Kim Jaejoong Fanmeeting in Nanjing
OMG I didn’t know I missed so much drama caused by YJS in Nanjing.
Where to begin… In addition to all the standard shit they did they hang a giant photoshopped YJ porn poster outside of the venue (Link 1, Link 2), which was seen by a lot of the crowd who went to see a major soccer match next door- there were 70000 soccer fans there that night.
The poster got on one of the major Nanjing newspaper the next day, and Jae became a laughing stock in the male dominated sports forums. A lot of pple are saying he’s gxx and disgustingly feminine, and there were many fans’ family were around the venue, some saw the posters and forbade their daughter to fangirl such idol going forward.
some YJS actually went as far as using this opportunity to reply in these forums and said yes Jae is gxx, and all his possessions were gifts from his hubby. I was so furious when I read about this in Baidu JJ bar, but now I feel so tired.
Oh and, they found out it was two YJS working with the promoter that delayed the ticket release until the last minute as they worked to increase no. of seats occupied by YJS and OT5ers while limiting the no of seats taken by Jae fans.
They even forced Jae to sign 100 autographs before they would “allow” him to pass the custom. These autographs were being sold online later. Then, to top it off some of them hired taxis and chased after Jae, waiving their YJ light signs in his face, caused a minor accident, then got of the car and engaged in physical fight in front of him. Hahahaha. This is so ridiculous it’s funny.
They also hid the lottery box where you put your ticket stubs. The B section (green ocean side) fans were asking staff where the box was and staff didn’t know/couldn’t find it and later, when JJ picked ticket stubs from the lottery box, only people from A section (the red ocean side) were chosen. Jae tried to get fans from B section but he couldn’t and even apologized to the fans T.T He shouldn’t be the one who has to apologize. What those “fans” did is really a disgrace.
Credits: Starfieldsho, The_little_pear via angelachau20
Kim Jaejoong Fanmeeting in Thailand
Note: I woke up feeling like I need to share with the world what I witnessed at the fanmeeting. I’ve written another fan account filled to the brim with wonderful memories I had while neglecting to mention certain inappropriate things that actually happened – I will do so right here. I’ll stick to the facts (between ** and **) in the first part while adding my personal comments later on.
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Incident No. 1: Shouting that Yunho is Jaejoong’s boyfriend
– This happened before the fanmeeting actually began. It was when fans started lining up to go inside the hall. There were booths that were set up outside – some selling contact lens, a small coffee shop and a booth for drinking water. Each booth has its own MCs to draw in customers. A male-female couple was MCing for the drinking water booth called “Chang Water”.
At one point, the male MC asked the fans “Does Jaejoong have someone special? (literally the word “girlfriend/boyfriend” – that word in Thai does not specify which sex it would be)”. A lot of the fans in the hall shouted “Yes!”. MC continued to ask “Who?” – Fans replied loudly “Yunho” while screaming and giggling. MC kept on asking “Which band is he a member of?”. A lot of people resoundingly answered “TVXQ”.
Incident No. 2: A Yunjae fan
– A few moments after the fanmeeting had officially started and we all settled in our seats, some people in the A2 zone (in the 4th or 5th row if I’m not mistaken) began pulling out their fans (a chinese-looking ones that when collapsed you can’t actually see what’s written on them). They opened those up. The fans were quite big ones in red with gold letters in Korean that read “Yunjae”. They waved those big fans throughout the fanmeeting.
Incident No. 3: Have you ridden a bear?
– This happened during a simple fan Q&A. This question was: Did Jaejoong get a chance to ride on an elephant? Jaejoong answered “No, I haven’t. However, I did ride on a horse and a camel”. Certain group of fans yelled up on stage for the MC to ask “Have you ridden a bear?” and began giggling. The MC did ask that question. When the translator translated for him, Jaejoong shook his head and answered “No, I haven’t”
Incident No. 4: Shooting Yunjae during break time
– It was right after a short clip from Protect the Boss and Dr. Jin was played on screen. The clip had ended and everyone went silent for a while because the light was still dimmed. Suddenly someone started shouting loudly “Yunjae!”, so some other began yelling “Kim Jaejoong” just as loud.
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Seriously, people…. I’m beyond appalled. The incident No.1 happened right after the organizer had just announced that fans who were wearing shirts from other bands unrelated to JYJ will not be allowed up on stage if chosen as a lucky fan. Why haven’t you learned what’s appropriate or not?
Incident No.3 was not a big deal, but it was obviously filled with ill intention. After the fanmeeting ended, someone tweeted to the MC asking if he knew the underlying innuendo of the “bear” question or not. MC tweeted back “I just played dumb. Otherwise, I’ll get in trouble for asking”. (source: https://twitter.com/Vj_Que/status/260772209654636546)
I’m sad these things happened at what-could-have-been-an-absolutely-perfect fanmeeting. I always consider myself quite a mature fan. I’ve never harassed shippers or OT5. Their choices and opinions were theirs and I’m not going to cross the line and tell them what to think or feel. This, however, was sheer public humiliation and the world needs to know of their inappropriate behaviors. This was all I could recall. There might be more, but I’m glad I wasn’t around to witness them.
Credit: Lookkaew_SK
what’s more disgusting than SM & Avex?
these unrespectful & obsessive freaks who claim theirselves as fans but acts as ANTIS!
hey just like you, they’re human too
don’t call people with such a name..
Yes, and as humans they’ve decided to humiliate another one publicly and spreading rumors of their believes… so the name is correct!
they’re humans all right,
but did they acted as humans during those times?
did they give respect when it was due?
you also know the answers right?
The world human doesn’t called for those with human shape , but to Any creation who have humanity act
And I don’t see that in all of this crap over there.
@fany for real?
are you sure they’re human? how could a human-being being so dumb and heartless?
disrespecting and disgracing at that level cannot be tolerated!
gender and sexuality are serious issue, not even one can judge a person about other’s
Really, now? While they may take the shape of a human, they do not use their minds like one, they don’t have the hearts like one, they don’t have manner/courtesy like one, they basically do NOTHING like one, normal human being. While anyone can fantasize and believe in whatever they wish (that itself, is already sick to some of us), what part of human do you see when they push those fantasies towards one other human being, who they claim to love? If fans are supposedly “human” then what of Jaejoong? Isn’t he one too? I’m not going to say whatever I think HE thinks, since I haven’t met him, but you do not go on rashly thinking he’s happy with what they’re doing. What we do know, is that he loves that his fans support and respect and love him, not shame or defame him in outsiders’ eyes. So anything outside of that is considered a “fan’s” lack of thinking and consideration or in other words, being selfish.
they obviously not human.. for treating in such way… coz if they are, they would have known, human got feelings, and shame..
which they dont!
If they deny another human being his rights to freedom, respect, & privacy; then no they are not humans.
Put yourself in his shoes and tell me how can this behavior be justified. no sane person would do that.
@fany
Yes, they are humans who wish to shock and humiliate our dear Jaejoong in public. What part of this is acceptable to you??
Are we fans of Jaejoong? Do we sit idly by and watch this happen over and over??
@vonz
Actually, the national peak soccer matches attendees number was 90,000 at least 😦
those younger idols working under same boy-boy lust love pls wake up ! Shinee , for example
see what have your “family alike company” done to your senior.
It all just makes us LOVE our guys MORE. Each time something is done by their adversary – the fans (us) just get stronger and Jae, Chunie and Junsu get MORE SUCCESS.. MORE LOVE.. MORE SUPPORTERS..MORE PUBLICITY..MORE MONEY..AND MORE POWER….so who is the biggest LOSERS then eh??? hmmm wonder who that would be…hmmm. 2 letters..SM …one word…Karma!!!!
actually jaejoong was asked about this, a staff from thailand asked him what he think
about people shouting Yunho
and he said that he feels happy when people still remember the other 2
because that make him think that he must never lost his faith ♥
Jeezz, now we have to deal with fabricated fanaccount also??? “A staff from Thailand ” also asked JJ what he think about people shouting Yunho and you know what he said? He said that it’s totally disrespectful. Stop spreading rumors!! You just stooped down to a whole new level.
1. Please site sources for information of this nature.
2. The question places him in a difficult position of alienating fans that have been with him since the beginning and seems out of place for a staff member to ask such a question when they were hired to organize a promotional event for JJ and just JJ.
3. Saying the duo’s names, while inappropriate, childish, and rude, is not the same thing as screaming the shipping name. I think shipping is harmless fun but when you go around like a deluded person that cannot separate your fantasy from reality and try to force your fantasy to be true at the expense of the dignity, reputation and honor of another; I consider that to be very harmful and hateful.
@noni
where this fanaccout
I never heard before I’m JYJThaifan
if he happy why the organizer announced that fans who were wearing shirts from other bands unrelated to JYJ will not be allowed up on stage
about his faith I think he explain serveral times what “faith” that he means
@ noni, sorry sweety but i don’t buy this one… 🙂
Maybe when you ‘ll stop making up stories and spread them with such a shame ,people may have some respect to you and consider your sadness about the Oh… So long time ago break up!
So you said he is happy with people remind him of other two huh! Emm then if this even make sines to you, why wouldn’t he allowed any TVXQ,yunjae T-shirt and goods the venue ? Or even why he didn’t object or show any discomfort when the girl with TVXQ shirt wasn’t accepted to play the game ! …. Sorry but each day and knight OT5 gets so small in my eyes for forcing their wishes on JYJ.
yeah right, and pigs fly. If he’s so accepting of that crap, why are shippers’ materials deemed inappropriate and banned from being brought into the venue? The persistent ones had to sneak them in and became everyone else’s pain in the arse. Based on Jaejoong’s reaction in Nanjing FM, he wasn’t amused even a little bit.
“Based on Jaejoong’s reaction in Nanjing FM, he wasn’t amused even a little bit” – and fans who came to Nanjing fanmeeting didn’t get anything.
@Angie – hi, i trust that some mischievous fans at the venue can’t totally represent other quality fans in China. Besides some intentional harm, guess the MV was really sad with real gal’s narration in Korean, Chinese, Japanese. Also , the song – “For you” ,
the original singer Im jae bum disclosed his miserable life in 2011 ( he was in deep depression, wife suffered thyroid cancer, 2 children only got thin clothing and no heat gas during deep winter , income is only Won 7700 a month from his song writing. etc)
That is a big strike in Korea in 2011, such a legendary singer, such a tragic way of living. This may cause Jae feeling bad for this
senior.
And let’s not underestimate the toughness of any artists , who have been in this career for 9 years.
All well trained artists can survive even the worst performing venue, such as at casinos, nightclubs etc.
***Recently, read a piece of blog of a Japanese friend of JYJ. He wrote about Junsu at Indonesia solo concert, the situation was nothing better than Jaejoong FM . ( He said 8-Oct Para Game humiliation, was another surprise to him to see Junsu handle so well without much facial grumble.)
If Junsu survived , so does Jaejoong. And , obviously in $ term, Junsu may record a negative figure, but Jae surely got a positive one.
It is Jae needs to adjust himself, instead of being overwhelmed. And by doing so , cjes need to step in to make ” things” more orderly and favorable for JYJ, Jae to work about.
(This is only my own opinion )
What happen with Junsu in his Indonesia solo concert?
@Jacky – a Japanese long term fans / bloggers wrote something about audience & some venue arrangement. Since this topic is about Jae. So sorry for not extending too much here.
Honey, I am Thai and I was there. WHAT YOU SAID DID NOT HAPPEN!!! Get it to your head, please. Before the event there was an annoucement regarding shirts, banners, fanswith other idol names which were not allowed to be on stage. There was one fan not allowed to be on stage by that rule. The request was from C-JeS. Do you think Jae would not have a say in this? That is so humiliating. Try putting yourself in Jae’s place, seeing if it is fun to be called gay in front of the whole world, in front of his peers, his bussiness partners.
Seriously, what you said is a proof as how YJS is trying so hard to fabricate things. Keep it in your fanfics, will you?
@noni omg after you read that you still have the brave to comment like that..something wrong with your head. now i know why yunjae shipper can act like that. no shame on their action. they have problem in their head. No need to argument with people like that, useless…your comment proof of that!! The only thing to shut down yunjae shipper is ACTION…I promise to my self if I come to JYJ events and see/hear something that are not JYJ related, I will torn and shut their mouth..I dare you yunjae shipper to not RESPECT JJ/JYJ again and you will be humiliated. PEACE!!
Sorry for my poor english..
can’t you be a little bit smarter?
you so represent YJ freaks typically!
brainless!
@ noni
I am at the Fanmeeting yesterday. I am sure that “No” staff from thailand said Somethink Like that.And Jaejoong did not say anything about Homin too. Stop spreading rumors
@ Lookkaew_SK Agree with you. Many Thaifans dispressed with the silly act of YunJae ThaiFan at Fanmeet yesterday. However, It was a wonderfull Fanmeeting.
@noni
“actually jaejoong was asked about this, a staff from thailand asked him what he think
about people shouting Yunho
and he said that he feels happy when people still remember the other 2
because that make him think that he must never lost his faith ”
Ridiculous. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such bullshit as if it were the truth.
not all yjs or ot5 acted like that..
But if you defending their actions, means that you approve that kinda behavior..
I believe that not all ot5 like that, but yjs are def a freak..
I don’t think that she’s defending yjs. She’s just saying that not all fans are so disrespectful and obsessed.
nah, not all yjs are freaks. sure, there are a lot of freaks among them. but there are also a lot of freaks among ot5, jyj-stans, homin-stans…and in pretty much other fandom. (and yeah i did just see a few freaks on this comment page.)
i am a yj-shipper. do i think it’s right what those yjs did at the fm? no. i think it’s very disrespectful and also embarrassing for the person who does it -.- i think shipping is like believing. something you do quietly at home. something you should not bother the public with.
@Rakuzzie
Done quietly in private, who can tell you what to do or not do? It is the PUBLIC humiliation and sexual harassment that must STOP. This is just wrong. Jae doesn’t want it or deserve it.
Let me tell you something a basket that is full of rotten apple no one will buy it even if it have some good there .
every yj fans are pathetic! get a boyfriend & and tell him to fulfill your fantasies
leave alone this boy..enough is enough
stop bullying their friends (guys or girls)
stop living in a fantasy world of fanfics
who you think you are to tell him that he can only be with your dear oppa?
wake up…your oppa and Jaejoong even are not friends anymore
stop with this shit
Jaejoong don´t deserves it
not all OT5 sounds legit, but not all YJS? are you f*cking kidding me?
once they ship JJ and the-name-I-cant-mention, it means they just disgracing JJ! can you think more b4 stating something?
YJ shippers go to the burning hell. you idiots.All these things happen to our joongie not to Yunho.
This happened to yunho too btw tho I wish I remember where I saw the posts…including highly sexual pictures n banners. But maybe not as much. Oh poor Joongie had to endure such shippers everywhere he goes…make me sick!
Wow wtf, some of these comments are truly disgusting. Not all YJS are like this, speaking as one, I’m appalled at this kind of crap that happened. Saying YJS should go to hell? That just really saddens me, you’re just as bad as them.
Yes the YJS here took it too far and I can even say myself that they are delusional. For me, YJ was always a possibility, if Jaejoong loved Yunho (in that way), I’d support him 100% but if he didn’t and hes straight/bisexual and marries a woman, I’d still support him 100%. YunJae is as much a romantic relationship as it is a platonic friendship.. For some YJS they give us a sense of security that they will be OT5 again, to know that their bond was strong. Same with every other shipping (JaeMin etc). I love Jaejoong, I love JYJ, I love HoMin and DBSK! I would never want them to feel bad, these YJS went a step too far.
These YJS give other YJS a bad name and they ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE of our fandom!
The typical cynical yj shipper : “I love YJ bcuz DBSK will be DBSK again bcuz YJ” lol “YJ will make a miracle” LOL
oh stop lying or fooling people lol ,you guys even dont care DBSK..you guys only cares your yunjae fantasy or your yunjaemin family (of course changmin was the son.. right? lol)
lies,lies and lame excuses again..
DBSK were 5 boys,5 BOYS! DBSK were not only 2 boys..you even think about Junsu or Yoochun opinions? you listen them? you read them? …you think you will have DBSK together again bcuz yj? PURE LIES again
and yoochun? and Junsu?
of course who cares them? who cares their opinions? Yoochun want to be DBSK again so much LOL LOL LOL
YJ bond was so strong ..yeah! that´s why they are together now lol
oh ,no..Jaejoong is with YC and JS in JYJ …he left his hubby lol
woahhh such big love had yj..surely they will make the miracle LOL
Yes, and maybe a person like you would need that thin and weak string of attachment to get a sense of security, alone, on social website accounts, in fanfics, whatever. The issue we are addressing from this article is that people (whom you are generally grouped with for posting comments like that) who actually try to defame him in front of people who are not even in the fandom, and thinks he’s happy with it. I cannot say what Jaejoong really thinks, and the same thing should go with YJS and OT5’s. NOBODY knows for sure what Jaejoong wants, what he thinks, what he dislikes, and that is why we should not push our own desires or claims or fantasies or “truth” onto him like a selfish brat. We’re just his fans, all we can do is support him but let’s be a bit more considerate by not thinking too selfishly, shall we? Jaejoong belongs to himself, he will not do unfavorable things like a robot just because his fans want him to (though sometimes he’s kind enough to endure that because he loves his fans). We see him as a person and an artist. Period. Did he say he was gay? Did he say he loves Yunho “in that way”? No. So who are Yunjae shippers to do such a bold thing? Where does the confidence come from? And people wonder why they are deemed delusional…..
We know that some YJS aren’t this way, surely some of them use brains like a mature and rational person, but people of the entire opposite exist as well and the worst part is that these people boldly do what they like thinking it’s the right thing, when even a bystander finds it deluded and disgusting. They may not deserve to go to hell, but they do need a lesson or two to know where they stand if they claim to love Jaejoong so much. By all means, attend the FM. But why do what’s written in this article? The exact reason why YJS and OT5 are not very welcomed.
Man I am so tired of JYJ (only) fans, its like you don’t even know the history of DBSK, the hardships they’ve been through, how close their bond is and how the fandom was pre-break up. I am almost 100% sure that JYJ wants to go back to being DBSK (with HoMin but not with SMent), even as a JYJ only fan you should see that enough in their lyrics heck even on Jaejoong’s twitter it says (JYJ from DBSK) and his tattoo says TVfXQ. They are DBSK members forever, they have ALWAYS said “without one member we are not DBSK.” JYJ IS DBSK and I have and always will be a Cassiopiean.
You asked if he’s said anything about loving Yunho “in that way”, I could turn that around and say have they ever denied it? It only takes one small comment to deny it. Of course there’s “evidence”…what.. *sigh* I’ve said enough about YJ, I don’t even know why I’m arguing with close minded people. I would like it if Orions/HolyShinkis aka Cassiopieans could just get along, JYJ don’t want their fans fighting. There are only 2 types of JYJ/DBSK fans that should go to hell, literally and they are “sesaeng” and “anti-fans”. I’m done. This site is not friendly at all.
@Lemon, this is simply crazy that the shippers ty to “prove” on every instance that these people are in some kind of love couple relationship and have sex with each other. Proof? Jesus man, open your frigging eyes. What proof? That they hold hands in front of the camera and look affectionately at each other? Ever heard of ‘bromance marketing’? This is what K-pop famously does, and they do that to lure fangirls into buying merchandise beyond crazy. Do you know these people personally? Ever met them personally and saw them kissing, or something? If you only saw them on TV doing these, and suring promotions and public events, it means frigging nothing. These kids have an image, and bromance is part of it. All boybands do this. Don’t you realise that if these things in aaal of these boybands would be real, it would mean that 90% of the K-pop industry is gay? Which would be totally unrealistic. I am sure gay artists do exist among idols, but I am also 100% sure that neither me or you or any ‘shipper’ would ever get to know this. This whole ‘proof’ thing is beyond ridiculous already…. And even if they did feel like that for each other, it’s their business, and I am pretty sure they wouldn’t go public with it, just like idols try to hide their dating as well. It’s their business, not yours, not mine, not these stupid mindless fangirls’ either. Mind your own business, watch the youtube videos to yourself and get excited at your own amusement but don’t fucking STATE that YunJae exists, because you don’t know these people, you only know the image they portray as an artists. It’s two fucking different world. we are talking about. And that’s an unni telling you who has seen some serious popstar shit when she was working in the industry (not in Korea).
@ lemon
you don’t seem to know much about dbsk either ..
they did deny it before ( in the couple talk and FM ) so … good bye .
No, what those YJS did are disgusting, and they deserve it when they purposely anger other people. Funny how every time YJS get called out for their actions, there will be at least one popping out and defending that “not all YJS are like this.” It’s not like only a very small number of them are crazily obsessed with their ship nor is this the first time they’ve done these nasty things. They come in large number okay? The shippers who went to these FMs also got the cheers and support from other shippers. So, I’d like to ask you, what did the so-called sane YJS do when all of these happened? Don’t care? Turn a blind eye? Silently cheering for mission accomplished? If there’re YJS who also find this kind of crap offensive, why don’t they talk to their fellow fans and prevent it from happening? You let the bad guys be vocal and bring bad image to your fandom, then don’t complain why people see your fandom in a negative light.
Also, don’t try to justify their actions. YJS aggressively insist that YJ are real and don’t accept any other possibility. If it was just to give them a sense of security that there would be a reunion, they wouldn’t need to go as far as display rated posters of YJ in public and harass Jaejoong with their fantasy every chance they have in every single one of his event. Whether YJ are real or not doesn’t have anything to do with a reunion. Most YJS are simply delusional fangirls with twisted, dirty minds.
I wasn’t justifying their actions, me and my YJS friends in real life and on tumblr think that what happened was disgusting. Okay perhaps a small percentage of YJS are like us, but saying that ALL fans are crazy like those YJS is incorrect. Did you even read? I said what I feel about YunJae and how the YJS I know feel about YunJae. It does have something to do with a reunion. YunJae, JaeMin, YooMin, 2U, SuMin etc They were given these names because of their bond, if I stop believing in YunJae then I might lose some faith that they will ever get together. (I mentioned before that YunJae is the name for the romantic and/or platonic relationship)
Of course, us “foreign” YunJae fans are disconnected from asian YunJae fans who get to meet JYJ more often than the rest of the world. As much as I’d like to, I and many others can’t do anything about it. I have never even met JYJ or DBSK as a whole, they have only come to an airport in my country once, So perhaps what happened is representative of the YunJae fandom, but I know many sane YJS who would never do something like this. All the YJS I have met are supportive of whatever JaeJoong’s decisions are because we love JaeJoong and care about him. Maybe I’m speaking for myself, but I don’t 100% believe in YJ until Jaejoong or Yunho announces it. I know anything I say about YunJae in real life will tarnish his image if its not true..
In conclusion, what i was angry about is saying “ALL YJS should go to hell”. It hurts, even as an atheist. Because in reality there are YJS who are normal and don’t force their YJ beliefs on others.
thank you`! i wanted to write pretty much the same thing. ❤
OMG. YJ shippers, get a life!!! Keep all your delusional fantasy for yourself only. Or better, go check with the doctor if you have some mental problems.Seriously, why do you keep harassing Jaejoong like that when you claim that you love him? Just stop!!
Can someone tell me what does YJS and gxx stand for?
YJS= YunJae Stan
Gxx= gay
@ddcc thanks for the reply!
wow i don’t know it was that worse!! Especially the incident in nanjing.. That was unbelivable. Okay i don’t have anything against yjs.. I even read yj fanfic just for fun but that was too much. It was embarassing and humiliating!!! In nanjing is it seriously being fe
atured in newspaper? If it is that just wth..!?!!! are those yjs stupid or what..? Don’t they even use their brain?? They are just no different thand sasaeng!!!
this is so disgusting for the poor JJ!
YJS,HATERS,OT5 go to hell! shame!
poor JJ!
FIGHTING jj!
One thing, Why is Gay censored in this article? Gay is not a swear word.. SMH.
oops, didn’t mean to reply to you.
This is too much ! Why do it to Jae? -___- YJS always crossing the line….always! *shakes head*
the nanjing incident is so wrong… like really?! that porn thing?! that just plain rude and insulting…
it is totaly wrong ,,, i mean even if it wasn’t YJ pic, does it even relevan in china to put such a pic at public like that?
Those group of girls really are killers. Profile killers or Character’s killers. And sadly, they do it for fun.
And JJ can not do anything drastically about those killers because however they’re still “Fans”
I’m so sorry for you JaeJoongie….
Whoa, WTF is this? YJ shippers even go this far to aggressively flaunt their obsession to Jae’s face? This is no longer normal couple shipping, it has escalated to harassment and humiliation. Explain why they have this extreme need to prove their fantasies real and to force Jae to acknowledge it although he has moved on and left that bullshit behind. Whether they like it or not, homosexuality isn’t widely accepted, especially in Asia, or Korea specifically. By telling bystanders false information and displaying pornographic banners in public, they’re tarnishing Jae’s image. As an idol, image and reputation are everything. Jaejoong’s sexual orientation is none of their business, let alone the fact that neither he nor anyone around him ever admits that he was gay, so who are they to confirm his sexuality on his behalf? Jaejoong has worked so damn hard over the years to earn what he owns now, yet shippers go around saying that his properties are gifts from his “hubby”? They’re degrading him and looking down on his efforts. Damn, I doubt YH would make more money than Jae. Don’t talk about love when they don’t even have the most basic respect for him. These people are so determined to show up at every solo event of Jae’s and ruin the whole atmosphere. They’re worse than antis and I really despise them and their behaviors.
@Angie
“neither he nor anyone around him ever admits that he was gay, so who are they to confirm his sexuality on his behalf?”
When YJS were posting pornographic photoshopped pics of YJ onto Mr Egg’s FB page, he told them that to stop & that Jaejoong IS NOT GAY.
“Jaejoong has worked so damn hard over the years to earn what he owns now, yet shippers go around saying that his properties are gifts from his “hubby”? They’re degrading him and looking down on his efforts.”
Ikr. It shouldn’t come as a surprise, given they treat him with so much disrespect, but it doesn’t lessen how disgusting it is to diminish all of Jaejoong’s hard work & success like that.
I clicked on the link & that poster is beyond disgusting, but for YJS to then go into those forums that were dissing & criticizing Jaejoong & say that he is gay…. ???? I’m just speechless at how brazen these stans are, & their total disrespect & care for someone they constantly claim they love. I hope CJes can go into these forums, track these stans down & sue them for slander & defamation.
Guess we should learn from how Jae handles it. Mature and calm about this. But if i can just fantasize, I will curse these idiots to death with a deadly spell!!!!! ><
Yeah and I kinda wish YJS will do what they do in the “other two” fanmeeting. I wanna see the reaction from them.
After reading the yj at fm lol.. rofl… why work up … that is what they want .. don’t fall for them… stay healthy and classy 😀
JJ, You are much better than yho’s no class fans. Ignore those mindless sheep, they are working for SM’s propaganda.
yj and some homin’s fans who appeared in JYJ and JJ’s activities were there only for promotional purpose they don’t care about JJ or anyone else they are just SM suckers that do what they get paid to do ( screaming only their oppars names,bring their albums posters,distribution of their products ) and as an additional thing”destroying JJ’s reputation wherever he go and make him sad ” this is all what SM wants and their suckers but nothing stays the same–> everything changes
IN THE END IT IS ONLY JYJ 😀
I think these things have gotten out of hands now because we react to them. Now it’s not about their crazy fantasies, it’s about robbing it in our faces just to see how we’ll react. I’d say from hence forth we should totally ignore their existance, then they won’t have a voice or a face. If you see such banners you can just rip them up (ps. so far as you don’t get ganged up on).
@loveunchanged
Agree with what you said. Ignore them, they will leave and be quiet. The more you talk, argue and stir up anger among ourselves about these issues , they would be so happy and laughing hard now. Our JYJ boys are definitely very calm and mature in handling such ad-hoc matters as always!! No doubt. After what they have been through for the past 3years, my total respect for JaeChunSu!
poor JJ..:( we always have faith in you:) be strong:)
Poor JJ… He must be very hurt. Stay strong JJ, am sure u can overcome those barriers. Be happy always bcos we are always by your side.
i felt like crying for jae. how disrespectfull!!!
Are they hired by SME to create trouble?! I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s the case. So immature of themmmm….
for real..
speechlessssss….
wanna cry coz i know it hurts my king JAEJOONG as well as his sincere brothers in JYJ
yjs get a life …its not loving but hurting 😦
I’m completely enraged right now. I had to force calm responses to some posts bc I believe in freedom of speech and free thinking but…. F*** this noise. The posters are disgusting, whatever you like to draw on your own time is your business but what the hell are people doing dragging that crap onto the streets and into the media. And the screaming? What is that about? Why are they so desperate to believe their fantasy world? What are they expecting to come out of such actions? Do they expect people to suddenly take their delusions as fact if they scream it loud enough?
I’m dumbfounded by this behavior, JYJ do NOT like obsessive fan stalking behavior so why would you do it?! Why would you endanger and terrorize a person you supposedly idolize?
I don’t get it. I don’t understand any of this nonsense and I’m left feeling like I want to kick someone’s butt for this or just cry. I can’t imagine what JJ feels.
And if all that isn’t bad enough, what is going on with these posts that are trying to defend and justify these behaviors?! I mean, really? here of all places?
@mkverse I tried to find the article or posts that you are talking about… but can’t find … what happened at Jae’s fm? can you please tell me?
@mkverse…. oops nevermind.. i clicked to this topic and brought me to this area … did not read the beginning.. please forgive 😦
I Hope it won’t be happen in JJ FM in Jakarta >.< Oh gosh, please show ur respect to JJ!!
When Junsu held concert in Jakarta, I heard some fans yell 'DBSK' and that was so annoying!
that was one of my biggest worries on this event
i am not gonna lied and it’s truly true in here …..in Indonesia there many YJ shipper and delusional OT5 which already on stubborn level……..
so that’s why i hope anyone who able came to the FM please….please call Jaejoong names very loudly if someone dare call someone name except Jae also if there are someone who still doesn’t care to keep call another band name…Just called Jae or JYJ names more louder than usual…..
@miaw
yes i am for sure will do that.
even though there is nothing to scream at i will scream Jae’s name till my voice broke ^ ^
I have been waiting for jae coming to jakarta for years now so u know all those frustration a will just pour it out screaming jae’s name as loud as a can for sure
That’s I am worried about,
Do you know there are one biggest problem in indo, when I go to some japan festival I meet some cassie and when they asked why I am wearing jaejae fan, I said that I am fans of JYJ, and you know what??? They started to lectured me about OT5 and “faith”,
That’s really annoyed me to the end, the some of them YJS.
And last week my friend said to me that they prepare BIG BANNER of YJS for this FM, oh I hope SHEntertainment likes 411 and ripped that banner
I will go to FM in jakarta and I will scream out loud to call Jaejoong name and JYJ. Really hope FM in jakarta will not go like in nanjing it make me scare. Poor Jaejoong if it happen again. Hope this FM goes smoothly it the first time I go to the such event I never had go to concert and FM so I hope this FM will bring me beautiful memory and hope for Jaejoong to. cross finger 🙂
Yes, I feel worry about that too >.< But I hope they won't do stupid thing when JJ in Jakarta…
gals,u’re from jkt/indonesia??
i will come to the fm as well.. glad to know that u’re going to support Jae n try to make him feel secure at his 1st coming to jkt. coz i have same biggest worries like you.. *no need to mention again* we know it so well,rite..
what i really want is just to enjoy the fm without any bother from “unrelated” thingy
@diana dee
did you go to JJ FM in Jakarta too. i am going to with my friend.
yes, hope there is nothing happen in jakarta FM(just please dear god). Just imagine if that happen in jakarta FM i will cry a river for sure. u see my friend are not JJ fan and she just know JJ from me and she is interested to attend the FM to know more.
Just don’t get it why there is this annoying people that couldn’t show some respect to other.
YES! I’m going to go with my friend too ^^ And she is same like ur friend, she just loves KJJ
Lets meet at MEIS~~
Do u have twitter, Claritavie? Just follow my twitter n I really love to talk about JYJ with u ^^v
Do you go???
Let’s meet in MEIS, ah I wanna meet Jaeharem in this event, what section you bought???
I got my bear, I’ll go with my friend but she is in puppy, so I am little worried….
@jaebabycutest
honestly I’m not Jaeharem, I’m a fan of mr jidat PYC
but I always support all JYJ’s members, because I love all of them
My friend n I will be at Puppy section, how sad we can’t be the same section…
Lets make an union and protect our KJJ!!
Oh, it’s okey
We are JYJFamily, my two friends got puppy, I’m in bear,
And do hear about rumour that SHE give kitty to admin OT5 and YJS???
Imagine if they start chanting that name, OMG!! Feel horrible for my prince, how about meet in MEIS, what’s your twitter?
did u attend KJJ FM press conference at FX? I was there n I saw a JJ’s standing banner which ‘DB5K’ written on d bottom. I was came so early so not much people at that time. I pointed to that banner n the promoter realized what I did, then they covered the ‘DB5K’ with blank paper… See? They even did that at the press conference, even there was no JJ at that time >.< I really2 hope that won't be happened at MEIS!
@ dee
my twitter are @88viei
and every one from jaeharem or JYJ sis/bro is welcome to add me 🙂
i will follow you on twitter
but don’t feel wierd if i never twiit any thing on my twitter . i just use it for update news from JYJ 🙂
Fighting sist! Please protect JJ at Jakarta FM from those childish people. I’m so proud of real JYJ fans, they’re so mature and truly support JYJ through positive way
@ jaebabycutest
Iam on bear seat with my friend hope we will meet there so don’t worry 🙂 just if you hear someone shouting JJ’s name just follow them shout to don’t hesitate even you are alone there..bcz it’s JJ fanmeeting so it is not a weird thing to do,screaming JJ’s name ^ ^
I’m agree with you~
but please don’t be angry with Cassiopeia if they shout “JYJ from 東方神起” because Jaejoong never forbid them to not to do it (:
@shawolcassievip
CJes work for JYJ. Them telling promotors not to allow fans to wear t-shirts of TVXQ, bring banners or posters of anyone but Jaejoong or JYJ, etc, comes directly from Jaejoong. He is telling YJS & OT5s how he feels & what he wants. But very few of them want to listen to him if he isn’t saying what they want to hear.
but I think “JYJ from 東方神起 ” isn’t something he doesn’t want to hear~
because he writes it on his profile, right?
so Cassiopeia and YJS not cross the line because althou Jaejoong doesn’t tell us, we can really do it and he won’t forbid us
@shawolcassievip
Yes he does have it on his profile, which doesn’t change the fact that he is also, via CJes, telling fans not to bring in anything with OTHER BANDS NAMES ON – what part of this do you not understand?? Jaejoong wants his fans to see him & applaud him for what he is now, in the present, for all of the hard work he has done & everything he has achieved since leaving SM. Why is this so hard for some fans to understand & accept? Cherish your memories of DBSK & the past if you want, but respect Jaejoong’s present & future when you are privileged enough to be in his presence. Is it really so difficult for you to do that by refraining to throw names from the past in his face? By supporting Jaejoong & ONLY Jaejoong in his SOLO FM?
@shawolcassievip
“but I think “JYJ from 東方神起 ” isn’t something he doesn’t want to hear~”
Really my friend – when you write things like that you are showing that you STILL DON’T GET IT. Jaejoong does NOT want you to yell TVXQ at his solo fanmeet. He wants you all to come to see him, to spend time with him as he is NOW, as Jaejoong from JYJ. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. WHY is it so very very difficult for you to even consider abiding by these simple rules if you’re going to go?? This is what he wants, these are the rules of the fanmeet – the rules reflect what Jaejoong wants. It’s pretty simple.
DELETED BY ADMIN
Warned!
I’m so worry for the next FM….
Me too, I heard from my friend who live in Jakarta that a lot of yjs there. Hope the true JJ/JYJ fans will do anything so such incidents will not repeat. Or maybe the staff/organizer will learn from the first 2 fanmeet and try harder to make JJ happy.
😦
I see somewhere that the leader of CI also a hardcore YJS, I also see yoonjaelovebar mention them for SMTOWNINA YJ project before….
It made me scared to think what will happen at the FM in Jakarta. Oh please just ged rid of all YJS stuffs from JJ fan meeting
*worried & scared*
you wont believe how ignorant and stubborn YJfreaks here..
I’m so sorry I couldnt make it there to protect JJ :((
if only I will b there, I’ll make sure I’ll punch any YJfreaks near me >< I so want to do it!
Actually the whole YJ thing was an SM thing from day one. It continues to be so to this day, only with the maliciousness of SM comes the same maliciousness of these YJ fans. They don’t do this to Yunho. Only to Jaejoong. So destructive to him personally and to his career.
i agree with u man!
just to point out; they have done it to Yunho many times as well last year during SM town and TVXQ’s Asia Fanmeet. I remember it well cuz TVXQ stans went crazy on twitter blaming Jaejoong’s fans for bring yunjae banners to the concerts.
but Yunho does get it less than Jaejoong. I think its becuz most of YJ fans from the old days were more biased to Jaejoong than Yunho especially since Yunho made it clear that he doesn’t approve of the whole YJ stuff
You are expeririencing all against JJ these days?
Even the Thai staff? are people paid by SM to ruin the imagine of JJ!
SM,HATER,OT5,YJS,ANTIS BURN TO HELL! SHAME
They sneak things in even if it is banned. So I guess the next step would be to either escort them out when they are blatantly disobeying the rules, or not even permit them to enter the FM arena if they wear a shirt that doesn’t abide with the rules that were given out. Wonder why these things were banned in Thailand? It’s because of what happened in NJ and JJ doesn’t want that to happen again. Doesn’t this give them enough reason to stop pushing this useless shipping into his face, forcing on him your own fantasies?
This time banning objects and articles, hopefully next time it’s escorting the person out. Security does that with fans that don’t listen to them (create a ruckus, or endanger others), they can surely do that to those fans that don’t abide by the rules.
its the thing that already happen and we cannot change it .. now the fans from other two countries, Vietnam and Indonesia, hope fans learn sth from here and show some RESPECT and REMEMBER if jj fanmeet in indonesia is success than they plan to bring JYJ next year… now its up to you. gain or lose. and YJS ——> F@#k U .. when I first knew about shippers, I thought it was a way of showing there love but this thing is ridiculous, some fans know there position and that’s ok but some are really annoying .
Fans who wants a memorabilia from JJ fanmeeting better abide the rules. Do not bring unrelated things to the event and act courteous + respect to others.
Thai fans got more love from Jaejae, even over time!!!
If some retard makes stupid action and makes jaejae not comfortable and this FM will in short time, I swear I’ll kick their ass for this!! I wait patiently from 2009 to meet him, and their retard try ruin this moment
I agree with you. Shipper is not a form of love and you know what those delusional YJS dare called them self OT5 and attack their own friends who still have brains to against YJS at such event like this! So what do you think? are they still have brains?
can’t people or them who called themselves fans or whatever they are RESPECT him as himself n as JYJ member???
When CJEs announced the rules of the goods and banners at Thailand FM , I was so happy
But right now I think they have to cut this YJs from the root , by closing their main sites ..
lol… I don’t think that is fair… They can fantasize about what they want in their sites as long as it doesn’t harm anyone.. What CJES should do is ban things like these from happening in their future FMs.. but to force your opinions (hating YJ) on YJS is just as bad as YJS forcing their fantasies on JJ..
I always disliked the whole YJ thing since they were still 5, I thought it was humiliating for DBSK5.. but I don’t think it’s right for us (who hate it) to tell others what they should or shouldn’t fantasize about..
Well for me its a pitty that some of the “FANS” didn’t grow up and pursue a dream that don’t even exist, they don’t grow up and are still in the past is a shame that they call fans. Sorry for the members of JYJ that they are more that the fucking tvxq
I’ve been around JaeHo (yes, I always put Jae in the beginning!) shippers during my crazy DB days, and let me tell you, they can get very, very unpleasant. And for some reason, they treat Jae more with disrespect than the other one. I’m pure a JJ Stan and when I say to stop the malicious remarks (that they usually shout to jae whenever we follow the boys), I’m always branded as being homophobic. I get so mad but what can I do? They’re the ones who I’m with or else I’ll lose my way in Korea? That’s why I really made sure I’m with different fans in Japan (they were mostly ChunSu lovers, a little similar with their fantasies about the two having relationship but not vocal to the point of always putting it to the boys’ face. Yoochun hates that! Also, toho fans aren’t so into coupling, at least the ones I’m acquainted.)
Of course I’m generalizing most JaeHo fans but their collective ways of fantasizing about those two really got on my nerves. As much as I have good memories of my fangirliness, there equally unpleasant ones due to sasaengs and coupling shippers. Just to note, the best shippers (at least during those times) where JaeSu… It’s all about the music for those two!
asking about elephant, I get it they refer to woody alen talk show with jYJ. but wt they meant by the bear????
Bear = Yunho
how come!!!
it from their previous era as TVXQ, yunho also called yunniebear.
Bear back riding = bareback riding. And if you don’t know what that is, I cant explain on a public forum.
omg I feel really sad for dear Jaejoongie …. I was soooo shock seeing those p**** poster … I never thought that they (YJ fan) would really go sooooo crazy with their fantasies …. euwwwww they are really sick in their mind …. Jaejoong please be strong you always have Yuchun & Junsu & JYJ/JJ fans that are truly loyal fans like us …. uuuugh I can’t imagine how heartbroken JJ seeing those posters … it really is humiliating JJ not loving him …. I hope all those sick YJF will *%#$*&5$#
it suicide doing 😦
shock that people nowdays can go to this point of suicide doing just to get into headline for free 😦
self-centered doing 😦 is no good behavior
is sad as all this cant be stop cause it be a SM harassment on mr kim jaejoong,no matter how much we put it words this group of
people will not understand cos they are on SM harassment fantasies/delusional channel.alot people nowdays have this kind of selfish disrespect behavior 😦 mr LSM and all others in SM i wish you well but what go around come around.karma karma karma
i pray for JYJ karma karma karma (:
Dear mr jyj
Do whatever you jyj always wanted to do get it done
I and alot supporter here in my country will keep praying till you jyj complete your list
I hope everything done get yourself out of kollywood
kollywood system is so sick.SK country man didn’t even want to acknowledge it yet they play along with it,greedy is so ugly.LSM your billion can buy the world of people talk n act like you.i will see/witness were this drama lit me too.i be here …………
TQ jyj3 republic of jyj stay united you are the roots that keep jyj stay firm n happening
Okay! I fed up with this! I’m OT5 but this is too much!
YJs thought of YH and JJ as their ‘appa’ and ‘umma’ but is this how you respect your parents? Putting their xxx (fake)photo/art for public to see??
And please respect JJ!!
Why don’t you humiliate the other one like this too?! Why JJ?
I’m not YJs but I’m sorry for what happened and I hope this won’t happen again T_T it’s too cruel for JJ.
When I saw the unhappy incidents as headlines, I already know it going to do with yj. Please move on fans. What over is over. By doing that, it going to make jaejoong more upset. The fans should feel thankful that jaejoong actually came to these countries for fan meetings. I think I have to wait until next life for jaejoong to visit my country.
I think the Nanjing incident is the worse. Maybe because of the bad incidents that happen in Nanjing, the organizer are more careful for the fan meeting in Thailand like certain posters are restricted to bring into the fan meeting venue.
Fan fiction are all created from writers’ imagination, nothing in there was real. So read it just for fun or just to satisfy your own imaginary. Don’t bring them to the public. If you thought you cannot control yourself then go to see Psychiatrist. JYJ boys are not there to fullfill your sick imaginary dream. They were there to meet their fan as an artist meet fanclub.
YJS be more grown up and move on. If Jaejoong have a meeting call Yunjae fanmeeting then you can do whatever you want. If not then stay home. Don’t attend any fanmeeting until you can control yourselves, ok?xx
and to @noni
I didn’t buy that too. It is true that Jaejoong may want to to remember the other two members but not Yunjae things, so don’t mix up and use that as your stupid excuse.
why those all happens when our boys have concerts or fanmeetings? ı never heard those things in the other 2 person activities…what the hell? they are really disqusting!!!!!!!
That’s what I don’t understand why it’s always JJ -__-
The poster is really of poor taste to put up publicly. Sexuality is Private & Personal. Do have some respect.
To publicly display either Homosexual or heterosexual porno picture is really uncalled for and uneducated!
I respect & love Kim Jae Joong as an artist regardless of his sexuality. It is his life, to begin with.
It seems in most fandoms, there are always some minority fans who love to couple their idol with their on screen lover/spouse/partner/friend/band member. It is sad that sometime, fans cannot differentiate between real life, drama & fantasy.
“Sexuality is Private & Personal” – so agree.
Sorry => should not be uneducated, but unethical…
Even uneducated person will have moral value as not to display and worship such Porno picture in public.
To shipper ——> here’s the thing …. he loves “TVXQ” but not the other two members .. did you see what name is behind his back its written IN BOLD BIG LETTERS ITS —–> MICKY/JUNSU same goes with yoochun —>MY JAEJOONG/JUNSU tatoo!! <—– I don't want to sound rude but ……past is past … live in present –
but in present, TVXQ means that two members who I-can’t-mention here…..
however,
it’s only Jaejoong who knows the meaning of his tattoos btw 😀
@shawolcassievip
Yes, we all know by now that whenever OT5s/YJS are up against a question that their standard answer makes absolutely no sense to answering they fall back on the old “but nobody really KNOWS for sure.” Well, news flash: we know. Jaejoong has told us. We are his real fans. Sex-obsessed people who live only in their fantasies obviously didn’t get the memo.
(;≧皿≦)(。_°☆\(- – ) i feel like hitting SoMeone right now!!! (*≧m≦*) I am so aaangry!!! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ Jeongiee, you’ll always have us, your army to protect you! i just hope Indonesia and Vietnam will learn from this!
Korea fans is a large overseas fan sites to these rumors, I come up with an entirely new shock.
for those who will be attending JJ FM in Indonesia, can you throw a punch for any YJS or freaks who are messing up?
once they shout Yunj..please make them swallow your fist xDD *anarchy*
I so want to do this
Shit . Just leave the poor guy alone . Its one thing to read/write fanfics , but that poster takes it to a whole new low . Would these so-called fans do this if Jae was their brother or a class mate ? I am disgusted beyond words …… How can girls stoop to such low cheap actions ?! And some of the comments here make me cringe ; for the last time , being called GAY IS NOT AN INSULT . Some of you are angry for the wrong reason . You all should be angry that Jae s sexual life which is his personal business is being brought up unnecessarily and ridiculed . Not for the fact that he was called gay .
OMG OMG…..I don’t.know what to say to these yunjae fans…This is tooo extreme…0_o
I had to admit I was one too when they were together coz the two looked cute together…^^
But seriously people need to wake up … The couple things WAS SM idea from the start…why they want to take it too far even when he is not under SM anymore….o_O
And people need to learn how to respect others…I very surprise that most ppl lack this nowadays….so that why people make these kind of commotion around the world…
OMG…my friend just shared me the big yunjae poster they hung… O_O
Seriously those ppl what are they thinking?????
If JJ will not go to these two fanmeet i will support him!
after what happened here.
OKAY! I am a hardcore fan of both: JYJ and TVXQ. BUT I REALLY HATE WHAT YJS AND THOSE OT5 DID ON NANJING AND THAI FAN MEETING!
They keep saying that they wanted to be respected, but they are the one who can’t respect.
What they are doing just will ruin TVXQ JYJ and fans image.Only to satisfy their own desire to pair Yunho & Jaejoong. So ignorant & selfish
IF YOU WANT TO SHIP YUNJAE, JUST SHIP THEM ON YOUR OWN FORUM/EVENTS! NOT ON JYJ FORUM/EVENTS! Do you want Yunho and Jaejoong to being labeled as ‘gay’ by society and then they got banned in some countries just because of YJS?
The unpleasant situation created by a select group amongst the YJs and OT5s is an illustration of how love can turn into a sick, harmful obsession. It doesn’t matter whether Jae is gay or not, he has repeatedly expressed that he would rather keep his relationships private, and on very few occasions, made scant references retrospectively. By throwing their assertions into his face to force him to acknowledge and respond to them and feed their beliefs, they are showing disrespect for his wish to keep his relationships private, and acting with a sense of self-entitlement. Why should Jae be accountable to them about who he dates? He’s a talented and professional artiste entitled to a private life, not a freaking reality TV star. Gosh, the fact that they used a manipulated porn graphic for their poster shows how divorced from reality they are.
Well, according to rumor, the ticket for KITTY zone in Jakarta FM is being given to “special guests” as in OT5 and YJS admins.
I just hope that “special guests” won’t ruined the FM with unnecessary chanting and banner. Guhhhh…..
And now those KITTY ZONE tickets are being sold with the price of IDR 3.5 mills while it was given to them free of charge.
This is why I got mad at SH Ent for not selling KITTY ZONE and instead give them for free. Damn it.
@chrystaldee – How cjes or Jae want to handle this , become the core factor determining what comes next.
This is just a rumor! I’m sure about this because I know someone who working for the promoter and you can see the promoter twitter account, they give several KITTY tickets as lucky draw for those who already purchased JJFM tickets in short period.
FYI: I also hate it if YJS ruined JJ FM! I waiting JJ to come & being disappointed before when JYJ concert in INA canceled, so I hope this one is good from the start & ends with good too.
I wonder where this rumor come from? YJS? OT5? Oh dear….I hate it when they spread hoax everywhere they go just to make other people get pissed. I don’t know about selling KITTY tickets for 3,5 mills but the promoter not giving any KITTY TICKETS for free. Even so they called LUCKY DRAW there also one solid circumstances that you must BUY tickets from any class before.
Let me tell you, nothing in this world nowadays are totally free. See this example: Buy 1 get 1 free, buy xxx tea and see inside the cap bottle and get free one bottle if you lucky, free make up pouch if you buy xxx lotion. You see…everything with word FREE will come along with the word BUY. ^^”
(I still pissed off with the hoax….I’ll hit the source of this if I found it)
Everywhere Jaejoong goes, there’s dozens or maybe hundreds of yj fan ruining the moment for him. can’t they respect both yunho n jaejoong? it’s a disgrace to do such things when yj isn’t even real. The two of them aren’t that close. It’s another of those plots of sm to gain more attention.
that’s true.
bromance is one way to do marketting.
and it’s such a dumb YJS sucked those things.
JJ n YH were friends, but not anymore.
they live their own life now…
Above fans’s anger are well understood here. And there are solutions. Depend on how determined, and to what extend Jaejoong & cjes want to do.
1. About Nanjing studs drawing things – must thank to the MC 馬松 , who discovered the absence of tickets from Green Region first. And ” witty alert “Jaejoong to draw again more carefully. ( But since top MC so rare , this MC also worked for EXO-M & SM Town, so just don’t expect too much)
2. Yes, in China , a jargon called 五毛黨, people accept money and write things ( depend on customers’ instruction) onto the web, each text / message RMB$0.5 cents. SM has trooped heavily in China markets, both manpower & money, that is why i have mentioned quite a number of times, IF Jaejoong & Yoochun so wanna kick off acting career in China, first of all , MUST clear all the landmine first. All these porn things, will stop Jae from successful in China, & perhaps all Islamic countries.
3. In this world, a name of “enemy by nature”, i believe SM & many of its commercial allies have full plan to push their idols in China , also to crash those potential rivals. In other commercial sectors, corps will hire strong web IT sniper to delete any negative message , text from the web. Any these unwanted content, will totally disappear in any forums, blogs etc.
4. For obscene content like the poster in Link 1 & 2, very good, the pics were taken, with those faces, so please reported to the China authority, as you see, **cough** sorry to say, China strongest area is censorship, and bash these unwanted stuff in public.
The police can raid a sex salons with the cameras shooting non-stop, including the naked prostitute and customers, and broadcasts to the national TV 😯 this is the no human right part, and yet the most effective way to crash porn spreading against Jaejoong again.
But how cjes or Jae want to handle this ? is the core matter.
**edit ** point 1 # ticket stubs
“For obscene content like the poster in Link 1 & 2” – In Jakarta FM if ever I found that kind of poster in the event area, I will come to them with Anti-pornography Law chapter 3 clause 9 (UU Antipornografi (UU No 44/2008)).
@Puti – Agree. Totally 21+ , or even beyond adult content allowance in public.
agree! PORN IN PUBLIC IS TOO MUCH!!!! -_______-”
*bringing big stamp with BANNED word on it*
Thats why i hate yunjae shipper
what a bunch of disgusting shippers.. seriously, they don’t deserve to be called as music fans because apparently, they are just interested in their disgusting fantasy…
please be strong Kim Jaejoong!! Don’t be afraid, you can always confront those disgusting shippers, as we, JYJ fans,, real music fans will support you…
Ok, basically I didn’t want to answer that article, because everyone is contradicting themselves about everything that happened in the fanmeet. First, I’d like you to know I’m an OT5 and a YunJae believer, and I consider myself as a pretty mature fan. I might be fanboying on them, but I respect them more than anything, and I am beginning to be sick of people calling us YJS freaks when only a part of the shippers act in a bad way. I’m french so I wasn’t there to actually witness what was happening, but shipper friends who were there actually were describing us everything through Twitter.
First of all, I’d like to insist on one point; “gay” isn’t a bad word. Doesn’t need censor. Thank you.
Then, I knew about the YJ banner before reading this, and yes, I am ashamed. I don’t mind banners with the famous yj hug from MKMF08 or them holding hands or things like these, but this banner should never have been there, and I am sorry to witness it did. About the newspaper, IF it ever really happened, then yeah, it makes me only even more ashamed, not really about JJ being called feminine (which he’s not) or gay (since I don’t consider these bad words), but if JJ is being hated on laughed at by people who don’t know him, I can’t say I’m ok with that.
About the rest.. Taxis and autograph are always an issue, not only with YJS but with any sasaeng fans in general. Yes it makes me angry and pissed like hell but unfortunately, there are many fans like that, and the majority of them are not YJS. (http://seoulbeats.com/2012/03/jyj-and-sasaeng-fans-an-ugly-controversy/ but I think you already knew about this already).
Then, there’s the bear question that I don’t approve of, just because Jae definitely understood the reference, and talking about a metaphot of his sex life is only going to make him feel unseasy.
But as for the “YunJae’ shooting and fans, I don’t think these are horrible incidents that make us YunJae shippers freaks. (Just so you kno, I wouldn’t shoot it in a fanmeet or a concert, simply because it would make me feel uneasy as well.) I read many reports about Jae saying it made him think fans were still thinking about the other two. So, if you don’t support YunJae, or even HoMin, just please remember that DB5K is Jae’s and JYJ’s past and that it’s still important for them, and I’m not gonna try and make you listen to or like HoMin but there’s no point in arguing about that..
Anyway, I just hope I made you understand my point about the fanmeet, and please, please, do not call every YJS stupid or freaks or antis, because as someone who just thinks two people share love and that five friends do not despise each other, it really hurts my feelings. And I know many of us YJS think like me.
so you don’t mind YJ banners as long as there not porn ones
and you don’t think that shooting yunjae are horrible incidents
I’m sorry but what part of ” Kim Jaejoong Fanmeeting ” do you and your friends don’t understand ?
he isn’t in dbsk anymore and this is him alone meeting his fan .
YJ and dbsk have no place in this meeting no matter how much the YJfanss want it to be .
it’s nice that you took the time to write how you feel but I hope you do the same in all your JY sites .
Let me be clear here; I don’t think that YunJae non-porn and shoutings are horrible incidents, meaning I don’t think people doing did anything horrible enough to deserve the wirds “freaks” and “you should be dead”.
I know it’s Jae’s FM, and I would too like to see the fandom as one for it, and not see everything revolve around YunJae and YunHo and DB5K. I know that they shouldn’t be at the center of the FM, and I would like to be able to give Jae a FM where his fans don’t bash but respect each other, but that comes from both parts.
“you and your friends” -> You think because they support the same couple as me they’re all my friends ?
I’m just not going to talk about the “Jae isn’t part of DBSK” part, because it’s more about how Jae feels himself about it. I have my opinion, you have yours and I respect that. I just hope you don’t judge me on that. But I do agree on the fact that this being Jae solo FM, DBSK shouldn’t have been mentioned.
I’m giving my opinions is a nice way here, and we’re defending the same thing. I respect you, so please respect me too.
It’s not just about the porn thingys. Shouting Yunho’s name (or others’ name) in this Jaejoong’s solo event just give the impression that Jaejoong is not respected for what he himself is, that he is nothing without Yunho, that he is less worthy as individual.
And this is what you think is okay?
Have you read what he said in the latest Elle magazine? And please, don’t read from some (I said some) OT5 sites or YJ sites, just copy the words and go to native Koreans who has nothing to do with TVXQ nor JYJ and ask them to translate it, because I see some Koreans say that they found the “wrong” translations there.
Jaejoong said : ‘As I do more filming activities, more and more people look out for Kim Jaejoong. However, overseas fans skip over JYJ and link me to the past Youngwoong Jaejoong, and of course it’s a bit sad. This is a problem of time so I must work harder’
And this is not the first time he gave hints to us the fans. So, can you please respect him and do something which will not make him sad? That if we really are fans of him! Fans are supposed to be protecting and supporting, not embarrassing nor harassing their idols!
“However, overseas fans skip over JYJ and link me to the past Youngwoong Jaejoong, and of course it’s a bit sad.”
if he sad about it, why he keeps his profile “JYJ from 東方神起”?
is he respect which fans, especially Cassiopeia, believe?
it’s rly confusing, I dunno what he wants and it makes me sad too~
Since JYJ was from DBSK but still he wants to be granted and respected his hardwork as JYJ…
Is it really hard to understand???
You people!
KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN!!
And Get Out of our fandom!
i hope Jae has girlfriend soon, so that disgusting YJS will shut their mouth.. that was so innapropriate showing porn banner to his face.. that YJS is so disgusting, i hope they never hang porn banner again..
They could not hang obscene banners in Jakarta event, we have Anti-pornography Law. I could alert the organizer for that matter. Even Lady Gaga could not do concert here because of her costumes and stage act could not abide the Law.
@Puti
..please alert the organizer… they need to be aware of what happened to 2 JJFM..lots of fans want to see him and we want JJ to be happy and enjoy the event without any incident….my heart still aching for our JJ !
Lot of people already do that. The promoter in Jakarta also put their email on their twitter bio, so everyone can send them emails.
@Puti – correct, Lady Gaga was banned to hold concert in South Korea this year too. All Christians groups summon up to call off their application.
@Puti
i am not tried to scare you but those people almost same craziness like sasaeng…if they can’t bring the banner so be ready guys….maybe there are gonna be a battle of shouting on the venue…..i really hope SH staff have more strict and never gonna hesitate to do some prevent action to stop an unnecessary event to be happen
@miaw, noted. I’ll take precautions before dealing with these lunatic *frying pans ready*
Truthfully, what I am scare is if this banner gonna reported in station TV in here dear, you know, media will spread rumour that jaejae is gay and can be banned to perform in here, remember with miyabi from japan,
Indonesian people like assuming and accusing without thinking,
even before the official announcement about JJFMINA one of the TV put up JJ as one of an example for androgyny & I think if YJS things show up on the TV then all of us will be finished….I’m afraid if it not just JJ who will be banned from Indonesia but all kpop groups, or all Korean products and fans from other fandom will fight with those YJS. I can’t stop shaking imagine about the worst possibility. =_____=
@Puti, please alert if you see any! Thank you!
unfortunately I don’t think having a gf /lover or any partner would stop someone this Obsessed .
they might just do the same to him as what some One Direction couple fans did to that Louis guy and his gf .
he snapped at them on Twitter but got a lot of hate for it though
I doubt about it dear….
I have lot of YJS on my facebook friendlist because of my past (thats not important anyway). As long as I know about YJS behaviour…what ever you do, what ever you tell them, what ever jaejoong do, what ever yunho do, even when jaejoong or yunho has girlfriend or married THEY STILL HAVE WAYS TO CONNECT EVERYTHING TO THEIR DELUSIONAL WORLD CALLED YUNJAE! Because they’re yunjae shippers….. -___-“
I don’t see a gf being the solution to this, if anything they might even go to the extremes of beating her up and putting her life in danger. If I was JJ gf, I would srsly fear that. I believe they may possibly be that crazy. After all, look at the stuff they’re doing now. Add a gf to the mix, it may just get worse.
But even if they don’t do that, they’d probably go to odds ends to break them up, because according to them “Yunho is the only one for Jaejoong”. Have you seen the harassments to his friends on Twitter? It’s just disgusting. And I’ve seen some say that even if JJ got a girlfriend, it’d just be a cover up because supposably “in Korea, because it’s so hard being publicly gay, some males will just date women even if they don’t love them”. And they’ll keep on believing he’s gay because of stuff like that.
Personally, they can keep on believing he’s gay really, there’s nothing wrong with being gay and for all we know he could be, but they need to not be so public about it. A FM is not the place to be preaching your beliefs. And the extent they’ve gone to now is just sickening. Learn to respect the man you supposably support, or just leave him alone, please. ;n;
poor Jaejoong and Yunho too, that was embarassing
My parents always teach me that we should make other people happy…
So, I wish Santa can grant my “Christmas wish” much earlier… that is to make those YJ shippers “happy”
I want to send gifts to those YJ shippers the thing they always feel happy to do & involve.
I want their pictures be photoshoped with their close friends with the same gender… in an X-rated pose (woah, according to their addicted activities reading & making X-rated & yaoi fanfics, this must be very exciting for them, right?)
And then the pictures should be posted in some social media… even better if I can post it at their schools (most of them are still nice & innocent schoolgirls, right?) or at the announcement board in their office (some are just the most mature people on earth according to their age, right?)
It will be more “wonderful” if I can send the pics to their parents, as a surprise earlier-Christmas gift! (I can imagine how successful this surprise gift will be! I can imagine how their parents’ face will look like!)
They must be “happy” treated like this, right? Coz they always believe that Jaejoong (and maybe Yunho too) always be much happy knowing about those pictures, then of course they will be very very very happy can be treated like their idols who they always “love” and “support”, right?
My parents also always teach me to have an empathy, to consider other people’s feeling, and not being a selfish human being.
I “believe” those YJ shippers are the people with the big empathy in their heart also! They really can feel what Jaejoong (and maybe Yunho too) feels when he was faced with this “unforceful” and “unselfish” situation, that is being exposed to the public of their sexuality “stories” (whatever their sexual preferences are), and this “Christmas” gift experience will only deepen their oh so kind and angelic heart! God must be “proud” of this very kindhearted congregation He has!
Wait, it will be more merrier if we also spread the “news” (or whatever we can call it) that they actually are not female (for the YJ shippers gals) coz they hide that whatever hanging there (since it’s nothing to be proud about) or that they are definitely not male (for YJ shippers boys) coz we can’t proof whether there’s even a “worm-kinda-thing” there (don’t even think of anaconda! What anaconda???). We can call the gals as ahjussi and the boys as ahjumma! Very nice, right?
The very important thing my parents also always teach me is about logic, that’s why I spent so many years in school to learn to use what God has given me and put it in the top part of my body: brain
I “believe” that ALL YJ shippers are the smartest ones! Coz they strongly believe that a male human can be pregnant! WOW (with the biggest W ever!!!). Maybe next time they will get Nobel in science! And to think about their kind heart, maybe Nobel in Peace too? WOW (once again) 😯
Oh God, I really hope this can be true! I really can’t wait for this! If not this year, maybe later on?
It’s called karma, ladies & gentleman!
😈
*sarcasm mode is on*
This is also my plan on jj fm in jakarta hihihihi… I will take proof shot closed-up and upload onto all my friends facebook with special message..
1. Jae became a laughing stock in the male dominated sports forums.
2. A lot of pple are saying he’s gxx and disgustingly feminine,
3. and there were many fans’ family were around the venue, some saw the posters and forbade their daughter to fangirl such idol going forward.
yeap this the after affect bcs your dumbes act yunjae fans..tsk tsk are you happy now ?
you know what your ignorant and unrespectful act make JYJ/JJ china fans also looks bad, now why even they are the one who apologize to JJ and the other JYJ fans, Yunjae fans you are the one who should apologize to them, you are going to far….aish,
I seriously dont understand why Jaejoong get this shit treatment from Chinese fans. I dont know how exactly to identify their feelings towards Jae. Is it hate? is it overwhelming love n care towards his happiness (wanting him to b forever connected to his love one – in this case, YH).
And i completely dont understand why only Jae receive this bad treatment? fortunately YooSu didnt receive this shit like treatment from Chinese treatment. (highlight me for any info)
And the most importantly, if those YJS really claim themselves as a loyal shipper, did YH ever receive the same treatment? Once, I am a YJS, But looking at this kind of behavior, I feel shame i ever place myself in this YJS fandom.
i think that to be so!
they hate jj probabl because are jealous? or is just hate!
if jj will decide of not go more to nanjing i will support he!
is better for him that the next time
will go in turky, or in europe! 😦
or in mexico! 😦
sorry but i think so! 😦
@tea_key – in Taiwan, Yoochun FM, YC expressed his love to have his own children, fans screamed…shouted aloud JUNSU. And YC smiled and answered straightly : No, Junsu he can’t. ><
They do it to Yunho too, but far less then to Jaejoong. From what I accidentaly saw on YT and Twitter, fans still shout JJ´s name or JYJ names on 2VXQ fanmeetings, or bring banners etc, outside korea and japan. I´ve heard during a recent FM, a yj fan said JJ´s name to Yunho during a back-stage groups photo session. Yunho got pissed and the fan realised it and apologised. I wish JJ would show the same reaction to teach them some manners.
Frankly spoaking, as JYJ fans, as much as we try our best to prevent these craps, Jejung-sshi really need to make his stand very clear cos we have out limit too….
* Our limits
Typo errors.
All bad things already happened..Jae Joong already hurt..we cant do anything now except to PRAY for our Jaejoong !
Please continue to pray for his Strength in handling all bad situation, Peace of Mind that nothing will happen again, more LOVE from all the fans who respect and support him all the way..
@jamaryka – this is a spiritual warfare like Daniel 10. Must pray hard on this. And definitely need Jae to make up his mind & let Lord step in to rescue.
@glacial.music
..JYJ fans need to VIGIL for their idols..so holy spirit will shield JYJ for some bad spirit around them..
Please PRAY HARD for them !!
I feel so ashamed reading the lines, and watched the 2 porn poster pinned high up there.
There are still lots of quality Chinese in the country, perhaps not in this hallyu fandom….
You are my hiding place:
A lot of the YJS are highschool students that do not seem to be aware of the harm they are doing to JJ and YH. Of course some of the YJS simply don’t care if it is only entertainment to them. But a lot of YJS are brainwashed by the heads of the YJS websites and believe in (or wishes to believe in) this greatest “true love” of YJ. The real purpose of the YJS sites, I suspect, is simply profit-making. These YJS sites are selling a lot of YJ goods to these girls.
The problem seems to have got worse in the past year. Maybe it is because the heads of YJS sites are getting desperate. Among other things, JJ has succeeded in his recent drama and gradually gettting ride of the feminine image SM imposed on him. It will be harder and harder to sell the ‘YJ’s true love’ and the YJ goods. The YJS are fighting a survival battle. If the real purpose of YJS sites is money-making, ethics or the interests of JJ is of course not their concern.
I hope JJ and Cjes will take a clear and tough stand against the YJS, even if it means alienating some “fans” in the short term.
@jojo – ” I hope JJ and Cjes will take a clear and tough stand against the YJS, even if it means alienating some “fans” in the short term.”
Must say, if JYJ want to grow further , this cut from the past is a necessary step. Given enough ” grace period ” for those who still rely on this YJS to earn a living, a week, perhaps, take action.
Junsu, has successfully expressed that he is not a gay in his world tour.
It should be no problem for Jaejoong do the same , if he determines to.
Well, I myself am a high school student, but at least at the young age of fourteen, I know how to be rational and how to respect my beloved artists. As much as high school students are on a hormonal rage, it is not appropriate to publicly display what goes on in your mind to others, and shame someone you claim to love so much. Some people are in fact, indifferent towards this issue and wondering why JYJ fans are “making a big deal out of it”. It IS a big deal, by the way, because this is harassment and character defamation which can be taken to court if only Jaejoong and CJES aren’t too lenient. That’s how serious it is. Jaejoong might still consider them “fans”, but this is something an anti-fan would do, and no one should give excuses to justify their act. Just because they’re young, we cannot forgive them; it does not make us a bigger person. It is important we teach them a lesson and hope that it gets through their young, immature minds. If we let go, they won’t learn and the past mistakes will repeat. But yes, hopefully the marketing strategy becomes a big fail as Jaejoong becomes more willing to open up to his fans about his true feelings (which I know nothing about, but the same should go to YJS).
@lilymichaelis
YES!!!!!!! Thank you, lilymichaelis for your amazing comment! You’re 14 years old?? We should all be as wise as you are right NOW.
Best wishes and keep posting here!
xxoo
seriously..
based on their stories off the camera..
soulmate has better chance than yunjae..
poor baby Jae..
wish he can endure it well..
When I was a TVXQ fan, Jaeho was my favorite “couple”. I always thought that the photos were fun. I just thought that it showed that the boys were good friends. I never really believed that they were really a couple. No matter which “couple” was your favorite, there was always enough pictures of each “couple” that you could tell that the boys were really close as friends.
I was saddened with TVXQ broke up, but since JYJ were always my favorites, I followed them. The fansite I was with occasionally wrote stuff about JYJ, but not as much as I wanted. I found JYJ3 and have been a faithful follower of all things JYJ.
To read this account has me wondering at the extent some people go to for their fantasies. Get real people.
JYJ has had enough to deal with because of SM. We, as their fans, need to support them anyway we can. I live in the US and will probably never see them live. I love them for who they are. Their talents, their selflessness, and the love they show to their fans. You would never find that kind of entertainer in the states.
Do you really think anyone here would write a song for a member of their group so he could do a solo album and go on a world tour. Never. They’re all so me, me, me. I love the friendship these guys share.
I know that some people think that we should expect anyone that Loves Jaejoong in anyway as long as they support him .. but how does constant exposure to their sexual Fantasies about him in every chance they get and their insistent that they know his Sexual Preference and who he wants/is with is any kind of SUPPORT???
is he just a living yaoi character to them ? because I only see that in the behavior of these individuals .
also this argument that these specific YJ fans should have ever right to do what they want and we need to respect their feeling is … ridiculous !
this isn’t about them and their “YJ is real” mania , this is Kim Jaejoong of JYJ .
they’re not only an Embarrassment to Jaejoong but to other YJ fans that know better .
I much as I know Jaejoong is a very tolerate person I don’t think people should push him to much … you might not get the reaction you hope for .
its not a crime to adore Idol couple..but going to the limit is insane …
Yes. Shipping for those who like it should be fun and harmless for the idol. There is time and place for expressing love for your fanfiction couples (special events, specialized forums etc.). But during a concert, press conference or a fanmeeting of this idol? If yj shippers humilitate him or are hurting him, they behave no better then sasaengs or antis. They should seriously rethink their ways.
i also believe what you said…. , being a fanatic fan and being a obsessive fan is different… they go beyond limit… they can hurt jae’s friends just to fulfill their fantasies
i really hope they will know what jae feels … jaejoong is an adult now…
Hope his fanmeeting in Indonesia will be better *praying from day to night*
Jae fans in Indonesia!! HWAITTIINGGG protect JJ oppa!!
that incident with the poster in nanjing fanmeeting.. really.. seriiouuusslllyyy!!!??
SHAME ON YOU !!!
WAKE UP FROM YOUR FANTASY!! T______T
damn you people who put up those posters.. you embarrass your parents..
HATE that photoshopped banner!!! It is borderline disrespectful, unethical and crazy..
if I am a casual fan would I bring a child on a jaejoong FM and let the kid see those pornographic material am trying my best as an adult to hide until he/she is mature enough to understand???? HELL NO!!!
You know what shippers are doing??? they are destroying the reputation and image Jaejoong has been so working hard to protect and keep as real as he can be.. is this how shippers treat his kindness??? am so pissed right now seriously..
TO THE FREAKING RETARDED SHIPPERS who continuously publicly do this to Jaejoong I hope you wont be in a situation where someday your pictures be photoshopped having sex and post on public sites and social network.. for public humiliation you wouldnt like it trust me!
Am not homophobic by the way .. i have gay friends and I am 10000% sure even gay people would not enjoy being in this situation.
What more a man who endlessly repeats in his honest tell-all interviews that he wants to settle with a good family and have kids and a wife,,
seriously!!! am so pissed
Jesus I cannot believe how much shit JYJ has to endure… and they need to be silent and respectful and even publicly THANKFUL to these little bitches… this is so deplorable… these people have nothing better to do with their miserable little lives? And they DARE call themselves fans? It’s one thing to “ship” Yunjae in your private room in front of Youtube and another to shout this in you idol’s face and humiliate them in large crowds. Sheesh man, i really wanna knock some heads into some brick walls.
the YJS who put up those posters have crossed the line and stepped beyond the boundaries of decency.
why must it be that our JJ has to endure in silence such despicable acts/behaviour at all his FMs??
i fervently hope and pray that JJ’s true fans (like most ppl here, yay!!) in Indonesia and Vietnam will be able to stop YJ freaks in their tracks by any means possible.
Indonesia and Vietnam fans, we’re counting on you!!!
i hope some fans can tell SH Ent in Indonesia to be more strict with issue like this, i think it is their duty as a promotor to protect their guest artist. but mostly, promotor dont know about things like that.. they are not professional at all.
agree with you…but maybe this is also where CJes should step in and escort the idiots out of the venue!
anyway, hoping for the best for JJ at future FMs.
I’ve always hate it when people keep asking & shouting Yunho’s name in front of JJ during his or JYj fanmeeting.
Poor JJ, every time have to face this kind of stupid questions.
Those YunJae worshiper should STOP doing such ridiculous things anymore.
GROW UP….show some RESPECT….
honestly,this YJ fan make me afraid to attend FM KJJ in Jakarta.I HATE YJ Shipper.
I go to FM because I want to meet JJ but if the YJ fan make a disturbance like that,oooh I’m sorry
Oh dear….whatever you say to those delusional people they will not hear you a thing, even if JJ has GF or married they have lot of ways to make yunjae is real back on the line. Maybe like forbidden love, love affair, etc? I know the way YJS thinking because I’m an author for some fanfics before. I write several to satisfying my ‘writer’ urge when I see new genre of story but it just for 3 – 4 months & I get bored and never make one again.
Some of you said that sexual things are private & I agree to it, public voices are the worst on this matter! (especially in Indonesia) What if because of YJS things pop up on Indonesian TV, magazine, etc and make all of kpop groups banned from Indonesia (not only JJ and JYJ). The worst is if these ‘banned’ things affect the good relationship between two countries? War? Oh, no! Its hard to imagine but thinking about the worst possibility make me shake in fear nonstop. Maybe some of you think that what I write about this is just too much but if some of you are Indonesian you’ll agree with me. In Indonesia things that are out of the public moral & norm will get harsh attention from public & religion based community organizations. Even Lady Gaga must cancel her concert because some religion based community organizations threat the promoter.
I care about Jaejoong’s image & respect what he is now. I wonder what things I must do to make those delusional people wake up from their wonderland.
@junchul
” I will not tolerate yunjae or other fans to ruin my first meeting with jj. I heard kitty seat is sold to yunjae fans. And if the indo promoter same like nanjing, I prefer the fm is canceled or delayed until clean from unrelated jj/jyj.”
In that case you’re a hero. Thank you. And I agree with you – all fans need to step up, speak up and get involved in telling these people “No More Of This!”
where do you get those silly rumor???? I know someone who working from the promoter, there no such special treatment for YJS on KITTY SEATS. Oh come on….don’t tell me those YJS or OT5 tell you this silly rumor…as long as I know the promoter will do anything to keep their good name in front of CJes & JJ. They also make a clear statement on their twitter that IRRELEVANT THINGS are not allowed. I see it as clear as says only JJ/JYJ things allowed XP
This is just too much and way beyond whatever fanservice might have existed back in the day. Why go to a fanmeeting, Jaejoong’s or any other artist, to do such things? Good thing he has good manners and patience with this, I would’ve walked out of that stage or said something to the crowd. But yeah, that would bring a lot of negative comments too. If people want to fantasize about them being together that’s fine, but everything has it’s own place and this one was clearly not the correct one to be doing it. In fact, it shouldn’t be done in any other event!
I’m an ot5 but i’m not a YJ shipper i always fight with them over this kind of behavior since i’m a jaeharem i can’t accept anyone hurting Jaejoong even if they belong to the same fandom as me which lately i doubt it since some of YJS only love DBSK coz of their love for the delusional couple, this is reallly hurting me seeing jaejoong suffering from such a behavior coming from sick ppl like that it’s aching my heart T^T tbh honest i’m ashamed to call them ot5s..
Hope everything will be fine in the following fan meetings. Fans who are trying to ruin the fan meeting should be sent out immediately. Are they really forced JJ to sign 100 autographs??? If so, that’s really ridiculous. If they did so, they are not qualify to be called as FANS any more.
If I was the organizer forget about rule#1Ppl with other band t-shirts are not allowed to come on stage>>are not allowed to enter the venue!!!Rule #2 Any banner etc that it doesn’t have only JJ/JYJ on it will be torn apart on spot! Rule #3 Lightsitcks etc can only be bought at a booth stand inside the venue and only JJ/JYJ Rule#4 Before entering the venue, check-up the contents of the bags,if found something unrelated to the artist or band he is part of (JYJ)your not allowed to enter the venue(like posters etc)!!! Rule#5 During fanmeeting any person who displays inappropriate behavior will be asked to leave! Simple, I know it wouldn’t be a relaxing atmosphere anymore, but maybe this kind of rules will get some sense inside the heads of people who won’t have any kind of respect for Jaejoong,and make him feel like he’s supposed to live in the past! Love comes from respect, if you haven’t got any that is hate! Period!
You know what I am really afraid of? What are these ‘shippers’ gonna do when Jajeoong marries? I’m sincerely scared that in their bewilderment they would do something to his wife. He might already have a secret girlfriend, who knows? But I bet if he does he really doesn’t want to go public because of the sasaengs. These people are not normal. They sort of think that idols are superhuman, or otherworldly or robots maybe whose only task is to satisfy fans 24/7, 365 days around the clock and don’t need any privacy. I am seriously taken aback that people lose heir right minds like this. And where the hell are the parents of these teen girls??? It’s seriously shocking and disheartening to see what these ‘fans’ are doing to their own idols. Can’t they see that they hurt them? If they could stop for just one second and put themselves in JJ’s shoes… They should be ashamed of themselves.
You nailed it, sometimes I think about that too…That’s why to this day JJ never presented his girlfriend…or even said something!When his going to get married, I hope he will be a little selfish and just say ” I got married” who she is , how we met, it doesn’t matter.Just know that I am happy” or something like that. He escaped the prison called S.M. now I can’t stop feelin that what these fans do with all this shipping , they are imprisoning him again. And this guy, by all means he’s such a sweetheart and he doesn’t deserve all this!
Exactly. And you know what, I think Jaejoong’s liking of alcohol might have something to do with all this harrassment he has to endure from sasaengs and YJ shippers… You cannot by all means live your life happily and peacefully knowing these people are out there, hunting you. I know, Junsu an Yoochun also has serious sasaengs on their heels, but nowhere near as frightfully obssessive as YJ shippers are… I can imagine that he is lonely, since he cannot have a serious relationship without having to worry about these “fans”. I remember what he said on the come on over dvd, that since he has nothing to do in the evenings, he doesn’t mind drinking alone or in company… I sincerely hope that one day God will send the right woman to his way and that he will be able to have a happy family life. He gives so much to his fans, makes our days bright and sunny with his music and his smile, every fan should be grateful and just LET HIM LIVE HIS LIFE the way he wants to without forcing their wishes (YunJae) on him… The shippers clearly don’t respect him to a bit, how they can even call themselves fans?
You put the dot on the “i”, just thinking about it makes me shiver. Isn’t enough that he’s got sasaengs but these YJ shippers come along and make it worst?! But the problem is, it will take a long time (maybe) untill JJ is gonna say to them stop this directly right to their faces!I don’t know him personally to be able to say how or when he is gonna say those words…but for Christ Sake is common sense is not biochemistry engineering to realize that he is hurt by these actions.This just makes me think that these “fans” do not see him as a human being,a human being that has the right to feel, to cry, to laugh, to be happy,to love…just like we all do.Before the singer-actor-director Kim Jaejoong , he is above all just a human being like everyone else in the world.They only see him as a mere character of their fantasy.I also linked the alcohol with all the stress and everything(lawsuit,sasaengs,yj shippers) I mean this is alot to carry on your shoulders. I’m so afraid that someday he will just blackout,this is my biggest fear! But you know what hurts the most, to see his sad eyes ,the pain that is inflicted on him like he did something wrong!Some claim “hey this is fame there is a price you got to pay”, no it isn’t.He just choose to actually do something that he loves and gives back tons of happiness to thousands of people ,and for that the irony of it, he’s being chased down by taxis and turned in too what his not ,in the imaginary world of some twisted minds. This is a long comment,and I’m new here,but I had to let it all out.Also it’s nice to meet you & everyone else here in jyj3.I’m sorry I’m replying late!
I’m so damn angry !I had another impression about China .You see, I don’t speak about those CRAZY FANS OR ANTI -FANS, but I speak about his SECURITY AND THE ORGANISERS WHO , PURE AND SIMPLE, “SOLD HIM” ! He should ask for damages of image .How is it possible that in an official fan-meeting should happened something so shameful ? I’m furious indeed.I’m so sick about this so-called “fans’ power over a star” and the mix into his private life! So uncivilized!
Well, I feel like if YJ shippers take JaeJoong and Yunho for their toys… It seems that some people forget a thing called respect…
Also, I have a question, I ask here because I know that the answer I would have will be true. I read it about the FM : ”Thai fm “MC : What sentences do you hate? JJ : I hurt to hear that “We love each other but we would not have married.” ”JaeJoong really said that ? Or a hoax ?
JJ doesn’t want to be associated with his past, he wants to promote a different image than the idol that his previous company forced him to do. He is not a Pierrot & no one can pull his strings anymore. He left all that to be free, & what you shippers do is try & enforce an image that he doesn’t identify with, & would not like to be associated with anymore. He acknowledges his past, & that’s where it ends in the past, he is JJ from JYJ now.
He is blocked everywhere so people can’t see the new him as he would love to.
Those fan-meetings are his only outlets to meet international fans, sadly a lot of them still connect him to the past, & disrespect his present.
Please read his Elle mag. translations. He couldn’t have said it more clearly. You can’t hide the sun with your hands, but you can easily be blinded with delusions, projections, & rudeness. If you want to know the reality of his & JYJ situation, follow the Korean fans example, all of them now support him in his solo activities & in JYJ & only JYJ.
if you have an ounce of respect to his humanity, you would keep your stuff to yourself & not bother him with it everywhere he goes.
He needs his fans support not humiliation, taunts, & disrespect. If after all of this you still insist on your lewd behavior, then please excuse yourself from here; as you’re not a fan, but an anti fan in disguise.
What the bloody hell?! I’m an OT5 fan and i think this is so shameful! What the hell people! Let it die already! It was funny at first when JYJ JUST had broken from SME but now it’s just damn annoying! It pissed me off when SO many people commented that No Gain was WRITTEN FOR YUNHO! WTH?! No! It is just a love song for nobody in particular! Are you completely ignoring the fact that JunSu’s voice is amazing and the lyrics are beautiful?!
See this is why when people ask me why i don’t ship YunJae as much as i ship SoulMate, MinSu or YooSu is because SoulMate, MinSu, and YooSu shippers don’t do this fucking insanity! Seriously! I got sick and tired of YunJae fans trying to shove the ship down my throat! And as much as i ship these couples i know that one of these days the boys are going to get married to a nice girl and have beautiful kids….i’m really scared what will happen when JaeJoong or YunHo get married…i fear for their lives and their wives…
I think that any solution here will have to come first from Jaejoong and then from the C-jeS management. Jaejoong’s going to have to address this situation very directly and after that, C-jeS is going to have to impose a series of serious, no-kidding-this-has-gotta-happen guidelines for any future fanmeets. THEN, if these YJ people can not be identified, corralled, ejected and controlled, management has to start crossing off cities as possibilities for future fanmeets. All fans of Jaejoong need to be aware that the actions of a very few disturbed people who masquerade as fans are ruining it for the vast majority. In other words, everyone will have to pitch in to end this. If Jaejoong says “stop this,” if C-jes says it and if all the actual fans of Jaejoong say “no more of this at our gatherings” then maybe things will change.
OOOO,,, gosh…. The baner … So beyond awfull … O.o. What is left in those pps brain? They will destroy career or kill someone with the actions.. That s just way too much, poor my boyT_T
I think jaejoong and cjes have made it clear on thailand fm and hope from now on all jj/jyj fans can take action too if you see/hear unrelated jj/jyj in jj/jyj event, don’t complaint on twitter but you have to confront them directly. It’s time to all jj/jyj fans do action, don’t give yunjae or other fans the courage to bring unrelated jj/jyj again in jj/jyj event. They can because we let them can. JJ/JYJ fans have to be more vocal and teach them to follow the rules if them want to come to jj/jyj event.
We can’t depend on promoter only to do something about them. Not all promoter care about jyj like fans do, maybe only 411 can because the ceo treat jj like his own son. So jj/jyj fans can only depend on other jj/jyj fans. Lets fight together….
I am going to jj fm in jakarta, bear seat. I will not tolerate yunjae or other fans to ruin my first meeting with jj. I heard kitty seat is sold to yunjae fans. And if the indo promoter same like nanjing, I prefer the fm is canceled or delayed until clean from unrelated jj/jyj. I can’t do this alone, but if am alone will still do because I don’t want to see jj like in nanjing fm twice.
where do you get those silly rumor???? I know someone who working from the promoter, there no such special treatment for YJS on KITTY SEATS. Oh come on….don’t tell me those YJS or OT5 tell you this silly rumor…as long as I know the promoter will do anything to keep their good name in front of CJes & JJ. They also make a clear statement on their twitter that IRRELEVANT THINGS are not allowed. I see it as clear as says only JJ/JYJ things allowed XP
Did this stupid incident really happen or is this a made up rumor fan account? If this is true these people are not true fans in my book. No true fan would do something like this to JJ. Something is definitely wrong with them if they have to do something so horrible like this!!!!!
I feel…..that many are falling into the trap of being pitted against each other. We’re all JJ’s fans. Yes we have differences and opinions but isn’t JJ the similarity? Some are being sucked into what these people want. Fights. and fanwars…within the same fandom and I’d assume that any celebrity would be sad that his/her fandom is fighting itself and next thing you know, a fandom and celebrity is given a bad name. That’s just how I feel…
@starraecer
Yes, I do see your point. Fan wars are foolish and never really solve anything. Then what to do? What happened to Jaejoong in Nanjing was WRONG, there is no possible way anyone can defend that kind of public shaming and embarrassment caused by this contingent of rude, delusional people. (I will never again refer to them as “fans” because if they proved anything in Nanjing, they proved once and for all that they are NOT fans of Jaejoong. They are his attackers.) Since I have seen nothing in the slightest so far that would suggest that these people have ANY intention of re-organizing their thinking and/or their activities to no longer include public displays of this kind where Jaejoong is present, that means everybody else has to go to the next level of protection against them and to make sure that they are kept OUT of venues, concerts, etc. where Jaejoong is present. Otherwise, what? Do we just abandon Jaejoong to these crazy people, look the other way and say “Have at him???”
DAMN!! this YJ-SHIT so ridiculous!!
too bad the FM wasn’t held at my country..or else..
they gonna face my wrath…*evil*
ESPECIALLY TORN DOWN those stupid banner!
Yea!! Im SO Gonna Do THat!
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May those that had hurt him will suffer dire consequences!!!
Oh dear god!! The poster is too much. I am worry about Indo fanmeet. YJS fanbase and OT5 fan base in Indonesia is too big. Omg I hope this incident will not repeated. 😦 My poor JJ.
I refuse to call myself an “ot5” but I do support all 5 of ‘them’, I support JYJ and the current TVXQ BUT WHAT THE HELL, THIS IS SO, YES, APPALLING. My god. I don’t know what to say anymore.
THE SHAME. WTF.
Someone who will attend JJ fm, here’s Indonesian YJS annoying plans. Please proceed and rip all yj shipper banners if you can, they are totally lost their mind, ugh. They nt rerespect jj, cjes and JYJ at all
HERE THE LINK
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jpecp2
@achii
Thank you so very, very much, my friend for posting this. I have now disseminated this information to all various interested parties. I have sent it to JYJ3 and to SH Entertainment. I have sent it everywhere I think may do some good towards cutting short these crazy peoples’ perverted plans to RUIN the Indo fanmeet.
Hello. achii. I would be the translator to the link you just posted. I really want to get this clear to those who have read it that it is only a possibility of such plans happening. Definitely a high possibility, but a possibility; no less, no more. Yes, I am delighted that many fans are willing to spread the news and raise awareness but that is all we can do. It has not happened yet and it might as well be something YJS fans leaked to other fans in order to create a fuss. I do not wish for this to happen, so let us take this possibility calmly and attend the fan meeting with enthusiasm.
Another reason for my reply is that some who have read the twitlonger are under the impression that I’M the mastermind behind it and I somehow lost some logical sense to spread it publicly and not secretly (opposing to the content of the translation, might I add). I must respond this way to those who did, initially or still hold on to this accuse:
*SCOFF*
There, now I feel a bit better.
Can someone tell me what the innuendo meant for the bear? I’m so confused
I am under the impression that YJS connect Yunho to the term “bear”. So if you read the question again, and replace the term with Yunho’s name, you will find yourself most disgusted and scarred (it’s a warning).They (YJS) all went crazy when the names of the seats in Jaejoong’s Indonesia FM were revealed (one seat category was named bear) and that’s how I got to know. It’s something similar to how Junsu is regarded as a dolphin and Yoochun a mouse (because of his old stage name, Micky).
Such act always happens with our dearest JYJ. Why? Does this happen to TVXQ when they’re doing their FM or concert? These idiots always targets JJ if you realise it. The public will think badly about JJ then. ~sigh~ I am really furious with such behavior with ill intention or stupid fantasy.
I hate this so much. Can’t they see they’re hurting JJ? Turning him into a joke in front of all these people?
I’m so disgusted I can’t even.
Dear, I think I need to mention this very nicely to you, but what you say here,
“WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT YOUR Jjoppa life Gosh!”
and all the quotes from the P-A-S-T imply /what/ exactly? That you know better than the rest of us? That you’ve actually met Jaejoong in person and he told you that Yunho is his other half, that he loves him very much, more than a friend? That “YJ” is very real, that all of us should know that, that Jaejoong has made it obvious to us “blind” fans?
Let me tell you what it is you’re trying to do here:
1. You are indirectly justifying the act of a wide percentage of YJ shippers who made what’s written in this article a cruel reality. (publicly hanging rated posters of whom they claim to love.)
2. You have proved that almost the entire fandom who believe in YJ are entitled to use past quotes or “evidence” to force “facts” about the “true love” of YJ, onto us “fans and stans”.
3. You are obnoxiously claiming to know everything about Jaejoong by copy-pasting his past quotes that may just mean “Yunho is a wonderful best friend” if only you didn’t read between the lines and included your fantasies in it.
“who gives a fudge if Jae is gay, straight, a unicorn, Who cares
because at the end of the day all of you guys ARE FANS Or Stans from what I’ve read….”
Then the same thing should go to you, because you are NOT a part of Jaejoong’s private life, you only know him as an artist, a great one at that who has an important reputation that people like you seem to want to tarnish so much despite claiming to love him.
Who do you love him as? As Kim Jaejoong, a great and successful artist who brings wonderful music to us?
No, you only love him as an object of your fantasy, that is YJ or simply “Yunho’s other half” or someone who is nothing without Yunho.
Of course people here try not to mention Yunho and Changmin’s names, because this is a J-Y-J site, only Kim Jaejoong, Park Yoochun and Kim Junsu. I don’t really care about what happens in their life, frankly.
I suggest you don’t hang around this site if you’re going to mention other names so much, especially ones who come from S.M.
@lilymichaels
The kind of fanservice that SM required of their acts is well known. They were REQUIRED to make it look real. There is no YJ, Crys~ any more than there’s an actual Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Like Santa and the Bunny, it was a MARKETING TOOL. That’s why these rules are in place for the fanmeet and they’ll be enforced. No Santas, Easter Bunnies or YJ at the fanmeet.
I am not Asian and therefore not very familiar with their habits and behavior. What I am reading here… it’s not about fans, but damn psychos!!! Give them a doctor to fix thier brains.
It’s that idiotic Korean “fan service” that leads to that deviant behavior.
And, by the way, if I like an artist, I like him/her for what he/she is doing on stage, movie, etc. I DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT to dig into his/her private life. THIS IS SICK!!!
These girls have made my oppa’s life so miserable.I am sorry I can do nothing.
I hope Jae oppa will understand most of JYJ fans are not like that and are very loyal and faithful.