can….. LOL
jump..jumpp..jump…
washes away all tears and just be happy! :))
WOW…….ALL MY JYJ3 FAMILY SISTERS HERE…AS THEY ARE PROMISE WITH ME ^-______________^I am getting worse more than my avatar but i am really happy to see you all…reunite?.. don’t need to say more..just see the reunite of JYJ3
@Anva
Sweetie, why are you saying you’re getting worse? ¿Are you sick? Please tell me.
@anva
Are you sick sweetie? Kementari mentioned your eyes? I hope it’s nothing serious. *Sending lots of hugs, love & good energy to you*
Wish you well soon, Dear @anva
1088!!!!!this is a lot of comments…record breaking!and that’s because of the “savior” AVEX (and the trolls of course!) LOL!
they sure know how to get people hyped up , just look at the amount of comments , media knows how to get people attention
anyway
db5k is a beautiful memory to me and i want it to stay just like that
i like jyj as what they are now and i 100% support them !! just stop blocking jyj and i would be a little bit more happy ^___^
THE END!
whow………
It’s the fisrt time there are many comments like this.
JYJ and JYJfans, fighting………..
whether they reunion or not, i just wish that none of them hurt.. no more cry of sadness,,,but just happiness all together..it’s enough to see their tears of sadness,,
if the reunion makes them happy and could give them better relationship each other, i do agree the reunion,
but if the reunion makes their life screwed again, and just bring them tears…just let them like today…
I JUST WANT THEM SMILING, NO MORE TEARS!! it breaks up my heart to see they’re suffering from all the things that has happened today…
In my heart, i really really want JYJ keep going without Homin!! they’re doing well by their own!!!
hurr….all i can say is “yawn, i’m over this”…
i’ll always miss them.
JYJ FIGHTING!!!!!!REUNION?NO…NO…NO….NO
too much comments here and i have limited time so i skip around 50% of the comments
+OMG! i just saw this article. First Avex pls stop giving those ot5 fans false hope for the sake or ur selfishness.
what if the reunion didn’t happen? blame it on JYJ again? if ur using this article to promote homin’s japan tour then f*ck u!
stop these nonsense. To avex and a**holes..u hurt JYJ again esp jj i’ll kill u !
@ nomusicnolife
My dear, we have told you that most of the comments here are thrash. And those antis usually submitted something but were very irresponsible with their comments. They submitted, they ran away.
And no worries, we have them served well. They have gone like unwanted flies.
Dolta’s vids are awesome. Don’t miss it while staying here…..
See ya!
not gonna linger here anymore ~ my eyes gets @_@ cos too much comments
and thank you for the hard work 😀
i watched it ! *faints* hahahaha
read like 20 of the comments and gave up. srs. i support tvxq as a 5 member group. even if they are seperated.
i think the biggest to blame is s.m. cuz like someone said, its not homin’s fault that they stayed, cuz personal reasons etc. and yes both sides had to face diff obstacles.
tho i have to say that homin shud feel bad for using the same name, which i think they do except they cant tell it to the public. they re still under s.m’s prison, which we shud feel sorry for them for. and we shud be glad jj, js and yc can be free musicians and express their own ideas.
but whenever i hear any of their voices, it only makes me think of EVERYONE. Junsu, Yuchun, Jaejoong, Changmin and Yunho. I don’t think any Cassie would forget about that. I still have full albums of TVXQ2 music in my itunes library but i rarely listen to any. B.U.T. and Keep your head down. But it seems the other songs on their album are mainly “filler” songs u know? Igeot Maneun algoga was a good song. But then again, keep in mind they prob didn’t participate with the lyrics, music etc. tho i do not if im right about it, it only seems normal for a s.m. produced album’s hit song to be NOT written by artists themselves. examples are shinee, snsd(i hattteee them) anyways. tvxq2 don’t rly earn much respect from me in this perspective.
jyj songs on the other hand, earn my respect. but music quality wise, honestly i think they need more experience with managing their own music. i mean its not all about the profit but its always good to put out a rly catchy (no-meaning) song XD
and finally the music of TVXQ5…i don’t rly like any to a crazy extent. becuz again, most of the hit singles/songs arent originally theirs. Stand By U, Kimi o suki ni natteshimattan darou, mirotic, purple line, rising sun, hug, just to name a few. i think the most catchy song from them is are u a good girl? and the best video…obviously…MIROTIC =D dont even have to explain <333
all in all, to me originality affects my preference alot. and the rythum is just as important (imma hiphop dancer)
but strangely enuf, i still love tvxq just because they rly caught my eye and the things theyve gone thru to reach now. even if their music isn't perfect. tvxq will always be the perfect idol group in history