Recently the issue of violence against a fangirl has emerged with much heat. The famous Hero-Jaejoong of TVXQ was caught inflicting verbal/physical offense, the proof recorded as a mp3 file and up online. However, there is a lot more to this issue than what was disclosed in the media. The Korean fans had known all along that someday, there would be hell to pay because of the PRIVATES. Who are the PRIVATES? Just keep reading and you’ll find out.
Below is the original version of the recording.
“Dispatch,” the broadcast company that published this recording, purposely cut out certain parts of the recording to make it sound like Jaejoong constantly swore and inflicted physical offenses to a innocent fan girl. When in truth, this is not what had happened. NOT AT ALL.
Violence is not acceptable and inexcusable in any kind of situation, but in this case, one needs to understand the reasons behind this seemingly appalling act, and WHY this happened.
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE POST
this will educate you about DBSK/TVXQ on a whole new level, since Asian fans did not bother to mention this aspect of TVXQ’s stardom when spreading news.
The crux of this issue is “who are PRIVATES?”
recorded at around September, 2009
*ignore grammatical mistakes, this was directly translated word by word. This is so that Jaejoong’s tone is conveyed with accuracy. (and he is drunk)
JYJ3’s Note: it’s found later that the audio released by Dispatch was edited on purpose to make Jaejoong look as a bad guy.
(start)
JAEJOONG:
following me around and contacting me…
it’s really fun for you guys…
really fun…
never really thinking about how much stressful it is for us
I’d rather become normal and live without any of this
Anywhere I go someone follows
anywhere I go someone calls me
Anywhere i go someone calls me and they’re like
where are you…you’re there right? always living and and running away in this anxiety
am i a convict? ha….i was in Japan for 4days during my vacation. i was in Japan, because of you…because of you, huh? Fuck…it’s funny, right? funny?
if i come (to korea) fuck I have no freedom…do you think i’d be here this fucking…
i’d rather be in a jail and eat fucking bean rice (*what they give out it prison) and exercise. i’d rather go to military and live as a soldier fucking because of you guys…
fuck do I still need to be here (in korea)?
bitches like you….do you know how many of you there are? there are tenfolds, fucking taxi cab drivers need to make a living and take you guys and fucking follow me around…risking their lives and follow me around
even if its the red light…even if there’s a bunch of cars in front…they go into opposite lane and drive in reverse and follow me around…
the fucking bastards who follow me for money and the fans who give them money to follow me…fuck because of the PRIVATES and the PRIVATE CABS follow me, do I have to go hide for the rest of my life? huh? huh? why am I like this am I a convict? do I have to be in Korea because of you bitches? huh? you’re “PRIVATES” you bitches, fuck do I have to live like this? huh? huh? because of you? fuck after this fucking PRIVATE bitches will probably call on the police….you guys will call the police. No, it happened a lot until now. if they don’t they’re nice kids…they do this shit and after fucking call on the police. they say they feel like crap because I fucking shit at them. they ask for compensation those fucking PRIVATES….fuck how do you trust those PRIVATES. Do I have to cover up for those fucking bitches following me around? Bitches? do you know how many times I’ve had to hit you guys on the head like right now? I…in tenfolds…can’t even count it, go bitch, is this fun? oh it’s fun right? here, come here, come closer, is this fun? is this like a survival game? its fun right? fucking fun following me around. If i hit you guys on the head once, then you guys call on the police saying that you can’t go home again ‘cause they’re swollen.
Bitches when i go around all day you’ll follow me and what, you guy’s call the police because you can’t go home? shit, why do you follow me? you’re saying that I can’t go home? you have that much time? Fucking Bitches I only sleep 3 hours a day, what for a week, you guys are saying stuff like, oh Jaejoong’s like vapor, how can he escape so well, you guy’s then call me and text me…it’s also posted on blogs constantly….I always read those blogs that you do…who went to the hair salon and when what time when Changmin did this and when Yunho did that…you guys know everything like fucking wizards
but the rest of you guys…why didn’t they know me? this vacation? why didn’t they know where I went? huh? Should I keep on hiding like this? Hiding is fucking retarded….but what are you guys who follow that around? Huh fucking bitch? As a singer could I ever get a girlfiend? for real? huh? do i have to check your blogs in hours and minute units when I move? huh? Am I the President? fuck you guys are just fucking hoes, at guys huh? you want to get attention from young idol members fucking bitches…all against the privacy of the singer you like and get on taxi cabs, do you have that much money? if you bought even one CD with that money…we would have gotten number one on the chart. fuck, in Japan, we worked for 5 years when we got that number one title and the second or first rank….even if they support so much from DNBN (dbsk fansite), if you guys had bought a fucking CD instead of following me around in taxi cabs we could have fucking went on the Oricon charts for what rank..you bitches always doing this shit with taxis, fuck do you know why I bought my car RA? I bought it to lose the taxis, I bought it to lose the taxis but I just couldn’t bitches there were too many taxis, those fucking taxis really just rolling over for money and follow me to the extreme, you guys spend that money to the extreme and follow me. and you guys are still greedy, with sleep, you guys pull an all-nighter all the time but say say shit about us when we do. And when i get so fucking pissed and can’t contain myself, you say you can’t go home because your face is swollen and want compensation money and call the police bitches.
Are those fans? Shitting…bitches lets see if you fucking go to heaven you fucking bastards fuck…
you think I can like you?
fuck you guys do it like this and thats why we start liking the Japanese business bitches you know? When we do interviews about concerts, what “we like when (Korean) fans sing along during ballad songs”? and “we like the japanese cuz they listen well?” “that is the difference between Korea and Japan?” Fucking Bullshit.
I don’t want to humiliate Korea in Japan so that’s why I say i like that when you guys sing along during ballad songs
fucking always talking always following around always screaming
It’s because of you PRIVATES that we start liking the foreign fans more. Why do you think Japan and China’s like this right now. Its because they’re imitating you guys, the foreigners. are you happy now?
**Korean Fan culture included excessive screaming until the late 2009, when the Cassiopeas changed the official support chant into “quiet during ballads, official/organized chant during dance songs.”
**This recording was done by a Private
Private= are not considered fans. they follow around and kill the privacy of idols. A lot of idols have privates but FT island, Big Bang, and TVXQ is known to have the worse. Especially TVXQ Privates have invented a new method of stalking called the PRIVATE TAXI CABS, in which they pay average $800 to follow TVXQ around. EVERYWHERE.
**TVXQ currently has average 150 PRIVATES following them around.(per day). these include foreign privates from China, Japan, and reaaalllllyyyy the minority European, American fans
**All members of TVXQ have been subject to the crimes of PRIVATES for average 9-10 years. Korean laws can’t protect the star because most of these PRIVATES are underage and those who are not, work in more complicated ways (they’re rich for one, and have a background).
LOOK BELOW FOR THE INFURIATING THINGS PRIVATES DO/DID
PRIVATES.
WHO ARE THEY.
1. What is a PRIVATE?
PRIVATE = a sasaeng fan (a “fan” that stalks the privacy of a star)
definition:
Someone who follows around/ stalk a star (especially an idol star), and watches every single movement with a emotion above a fan’s.
Most of these fans give up on their everyday lives, and follow around the star’s schedule.
These fans are STALKERS that violate the privacy of the star, consequently emerging as a social issue.
Below is from a documentary about “sasaengs”
(below is the translation for the internet postings above)
I’m sorry Yoochun………
I went to a PC bang (internet cafe)….
the ID I had with my name had too much fees due…
i borrowed…f..k..(*this private stole his social security number/ she isn’t the only one)
I really have to have an ID for this place……
and this place has the cheapest fees……..
and Mom’s didn’t work, Dad has his own…….
I couldn’t think of any other Social Security Number….
the ones I thought of….truthfully, your’s is the easiest….
sorry….Yoochun…(laughing sound)
I really needed it thou……f…..
I really needed it!! I’m sorry..I’ll log out afterwards…
What is this you bitch (laughing sound)
Yoochun (laughing sound)
(Translation)
Agency PR:
“It’s a great stress. Even if we don’t disclose the schedule they always follow around. I don’t know how they know
Really, they’re like ghosts, they follow everywhere
Even the stars themselves know, so its a great stress.
That makes the stars become uncomfortable about going outside, so they stop going outside, they stop meeting other people
You can’t see them anything other than a necessary evil. They’re just a social issue.”
(image of Privates of WG asking for where WG lives)
a PRIVATE:
“It’s an addiction. It gets worse. I have to come periodically. If I don’t I keep thinking.
If I don’t go, It’s weird, strange. and makes me want to go..”
2. Write on blogs what the members do.
(From here is a translation of a Korean Post about the PRIVATES)
In a TV Show
Uknow Yunho (TVXQ):
Everythings fine, just don’t come to our house.
Fans:
okay~
have you seen any singers asking directly like that? Even if they do that, the PRIVATES never stop. Have you ever seen the speed of a PRIVATE TAXI CAB? they go over 100km/h, it’s not even one, there are more than ten of these cabs.
More than 80% of the times, the members are involved in a accident because of these PRIVATE TAXI CABS. Around where the members live, there are always PRIVATES sitting around.
-this picture is only a small amount of them
Taxi Cab driver
(normally) they call them PRIVATE TAXI CABS
…
this is what they call a PRIVATE TAXI CAB
they receive around $800, and these drivers contact each other to locate where TVXQ is. After a concert, it’s normal to see at least 10 of these following TVXQ’s van.
(*from a personal account written in the comments: I saw Yunho once and I’m not really a fan so I just thought, oh, cool, an idol star. But when his car started, there were like, at least 15 people who jumped out of their seats and i swear you, 18, friggin 18 TAXI CABS started trailing the guy. I felt really sorry for him.)
They Purposely get involved in (or cause) a car accident.
There are PRIVATE TAXI CAB drivers that signs a contract just to crash TVXQ’s car.
In actuality, Micky and Jaejoong’s personal cars were wrecked purposely.
There was also a time during the 4th album activities when a member was running away from a PRIVATE and had totrash his BMW because he ran into a electric pole trying to escape from these PRIVATES.
365 days a year, they follow them around.
Even during the 10 days vacation TVXQ gets in a year. They even visit the member’s families’ homes, trying to bribe them with presents
TVXQ in a TV Show
Translation:
(for instance Xiah Junsu) his butt
For Jaejoong, it’s his arms and chest muscles
They just touch them. grope it.
among the hordes of people, a hand pops out of between the bodies and starts groping.
Micky’s Twitter
Translation:
“It’s just…too much….I hate it.”
“the people in front of my house….I can’t think of them as anything else than antifans”
“ah…FRUSTRATION!!! the people in front of my house…Please go.”
they copy the member’s phones (this is common), they check all the calls that come to that phone. They even check all the phone numbers in the contacts list just to check if it’s a girl or not.
TV show
Jaejoong:
“I was at the Han River so I texted Yoochun and told him to come out, and when I got a reply, it said ‘who are you and why are you calling Yoochun?’”
3. The star directly pleading
mjjeje (Hero Jaejoong)_for 7 years, on busy days, I didn’t have much time to meet my friends, family and loved ones. Even that time was wasted for average 2, 3 hours on the road, and I couldn’t meet them. I don’t think that’s love. I understand why you miss us…because I did too.
All of us 5 members have experience; we cried at home, we cried on the streets, we were involved in car accidents, but all we saw across the glass windows of the PRIVATE TAXI CABS were smiles and smirks. Of course I tried playing angry. But not only for me, don’t go through that method of love because all it does is shorten our lifespans. I’m sorry late at night…
Jaejoong asked G-dragon from BB if he also had PRIVATE TAXI CABS, and G-dragon didn’t know what they were. In truth, there aren’t that many singers who have PRIVATE TAXI CABS
if you type in 09 in Naver (Korean google), the auto search brings up
090104 (date) DBSK
090104 (date) Yunho
090104 (date) Junsu
090104 (date) Jaejoong
090104 (date) Yoochun
090103 (date) Jaejoong
if you type in “airport in”
in red box
DBSK airport in
if you type in “airport out”
in red box
DBSK airport out
TVXQ has been through this every single day for 9 years. PRIVATES watch everything they do and follow everywhere they go. The proof: you just type in dates and for every single date, information about what TVXQ did where and with whom pops up on “auto search”
(In the case of Korea, the auto search only puts up words that are clicked a certain number of times, nationally, for a long period of time)
A post that came up in a PRIVATE blog. Changmin was trying to shoo the fans in the TAXI CAB and asked them to open the window. The fans closed the window and Changmin’s hands were stuck, bleeding. The fans posted this, enjoying the fact and saying that this was “rare.”
she used a lot of “ㅋㅋㅋ” this is a character that signifies LAUGH in Korean
4. Was hit with a rock by a Chinese PRIVATE
What happened:
Changmin and Jaejoong was in the Sokcho Public road Rest place, in order to go to the bathroom. 2 PRIVATES from China followed them in, trying to get a video footage of this. Jaejoong and Changmin scolded them. Later on, the PRIVATES threw their video camera and swore at Changmin, saying the worst curse in the Chinese language.
沈昌珉 神經病 不得好死(you won’t die in peace)
Constantly hitting Changmin on the shoulders and head with a bag.
Changmin was teary, and when the other members joined him, he started crying.
Worse, that bag was full of ROCKS. This is the picture from when that happened.
These are the type of people they are dealing with
Regarding Changmin, there was another famous happening
Changmin crying because of PRIVATES
there are a lot of versions to this story, but essentially, he 1. cried. 2. fake cried.
to get rid of the PRIVATES. He couldn’t.
-The PRIVATES posted this on their blog with pride.
(note)
Translation:
#
anyone who wants DBSK phone numbers or social security numbers, contact me. I’m not giving them away, I’m selling them. You can’t really say that I can’t do it. A lot of people have been asking on the comments so I’m giving you a chance.
5. saves a PRIVATE who almost got hit by a car, BUT other PRIVATES started imitating
(Picture)
One PRIVATE was almost hit by a car while following Yunho around. After this, other PRIVATES started imitating this, trying to get saved by a member.
6. DBSK says they want to live as an average person in the next life.
Translation:
(I heard Jaejoong cried to his mother during the vacation. That he couldn’t take the PRIVATES anymore. Once DBSK was asked “what do you want to be in your after-life?” Do you know what they said? they all said that they wanted to live as a normal person. They really want to live an average life because of these PRIVATES.)
In truth, not only Jaejoong, but Yoochun mentioned that
“I don’t want to be born again in my afterlife (I don’t want to be reincarnated)”
Other Criminal Acts
-Give Junsu…the blood from…Menstrual Cycle
-Kiss Jaejoong when he is sleeping in his house
-Get Junsu involved in a car accident while following him around
-Identity theft
– Micky Camera Happening (when a PRIVATE slapped Yoochun in the face and Yoochun blocked, and then hit the girl’s elbow with his palm. later this video was spread as “Micky beating up a fangirl” This video can be found on youtube in many angles)
++) Recently Micky was slapped again after leaving a hair salon
– copying the house keys to DBSK’s home
– Changmin’s finger was broken once because of a PRIVATE
-the Rock in the Bag Happening (mentioned above)
-Identity theft with the member’s Family Social Security numbers
-Call member’s family after finding their phone numbers
-Block service of TVXQ’s cellphones and check the call list to make sure who’s a girl or not
-Breaking into TVXQ’s house and look for their legal stamp in order to forge marriage papers
-Put in (their own) underwear into member’s bags
-Stealing member’s possession
They think it’s normal and common to just freely go to and from the member’s house
More below
(a picture of Micky’s house taken by a PRIVATE)
*FYI This apartment is known for one HELL of a security system.
++) I just….can’t….translate this…it’s just too awful….click the link
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=pyc&no=75783&page=1&bbs
three words. CCTV. PARKING LOT. WTF.
(this was not taken by a PRIVATE source.
A person requested to spread these pictures to spread awareness)
TV Show
Jaejoong (or Yoochun):
Once a member was sleeping and in the middle of the night, the sensor lights were flicking on and off, when the members checked, there was a girl standing there alone in their house
-Micky Camera Happening (when a PRIVATE slapped Yoochun in the face and Yoochun blocked, and then hit the girl’s elbow with his palm. later this video was spread as “Micky beating up a fangirl” This video can be found on youtube in many angles)
-copying the house keys to DBSK’s home
-Changmin’s finger was broken once because of a PRIVATE
-the Rock in the Bag Happening (mentioned above)
-Identity theft with the member’s Family Social Security numbers
-Call member’s family after finding their phone numbers
-Block service of TVXQ’s cellphones and check the call list to make sure who’s a girl or not
-Breaking into TVXQ’s house and look for their legal stamp in order to forge marriage papers
-Put in (their own) underwear into member’s bags
-Stealing member’s possession
They think it’s normal and common to just freely go to and from the member’s house
More below
TV Show
Jaejoong (or Yoochun):
Once a member was sleeping and in the middle of the night, the sensor lights were flicking on and off, when the members checked, there was a girl standing there alone in their house
WHEN YOU SEE IT YOU’LL SHIT BRICKS
can’t see?
look behind in the window
++) WHEN U SEE U SHIT BRIX 2
(from JYJ COO DVD)
++) I couldn’t find the picture for this but I got it, so I’m adding.
Jaejoong sleeping in a Korean SPA
(the Korean spa is divided into sections, and there is a combined entertainment floor.)
WAIT THIS IS A MAN-ONLY SAUNA
A PRIVATE took this picture. somehow.
QUOTES
Hero – “For instance my cellphone just one day is randomly blocked, or lost. They print out the call list and they call my friends, to check if they are girls or not.”
Xiah – “Apparently you can hack into Hardwares. They know what I did, what music I heard through the internet.”
++) I don’t want to make this post too long but I’m adding just this one
From Twitter
Translation:
You know how Hero did a movie with Han HyoJu? I talked to the stage director for that movie.
That director has a small academy that he does and once he said he was going to take the academy kids to see the movie sets for class. So some fans (PRIVATES)….what….they paid $2000 to $3000 just to apply to the academy. After that when they went to visit, Jaejoong was so scared and disturbed that he ran out of the waiting place where all the other celebrities were, and he got really pale, panting like crazy saying that “I know them.”
This is a part of a news report about PRIVATES
“Graphic Designer Hyekyung Jin (27) has also been a TVXQ PRIVATE for 2 years. She said she has ‘worked’ even harder than those Chinese and Korean fans who moved into the villa right next to the Samsung-dong (area) A Apartment where TVXQ lives together. She says ‘as I worked as a PRIVATE I meet them a lot, you can tell they are really rich.’
There are even Japanese fans who moved to Seoul and stalk them. SM entertainment PR Kim mentioned that ‘there are fans who come like they’re a part of this company. They wait all day. They vary from the students who came for education during break, and ‘gold misses’ in their 30s.’
College student Heeyoung Jung (22) has been a Xiah PRIVATE for 6 months. ‘PRIVATES don’t really take care in the official schedules,’ she said, ‘after class I go right to their (TVXQ) house; I stayed until dawn.’
Eun Ju Hong (29) who works in a department store recently bought a new car in order to work as a PRIVATE more efficiently. Until now she had used a call-van, but she reached a conclusion to buy a new car rather than to pay from $15 to $30 an hour.”
A news reporter who knew about these TVXQ PRIVATES once said,
“It’s a wonder how TVXQ doesn’t go insane.”
There are so much that aren’t written in this post, but the happenings that are listed here were the big ones that actually gained some attention.
Ever since their debut, TVXQ has been subject to these PRIVATES for at least 9 years. Except for their homes and company grounds that they can’t come in, PRIVATES are everywhere. They are STILL a problem, even now.
Can’t you just sue them? It just doesn’t work that way. They’ve been stalked for 9 years straight; who can compensate for this loss of privacy?
etc.
in the comments of this post.
a personal account of a non-fan
“답답해서 적어요 답답하네요 이아이들 이렇게되기전에 숙소앞에 팬들에게 말도걸어주고 웃어주고 먼저 손내밀고 인사해주는 그냥 장난좋아하는 남자아이들 이엿어요 택시타고따라다니는거 …(shortened)… 제가 아는 이들의 모습은 절대 그냥 따라다녓다고 저럴 애들의 모습이 아닌데.. 잠시 핸드폰으로 판들어왔다가 답답해서 올립니다 제 생각엔 지금도 저 사생이라는 범죄자 아이들은…. 오히려 이런 이슈가 된걸 즐겁게 생각할 것 같네요”
“I am currently so angry and lost. Before they became like this they were the kind of kids who use to strike a conversation, hold out a hand to even the fans in front of their houses. They said hello and..they were just kids who liked to joke around like average guys. They never liked Taxis that followed them but who would have? But they were still worried of those PRIVATES and they use to worry them and ask them to go home because it’s dangerous. I’m not a fan…I can’t say the details but the kids that I saw..were like that. Somehow I got to know them. I helped Yoochun’s brother and mother once without knowing who they were, and Yoochun came to say thank you, and just for some reason I kept running into him in random places. Then, if he saw the fans on the Taxi pass by, the manager use to go and gently scold them not to do such dangerous things. And if the fans don’t follow anymore, the members were like “good girl. good girl” and they waved their hands goodbye. After this became an issue I saw the video and heard the recordings and it tore my heart. Jaejoong really loves his fans, you would know if you are a fan, right? Although he might look a little cold, even when fans bothered his mother’s store with prank calls, he just smiled and that was all. He seemed drunk in that recording. If someone needs to be punished, it’s these PRIVATES who are criminals, and JYJ. This is not a shield. But all I am saying is that, understand the immense pain that is behind everything. I understand because I knew them at least a little bit, so I pity them. But I saw a lot of people thinking along the same lines. Do you think they wouldn’t have tried all sorts of stuff during this long time? ….Just how far….just how far had these people gone to make Jaejoong lift his hand. I know violence is wrong, but I understand, and that’s what makes me sad. That each other makes each other. Who made these kids like this…those frivolous kids who use to hold out hands for the PRIVATES in front of their homes….why they became like this….The kids I know aren’t the kind of people to do those stuff just because fans were following them…In my personal opinion, these PRIVATES are probably enjoying this attention, even now.
**TVXQ still has an average 150 PRIVATES following them around
ETC 2.
이번 사건 입장바꿔 생각해보기.txt
lets think of this backwards.txt
9년~10년 동안 쫓아다니는 이름모를 남자가있음
there is a anonymous man following you around for 9-10 years
이 남자가 나한테 자기 정액묻은 팬티를 보내고
This guy sends me his underwear with his semen
내가 자고있는데 우리집 들어와서 내 얼굴 쓰담쓰담하고 볼에 뽀뽀도 함
He breaks into my house and feels my face and kisses me while I sleep
남자친구도 못만남 얼마안가면 그 남자가 무서워서 헤어지자고 그럼
I don’t have a boyfriend cuz every one of them gets scared the shit out of
내 친구가 나한테 만나자고 문자보내면 내친구한테 “넌 누군데 우리 ㅇㅇ이 불러내?”
When my friend texts me saying “when do we hang out?” He calls my friend asking “Who are you and why are you calling out ____?”
이런 보복 문자가 친구들한테 감 참다못해 핸드폰을 바꿨음 ” 핸드폰 번호 바꾸셨네요?ㅎ” 하고
I can’t take this anymore so I change my cell phone number. I get a text message. “you changed your number :)”
문자가와 내가 차를 몰고 친구만날려고 나갔음
I went out to hang out with friends
근데 남자가 택시타고 따라와서 일부로 내차를 박음 죽을뻔한적도있음
but the guy followed me on a Taxi and purposely crashes my car. I almost died.
차에서 내려 화를냈는데 웃고있는 남자 얼굴만 보임 그 남자는 내 집에들어와 속옷도 가져감
I tried being angry after getting out of the car, but all I see is the man smirking. He goes through my closet and takes my underwear
그리고 나 없을때 내집들어와서 내집 사진 찍어서 보냄 부모님 댁에 갈려는데 그 남자도 어김없이 따라옴
And when I’m not home he breaks in and takes pictures of my house and sends me. I go to my parent’s house, he follows.
어쩌다 해외출장을 가는데 해외까지 따라옴 그 남자는 내폰을 복사해서 감시함 사이트를 가입하려고 하면
I somehow go on a business trip out of the country. This man follows. He copied my phone and is constantly watching. If I try to become a member on a website, 이미 다 가입되어있음
I’m already a member
그남자는 지나가는 나를 보면 싸대기를 때리기도함 그리고 지나가는 내 가슴도 만지고 소중이 터치도함
This man just slaps me in the face for no reason when I walk on the streets. He also gropes on my breasts and touches my private space.
이 생활이 9년간 지속됨
This goes on for 9 years
그리고 내가 술한잔 먹고나왔는데 그 남자가 그앞에 나를 빤히 보고있다면?
So I had a drink. And I walk out and the guy is staring at me.
신고도 여러번했지만 초범이라 풀려나고 경찰에선 크게 신경 안씀 니가 좋아서 그랬다함.
I already called the police, but it’s his “first offense” so the police don’t really care. They say he did it because he loved me.
The conclusion of this Post is not to avert the clear offense that Jaejoong inflicted. That, clearly, was a mistake. Violence is not something that should be excusable under circumstances. However, these circumstances in turn, can show REASONS. We are human. Before we are a woman or a fan or a Korean or a foreigner, WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. Judge for yourself if what happened now, or actually, what happened back in 2009 recorded in that mp3 file, is really such an issue. As a Korean Cassiopeia who translated this and had to go through numerous posts to gather data, I feel sick after reading this more than three times. There are SO MUCH MORE. I just couldn’t get myself to translate it all. My plea is, know who you are a fan of. Because he is not what the Media criticized him to be. Above all, he is, like us, a human being.
++)addition of information: currently there are about 800,000 official Cassiopeias in Korea. They are the “Official members” who bothered to go on the website and go through the strenuous “level test.” There are approximately 300,000 Official Bigeast Fans (Japanese fansite). These people are those who PAID to become fans. This kind of gives you an idea of how wide the TVXQ fanbase is. Amongst these people, there are those who are like the heartless morons up there. Currently, the Cassiopeia fanbase DOES NOT regard the PRIVATES as an official fan; exactly why they are not called PRIVATE fans. They are just PRIVATES. (morons, in my opinion)
+++) I didn’t know this, but apparently PRIVATES weren’t as reprimanded here(US) as in Korea. Some websites just use their postings and pictures…In most Korean DBSK fansites, it is officially BANNED to post ANY information/picture/video from a PRIVATE source. (even though the media doesn’t agree). I hope this would change things in the International Fandom about…these sources.
++) some people apparently cannot trust the info on this document (despite the painstakingly investigated pictures and videos and quotes and testimonies and documentary sources). All I can tell you is that this information has been known by the Korean fans for a long longggg amount of time…probably for the 9 years that this has happened. Official fans have tried in some ways to prevent these PRIVATES but since PRIVATES aren’t a set group of people, there’s really no way for a third person to get involved. It’s just that before this there was no reason for this topic to be mentioned in the International Fandom. The Official Cassiopeias (mostly from the Daum Cafe: Yuaerubi) periodically try to educate the younger fans so that they would not become PRIVATES, with the posting above that was translated.
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I just want to say,
Kim Jae Joong, Park Yoo Chun and Kim Jun Su are humans too.
They can cry, they can get angry and yes they can bled too.
For goodness sake, those idiots sasaengs leave JYJ alone!!!
Changmin and Yunho as well. All 5 were harrassed. Let’s keep that in perspective as well. I remember a video of Changmin where he slapped the camera (not the person) and I couldn’t blame him for reacting that way. The jackass posted the video saying “please don’t judge Changmin-oppa for his actions”. I would have slapped that bitch into next Tuesday. Throwing rocks at him? These people are too much. Making them cry.
These are human beings not carnival side shows for all the town to watch. I feel bad because they just can’t seem to catch a break and this was horribly painful to read. ESPECIALLY Jaejoong’s parts. Asking GD if he also had “privates” cars and GD replying that he had never heard of that. YG entertainment does far more to protect their idols than cheap-shit SME ever could. Crying to his mom that the sasaengs won’t leave him alone. I don’t judge JYJ. Not one bit.
Yeah. I remember Minnie was the easier target. He was the one who was always getting attacked publicly. And you can’t really do anything to these girls because they come in crowds and dissappear right after. And you can’t sue the whole crowd.
not easier target both Changmin and Jaejoong are most wanted targets . each of them felt slaps across their faces and their private parts groped. that’s just the average level things sasaeng do.
If I am already tired just by reading all the information, I can imagine how exhausted our boys with all those uncontrollable crazies.
I think it is useless to wish for them to be a bit reasonable and to respect their idols more for nothing will get them to their senses unless SK’s authorities do something about it.
There must be a law that can put them all behind bars for harassing and abusing idols. How can SK do not have anything better than warning youngsters? It is unbelievable!
i saw a video where minnie was hit by a bag since he was the last one in line
his brother couldn’t help but look at him worriedly :-C
if i was there and i saw someone do that to my favorite idol and i saw them cry, id go over there and smack the heck out of that fan and ask the idol if they were okay. ppl are just so rude these days >.>
so sick those ”privates!!!”
My honest reflection after reading the typescript?…Jaejoong and the rest of TVXQ5’s reactions were NORMAL given their ABNORMAL situation!!!
Yes the use of violence can not be justified, but everyone needs to look at it in the whole context of the situation, not merely the violent reactions of drunk Jae and the rest of TVXQ
These hardworking gorgeous TVXQ were severely violated and tortured, not ONLY by their agency back then (SM), but also by these sick and very dysfunctional privates. So what can we expect???
Put ourselves in TVXQ’s situation, we would definitely become wacko and sociopath right?
But my bigger question is, why release all these just now? Why spotlight on this past incident just now? Is there someone behind this propaganda against JYJ? Perhaps the one responsible held this information before while JYJ were their wards, so they had to safe keep these, but now that JYJ are soaring up high, on their on, outside their dominion, this SoMeone released these info to malign JYJ.
First was Yoochun, now it’s Jaejoong, so who’s next????
My love and respect for JYJ grows deeper and deeper even more…not an ounce was gone because of this past issue.
T_______T I never knew the saseng situation was THAT serious. POOR BOYS ;'( and they don’t often complain…as a fan for 4 years I feel really really sad for them yet I can’t do anything to help them ._,
STUPID AKSJHDALUHFKBVJUEA PRIVATES GET A LIFE AND GET LOST. LEAVE THEM ALONEEEEE.
I feel so tired reading this ….I hope CJES will soon make a press statement to clear this issue.
Violence is not acceptable in any circumstances but we as a human being when force to the extreme then we have to do whatever we have to do to guard our sanity.
This still does not change my love and support towards JYJ and Jae. Still faithful.
For those who FAIL to know who is the victim and who is the abuser? Slap your own mouths!
Others may not agree (probably a lot of you won’t agree) but I think anyone, JYJ….whomever, who has to deal with this kind of insanity is fully justified in resorting to violence…verbal or otherwise.
Creatures like *privates* have ZERO regard for the law….and clearly the Law does not consider them or their behavior worth prosecuting….which is BIZARRE beyond belief.
ANY person who is stalked in this manner, with no legal recourse, should be allowed to handle it in ANY way they choose.
Myself – I’d carry a taser ~ and YES I’d use it.
Privates are criminals and should HAVE TO FEEL the full impact of their actions.
Anyone who wishes to reply, “But Sally, they’re mostly teens and violence is not the answer.” Please don’t bother, privates choose their actions knowing the impact it has on the stalkee…..I have nothing but loathing for them.
I agree especially when the authorities don’t help and treat these socially deranged idiots as if they were just overly-enthusiastic fans. Or worse. Fearing them because ~some (not all) happen to be underage.
Also what is this?: “Violence is not acceptable and is inexcusable in any kind of situation, but in this case, one needs to understand the reasons behind this seemingly appalling act, and WHY this happened.”
….what?….If violence is NEVER acceptable then it doesn’t matter why it happened because the person will be judged the same for “resorting” to violence. If people are going to explain why Jaejoong and Yoochun lashed out then there also has to be human understanding for a person pushed to their limits. The “but” also annoys me because it makes it sound as if the author is making an “exception” for JYJ. Please. JYJ don’t need other people to make them into “exceptions”. This stupid double standard is far more than JYJ’s lamentable situation. It is a social problem in South Korea and JYJ/TVXQ was just one of the many symptoms.
This happens to other S.Korean artists too (SNSD is another example; read about the harrassment those girls have to put up with as well) and SME knows about this, the members all talked about this harrassment on TV (LIVE, NATIONAL TV!!!), fans knew about it as well so what the hell are people going on about? This is so stupid.
I agree with u! U need to protect youself.
It’s very very sad that some ppl blame not the ones need to blame. Unfortunately, for some ppl this thing is something they only understand when it happens to them. It’s hard to explain it to them.
sorry but i have strong wish to kick PRIVATES very hard myself and not only that….oh why there’s no law?!! r we really living in time when human rights are protected?!
I am totally with you and think the exact same thing!!! And my avatar pic for once fit my mood regarding this matter….as you’ve said “I have nothing but loathing for them.”
My cats knows better than to stalk people/animals for no good reason.
Really, people who have less sense than animals should be forced to wear a leash.
@Sally_b I totally 100% agree with everything you have said. I said from the first day I read about this stupid issue that I feel know sympathy for what happens to Sasaeng fans. I feel they get what they deserve. I think it is horrible that a person would stalk anyone 24/7 and feel that they have every right to do so. I feel sick to my stomach after reading about some of the horrible things sasaeng fans have done. Everyone deserves to have a private life away from their job. No one has the right to stalk a person.
bless you sister, you took the words right out of my mouth!
it’s time this nonsense stops before something happens to any idol
@sally_b
hi completely agree with you sally_b, if i were in JYJ’s situation back then, i would perhaps even do worst than jaejoong. As i stated earlier, JYJ/TVXQ5’s reactions in that very ABNORMAL and sickening situation was NORMAL!
@sally_b
Hell yeah to everything you wrote. Esp the taser.
Reading this post was nauseating & horrifying, & if it turns out that it was Jaejoong going off like that – who can blame him? Not me certainly.
@sally_b
You are right on this “privates” view.
This is not about violence.
It’s really about “You ask for it” in my book of manners.
I’m with you. I will carry a taser for my safety when it comes to sasaeng.
Love this phrase~~ from you
“Privates are criminals and should HAVE TO FEEL the full impact of their actions. “
The law should put those saseang’s on a leash.
Oh my! I suddenly remember a story from a neighbor’s grandparents.
During WW2, what the Japanese did to stop thieves was they cut off one knot of a finger on the thief ‘s right hand for each time he or she got caught. So everyone would be able to recognize the thief. That was how it got done to stop the crime in their village.
It worked back then, I bet it can and will work again to stop those demented saseang.
The community will become a better place when the minors learn their actions have consequences.
The world also becomes a better place when an adult like this one from SME’s LSM pays for his crime. This will set a role model for anyone who dares to think about corruption with power and money. LSM is a thief who stole the young people ‘s dream to make himself rich by robbing those young kids’s labors and their hard work from H.O.T , G.O.D, Shinhwa, the Grace, to JYJ. What a shameful LSM or PSM( KBS2 version)
After reading just the transcription of what Jaejoong said I no longer felt any sympathy towards the sasaeng.
You can see the pure desperation and hopelessness:
Anywhere I go someone follows
anywhere I go someone calls me
Anywhere i go someone calls me and they’re like
where are you…you’re there right? always living and running away in this anxiety
I have no freedom
do I have to go hide for the rest of my life?
As a singer could I ever get a girlfiend? for real? huh? do i have to check your blogs in hours and minute units when I move?
They provoke them, then they call the police:
after this fucking PRIVATE bitches will probably call on the police….you guys will call the police.
fucking fun following me around. If i hit you guys on the head once, then you guys call on the police saying that you can’t go home again ‘cause they’re swollen.
Bitches when i go around all day you’ll follow me and what, you guy’s call the police because you can’t go home?
Sasaeng provoke them all day, they are followed and harassed and once they snap, they become the criminal. The sasaeng goes and sleeps at home, rest and get energy to follow them around for another day, when the boy can’t even rest at home.
All I see is someone who is desperate beyond his control. He is facing the person (one of the thousand of sasaengs) who have turn his life into a living hell. He is in front of a criminal in the middle of his constant harassment.
And why would I feel sympathy for the sasaeng? Because she is a girl? That’s it right? Is the only reason… you know what I call that? Sexism.
If it was me, a girl, who hits a male who has done the same, I would be called “fierce” and get a medal for knowing how to defend myself.
I’m sorry for Jaejoong, yoochun and Junsu who have to deal with it. It seems like there is close to nothing they can do about it.
And I sorry for the mental state of the sasaeng, what a twisted mind they must have to do all they do.
The whole calling-the-police-thing is what really gets to me. They go and deliberately attack (physically, verbally, mentally) these young men who don’t know them and have never done anything to them and when they retaliate then they have the nerve to call the police so as to make themselves look like victims. They definitely plan this in advance so I can’t understand people who take their side and condemn JYJ or do their whole “houlier-than-thou-two-wrongs-don’t-make-a-right” routine.
And you definitely hit the hammer about the gender politics in this. If DBSK were females and slapped those sasaeng into next week people would be applauding them and rightly so because that is just ridiculous to be expected to tolerate this behavior with no police or judge to help you. But because they are men it is “too much” to yell or slap these ugly hyenas away. People are so two-faced.
Also how is it that the police and those so busy judging JYJ don’t take into account that sasaengs endanger the lives of others as well as their own? They try to cause car accidents so that the members notice them!!!! Can you believe that?! What if they hit an innocent pedestrian on the streets? They threw rocks at Changmin. One of them stalked Yunho and was so busy staring at him that she didn’t notice a car coming until he saved her (with the hugest frown on his face btw). Now they deliberately put themselves in harms’ way so that one of them can “save” them. They chase Jaejoong in taxis all over the city and pay drivers (and these drivers are also to blame) to go faster to catch up with him. What about that huh? But no! It is far easier for these people to talk out of their asses instead of thinking for once.
I’ve read this in the morning…
Just because they’re idols doesn’t means they have no rights to get angry. Idols are human too.
like i said before..putting others in danger for the sake of your own obsession? its ridiculous..and i disapprove that
they’re giving warning and advice all this while yet the sasaeng fans never bother to listen..
who is the one to blame? police did not take anyone action..no one will..so things will never end..never..
you think scolding a fan is easy when they know the consequences of doing so..
they might get criticize..they might put themselves in danger(sasaengs are crazy after all)
lastly, since its only audio..and no one really know the reason behind the audio..i hope people stop making assumption
i know jaejoong..i’ve been supporting him for years..i know who he is..
he’s always good to fans..many people know this..its already a fact..so please..stop all this shit..JYJ had enough!!!
I am speechless…
Oh God…. I don’t even know what to say… 😦
Can someone give them a special phone so that their phone wouldn’t get hacked? Or even special computer?
It breaks my heart that they are in so much pressure. Constant stalking, no privacy, gosh… :((
However, amidst all of these crazy things, they still are so kind, still so respectful, still being a great artist that they are. One thing for sure, this news only make me respect them even more.
They deserve every adoration, every praise, every cent of what they have now… I’m so very proud of them… 🙂
There isn’t much they can do about the phones or their online accounts. This is the ONLY thing I believe Yunho didn’t lie about in the interview. He couldn’t be contacted because people found his number and kept making prank calls after the DBSK break-up. It happens all the time. They used to call their dorm and some even managed to break in. These people’s behavior is no joke.
What do you mean the only thing he didn’t lie about? I think both sides lie, I mean it’s not like the five of them can just dish out the dirt on each other, they didn’t break-up because of a fight between five members, it was a more like a disagreement of their morals, unfortunately jyj and homins morals didn’t match up with each other, but nothing we can do about that.
Either way, after reading this, I don’t even feel slightly bad for saesangs, not at all, I can’t even get mad at any of them not yoochun, not yunho, not junsu, not changmin, and not jaejoong, because if I were them I would have cracked WAAAAY long ago. That’s for sure. I’m surprised it wasn’t sooner. I don’t think these are recent though are they? I think they a while back? but if not, I’m happy that Jaejoong is keeping up on news with the other two.
Wow, i got so freaked out reading this (thanks for sharing)
But as a fan from overseas i always wonder ‘how lucky would it be to actually meet the guys’ or ‘i want to see him in person’ etc etc, but honestly just by reading some news about what the guys are doing, seeing some new pictures, dramas etc on jyj3 and buying their music makes me satisfied and i think that’s enough…stalking them to the ends of the world no way proves that these are fans!….but these Privates are just not right in the head.
Its hurts to read about this not just for JYJ but the fact that their family members are also being targeted, its disgusting.
Nevertheless, i still continue to love the guys and hope for their well being, physically and mentally.
if they came to where you lived and you happen to see them and went to say hi, spoke a bit and went on with your business they wouldn’t have a problem. they understand that fans will want to talk to them and such, its just when it goes overboard and people are stalking them.
Yh I completely understand what your saying, of course if they were visiting my city then i would love to meet them and it all goes without saying that if we (true fans) treat them with respect then of course they will oblige…. Unlike those ‘privates’ ugh I hate that word now.
But yh wat u said is true ( I didn’t mean anything otherwise , I hope it didn’t seem that way 🙂
Oh no i understand what you’re saying. I just didn’t want it to be like those “privates” ruined it for their sane fans. Don’t let them ruin it for you. If you see them greet them with a warm smile, give them a gift if you want, if you speak korean or japanese have a small conversation. And then be about your business. You didn’t say anything wrong 🙂
I agree, after reading this, I wouldn’t want to be in any situation where I would have a possibility of being mixed up with those psycho fans! Perhaps a smile and a wave would suffice. 🙂 Pretty disgusting behavior. I don’t understand how there are so many of them. Is it a mob mentality thing? Or is there that many wack-jobs in the world? None of my friends would ever do that, even when we were teenagers. We might have followed a bit after a concert in our crappy car before we got bored with it, but hitting them? Hacking their phone? Breaking into their house?!?!?! SENDING THEM MENSTRUAL BLOOD?!?!?! That’s crazy!! Not to mention…we had jobs, and school, and places we needed to be…you know…a life…!!!
this is sooo sickening!!! these psychos should be locked up to where they belong!! i actually understand the boys, bec had i been in the same situation, being harassed day in and day out for how many years, i’ll also go berserk that’s for sure. they might be public figures but that doesn’t mean they’re public property…poor babies 😦 my heart goes out to them…SoMeone never lets up on their underhanded attacks….shame on you!!
gosh just how mean can this world go. i’m literally crying right now. people are just interested in gossip they don’t care about the reason.they have suffered for 9 years come on damn 9 years and there are more years to come. feel so helpless towards the 5. if i were in there place i most probably would be in a mental asylum.
when say those pics of there house i was like wth!! those people are crazy and seriously if you say you pity those sasaeng god you should go to a hospital and get yourself checked.
I think I would be in minority here, but I still don’t think it’s a good idea to post audio translations… we don’t know for sure if this audio is not edited, and the things poor JJ says could be weapons for anti-fans against him…. It just my opinion…. :(((( I really hope that I am wrong…
this audio may be true or not, has been circulating already…
that’s why JYJ3 posted this here so that we who hardly goes to different sites will also be informed. Others may not like the use of profanity… but one should see the whole story first, know why he said those stuffs, what’s the reason behind the outburst. Other non fans may not like this, but we as a fan should be more considerate and understanding of the situation. and try to explain to other people who aren’t informed about it and try to change their beliefs against JYJ. Because such things as this doesn’t happen to JYJ alone but other artists too. Too bad JYJ has the largest number of sasaeng.
Reading this makes me want to support JYJ even more! My heart goes out to all three members. Those PRIVATES shall be subjected to punishment, even if the law isn’t capable of it, judgment day will come even in the afterlife!
This article serves as a wake-up call for JYJ fans who think they are ‘fans’ by stalking the members’ daily activities. Everyone deserves the right to privacy, you know!
Lastly, a million thanks Cecilia for all the translations! JYJ fighting!!
Omg,, i`m crying while reading this T T
speechless..really!!
hey Sasaeng fans..GET A LIFE!!! are you really don’t have anything to do rather than stalking them?
gosh…it makes me so mad!!!!
if you want to follow them do it humanly, they’re not robot you know!! gaarrrrhhhh it makes me want to punch those sasaeng one by one if i can!
hope nothing bad happen to our boys after this kind of news (i mean not this one, but the bad one such as dispatch ) -____-
they surely need some space…my poor boys T______________T
Crying my heart out TT___TT
just speechless, this is insane! really.. TT____TT
Will spread this right away!
know this since 5tvxq time coz all of em keep on complaining bout this..
my poor babies…
how much they try to hold on, when they’re drunk they can let it out.
i never blame yc; bout the incident of airport camera, phone in cafe, latest one that came out [dont even now why now coz it’s out few years ago]… coz i noe this is what he can do as a human.
same as jae.
hit if u want. coz u already talk to them nicely, they still dont get it. moron.
others in others web that said the boys need to go anger management programme, idgafc coz the boys have been keeping their anger like forever
it amazing they try to please the fans even though morons like this exist
i am all supporting u boys!
O__O I’m burning inside!!!!!!! my tears can’t stop just God Bless them T__T
and PRIVATES MAY YOU BURN IN HELL
Those ppl is sick…they should burn in hell
+1
I am sick reading this…….what I worry is not the incident comes to public and they got criticise, it will be over in a few days.
What I feel sad is that the sasaeng behavior will never end, and there seems no way out at all! JYJ will continue suffer from sasaeng fans behaviour…….it’s a miracle they are still so nice and respectful to fans (though I know fans and sasaeng are 2 different groups, but somehow one will be scared right?)
if I have the chance to meet them in private, I will not take picture, they have enough cameras in their whole life
omg……. o.O I was never a fan during their TVXQ days but I already heard that they have the craziest fans.. to the extend of intruding into their houses… phones…. but after reading this… omg…. this is so sick….so sick…..
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Read about this people! It explained why joongie was so angry at the fan. Please please, though we all love all of the tvxq members, do remind that they are humans too! Fighting!!
I feel bad for them. As someone mentioned, what if this had been a female idol group and these were male fans? No one would be making a big deal out of it. I would have done much worse than Jaejoong, probably would have been locked up for assault. Those girls are sick and need mental help. And I also read somewhere that a “guy should NEVER hit a girl.” I mentioned this in another post but it needs to be reiterated: I am studying to be a lawyer and we talked about a case where this guy was being abused by his wife (not petty slapping, but like hitting him with anything that was hard like pans, pots, broom handles, etc.) and he hit her back to defend himself, to keep her from hitting him on the head with a pan, and called the police and HE got locked up. He never called the police again, and the next time the police was called to their house, he was being taken out in a body bag. It’s because of the “guys should never hit girls, under any circumstances” that he died. He could have been saved had someone listened to him. This is actually more common than people think. I know that the idols and saesang fans aren’t to this extent, but I feel that people should stop saying “guys should never hit girls under any circumstances” because there are some circumstances where he has to defend himself. I don’t condone abuse, but there are certain circumstances where a guy has to defend himself. Again, these girls are STALKERS and I wish people would stop saying their “juveniles” and “underage.” That’s what juvenile detention centers are for. Does Korea have those? If not, they need them. This whole thing just makes me sick, because had these girls been in America, they have more than enough evidence to convict them of invasion of privacy, stalking, abuse, and probably more. I really hope these girls get mental help. I hope I didn’t offend anyone here, but I’m very sensitive to the double standards in law and thinks there needs to be something done about it.
Exactly! It doesn’t matter if the perpetrator is male or female. It is still harrassment. PERIOD. In fact, in the bullying culture of Japan and S.Korea the people make a special note of the women. It is they who do the worst bullying. FAR worse than the male fist fights. Males are more straight-foward in this sense; If they don’t like someone then they’ll make it known and beat the victim around. Sometimes alone, sometimes with friends. Female bullies on the other hand don’t stop at physical violence. They also mentally scar their victims.
Many of the most “ingenious” tactics for shaking someone down come from the women not the men. Shaving a victim’s hair off (female vanity), locking a person in a closet, socially isolating them (so they feel they have no one to turn to) or befriending them only to stab them in the back or to humiliate them publically. This is more of the female bully territory.
I sometimes think that while their fame has in some ways cursed them it has also saved them. Things have not gotten worse because they are famous. If sasaengs went beyond the pale then 1. it will be publically known and 2. they will therefore not be able to escape legal action. I shudder to think how much worse it would be if the boys weren’t famous and were just average, run of the mill guys.
OMG!! privates, are you insane or are you inhuman? please stop that moron action, they have their life for the God sake.. if you have that much money to love them, spending them wisely for donation as their name, not intruding their personal life like this… i wonder what are you doing for living? are you don’t have life or dream to be pursue?
I read this yesterday. I put on my second twitter account that I was wondering how JYJ does it. How do they continue to smile when all of this happens to them. It made me sad about what JJ said about him being a singer can even have a girlfriend. I saw the video recently where a fan did something to Yoochun recently. I seriously wish I could do something but I know in reality I can’t. All the fans in the world could go to each and everyone of these people and some will not listen. When will this end? Over protective, possessive, and selfish. That’s what these people are. I hope fans learn from reading this and realize Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu are HUMANS. I’m going to pray for the girl who actually gets with one of the members. Because if these fans find out..I am scared of what they will do.
JYJ stay strong. I’ll always be your fan from afar. Mucho Amor!
i’m crying..really sad.. how could they, THE PRIVATES..
poor JAEJOONG, poor YOOCHUN, poor JUNSU…
They faced the mess done by PRIVATE for 9 years.. without complaint,,
tiil now they still facing PRIVATES.. really hate PRIVATES
JYJ need their own space..poor them
i will still keep on supporting you JYJ!
fighting!!
God bless! ❤
I feel sick after reading this. I wanna puke
despicable sasengans!
my heart is torn T______T
sasaeng fans is the lowest person in the world..I don’t find it enjoyable to watch other person suffering because of their own stupid act. even it useless that they have brain, but doesn’t know how to use it properly..we should call sasaengfan as criminal. They are so disgusting even disgust than sm!
I don’t believe dispatch much because all they can do is to give wrong information like the last time JYJ concert in Germany
Come on dispatch you just wanna sell cheap news to get big buck !!!
You know computer, Photoshop now can do anything , just cut and add some trash that make to the news, poor k show biz
I think JYJ’s so brave because they can survive under the evil invisible hand during 7,8 years and now in the dark and unfair K Ent!!!
Greedy people dont judge JYJ’s talents, all they can do is to know how to make JYJ suffering by posting unreal facts to exchange $
I saw this kind of survivals is mostly existing in hollywood but now everywhere is
It is no doubt why there’re so many Korean artists wanna suicide because of this kind of world existing
I think this type of news stills appear over again and again as long as JYJ’s popularity is everywhere
I don’t think SM let JYJ go off easily after all jyj’s successes
Before that SM dont think JYJ’ll survive after leaving them but they can’t imagine JYJ can survive w/o them and receive a lot of love from everyone
SM can’t control drama and CF Ents so there’s nothing much they can do
Therefore only way can control JYJ’s sucesss is to interfere their private life by using this type of trick
2012 is the year to bring JYJ’s new sucesss but also the year is to make them suffering a lot
I think all JYJers can do now is believing in JYJ and praying for JYJ passing over those hardships and continuing to persue their dream
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In the States if you use someone else’ Social Security # it is called Identity Theft which could land you in jail. Why is there no laws or legislation in place in Korea? especially Stalking laws, invasion of privacy, etc. Why are these people allowed to camp outside these celebrities homes. I call them celebrities because the word “Idol” goes hand and hand with “worship”. I love JYJ, especially their music, but I don’t worship them. Something should be done about this behavior toward Korean celebrities. Or something fatal or bad might happen one day.
It brought tears to my eyes….whenever you see idols, you think “they live such a beautiful life surrounded by love” and I bet every single one of us dreamed about being an idol at least one time in our lives. You think that even if it might be bothersome to have ppl following you all the time, there are the other benefits you get for being an idol that compensate for the “small” issues. Bet let me ask you this…what in the world could compensate for freedom? It’s like being paralyzed in paradise! You’re there, but you can’t touch or feel anything! It’s no use to have everything if you can’t enjoy that “everything”! So after reading this, I know for sure I will never ever desire to be an idol again. I feel sorry for JYJ, I love them from the bottom of my heart, but if one day, they’ll decide to quit everything, I will not blame them! Wanting to live a normal life it’s a wish I would also have if I were one of them, and they are the most admirable for not having quit yet. That’s the best love proof we, FANS, can ever get!
And with my last drops of energy…I say…JYJ…hwaiting…!
I agree and it is really sad because it shouldn’t have to be this way. These kinds of people; sasaengs, antis, fake fans etc. are just mentally deranged and immature people who ruin the experience for the rest of us but especially for the idols themselves. This is their livelihood. Us fans can take a break but they can’t. I just don’t understand why nothing is being done about this. Is it a very low priority? Do people think these freaks are just “kids”? Do they think it will get better with time? Do they think that idols are spoiled and should take this harrassment to keep them grounded? That they have money and fame (and some not even that) so they should just suck it up? This is very disturbing.
JYJ FIGHTING!
it’s just simply insane… those privates are mentally unstable =*=
i understand what JJ done is wrong, but those privates are also need to be punished.
OMG.. f****
It was horrible!! how privates has been doing, c’mon guys give them break , the idol just only human just like the rest of us, the way that privates has been doing isn’t fans but criminal! I really2 feel sorry for DBSK/JYJ or any public figure who has experienced it, i just wish this isn’t stop you guys to make good music for those who really trully your fans,hwaiting!!
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I cry for them …. love JYJ does not mean disturb their personal lives even scares them, support them with naturally … , That reminds me .. when the song jong ki (go yong hwa in SKKS) meet Yoochun, and told “a lot of your fans who make a telephone call I’m & saying ” if you know Yoochun’s telephone number?” …. poor for you guys ..
Yoochun, Jaejong, Junsu …. please stay strong …. still a lot of real fans who love you wholeheartedly ….
JYJ … fighting
oh~ this is the document that inspired me to tweet this to address those people who still think that PRIVATES (sasaeng) are victims of our idols.. in a way that they might understand..
I’ll paste here again (I hope the admins won’t mind 🙂 )
Please read the conclusion as well..
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How would a GIRL feel / react when :
1. a stranger man follows her around for years.
2. this stranger sends her his underwear with his semen.
3. the stranger breaks into her house, feels her face & kisses her while she is asleep.
4. the stranger scare whomever in relationship with her so as when a friend texts her asking to hang out. the stranger calls ther friend asking him who is he and why is he calling her? the result is that she can’t get into a relationship.
5. when she tries to change her cellphone number, she gets a text from the stranger saying “you changed your number ” >> as if saying to her: here I am. I know every move you take and you can’t hide from me.. I’m watching YOU.
6. the stranger follows her around when she goes out and hangs with her friends and crashes her car purposely to pull just her attentionand brag. sometimes causing her injuries and sometimes he dangers her life. and when she looks at him he laughs and smirks back.
7. the stranger goes through her house.. her closet.. stealing her underwears. Takes pictures of her house and sends them back to her to show her he was there and even follows her to her families houses.
8. even when she takes a vacation abroad the stranger follows her.
9. the stranger copies her phone and searches all her logs and even when she tries to register on a website.. she discovers that her social security number is already taken and used to registere by that stranger.
10. the stranger also physically abuses her by slapping her only to have a mark on her face caused by him.. groping her breasts and her private areas while walking in the streets.
11. she reports the police with no use.. the stranger doesn’t abide by the restraining order.. or the stranger either underage or it’s his first offense.. or they (the police) just don’t care as their excuse that the stranger do that because he loves her.
12. this goes on for years.
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cr. >> google document >> ” /document/d/1QXbyYQjPbfXtdcRF4Uh9k-2wx_VUHzfbjV80ZnwsRHg/preview?pli=1″
*altered the structure of sentences taken (without changing the meaning) to suit my question.
If you are interested to SEE the whole truth and get a glimpse of the hell lived daily by those idols (Victims) from the constant abuse of the PRIVATES (strangers stalking them) read the upper documents (contains pics, trans of some of the horrible actions of Privates (sasaengs)
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My Conclusion /opinion:
I think everyone came from different cultures/backgrounds and we all have different perceptions to events..
BUT there are MAIN issues that ALL know IS Wrong and ILLEGAL.
First: SELF-DEFENSE CANNOT be considered as abuse. (same goes to the RE-ACTION to an action of an abuse)
Second: INVADING PRIVACY / TRESPASSING /STEALING is illegal.
Third: SEXUAL HARRASMENT whether FROM male/female TO male/female STILL considered Sexual Harrasment and it is ILLEGAL.
Fourth: causing INJURIES & ENDANGERING someone’s LIFE & SAFETY is illegal.
*taking all the above and even if you are NOT a fan and you don’t know how much specifically those idols LOVES their fans and how much they respect them.. You can not blame the VICTIM that tries to respond to the Main Abuser as a SELF DEFENSE.
** and I really DON’T feel sorry when I say that people who can STILL see the Victim as the Abuser and the Abuser as the Victim…. are as SICK as those PRIVATES /SASAENG.
I rest my case^^
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after read this translation this morning ..
I could not breathe … and I can not stop my tears fall ..
I am very grateful today JJ and her two brothers are still there and still be standing in front of their fans ..
I wish I could wipe their tears
and how I wish I could comfort them ..
but unfortunately I can not ..
I can do from afar is always give my support ..
And pray that it all be over soon and will turn bright and happy for them
Why do I feel like I’m the one going nuts, instead, just by reading this?
I feel so heartbroken I can’t stop crying and go to bed….
God, is this the way you leave the wrongs unpunished and the commoners tortured to insanity?? ……
Holy… If I were JYJ or anyone who was treated like this, i would’ve snapped someone’ neck by now. THIS IS SOOOO DISTRUBING.
SERIOUSLY WHAT IS LIFE? i feel so sorry for the boys. I can understand why they wished they never became celebrities. 😦
I even feel sorry for those three Singers, Exo has the most Privates,now so Tvxq members can rest but not Exo oppa s as they are the rookie group and the new target for them, I was very shocked when I readied about what they did to Super Junior s Hangeng oppa,seriously? Sulferic acid and Baekhyun oppa s older brother s wedding in a mess, I want to say stop your crazy acts.
I’m so fed up with this saseng matter.I’m so worried about Jae because he is the most affected from this bullshit.But what can we really do to help them.I’m so sad because this news is getting spread as fire.Surely this will be a very big damage to their image.
disappinted that we ignore one point: the audio can be composed rather than truly recorded; no one seems to pay attention to this point, including korean fans who understand totally what JJ said; by only an audio, do you feel certain that it’s JJ hitting someone? and if true, who is hit? fan or the driver? Sound cannot provide evidence like pictures and vedios. And also there are fans finding that there are similiar parts in the movie Vacation(when JJ’s role in the movie blackmail a child) and the part in COO (when he calls JIJI);No one is sure that JJ does all these, but we true fans carelessly forget this point and transform the point to those hatred fans. I also feel disappointed at CJES not responding to it even 48 hours have passed. JJ is the biggest victim of this event, but even fans believe he is 100% doing wrong without argument.
I just stress one point: By an audio without pictures, no one can 100% say that it’s JJ hitting saseng fans; we seem not argue to the point. Blaming saseng fans is necessary, but it cannot be an indirect way to say that our JYJ members hit saseng fans, at least only by an audio, we cannot.
i agree with u! I wrote about that too when this case was brought out. To be honest, I immediately thought of why averybody’s so sure that he hit?! I cant get it. there’s no even any proof he HIT a girl!Video?No! Audio? dont kidding me….it’s NOT proof! And if he did that, i repeat “IF” he had a serious reason. Sorry but on his place i think i’d do it even earlier. So yeah i agree with u about “no proof”
this whole saseng thing is so scary…i worry..
URGH!!! Please stop! I think some of you didn’t read the article and you are missing the point of all this. Hitting a girl? That “girl” and really “girls” (bunch of cowards only attack in packs) have done horrible things to JYJ and TVXQ. None of you would hesitate to slap a man if he did to you what these women do to JYJ. Stop with the double-standards. These aren’t innocent fans. These people stalk and harrass the boys constantly! They put innocent people in harm’s way for the sake of their sick and childish obsessions.
Besides, let us assume JYJ return from their S.American tour and there is conclusive proof that one of them did indeed hit one of those hyenas in self-defense. What would you do? Change your tune or try to understand the situation? You don’t know anything for sure so never assume.
I think this might be fake because it was released as soon as JYJ left for S. America and there is no video but I can’t say that 100%. I don’t speak Korean either so that puts me in a disadvantage. I can only wait until CJeS/Monica and JYJ themselves address the alleged scene. All I can do is try to spread the knowledge to non-fans about sasaengs so that people don’t confuse them for innocent fans. The rest is a moot point until JYJ/CJeS speak about this.
oh my…why did u say so T__T…I red all article and i didt say he didt hit or he hit. i said there’s no proof. just some ppl say that he did that 100% (not me) that’s why i said that in such way
i dont have the double- standards. I support him fully on this case coz i know what it’s like being followed even if it’s not 9 years 24/7. even a week is scary.
do we understand each other well? coz i dont understand what awfull i said that u wrote “URGH!!! Please stop!”
english isn’t my first language and it’s not excuse. i just really could put something wrong…
You didn’t catch my meaning. You say we shall not assume something, but actually you are assuming something (JYJ Members hitting sasengs) by only listening to audios, right? What i mean is that we can blame sasengs for they indeed disguesting, but we cannot argue that Oh sasengs are sick and they shall be hit, so JYJ hit sasengs. In that way we admit that JYJ hit sasengs even without they personally say this!! That’s horrible. Now it seems that most fans pay attention to sasengs’ bad behaviour and ignore the evidence that if JYJ hit someone, even the audio is true, we cannot say 100% that they hit sasengs. The beginning of the news on Dispatch said they were together with CJES staff. So there are not only them, there are also other people. I do not say that Oh it is 100% that JYJ don’t hit, but others cannot either say 100% certain. So why we firstly admit this? Fans are fans, but ordinary people they don’t know JYJ, what they feel when reading those reports may like Oh, these artists hit people, although these sasengs so called are annoying.
We can say that sasengs are horrible and annoying, but we cannot use this point to indirect say that JYJ hit sasengs when no one 100% approve this, right? Audio cannot be an enough proof to this, even this audio is certainly processed because JJ’s voice is so clear and voice at first and after 2mins isn’t same. You can listen to those audios again.
Who use double standards? What are double standards? No one has the right and shall represent them to say JYJ hit sasengs. Besides blaming sasengs, I have been waiting Korean fans to analyze the audio first, and CJES at least take actions to deal with this reputation crisis, but wihout any response. Really disappointed and sad about this, CJES is not a qualified agent, I even didn’t see their effort to deal with such a bad issue.
Oh! I didn’t realize I replied to you songginight! It wasn’t a reply to you. I’m sorry.
@OnlyJYJ
It is very easy to prepare for what won’t require any effort. If it is a fake audio then wonderful!!!! But what if it isn’t? Either way I don’t see how Jaejoong is in the wrong. I don’t know if fans have sent their findings to the police but clearly if they did then it hasn’t amounted to much which is the real worry here since it is the police who are the only ones with the sophisticated means to find who these people are, investigate the events and take legal action not the fans. Fans can provide help but they can only go so far. Besides a fan who is fluent in Korean posted this article (and translated the audio) so what is your point?
If this becomes a very serious issue then CJeS will release a statement on behalf of JYJ. CJeS isn’t like SME where they make ridiculous stories up and the netizens quickly find evidence proving them wrong. SME lets their idols hang dry. CJeS will want to speak directly to JYJ, figure everything out and then release a statement. (assuming they do their job right) The fans will be helpful but the real punch will come when these people are finally arrested. Also the Yoochun scandal was only a big deal to international fans not those of Korea.
That is true too, is to easy to create false information and they haev done it before, with yoochun remember?
agree what you say, there is no prove the whole audio is true, and the sound of hitting is stange in the audio….
I THANK GOD THAT FINALLY THIS POST CAME TO JYJ3.. SO MORE AND MORE PEOPLE CAN LEARN ABOUT THE HARASSMENT THE BOYS WERE, AND ARE SUFFERING AND IT WILL CONTINUE IF NOBODY STOP THESE INSANE SASAENGS.
I HAD A GOOD CRY WHILE I WAS READING THIS POST 😦
I feel so much anger and I feel that if these spychos don’t understand that enough is enough in a good way then that’s when you let them know in a bad way. I hope that a law could be made against these, it’s just not fair that celebrities have to leave through these nightmares and nothing is being done to prevent it, very sickening!!!
These bitches are crazy! Seriously what in hell are they thinking? What they do it just DISGUSTING !
I feel awful for our Boys, including all other idols that go through this. I’m a foreigner and reading this makes me support them even more. I really want to see them in person too but going to the extreme is just wrong. If I ever see them here in the USA I’ll just look from afar and give them their space, let them have that feeling of normal.
On a side note I love how Jaejoong mentioned Yunho and Changmin!! AKTF
The good thing that in the USA the law is protecting the privacy of its citizens but sadly in Korea it seems there aren’t any laws!!
I read, that many of the sasaengs fans are minors, so the police can’t do anything about that.
JYJ fighting!!!
Age is just a #.
ckckck…
I… *speechless*
hope everything is clear now…..
Those girls are not fans… they are just poor and fool insane`s. TVXQ (Yoochun, Junsu, Jaejoong, Changmin and Yunho) are just humans, and 9 year of the same shit people exhausted even them. The real and respecful fans like me, will always support you guys, in a sane and honorable way ^^
can’t stop crying~~, really heart breaking if my dearest Jaejoong are forced to become like this….
but please don’t make the translation of the parts what JJ said spread in the web..
1) they may be edited
2)the words quite rude in the translation that will really hurt JJ
Why can´t I, or someone, be a very, very good witch/wizard and make them just disappear? I don’t approve violence but IF Kim Jae Joong really slapped one of them can you really blame him? In his place I think I would have slapped at least one a year. Reading this article I just want to stalk each one of them and them them into vegetables. Because in my opinion that´s what they are: vegetables with no feelings, no decency, no education, no respect for others what so ever, no heart, no nothing.
They (THE PRIVATES) are really unfair because each one of the five of them (TVXQ) always semeed to be very nice and gentle young men.
Admire them and wait for them in, for instance, Airports to get their autograph and exchange a few words, smiles a foto is one thing.
What they do is just going to far.
So I go back to the begging of my post: God give me a pretty good magic wand to make ALL of them disappear.
I don’t like thinking the possibility that money is also the reason behind these crazy PRIVATE’s behavior, as it said above just for example:
– someone sells TVXQ’s phone number and social security number
– those creepy smirk of PRIVATE taxi driver that pissed Jae off..
So, based on my thoughts from these examples only, they are just making profit out of JYJ/TVXQ, they don’t even give a damn care about the idol itself. #sorry for the language#
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Stalkers, of whatever race and nationality, have four things in common:
(1) They have an amazing ability in finding out your most recent contact and whereabouts.
(2) They have an extraordinary stamina. Within months, you will start praying every day that they won’t find or contact you.
(3) They force you to be your worst self for your own self-protection, and then, make you feel guilty about being mean to them.
(4) Last but the most important characteristic of all, they will never take “No” as an answer.
Poor JYJ. Poor TVXQ. How misunderstood you are.
I’ve said so much already but then I read your post.
“3) They force you to be your worst self for your own self-protection, and then, make you feel guilty about being mean to them.” THIS!!!!!
Even some fans do this. On one hand they claim that they understand the situation JYJ/DBSK are going through but then on the other hand they contradict themselves and claim that slapping a girl is wrong. These aren’t nice women, these are deranged people who don’t respect the law or the safety and privacy of others. I guess some fans are dreaming that DBSK have to be the best gentlemen 100% of the time and that they should just smile when sasaengs do their disgusting acts until the poilce feel like investigating. They have tolerated this for years but enough is enough.
Hmm, maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but this is my response to what I’ve interpreted from your words. I’m a believer that when people who are normally nice are forced to do something nasty, they will definitely feel guilty afterwards.
Since we are complicated human beings, our feeling towards people are never clear-cut. You’ll never say things like “I hate this guy, so I will never regret saying harsh words to him.” Whatever you do to other people, you’ll feel the effects too (it could just be the mere thought of having done it to another person that makes you regret). For example, although the sasaeng fans really, really, really were asking for it, I’m also sure that JYJ (and TVXQ) would have regretted their reactive behaviour towards them.
What I meant by “make you feel guilty” is not that the general public vilify you in saying that you did something wrong. What I meant is that you, yourself, will judge it. During those late lonely nights when your mind start reflecting on your own actions, most probably, you’ll come to that conclusion that you regret doing it. Well, anyway, these are only my opinions based on my experience with people.
Poor my Chun…and JJ and Junsu too. TT_____TT
I can feel how much they’s hurt because of what sasaengs do. Living like hell for 9 yrs, thanks Бöϑ they still can smile and love their fans. But I’m glad they are strong, through the bulls**ts rumors and crazy sasaengs, they still can make good masterpieces and stand straight. I’m proud of them. Never feel disappointed become their fan. Just try to be a Ǥ☺☺ϑ fans and support them in positive ways, I hope they will as proud as us having fans like us ^^
i can’t stop crying right now, my heart get so ached more when i thought about the boys feeling
why there are some people who only thinking about their selfishness than other people safety ?
is that really fun to see the boys get hurt and depressed like that ?
is that really more precious than their own future ?
it seem that their really doesn’t mind if they died/lose their own life as long as they can get the boys attention
after i read this, i became more willing to give a big support and love to the boys
i wanna protect the boys but as an international fans, i have a limit to do that
the only things that i can do is give the boys a support through their twitter and C-JES FB,Vimeo and YT
SK Government please make some a rule for protect all of the idols from this craziness thing
the fact that they laugh and smirk and feel happy when they clearly see the boys upset, make me feel like puking and make me think.
don’t they fear if jyj or homin get mentally ill and commit suicide?
or probably if one of the boys killed themselves, these sassaeng would only think “oh,he commit suicide? oh,poor then. but okay, i’ll get other idol to follow”
that. would be sick.
these sassaeng never think that far huh?
That’s exactly how these stalkers would respond in light of a suicide, @yuka sato, an ‘oh well’ and ‘Let’s see who’s next on my idols list!?!’ Can you get any more insane than that? And while I’m on the subject; the parents of these so-called teenagers should have a foot placed firmly in their backsides!
I’d beat them up… I am so pissed and I can’t take this anymore. If I were in Korea…. If I were in Korea I would surely go to them and give them the same treatment…
Same here!
Jaejoong fans please be strong, it is only a audio, why most JJ fans believe it is true
for Yuchun vedio hitting fans, even there is a video, Yuchun fans are strong and brave enough to say it is not Yuchun
Im still strong and forever strong to always support Jaejoong!!
dear,there is no wrong to admit that that the one in video is yoochun (but he’s not hitting the girl, just like mentioned above) and (possibly) jj in the audio and hit the sassaeng (if it indeed proven). the thing is, WHY.
we are all know that our boys will NOT hit someone just for fun. no,they must have reason.
and self protection is not wrong.
that’s what u have to mention to other fans who barely know the detail.
we don’t have to be delusional fans who think “that is not oppa” when indeed it’s him. but explain them the root reason.
that’s how you protect the boys and have to be strong for what u believe that they’re the victim here.
Where are the existence of”Broadcasting Institution” they should censor and giving warning to TV Broadcasting for Act bad/who to teach/invite others to replicate the deed.
and where the existence of their agents?
Does this kind of thing happens to other celebrities, which he said the best-selling album worldwide with a zillion CD’S sold out, and staying in various international TV show?
Or is this just happen to JYJ???
This sasaeng issue should became a national issue in SK, which parents allow their under age daughter going out in the middle of the night just to catch her idols?
forgive my messy english….my brain disfungtional cuz high pressure.
can u plz tell me from where i can have audio of what jj saying ?? i know say one with only 2m but i dont think he said all of this in that video so if anyone have another plz give me thank u :))
I’m totally freaked out….. gosh… what’s wrong with those……idiots…
I even feel sorry for wanting to get a glimpse of the guys in real life, even in a concert … no one should have such suffer.
I just hope that this will end and the culprits (not the victims) will be punished. I don’t care if they’re minors or not. They should spend some time in jail.
Victims have the right to fight back and they should do that!
i hate sasaeng fans.
JJ, YC, JS fighting!
You know what I find as the best irony? That one of those sasaengs, that “loves” its idol, after all she has put the boys through, after she stole the last unce of their privacy and selfesteem, just goes to the next tabloid and sells her recondings for big bucks, with the konwleage how negativelly it will impact their public image. Like – really?? Who would ever try to call a stalker a fan?
The pure irony.
I just can´t belive , I read all the entire article and I was surprised I knew TVXQ have a lot of fans and sasaengs fans in Korea also (in all Asia & foreigns fans) but stalk them in private taxis is incredible,like 10 taxis follow one car,
follow them to their houses, and the worse thing enter on their houses, copy their keys, I read Jaejoong was kissed by a fan while he was slepping o.o ! and Sasaengs fans make Changmin cried and all the members,they know their cellphone ID, their contacts they send messages: I know you change your number, It’s scary, how there do that kind of things, There are famous ok but
THE ARE PERSONS like you like me, they have feelings, and they have their own life.
And with all this things happen to they, Jaejoong Yuchun and Junsu still keep smiling to their fans, answer all the questions that fans ask, still make fanmeetings, and love what they do, sing.
Stop follow them too much to all the places they go,think they are normal persons and have feelings If you love they, don’t make they suffer and feel bad.
JYJ Fighting!! ^^~~~~ around you all many persons who love you.
Thank u for sharing this,,poor our boys,,they still have this suffer until now 😦 , no wonder JYJ now has many bodyguard esp when they in public place,,hope soon korean laws would have privacy rules to protect korean celebs 😦
Speechless….want to cry and make a transplant of humanity to this PRIVATES!!
usually i don’t post anything because i’m too shy to interfere in discussions,but everything about this people ,if i can call them so, is really…no words…
Their addiction is beyond my imagination!!!!
if they really want to make money like this then why not working for JYJ to protect them!!or for secret services!come to my country to work in ss!!
living like this for 6-8 years is like an everyday torture!!
Seriously!For Sasaeng fans~please try to think about your parents or at least think about yourself!!life is like a bumerang!!
God please protect our boys…
Wow this was extreme … extremely disturbing.
Causing car crashes on purpose? just this proves that they really can’t be be fans like come on if you like an artist you wont try to kill him/her.
The smirks and the girl standing in the apartment and the privates behind Junsu in the picture just gave me the shivers. going through that everyday for 10 years is way too much to take in. i swear if it was someone else they might have gone crazy. i would’ve too seeing a person sanding in my apartment. I feel bad for all five of them (yes i like both the bands JYJ and TVXQ)
I’m so pissed that i can’t even think straight. Hitting them literally hitting them wow poor changmin 😦
and i still don’t completely believe the fact that Jaejoong did in fact hit the girls ( yes if he did he had every reason to do so) BUT there is no video proof and the audio can easily be manipulated.(so can a video but that is mostly detectable) so yeah Jaejoong didnt hit anyone until i see proof of it.
In the end if i ever do meet them ( i can hope) i think ill feel guilty just approaching them. I wont be able to say that i am a fan or ask for an autograph or a picture. I know they can differentiate between the fans and these weirdos but i dont know i think a trace f guilt will always be there 😦
I just hope they stay strong JYJ(and TVXQ) FIGHTNG!! oh and Lets hope the concert is a super success 😀 !!!
They aren’t human. They aren’t. The government must be crazy. I feel so sorry for JYJ… ._.
Damn saesangs! I can’t even call them fans. They’re psychos >.<
I feel so sorry for DBSK, all 5 of them.
I love Korea and i began to love it after i fell in love with DBSK years ago. But this…i could never imagine it. It's more like a horror movie that became reality.
this is so messed up. since when is stalking and this kind of behavior ok? why are they not prosecuted fully for messing with someone else’s life? self defense is totally ok. the stupid privates are asking for this kind of thing. the police are the ones who should give it to them. then they can brag for being hauled to jail while harassing a star. stars should be allowed to call for help and have a response and some protection from this stuff. where do THEIR rights come in? and why are privates allowed to do all this without repurcussions? yeah, so it is hard to enforce, well do it anyway. stars are people first and need the same rights as other people get. the state of this world sometimes just makes me so frustrated.
The reason why they aren’t persecuted is because the majority are either under age and/or extremely rich. While others get a slap on the wrist when their idols call the police because its their “first offense”. I think South Korea needs to provide more protection and laws for idols especially since saesangs are a hazard to not just the idols but to everyone who happens to be near them at the time, whether they are friends, family, lovers, or complete strangers.
those ppl are not normal human beings , they r freaks for reals , i think they have far gone beyond the level of a stalker !!!!!
how did jaejoong hold it in when that creep sneak in n kiss him in the middle of the night ?
i would have beaten the living light out of her , n u wonder why he did what he did
I hope that this issue can be cleared up quickly because it is so stupid. It is so stupid and birzzar that the person who made the recording kept it for all these years and it is just now coming out. I am not totally convinced of the validity of the audio because it is easy to manipulate an audio tape. But if everything is found to be true I do not blame JYJ one bit. I personally would of acted the same way if put in that situation. Having to have to deal with sasaeng fans for so many years. Hell I might have even done worse.
This is so CREEPY!!! I want to cry reading what they all gone through!!!! These people are INSANE!!!! no words to express the anger that they put all 5 of them through!!
Someone needs to do something about this.. its getting out of hand.
My gosh.. I can’t stop crying… Our poor boys have been under that crazy situation almost for 10 years.. 1/3 of their lives… I feel goosebumps.. I really want to know if our boys are okay mentally.. they really need help.. shit.. T_T Someone please take them out of the hell… Please help… T_T
So….after all this mess…what about the lawsuit? O_O
Which lawsuit…? Idk that should’ve been over with like a year ago tbh. I think the courts aren’t doing their job. Its like the legal system is backwards over there. They make little things into big problems, and make major things seem like nothing.
THE lawsuit
JYJ versus SM?
i mean..is been a what? a year…and nothing…and im really getting tired with all this drama that SM is creating EVERYTIME JYJ does something important and huge in their careers
*sigh*
its been way over a year since the lawsuit. they filed in July ’09 and its March ’12. almost 3 years. I don’t think the courts care.
I’ve personally read online where fans (usually Asian decent, not trying to sound racist) would see JYJ (mostly overseas) and they would tell about them stalking them. Some of them would run into them out of coincidence or said they “heard they’d be in the area”. But once they saw them, they’d be like (usually with a friend) lets follow them and blah blah blah. I’ve read this, and wanted to leave comments about them being a stalker and why would you as a “fan” want to stalk them? I feel bad when i watch videos online. Even in public places like the airport, they’d have cameras all up in their face. Like back off….. Trust me if i ever saw them (or any other celebrity for that matter), I’d treat them like an everyone else. Say a few words if I “feel” the need then go about my business. I never understood people who are so, star struct.
This is so disturbing, I can’t imagine how I would feel having those stalkers every single day for years, I probably would be insane. In the end I thank the boys are still strong and alive.
I dont know what is more creepy: Those stalkers…or Jae talking with such honest O_O
Somehow i want to threw up…i dont know why…. 😦
T_______T I am speechless!
oh god.. this is crazy… i can’t express how i feel right now… it’s just… oh god…
the sasaeng taxi
please sub
scary, crazy so much , ,i cant tolerate enough what they did for years
T-T
This one just killed some part of me…You should never listen this audio…belive me…Jaejoong…I love him, I love him so much…and PRIVATES are psycho…And I so sorry for my precious beloved DBSK…but still it killes me…I hope I could forget all of this at all…And somebody just should protect them…
Lucky they didn’t go insane, ha I say we’re lucky they didn’t slit their wrist, because this is definitely enough to drive someone to suicide.
I’ve been stalked before, and it is not fun, it is not comfortable, and you will question your sanity.
i know!!!! i hate it when people do that!
Sorry… I know this is a serious article but I had a little laugh when I saw the headline… it’s can be taken as a bit misleading, if you know what I mean. **wink/wink**
Omo can’t stop crying and cursing.
Their the worst; a mix of rapists and stalkers.
I don’t envy stars’ lives anymore….ahjsjebdb.
Those type of people should get the death sentence.
Sheesh their more scary than those demons or ghosts blah.
JYJ just hwaiting unconditionally!!
I will spread this And i’ll translate it in my language.
thank you for this article.
JYJ, TVXQ, Kim Junsu, Kim Jaejoong, Park yoochun, Jung Yunho, Shim Changmin we love you, never give up.
poor guys and those psychos,they should be looked up, i would go crazy after 1 day and would probably run them over
Damn, now I wonder whether or not Jaejoong drinks a lot (according to common knowledge) because he likes to drink, or because its part of the celeb culture, or because he’s felt increasingly trapped and isolated as he’s become an adult in the industry.
I too am suspicious of this coming out right when JYJ are doing something incredibly important and continuing to prove they can flourish without a huge Korean conglomerate backing them. My B.S. radar is going off because I think there’s more to this mysteriously and ridiculously timed release.
This is stalking and these people would be charged with various crimes for doing similar things in the US.
I was thinking the same thing about his drinking…:(
…I’m the korean fan who translated this, and although I’m glad this article is being shared, can you make sure to check the google docs again? I revised it in some parts and there was a bit more added cuz I cam across more info….i hope by translating this I made some difference and change in the fandom…
please email the admin for the revised..i’m afraid they didn’t read ur comment..
and thank you very very much dear for the info…i really apreciate it..
Your the fan who translated this??? Thank you really so much! I read to the end and there was no credit and no name. I am sincerely thankful and that is all I can say because it can’t really carry my full feelings. I think it is needed very much in the International fandom and that it came from a korean fan adds to its impact.
Thank you so much for translated!!
i live dbsk so much…jyj or homin..
i just knew about this..of course i’ve heard about this all,but never knew that it’s this worse…
i literally cry when i read these all..
jj’s plead in audio file..
even changmin that i thought as the toughest one cried..
geez…i hope CJES could do something to help protecting them more..
and SoMonE better protect my other loves one much much more..or they couldn’t be called equal as human being…
aargghhhh!!!! JYJ FIGHTING!!!
HOMIN FIGHTING!!!
This is so sick!
What is even unbelievable is that they are not even protected by the South Korean Law.
How can the police just take these lightly?
These sasaengs are criminals not fans…never ever associate them with the word Fans!
JYJ we will always love you, support you and pray for you! ♥
I remember their messages when they not too subtiedly ask fans not to stalk them (JYJ TVXQ5 Homin). I found it weird and funny in some way. It made me smile because come on, girls/boys get a life. Now I don’t smile anymore. I’ve never been interested into those stalker vids on the internet that’s why I didn’t know how serious this matter was. I only heard the band members report their uneasiness, and knowing that in Japan some jrockers faced the same difficulty, I thought it was part of the asian culture. But now… seriously, I know – and they probably did know – that as celebrities they put themselves in a position where they have little privacy, but PRIVATES are just too much. Harming their idols just to get their attention or because they didn’t get attention, well it’s just s-i-c-k.
Stalking is a crime and idols should be protected too.
This is seriously messed up, do these so called fans, these Privates have any morals? Violence is not the answer, but you do have a right to defend yourself, someone should give TVXQ/JYJ pepper-spray for self defense. It is allowed here in the United States you can buy some at the police station, they should hand these out to the singers to use as defense, In my opinion, they would have a every rightful reason to use it. I would like to think that if i would ever meet these poor fellows, i would give them some in order to defend themselves from the abuse they’re getting from these so called fans. These people can’t be called fans if they can smirk, smile, or feel pride for hurting or making their so called idols cry, these “fans” need to get a grip with themselves, The police force of Korea should really be reevaluated if they’re letting Privates so close to these idols homes and letting them get away with it. My heart bleeds for ANY groups/idols who have to experience these extreme circumstances and levels of abuse.
as we know, the audio if it is true is all about 3 years ago when JYJ are under exteme pressure to fight against SM and also the pressure from these privates. The should be act these. But girls it is 3 years ago, our boys mature a lot and they change a lot then they left SM. They become more gentle and consider, and Jaejoong even tatoo the words( never blame anyone in the world). so he have learnt how to forgive people that hurt him a lot. So believe them, they are reeally kind and gentle for normal perosn^^
while sesaeng fans definitely are at fault, i couldn’t help but to feel uneasy about another thing. all these stuffs are from their pasts and they’re made into news just now. maybe SM did everything to make it stay low, at all cost. because no matter how sesaeng at fault, it’s the respective artists’ image that will be put on stake. and now that they don’t live under big agency, these so called reporters/journalists didn’t hold back anymore. they used sesaeng’s stuffs as resources, they cut the news as they pleased, and instead being an unbiased one, they do all stuffs just to crush a celebrity. they aren’t listed as journalists, right? because if they are, i’d definitely feel ashamed as fellow journalists (i’m an amateur one, though).
i so want to point at SM again, thinking that they’re probably behind all these news release. but i don’t care. i believe these so called reporters gave a chance to CJES to deny it, to hide these news, but the fact that they’re just letting it go made me feel a bit proud. all these news will definitely harm JYJ’s images, but it will also open people’s mind at how excessive these sesaeng’s behaviours, and probably parents can go spanking their kids if they went as far as stalking people. i hope somehow CJES/JYJ will speak up about this matter. while fans will probably remain unshaken with all the news, it’s not that time-consuming to tell people that it’s not like what news have said.
and as JYJ fans, i remain unshaken with all these ‘news’. i know how jaejoong and yoochun treasured their fans, and i know they always are.
When the Yoochun story broke and then this one The first thing I though was “what did the “fans ” do to him”. Like most fans I have long heard the crazy, ugly things that the sasaengs had done to them. Seeing it all in one article blew my mind though!
What surprises me most is that no one has been seriously injured. When I read this, what immediately came to my mind was the hollywood paparazzi-driving fast and reckless, causing car crashes and following celebs everywhere. What will it take to make this stop-someone being seriously injured or dying? I’m not even particularly talking about JYJ either-what about an innocent bystander who happens to be driving along & is then hit by one of these PRIVATE taxi cabs going the wrong way! The police need to do their job. Its ridiculous! Even those in hollywood, knowing that they’re being taped have been know to lash out because every second of everyday their privacy is being invaded. Its a very human response.
What’s so sad is that they were forced to leave their own country to have some peace and quiet & even then it was interrupted. And who are the parents of these underage stalkers-shouldn’t you be studying or doing your homework!? You are not fans-Just disgusting creeps with serious mental problems.
Also there was one part of the article I didn’t understand about-I know it says there are some rich older stalkers but how are the underage ones able to afford $800 taxi rides nightly? Are they being helped by the richer ones? Its so creepy…I remember when JYJ came to the US & AMERICANS stalked them and even made difficulties for paying hotel guest! I hope everyone keeps this article in mind when next they come to your country. Meeting them at the airport & yelling support behind the roped off area is fine but please don’t follow them-I’m sure they’d like to explore your country without a group of people following them..
JYJ FIGHTING!
The police force should have taken this kind of happening / incidents into consideration and the seriousness of it. For instance,
to prevent this kind of happening from being repeated is to enforce straight laws like (1 ) catching all these drivers from private vehicles or commercial and enforce imprisonment should there be involvement of a car accident if the opposite vehicles belongs to an artist /idol and ( 2) heavier fine if they are caught causing accidents or endangering road users and trailing after an artist / idol’s vehicles.(3) Suspend their driver’s license and blacklist them for future renewal .(4) Enforce the law on those invading their privacy and not to walk near them within a circumference of 8 meters. (5) Tracing the phone nos of these people who constantly call their private line and bring them into questioning inclusive of their parents and hold them responsible for their children’s action. (6) Any foreign fans caught will be exile for 5 years before they can visit Korea again. Basically, I think the police force is partly to be blame.If only they as a law enforcer be more vigilant in helping to enforce the law on these people than the artist/idol can lead a more safer and normal daily life .I think they forget that the artist/idol are also paying tax which is part of the government servant’s salary.
Feel so sorry for my boys
I can feel their pain, so sorry for them.
This is so sick and disturbing…I knew about the sasaengs, but I never knew the degree to which they terrorized JYJ/DBSK. And the fact that the police/laws are essentially doing nothing is maddening, these people are committing so many offenses (harassment, breaking and entering, identity theft, public endangerment…) the list goes on and on. They are creating a culture that allows these severely mentally unhinged people permission to continue doing this because there no consequences; there should be no excuse (age, gender, status) to what is being done here.
Most of all I feel extremely sad because no one should have to experience this. I am beyond shocked and dumbfounded by this situation. Forever JYJ fighting!
i feel really sOrry for the mennie T.T poor mennie and jae jae!!!
One final post from me on today’s stressful info. I remember watching video from the TVXQ days; in it Changmin was surrounded by “fans” and one lady’ an ‘auntie’ was in his face loudly and verbally abusing him. He had a knit cap on ,hands trying to cover his head looking down and there was absolutely nothing he could do; he was separated from the group. That was the most shocking thing I ‘d seen until the video of Jae being bodily carried to safety by bodyguards while in China; and these were regular fans, screaming for Jae. That video almost made me pass out; I was so scared he was being trampled to death; I was shaking after watching it!
I feel this is an orchestrated attempt not just to blacken JYJ’s reputation, but to try and divide and disrupt the JYJ family. Think about why these things are happening now when JYJ is so successful without the aid of their ent. industry and when their fame is proving to be flourishing world-wide. I’m not going to allow hatred and insanity to turn me away from being a JYJ fan. JYJ Fighting!!!
Yeah… the “China Airport” video was one helluva scary video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiECmqLE-OQ
OMG, scary Jaejoong when he is angry… kkkkk i just laugh so hard when he said those words,, hahahaha fucking bitches
I wonder how they survive for so long.
This is really a crazy sh8t.
Geez ….. ‘
I wish all those privates get their own lives from now on.
Leave JYJ and other idol stars alone.
I wish parents also have control over children who is stalking the idol stars. This article should be spread further and make known to public.
If I were in Korea, I will have thousands of copies and spread to everyone who pass by.
My heart goes out for JYJ.
scary they fans or anti fans? then “This man just slaps me in the face for no reason when I walk on the streets. He also gropes on my breasts and touches my private space” *OMG* man love JYJ too?
This is the worse. These stalkers…seriously, are they rich? Is that why they are so selfish and snotty? They think they can go invade JYJ/TVXQ privacy like they own JYJ/TVXQ? I am appalled. These people needs to be in a mental hopsital, or under watch, or in prison. Because from what I’ve just read, they have committed several crimes already. I just don’t understand why the damn police doesn’t do anything. How useless.
I feel so bad for all of them. I remember when there was news about how Changmin got hit in the head by a chinese fan. at that time, everyone thought that girl was just an anti. who would’ve thought that it was a Private. & Yunho’s case too, where he saved that one girl…when the news came out, everyone was admiring Yunho for saving the girl…but that girl was a private who was following Yunho in the first place. wow. just…wow. everything has been under a veil. Now, it’s finally being lifted and the truth is being shown.
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sometimes i think i should quit liking jyj…these saesanga really embaarrass me to death…maybe not liking them would be better for the guys.
Oh my God.. don’t they have a life?!! Those sasaeng fans… seriously!!
after read this, i’m so proud of K-Artist. Hwaiting!!
maybe..maybe what they (the boys) did are wrong to them and I think it’s understandable why the boys were hitting or scolding them.
but what the sasaeng did to the boys are inexcusable and unforgiven.
just give the boys a break, they are just humans like us who needs freedom.
I hope the boys getting much stronger than before.
JYJ fighting!!! don’t let them bring you down.
i heard the audio, n i feel like someone who record it is standing next to jae all the time. it means, the recorder is not one of those sasaeng since they hv run away when JJ scolded them.
also, the other recordings sounds like it’s not from the same scenery, maybe jae was drinking n drunk n rant abt those sasaengs, n there’s someone who was with him who record his rant without his knowledge.
i’m so suspicious of some people right now…
I am a Chinese fan and since the Korean fans and Cjes haven’t made much to clarify the sasaeng incident, Chinese fans have compared the Dispatch audio with Jaejoong’s Come On Over. Here is my rough translation from Chinese, I hope you can understand because the words are quite technical and difficult to translate.
Translation:
Using Jaejoong’s voice in COO as the parameter, the average similarity level of audio one is 0.735, audio two is 0.5775, audio three is 0.5675 and audio four is 0.67. Using other sources of Jaejoong’s audio as testing, compare with COO, the average similarity level is 0.926. so, basically, the spread audio now is not recorded from the real voice of Jaejoong.
Original(from weibo):
声纹识别(得意声纹识别系统无文本版本,结果算法为线性),以coo片段金在中声音为基准,音频1的平均相似度为0.735,音频2的平均相似度为0.5775,音频3的平均相似度为0.5675,音频4的平均相似度为0.67(用金在中其他音频测试,一样与coo对比,平均相似度为0.926)基本可证,流传音频非金在中原声录制。
I am sorry for my bad English and translation. I have tried my best. I just wish this can be spread out so that more people will understand that all this mess are fake.
I am a Chinese fan and since the Korean fans and Cjes haven’t made much to clarify the sasaeng incident, Chinese fans have compared the Dispatch audio with Jaejoong’s Come On Over. Here is my rough translation from Chinese, I hope you can understand because the words are quite technical and difficult to translate.
Translation:
Using Jaejoong’s voice in COO as the parameter, the average similarity level of audio one is 0.735, audio two is 0.5775, audio three is 0.5675 and audio four is 0.67. Using other sources of Jaejoong’s audio as testing, compare with COO, the average similarity level is 0.926. so, basically, the spread audio now is not recorded from the real voice of Jaejoong.
Original(from weibo):
声纹识别(得意声纹识别系统无文本版本,结果算法为线性),以coo片段金在中声音为基准,音频1的平均相似度为0.735,音频2的平均相似度为0.5775,音频3的平均相似度为0.5675,音频4的平均相似度为0.67(用金在中其他音频测试,一样与coo对比,平均相似度为0.926)基本可证,流传音频非金在中原声录制。
I am sorry for my bad English and translation. I have tried my best. I just wish this can be spread out so that more people will understand that all this mess are fake
Thanks.
I’ll post in twitter. 🙂
This is such an eye-opener. I never thought that they have gone through something this bad. I dearly hope that SK government would do something about this extreme acts of stalking and invasion of privacy. I mean, following them around with their activities as singers is one thing, but actually breaking into their house to steal stuff and most all use their social security numbers – these are criminal acts and should be punishable by law. JYJ are human beings and they are entitled to basic human rights as well. Yes, they chose to be public figures but it doesn’t give anyone a license to make them suffer to this extent.
I didn’t even listen to the audio clips because my gut feel says that JJ wouldn’t do such thing. For the sake of argument, let’s say he really did. I would never blame him. Violence isn’t the answer but can someone seriously tell me that it’s not the normal reaction for this highly inhuman acts?!
Just when JYJ’s career is flourishing on all parts of the globe, some people try to put them down. I guess we all have a clue who could be behind this propaganda.
Be strong JJ, Junsu and Chun!
agree, to you 100% I didn’t even listen to the audio clips because my gut feel says that JJ wouldn’t do such thing.
SASAENG FANS !!!!
GET A LIVE or GO TO THE HELL !!!
Don’t distrub them !!
Be strong my JYJ … My homin …and my TVXQ 5 !!
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Seriously, the craziest thing i ever heard about !
Freaking saesung fan’s need to get a hold of themselves. Leave The boys alone, They dont deserve all this? what they do to the saesung fans to get abused…verbally and physically.
JaeJoong Oppa is really scaring me…I feel so bad for him. Then The foriegn Part hurt me to No end, Im Black, french and Cherokee Indian. and it hurt me to no end…but he was drunk so…-sigh- I…I…God lord have mercy.
DongBangShinki…
Tohoshinki…
Homin and JYJ…Im praying for ur safety…wish Us Cassies can do something…can STOP the Saesungs. Eleminate them one by one. ITS JUST i don’t like seeing u put through so much misery and pain. Not all Foreigners are bad JaeJae…Makes me want to cry..But i have to stay strong. Saesung fans…Privates….Anti’s BE WARNED
hey no one proved the audio is true but some Chinesse fans prove that it is not true and sound of hitting is unreal and JJ’s Japanese friend twritte that the audio is not true. So please be strong to support JJ and JYJ, ok
WOW! I LOVE THIS ARTICLE SO MUCH!!! XDD
i really hope antis will read this article so their eyes are wide opened and turn back to fully support JYJ ^^
JYJ member are very humble towards their FANS and try their very best to repay FANS’ love by creating good musics/perfs
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[A news reporter who knew about these TVXQ PRIVATES once said,
“It’s a wonder how TVXQ doesn’t go insane.”]
If i experiencing this HORRIBLE thing, I WILL GO CRAZY immediately!!! *goosebumps* TT___TT
If these Privates keep going like this, they are going to force their idols out of Korea forever. Jae, Chunnie & Junsu might very well choose to live in another country altogether just to get some peace & privacy. S Korea needs to take this issue seriously & bring in strict privacy & anti-stalking laws, irrespective of the stalkers age.
where can I find the mp3,which Jae joong said?
So was that him or not? Anyway, this is bad. Those people are crazy and just scary. How is it that TVXQ/JYJ manages to function like normal human beings when they are in that kind of situation 24/7?
im crying !!! what the helll are these fanssssss ?????
No blame on JJ if i were him i would kill these people without even blanking an eye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh my… how can those heartless alien beings act that way. they are fools for not knowing the meaning of freedom and privacy. jaejoong, changmin, yoochun, yunho and junsu are HUMAN beings who want to live their lives normally but can’t because of those abnormal doings of those PRIVATES. for privates: you alone have your own lives. why don’t you try living as human beings and leave your acts of foolishness. you have no right to meddle and wreck the precious lives of these people.
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THIS IS HORRIBLE! Absolutely disgusting!
These sasaengs need to be educated and counseled. They need to go for therapies because they are sick in their fcking minds and they are just too obsessed that it’s uncontrollable. I knew about these sasaengs a long time ago, but I didn’t know of most of their actions/CRIMES. Now this article has totally enlightened me with what DBSK members had to go through daily. It’s fcking sick! I can’t believe these girls still don’t feel ashamed of themselves! It’s such a shame that these girls lack respect for themselves, forcing themselves into the private lives of others! IT’S SO DAMN SICK OMG such shameless pigs.
Previously, I had commented that I was against physical abuse but now that I’m fully aware of what has been happening I take back my words. I don’t think that hitting someone’s head like that is considered a form of violence. For one, hitting someone else’s head is pretty common in their culture, ain’t it? Correct me if I’m wrong. These sasaengs really need to be punched back to reality, really.
I was thinking.. maybe hire bodyguards to stand outside their door so that the sasaengs can’t enter? Orrr you know like, when the president travels around by car he has the whole gang of motorcyclists to pave the way… maybe they can invest in those? sigh.. my ideas may sound ridiculous but I’m really very worried about their safety… there’s just too much happening and it’s just damn crazy
reading this not only makes me angry but also sympathy to the boys
they’ve been through a lot…
i feel no sympathy nor pity towards those sasaeng “fans”
if they really loved the boys, give them privacy and give them a normal life where they’re not being followed around all day and not being afraid whenever they go out
Jae’s drunken rant, he had EVERY RIGHT TO let out his frustrations in that manner especially when it’s in defense and retaliation. I can never say a VICTIM was wrong for getting back at their abuser especially after years and years of being privately battered. A
fter reading this post all I could say was THESE BITCHES….FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
I enjoy when they’re off to places where they’re unknown…so they can LIVE but I wish they could do the same in their own homefront. It’s the best gift I wish they could ever receive, the gift of privacy. How dare you give my inspiration Junsu your bloody intimates. REALLY. DISGUSTING. You know what’s a better gift, to LEAVE HIM ALONE. This is not 1400’s we don’t stone people anymore why they did that to Changmin? LEAVE HIM ALONE. 18 cars following Yunho? LEAVE HIM ALONE. And then to wreck their cars, and to smack Micky..,I’ll smack your ass to PLUTO see how that feels. LEAVE THEM ALONE.
They do this not out of LOVE but out of ATTENTION, out of NOTORIETY to be linked to something they feel is WAY ABOVE THEIR LEVEL. They feel so lowly of themselves that they dump their miserable lives and cling on to the lives of others they feel are more worthy. It’s like LIFE SNATCHERS that’s what there doing. They’re stealing their lives and it’s not right. FUCKING LEECHES! What you’re stealing identities for? Why do you care who’s calling them and is on their phone’s. YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF OWNERSHIP. What’s yours is yours and what’s theres is theres. How’d you feel if some random started stalking you sasaeng?
That would creep me the FUCK OUT to wake up to some unknown in my home. They could have killed me? done anything? This reminds me of the episode Dangerous Love, when the girl that helped Su and Min was a saesang. I remember watching that back in the day and I went “I hope that don’t happen for real” and to hear that randoms actually groped them, in their homes WOWWWWWWWWW. What he does is not your business. Who are you? And he’s damn right all that damn money they spent to stalk they could of spend to make them number one. SELFISH bitches! Priorities all wrong.
I remember that one time I thought I was emailing Jaejoong but it was a Vietnamese sasaeng. REALLY what you pretending to be them for?
They just need one good moment to legally stop a sasaeng make a great example of of he/she that can deter the others. NEVER have I seen such stalker behavior in DRONES like this why because they can get away with it. No one’s calling them out.
There needs to be laws and strict punishment against behavior like this. This isn’t LOVE…this is someone feeling they have the right to control and takeover someone else life. This is plainly parasitic a fucking cancer and it’s wrong.
LETS BURRIED THOSE MICHEO SASAENG ALIVEEEEEE
Damn! These privates are scary!!! I wish DB5K well because these may never leave them alone!
++) I just….can’t….translate this…it’s just too awful….click the link
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=pyc&no=75783&page=1&bbs
can anyone tell me what this is? It won’t allow me to access it, and I’m super curious:)
this is too crazy! its all over kpop news and stuff > < ugh the members need tasers!
hi, i’m hyun. i read your whole post (actually it took me a few tries to get through it without wanting to puke or without crying)
i think all of those privates are fucked up (i live around some people that act like that since i was really young so i kind of understand the feeling myself but my situation is nothing compared with what i just read here), and though it may seem impossible to do so, i (along with a few other people) have started an anti-private group called ulzzangSOS that once we gain enough members will set out to destroy the privates. (and i don’t mean through violence so don’t get the wrong idea)
we have a plan already that will work if executed properly. (i can’t say the details publicly, obviously because i don’t want privates finding out) but ulzzangSOS has a plan, and we need EVERYONE and ANYONE to join our organization. even if an individual is incapable of being physically present to help us, even if an individual is not a fan, even if an individual has no time to help, no matter your situation, we need YOU! i’m speaking to EVERYONE that sees my comment here! go and spread the word, tell everyone in your life about ulzzangSOS. With the help of YOU (everyone) we as a whole can do this! not justone individual, not just a few people, but EVERYONE! we WILL defeat the privates! so please do everything in your power to help ulzzangSOS!
for any questions or comments contact me at ichigokiss4ever@gmail.com or join our facebook group.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/390388044323560
(we will have groups and pages available soon on many other websites such as myspace, twitter, facebook, friendster, me2day, etc..)
i thank you sincerely to anyone willing to help in any way to put an end to the inhuman acts of the privates.
thanks,
-leader of ulzzangSOS, No Hyunmin-
Oh my GOD. I got ghostbumps. O my GOD o my GOD o my GOD.
protect our boys please..
I hope they get the justice they deserve. Those girls need to get a life!! They will never have them and theyre doing more harm than good. Those girls deserve to get smacked and then some. Heck they probably like it the freakshows.
I feel sooooooo sad for them…;( shoot I am like cring here!!! Man those f*cking stupid stalker better stop man!!!! I mean how would you like it if you were constantly stalk and unable to have your space????!!!! Man if you were in America you would had your ass lock up in jail already!!!! Because in America we like our space and freedom!!!! And our freedom is what we’ll get!!! >:<. Shoot!! I still made about Max getting his hand injure!!!! Even though I'm not a big fan that'll stalk them or constantly check what they do!!! But I do love to listen to there song and respect their dream in wanting to sing!!! You know what???!!! In America the first thing we learn in school is to treat other how we want to be treated!!! So think about this you STUPID F*CKING stalkers!!!! How would feel if it was you being stalk 24-7???!!!
Now this is for JYJ them!!
Keep on going and don't forget your dream!!! And when you sing!! Sing with all your heart and might!!! And most important of all!!!! Stay together and be happy and pursuit your dream!!!!! \(^o^)/
Today I learned about Sasaeng fans, the term. And now I’ve learned so much more this is actually one of those times where I’m actually almost brought to tears because of a celebrity related article. I tend not to read celebrity related articles though because I find them kind of dumb. Sure I love so and so and all but honestly I really don’t care whether their single or not. Or if their swimsuits are too revealing. It’s part of their privacy.
What I do care is if they are well or not, it’s sad when someone who you admire or inspires you to do something goes through something not too positive or went through something not too positive, especially when it’s losing something. Losing your family, friends, privacy, health and such.
I believe other people should care about these things too and not worry if someone flat out insults or critiques them on a place like youtube. Sure I believe that they really shouldn’t just insult the artist on their on video but people shouldn’t let that bother them like take it too heart as if they are the artist themselves. In fact no one should really do that there’s always going to be someone who doesn’t like you taking it to heart won’t make them like you it’ll just make you feel worse. Best thing to do is just turn the other way, of course if it’s persistent then you really SHOULD do something about it.
Sorry! I forgot to thank you for writing this article. It really touched me and I learned about the issue. I wish that many of us could have powers to magically put a barrier between the idols and people like PRIVATES. We’ll be like the fan version of X-men~ Protecting celebs from harm… Fan-men!
This is absoluetly shocking. I’ve heard fans who would kill themselves if the star doesn’t marry them. But to go as far as to hurt the star himself…I don’t know what to say. What the boys did, whether it’s hitting the fan, or scolding them; it’s perfectly normal. These PRIVATES sound crazy. It’s like their on drugs. To be obsessed over one person, that with no offense meant, will never be in their future, is just mind boggling. Also, to diss Changmin with words like “神经病,不得好死” and hitting him with a sack of rocks, that’s really harsh for someone your supposed to love. (I’m chinese, and if words like those were dropped on me, I would give that person a serious smack down.) Moreover, to make him cry, and SMIRKING?! I can’t help thinking what I just read is all made up, but if this is all true, it really pisses me off! If you like someone, your supposed to CHERISH them. NOT harm them! These fans are nuts! They should all be sent to jail. Or have restraining orders put on them. Poor DBSK. I feel so bad for them. Well, I hope Korea…no SM entertainment will do something to help these boys.
how can people be so cruel?????? i cried so much because of this blog – also i have never hated any one now as much as i hate them!!!!! i – can’t express how i’m feeling after reading this blog! its disgusting!!!
How could this be so cruel?
I had no idea why they (sasaeng) can be so crazy like that? They don’t even think about their future life. All they life is ONLY to their idol?? while there’s a lot of meaningful things than do that. tsktsk
so irony.
so sad those things happened in my idol.
always pray for the best to all jyj/dbsk members.
I really love jyj. Hope they will always be an idol that I will love with full of respect. Thanks
I just read this and it has solidified my beliefs that these people are crazy.
I don’t know how a rational person could have remained sane after all this, not to mention what we didn’t see written down
This is disgusting, after reading this I can’t believe that they still wanted to be celebrities. I know they love what they do but this is something that just takes invasion of privacy to an entirely new level. And it’s not JYJ it’s TVXQ as all five that have been harassed they have been threatened. I still remember when someone tried to poison Yunho, I mean this shit is ridiculous, it’s no wonder JYJ left. They weren’t getting paid enough to deal with that bullshit, and their still dealing with it. All of them.
they’re not fans actually!!
But they’re criminals and psycos!! >,<
please PRIVATES,give 'em some privacy!!
I hope that if anyone ever witnessed these attacks, they would stand up for the idol, fan or not. If it were me, I’d bitchslap the attacker so hard, they’d end up on the other side of the world. As for the idol, I’d probably help them up if they fell, get some tissues if they were crying, and call a therapist, because after so many attacks, I think they’d go insane. Or at least I would.
This is just awful, no one should have to suffer like jyj/tvxq have done over the last 9 years I have heard stories of these types of people but reading all of this has sickened me. I don’t care if these stalkers are underaged they should be punished for putting people through this kind of crap.
I am so disgusted I can’t even muster a comment on this messed up pile of shit.
What is this omg? Why do these things even exist? Where’s law and all that shiz? omg.
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I hate them!
I can understand when someone is obsessed with JYJ
I can understand when someone want to know everything about the boys
I can understand when someone is so weak that news about JYJ members are the only thing they can hold on to.
And i can understand when someone is so weak that for this person its better to be hated of the boys, than be not known.
But i cant understand one thing.
A fan is someone who want to support an idol, who want the best for this person, to be a fan mean to give love for your idol.
But this!!!????
I hate this saesang””fans”
They are just thinking about themselves and are happy to have the new information.
They ont care about the fact, that the boys are suffering, they suffering all the time, i wonder that they arent insane yet…
JYJ are humans!
They have feelings too, they are afraid, they choose this life to make people happy through their music! Not to be terrored by so called “fans” .
Its heartbreaking for me to read how they have to suffer… its just heartbreaking and not human being
im a british kpop fan i love tvxq jyj equally im saddend they have faced such irrisponsible actions that are so insane tank u for sharing this