We are very saddened by recent incidents within our JYJ fandom that has undeniably caused confusion and misunderstanding among JYJ fans. Given that the issue has escalated to a point that it has, sadly, caused rifts between fans, we think it would be irresponsible for us to remain silent and ignore the issue as if it doesn’t exist.
The purpose of this post is to share information, and debunk malicious rumours being spread by certain fans. Just like in the past, we reported about Hotel Fans (Anti Fans of JYJ) spreading malicious rumours about JYJ. This time, we are reporting malicious rumors created by some acgae fans that allegedly involve Yoochun, Jaejoong and C-Jes. [A/N: “Acgae Fans” are malicious one member/person fans, not to be confused with “individual member fans”]
Recent Incidents and Malicious Rumors:
– On June 7, a post was made at Park Yoochun DC Gall that Yoochun was offered 30 CFs but was rejected by C-JeS because of someone or something. Acgae fans complained that C-JeS rejected these CF offers for Yoochun in favor of more [JYJ] group CFs. The acgaes blamed both Junsu and Jaejoong, but most of the anger was fueled toward Jaejoong with acgaes saying he is jealous of Yoochun or that he is simply being selfish. Allegedly, Park Sang Ho, who is Yoochun’s manager and now is in charge of managing JYJ, was named by these acgae fans as the source of this information. Subsequently, Park Sang Ho confirmed, through a recorded conversation with a fan, that the CF issue had no relation to Jaejoong at all. [A/N” We’d like to emphasize that these actions were made by acgae fans, i.e. malicious fans, and not all fans within the YC fandom]
– This rumor was not contained immediately in the fansite, and as a result, were spread to different fansites. Some acgae fans, unfortunately,believed this rumor and attacked Jaejoong on different fansites and sent direct mentions to Jaejoong on twitter calling him selfish and blaming him for the CFs being called off. Why? Allegedly, some of the CFs were taken from Yoochun and given to Jaejoong. Until now, some acgae fans continue to demand that Jaejoong apologize to Yoochun, and ask him to return the CF deals. Additionally, more malicious rumours are being created by acgae fans, such as “all the previous JYJ CF deals were all done thanks to Yoochun’s popularity.”
– Some Yoochun fans also sent angry messages to Yoochun on twitter, voicing out their disagreement of his rejection of the CF deals.
– Some malicious fans started to spread this rumor in the international fandom via twitter. It then quickly spread to Chinese and Japanese fandoms and later to the international fandom. This resulted to people sending hateful messages to Jaejoong and C-JeS via acgae fansites, weibo and twitter.
– @Beyondmonica (Staff of C-JeS) is currently receiving a lot of criticism on behalf of CJeS. Many fans are expressing their discontent on how CJeS is handling this incident, that allegedly also involves a manager of C-JeS (Park Sang Ho).
– On June 8, a day after the rumors started from PYC Gallery, PYFU, (Park Yoochun Fan Union), announced through the statement published below that they have discussed the rumor with C-JeS entertainment, and information gathered through that discussion is stated in the statement below:
– On June 12, given that the rumours affected Jaejoong, and nothing has been done to clear Jaejoong’s name, and because this incident has opened up questions with regards to the relationship between fans and C-Jes/ alleged sharing of information by C-Jes personnel (i.e. the CF issue allegedly was from a C-jes Manager), JFU (Jaejoong Fan Union) sent this letter of inquiry:
– On June 14, JYJ Fan Union (DNBN, JYJ19, Ikadong and Nameless Home) Released their Statement:
– On June 15, C-Jes Entertainment Issued an announcement on their Website:
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This is C-JeS Entertainment.
After a series of unfounded and malicious rumors, we apologize for the burden and inconvenience it has caused fans.
There is not 1% of truth in the rumors and by reacting to them, we honestly felt it would incite bigger problems. However, in replying, we believe it will define our position and hopefully resolve misunderstandings and mistrust. Below is our stance:
First, the very purpose and existence of C-JeS Entertainment is to support the activities of our artists and their growth and development. We want the best for our artists and manage their options reasonably and on the basis of trust.
Now and in the future, C-JeS Entertainment will not change its management principles. We do not accept the series of claims that have happened. Therefore, we would like to emphasize that anything not posted on our official site or released to the media through formal press release, is not considered our official position or documentation.
Finally, if these rumors and slander are still spread to the public, we will take legal action believing that these can damage the reputation of our artists and company. Additionally, we promise to take strong action against unfounded rumors and slander being declared as truth when they are not the official position of the company.
The above-described incidents have caused confusion and division among JYJ fans. We express our deep disapproval of those acgae fans that started these malicious rumours that, intentionally or unintentionally, pitted JYJ fans against each other.
We urge our readers to be more discerning of information being spread throughout the fandom and exercise careful judgement, even if these information comes from known fansites or fansite admins. At the end of the day, we are all equally just fans. As such, don’t take those information as if they are the absolute truth. Before believing such information, ask yourself again and again, if that information makes sense.
The JYJ fandom has received many shocking news and malicious rumours before, but we have always confronted them together. This time it hit us hard/deeply and the worst consequence is that incidents like this threatens the unity of the JYJ Fandom. Due to the increasing solo activities of Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu, given the current incident, it is alarming that more and more incidents like this may occur in the future. Not all ‘individual fans’ or ‘fansites’ should be seen as malicious fans, however, there are rotten apples in every fandom, specifically acgae fans who promotes their bias at the expense of others/another. Readers, this isn’t the first rumour instigated by acgae fans, nor is this the first time we’ve seen discord between fans, so please, be more cognizant of the true intentions of certain fans/ fansites with information that they disseminate. And, again, exercise careful judgement before believing certain information, or rumours passed on as “truth”.
Lastly, we ask all the fans to please be responsible for their actions and words. We ask biased fans not to promote their bias at the expense of another. Sometimes we forget who are our enemies. Don’t we have enough obstacles ahead of us without adding more? Do you really believe that attacking one member will help your bias? The great losers of this battle are JYJ and their fans.. You are only achieving what Antis, SM and AVEX have failed all this time to accomplish… Kill JYJ and their fandom. Please reconsider your behavior.
Thanks for your attention,
Tagged: Jaejoong, Rumour Control, Yoochun
OMG! why something like this happen? we are family rite?
http://www.kpopstarz.com/poll-vote.htm vote for jyj yesterday was winning
I only voted for Junsu,
I even didnt know that JYJ’s name were also present too..
OMG last night they were winning
Thank u for this Admin. I hope things will go better each coming day.
And I hope CJes can clear JJ’s name soon enough, if it hasn’t been done. If it is done, then I thank CJes from the deep of my heart.
Well said, this has gone way out of control… I still find myself a wee bit confused as what is really going on….. I don’t think I want to care anymore. Anyways, can we please just put this behind us and focus on important things here? thanks 🙂
Totally agree with you here… let’s put this behind us, and just support J.Y.J! JYJ Fighting! JYJ FANS, Fighting, ya?!
God Bless you for doing this.. finally initiative on the JYJ fandom side toclear this.. it is so ugly in twitter right now.. thank you honestly!! now our enemy has a name.. let us not generalizedindividual fans not all of them are malicious.. we only have a few bad apples and we shpuld not let them destroy the group..
Thank Admin for the reminder. Though I love Jaejoong but I do love JYJ as well. THAT WILL NEVER GOING TO CHANGE
Thank you so much for summarizing this. It had been all so confusing and I had been waiting for this. This is such a sad happening and after all I think the people who feel the worst are the boys themselves…. We can see how much they truly love each other and I hope it doesn’t spread and impact their great relationships.
Exactly!!…in the end, the only ones affected are the boys themselves, so what good could come from spreading rumors, starting ugly campaigns and confrontation?!
jyj3 admins only talk about jaejoog got attack but the fact is everybody is blaming yoochun fandom even yoochun, laughing at 30 cf offers.. in fact, i saw only one anti fan say bad words @jaejoong twitter, im so sad and angry cause i don’t understand jaejoong fans and group fans are so angry with yoochun fandome, i saw a lot of people say bad words to yoochun fandome even to yoochun’s father,im shocked! and very angry!
Thank you that is why I don’t understand those who are acting like only Jaejoong suffered from this debacle. Yoochun and Junsu were affected too. JYJ Suffered. This could have been resolved without becoming a shit storm if people didn’t poke their noses were they didn’t belong. If people didn’t let arrogance overrule their common sense. These same fans helped spread it further on twitter, and allowed it to reach other fandoms. So, stop the hypocrisy. Some people seem to be enjoying this drama too much and the attention they are getting from it. Live your life and stay the **** out of JYJ’s personal business.
one fan ? are you sure ?
did you read @jeaneration comment below, this more then just one fans say a bad word on tiwitter anymore and sorry no one blame all yoochun fans here, coz if you read carefully even admin JYJ3 said “not all YC fans/ just YC bias crazy fans”
Sorry, but what about the crazy Jaejoong fans that even before this all started, were saying CJeS wasn’t representing Jaejoong fairly. That him being “the most popular member,” why didn’t he have any TV CFs. That CJeS wasn’t promoting Jaejoong’s OST, because they wanted Junsu to shine. That Jaejoong is suffering, because he is too loyal to the other two and so unselfish. Now isn’t saying such things, unfair to the other two. Doesn’t that make the other two look bad? That is why I find this faux outrage by the very same people, a tad bit hypocritical.
I know my not toeing the line that Jaejoong is the only one that has been hurt by this will cause some to make vague remarks about ‘fake Jaejoong fans’. But, I see no reason to defend myself or my loyalty to all 3 members of JYJ.
i’m not taking a side with JJ crazy bias fans too, after all bias fans is just the same YC fans jaeolus with JJ and JS, JJ fans jaelous wth YC and JJ and JS fans jaelous with JJ and YC..it’s going a round and a round like this since a long long time ago, and here i just want to corectt what @kolae said… that this not more then just one fans anymore who make a fuss, and all of this start with a jealousy feeling.
and yes i agree with you eveyone suffered here..all of them not just JYJ but all JYJ fans too thats why i support JFU and JYJFU here..Cjes should explaint to us since this is part of their work, untill when we should close our eye and ignore this situation coz i’m sure in the future something like this will happen again.
Is a Mistake I did too. I talk about YC fans, because it was an announcement made by PYC fan Union, but then i think the best way to call it is just the anti fans.I know a lot of chunsas who are hurt because of this situation and they dont believe in the rumors.
But notice that there are a lot of antis sending him mentions in korean and chinese, not just one fan. There is also the incident in the gallery too.
JJ fans are not exaggerating, the prove is how JYJ fan Union have to speak up, not only JJ fans are concerned and hurt by what is happening
That said, nothing gives any fan a excuse to bash Yoochun over what is happening. His fans (that are anti fans) are not HIM.
Its time for Cjes to take an action.. officially not just a word from some manager.
I think you both mistook what JYJ3 is serving here. No one is ignoring anyone.
It is not one anti saying bads. If you only saw one, it means you need to gather more references. JYJ3 will not go on with posting the post if it’s only a ‘minor’ problem caused by an anti.
No one is enjoying the drama sis. I didn’t see you on Twitter lately, but if you read more tweets, you will get the idea that we were not screaming about Jaejoong’s pain out of nothing. And no one is neglecting Yoochun and Junsu while asking a clarification for Jaejoong. If you really feel strong about this, maybe you can ask PYFU of why did they demand answers on behalf of Yoochun only, and not for Jaejoong and Junsu too, since their demands were already granted by CJes?
Just please re-read the post. Thank u!
I think you need to reread my posts also, because nowhere in my posts was I talking about JYJ3 in general. My comments were directed specifically to those “fans”, who are making this huge ruckus and turning this matter into a spectacle.
My comment was meant for your comment right under @KOLASE’s. She was talking about JYJ3 Admin, and you were agreeing her comment.
I guess it comes down to how you choose to interpret her comment. I don’t see this supposed blame of the JYJ3 Admins, I read her comment as pointing out that other people were affected by this. Therefore, my comment was in regards to the fans who went too far in attacking members of JYJ and their families. Consequently, I think the Admins of JYJ are grown enough to defend themselves, so I see no excuse to continue to belabor this topic.
Consequently, I think the Admins of JYJ are grown enough to defend themselves, so I see no excuse to continue to belabor this topic.
What does it mean?
JYJ can defend themselves so fans have nothing to do with any of the above post?
JYJ are not supposed to do everything themselves, that is why they have CJes to arrange things for them. And CJes is to provide fans with information about JYJ. At this moment, CJes is not doing things fairly, that is why the question was raised. It has nothing to do with them as grown ups.
I hope admins will add this picture so that people could know how serious this situation is. THIS IS NO JOKE.
They are defaming Jaejoong and harming Jaejoong’s reputation WORLDWIDELY.
I was so shocked looking at this picture in the morning,
take a look those RED graffiti on Jaejoong’s face… I just got speechless.
It is ugly and unacceptable.
But I really hope we dont spread this.
What if Jae gets to see this?
Remember, he has the tendency to checkout his pictures/news online.
It’s not fair that the actions of those idiots make him sad.
I wonder sis…. if Jaejoong hasn’t seen that yet. And I also wonder that as much as it pains us, is it better to keep it like we never saw that while having so many girls at that university seeing the pic? If they talk so much about it while JYJers are oblivious about what they are talking about…. won’t it make us the ignorant fans?
I think if there are Jae fans there, they should remove it asap.
Why let it stay there and be seen and laughed at by antis?
But spreading it everywhere, showing a ‘damaged Jae’ pic is definately not what I want to see.
I wonder how many students took the pic and uploaded it to internet. I got it not from the first hand on Twitter.
And we have seen the cruel act the antis did to Jaejoong for us not to wish seeing it…
What about ones who haven’t? No one would like to witness such evil act. It broke my heart seeing that, but I would want to know what people are talking about instead of guessing what it is.
I’m totally lost, what picture are you guys talking about? I’m realy shocked with all this, I was hete yesterday and all news were positive. What’s going on?!
The pic may be taken down because I was not able to view it by clicking on the link you posted.
“What if Jae gets to see this? Remember, he has the tendency to checkout his pictures/news online.”
I’m always thinking that same thing about some of the pics and posts here. Some of them make me cringe to think that he should ever see/read them. Like you, I hope that people here on JYJ3 will grow to be a little more aware that Jaejoong does surf the internet and he does look at fansites and what we write and post may very well come to his attention at some point… I think it’s at least worth keeping in mind.
As to the topic above, I really kind of wish I’d waited with my comments until I’d read it, although that would have been hard for me. 🙂
Anyway, I want to thank the Admins for the nice job of summarizing the situation and adding details that had only been speculation by a few of us until now.
*butt in* And now Jaejoong can read English too.
that place is a university in China, three moron girls did that to Jaejoong’s face and humiliated him in public, insisting that Kim Jaejoong should give the 30 CFs back to Yuchun and apologize him. /sigh
I always assumed ppl going to an university are kind of smart… this doesn’t seem to be the case…I really don’t get ppl, really… I don’t….
I hope someone removed it or paint over it or whatever…this kind of childish behavior makes me sick and how can’t they consider that Yoochun and Jaejoong (and of course Junsu) are friends and wouldn’t never want that something like this would be done to their friends *sigh* I mean, do they really think that this is in the best interest for Yoochun?
they are morons, why? because they believe the bullshits. CF’s are not something that can be stolen as easily as a roast beef sandwich from the fridge at work. Why so ignorant. I wonder how they got into college with being brainless.
There are even screencaps of what they did. See what they were doing.
(credit: DC TVXQ gallery)
It happened in PYC gallery first, a stranger(really a stranger who had just signed up in DCinside to post this bullshit) posted the false rumor all of sudden, then they believed it and went insane.
See the number of votes & comments. How pathetic.
Then they started spreading rumors in different fansites and on twitter,
even tweeted to Jaejoong (@mjjeje) saying “Please let our Chunnie go of you” with some humiliating words that I can’t dare to translate.
First “please” and then adding humiliating words? How pathetic those are!
Those morons and CJes are harshly criticized and scorned now in JYJ’s Korean fandom.
But some i-fans are STILL siding w/ C-Jes and saying Jaejoong fans cause fanwars.
What, they already crossed the line, didn’t they? Enough is enough, seriously.
If they don’t want to protect Jaejoong, I hope they just be at least quiet please.
If they want to see only what they want, I hope they just step back from this incident please, instead of being ignorant.
Maybe… they just find it so hard to read properly… Illiterate is indeed dangerous!
What are your real intentions? Do you try to start a lynch or what? Each big fandom has its morons, YC´s as well as JJ´s.
Why do you try to stirr everything more then it is now? Why do you try to make a victim only from Jae? All sides became victims from this crazyness. And C-Jes? They have a lot of flaws, but as of now they are an ally of jyj, not an enemy! I bet they have better things to do then to defend themself from hunderts of wild fans stuck in the fandom politics, its like a big kindergarden. Junsu is in the middle of his Asian tour, Jae needs a lot of schedule/time coordination, Chun is busy discussing his next plans and offered contracts and don ´t forget the big 4-days fan-fair is in 2 weeks. The staff is probably overworked in a similar manner as Jae right now.
I used to follow your twitter and had a respect to you. That´s over now.
Thank you ruber for speaking out. Talk about defeating the purpose of this post. This post was to unite and bring everyone together. When people start to play victim and see attacks were there are none, then everyone and everything becomes an enemy. Unbelievable, some of the people making the loudest noise need to look at themselves and what role they played in this madness. Before, you point fingers, look at what your actions have done to this fandom first.
I think, it is time we join hands once again, for all the companions of JYJ3, basically all know JYJ as Jaejoong,Yoochun and Junsu, JYJ if there isn’t then there is also no JJ, YC, JS (individual), they are the idol that has fans of different ages, gender, nationality, language, social economy and others. Let’s get rid of every indiviualism and make peace, I’m as myself also apologize for Jaeharem becauseI was too sensitive with your excessive love for Jae, but I realise it is part of the expression of a sense of love. Once again sorry, and best wishes for peace has always been with us at JYJ3. Let’s greet tomorrow a better and more peaceful, hope all of you, my friends can all be wise and mature to deal with this problem
You are a little bit too sensitive. The Jaeharem are really hurt from this incident, let them vent their frustration in JYJ3 family site. It’s ok.
Actually, as a Jae bias myself, I think we owe it to Jaejoong & JYJ to calm down this issue as quickly as possible, for JYJ’s sake, for the sake of C-Jes & beyondmonica – cause regardless of any mistakes made they don’t deserve the hate fest they are getting over all this, & the entire fandom. Vent privately if you still need too, but please don’t continue to inflame this issue & make it worse by venting publicly, because it just re-starts the fire all over again, esp as there are many bias fans in JYJ3 itself who might take offense. Think twice before you post – do you really want too continue fracturing & tearing the fandom apart because you want to spit out your anger publicly, no matter how justified you feel that anger is?
“Actually, as a Jae bias myself, I think we owe it to Jaejoong & JYJ to calm down this issue as quickly as possible, for JYJ’s sake, for the sake of C-Jes & beyondmonica – cause regardless of any mistakes made they don’t deserve the hate fest they are getting over all this, & the entire fandom. ”
If only everyone would JUST LISTEN TO SAPPHIRE this once and do what she’s suggested I would be so grateful and relieved and JYJ would benefit so enormously! Tearing up the fandom over this foolishness is SERVING THE INTERESTS OF SM.
You are right! Lets all calm down and pray for the unity of JYJ fandom. Thank you.
I am trying to defend Jeneration for she is smarter than me and has more info than me, but I can’t stand it when you are acting like she is stirring something into chaos.
Jeneration is living in South Korea and has been proving us with information. That is what she was doing with her comment above, providing information. Does information bite? Yes, because the truth might shake what we think as the truth.
CJes indeed is trying their best, but what is keeping them from answering JFU? If it is indeed their privileges to not answering or giving away any information like some members said here, then why did CJes bother replying PYFU?
U used to follow Jeneration on Twitter and had a respect on her and it is over now…..
What does that info give to the whole problem but your personal preferences against Jeneration. You deliberately informing all that Jeneration is not as she used to be. You are so unbelievable!
If you are so wise by asking others to stay on focus on JYJ and get rid of any ill intention, then you must start with yourself.
Typo: I am not trying to defend
Eh? I don’t live in SK, left there 5 years ago ; _;
-.- wow, fans. just wow. you guys wowed me more than sm does sometimes. congrates.
like we shouldnt blame all chunsas for the mistakes of some extremes, shouldnt we do the same to cjes? dont blame the whole company for the mistake of one staff. cjes is on our side, however lame their customer service may be.
sadly I can see it, but I know for sure the bashing is been really crude
how people expect fans not to get mad or not to feel hurt.
When other anti fans (hotels, SM stans) bash JYJ we make sure to control those rumors and to fight the antis. Why are they acting like this is any different, I dont understand
TO ALL :
Please read carefully JYJ3 note above :
Dear Readers :
” The purpose of this post is to SHARE information, and debunk malicious rumours being spread by certain fans.”
Why are some of you shutting down @Jeneration? How can we see the problem if we cover our eyes and ears, Everybody has an equal right to share each thought and sentiments. I presume we are all matured and open minded, why can’t we handle unfavorable information, and if you really want unity in this fandom, I think the best way is to respect each other, we should learn to LISTEN TO OTHERS, not shutting down and brand anyone who has different views from you as someone with malicious intent. Acting too mighty and self righteous over others is not a good formula for a peaceful discussion.
“TO ALL : Please read carefully JYJ3 note above : Dear Readers : ” The purpose of this post is to SHARE information, and debunk malicious rumours being spread by certain fans.” Why are some of you shutting down @Jeneration?”
Kris, my good and valued friend – it’s not that we are refusing to acknowledge others’ viewpoints. (Well, maybe I should only speak for myself here.) I can assure you, my eyes and ears have been open for the last several days. I have heard all sides of this debate and btw have been proud of the rational discourse on this subject that I have found almost without exception here on JYJ3. But now, conclusions are being drawn. I have certainly drawn my own. I’ve expressed my views probably entirely too many times here already because it grieves me so badly that this fandom is experiencing such an attack on its solidarity and AT THIS MOST AUSPICIOUS TIME because of this colossal misinterpretation and the taking as gospel the ravings of ONE anonymous fan.
Honestly, I feel that we all need to take a step back and realize that after TWO YEARS of waiting, the verdict for the case with SM is coming down in six days from now (by my western calendar, today being the 13th.) Can we all just wait and if anything steel ourselves for that day… after ALL this time?
I hear you @lili,
I’ve spent a lot of emotion on this topic, maybe I should take your advice to step back,
cool down (and watch Jaejoong’s latest pics.)
OMG really, in 6 days. We need a prayer circle for JYJ and this verdict. See, this is why we can’t take our eyes of the prize and allow ourselves to be distracted by antis and haters, who want to split us apart.
but I’m not stepping back with what I said,
each one of us has a right to be heard, we should learn to listen to each other, outright shutting down and branding people are very unhealthy for our so called JYJ family.
Darling sis!! Always so wise. I think we all can wait for the court to reach the ending and read the verdict for the already-too-long case and take a step back.
I also wish for CJes to at least be fair in their works. If they can answer PYFU, they surely don’t need to waste the long breathing in giving JFU the same treatment.
Mianhae sis… we are indeed stupid if we let antis distracted us from our family, but as we can see on above post, the matter now is about CJes being reluctant in their action towards JFU. What our family is doing to us is the question here.
Great! It’s good for fans to read what really happen.
Whatever it is, I hope people remember that it’s not Jae vs Yoochun vs Junsu.
It’s us, with JYJ, against antis, which includes those acgae-s! (I’ll not even call them fans)
And I hope fans know this IS happening, esp when Jae has his activities.
Pls remember that it’s not always unicorns and roses and it’s not also that our only enemy is SM/Avex.
It’s also those crazy antis and acgaes that need to be stopped.
I second that sis.
And if we depend Jaejoong, it is because something bad befallen Jaejoong, not because we do not love Chun and Su.
Depending and want justice for Jaejoong is totally different with loving JYJ as a group.
close their account twitter!
and sign their ad spam! >:-(
is all fault of that stupid
How is it all fault of c-jes ceo? Was he in PYC/JJ fansites or in China? Has he said or done anything to start and spread it? It is all fans fault, yet they try to feign innocence. Maybe it is time that admins of 1-member-sites step into their responsibility and ban/discourage hateful comments and cool the heads of the most noisy ones, distancing the site/fandom from the actions of those few freaks. The collateral damage done so far is far too big to continue in “wanting a justice”, “revenge” or “clearing a name” for their bias. We call it “to spill a child together with dirt water from a bathtube” in my country. Chose your battles and enemies wisely.
guys, pity him. he didnt mean those things to happen. are we as low as sm? i think not.
” Maybe it is time that admins of 1-member-sites step into their responsibility and ban/discourage hateful comments and cool the heads of the most noisy ones, distancing the site/fandom from the actions of those few”
I think that might be a wise move on the part of the Yuchun fansites – to monitor themselves a little better and declare the acgaes “non-fans” and unwelcome to post malicious things about any of the members of JYJ. It seems that these acgaes have gotten way out of hand because they’ve been allowed a home and a forum on some of these YC sites. It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to do a little housekeeping and usher OUT the obvious Haters from our fandom after this.
i dont know there is case like this, quite shocking! we are family, the 3 of them and us are family, please stay strong together and respect each other
so tired of fandom nowaday >”< don't we have enough obstacles ???? Please !!!!
Seriously, a bunch of grown people acting like kids. Grow up and let’s focus on JYJ. If half the people who are out there crying for blood, supported JYJ’s productions with not just their angry tweets (rolls eyes), but with their resources, this fandom will be a bigger force to reckon with.
this is what i’m appealing all along at this fandom. be understanding, considerate, patient of each other. let us not be fast at criticism, be open-minded and read words carefully before putting meaning. it’s how we express that we are sometimes misunderstood but again, it’s not always being careless, thoughtless, maybe one doesn’t mean things to be that way in the first place. let us always give others the benefit of the doubt, and if some ways a fan is mislead/sarcastic/narrowed or whatever, we can guide, we can encourage, let’s give first a hug instead of spanking.
i have my bias but i love JYJ as a whole, as a team and their brotherhood and i want to continue learn from them. let’s spread love instead, please.
i wasn’t even aware of this. @_@
please everybody…let’s just always believe in the 3.
i cant believe we fell to this trap omg i hope this stupidity goes away and even though am a jaejoong bias i wouldnt fucking stand any bad mouthing of our yoochuni and junsu……….. its self destructing these anits can burn in hell ……………… we have been strong with all the bullshit which been spread ever sense the boys left SM , why can’t we get through this too ……. i will forever love my JYJ and try to protect them even when am so far far away ………. and to all these dumb antis i hope our fandom won’t fall for stupid rumors anymore as the article says do we need more drama that we oready have the answer is no ……. so damn lets get hold of our selfs and act responsibly
I love all 3 of our boys and will support their activities…be it group or solo…cos’ they truly deserves our support. So i-fans and k-fans (whichever bias you support)…let’s not fight among each other anymore. ok?
omg…what happen?? im so sad to hear this news…we are family…
I’m confused too..i visit this site like almost everyday but never know about it at all..but it look serious..but i guess this issue only involving fight btween fans only..not the real YC & JJ..or myluvly JS..
I’m with JFU for this.
even if my bias is junsu i still wanna know too..
Who is JFU?
It stands for Jaejoong Fan Union. It is composed of about 6 major fan clubs or so. (not sure of how many exactly, but the aggregate number of fans is quite large.)
Jaejoong Fan Union (BaiduJJ Bar, CielJJ, DC KimJaejoong Gallery, Herose, HeroWings, Melitehero, PrinceJJ, SuperheroJJ, Wasure, WorldClassJJ – in alphabetical order)
such a freaky situation.. again n again. those acgaes… do it n do it even IN THIS TIME which my lovely jun-chan doing his solo work n effort n be acknowledge n n my poor JJ n chunnie efforts also n to THOSEs who speak bad abt their agency. why can u jst jugde to ur self to be in their situation. u think all can be manage easily.
30 cfs wow even lee seung gi wasnt offer that , wonder where they get these weird informations
I´m afraid it was a provocation, if from inner or outside fandom is irrelevant now. The sad and important thing is all that followed it. Are we so easily to be trolled? Sigh.
I still can’t believe that all this started from a random, ANONYMOUS poster. Blame lies on those who carried what that poster said and spread it and those who then reacted to that rumor, by creating an even bigger second round of rumors.
everyone looking from their bias..so do i
but this time is too much for me to handle, why have to be like this ?
this is sad, JYJ case between SM is not over yet those acgae adding another problem.
why we have to fight each other …..please guys dont u forget who is our real enemy?
i hope this case never ruin their future career ….
Uuggh this is why I prefer to be in the shadow nowadays. So disapponted in some fans. First of all, jaejoong, yoochun, and junsu needs JYJ to succeed, why? Because if they don’t stay together and prove that they can do it without SM, it means they loose to the pressure. Second, why can’t they favor JYJ cf more than individual cf? In my other fandom, a member agreed to do dramas,if only his group could record the soundtracks. That is normal. Why? Because he wants his group to succeed. That will takes us back to point #1.
Lastly, please don’t make me laugh, who do they think they are asking other members to apologize with something that has no evidence in the first place? Yes your support is very crucial to your bias. But it doesn’t mean you own them. Do you think by harassing cjes and their staff could help your case? Try and stop to think for a while how lucky each jyj members are having e cjes and staff to want to work with them,knowing half of the industry in korea probably is to scared to even be involved with them.
Like I always said,couldn’t care less for the indvidual fans not supporting jyj,but don’t go around bashing other members. Ughh annoying.
I second that.
Can this be translated to others language and share it.
OH wow. I didnt know that this issue became this serious. This saddens me to read first thing in the morning…
JYJ and the fandom have too many other obstacles that we need to worry about, and letting something like this get in the way will cause more problems…
I hope that the JYJ fandom will rise up in the occasion and prove to those stupid acgae people or whatever they are called, that we will stand strong, TOGETHER, no matter who are biases are. JYJ does not exist as a ONE member group (i mean it wouldnt be called JYJ…duh) but as THREE members working as one.
Of course there will be individual activities, it’s hard not to have them especially when the they are banned from performing in certain places/ situations/ events/ etc. But Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yoochun perform all those invididual activities to help promote JYJ, not just themselves!!
Forgive me for sounding rude. But what the f*ck fans have to do with what kind of offers the boys’ agency accepts?! How the hell do they think that they have a say in this AT ALL?! What madness is this? I’m laughing my ass off here right now. They demand Jaejoong to give back the CFs to Yoochun?? Demand to be informed of the reasons? Imagine you *demand* Madonna to do a CF because you say so. Or BonJovi to do something because you feel like it… Ridiculous. Korean fandom is strange and fearsome sometimes although I give them credit for their dedication to their stars. Somebody said earlier how easier it was to be a fan before. You went to the concert, listened to the music, and were generally happy when you heard something new about your favorit singer. Now it’s like political machinations all over the place… *sighs*
And by the way, about the “pitting fans against each other within the fandom”. There’s a saying in my country: you can’t chase those who won’t bother run…
ekeke… u said everything i was thinking up in my mind.. why hate others when you like one? its not like JJ commit any crime… be nice… like/love the one you adore & leave the rest alone… they must have reasons for everything… lets all have faith.. 🙂
this!! I couldn’t say it any better!
cheers!!! my friend… you’re not the only one on that boat…
Totally agreed….i was also laughing about the demand to give the CF’s back… ^^
“what the f*ck fans have to do with what kind of offers the boys’ agency accepts?! How the hell do they think that they have a say in this AT ALL?! What madness is this? I’m laughing my ass off here right now. They demand Jaejoong to give back the CFs to Yoochun?? Demand to be informed of the reasons? Imagine you *demand* Madonna to do a CF because you say so. Or BonJovi to do something because you feel like it… Ridiculous. ”
Totally agree wit you!!!
“What madness is this? I’m laughing my ass off here right now. They demand Jaejoong to give back the CFs to Yoochun?? Demand to be informed of the reasons?”
Oh, it’s ridiculous alright. When I first heard about it that was my same reaction – this is a totally wrong-headed stampede straight over the cliff. I guess it shows us that Social Media can be both a blessing and a curse. And the moral of the story: You gotta THINK, people, before you run off wildly and start spreading rumors after you’ve heard something sensational and negative like this. You’ve gotta THINK long and hard about it before you do anything.
LOL Nikki!! That’s correct sweetie!
you put in words what i have been feeling since I first read of this .. the words ”WE DEMAND” is totally making me cringe … fans are fans .. c-jes, Jae, chun and Su don’t owe any of us explanations with the way they handle their relationship with each other .. and the way they handle their careers .. there is a fine line between being supporters and meddlesome, interfering obsessed fanatics .. this is not healthy anymore .. i hope the narrow-mindedness in the fandom will soon stop
seriously, do you think chun will think negatively of his hyung JJ or vice versa? these three have gone through so much .. this is issue is quite frustrating ..
I’m just going to add my “amen” to this. *shakes head at the whole crazy business*
let’s support jyj as a group so with their solo activities.i love the 3 of them.hope this issue will end soon….i miss jyj.
I don’t know how did lead to this really,chunsa going dm dm about YC rejecting cf deal then PFU then when next morning I wake up Jaeherms & chunsa are on war??????????? what the hell happened
since the first an artist reject CF deal because he has his reason why fan butt in over his decision,is YC a kid? he is 25 year old men he can manage on his own,believe & follow him.
about blaming on group or Jae I didn’t see in my Tline may be because I have decent T line
Then fansite admins,I know doing a fansite mean they are dedicated that much to their bias & I know they are just little girls but they really did cat fight,they should know their words stand for their fansite & there are readers depend on them no matter how they say is their personal account.They should be the one who control but they are fighting in front??
Language is the problem what I fan get is translations we can’t know the depth of it then is better be don’t get ourselves into it.
I think is my fault why does I like korean star when i don’t understand korean.
My friend used to say u are safe in K fandom if u don’t go near TVXQ or JYJ they are blood thirsty,I always debate with her.What should I say when she said “see when they got no one to fight they are fighting each other”is a regret some over bias fans can effect whole fandom image.Hope JYJ fandom comrades don’t go down by this stupid thing
“see when they got no one to fight they are fighting each other”
ohh, it’s my biggest fear, i hope we can prevent that
-.- this… i actually pitied the staff in mention. he prolly never intended this to happen.
fans are fans, jyj is jyj, cjes is cjes. we should know our place.
Agree with u..why fans even bother to decide what Chun supposed to do or JJ not supposed to do??? sometimes fans are overreacting..let JYJ & Cjes do their job..no need to give them the instruction..our job is to support them in a healthy way..if they do drama, watch it..if they do CF, support it..if they made a solo album, buy it..(& dont forget to spazz at YT..Xiaphaws really busy there..) 🙂
what?!! i’m missing out… wait for me fellow xiahpaws~ damn, i wish i can just skip work and spazz on tarantallegra all day dammit!
Yes..lets join to spazz there..it really good for your ‘health’ 🙂
Reading again what these acgaes have done is just upsetting. I have no further words for them. They must be so proud for causing this mess to “help” or “support” their bias. As if Yoochun would be proud of their actions. I think this incident is able to cause confusion and rift among JYJ fandom because it was coming from within, initiated by so called “fans” instead of outright antis. What was done was (unfortunately) done. What’s left is damage control and how we move on from this still united. Arguing over this matter is tiring tbh. I hope it’ll die down soon.
I agree with the other comments here that the fandom needs to stay stronger than ever to NOT let anything like this tear us apart. If we end up turning on each other, then JYJ falls…. and that is not want we want to happen.
THINK about who the REAL ENEMY is in this situation. If anyone answers by pointing at any JYJ fan (i do not consider acgae people as fans) then they are completely wrong.
We should be reminded that our beloved Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yoochun are brothers. They love each other and im 100% sure that they will not let anything like this ruin the relationship they’ve built since they’ve met each other. And so we fans should do the same and not let stupid rumors ruin the relationship we’ve all worked so hard to build the past few years.
Thank you JYJ3 Team,
This is the problem if some so called fans are blinded with their selfishness, insecurities, jealousy, ignorance and arrogance.
If it’s just a feud between fangirls, who cares, but the fact they are dragging Jaejoong’s name to the drain, then that’s the big issue.
Shall we just wait for the fairy godmother for her magic wand so everything just be cleared out? Who will help clear up the mess or we’ll just pretend as if nothing happens.
CJes is our fairy godmother now. Let’s see what CJes is going to do now… I hope they do not wait too long in replying JPU. Cross our fingers!
Oh & thank you so much to the JYJ3team for shedding light in this situation.
gosh.. i really cant believe it when i first heard it..
i once wrote on my blog when 1bias fans attacked another 1bias fans.. our fight is not towards each other. but to those who tried to broken JYJ n make them dissapear from Ent world. dont our enemies are many enough, why must break the unity n attack each other. havent they thought that if this fanwar was reported in news sites, it will harm JYJ themselves.
i really cant understand those people. they know that all JYJ members are care n respect n value each other. CHun ‘scolded’ Su when he just twit happy bday to him while Jae called him on his bday in Bali. Su twitted Chun n said he miss him. Chun said how he proud of his 2 members. Jae keep saying how he love his 2 members n never forget to twitted on their bdays or when one of them won an award or finished any projects. Jae involved in Junsu’s solo album. these 3 keep showing how the other members are important for them. why cant people see it? why must attack someone that your bias loves, cares n respects? it just like a child asking his/her siblings to choose between their mom n dad, while they are still together n loves each other. how selfish is that? dont they know that this kind of thing could harm JYJ’s relationship? maybe Chun n Jae could feel awkward toward each other.
it is really sad, when someone attacked JYJ with baseless rumours either its from news sites, sasaengs, etc, fans keep saying they will believe to the boys until they say or confirm things. but when someone who said they got info from JYJ ‘manager’, suddenly many are believe it, forgot to take a step back n think, ‘is this news/rumours are real?’
not only that, they also attacked Cjes n beyondmonica. i know some fansite just demand an confirmation or whatever, made by Cjes to clear things up. but many also attacked them. do they forget that Cjes have done what they could in such a little oppurtunity? like Japan concerts? or SK concerts? we know how hard for them to have a concert in SK n Japan. but still they managed to did it. or how about albums? despite so many recording company n distributor cancelled n refused to work with JYJ, we still got The Beginning, In heaven n Junsu’s Tarantallegra. despite they arent big company, they managed to gave us JYJ world concerts. a trully world concerts from Asia, USA n Europe. they done things that even big companies havent done it before. yes, they arent perfect, and sometime so slow to do a damage control. but they willing to learn even listen to fans. fans asked for JYJ Youtube channel, they gave it to us plus a fb account. ifans keep demanding for international memberships, they acknowledge ifans, but they even still struggled with their SK n Japan fans, 2 countries in which JYJ live n work to. be patient. remember even SM need time with TVXQ5 memberships. and not all ent company willing to ‘listen’ to fans. SME never even really listens to fans’ demands. not many artists PR willing to answers fans question, just like beyondmonica did. i agree with someone who said that just because Cjes willing to hear us, many fans seems forget than they also have policies to hold on as company. they cant answered all fans’ demands when those demands are clashed with their policies. as company, they have obligation n rules to follows. and remember, because of SME, not many are willing to work with JYJ. but Cjes have been with JYJ from the beginning they left SME. just like someone pointed, beyondmonica left Prain to work with JYJ. she could just stayed with Prain, a much bigger n stable company n didnt neet to faces fans’ wraths n bashes toward her. but she chose to work with JYJ n work hard with any limited opportunities n chances she could have.
wow, this rambling been too long..
i just… can we all just united to support them? we dont have many time until the boys enlisted. we still have SME n AVEX lawsuits to fight for, injustice of broadcasting n music world both in SK n Japan. the boys still have to fights those wars n injustice acts more than us, fans, they have to face it everyday. they dont need to add a fanwar between their own member’s fans in their already much problems. can we just stop complaining, attacking n bashing one member or people who work with them? during TVXQ5 many celebs were afraid of Cassies’ if they seems too closed or do things Cassies thought as ‘harrasment’ to the boys. they are afraid of cassies bashing n attacking them that they have to make sure they wont get attack when the boys were in their shows (remember HyoRi during FO season 1 or all eps of Xman in which TVXQ guested?). please, let just hold our self a little. give out advice(s) to JYJ staffs are way better than attacked them while we dont even know what they have to fight n face everyday. and antis, SM, Avex n those people who wanna see JYJ destroyed, would be happy n laughing if they know that the fandom that been supporting JYJ are crumbled n fight to each other.
Thanks admins for this useful info; on my be half, I stay away from rumors and the ones that spread it like a disease and don’t want to be contaminated with it. Love and respect JYJ as 3 and I know for a fact that they won’t betray each other in amyway but love, respect and support each other, so shameful on those that think differently. I stay firm on my support for them and in anyway will let no one change my opinions on each one of them….JYJ FIGHTING!
Meant to say “anyway”
We still have a bigger picture to see, that common enemies which are SM/AVEX/ANTIS, most probably laughing their asses now!
Really cannot cure stupid..
I believe in uri JYJ more than anything else.
Thank you Admin…At least I can understand the whole thing now…………..
I have been lurking on twitter and here reading about this fanwars and I can’t simply understand why did such a thing blew up into such a big deal.
I don’t get how can anybody be a Chunsa and hate on JJ (I’m talking about the on-member-only chunsas who based on JJ).
I’m a Chunsa too but I love JJ and Junsu too, the very thing that attracted me to YC/JYJ wasn’t just him only, but the bond and friendship they have with one another.
There really didnt need to have a comparison bashing one another and saying one is not worth for another. All 3 of them are incredibly talented people who CAN and COULD have gone solo if they had wanted (all 3 have the talent and fanbases big enough), but the fact that they stayed on with one another despite all tells alot.
JJ and JS is practically family to YC already, and when they bashed JJ, didnt they think that it would hurt YC too?? Hating on JJ is like hating on YooHwan and we all know how protective YC of the people he loves. When the “chunsas” “protect” him by asking JJ to apologise, didnt they take in to consideration how YC would have felt??
Even if the rumors are true (though I highly doubt), am I the only one who doesnt want him to take on 30 CFs ? I would like him to be resting for now, taking on only things that he can handle. Even if there are/were any CF conficts between him n JJ, I believe they are mature enough to settle things between themselves without the need to reveal the situation to us fans, who will always only remain as fans.Fans really need to stop being over protective of their biases and let them live their life. The minute they stepped out of SM proved that they are more than able to state their opinions and take a stand.
I wished that JJ fans didnt file a letter to CJes but I really don’t blame them for being defensive. SIgh.
To JJ fans and biases, I would like to say sorry for the actions of those chunsas who started these rumors and harming the his reputation. I really hope the chinese fans of both members would come into understanding soon.
Sigh. Sorry for the long rant. I used to wished that YC read the twitter messages fans send him or even acknowledge that he reads them but now I don’t anymore. I just hope he doesn’t stop tweeting like like time when he gave the excuse of losing his twitter password just so he could stay away from the rumors on tweeter.
@cloudy90… love your rant, and agree with it 100%!
I’m a Chunsa as well… and I like Jae and Su as well! They are the ones that Chun loves like family.. so hurting these 2 are like hurting Chun himself.. I just don’t get how some ‘Chunsas’ think, and be able to spread rumours like this..
Guess this is the ugly side of fandom.. As fans, we need to be moderate and not be too overprotective. At the end of it, these celebrities are just humans after all, and they have their own lives to live and decisions to make… We, fans, do not have the right to interfere in EVERY part of their lives. Let’s just RESPECT, LOVE and SUPPORT them!
You said: I wished that JJ fans didnt file a letter to CJes but I really don’t blame them for being defensive. SIgh.
Sorry… but JFU was not being depensive. They are being practical. They sent the official letters after trying to get answers from CJes but neglected. Please read the letter to get clearer info.
Typo – defensive
You’re right on everything you said, hope all this BS stop once and for all. I look down on those that think they know it all specially on how C-Jes and JYJ are handling what is good or not for one another, they don’t need to explain to anyone their do’s and dont’s. If they say anything it will be use as self defense from this ridiculous “fans”
i agree 100% with u @cloudy90…
stay strong jyj oppa…
thanks alot, my Twitter Tline these days is holy crap…always have sth related to this stupid problems…by all of language made me very worried…
They, JYJ, have enough of problems, like block on TV and etc…Fans cant create one just by stupid and selfish wishes.
JYJ love each other, and i’m sure that they all know the best ways to themselves after many walls they broke together in yrs.
Bias fan, please, you can love your bias but please respect the others two, JYJ made it together…They ALWAYS work hard, ALL OF THEM, they’re very precious, please!!!!!
thanks admin for sharing the info…
I could not fathom the reason behind, WHY would fans involve themselves in financial deals of the 3.
JYJ themselves have been through alot! they wouldn’t stick to each other if 1. likes to take advantage of the other 2. don’t trust each other 3. doesn’t know how to share/help one another
We fans should always remember, we are not their financial advisers, nor are we their managers nor are we their life planners.
WE SUPPORT THEM BUT WE DON’T OWN THEM. 🙂
You said all =)
I don’t understand these “fans”… Yoochun had harsh times this year with dramas, CF, his father… He’s exhausted, we all know this fact.. So shouldn’t he rest a little ? Have nothing in his schedule would be a great thing for him.. just my opinion.
And I love the last sentences of this announcment “Do you really believe that attacking one member will help your bias? The great losers of this battle are JYJ and their fans.. You are only achieving what Antis, SM and AVEX have failed all this time to accomplish… Kill JYJ and their fandom. Please reconsider your behavior.”
This is SO TRUE ! As a JYJ fans, we have to support the boys and their work, not fight each other. Of course, mainly of us have bias, favourite member in the group.. but we don’t have to prefer our bias and denying the other members.
(I apologize about my bad english><)
WE SUPPORT THEM BUT WE DON’T OWN THEM
yes. indeed. fans seems to forget this when they keep telling n demanding Cjes to do what fans want, without think back, why cjes cant do it or why they wont do it. it seems fans suddenly became another board member of Cjes =D
If there is any rating to those comment above, I will give 10 rating for @ masi
“WE SUPPORT THEM BUT WE DON’T OWN THEM.” so true…
there are so many types of crazy fangirls:
3.The WTF! fangirls
yeah its normal to dream or imagine about you being with your bias/idol or even marrying him in your dreams. but remember that their is only 1% in this world that you will have that chance so always think the reality
but as JYJ fan, i choose exceptional chategory, why?? because i’m mad with SME and Avex when they destroy JYJ dream to reach succes in Entertainment industry, maybe…. if they already free from banned and win on lawsuit, i’ll release them and stop being fangirl
“WE SUPPORT THEM BUT WE DON’T OWN THEM.”
THIS!!!! Thank you. 😉
Hi Mummy-hen 🙂
“WE SUPPORT THEM BUT WE DON’T OWN THEM.”
So many of us say this over, & over, & over again, ad nauseum, but obviously there are some “fans” who just don’t want to accept that fact. I’m starting to think we need our JYJ frying pans to bash this into the skulls of these particular people. Or maybe katana’s would be better – slice open their brains & force feed them this fact until it seeps into their DNA – then they might actually accept it.
Very upsetting…. very upsetting. And all the time I am thinking “SM must be having the most gleeful week they’ve had in months.”
A sodden thought if there ever was one.
“I’m starting to think we need our JYJ frying pans to bash this into the skulls of these particular people.”
OR, we could ask Dr. Jin to take on a few more head cases for brain surgery. You know, extend the length of the drama! 😉
“OR, we could ask Dr. Jin to take on a few more head cases for brain surgery. You know, extend the length of the drama! ”
Dr Jin would have a brain aneurysm all his own if he was naive enough to take on the crazies in this fandom.
@Mummy-hen @ Lilibaiyu
“OR, we could ask Dr. Jin to take on a few more head cases for brain surgery. You know, extend the length of the drama! ”
Dr Jin would have a brain aneurysm all his own if he was naive enough to take on the crazies in this fandom.
Thanks for the information…
PLEASE remember that we support JYJ… even both of them are in individual activities but, they are still one in JYJ… You can see maybe SM AVEX ANTIS are happy to see this problem, right, so please support JYJ YOOCHUN JAEJOONG JUNSU 🙂
Reblogged this on JYJ Philippines.
so sad~~~ worry about Jaejung, Yuchun and Junsu… they are close brothers…we are family… don’t hurt each other… please
thank JYJ3 team for informing us fully the situation.After so many incidents caught by acgae fans,I’ve learnt to keep my head cold and judge things properly. If those incidents continue (sadly it will),who suffers the most will be JYJ and ppl around them. Hope some certain fans can set aside their selfishness and give true support to their bias.
why can’t these fans see that they are also hurting the person they are supporting like this
without jaejoong, there is no junsu and no yoochun
without yoochun, there is no junsu and no jaejoong
without junsu, there is no jaejoong and no yoochun
TOGETHER they make JYJ !!!!
they have been trough so much TOGETHER, they find their strengh in the OTHER member
i’m sorry i’m saying this, but if you can’t see THIS you’re no true fan according to me
jyj is a family and so are their fans !
My little confession: Maybe I ´m Jae biased, but I love all 3. I stay overnight to catch Junsu´s fancams and I recommend to watch SKKS and RTP to every kdramafan I meet online. I enjoy their group activities as well as their solo jobs. I feel blessed to be fan of this exceptional group, right now the only “kpop” I ´m interested in. And many thanks to admins of this site for all the news/pics/videos shared. But now I feel tired and embarassed by the actions of other fans, including Jae-biased ones, the twitter is like a battlefield now. Maybe I will take a break for like a week and then see where the fandom stands. Only god knows how many fans left altogether in the last few days and will never come back to JYJ.
Hopefully those fans who leave the fandom won’t actually leave JYJ, & will still love & support them.
*hugs* If you do take that break, I hope you come back soon.
Honestly, I am getting worried that our fandom is being represented by the brash, rude, selfish, self centered and hypocritical factions of the fandom. Their loud voices is drowning out the voices of the TRUE FANS of JYJ. Fans who do not want to be involved in the drama and the fighting, simply go into lurking mode or disappear completely. You are one of the oldest supporter of this site, look around and ask yourself what has changed. If even this microcosm of our fandom has changed so much, I am worried about the future 😦
At JYJ3 we’ve weathered some really vicious fan wars before & generally each one divides JYJ only fans, OT5 fans, JYJ & Homin as two separate groups fans, shipping/couple fans, benevolent one bias only fans, & acgae fans even more. We get past them & move on in time, on the surface, but I think for many bitterness still lingers, & often erupts when an issue like this comes up. Which ultimately isn’t good for JYJ – with the blocking still active, they need their fans support as much as ever. (On a tangent, I think this is one of the many reasons why the guys are focusing so much on acting & musicals. If they can build solid skills & a good reputation as actors, they won’t have to rely so much on a potentially fickle fanbase to keep them employed simply as idol stars who are guaranteed to draw an audience of devoted fans, & the profits from the acting & musicals can help go towards their singing career. As someone pointed out in ODP, part of the reason they are doing so much solo work is because so much of the stuff they try to do as JYJ is blocked, so the solo work keeps JYJ’s name & image in the public eye, (& helps bring in more money so JYJ can fund more concerts, albums, DVD’s etc), even when JYJ’s work itself isn’t.)
As for the fandom, I think sadly this particular problem with acgae fans is going to grow. Ironically, & sadly, by doing so much solo work for the sake of JYJ as a whole, some fans twist it to convince themselves that their bias wants to go solo & that the other two are holding him back. How so many so-called fans can continually blind themselves to the obvious & deep love, loyalty & friendship Jaejoong, Chunnie & Junsu have for each other absolutely baffles me. As you said, a vocal & often vicious, willfully ignorant minority tarnishes the whole JYJ fandom, & not just the acgae fans, but “fans” across the whole spectrum. But ultimately it’s a microcosm of real life where there are good people, bad people, indifferent people & just outright bat sh*t crazy psycho’s. I don’t know what we can do to change things for the better, or if they even can be changed. One of the most obvious characteristics of the “fans” causing most of the problems is their spectacular ability to refuse to see reality, to listen to reason or to even consider that they aren’t the know-it-all-authority on their soapbox, or God forbid, that they actually don’t own their idol. Trying to talk to them calmly doesn’t seem to work, & trying to get them to change their mind on anything is like asking rain to fall upwards. *shrugs shoulders helplessly* I don’t know what to do, except to continually remind people to keep an open mind, stop & think about where information is coming from & how likely it is to be valid before reacting, & try not to have a knee-jerk reaction of over-defensiveness/protectiveness where your bias is concerned when these attacks come from within the fandom.
As for fans leaving because of the drama, I’m afraid drama seems to be at the very core of fandom life, whether it’s JYJ or anyone else’s fandom. The very nature of being a fan & loving someone brings out the passion in people, for good or for bad. Someone mentioned in ODP that there are still scores of frenzied Angelina Jolie & Jennifer Aniston fans slugging it out in sites & forums about the whole Brad/Angelina/Jennifer thing… >.> So at least we can take some comfort that it’s not just the JYJ fandom alone where this sort of craziness goes on. If fans do choose to leave, I’ll be sad to see them go, but we can’t make them stay. Personally I feel like the responsibility is on us sane & true JYJ fans to continue to vocally & physically show our love & support for JYJ so that we aren’t drowned out by the crazies. It may not be fair, but then life isn’t. I don’t think JYJ owe us anything. After all, we’re the ones who chose to love them. But I do feel that as their fans we owe them our loyalty & protection, esp in the bad times like these. They do what they do as much for their love of us as for their love of performing, & personally I think it’s a pretty lame way of paying them back to cut & run when things get ugly in the fandom. I can’t force that opinion on others, & I do understand that not everyone can handle this sort of discord & ugliness.
*claps* and gives you a salute. Well said.
Love your comment.
If every other fan on the face of the earth decides to abandon JYJ, I’ll still be there with my little sign, “I will always support and love you.”
You said it, sister! HUGS you! I’ll be right there next you and @Lisan with my own little sign:
“Lifetime citizen of the Republic of JYJ: One JYJ, One Fan-Team, One Day at a Time: One World Conquered! In the end, it’s JYJ, ONLY!”
That’s my little chickadee! You nailed it sweetie!
Personally I feel like the responsibility is on us sane & true JYJ fans to continue to vocally & physically show our love & support for JYJ so that we aren’t drowned out by the crazies.
Dammit. I agree with this.
Guess I’m sticking around.
@shappire , Well said ! thank you for voicing this !
in any way, please, if you later feel uncomfortable with any member of this forum, confront to the person personally. privately better (DM/email/whatever).
*this fansite, not forum.
your opinion might be addressed to general public (?) but in any way, if you really feel uncomfortable with any member, confront personally, not by addressing it as general statement. this. has. been. happening. since. a. long. time. ago. and i’m getting tired of “someone is…” “some fans are…” nadda nadda. it’s kinda like talking in someone’s back, except that you’re doing it in public. believe me @ruber, personally i agree with your opinion, but to @all, can you please be more brave and confront personally if you disagree with someone else? that’d be helpful. privately (not in twitter!!, not in fansite) better, if you think your battle would be intense and… what are we calling that? “disrupt the fandom’s harmony”? oh whatever.
please we have enough problems already come on fans!!!!!!!!
i never knew that such rumor is happening in JYJ fandom…
until this was posted by admin…
thanks admin for letting us know..
I guess… at times.. its nicer to be away from other internet sites and just simply lurk here in JYJ3… life is much simple.
Fans of each member(not all but some) who started this must self reflect and think that while they are doing such things that on the other hand Jaejoong,Yoochun and Junsu are texting each other and saying “i love you junsu yah/Yoochunie~!” ” i love you hyung!”
i know, that even though they are now in their mid of their solo activities they are missing each other and texting everyday.. we dont see it but its not for us to always see this kind of stuffs.
who are we to tell them to whom they should apologize to? to decide on what Cf deals should he take?
at the end of the day, we are just fans… I hate to think that we are feeding them and that every actions they made should have our approval. Please, we should not make them our possessions. Let them live freely.
its a blessing that they still exists even with all the blockings. I am thankful for their existence.
Oh man… Silly fans… even though I am Junsu bias… I do try not to become an acgae… they should try it too. If JYJ comes as a package, we should just be thankful and accept it. This fans might end up causing the boys hurt which I think is too much… personal attacks to the individual idols are a no no. 😦 They should know their boundaries…
Please wake up & stop the stupid fan war now. OPEN your eyes big our enemies are SME SME SME SME SME SME SME SMESME…….& AVEX AVEX AVEX AVEX AVEX………….!
if it is so! why he closed his account twitter
and why jj don’t follow 2 of cjes and don’t follow motoro100?
i have seen that also junsu and yuchun don’t follow motoro100!
before jj follow 9 people! then 7! and then 6! what happened?
I ´m not c-jes ceo nor Jae so how could I know what they were thinking?
I can only make a guess. The ceo got probably hunderts/thousands of hate tweets from fans beeing in the middle of a fanwar. If I would be him, I would delete my account too, rather then to read bashing of my person from anonymous people I never met in my life. He is a bussiness person, not a celebrity with a fandom that he tries to stay in contact. I tried to google-translate a few tweets to beyondmonica and even snippets I could understand were so poisonous I just stopped. Poor woman, why do we do that to her?
And why jj unfollowed almost everyone? Maybe because it is a “tradition” that fans tend to bombard all his twitter contacts with the most ridiculous comments, often very harsh? I can imagine that the persons actually asked him to unfollow them to escape from the overboard unwanted attention.
Personally, sometimes I have a suspicion that Jae fans (and antis) are the most extreme ones among jyj/OT5/1member fans. He brings strong reactions from people, in good and in bad way. Sometimes I pity him, I can´t imagine to know that every person I become near in some way, will be hurt at the end. Sasaengs, acgaes, plain antis, yj-shippers, overprotective ones, fans that feel entitled to have an opinion on every aspect of my life my actions and persons around me and are noisy about it. That is a huge burden. He must feel responsible for all negative fan comments done “to get him justice” or “for his protection” received by YC, JS, C-JeS staff, friends, family, bussiness partners… Miracle he haven´t gone insane by now (and just smokes and drinks).
But back to your question. I think Jae considers twitter as more or less only a promotional tool, after the wank and hacker attacts in the past, he is cautious now. For real communication, there is phone, locked kakaotalk account and other private ways. Don´t try to read too much into who he does/doesn´t follow on twitter.
“Personally, sometimes I have a suspicion that Jae fans (and antis) are the most extreme ones among jyj/OT5/1member fans. He brings strong reactions from people, in good and in bad way. Sometimes I pity him, I can´t imagine to know that every person I become near in some way, will be hurt at the end. Sasaengs, acgaes, plain antis, yj-shippers, overprotective ones, fans that feel entitled to have an opinion on every aspect of my life my actions and persons around me and are noisy about it. That is a huge burden. He must feel responsible for all negative fan comments done “to get him justice” or “for his protection” received by YC, JS, C-JeS staff, friends, family, bussiness partners… Miracle he haven´t gone insane by now (and just smokes and drinks).”
I really don’t think that “something” about Jaejoong is the reason why these fucktards do what they do. The Yoochun-acgaes are also extreme boneheaded idiots. They also ran over hills based on a stupid rumor. They also bashed CJeS, the CEO, Monica and Jaejoong. Would that mean that there is just “something” about Yoochun that attracts these psychos? I can’t help but think that no and so why would Jaejoong be the reason these people with no lives do this? People who are STUPID and HATEFUL don’t need an excuse just a target.
I also think that Jaejoong wouldn’t want your pity. No one wants to be pitied not even “sometimes”. Sasaengs aren’t a Jaejoong-phenomena. SNSD, TVXQ, SuJu, 2PM, KARA etc also have sasaengs. Acgaes, (who we can now clearly see infest the JYJ fandom), have their own agendas for all the members not just Jaejoong. Antis discriminate based on first impressions. I have seen antis hate on all the former 5 members because to them they look “gay” or “dumb”. Case in point: The Mirotic mv, Balloons or Junsu’s “Tarantallegra”. LOTS of ignorant haters there. Overprotective fans also exist for any member of any kpop fandom. YJ fans…..I actually think they are more Yunho-biased. Kinda like the Hotel girls. They will not tolerate if you question Yunho’s “impeccable, manly-behavior”. Oh and also they seem to believe he is the best leader EVERRRR! (LOL! I laugh too) Every time Yunho is “close” to some female these bimbos throw a riot of jealousy and use Jaejoong as a shield. Blonde cordi-noona was my favorite. Dear lord the hatred against her! The only calmed down when they saw her in an airport holding hands with a man revealed to be her fiance….otherwise…I would have feared for her safety.
I really think that comment about how he in some way hurts the people close to him is really low. You don’t know his private life and the people who started this mess didn’t think about him or Yoochun before launching their attack. That means there is something wrong with THEM not Jaejoong. As I have said many times; It is the structure of these fandoms and the companies who run them that are the problem not the artists.
Its funny how the whole issue turn against Jae and his fans when they are actually the victims.
“People who are STUPID and HATEFUL don’t need an excuse just a target.”
“I really think that comment about how he in some way hurts the people close to him is really low. You don’t know his private life and the people who started this mess didn’t think about him or Yoochun before launching their attack. That means there is something wrong with THEM not Jaejoong. As I have said many times; It is the structure of these fandoms and the companies who run them that are the problem not the artists.”
YES!! So true.
Why is it our business to read into who he is following or not following. I’m sure he communicates with people he knows other than on twitter. If people believe their twitter accounts are nothing more than fan service, then I have a plot of land in Atlantis to sell.
Also, to those people who keep sending hateful messages to motoro100 (CJeS’ CEO), BeyondMonica (PR agent), grow up. You do know that they are actual human beings too, with feelings and emotions just like the members of JYJ you propose to love.
“then I have a plot of land in Atlantis to sell.”
Hmmmm, I think I can find some swamp land in AZ. We know there’s some in FL, that don’t count. 😉
Hmmmm, I didn’t even know about this. This is just ridiculous. I guess they’re Yoochun bias, but blaming Jaejoong??? Then they’re NOT JYJ fans. Aigooo, I don’t even understand why they did that.
I think its better not to think like that..remember not to blame 1 side only & jump to conclusion..its not helping & just made pepple hurt more..we learn enough right…
Its sad that fans believing such things so easy and spread it without thinking if it’s really true. To involving Cjes as well was not a help either because now it’s such a big disaster. I’m really tired to seeing all this mess created by selfish 1bias fans. I understand this issue must be cleared but I hope people will end their bashing towards beyondmonica. Although she works for Cjes…this mess is not her fault and she is a human being also. I have seen a lot cruel comments send to her and thats not acceptable. This so called fans should have respect and good manners in such matter too. I know that everyone wants to protect their bias but this gives no one the right to hurt others to satisfy oneself. Fans should be respectful to the other JYJ members besides their bias as well. That’s what you should can expect from such fans at least. I don’t think Junsu, Yoochun or Jaejoong would be happy if fans bash his friend/member beside him.
Exactly, I said something similar above. Do this people not understand how embarrassed Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu will be facing these people they have to work with, knowing what their fans are doing to them. beyondmonica, left a job with a big company to support JYJ, when it wasn’t clear whether JYJ would sink or swim.
I fault CJeS and beyondmonica a bit though, they gave fans this arrogance that they are all board members that have a say in JYJ’s private and business dealings. If they had taken an SM approach and just not cared from the start, then these “fans” would know their place.
I really agree with the above to comments!
Some fans are to selfish to think that they have a saying in the decisons JYJ makes although everyone knows you can’t make their schedule plan. If they would look at other entertainers around the world they would see that this artists choose their own work without interferences from their fans. Why is it that only in this fandom people seems to think they could force their own wishes on their artist. I hate such selfishness. JYJ choose their work very carefully and for their own satisfaction because they know themselfes the best and what they can and what not. No one has the right to force them to do something what they don’t want only because fans think they know what is the best for them and in which role they want the members to see…
Citizens of Republic of JYJ, JYJ3 Family
We need to come together and continue praying for the our men (JYJ).
Thanks for the clarifications, admin. *scratches head* I still don’t see what the fuss is all about. Since I don’t do twitter, I find this whole saga unbelievably ridiculous. Fans need to step away from this ruckus to allow for some much needed cooling-down time. It’s a shame to see that for a supposedly mature fandom, there are still way too many gullible fools, and immature/ interfering meddlers so hellbent on protecting their biases, they forget that JYJ are grown men that are battle-tested industry veterans and know what’s best for them. I trust our boys and am sure that they and their allies confer with each other on every single business decision. Ultimately, their decisions is none of our business.
JYJ and CJes have enough on their plates already, they don’t need deal with fans’ petty disputes. Support JYJ’s activities, but I am on the camp that hope CJes will continue to ignore this. I don’t care that if left unattended by Cjes, there will be residual misunderstandings and hurt feelings. This latest fiasco is one of many that has plagued JYJ since debut and I am sure more will arise in the future. We fans just have to try our best to resolve this amongst ourselves, but if the air is not completely cleared–tough–fans just have to deal with it. Life must move on. We just need to remember that despite our differences, we are all here to support one or all members of JYJ, .
I agree with the admin that we need to strive to become a group of more intelligent and and responsible fans able to exercise better judgements of information fed to us via unofficial sources. Unless the source has proof that he/she was that fly on the wall, one should take the claim with a grain of salt. Furthermore, flying off the handle at the slightest provocation and spreading the negative rumor is not the smartest move and only serve to sow more discord. Thus far, most of us here have been vigilant against tactics employed by enemies from without used to harm JYJ and our fandom; but after this, I think we should also practice the same precaution with enemies from within–most notably the acgaes. In the end, I am optimistic that our fandom will weather this latest storm and will emerge stronger and smarter.
i hope our jyj more strong than before..bcoz ur jyj n im ur fan.. *apa deh bgt eng gw
why are these happening? i’d like to say more but it might aggravate the situation… i’ll just pray that every JYJ fans be loyal to the group not only to their biases, let them think of JYJ first before anything… we’ve already misses 5 voices if this will continue will gonna lose the 3 left … before they become an actor/model they were singers and JYJ love to sing more than anything, let’s not give them misery, they’ve already suffered and still suffering, PLEASE STOP!
Wth with this war things! We supposed to be family, im really embrassed as jyj fans, i bet avex and sme laughing at us when this happened! And i hope cjes became more handfull to handle this kind of problem in the future, i must admit cjes working too slow in the past
hpe cjes offcial cn do smethng..n clear thngs..
is it too mch to ask.a clarfcation stetmnt so evry one spclly jaejoong’s nme wil b clrd…
‘Fans’ who do stuff like this are seriously deluded. As admin post says, such actions ultimately hurt JYJ. The 3 support, trust and love each other. True fans would just cheer them on. Unfortunately, fandom has its ugly, warped side where some really are under the illusion that they own the celebrity they are obsessed with. I guess these are folks who have no life. Sad.
The one big inspiration of JYJ for me is the strength of their bond, and their courage to realise their own dreams. It would be wonderful if fans across the board would be motivated to find meaning in their own lives as inspired by the music and artisitic endeavours of Junsu,Yuchun, and Jaejoong.
I LOVE JYJ!! I’m a part of Republic of JYJ! I love three of them!! Please support all members!!
Fans should be more mature, seriously why acting like a child? We should support 3 of them together. It doesnt matter who got more cf or less cf. Even jyj themselve never mention about this. When fans attack any of them, dont they think about them (jyj). Attack them at twitter is so unmature! When them (jyj) decide to close their twitter then suddenly start to beg them not to do so. Doesnt matter if you are new or already like them since dbsk you should support them not burden them more. Fed up with this fan war. Lastly who get hurt? JYJ
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thanks JYJ3 admins for share this
and i am totally agree with all of you guys said. : The great losers of this battle are JYJ and their fans..
“Subsequently, Park Sang Ho confirmed, through a recorded conversation with a site admin, that the CF issue had no relation to Jaejoong at all ” . so why bashing and blaming jaejoong ? why pyc fandoms dont say jj has nothing with this and stop their fan’s BS toward jaejoong ! this is sick , really ! i just hope jj dont find out about it !
I sense selfishness in these so call themselves “fan”. They must have gone crazy after RTP ended for more things. I’m a Jaejoong bias till the very end, but that doesn’t mean that I do not like the other two. Do not tell me that whenever you wake up in the morning to take your dose of JYJ news that you don’t get happy seeing how the article praised Jaejoong, Yoochun, Junsu, and JYJ as a whole that you don’t get happy. Again, I’m Jaejoong bias, but when I see good things bring said about Yoochun and Junsu, I can’t help but do the fangirl scream in exited mode, why? It all comes down to the name “JYJ” Good things about Jaejoong less to good thing about JYJ. Good things about Yoochun leads to good things about JYJ. Good things about Junsu leads to good things about JYJ. And good thing about JYJ leads to good things about Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. What they do will always imprint the word “JYJ” no matter who does it, so why does it matter. Thw reason we fall in love with them in the first place because of DBSK then as JYJ, so why are fans trying to split them? They already had enough of things that they can’t do like broadcasting, but they did not give up “JYJ”, so why are we fans makes it seems like we are prepared and ready to give “JYJ” up? This problem didn’t have to get so big if they stop for even one second and think about how they come to love their bias. They just don’t wake up one day and said ohhh, how I love “xxxxx”, it has to start with DBSK or JYJ. Sigh~ just like the admins said, it is the fans that are killing their beloved JYJ with such rumors like this. Hope they will start thinking about the effect that their actions have cause. I doubt that this news haven’t reach JYJ yet. I pray that they won’t get sadden too much because of fan who do not think of the concurrences before they talk.
I used to be very embarrassed whenever other artist afraid and apologized what they said as a joke but they were afraid that DBSK fans will come after them. Sure that proves that we are strong, but in a negative way. Why would anyone want people to think of “violent fans, must not get on their bad side or something bad will happen to me” Why did we have to smear stain on our names with such action, once it is there it is hard to remove. This incident just add more stain to the way they view the JYJ fandom, it does not come down to just the individual fandom, but it hurt the whole JYJ fandom as a whole. It is downgrading our JYJ names. Sigh~ hope this incident will disappear soon.
Hope that next time they think more of how their action will affect JYJ as a whole, not as individual. Thank you admin. ❤
Finally I get the meaning of what ‘ackgae’ stands for, thanks admins. I wonder if ‘ackgaes’ was literally a word, maybe a korean word?
Fiuh, seriously, how many more do we have division of fan in jyj fandom?*rolls eyes*
Well personally i think the most heartwarming thing from JYJ as a group is that although they are able to equally gain succes in solo activities, they choose to remain together as a group. Each can go back and forth from solo to group. If i could choose, i’d honestly like them to stick together as long as possible. On a side note, by doing solo while at the same time sticking together as JYJ, instead of lossing, all will gain more profit financially.
akgae (악개) is a short form of akjir gaein fan (악질개인팬), literally means malicious personal fan. it refers to a person who like one member but HATE the other members.
it’s different with gaein fan (개인팬), personal member fan. it refers to a person who like one member but UNINTERESTED to the other members.
ups, not “personal” but “individual”… yeah whatever. “personal” is the word google trans pick for me, but i think “individual” is more commonly used. xD
dang. i’ve just read the sites rule…. -_________-‘ please remove this comment. either way, the definition is probably same everywhere.
Okay thank you.
sometimes some fans seems to forget they place as just fans..
i have twitter account but i’m not too active, so i just know about all this rumour from JYJ3 site.
i think one of solution to make this “war” stop, is dont make this rumour even bigger.
like, dont make this a matter of discussion on public forum or social network. maybe that’ll be hard for us to stay out of this, but i really dont think it’s a coward way.
thank you for all of you who still believe in JYJ. like a said: what didn’t kill you, make you stronger.
thank you for all the info admin. nice to know i’m in the right place and with the right people.
(sorry for unavoidable error english, just not my main language ^^)
some fans are so dumb..*forgive my language*
what rights do you have to demand jaejoong returning those CF deals?
who are you?
why do you have to interfere with their job choices?
why are you so busy body???who are you to disagree with yoochun rejecting those CFs?? cant you just be quiet and enjoy what they’ll have to offer??
its a blessing i am more interested in dealing with my life’s trivialities than spending hrs on end online on SNS sites, haha~
i dealt with dengue for the last 2weeks (i fought fever, body pains, vomiting, loss of appetite, and so much more…), caught up on the mangas i love, surfed for musicals and historical stuff connected to them (in my reprieve from work, still bec of the dengue fever…), and just spent time with my family…
about this so called ISSUE, wow~ i can only shake my head at these KIDS… really? REALLY?
i can only imagine people who dont have work, or who have work, but (think they) have less responsibilities can/will do this with any spare time they have…
mature people dont do this…
but… we also cant fix stupid…
as a final note, (though i dont think what i’ve said so far has made any sense what so ever…) JYJ is JYJ because they are three individuals who CHOSE TO STICK TOGETHER as one. they know their strengths and weaknesses. they know they compensate for what the other member may be lacking. so there should never be the need for fans to compare one member with another just to see who’s on the higher pedestal. that’s just bullcrap.
so kids, when you see a piece of “NEWS” that surpasses the logic of jaejoong saying he admires yoochun’s acting, or yoochun saying he loves junsu’s vocal prowess, or junsu saying he’s awed at jaejoong’s composing skills… in short, when this piece of so-called NEWS defies the fact that YOOCHUN, JAEJOONG and JUNSU LOVE EACH OTHER as artists, as brothers as members (which i know they have said and shown themselves so many times in the past and until now…), then DONT SPREAD IT. dont think abt it too much. dont take it to heart…
there’s so much more stuff in YOUR OWN LIFE that you need to think about. and JYJ deals with their own lives! they are adults. they know what industry they’re in… no need for fans to smear each other’s faces with dirt just to make sure the other oppa doesnt lose. that’s lame. and only DUMB kids do that.
wow… man… what the heck have i typed again…
okay… time for my exit…
hi @sam-sam. I had dengue last year and it was so difficult to deal with. I hope you feel much better now….and I agree with your thoughts about this JYJ fan commotion that “mature people don’t do this.” 🙂
JYJ IS ONE!!!UNITED!!!
SO Let us relieve this unfavorable news 🙂
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Yes! JYJ is One for All and All for One! United!
All i can do is smile …cause i am so embarrass to call myself fan of JYJ … that’s why i am listening to Adele song “Rumor Has it”… 🙂
and To all fans and their own fandom,
Together We Stand and Divided We Fall …
ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH …. IF SOME STUPID AND BASELESS RUMOR CAN SHAKE OUR WHOLE FANDOM, THEN WE BETTER DON’T CALL OURSELF FAN
and to all the fans one last thing
look in the corner of your fandom wall … Who is laughing at us??? SME, Avex, and Homin fans…. they are getting what they want without doing anything. can you imagine JYJ without eachother .. well i cannot … thats it
there are anti fans among fans
there are haters among lovers. wait,.. no, there are haters who love to see others suffering.
why can they get a life? I really don’t understand why bother and wasting your time to hate people you don’t like.
I admit that I do not like some kpop group so I don’t care anything about them. it’s easy.
When I like some kpop group then I will care anything about them. Support and cheer them with all my heart. as long as they do things that makes them happy then i also be happy for them.
I like JYJ as Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu. each of them has their own charms and talent. they can shine individually and together they shining than a star. you can not separate them after what they had face this recent years.
when JYJ sad then I’ll also feel sad..
when JYJ happy then I’ll be happy. ^____________^
I believe that those fans can’t do anything to our JYJ ~ JYJ has risked all of the worst things on this world ~ So I’m sure that they can be brave enough to risk again those rumours ~ so this rumour just like a salt in the ocean, that’s all ~ it’s not deserved to make JYJ bother, even ~ LET’S CONSCIOUS TO PROTECT OUR LOVE!
JYJ is one package for me ….as much as I enjoy solo activities , I look forward to their activities as 3 …..good thing I’m not on any SNS , cos I’m sure this whole issue will upset me a lot ….every morning and every eve when I return home from college , all I think of is what’s the latest jyj update in jyj3 ! I love all 3 and though I may not be a very good contributing fan (I’ve bought only In heaven till no and I’ve not attended FMs or concerts ) , atleast I’m a mature one ……. Our trio and cjes have enough on their plates already without having to deal with this civil war as well ……….. as long as the boys don’t have an issue among themselves , I am going to support them as a group , all 3 !
hurm..i didnt know bout this rumour at all if i didnt check out JYJ3 website..it is so sad that there are fans who acting that kind of behaviour.What is Our right to determine our idol Personal matter..it is just ridiculous..poor Jae have to see all those bashing coming from Yoochun fans..i was a fan of a sme artist,but becoz of Yoochun i started to support JYJ..but that doesnt mean i hate Jae n Junsu..i watch,liked n favourited Junsu oppa’s Tarantaleggra..watched Protect The Boss,everything that involves them 3..it is so frustatin to see some of the acgae fan wants to tear them apart..maybe acting is Yoochun oppa new cup of tea..but music still his priority..music is what that kept them both together stronger than ever…have they forget bout the past? JYJ be strong..JYJ fighting!! Love them to the max♥♥
SERIOUSLY…..WHAT ARE THOSE FANS THINKING????? X_X
They should not be called fans that support the boys……X_X
C-Jes and the boys have enough on their own hands to deal with without them giving trouble….I thought fans understand that JYJ still have a hard time getting CF deals, TV appearances, or renting avenues, etc in Korea or even worse in Japan….And even though product companies want to make deal with them or one of them but they dare not to coz if they deal with the boys, they will never any other deal from other entertainment companies… In Korea, these entertainment companies now join force to make the boys disappear these days….That is their new tactics now so if you are not in this join force party, you will be out of business scenes in no time and most ppl fear that….Why can’t these fans understand this and what JYJ’s situation in right now in Korea @_@
Fans should just support whoever they like instead of making noises, and causing troubles to others… -_-
Anyway…Thank you very much adminies for clarifying these rumors….^^
Now it’s time for C-Jes to clarify this mess. C-Jes must leave aside their indifferent and wrong behaviour regarding to the JYJ fandom once and for all. They must realize JYJ + JYJ fans = one unit One can’t exist without the other and viceversa. No more antipathy please.
Whoever started this war is just too unhaapy about what JYJ has achieved as group and as individuals.They just want to split them.That is not going to happen,because what JYJ went through and it is still going through made them united together forever.So to us the fans,please be smart.Don’t fall into this war.
I’m keeping my thoughts to myself on this issue .
I wonder when this blows up and gets picked up by the Korean Press and really becomes a nuclear issue, where tabloids start discussing about JYJ breaking up etc. These so called fans who keep stirring the shark infested waters, will finally be satisfied.
What is this? I’ll read it after I get home from work.
Thank you so much for your genuine love and support. God bless you. =)
All the fansites in Korea are trying to get a response from Cjes?? It will just blow things up even further, if the rumor is legitimized by official announcement from Cjes. The last statement has a deadline and sounds like an ultimatum. What are the fansites gonna do if Cjes do not respond, or cannot respond? Professionally, it is wise not to respond…. Are fansites all powerful in Korea?
Now some other union, calling itself JYJ Fansite Union, is making demands to CJeS. I see the media getting involved. Hope y’all are happy. Instead of celebrating news that JYJ has broken the record for largest movement of tourists into Seoul,Korea, the media will be talking about JYJ breaking up. Hope that quest for revenge and your egos were worth, destroying and embarrassing JYJ.
“Hope that quest for revenge and your egos were worth, destroying and embarrassing JYJ.”
Well, that does in fact appear to be the agenda of the acgae. They don’t like JYJ anymore, they want their bias, whoever he happens to be, to break away and go solo permanently. They want their One & Only to be just that – One and Only One. This is why, for us long-time, tireless supporters and lovers of the members of JYJ, their brotherhood and their talented union, it’s hard to see an up-side in anything that the acgae, or those who tolerate and excuse them are doing right now.
No..please dont let it happen…
@beyondgrateful @lisan @lilibaiyu
after read some comment here..i feel great that JYJ have some fans like u guys & some more like @Sapphire & many2 more..u guys are very diplomatical & rational..can i say that??i really believe that all of your intention to made the fandom become nore peaceful & not so emotional…what bothers me is when some people just feel like its a hypocracy just because your opinion is not same with them.is it totally wrong if demand for peace & stay calm?? i totally believe that what u guys do is for the sake of JYJ..thank you & sorry for the bad english…
& btw i miss @intoxicated too..i love to read her good comment..
I miss @intoxicatedbyxiahtic too *sighs… I’m hoping she’s changed her user name but is still commenting, or at least silently lurking. If you see this Intoxicated, please reveal yourself! *hugs you*
@disisme, thank you 🙂 and I miss her to.
This article is talking about clearing it up, but so many comments are still trying to fire it up.
For the record I want to say, I am not mad at anybody. I love all 3 JYJ so much I would give my blood for them. I appreciate C-JeS for fighting for JYJ under very difficult circumstances and never giving up. I love JYJ fans, esp admins and translators who dedicate themselves selflessly to spread JYJ music and love.
After 30 years of marriage I have learned that few issues are worth fighting over. Loving each other is more important than being treated right. If you try to love each other more, the injustices fade naturally.
Always keep the faith~ this is suite for JYJ’s Fans eternally+++++++++ I LOVE JYJ
I can say only one thing:I ONLY ABOUT JYJ! AND I’M SURE ALL THOSE RUMOURS HAVE BEEN STARTED FROM THEIR FORMER COMPANY IN ORDER TO DESTROY JYJ’S SUPPORTERS WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL AND SUPPORTIVE ! DON’T GIVE UP,PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY NEED OUR LOVE AND LOYALTY. I LOVE YOU ALL, AND LOVE THOSE WONDERFUL BOYS.HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Call to Arms
I think it is time to call a spade a spade. There is no longer room to discuss quietly in the shadows. This is the time for us fans, of JYJ, to save our fandom; from those who have invaded and are trying to tear us apart from within. We are a fandom that withstood the trials and tribulations of SM, Avex and all the other haters and blockers of JYJ. We have withstood years of uncertainty and heart break, because of our love and support for the three men of JYJ. But, now all that is being threatened by those with selfish intents and those who have been clouded by others.
We can no longer allow the face and voice of our fandom to be those of whiny complainers; of people who choose to focus on the negative instead of the positive. This is a fandom consisting of many ages, genders, creeds, nationalities, cultures etc. That is what makes us unique and truly special. Perhaps, it is also what makes it easier for us to retreat to our corners, when things get rocky.
It is sad that it has taken another “scandal” to make us all finally come out and speak up. But, now that we are out, we must take this opportunity to speak out and speak up. Rather than lurking or disappearing, if there are things bothering you about the fandom or maybe even this site, this is the time to do it. Yes, this is a personal blog, but as long as it uses the JYJ3 moniker and carries the JYJ banner, it represents all the members of JYJ and their fans.
Each of us can contribute something and are valuable to the fandom. Do not let anyone or anything make you feel you have no right to be here or be one. So whether we are JYJers, JYJ Republic, JYJ Fans and/or JYJ Family, let us heal the wounds, resolve the bad blood and reunite as one.
Your post gave me shivers. 🙂 I’ll be proud to stand up beside you & fight for JYJ. As I wrote above, I think it would be a pretty poor way of paying JYJ back for all the joy, love, & incredible body of work they have given us if we fans were to cut & run just cause things are (once again) ugly & in turmoil in the fandom.
You are exactly right! I think this whole thing is just stupid and childish. Our strong solid fandom has comes to heads with SM, Avex, music stations and stayed strong! We do this just to wind up fighting each other?! I’m frustrated by this but this is what happens when you have such a diverse fanbase. It happens with every music group. However, I do this in the case regarding JYJ these united fan fronts (or whatever they’re called) are being just a lot over ridiculous. I think we’re all bigger than this and we all as a fan group need to understand that if we fall apart and start attacking eachother than this will just make things worse or the over all picture. CJES has done more for JYJ thank any other music company right now. Let’s not blow this while everything is going so well for the guys. In the nut shell, as long as JYJ aren’t complaining then I don’t understand what anyone should be complaining about. If they’re cool and doing their job then I’m good. period.
Reporting for duty!
As much as I love and support the boys, I don’t understand the mindset of these people. I’m going to be blunt. JJ, YC, and JS have no idea they even exist. More than likely, these fans will never even have a conversation with JYJ. It makes me wonder where they get their sense of entitlement. THEY DONT KNOW YOU AND THEY OWE YOU NOTHING. They are 3, free grown ass men and are capable of making their own decisions. These ‘fans’ have no say as to what the boys can or can’t do. It freaks me out that there are people out there that think this way about strangers. It’s disturbing.
“JJ, YC, and JS have no idea they even exist. More than likely, these fans will never even have a conversation with JYJ.”
I think this is what motivates a lot of these acgaes. As @lisan has pointed out in previous posts, it’s a form of attention-seeking. Scarily I think the acgaes have so little knowledge or consideration of the kind of person their bias is, that they honestly believe that if their bias does see them & their ridiculous & frequently savage behaviour, the bias will be proud of them & feel loved & happy that the acgae is so passionately supporting & defending them, & thus love that acgae fan back. This type of thinking is so mind-mindbogglingly delusional that I’m amazed these people can function at all.
By this incident, now I know that JYJ fans are growing bigger than before and more diverse. And bigger crowd are a lot harder to handle. We must encourage fans to be more critical, read/write properly and willing to examine any news / information that they read / heard.
Lovely Adminie of JYJ3, please do not tired reminding us to be well-behaved and polite in the fandom. Thank you.
I got the over understanding of what’s going on. I had to read it before I head to work lol. I’ll read it over again for a better understanding. Why is this happening? I have much to say but I’ll wait so I can type clearly and objectively about this issue.
All I have to say is I love JYJ as a group and I love them individually!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will continue to support their activites as a group an individually!!!!!!!!!! I feel they are grown responsiable, mature, men and they make the decisions as to what projects they want to do or not. If one member is offered and chooses to do more projects then the other that is their business. If JYJ as a group is not bothered by one member individual number of activities. Then me as a fan will not be bothered either. I just hope (JYJ) and (Junsu, Yoochun,and Jae) continue to have much success as a group and individually!!!!!!!!!!!! I will continue to love and support either way!!!!!!!!
“Miss Heather! Miss Heather! Rosy got more red crayons! I want them back! Tell her to give them back, they are mine!” *throws a hissy fit*
That’s what this whole mess reminds me. Somebody should send those immature fans to stand in the corner until they know their place. Not explaining, defending themselves, trying to ease the fans… LOL Just tell them they don’t have any business with it.
LOVE ALL OF THE JYJ MEMBER!!!!
what if the morons who started this stupid rumor was outsider of JYJ fandom?
Never ever brake the FAMILY SPIRIT OF JYJ FANDOM!!!
“what if the morons who started this stupid rumor was outsider of JYJ fandom?”
I’ve been screaming this for I don’t know how long! PRECIOUS or FOREVER, anyone?
“I’ve been screaming this for I don’t know how long!”
Stop banging your head against that wall Mummy-hen! You know it’s not good for you 😉
Well, it’s nice to know you’re looking out for my best interests! Thank you sweetie. 🙂 Glad to see you’re feeling well enough to come join the fray.
I’m going to keep my thought positive and remember what Gandhi says….good triumphs over evil always!
“I’ve been screaming this for I don’t know how long! PRECIOUS or FOREVER, anyone?”
But that’s the point. Some fans are so caught up in the Small Picture, i.e. “Someone’s cheating Our Chunnie of his rightful CFs!!” and “Someone’s attacking Our Beloved Jaejoong and WE won’t stand for it!” that they can’t see the forest for the trees anymore.
You and I know it’s not ABOUT that – the important thing, as you said yesterday, is keeping our Eye On The Prize, which is WINNING the court cases with SM and AVEX. THAT’S Job One and a very close second is being a fully united fanbase for JYJ, ready to roll, ready to insist that the TV networks in SK honor their word and at long last allow JYJ to promote their activities on TV if that’s what they want to do.
It’s going to be a hard sell. Once emotions get whipped up into a frenzy, it will take a while for calmer thoughts to prevail. I’m not trying to dismiss the feelings. What I hope will happen is, at some point everyone involved in this fracas accepts whatever response is offered and moves on. There has to be an endpoint.
People should really try and understand. This is JUST the tip of the iceberg. If they think this nonsense is huge NOW. Wait until that decision comes down. It will become a no holds barred BLOODBATH after that. The all important intent is to DESTROY JYJ, nothing less will do. There can be no survivors. LSM/SME will be satisfied with nothing less. For them, JYJ has to pay the ultimate price for daring to pull back the curtains and let everyone see what really went on inside that company. Their dirty little secrets are out. Revenge can be a powerful motivator. Doesn’t make it right, but once that mindset kicks in, it’s hard to battle. You have to have your wits about you in order to fend off the attacks.
But I’m going to keep the faith that ultimately this fandom cares about JYJ — all members! Thank goodness I don’t have a favorite. Life is good. 🙂
I didn’t even know that there was beef in the JYJ fandom until now. Didn’t read all of it because I’m studying for finals (T minus 1.5 hours OMG save me, Superman!), but the whole situation seems ridiculous.
You pretty much summed it up! 😉 Good luck in your finals.
people junsu needs help >_<
vote here to show em your support. SPREAD THE WORDS
LOL you’re hilarious. Do you not see the WAR going on? The ever so ridiculous war? lol.
By the way your link doesn’t click so you might wanna repost a clickable link.
I can see too much hypocrisy here,
we love all three,
but they are targetting JFU and even @Jeneration is treated like she is an acgae ! PHEW
Better move to Jaejoong twitter update post.
All this time I thought we are one big united family, JYJ3 family composed of matured, smart and open minded people.
When there’s a problem in a family, we talk, we listen and we share what we know about the problem. Each member may not take the problem too seriously but as a whole we talk about it with open eyes and ears. We try to sympathize and comfort those who are hurt the most and we’ll try to see things in their perspective and together discuss and work out for the betterment of each member and the family as a whole.
But why are some people here are shoving out members who are trying to share their feelings and some pieces of informations/accounts on why they feel so affected. Why do we have to hide some ugly truth, I don’t see it as spreading but sharing with family members. We may not agree to other members sentiments but we do not shut them down and brand them as “stirrer of shit”. What a fool am I to think that we’re family, we’re just plain cyber aquaintance after all.
I have re-read from the top to the last comment. Some people can maintain their minds for long. They seem to be different on each comment they made.
It is surely hard to perform a wise person when we are not… 😀
Exactly, acting righteous and mighty but the bottom line shows the true color.
I felt I had to write this, my punctuation is not that good, but none the less, here it goes:
To ALL Fanclubs of each member, just as the boys love each other unconditionally and will always be there for each other like family… so too their fandoms should be. Please for the love of each member, for all they have been through, for all they have suffered in bringing us what we wanted which is their beautiful music, performances and love, please be understanding and supportive of whatever each one of them does. Do not take to heart any misunderstanding in communication or rumors that come about. Trust in our boys and their choice in having CJES work for them. CJES and JYJ with all they have been through must feel like family, they have stood together and fought and are still fighting Goliath. We know Jaejoong would never take anything from either of the boys and vice versa. They would each willingly share what they have (be it possessions or work) with each other. If customs or beliefs would make it seem like one of them is stealing from the other then we JYJ Nation need to let it be known that JYJ would not do that to each other. That that belief is unfounded. We need to not believe in any malicious rumors or publications, etc. that come about in regards to this. We need to keep our faith, we as a JYJ Nation have to hold hands and not let the enemy break our connection. For the JYJ war against Goliath is far from over.
Can’t believe this is happening to them As if they need more issues. I hope this all gets better and people reconsider sending mean tweets to them.
Im really glad JYJ Fan Union send this demand to C-JeS. Just as Im glad about JJFU stand on the situation.
I know some people don’t agree with asking for answers from C-JeS but in the end C-JeS is JYJ management and its their duty to take care of JYJ and JJ YC and JS. Its their duty to do the PR for JJ YC and JS . Is their duty to control rumors no matter how absurd they may be
More important, is their duty to be in control of the “official” information.
When a group of fans claim to have “official information” the most logical thing to do to avoid any misunderstanding, any manipulation is to have a real official statement about what is going on.
Also, when Hotels were attacking JYJ did we hide and did nothing in order to avoid the press to get a hold of the rumors? No we did not. We proactively worked in cleaning up all the rumors.
This is not different.
This are antifans too. This is malicious information.
And what worries me the most is, unless C-JeS clear up things about the “official information” the anti fans claim to have, there will always be a doubt about whether the rumor is true or not, or whether this fans do or do not have privileged access to C-JeS executives and information.
I wish C-JeS for once manage this situation in a way that avoids any further rumors. If they do not, this is not gonna die down, is gonna get worse.
I can already imagine what this antifans (who obviously are not gonna unite and work together with JYJ fans to protect JYJ) will do next time they get more “official information” and no member of JYJ will be safe.
Some people tend to forget that C-JeS issued an announcement itself, stating that it’d take actions against who or what entity that start/spread vicious rumors about JYJ. What now? As if these rumors and things happening as direct results of them were not vicious and harmful enough for JYJ! This incident has escalated to the point that major Korean JYJ fansites have to join force to request C-JeS to clear up the matter. If we want to stand strong and tall to fight our main enemies, we have to settle all the internal conflicts within the fandom first. Sweeping everything under the rug for temporary peace isn’t a good solution. Damage was done, fans have done their parts, now what’s left is C-JeS’ response. As a management company with the duties of helping the boys and protecting their images, I do think C-JeS should join hands with the fans to solve this problem once and for all.
Sweeping everything under the rug for temporary peace isn’t a good solution.
I know cjes stated before they will take actions agaist who start vicious rumors. The questions: what are they doing? I hope is not this “official information” behind closed doors becuse if that is the case… is not helping
That is why Im all for CJ-eS to give a public response. This is a delicate situation that could easily turn even worse. Not only JJ fans noticed how delicate it was, but JYJ fans as well.
well handled Cjes can stop this
I think it should be a combination of things that will stop these people
1. Fans seriously need to stop accepting anything they read just because it was posted on some site or because so and so said this or that.
2. Whenever some scandal or misunderstanding erupts CJeS should step in and disclaim the rumors.
3. Shadow gave me a great idea when she singled out that Pierrot character. Whenever we suspect a hater or anti in disguise we should investigate (not jump to conclusions cause we could be wrong) but do what Shadow did and tip the admins who can check IP addresses, verify or deny our suspicions and then take action. If this person is some troll then we can ban these individuals whose mission is to spread chaos and hatred.
I know that some members believe that CJeS releasing a statement is not a good idea because that would be giving time and importance to haters and so and so but I think CJeS should release a statement for the following reasons:
1. I respect and take to heart the reasonable advice given by the admins of this website but not all fans are like me. Some would like to hear from CJeS to be reassured.
2. CJeS would not be wasting time or resources in informing fans. All they have to do is post a message on their website. (Approved by JYJ of course) Pretty simple.
3. The sooner a stop is put to these rumors the easier damage control can be. We always say that if we ignore these people they’ll go away or that only idiots would listen to them but this is very counterproductive. Some fans really are gullible or have no way of verifying information. Antis take advantage etc etc…..It would be in CJeS’s best interest to limit the damage done by acgaes and others by informing people of the facts as soon as possible so whenever someone comes with some lie on their lips you can silence them and not feel any doubt.
4. JYJ also have their number of “casual” fans who may not be as well informed as more involved fans are. We owe it to ourselves as a fandom and for any new fans coming into this pile of crazy to be as well informed and coherent as possible.
5. NO MORE FREAKING DRAMA LIKE THIS EVER AGAIN…or at least more reasonable forms of action against rumor-mongers.
you are right aboiut people being more aware of the information they are consuming, we should always be careful in what we believe and what we dont.
Just remember that sometimes things may sound resonable and sometimes the craziest things come out true (dbsk disbanding? old fans know we never thought that could happen)
100% about cjes, come on, one word for them could easly shut all these rumors about CFs. Just ONE word and thats it
Investigate, true too.
That is how this was exposed, because fans saw what was happening in china, how many of the sites talking are know to be anti fans and i think that is why JYJ fans in general woke up and talked about the issue.
But also some sites dont even care about it and embrace the anti fans with arms wide open.
From the beginign i think the best cjes can do is to release an official statment.
but this is very counterproductive. Some fans really are gullible or have no way of verifying information. Antis take advantage good point. Just saying “only idiots believe it” is not good enought, there are young fans, there are uninformed fans…
NO MORE FREAKING DRAMA LIKE THIS EVER AGAIN…or at least more reasonable forms of action against rumor-mongers.
The owrse is, if CJES does not speak up we WILL have more drama like this, and worse each time.
How I wish Admin will highlight or bolden your points 1-5 for others to read.
Those kind of comments are needed on this post, not all those going around the circle, repetitive preaching and lectures.
My coment editing is a mess…too bad not editing button in the commnents
anyway, just saying I agree with you.
My friend sent me this. So glad JYJ3 admins put this together. Now we see each end of the whole issue. Which again reminds me of the fan Group known as HoTels.(Yunho bias fans) And how they spread rumors about JYJ. Again this biased seem like sasaeng like fans which now can be referred to as acgae are on a whole new level of troub;e for the boys. Look we can tell the boys had no beef between them which lead to why JYJ fans were attacking each other on twitter, Tumblr, FB like crazy and not know the whole story all of us began to become confused at least there is some light shed and hopefully Cjes can answer and clear this all up
key were like in away that they seem to be way to into the boys life if. Not saying they are like actually sasaeng fans or anti but again treading over the other members and only focusing on the their bias is too much. Look love the boys but this mess I would like to avoid
so disappointing and sad to experienced these kind of things but if these what will make us more stronger and wiser then i’ll take it. just to be with the ones who truly love Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu, 3 people who called themselves as JYJ.
Thank you JYJ3 admins for this feature. I’m with you…. “At the end of the day, we are all equally just fans.”
iTS SO SAD specially at the time like this when Jaejoong needs so much support from a united JYJ fans but let us watch and pray hard that those who really really love JYJ will stand firm in support of JYJ especially for Jaejoong.Those in SK please encourage more people as much as you can to watch his drama and coming movie. He DOES NOT need those CFs for it will come in due time for him not 30 but 100. Let us stop talking about this- look at Jae his lips were ducktaped. Have more faith with CJES- they should know what is best for the boys.The more we press on the issue the more the enemy will dance for joy.All Jae fans please stay quiet in a corner like Jae. Have peace and cheers!
like hell we will stay quite in a corner, and for god sake, Jae DID NOT saty quite in a corner. watch your words!
Jae’s lips were ducktaped as part of his movie The Jackal. Let us stop writing before getting ourselves enough information. Knowledge is power.
I second @hana. Jae is not staying quiet in a corner. Don’t take a movie scene as reality.
–> “Let us stop talking about this- look at Jae his lips were ducktaped”
LOL, what are you talking about? If you know nothing, then let me tell you it’s about his movie Jackal.
@Honorie —>” All Jae fans please stay quiet in a corner like Jae” ?
LOL…Keeping silence and doing nothing can’t solve the problem, the acgae are still attacking JJ. When I log in to the Micky Baidu Bar(chinese fan cafe) and see their comments, believe me it’s too ugly and they’ve irritated the Jaejoongers/Jaeharem of Hero Baidu Bar. Why keep on doing silly things like this? We are JYJ fans right? Even though u only love ur bias, doesn’t mean that u can criticise or hate other members! Now, I hope CJES will respond to this issue as soon as possible, otherwise this so-called fan war will still going on. Don’t be affected by those rumours, we should believe what we see, what we hear and what we feel.
“Look at Jae his lips were ducktaped”, “All Jae fans please stay quiet in a corner like Jae”
I suggest you reassess your comment. I’m in a fairly normal mood right now, I don’t wanna lash out on you but these sentences are quite insulting to Jaejoong’s fans.
… but that is the gist of some of the comments above, they want Jaejoong Fans to tape our mouth and stay quiet in the corner.
I know, girl, believe me I know. I just don’t bother replying or even finishing reading some of the comments. I let them have their righteous moments under the nice umbrella called “for the sake of JYJ”. Fine to me, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But if someone obviously insults Jaejoong or his fans then that’s a totally different story.
LOL @ ” let them have their righteous moments under the nice umbrella called “for the sake of JYJ”.
Don’t be surprise, that which you don’t wanna see is happening.
“… but that is the gist of some of the comments above, they want Jaejoong Fans to tape our mouth and stay quiet in the corner.”
Maybe some do. But I know for many more, myself included, it’s not about taping anyone’s mouth shut, but asking people not to keep deliberately provoking more tensions, hatred & outright verbal warfare in the fandom, as much for the sake of any potential damage this could do to JYJ as a whole, & to Jaejoong & Chunnie individually, as for the fandom itself. We all have the right to voice our opinions & feelings, but with that right comes the responsibility to take care with what we say & how we say it so as not to offend others & inflame this battle even more.
Come on Kris. You’ve been in this fandom for a long time, & you know how important it is for such a diverse group of people to do their best to take care when communicating, esp when things are as tense & crazy as this. I know a lot of people’s emotions are running at an all time high, but please be aware of not taking offense where none was intended.
Yes, I’m here in this fandom for while that’s why I support JFU’s stance. It doesn’t have to have a press release to clear this out, just proper communication between JFU, Cjes and PFU, why is it too hard? Rather than living in rumors, speculations and misunderstanding, Cjes PR Team should once and for all clear this out. I always believe that a communication/dialogue between a management company PR representative and its major consumers representatives is an effective way of a successful business. Consumers have no business in taking part in management decisions but their joint voices can be taken into consideration in making sensitive company policies and programs. It’s not interference but just a reference. What are those PR people learning in their management schools after all, communication is just the key. Shutting down people or playing deaf and mute can only aggravate the problem.
@Honorie ..err .. perhaps you shud ducktaped your own lips ?
What? Staying quiet and letting trouble-makers start shit and then hide their hands behind their backs in NOT OK! Jaejoong is concentrating on his projects right now and many fans are supporting him. We have the time to cheer him on and to shut the haters.
BTW…..Does anyone else really, really, really wanna watch “The Jackal is Coming”? I can’t wait!!!!!!
“Does anyone else really, really, really wanna watch “The Jackal is Coming”? I can’t wait!!!!!!”
oh my friend … you have no idea …. the jackal can’t come quick enough .
Oh! ya! Can’t wait for this movie “The Jackal is Coming” XDD
It’s going to be very interesting plot and storyline ^^
JJ in captive by a very beautiful noona song Ji Hyo 😀 ahh….hhh….. can’t wait 😛
BTW…..Does anyone else really, really, really wanna watch “The Jackal is Coming”? I can’t wait!!!!!!
Absolutely!!!! Dying for it. I want to watch it Now!
“What? Staying quiet and letting trouble-makers start shit and then hide their hands behind their backs in NOT OK! ”
That seems to me to be a slight side-stepping of an important issue here, namely, would Jaejoong really want HIS fans to attack Yuchun in any way for any reason? I think not. In fact I rather think he would want us to err on the side of caution when it comes to stirring up trouble for the Soulmate’s individual fandoms. I think the profound SILENCE coming from both Jae and Chun regarding this many days old fandom meltdown is very telling.
Certainly they know about it. They are nothing if not plugged in to Social Media. My sense on their lack of ANY response to this is that they are both completely appalled and horrified by the mess to the point where they just don’t know WHAT to say. Keep in mind: these two do not want to offend or marginalize ANY of their fans. They don’t want to lose even one of their fans. Apart form anything else they LOVE their fans and feel profound gratitude to them.
So in a very real way they will continually be victimized by what their fans do with no options for speaking out or stopping the mayhem for fear of turning off fans. They know that in this CURRENT CLIMATE of being banned by so many outlets for their music that all they have going for them is the loyalty of the fans. So in essence they are now being held hostage by the worst of them — the most demanding, the most proprietary of them, who think that for their loyalty they deserve to run their lives and influence their business decisions.
that people are crazy, I do not understand how they think irrationally, fans have their place and also the artists, there are limits that we have to respetar.Los fans can not interfere in the internal affairs of JYJ, even have a say!, this situation is crazy, ah! those fans are from Korea or China, or that country?. I’m a fan of JYJ, three! and only believe what they say, do not believe anyone else!
reading this only makes me realize, just how big our fandom is. it’s not just merely hundreds here, hundreds there, and with the intensity of fans love, it’s such a scary fandom. i hope this will cleared fast enough, i don’t want another headache.
thank god i avoid GAPP and discussion post these last months, i don’t think my poor heart can absorb this..
people need to calm down more..
As with all crisis or critical incidents, it is always best to return to normalcy as quickly as possible. Let us close this unfortunate chapter but at the same time, learn from it.
To me, Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu are three amazing guys whose names have already been emblazoned in the entertainment history of South Korea the moment they chose to go against the Goliath in the form of their former company. They are the ambassadors of hope to the future generations of youngsters who would have otherwise succumbed or taken their lives because of the shady dealings and bullying from those unscrupulous companies. JYJ had survived because of their immense talent and staunch support of their loyal fans. Let us not be the ones to derail their efforts through our pettiness!
When I first heard rumblings of some ‘fan war’, I thought it was just some leftover crumbs of past fan discord. After reading the above demands by fanclubs/sites, I’m still in the dark!?! You know what, we are fans of an entertainment trio, and as such, we ‘fans’ buy their albums, DVDs, attend their concerts, fan meets and other public activities. We can catch them in commercials, on TV, musical and award shows. We are also, with the exception of some very lucky fans at meets who get within close proximity of the above-mentioned trio, free to swoon over and fantasize about them from AFAR!!!! Get a grip people!!! We do not OWN these three young men, we are not blood relatives; they can come and go at will, and their personal business activities are their own! They owe us nothing but a good performance; the aforementioned public activities are done to keep communication between fan and star open. If fans continue on the path they’re taking now, JYJ will cease to exist as we now know them. Please just stop and think about what you’re doing and saying and give JYJ some room to breathe.
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Dear Friends and Lovers of JYJ
….perhaps when we start to keep silent for a while, they will talk. Just a moment of silence and listen please. Peace to everyone! 🙂
Reading some comments here really makes me realize how 2-faced certain people can be. Kept emphasizing we are JYJ fans and must support all 3 but hidden in every single comments are aimed towards Jae fans and the fandom.
Even going to the extend of commenting that the fandom is becoming rude, selfish, hypocrites whatever blah blah blah … forgetting to include themselves in the equation.
Let me just quote a simple scenario.
There is this woman (A) who was sexually abused by a man (B).
B turns around and accused A of seducing him, thus spreading bad rumors about A all over the net. B even goes all the way to A’s house and tells her parents to teach her a lesson.
Some friends of A heard about this and decide to get the authorities to catch B. Apparently; the authorities are not interested in dealing with this case.
Furthermore the bad rumors of A will not die down and many supporters of B even start to abuse the woman. B’s friends actually formed groups to complain to the authority about A.
The friends of A then want to seek justice for her and start a petition to demand the authorities to do something.
Till now, the authorities seems like wanting to stay out of the whole issue.
However, some friends of both A & B, who claim they support both sides, keep telling A and her friends NOT to make this issue bigger and just let it be.
And they have the cheek to accuse the A’s friend of poking their noses into the issue. These friends even said BOTH A & B is suffering from the bad publicity BECAUSE A’s friends DARE to want justice for A.
It is to an extend that these people did not even believe the abuse is real and that it never happened even though B HIMSELF admitted it.
So I’m asking, should that woman and her friends remain in silence just for the sake of peace? Is she wrong to ask for justice to the wrongs did to her? So it’s her and her friend’s fault in your eyes because you think they shamed the whole village??
Really, some people should stop being the hypocrites they are. We do not need your support in this issue if you don’t care; neither do you have the right to tell us off for showing support.
And, if seeking justice is considered revenge and embarrassing, then I’m sorry to tell those people, you’re in the wrong fandom.
Because for JYJ, every step of the way is seeking justice, else why the hell will they even bother suing sm and avex?
For the fun of it? To embarrass themselves? To seek revenge towards that 2 companies?
And just because this time round, the rumors-spreaders are fans of a member of the same group, they can be allowed to do harmful and stupid things?
Use your head of a while. Dont speak all righteous when hypocrisy is your second name.
“Dont speak all righteous when hypocrisy is your second name.”
How I wish I’m as brave as you !
Your story is exactly the same as the situation now. Thumb up for u.
“Use your head of a while. Dont speak all righteous when hypocrisy is your second name.”
I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!
“And, if seeking justice is considered revenge and embarrassing, then I’m sorry to tell those people, you’re in the wrong fandom.
Because for JYJ, every step of the way is seeking justice, else why the hell will they even bother suing sm and avex?
For the fun of it? To embarrass themselves? To seek revenge towards that 2 companies?”
Good point ! A+++++
And good advise indeed … ” Use your head for while ” !!!
i second…third…fourth that!
I commented above that maybe I should step back, but when I read your post I can’t help but go back and give you an A+++
and I clearly see what you mean by : “must support all 3 but hidden in every single comments are aimed towards Jae
fans and the fandom. ”
And I wonder if their reaction is the same if JYJ’s name as a unit is the one dragged on.
We do want to step back for peace, but surely not to be assumed as giving up supporting what is the right thing to do.
I know that we all are waiting for CJes’ action… 😀
“We do want to step back for peace, but surely not to be assumed as giving up supporting what is the right thing to do.”
As for C-Jes taking action, personally I think their statement that there had been some problems with Chunnie doing solo cfs was more oblique, provocative & damaging than helpful. I’m not blaming everyone in C-Jes for this btw. Many fans are of the opinion that if C-Jes makes a public statement, it will just be more harmful to all of JYJ. Others are certain it’s the only way for this fracas to be resolved. I don’t know enough about S Korean culture & attitudes, or how they do business to be sure either way, so on this point, I’m keeping my mouth shut.
My darling sis ♥
I actually feel annoyed when fans interpreted JFU’s request as interfering CJes’ intern. Nothing in JFU’s request is inappropriate and CJes did answer to PYFU. I wonder why the fans who felt annoyed about this didn’t feel the same when PYFU launched their request to CJes.
I also didn’t know how people do things in SK, but if CJes has kindly granted PYFU with answer, I don’t see the reason of why they can not do the same to JFU.
Hi 🙂 There’s so much about this whole thing that is unclear, & getting even more obscured with the fans throwing accusations & attacks left, right & centre. I did raise my eyebrows at the word “demand” in the letter to C-Jes, but someone said that in actuality the Korean phrasing of the document was more formal/polite. @livingfree wrote a great comment below on exactly why it could be far more damaging to JYJ in the long run if C-Jes does issue any formal statements. The bottom line for me is that I don’t have any control over C-Jes or how they & JYJ do business, I have no knowledge of or experience in running/managing a business or PR, & I’m not familiar with the cultural mores of SK. That’s not to say I’m happy with the way this whole thing has been handled/mishandled, but I’m not about to tell C-Jes & JYJ how to do business when I have absolutely no idea or experience of it myself! I just really wish the fans would calm down & moderate themselves instead of ripping into each other.
No idea…. hangul hates me. But from what I get from the letter itself, ‘demand’ was made after some previous requests were neglected by CJes and as the one who arrange JYJ’s activities, CJes is also the bridge between JYJ and fans. To say that fans do not have rights to do that is rather silly. CJes did ask fans favor on behalf of JYJ so they also be reasonable enough to provide fans with information. And for heaven’ sake…. CJes did answer PYFU.
I have my favourite comments here too sis. I favor @Shadow’s comment among others.
I disagree with more damages will be resulted from giving JFU the answer they are demanding. What is so harmful in their letter? They ‘demand’ because the time being consumed by CJes to actually give JFU the answer is rather frustratingly and confusingly long, compared to what they gave PYFU.
I think it is up to CJes to stop this mess now. If they want to be fair, they should answer JFU the way they did PYFU.
Fans will not calm down until this matter is solved. Fans will keep requesting CJes for clarification until it is made.
imo, it’s better to straight up confront the person (or send him/her private message) rather than talking about “some people are hypocrite”/”some people are being 2-faced” here and there. 😐
Interesting for you to target that at my post when some people above are doing the same thing.
Did you by any change read this long~~~~ post from the back huh?!
“By any chance”
i read. and i know everyone has doing this since before, here and there (odp or even twitter), one with a subtle approach (and long ass post i couldn’t read all word by word) so i can’t confront to it without being sure for whom the comments are targeting (people in jyj3 or other people). or should i “target” each and every post? if that’s what i should do, then i’m going to do that. why am i targeting this at your post? because this is the most unsubtle one, and the newest one, (maybe i missed some) so i can be sure to whom it is targeting.
either way, to all, please, for God’s sake, can you please just confront to one person you feel disagree to? JaeIsMine is doing that below there.
So you’re second guessing who I’m targeting to eh?
In any case, it’s not one single person I’m talking about, it’s also to the general who have similiar views.
And yes, I will appreciate you do the same to whoever is “doing it”.
Else i will definately think you’re only targeting me.
you speak the truth
you can eat all my apples!
i think JYJ fandom shouldnt respond to this childish rumors.seriously this is so immature.whats wrong with yoochun if he get all the CF and share with the other two.this is what humanity and friendship is.btw, yoochun will be more upset with this rumor than anything.this stupid acgae better get a life.their attempt to disunite JYJ/JYJ fandom just ridiculous.even though i was offended by the fans on this site , i still hope this rumor doesnt break the bonding.JYJ/JYJ stans must unite.
I support the request for official clarification and provision of equal information to all fansites. At this point, all we can do is wait for an appropriate response. In the meantime, let’s take the opportunity to cool down, remember why we’re here and reflect on how the issue could have been better handled.
We support all three members of JYJ. We might not love them equally but nonetheless, we want them all to do well. As fans, our role is to support them in their respective endeavours (within our own comfort levels), but never to overstep boundaries or attempt to enforce our ideas upon them. Let us respect them as individuals and not let our love become a burden.
This fandom is incredibly diverse and does not speak with one voice. Even the fansites are not reliable representations of majority fans’ intents. Therefore, let us not generalise unnecessarily or feel inclined to pin the blame on any party. Each of us has our own stands and beliefs, different paths that led us to this fandom, but we come together for one reason. We have survived floods of attacks in the past, we will make it through again. Yet, it is not wise to allow ourselves to scrape through battered and beaten down. As we struggle to find common ground and to draw out the boundaries of coexistence, let us not give way to maliciousness or self-interest.
P.S: my apologies if I sound like I’m preaching.
The last paragraph: AMEN TO THAT.
It’s a burden enough with all the bad things surrounding JYJ, we don’t need anymore negativity within ourselves. We all love the same group and the same people, don’t we? I understand that some people are only fans of one or two members, but is it really necessary to stir trouble and to cause disunity among fans, the company and the members? What is there to achieve? In the end, who will get hurt most, isn’t it JYJ themselves?
JYJ are like brothers – always have been. I hope that next time, before any of these so called “acgae” fans act, they think about their biases and what they would say or how they would feel knowing their own fans are attacking and spreading malicious rumors against their brothers.
We’re all in this together, whether you are a fan of just one member or the whole group, because JYJ are together. JYJ is a group, and they love each other and they gather strength from each other. Isn’t it for the best that we, their fans, follow their example and gather strength from each other too?
Anyway, I hope this doesn’t escalate any further. I really don’t want the fans to be the cause of problems between the members.
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In summary, JJ & YC both are the scapegoat of this dramatic “JYJ Scandal”, ironically the Directors and scriptwriters are from JYJ own talented fans. Sadly the both scapegoat are out of blue being attacking blatantly to nowhere. They are just unlucky indeed
Kat-Tun used to be a very popular Japan Band which ever held 8 consecutive days concert in Tokyo Dome. Subsequently one member decided to withdraw for solo activity and fans started to divide followed by no endless fan wars. In the end their album (the 5 remaining members) selling was dropped drastically from million records to not even 100k copies sold for the first day sale, the solo also failed. The solo was claimed to be the most talented in the group who could dance & sing well besides composing songs. A talented young guy who supposed to have a bright future waiting for him was eventually “killed” by the stupid fan wars and the division.
I do not intend to bash or undermine any of your bias. Anyhow we can’t stop it if each bias fans wish to push their own bias for solo but you may wish to ponder the incident happened lately on Big Bang. Though I am long winded but I still want to remind you all, UNITE WE STAND, DIVIDE WE FALL. Splitting among fans is the worst situation and detrimental especially to idol group.
JYJ is the first Korean band I know and admire but soon later I learnt they were banned in the media, followed by sasaeng case and their movie unable to show as scheduled…etc I wonder other Kpop groups also having this much of “challenges” as what JYJ has to go through and the fan war is the most recent & explosive… I do not know if this is a common scenario happen in other idols’ fandom as well?
The recent launched Junsu’s MV barely got 100k views in a day, why we can’t show our support as what we did when he first launched his solo album? All because we JYJers are wavering and everybody seems start equipped with shield protecting their own bias and at the same time bashing to other’s bias. We use to bash those antis but look at what we are doing now!? The pot calling the kettle black. We are trying to “kill” their life span in the entertainment industry.
Dig out who are those culprits spreading the rumour, publish their names, alert to all JYJers and prohibit them from appearing in any JYJ related fan sites. Just my silly suggestion as I can’t think what is the best way to extinguish those acgae. (I am resist to call them fans!). Please be kind enough just let JYJ to have some break and peace of mind!
the moment when certain fans acted as if they are big hierarchy people.. which i truly feel like slapping them really hard…
we have JYJ antis all around and fully loaded of them everywhere…
now we haters within the JYJ fandom itself?? how awesome is this…
certain fans just deserve to be kicked!
and wait.. DEMANDING JAEJOONG TO APOLOGIZE???????????
WHUT!!! WHUT!! LIKE SERIOUSLY WHUUUUUUUUUUUUUT???
ooowh just gimme gun people…
I completely agree with your coment. I’m Yoochun bias but I think this is getting out of proportion, and acgae fans are succeding in their objective. Obviously they want all JYJ fans side with their bias and turn their back to their activities as a group. They are creating the sentiment among the fandom of protection of their bias against everything even their bandmates, many Yoochun or Jae bias are projecting their ‘hate’ toward the other member instead of the ones who created the rumours and as the time passes the things are getting worse.
My opinion as a fan is, I trust in the three of them, in their decisions as grown up men, sometimes may I agree, others may not but I don’t understand those fans who try to organize their lives. The source of rumours are always malicious individuals with bad intentions they can be acgae, homin stans, pro sm, I think all of them are enemies of JYJ as a group and any individual fan who love their bias must know how these 3 friends are battling against SM, AVEX,etc for almost 3 years together, the decision of being together was made by them so for those who can’t like the other two members at least respect your own bias decision.
For Jae bias I understand you are hurt and worried for him, but in my opinion he must be fine, the 3 boys have been in the industry for almost 10 years and they know there are hatefull people who waste their lives hating others, I think by now they take these rumours as part of they job of being a celebrity.
I must pressed the wrong button, this was @ruber
Thank you for your comment. I agree, we should believe in the decisions of the 3 and not try to meddle into their lives. We should support them, not create more burden.
i’m happy jyj fan union release this statement ! it’s clear that they are willing to go against everyone who dare to hurt jyj trio and it’s a great relieve , good job !
I don’t understand what’s the matter with Yoochun CF deal stolen by Jaejoong. Heck is there Jaejoong CF ? I don’t know if there’s one. I don’t surprised if invincible hands behind all of this.
Let’s just keep praying for all of them.
Man why is Jaejoong always the one to blame or the scapegoat when involving these petty fanwars? I mean if it’s concerning CFs then Jaejoong is definitely popular enough to get many on his own so i doubt he needs hand-me downs at all but looking at the whole situation it seems the fanwars are based on rumors and nothing more. I mean really? To use ur bias n hate on his members is not only wrong but stupid especially knowing that all three JYJ members care for each other like family. The ones who started this rumor about the CFs should apologize and clear Jaejoong’s name since fans are gullible enough to believe such groundless rumors in the first place. I mean if anything the members are adults who can make their own decisions so how can it be that fans are acting like kids? I honestly hope that fans n take a step back and realize how irrational/immature hating or wishing misfortune on another person is. Also stop blaming JFU for wanting answers cause they did nothing wrong and we seriously have to stop all the groundless rumors and Jaejoong blaming cause he doesn’t deserve that.
Come on, JFU did nothing wrong, they are not kids, they just demand CJes to give an explanation since the acgaes claimed that someone in CJes is involved. What’s wrong for them to defend JJ and clear his name?
I second your thought.
Poor Jaejoong. It is like having him on a target board whenever he has his project-momento. I am so happy that Jaejoong is strong enough handling all the mess surrounding him. Still… since we love him, we are not to sit silent or being ignorant. We rather be some rocks on the riverbank than calling ourselves fans if we are to stay quiet watching injustices reaching Jaejoong.
I am supporting JFU with their request. If anyone read their request without being prejudice, then they can see there is not a single wrongdoing in the request. JFU is asking for a proper answer and is pressing the demand now because CJes granted PYFU’s request and is delaying and considering and having whatever CJes is having now as a cause to their late respond to JFU.
I hope JYJ3 admins update this “RUMOR CONTROL” soon. From where I’m standing it looks decided one sided. Thank You.
yes, please kindly update the rumor control.
I believe the one sided you meant to say was from the fans union and not from CJes, and that Admins need to update the “RUMOR CONTROL” when there is an answer from CJes – Not one sided from a fans union against another fans union, because it is not helping in solving the problem but adding fuel to the flame.
I believe you both are good people who want a solution and not an extended chaos.
Feel free to correct me if you disagree with this.
For the love of ……..Enough is enough, folks. LET IT GO already.
If we allow these fanwars to continue, we JYJ-Nation will become the only collateral damage; and the true casualty of this will be JYJ themselves. All 3 of them.
An absolute truth in life I’ve leaned is that even if you can’t control the words/actions of others (however hurtful or wrong), we can and should always police our own.
Help mitigate potential damages from careless words. Take a minute to edit those sitting on the tip of your tongue and re-consider those you’re about to drop off on paper. In this emotionally-volatile times, frustrating as it might be, I ask that you please edit them for content and tone so they don’t come back to haunt you or become memories of regret long after your anger has subsided. Sometimes that is the only significant way we can impact the outcomes in this unjust world.
Even assuming Cjes was truly responsible as the root of how this entire debacle originated, our fan-wars have now evolved into the symptoms and sequelae. Nonetheless, the situation is still remediable since fans (having already done their part by putting Cjes on notice and bringing attention of concerns to Cjes’ notice) now hold THE key to containing and salvaging this disaster.
Worried about who gets more or which CFs versus another, are we? Do fans truly understand the basic business behind CFs and advertising?
Branding is ALL about media/public perceptions of a celebrity/product’s earned image/reputation and goodwill. This principle definitely also applies to the JYJ-brand (as solo members or the 3-unit).
SK and Japan are classic examples of Asian traditionalist societies that perceive any deviations from established social norms as potentially undermining to social order. Accordingly, JYJ’s battles with Sm/Avex is seen as a threat that not only challenges established foundations of the music/entertainment industries but possibly the safety/peace of the whole society. Sadly, this is also why it is all too easily “acceptable’ for such societies at large to punish these potentially anarchistic actions by shunning/blacklisting JYJ and treating them as social pariah who are enemies of the state/society.
Retailing advertisers hire/choose specific celebrities with specific traits or a branded image to represent and sell their products. Advertising success is achieved when consumers relate to the branded image of that spokes-representative, associate the sales product with that celebrity brand and go on to purchase that product.
EVERTHIHG JYJ does in public (concerts, musicals, albums, dramas, CFs, interviews on tv and magazines etc etc) WILL contribute to the JYJ-brand. Indirectly, so does the action or image of their fandom.
Anytime JYJ fans participated in charitable events in Korea and other countries, the general public/media takes note and basically adds a new positive score to the overall JYJ-brand tallying-scales. Conversely, anything negative (eg saesang and acgae fans) will influence public/media perception and thus, will negatively affect that scale.
OUR fan-actions (either online here or in public) intentionally or not, WILL also reflect upon the JYJ-brand and re-balance those same scales of public opinion that dictates commercial viability. Ultimately, that will affect JYJ’s success and survival. THIS is the meaningful way fans truly have any impact on whether JYJ (solo or as a unit) is selected by advertising retailers.
Having C-jes issue public statements may salve the wounded egos/feelings of involved fan-factions. However in the image-conscious societies of SK/Japan, such public acknowledgements of ugly fan-wars will only serve to further legitimize JYJ unfairly in their forcibly cast roles seen as rebels whose very existence breeds social discontent/disruption.
Forget damage-control; such action may very well spell the death-knell in JYJ’s ongoing battles to rebuild their reputations as positive role-models n SK/Japan. As unsatisfactory and inadequate as it may feel to fans involved, we MUST be more open to the options of working on improving communications behind the scenes and try harder to understand why C-jes have no choice but must keep their silence publicly.
Disregarding any involvement of acgae and antifans, this entire dispute might well have started out with the noblest of intentions. Unfortunately, like wildfires it has since spiraled out control and sadly degenerated into senseless, almost petty squabbles by fans with personal agendas who stubbornly nurture their resentments by reading shadowy slights and offensive nuances into every communications by their fellow fans.
More than Sm or Aves, WE JYJ-fans are the ones actually still seemingly vested in keeping this mess alive instead of letting it die a healing death.
And just WHY, are we? Perhaps all fans need to ask themselves that question, do some soul-searching and be prepared answer that honestly.
As fans, didn’t we all proclaim to have only JYJ’s interests at heart? Or do we have personal agendas that outweigh their ultimate collective interest?
Sifting through some of the more incendiary comments earlier today, I thought
“My God, since when did we JYJ fans become their worst enemies and not even realize it?”
JYJ-Republic is too intelligent and too valuable as a fandom to perpetuate this madness.
We MUST and CAN rise above all this senseless infighting.
We (most of us I believe) ARE mature enough and love JYJ enough to do so. There is simply too much at stake.
But first, we—ALL of us——must all humble ourselves and gather enough grace to LET IT GO, PLEASE.
Aaarrgh! Darn it.
Just realized that I’ve written another damn essay again after I swore I was long done with this painful topic. Lurking is so much more comfortable for me. Now I’ve to go in search for an aspirin for my headache and hand-cramps…….
Drat. Just proof-read and realized that “…fans (having already done their part by putting Cjes on notice and bringing attention of concerns to Cjes’ notice)” should read “and bringing their concerns to Cjes’ attention).
Where’s @ BAF, @lilli, ! Springbok et al——I’m hereby officially submitting my membership to join your esteemed Typo-R-Us Club!
I think I can speak for the other members of Typos ‘R Us, you are whole-heartedly welcome to join our esteemed club! The more the merrier! 🙂
MY Esteemed Sister! The Venerable Typos-R-Us Club salutes you! You’re IN! [Darn it! I still haven’t shown you guys what I type like first thing in the morning. It’s a sad sad commentary on how long I’ve been pecking away at a keyboard.]
I will share a modest cheater technique with you though… the Google Chrome browser has a built in spell-check that underlines no-nos in red so you can quickly fix them via a right-click feature that gives you possible REAL words. lol If not for that, you’d all be thinking, “That poor lilibaiyu…. Is she… er…. mentally challenged in some way?”
and ppl wonder why i am IN LOVE with google chrome! you spilled my secret too LOL! thuoght my typing skills are less than exemplary no wmatter what time of day or night it is. i am deliberately not proffing this prost just so that a 1AM post can demonstrate my exceltlent skills lol! though i must ay the stupid wordpress update that makes the textbox resize constantly, covering p half my text, is NO HELP to proofing something that im’ rtying to write. stupid wordpress!!! (lol wow pretty, lots of red in this pots)
Having a typo orgy are we? 🙂 Ok, I guess you decided not to give Google Chrome any play. 🙂 I’m slavishly attached to IE. The shifting up and down of the text in WP is annoying to me as well. Sometimes a scroll bar on the side comes up, most times it doesn’t. I’ve taken to using the arrow keys for my up/down efforts. My other option? Use my wordprocessng app, write my comment and then copy/paste, especially it if will be a long one.
Some days you feel like a nut, some days you don’t! 😉 Cheers!
Yes ma’am! You would have laughed your ass off watching type it too, after i said i would not edit it, i kept automatically editing and then undoing my edits HAHAHAH!
Anyway, my escape from bouncing wordpress text boxes is to type up the post in an email and then paste it into the wordpress and then just kill the email without sending it. but seriously, i really feel like writing a very nasty email to wordpress about this thing. i already have tired eyes and have to deal with staring at the dang computer all day thanks to my job, their jack-in-the-box text stuff just drives me bonkers! argh! is it their evil plan to try and save money on servers and bandwidth by subtly discouraging us from posting stuff?!? GRRR!
Thank you for such an awesome post. Each time I decide to throw in the towel, a post such as yours, or those from @Sapphire and @Lilibaiyu from yesterday refresh and jump start me again and remind me, why I’m still here. It is because I love the three men that make up JYJ. I came for the music, but I stayed for their brotherhood and because their fight for truth and justice resonated with me. I sincerely, thank you for this post.
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“Thank you for such an awesome post. Each time I decide to throw in the towel, a post such as yours, or those from @Sapphire and @Lilibaiyu from yesterday refresh and jump start me again and remind me, why I’m still here.”
Wow, thank you Lisan for that lovely compliment. (I haven’t had one of those for a while…lol) Reading your journey to JYJ above I realized we really have a lot in common. My path was so similar to yours. And I’m not going anywhere either. I am in this until JYJ triumphs against SM & AVEX and they can pursue their artists’ way freely. And then I’ll settle back and purely enjoy what they do.
Aja Aja Fighting! 😀
Thank you for the compliment. 🙂
“I came for the music, but I stayed for their brotherhood and because their fight for truth and justice resonated with me.” AMEN!
I was spending the morning trying to put together these exact same thoughts. You have done a magnificent job of clearly articulating what is at stake.
The irony of this is that in in two weeks 20,000 JYJ fans will descend on Seoul at the invitation of JYJ themselves to celebrate at a party paid for and hosted by JJ themselves as a way to say Thank You to the Fans for their continued support.
At this moment from a business perspective does anyone think that CJES should make a public statement and legitimize to the media that the fandom is in chaos as they are about to host this event. The media just announced that the event for JYJ fans will generate billions in won revenue for Seoul. How humiliating will it be if the media picks up and runs with the story “JYJ Fans Engaged in Internal Fan War over which Member is the Best!” See that is the type of headline the media will create because it sells.
If you want your bias to succeed you must look beyond the forest to the trees. You must consider the Big Picture. The stakes for JYJ are huge!
This is about the preservation of the JYJ Brand Long Term! For those who are continuing to conflict.. Please STOP NOW. Before the JYJ Brand is permanently tarnished.
Thanks again @livingfree1 very well written.
>>>> beyond the TREES for the FOREST…. You must consider the Big Picture.
Thanks, @ BAF @lilibaiyu
Also must admit something embarrassing. I get so frustrated with writing that I sometimes click “post” just to get it over with, only to realize belatedly that I have not review it for typos yet.
Memo to self——It really does not help to proof-read AFTER one has clicked onto the “post comment” button. *face-palm*
Your “hiney” in place of “honey” is pure GOLD.
Oops, thanks @ruber @OnlyJYJ too.
Don’t know where my other post went, so am re-posting it:–
Thanks @lisan @Sapphire @Living for JYJ @loveunchanged @everyone for your kind words. I was actually bracing to duck from thrown bricks for my long essays.
May I interest anyone else in some aspirin (or a crash-helmet) for the headaches many of us here are experiencing from banging our heads on the walls of obstinance?
🙂 “jhad” “infidel dogs” “collateral damage” Just have to say that post was Epic! Captured it for posterity! 🙂
My post you are mentioning was exaggerated intentionally. (Mostly because i was frustrated at that point and that was not right) I tried to bring my point over, that radicalization normally brings sour fruits in return. Than I used a clear sarcasm (I even commented that it is a sarcasm, to not confuse others) with the intention, maybe in that way people would stop for a moment to try to think about it from my point of view. I hinted on a analogy: Faith can help a person, but when an institutionalled church goes too radicalised in hands of irresponsible people, it can end fatally. My country witnessed it during several hundert years of bloody wars between catholics and protestants.
I’ve learnt so much from your posts. Thank you for showing us what it means to be a true JYJ fan.
So much sense. Yet, you’ll realize there are no ears to listen to this sense. It’s the sad truth.
And we were so happy that a scholer wrote about us, “The republic of JYJ”, in such awesome words and presented us beautifully at the University of Michigan symposium. What a shame! It seems we are nothing like what that beautiful paper said about us.
Every new nation goes through periods of civil strife. Those that survive, and learn from the experience, some out stronger for it. I think JYJ fans are, for the most part, on the same learning curve as C-JeS and JYJ. They are fantastic 90% of the time, but when there is a disaster, it’s a doozy You can’t learn without mistakes.
My hope is that this episode shows the disruptive nature of all the cliques and factions that fandom seems to separate itself into. The “fan union” idea was steering things in the right direction but it’s a three steps forward – two steps back process. The comforting(?) thing is that it isn’t just fandom, this is the behaviour of any loose federation of groups trying to achieve cohesiveness. Look at the mess in Europe. And the United States and Canada haven’t perfected it either, although each have taken a different and, I feel, equally successful approach. Having a common enemy helps (Ireland), but unless you have 500 years to seal that bond, the lines between the factions will still remain.
And maybe it’s just the herd instinct of the human animal, to clump together, and it’s not something that needs to be eliminated but simply understood.
Standing ovation from me. 🙂 You’ve said you hate writing essays because it takes you so long, so I’d like to thank you for writing this one. & thank you for educating me more on the attitudes & differences in culture in SK & Japan compared to where I live. I’ve recently come to the conclusion that as much as we love JYJ, many of us, myself included, are very unaware of the basic fundamental differences between the cultures & business practices of SK/JP compared to what we’re used too, or what we expect. That doesn’t mean we should over-look injustices, but you have made it more obvious, for me at least, that it is just as important HOW we go about protecting & supporting JYJ & the individual members, as that we do support & protect them. There is obviously a lot of corruption & exploitation in S Korea, (just as there is in my own country), but it is becoming increasingly clear that it is vital to JYJ’s on-going success, if not outright survival, that we stay aware of our own words & behavior when defending/protecting/supporting them, lest we inadvertently cause more problems for them instead.
i’m sure they’d be singing a different tune had this happened to their bias…
Having been in JYJ3 from about 2 months after this site was started, I can confidently tell you that many of us pleading & calling for calm are in fact passionate Jaejoong biases who are very protective of him, including myself, @lilibaiyu, @lisan & many more. For the record, I can also confidently state we also love, admire & respect Chunnie & Junsu, individually & as integral members of JYJ.
I don’t think our dear @eimarebiro히라 was referring to you or any mentioned names my dearest.
Surely there are fans who badmouth others while depending their bias. That is why JFU did their ‘demand’, because PYFU were only requesting for Chun’ sake and not Jaejoong (I leave Su out of this because Su was not even in this from the beginning, not because I don’t like him) too.
You might want to say we are all JYJ fans and must speak for JYJ only. True… and that is what we are supposed to do, but reality bites, and the reality tells us that fans do not always do that. From what we read in comments on this page, some fans are surely having different opinion.
@eimarebiro히라 said that because she saw that here.
I know there are fans who defend their bias by attacking the other two members, & those members fans – that’s what started this sh*tfest in the first place. I also know that there are many fans in JYJ3 who don’t love all 3 members which, as long as they respect the other two & the love all three of JYJ share, I have no problem with. It’s partly because of this that I’ve been asking everyone to calm down & try not to post provocative or outright inflammatory comments that could cause more fighting here in JYJ3. We like to think of ourselves as a family, but even the closest & most loving of families are made up of individuals who don’t always think, feel, believe or behave in the same way. & nor do they have too. But we can agree to disagree civilly without make snide remarks or throwaway accusations that are only going to cause more tension & outbursts.
Sorry if I sound impatient or fed up Jae-is-Mine. My flu is coming back, my head hurts, my eyes are spinning & I feel nauseous. & I have to go to work in 3.5 hours = lovely……
I love JaeChunSu, but not equally. My bias is very clear and loud. Yes it is true that there is never a problem with loving 1 member more than the other 2 as long as we respect them all, but I myself got enough hate because I love Jaejoong more. So, saying that all fans are okay with that is not always correct.
Provocation works both way. Jaeharems have been accused of being over protective because we support JFU and say it out loud. I don’t think anyone who supports something decent and be called as ones who created all the mess be able to sit still and doing nothing. I will call it ignorant. Be a rock instead.
We are indeed a big family here and love each other. But loving does not mean that we are being slapped and smile as a respond.
Love is not all about happy and cheerful. Love is taking care about our loved ones when injustice approaches them. That is what JFU is doing, and that is what our stance will stay, supporting JFU in getting the answer.
I think Jaeharems are also avoiding hurting words in our comments, but sometimes it can not be done when we also receiving hurting words from others.
Don’t worry about you sounded impatient or fed up my dear. I also did not mean to exclude you from Jaeharems by saying us or our. And I love you always! Get enough rest after work and stay away from things that give you headache.
Remember…. you maybe younger than me…. but you can easily get wrinkles if you stress yourself out. And grey hair too….
The way you talk is largely the root of the problem. You keep saying “we” this and “we” that. I am a Jaejoong fan and I don’t do any of those things you say “we” do. I don’t support any of those fan unions or any of this idiotic kerfuffle. Please learn to speak for YOURSELF and not for anyone else. Part of the reason groups of fans keep attacking other groups of fans is because some individuals do exactly what you’re doing now and turn themselves into representatives of people they do NOT represent.
Last post then I walk away.
You love the idol then you became a fan not because the fans inside the fandom so why I finding people are difficult to choose the best way to stand by their lovely idol. For me I do not want accidentally became enemy of my beloved JYJ so I choose to think wider and keep silence . I do not want to destroy their reputation just because of these fans issues and fans emotion. Fan are fan that all, don’t step over. G9
Look like im da only here who doesnt hv a clue abt all this… Hehe..
Oh well…as long theres no problem amongs the members…
No, you’re not the only one. I’ve been reading everything for 5 days and I still don’t really understand what the fuss is about. Other than the fuss itself. *shrug*
Please avoid to spam this post with other themes…Go to ODP or GAPP instead.
i’ve been trying to post this but idk why the post isn’t up yet.
admins, there’s an official supplement explanation regarding the latest announcement by pyc fan union, posted in pyc dc two days ago (i’ve been trying to attach the link but it doesn’t work? idk why). and there’s already a translation in yoochun fansite, but you might want to translate it yourself. would you please kindly put it up? as you serve as rumor control here.
We aren’t allowed to share any translation from that Fansite.
And also we only shared OFFICIAL Statements and omitted the rest information. If we post PYC Gall last statement then we also need to post JJ Gall and later JYJ Fan Union. This will not end. Let’s leave those arguments to the korean Fans.
wow…some fandoms really run like businesses from all the inquiry and stuff…honestly maybe with the exception of junsu, i really want to see JYJ challenge themselves not only in acting…they have so much potential in them that they are not exercising…seriously i don’t really get C-Jes or maybe its JYJ decision whatever…anyway i hope all the rumours have been put to rest and and no more attacks towards anyone in JYJ(=
…and junsu acgae fans just chilling in the back.
Never mind the acgae’s. I’m just grateful Junsu hasn’t been dragged into this sh*tfest too.
Junsu is such a lucky guy, he s free from delusional shippers, sasaengs and acgaes merciless treatment to a celebrity.
Jaejoong got a grand slam of those craziness.
Though we may have personal bias, 3 members are all simply awesome in their own way aren’t they? It’s more awesome as they become JYJ (we do know fr the beginning till now how JYJ more like family) so it’s just saddening such issue could happened.. Let’s take this as lesson for next time being better, to strengthen the bond of JYJ & fans..hwaittang!!! ^
geeezzz actually feel a bit angry inside as this happened when we’re happily anticipating their comeback in SK
These fan unions are despicable. The business of CF deals are private and are NOT the business of fans. JYJ fans have no right to ask for information leading to business deals concerning JYJ members. I hope C-JES say ‘MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS, FANS NEED TO LEARN THEIR PLACE.’ They are just fans, not family, not managers and especially not guarding angels.
So here comes the JYJ Fan Union statement, so people who are jabbing JFU, can you do the same with the JYJ Fan Union?
I hope people would reflect first before they write some hidden/subtle digs to JFU to stop provocation and further conflict. If we want a united fandom, then we should respect each other, let’s stop the righteous attitude and being judgmental. Or we might assess ourselves first, our capacity as a fan, what have we done remarkable for JYJ fandom so far. Have we done something more than what the JFU and JYJ Fan Union have done to support and protect JYJ? Are we in SK, Japan, China and other places represented by these people? Or we’re just mere browser in the internet. This is JYJ3 so naturally there are a lot of supporters of JFU here, so it’s an appeal to stop judging JFU using that shield “for the sake of JYJ” , now that here’s the JYJ Fan Union statement, we’ll see what’s the next jab, hope there’s none so we could move forward peacefully.
@kris Thank the Lord you’ve said it. Yes, people, especially the hypocritical and the condescending few here or elsewhere, the fact that JYJ Fan Union, which comprises of the most prestigious JYJ domestic fanclubs – DNBN, JYJ19, Ikadong, and Nameless, has spoken up to demand clarification and explanation from CJes as well as to urge the agency to take action against the rumor-spreaders affirms the seriousness of this issue that you can’t just simply shrug off regardless of how righteous the flag you’re waving appears to be.
first of all.no offense meant. im a huge jyj fan. but im not the kind of fan who mingles with their personal life. im all about their music. its just that i think this problems arose because of the fans itself. i know fans are a big part of an artists life but lets face it… not all there decisions will please us. actually ive never heard about this issue until fans reacted to it. issues like this only spreads because we react to it. and thats what anti fans want. we are just letting those haters win. i hope in the future well just keep rumors as rumors and not over react to it. and in my opinion i think that the solo activities are equally divided amongst members. separation has already happened before with the 5 of them, lets not make another one this time.
waiting for Cjes statement translation to be up soon. thanks.
why admin not yet read the CJes statement : http://www.c-jes.com/ko/news/detail.asp?document_no=83&seq=216&searchType=&searchStr=
also there already the translated too in tumblr, or just me who late to follow this news in JYJ3?
Being that this issue has affected all branches of the JYJ fandom, there is a teeny part of me that wishes that CJES would have put up that post on their english version site as well…. sigh! but at least they have quashed all things period. I hope that this puts an end to these crazy shinanigens, but somehow I’m not holding my breath!
of course, those misunderstanding must stop now, and prepare for the next project ( the important is the June 19th was biggest trial JYJ vs SME)
Just by reading what JJ and YC message on phone that JJ tweeted show how much they love and cherish each other and look at what JS tweeted too.. JJ and YC really proud of him… these show just how importance they’re to each other…. how those damn acgae can do this kind of thing is just selfish.. they aren’t even fans of YC or JJ because if they are they won’t do this kind of thing….
Hello everyone remember we are one big family hugz ^^
Wait I’m confused…What happened?!!
I havent been on the forum for about a week now, is everything okay?!!
I’m sorry to have to say thiis but why is it that some Chun bias fans are the craziest? Honestly, as an international fan even I’ve noticed this, even in other websites chun fans seperate themselves from JYJ as if Chun isn’t a part of JYJ and there’s always abuuse towards Jae. I don’t get it! As a fan of many years Jae’s obvious bias towards Chun is evident so this whole thing is so many kinds of bullshit. I just wish some Chun fans would calm down, he’s his own person yes but he is a part of JYJ and bashing his brothers is downright pathetic, that’s not protecting him. Its just so strange that generallly junsu and jaejoong bias’ are normal and its the yoochun fans that always get crazy. I feel sorry for Yoochun and especially towards Jae to get slandered in such a way. But mainly I’m just baffed by all this stupidity. I wish these people didn’t claim to be fans at all, they offend me so bad being a major fan of all 3 I cannot fathom the thoughts of such people who make their own bias look almost bad. I wish they’d all F off. As if JYJ fans haven’t had to go though enough, to attack eachother is downright the worst thing ever.
Phew!!! Finally everything is under control. Thank-you so much ..muah! muah! muah! for taking care of our peaceful environment ^^ and our sanity 😀
Also from my heart to Cjes, thank-you for clarify your position. You declared you official stance to JYJ fans very well. Now, there is no more confusion over CJes’s stand and my pov. A big hug for JFU, for having the back bone to stand up and put a stop to the malignant rumors.
like you @Cat95 i wanna give a big hug to JFU too.
I am a Yoochun’s bias. I do not follow Jae or Su at all. However, I have deep respect for them because Yoochun loves them. In this situation, Jae’s fandom have a right to do what they are doing in support of Jae. If the situation was vice versa, I will do the same thing as Jae’s fandom is doing and support Yoochun. However, please do not disrespect Yoochun’s fandom while you are supporting Jae. Acgae fans might have started these rumors, but don’t label it all as Yoochun’s fandom. Some fans love Su, some love Jae, some love Yoochun, and some loves all three…. let’s all support our own bias without backlashes.
“Jae’s fandom have a right to do what they are doing in support of Jae.if the situation was vice versa,i will do the same thing as Jae’s fandom is doing and support Yoochun.”
love your above comment so much.
WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH soooo many rumour.owch it hurt
i mean woahhhhhhh
As I stated before, I will ONLY believe in official statements released by Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu themselves, and their official representatives. Otherwise I will stay silent.
Finally C-Jes has spoken and I hope their official statement is sufficient enough to put the long debated issue to rest.
Dear brothers and sisters, let Peace envelope everyone’s heart and mind from hereon as it’s time for us to unite ourselves again in prayers & continue to pursue JYJ’s best interests, even in our diversity. Let’s trust JYJ and their decisions, which includes their relationship with C-Jes.
I fully agree to everyone who humbly declared that we DO NOT OWN JYJ. I do not own JYJ, I may be naughty in my comments in JYJ3 and I SINCERELY apologize if I offended anyone with those posts, but that’s only it. I still know my place under the sun and i am not delusional – both feet of mine are fully grounded on the reality that i am only an anonymous JYJ fan loving them from a far and supporting them in my own little way.
Let’s trust JYJ and continue to believe in their earnest desires to love us back in return through their hard work and quality forms of artworks. Let us also trust the agencies and people that JYJ trusts. Let’s be patient.
Thank you Admin for the posts and its translations, and for your reminders.
Why they can’t live in peace, why we can’t leave in peace? When something it’s going fine for our boys someone mess with everything. Oh God!
anyway, there’s another statement from jyj fan union posted just hours ago. https://twitter.com/DNBNofficial/status/216468509578891265/photo/1/large
the eng trans i mean. if it’s not updated here since cjes announcement is clear enough (?), at least you all can read it yourself.