130327 Tony Hong Twitter Update:
[TRANS] ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠThe reporter is writing fiction. I have nothing to say. ㅠㅠㅠㅠStop it.
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Because Hong Seok Chun was at Jaejoong’s concert in Hong Kong, some of the HK press have speculated that he is in a secret romantic relationship with Jaejoong. Instead of focusing on the success of Jaejoong’s concert, the media are writing sensationalizing slander against Hong Seok Chun and Jaejoong, damaging Jaejoong’s reputation overseas in the process. (JYJ3 will NOT be linking those articles, neither the originals nor the translated versions)
The reporters are using some extreme YunJae shippers as their sources/informants, taking leaked information–like this incidence to be true. The actions of these shippers led the news media to continue speculating on Jaejoong’s sexuality, taking the information even further to draw their own conclusions regarding Jaejoong and Hong Seok Chun’s friendship and including Yunho as an ex-lover.
Hong Seok Chun has already faced many difficult situations in his career for years after he openly admitted his sexual orientation to the public. This situation has escalated to the point that is beyond the boundaries of fandom. The actions of fans are affecting the personal lives and careers of real people. We should respect Jaejoong’s friend enough to not burden him with the consequences of fans’ actions.
We want to stress this is a serious situation, not a joke that can be brushed off. As an international entertainer, this issue could have professional consequences for Jaejoong’s work in the future. Finally, we offer this opinion we endorse from Hellothrice:
[NOTE: Please be aware I’m referring to extreme shippers in this post]
I don’t think some “Yunjae shippers” even realize how serious this matter is now. I see so many laughing about it, messaging Jaejoong and Tony (Hong Suk Chun) on Twitter. This isn’t a joke anymore. This is the careers of not one, not two, but 3 different individuals (Jaejoong, Tony, Yunho).
After Jaejoong’s event in Hong Kong, people had been talking about this on Weibo since the moment some extreme Yunjae fans began trying to manipulate others into believing Tony supports “Yunjae.” They continued to spread it and they threatened (still are threatening) to take it to the media as proof that “Yunjae is real.” But, it hasn’t gone as expected. In their attempts to tip media, a gossip site twisted the entire situation into their own version of absurdity and now it has spread Internationally.
Out of this complete act of immaturity and stupidity, now Jaejoong, Tony, and Yunho have had their names attached to this gay rumor. They are all Korean men. I wonder if people even know how long and difficult Tony’s own personal journey has been. Like many other real and sane people in the fandom, I am highly worried.
I only hope and pray now that the Yunjae exhibition being planned for Nanjing is stopped. Its not funny anymore, and the careers of the celebrities are being put at risk. If the media picks up on that, it will bring more stress and unnecessary attention.
In the future, I hope more people begin respecting the rules placed by C-JeS as well. I know some hate them, but instead of violating them and sneaking in items, you should focus on actually supporting the person/people in front of you for their own talents, and not your selfish desire to promote your own “belief.”
And for the record, I don’t care if the artist I support is gay. I support them for their talent regardless of their sexual orientation. I only wish others would learn to do the same and respect their personal and private lives. You are a fan, remember that. You are nothing more than just a fan.
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Tagged: Hong Seok Cheon/Tony Hong, Rumour Control, Yunjae
This is rumor is the most ridiculous sh*t ever! I have no words for this. How rude!
Yes, rumors r just that, rumors. When a fan become a fanatic obsessed person, stalking n making up things about their idols, thats gone too far. You can love n support them without going there. If u can’t do that, please go seek help.
However, I’m sure these fanatics/shippers will just deny they have any problems. So immature.
JJ n friends, no worry, ur true fans will support n love u no matter what.
JYJ fans, fighting! <333
But I feel dat nothing is wrong being gay! Is own choice, at least brave to admit.
OH MY @$@%$. This is so immature. I hope karma gets those rumor-starters’ butt!
This is unbelievable. How far are they still going to go? Drive Jaejoong on the verge of suicide? Is that what they want? Ruin his life? Cannot they see what they are doing to him?How can these people call themselves fans?! These are lunatics and their place is in a lunatic asylum! I wonder how they would feel if someone photoshopped THEIR photos onto gay porn pictures and went on the streets with them? I betcha they wouldn’t find it as funny! Big is god’s zoo and the fence is too low!
Oh, he’s already ruined–rumors or no. Living the life he does, he’s got nothing for him when he dies. I only hope he’s happy with the castle he’s made for himself because when the gray hair sets in, it’s going to crumble. Sorry, I’m not a fan of his.
A major and severe line has been crossed.
This is no longer about shippers versus fans; this issue has gone beyond shipping and fandom.
These are real individuals with lives, careers and families. How dare you do this to them?
This is not about homophobia; I couldn’t care less about whether he is straight, gay or anything else.
When did public “outing” become okay? So you believe he is gay, how is being confrontational and in everyone’s face necessary? How is purposely breaking rules established for events okay?
It is not okay that’s what.
There are those making money of selling this illusion and are feeding the frenzy of misguided fans. How can you continue to be party to something that hurts the person you claim to be a fan of?
This hurts Jaejoong.
For those laughing about this, still promoting your agenda and blaming JYJ3 or JYJ fans, look at yourselves. Looks how far you have gone.
Threatening to hurt other fans at fanmeets, because they want to take down your banners that were prohibited in the first place. Threatening to leak reports of your “proof” to the media. Straining Jaejoong’s professional and private relationships, all for what? How is this love. What do you gain?
This is harassment and just because someone is a public figure, doesn’t change that it is a form of bullying. You no longer care about him or support him, you just care for the attention and the high you get from your nefarious activities.
I am sickened by this behavior, by how far this has gone and the selfishness of those who should know better. You have hurt Jaejoong, I hope you take a long look at yourselves and let this be a wakeup call.
Please stop. Enough is Enough.
Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
These are not fans. This is not love. You don’t threat your loved ones, you don’t scream, I’m going to leak this to the media, you don’t intentionally hurt someone you love! These people are haters in reality, people who enjoy seeing others suffer and have take pleasure in seeing the “fruits” of their hate. These people are SICK and need medical help!
Dude! I mean, you just said that soooo right…I skipped the entire article except a little of the headline–so I don’t even know what you’re talking about!!! BUT…maybe you are…what was it? Oh, yes, “Sick”–no wait, “SICK” Get off the web and quit yelling at people you don’t know. You know nothing about truth and you don’t need to. This topic should not have been addressed. Wow, and you know while I’m going on like this, I’m on here myself! I mean, THAT is so hilarious it’s not even funny!!!
I don’t care if the artist I support is gay. I support them for their talent regardless of their sexual orientation. I only wish others would learn to do the same and respect their personal and private lives. You are a fan, remember that. You are nothing more than just a fan……..i am totally agree i love jaejoong from the bottom of my heart.i hope people support our jyj…they needs us now to support them for their comeback…..jaejoong fighting yuchen fighting junsu!!!!:))))
and the nightmare continues…I was a fool to think otherwise~*
I’m sportin’ a “Low Bullsh*t Tolerance”, Today! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ [flips a table]
YunJae Shippers!! are so freak’en annoying. They truly bring a new meaning to “Denial and Delusional”, they attempt to turn there fiction into facts. Who in the right mind does that?! YunJae Shippers need more than therapy. Don’t they get it. There very actions are causing majority of people to get hurt. The very people they claim to love are getting hurt the most. I don’t if I’m just old school but I was under the impression when you love someone you do everything in your power to protect them whether it’ll be physically, emotionally, spiritually, or mentally. You try your best to support that person not hurt them. This has gone too far, and is very sickening. These YJ supporters won’t gain anything by their twister actions. One person denial can become another person pain. Why don’t they get it! You are hurting human-beings!! these human-beings are just idols/artist but ppl with feelings like us. In the end of the day, they are very much like us. I’m very tired of these YJ shippers, they drag innocent people into there pot filled with denials and delusional’s. If, by chance a YJ shipper is reading my comment, I’m going to leave you with a thought ———–> No, I mean FACTS!
“Karma comes after everyone eventually. You can’t get away with screwing people over your whole life, I don’t care who you are. What goes around comes around. That’s how it works. Sooner or later the universe will serve you the revenge that you deserve.”
Referring to YJ Shippers: Feel free to dislike my comment all you want. But, guess what?! I have a whole army of JYJers who can back me up happily. I speak the truth, I don’t beat around the bushes. I just tell it how it is. The whole idea of equal justice under law means that you’ve got to play by the rules. It has nothing to do with the underlying subject matter. You just tell the truth. Open up ur delusional eyes damn it!!!
I’m not trying to intentionally make things worse with my words, I’m just tired of you people games! But, I’m not gonna stress it any longer because I know you’ll get what u deserve!
WTF?! Hong Kong’s tabloids have always been absolute scum (trust me, I grew up there and the tabloids there are absolutely the worst in the world), but seriously, WTF. I really hope that this escalate further and cause Jae to be stigmatized in Korea. I wonder if C-JeS will be releasing a press statement, or suing the media companies for libel?
WTF sorry typo. I hope this doesn’t* escalate
Argh sorry I’m so outraged that I couldn’t type properly.
they should sue the JY shippers first! all of them! to the court with all of them! I wanna see their faces when they get sued for damaging the reputation of Jaejoong.
I agree with you, I wish they would sue them, but the only problem is there are just too many of them! Ugh. I wonder if some of these shippers who still have a conscience will finally realize that their actions can have serious consequences. This madness has gone on for too long.
I hope Jae doesn’t take importance of this ridiculous rumor… they went overboard
I just can’t with some people. It’s sick. It’s truly sick how they can’t see that what they’ve done has crossed SO many boundaries. It was one thing when they were part of the same group and it was a fanservice things that both parties willingly participated in for fun. It’s another thing when they haven’t (at least publicly, whatever your opinion may be) seen each other in years and members of the media take something and run with it. They’re hurting Jaejoong (and his friends) and THAT is unacceptable.
It’s good that Tony said it out loud. The truth is that Jaejoong and Yunho’s continued silence about this matter only harming the case, further fueling those extremists fantasies. They should say something themselves too, to stop this madness because this is getting out of hand. Maybe those idiots would listen to them. Or on second thought… maybe not. :S
Exactly! That’s what I’m worried about as well. Why Jaejoong doesn’t clear up it? Why he is still keeping his mouth shut? That makes me assume many things…The only thing I want him to do – be honest with his fans, no matter what is the truth.
Because no matter how ridiculous it is, he can’t alienate “fans”. That’s why I understand his silence, although he’s thrown subtle warnings before.
And I do t knew how to say this without sounding rude. Generally, the craziest JaeHo shippers are th Chinese fans. This issue always tend to escalate whenever the boys go to HK and /or China. So I hope the sincere Chinese fans here help do some thing about it. I’d hate to see a good friendship between Tony and JJ ruined because of malicious fans and articles.
“. I’d hate to see a good friendship between Tony and JJ ruined because of malicious fans and articles.”
that’s what worries me ….that it would get awkward between them because of this .
The non-shipper Chinese fans have been trying for ages to stop the shippers, but nothing they’ve said seem to have had any effect, because the shippers are so far gone that they think Jaejoong approves of their behavior. And when anyone tries to tell them otherwise, they use their ultimate defense: “You can’t possibly know what he thinks either.” So basically all that happens is endless fanwars that lead nowhere. The non-shipper fans can only help to remove their banners and materials from concert venues and such, but they can’t change the way they think.
Sometimes I feel that as much as we would like to protect him from harassment, we’re really not in a position to do much unless he takes a clear stance, as it’s ultimately his private life and none of our business. :S And I’m not sure if the shippers would listen even if he declared their ship false. They’d probably come up with excuses like, “Oh, he’s just saying that because of social pressures, he doesn’t really mean it.”
What do you want him to do? have a press conference and say I’m not gay and I’m not Yunho’s lover? that only makes him so cheap , stooping so low with those maniacs level. If these shippers have enough IQ or have a functional brain, it’s clear as black and white, YJ and TVXQ materials are not allowed on his event, can’t they and we as JYJ fans get the message? I don’t think Jaejoong is afraid losing people in his fandom, by imposing those irrelevant materials rule, he’s risking a significant percentage of attendance in his event, but they stick to it, though not 100% implemented because of some shady people, but they are stepping up. I just hope Jaejoong’s legal team is studying this libelous and defamatory media articles.
would that even solve anything? they have said a million times that they want to get married to a WOMAN and have kids and have a family but somehow that just evades these lunatics and insist he is with yunho. in their couple talk yunho has asked them to stop doing this bullshit in the most polite and yet irritated way…u cannot explain anything to psychos. yunjae shippers are psycho and jae knows it.
I just wrote this on the Tony Hong thread but I may as well post it here too:
I truly hope that now Jaejoong will finally, at long last make a statement once and for all to these people that they are out of line, misguided and wrong. Many of us here have long wondered why he hasn’t done it before, but maybe now he will. We saw Jaejoong get pushed to the breaking point and beyond with the sasaeng “fans” last year, now it’s the YJ “fans.” I agree with xiaolongimnida – these are NOT fans. They are malicious little girls who are out to destroy Jaejoong for not going along with their agenda for him.
At this point he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
Like junkies these shippers are far into their delusion.
Even if he speaks out against the shipping, they will claim he is doing it to save face.
Even if he marries someday, they will say he is just being a filial son.
Despite HSC’s explanation of events, they still hold on to their proof and blame JYJ fans for
scaring him and forcing him to make that statement.
Below is an excerpt from twitter, about how crazy these shippers are.
She is actually twitting the magazine and other news sources.
These people are not fans.
shippers are creepy and they can be scary at times -____- and they can be annoying too
Why didn’t I take the blue pill??
Oh my Pinky you are so funny!
“Even if he speaks out against the shipping, they will claim he is doing it to save face.
Even if he marries someday, they will say he is just being a filial son.
Despite HSC’s explanation of events, they still hold on to their proof and blame JYJ fans for
scaring him and forcing him to make that statement.”
It’s SO depressing. Really, I just feel distraught right now. Yes, I have run up against their rationalizations before — he is damned both ways. But even so, I feel it’s way past the time when he should have spoken out, no matter what, if only to tell these people they are HURTING him and to stop. I feel it is a statement most conspicuous by its absence.
We discussed this the last round of JJ’s solo activities. I mean at this point it is depressing, but JJ needs to come out and say SOMETHING even if it is along the lines of (loosely quoted…”
Yoochun’s (during FM when someone shouted Yoosu in response to Yoochun wanting babies), “But me and Junsu can’t make babies together” type of comment
Junsu’s (during 3 day concert and fan shouting disappointment about him talking about/referring to a past relationship), “You think I haven’t been in love before?” insert disbelieving/disapproving facial expression.
It’s something JJ needs to address on the spot, not through an interview, not through CJes. It may not help at all, but I don’t thinks he’s ever really come out and corrected the behavior @ a fan meeting. I know its not his personality, but sometimes you only need to throw a punch once a la Yoochun during JYJ week fanmeeting.
I agree. He has to do something now. Honestly, I am still trying to get my head around HOW these deranged people could have done this to him…
I think he is too much afraid to lose “fans” to actually say anything in this matter. And frankly, even if he would, shipper wouldn’t stop. They woould make up reasons why JJ said this or that, they actully don’t care if Yunjae was ever real or not. They just want to live in dreamworld and no matter what, they won’t give that up, even if it ruins Jaejoong’s life. Take note, I said it well in advance.
Well, at this point I have to agree with my dear @Lilibaiyu. Jaejoong is delaying too much the releasing of an official statement. He needs to clarify this once and for all for his own wellfare and for his fans. As I said once and as Hellothrice wrote, I don’t care about his sexual orientation; I love him as he is: An exceptionally talented singer and actor and a wonderful human being. These nonsensical people is destroying his image and now it went intenational. I know this issue is pure rubbish, the lowest quality and it is affecting other public figures besides JJ. At this point I have to say: It’s almost impossible to stop these people; they don’t understand reasons, they only act as they pervy and evil being wants and now they are unleashed. The only way to calm down their evil impulses is making an official statement, anything, as short and direct as TH said: “The reporter is writing fiction, I have nothing to say…. Please stop this”, but the one who has to say it in his own style is Jaejoong, he is the one involved to the bones in this terrible gossip… “Lover, ex-lover” Oh God! Please, give Jaejoong the strength and the wisdom to manage this ugly issue in the best way.
Personally, I think part of why Jaejoong doesn’t say anything about this issue was explained in his 1000 days interview, although he was referring to the situation of them leaving SM & of SM’s underhand tactics & Homin’s verbal attacks on them – that it was better for JYJ to take the high road & not say anything. Can you imagine what could potentially happen if Jaejoong or CJes made an official statement about YJS?? The majority of the SK media would rip him to pieces, uninterested in truth or facts when such a juicy scandal is handed to them on a platter, & as unfair as it would be, Jaejoong would be the one looking bad in the eyes of the public. As horrible as it is, the cold fact is homophobia is still very much rife worldwide & these lies could have a major & disastrous effect on Jaejoong & JYJ’s careers. & as others have pointed out, these YJS have stuck to their delusions in the teeth of all evidence to the contrary. Jaejoong probably knows better than any of us just how deluded these people are & that in reality THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN SAY OR DO that will change their minds. They’ll continue to live vicariously through him & never once give a damn that they are hurting Jaejoong, Yunho & other people.
As for what his sexuality is, contrary to the excuse/defense/accusation YJS throw at JYJ & Jaejoong fans, I, like most, don’t give a damn. Yes I have a massive crush on Jaejoong, but more than that I love him for the person he is, for his character & personality & for his massive talents. He can be straight, gay, asexual, bisexual or anything else you care to name, & it would not change one iota of the love & respect I have for him, or of the joy & inspiration he gives to me.
those fans are gone crazy! i don’t understand with these fans who consider and claim themselves as JJ’s fans. that’s not love, this can damage his reputation. I don’t know till when they’ll live in delusional world. tskk tskk
Well i didn’t like it how they said ” You are a fan, remember that. You are NOTHING MORE than just a fan.”
Other than that i wish Jaejoong would get over this safely .
become jaejoong, although he is a very handsome, rich, kind hearted man, and has lovely personalities, is a stressful life. Please stay strong, Jaejoong! Just continue doing what you want to do, produce good musics to everyone. I support you, and JYJ.
Please please stop hurting these wonderful people. ): i have nothing against YunJae worshippers, but to those who are making their own very twisted ‘reality’, please spare one sane moment for Jae and his friends. I respect your beliefs but i think more importantly, we as fans, should respect the person we idolized the most more.
And yes, i have nothing against homosexuality. I’m a huuuuge fan of Neil Patrick Harris and Jim Parsons, from How I Met Your Mother and Big Bang Theory respectively. If they have talent, i will support them no matter what.
I believe Jaejoong, Yunho and Hong Seok Chun are stressful with their profession daily and to be part of these rumors would only add more stress to them! I hope those ‘hardcore’ shippers would put a stop before something irreversible happens to any one of them. ):
Sorry! I just had to put my thoughts here. i just had to get it out before going to bed or i’ll burst in flames. >_<
Let me not respont that article. The whole rumo thing is ridicoulos not to mention this little war thingy between JYJ’S and YS’S. I personally believe, that rumors would have spread even there are no YJ’s, because the media was TOLD to. Because it’s so obvious. So do not bash anyone only the person who thinks JYJ shold be destroyed, and the one who actually gives the money to destroy the. (Yeah… I think it was the SM) And please stop this rumour wave for Jaejoong’s shake. I’m glag to see that you are such a loyal site, that you not post artivles, and yeah i’m a YJ’s … not a hardcore, brainwashed one… though
All YunJae shippers are the same.
There is no such thing as a “sane” or “not hardcore” one because no sane/non-brainwashed person would be in a fandom that does shit like this over and over again.
Not all YJS are the same. There are those passive ones just like normal fans. It’s like saying sasaeng fans and normal fans are the same. They aren’t. Yes I’m a YJS too so what? Everyone is allowed the right to think what they want. And just because I ship YJ doesn’t mean I’m part of the “fandom.” These YJS are too crazy for me. For me it’s embarrassing to see what all these crazy fans are doing. I feel that they have been blinded by their YJ feelings and forgotten that they were probably Jaejoong’s fans to begin with. Therefore, I’d rather not be associated with this group of fans. I would never even think of taking a YJ poster/ballon/item to a concert of JYJ or Jaejoong nor TVXQ, because I simply feel that when I go to those concerts the concert should focus on the artist. I feel that these YJS stole Jaejoong’s moment to shine and this upsets me. I hope and at the same time I dont hope that Jaejoong will come out and say something to finally shut up the media. I just don’t really know or think anything he says would help his case. I support him without caring about his sexuality and hope he can soon get past this stupid scandal. And please, why would they involve him with Mr. hong? Have they not seen all the group pictures of Jaejoong’s twitter? He’s just a person with many friends and he happens to be one of them. Stupid media.
These YunJae shippers main aim is to ruin Jae’s life. These nonsense always gets stronger whenever there are new opportunities for JYJ to move forward as singers together. They are afraid the past will really become the past and they will never get their favorites (Yun and Jae) together again. So they make a lot of commotion to turn people’s attention to them. And sure enough, we’re always there to give them that attention. I have two suggestions, (1) Next time you see someone with such posters at Jae’s or JYJ’s event, just grab it and destroy it and pretend it never happened. This way they don’t get to harass Jae with it and they don’t get any attention from it by having the event talked about in JYJ or Jae forums. (2) It’s about time Jaejoong stepped out and made a stand for himself. He should either state it outright that this hurts him and wants it to stop or if he doesn’t, us fans should also leave these YJS weirdos alone. Because if it’s hurting him and he’s not saying anything about it for whatever reason, then whatever happens, he’s also to blame.
“. Because if it’s hurting him and he’s not saying anything about it for whatever reason, then whatever happens, he’s also to blame.”
I think I kind of agree with you but it sounds so harsh and the last thing I want to be is harsh with Jaejoong. But I also desperately want him to make a statement, a clear unequivocal statement about his feelings about the hardcore YJS and how they are behaving. I desperately want him to tell them clearly to STOP now.
Exactly what I think as well. One very directly and explicitly worded statement from JJ is not going to solve the problem, however it would do a lot to help the whole ‘you don’t know him and can’t possibly know what he wants’ defense these shippers keep running with. Subtlety is not working.
“These YunJae shippers main aim is to ruin Jae’s life. These nonsense always gets stronger whenever there are new opportunities for JYJ to move forward as singers together. They are afraid the past will really become the past and they will never get their favorites (Yun and Jae) together again.”
Well, that would certainly do it – ruin Jae’s life, that is. Returning to SM would be the worst imaginable for all three.
People who don’t know this are ignorant of the facts, plain and simple.
As one of JYJ’s fans, I believe that the love their REAL fans have for them will concur anything. Didn’t we stand by them during the SME and AVEX thing. This is no different. Some people out there are trying to harm Jaejoong with these rumors. We as his fan cannot let this happen. I don’t care one way or the other about his orientation. I just want him to be happy, healthy and very successful in anything he chooses to do. That goes for Yoochun and Junsu also. He will rise above this with the help and love of his true fans.
ITS BAD ENOUGH POOR TONY HONG WENT THROUGH HELL FOR BEING OPENLY GAY BUT TO DO THIS IS TAKING IT TO NEW LOW TO INVOLVE JJ’S FRIEND IN THIS CRAP FOR ATTENDING HIS FRIENDS CONCERT …………… I FEEL SORRY FOR BOTH AND I FEEL LIKE I CANT DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THIS I JST HOPE IT DOESNT ESCALATE TO KR MEDIA WHO ARENT THE BEST OF FRIENDS WITH JYJ
people need to grow up and not act like that, stupid and insensible about the consequences of their actions.
they are really not thinking about Jaejoong’s feelings and those around him…
JYJ fans and Jae’s will always stick with Jae, no matter what, but really,
Will this ever stop? 😦
OMFUCKINGGOD. People has no better things to do. Poor Jae, hope he’s not affected much on this issue, poor Tony too for getting dragged into this. Smh
I feel sorry for Tony….
Cjes has to do something with that. Clear it up or smth…it can’t be left like that. Otherwise, it will continue and there will be no end for that…Poor Jaejoong’s friends will suffer the most…
wow this is unbelievable… those people need to get a life… i hope jj isnt affected by these rumors.. there should be happy news regarding his asia tour.. not this crap =X
Mr. Tony, why didn’t you just kick that dang teddy bear to the curb and scream in their faces that they are ‘NOT A COUPLE”!!..Bros over psychos. JS
Jae should just do a hot video for Kiss B with a bunch of lady fans…Im volunteering~*
i bet even if he film a hot video, those crazy fans will still ship him with yh -___-
true…but it made me happy for second~*
CAN SOMEONE INVOLVED JUST TELL THE WORLD SOON, PLEASE!!!
THIS HAS GONE LONG ENOUGH, IT’S TIME FOR FANS TO KNOW THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH…
SO HELP ME GOD!!
It’s getting so ridiculous. Now this news was even on the front page of several news websites in Vietnam. And those disgusting shippers camp there to make more rumors. Hope that CJes can do something because it is getting really ugly for Jae. 😦
weird …why take such poorly written gossip from foreign press about someone who doesn’t even live in that country seriously ?
Vietnam’s tabloids are no better than Hong Kong’s. The worse part is not that this sh!t got on front page of one of the most popular teenage news websites but the current most voted comments are from YJS. Disgusted.
what I mean is , Jaejoong is hardly ever in HK …so what makes people think that a HK tabloid would know better than Korean or Japanese press/tabloid’s ? ..he lived most of his life in Korea and Japan so how is it they never once reported something like this about him ?
you think Dispatch wouldn’t know about something like this , or wouldn’t be the first to post it ? especially after what went down with them and JYJ ?
but now you can bet it will hit the Korean ( and maybe the Japanese) news very soon , with the title ” Kim jaejoong in scandal with Tony Hong ”
it won’t matter whether the source of it all makes any sense it’s to much of a Scandalous story to pass by right now .
@meme: you answer by yourself
Quote: “it won’t matter whether the source of it all makes any sense it’s to much of a Scandalous story to pass by right now.”
P.S. can’t find the reply button on your comment, hopefully JYJ3 will display the comment in chronological order.
Yep, I read that article as well, so pissed me off becuz there were so many YJS who just jumped n left the delusional comment.
*facepalm* ……I can’t with this stupidity .
i feel bad for Tony Hong he already went through so much in his life, his life wasn’t an easy one at all and yet this happend not to mention JaeJoong or YH what those two did to deserve this from ppl who call themselves their “fans” T^T this is so stupid and selfish i feel so sad right now i can’t even describe how i feel properly can’t they just love them for their talent and leave them alone? seriously? is Jae and YH’s career we’re talking about here don’t they know that koreans are not too friendly with this kind of scandals and for god sake it’s not even true this could ruin their careers forever this can damage their reputation and they might not be able to perform ever again and you’ll never be able to see them on stage ever again so what exactly are you gonna gain from this behavior of yours stupid ppl?
I hope that JYJ and CjeS have a top legal team to go after these scandal mongers. They need to be sued. As a journalist, I have never heard of such amazing lengths some Asian journalists will go to to spread lies. I would definitely sue all parties involved and ask for retractions in the newspapers.
Again, I feel horrible for Tony. Not only was he an innocent friend and fan, who regardless of the circumstance supported JYJ (still remember his appearance in “Come On Over”), now he’s being used as a tool.
I can only imagine his horror at watching another human-being being “outted” by his own fans, by using Tony’s sexuality as a means and method of doing so. How fucking disgusting. These aren’t innocent comments made on the internet, these are actual attacks by “antis.”
I hope jaejoong oppa wont be hurt because of this..oppa himnae!
even if JJ speaks out it won’t change anything,. simply because YJ shippers will never acceptany opinion contrary to theirs, even if it comes from the involved partiies’ mouths. They will find a way to say yeah he is only trying to hide it from the JYJ fans, he’s scared to admit etc. This will never stop. Never. Unfortunately.
Yes, that`s sad…
The other day, I saw a photo that broke my heart.
It was during a show, he was looking at a smut yunjae banner. He seemed so tired and a bit sad. The fact is… some shippers are scary, mainly yunjae and jongkey. They are agressive. I don’t understand what goes in their minds.
But I think that, with the years, they’ll start to move on… I believe only true fans (those who love him for the music) will stay. Let’s hope. 😀
So these sick fans try to say Jaejoong is a gay.So what,even he is gay,there is nothing wrong about being a gay.Gay couple can get married in USA.It is very normal just like anyone of us.So be real,care about you own personal life.You are not ruining Jaejoong’s life at all,he is going to have laugh about it.
No, of course there is nothing wrong with being gay, especially for us westerners, that’s not what this is about. It’s about being forceably outed, against his will in a culture which does not tolerate openly gay men. It would be damaging to his career. Declaring that you are gay is a personal decision which should be done only by the person themselves because of this stigma in Korean society.
No it probably won’t change things with the hardcore but there is another level of more mature, reasonable YJS who are simply intrigued with this notion when it seems so prevalent so available for one and all, all over the web. They might be persuaded if Jaejoong makes a definitive statement. Once there is only the hardcore left I think they will be easier to identify as NON-FANS. If the whole rest of the fandom rejects these people in solidarity with Jaejoong, then I think that will be a step in the right direction.
My concern about all this is how Jae is taking it, he’s a very sensitive guy. I hope those that care about him, like close friends and family will be close by so he won’t loose it and let all this BS hurt him in anyway. I feel some unscrupulous people are involve in all of this filthy mess, just think about it. JYJ are preparing for their concert in Japan and those low lifes will do anything to jeopardise that event from happening, even if it means screwing with someone’s mental and health being. Let’s just pray for Jae and for all of this crap to end and for whoever is behind this BS to get tripple their evil doings back at them! Like I had always say; evil never prevails!
you read my mind….i can’t even imagine how Jae must feel, and like you hope this won’t make him loose it in anyway..
I’m probably doing what some here have found so supremely annoying and assuming I know what Jaejoong is feeling right now but I’d imagine he is incredibly upset and depressed by this, ala the scandal about the sasaengs. By Korean standards this is damaging publicity on the eve of the Tokyo Dome concerts. Gee… what a coincidence.. I hope this puts to rest once and for all the question of whether or not hardcore YJS want to see JYJ fail and go back to SM.
@lilibaiyu So true, everything you said. SM the hidden demon behing the low life’s that let them in their souls to spread their evil deeds!
Smoke. Mirrors. Fire…..one would think that JYJ was about to hold a major concert or something the way these bogus stories are popping up. Why talk about all the positive things they are doing now, if we can regurgitate media garbage?? I gives no phucks about these crazy fans. From the shippers to derange wifey want to be. Shout out to Jae, Su and Chun!!! Do your thing in TK.~*
In heart and spirit….forever fighting!!
Dear JYJ 3, thanks for the continuous support for the 3 of them. Please don’t be disheartened.
Seeing them singing with all their might, we shall always protect and stand by them.
yunjae shippers are idiots. this should be SM’s fault for telling their artists to do those things.
I don’t care if jaejoong is gay, I love him because of his personalities and talents.
this rumour is fucking ridiculous…
always happened in china I means the worst,why?somehow I think why jae keep silent bcs just like with sasaeng this is something he must endure as an idol but dear jae that’s wrong,when they harm your friend and family then its time for tell them too stop and hold their self, and what I see is mostly hardcore/obssesiv yj fans is kid with full of fantazie in their mind
i don’t believe in any fiction written it’s just make me sick T_T to see people think this way he is just being good friend supporting his friend this people need some one to stop them realy
i wil always keep respect and love and support for kjj and jyj member forever
in the end… only god can judge people
My comments may no be in accord with you all … my anger is boiling …and it’s not directed to peeps in the republic.
Why does Kim JaeJoong have to clean up the mess made by irresponsible people? He doesn’t owe anyone anything? Those who made the mess, should go and clean it themselves.
Why does he have to come out and tell people this or that? He has no obligation to do so, he doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. PERIOD.
Why is always his job to attend to fans selfish incomprehensible whims? It’s not his job. You are just taking advantage of his kindness and his ability to handle extensive adversity? Why… because you buy a damn product. You also buy food, clothes, beauty products, and you are not going around whining to those people the way you do to him. The most you do, you may stop purchasing or returning the product. Not satisfied with what his music or movies are doing for you, return them, and move to something else.
What did Kim JaeJong ever do to you to behave in such an irrational, distructive way?
Why does he have to make a statement about his private life? It’s called private for a reason?
Why do you expect him to take a stand on this yj issue? Where is y in all of this? Ah, cowardly playing the matcho card and hiding behind the sleezysment. Why isn’t he protecting and speaking up for his man? Isn’t he manly man? Don’t manly men stand up for their loved ones? Go pester him!!! Demand him to make a stand
The only statement Kim JaeJoong company should make is that there will be consequences if his public life and his friends/family suffers any detrimental outcomes.
It may be a conspiracy theory, but i have a feeling that stronger forces are at work to wear this kind man down. We need to support him and re-emphasize that we are there for him as an artist, what he does with his private life is PRIVATE.
That’s what I been saying for like forever and a day…..but does anyone listen?? SMFHRFH
I understand how angry you are. Believe me, I’m at least that angry. The problem right now is that staying silent about his private life is what he’s been doing all of this time and unfortunately the fact that he doesn’t outright deny the validity of these crazy assertions by YJS allows them to use as one of their arguments “he really likes what we are doing. If he didn’t he’d say so.” Over time, the fact that he hasn’t spoken out about the shippers has become conspicuous. Regrettably, I feel something different must be tried now. It frankly makes me sick to think of him having to even consider doing this sort of thing but this situation would seem to call for a dramatic move on his part. There is a major career at stake here. Before I think he was worried about jeopardizing it somehow if he did speak out and rile fans but now I think he may jeopardize it if he doesn’t. And it’s shitty, trust me I know how shitty it is.
How many years has this stuff been going on though?? It just didn’t pop up over night. He has even played along with these ideas….for what ever the reason. I don’t think for a second Jae is the one to hold his tongue about something that bothers him, well not for very long. He is honest, straight forward and direct about things when he wants out. That I have seen. Its almost like he is being forced not to speak…I just don’t get it. But anyway…let the saga continue.
“I don’t think for a second Jae is the one to hold his tongue about something that bothers him, well not for very long. He is honest, straight forward and direct about things when he wants out.”
I don’t think that’s always the case. All of JYJ were conspicuously publicly silent about wanting out of SM, & even after they left they stayed silent about all the debacles SM & Homin maliciously unleashed on them. As they said in their 1000 days interviews, they wanted to stand up & tell the truth & their side, but they knew if they did so their words & actions would be used against them & that ultimately it was better for JYJ if they kept their mouths shut & kept the focus on their new careers as JYJ & as solo performers. Which could be one of the reasons Jaejoong hasn’t been blunt about YJS, even though he has made it clear in numerous ways & at numerous times that he isn’t gay.
This isn’t directed at you @pinky lee, but I wanted to add that I agree with @daebaksama. Jaejoong shouldn’t be forced into making any declarations about his private life, period. Trying to pressure him into speaking out & saying he’s straight is just as bad as YJS trying to force him to say he’s gay & that YJ is real.
Thank you for your comment, you just write what’s on my mind.
I’m seconding! THIS!
I’ve been looking for the purple butterfly since the beginning of the thread 🙂
To be honest, I had planned to skip the entire issue. It gets tiresome to see the fandom work themselves up over this because, you can just about see stuff like this coming. I said this before and I’ll say it again…prepare yourselves for a very rocky ride from here on in (this was many months ago). This kind of foolishness is orchestrated to come out when good positive things are going on in the lives/careers of the JYJ members.
How many fanmeets have there been…for all three members? Plenty, hardly a peep. Now we get ready for three days at TD…WOW, guess what happens?! Drama! Whoever is behind the scenes orchestrating this nonsense knows how volatile these yahoos are. That they are powder-kegs at their disposal. All they need to do is ignite them. Voila! Instant explosion.
Can it be avoided? I guess not. Can anything be done about it? Probably not, because innuendo and rumor are hard concepts to deal with. I read your comment below and agree completely with everything you said.
I agreed with you 100%. Why should Jaejoong made a statement to address a rumour? It’s not like people will take his words anyway. He mentioned a number of times how he likes to have family and even mentioned he wanted to have 3 kids. He described what type of women he likes in various FMs. If people believe he just said those things to cover up, what difference will a statement from him make? Those people want to believe what they want to believe.
The restriction on what ’s not allowed into his FMs showed his attitude on these issues. I am upset that some comments here said he didn’t take a direct denial approach because he didn’t want to lose ‘fans’ from a business perspective. To me, this sounds like he only cares for money. As someone mentioned earlier, the new rules on what stuff are disallowed certainly upset the OT5s and YJ shippers and impact the FM attendance , but Jaejoong still want to implement..
Same opinion as to why no one demand the other party to make a statement?
“I am upset that some comments here said he didn’t take a direct denial approach because he didn’t want to lose ‘fans’ from a business perspective.”
I too am upset with this kind of comments. Haven’t they realized that Jaejoong is directly giving up a huge part of his fandom by not allowing TVXQ and YJ material in his event?
Never said from a business perspective. JJ has always been very vocal on how much he appreciates fans, after all that is how they survived the blacklisting they received. It’s not crazy to think that JJ considers the thoughts and feelings of his fans in some small capacity. Is it right? Who knows. Is it a way I’d want to live my life? No way. Of course he doesn’t have to make a statement, he doesn’t have to do anything, he also doesn’t have to go to china where the YJ delusion seems to be the most prolific, but he does.
Whether ir not he makes a statement wont change my support of JYJ and i doubt it’ll change for any other JYJ fans. The YJ fandom gets worse and worse as time goes by and they’ve gotten their little piece of fiction on sites not devoted to YJ and are swaying netizens into their delusion who haven’t even ever heard of JYJ or Kim Jaejoong. And I honestly don’t know what to do as a fan. Ignore it? Since J has not come out against them, does that mean he’s cool with it and I should be too? This isn’t really about his private life, I don’t want to know anything about any of their private lives. This is taking a stance against the continued intrusive and abusive harassment he has experienced for the entirety his career. A stance that would make clear how I as a fan should conduct myself when faced with these issues.
Take JMA’s casting in YC drama issue. It did seem strange to me that she got cast, and the idea of YC being used made me angry. But YC said stop making an issue and I thought how can I get worked up over something regarding him when he’s telling us he’s ok.
I want to protect them in any small and meager way that I can. But fighting a battle for J without clearly knowing what side he’s on isn’t the most brilliant strategy. For all I know, he could find the whole thing amusing, though I can’t imagine how. Or he could be totally willing to accept the crazies bc they do claim to be his fans. I just don’t know anymore and I hate hate hate that people know what YJ is but have never heard a JYJ song or seen/heard any of their solo works.
I think in part Jaejoong keeps silent because he does care so much about his fans. Look at him & Chunnie saying how torn they were about the saesengs, feeling like they should love them because these crazies were their fans, even as these so called fans were making their lives a living hell? Personally I get the impression that Jaejoong in particular is so appreciative of any & every person who loves him that he feels an intense responsibility to give back to them whatever he can. He’s also an Aquarian, & the average Aqua believes profoundly that every person has the right to their own beliefs & opinions, even if others think those beliefs are bat shit crazy. I wonder if he feels like he doesn’t have the right to tell other people what they can & can’t believe, even if it affects him negatively. & Jaejoong is definitely the type to sacrifice his own needs & well-being for what he believes is the well-being & happiness of others, esp if he believes those others love him.
As for keeping quiet from a business perspective, this idea doesn’t bother or offend me. JYJ NEEDED their fans support just to stay afloat. It only makes good sense not to alienate a large portion of them when you’re very existence (professionally) depends on them, esp as Jaejoong didn’t only have his own career & life to think of, but also Chunnie & Junsu’s. But as time goes on, Jaejoong is making it clear by banning TVXQ & YJ products from his FM & concerts, that he is willing & happy to let go of those particular sub fandoms if they aren’t willing to accept him for who he is & let the past be the past.
Overall I just think there are more reasons & complications than we know of why Jaejoong stayed silent about YJS in the past & why he hasn’t made an open & comprehensive statement about YJS now. For me, the bottom line is we fans aren’t privy to what goes on behind closed doors in JYJ’s lives, or in CJes & it’s not up to us to tell them how to handle a situation, or how to live their lives.
@mkverse you are so right! People who have no idea about Jaejoong and go on Youtube (like one of my friends did), at the first search they get a shitload of YJ videos in their faces! and then they come to me asking, “is he gay?” “are they really together”? and for those people who don’t have a JYJ fan around them to explain, they remain in the belief that this man loves another man. And some westerners turn away from him immediately for this reason. It’s damaging his reputation, it’s creating a false image about him. what YJ shippers are doing is outright disgusting!
true , very true …however ..if the Korean press decide to report this as ” news” ( and they probably will) then I don’t know how he can not talk about it .
it won’t matter who’s fault it was that started it , he’s the one people are going look at for clarification or whatever.
*bows* Spot on!
But we need to look at this from all angles too: On one hand we have the “If you don’t say anything, it must be true” or “i’ll take that as a yes.” mentality that Koreans have. Then we have the “Don’t stoop to their level” or “Replying just gives them more ammo, etc.” type of thinking that businesses (Cjes & other management cos.) are probably advising their clients of. It’s a mess for sure. This is a “any publicity is good” nightmare that SME started and got way-out of hand. What Cjes needs to realize (and JJ too) is that i-fans see this “lack of response” in a different light. It’s JJ’s AND JYJ’s career (as well as YH’s) on the line since JJ is a part of JYJ.
….*sigh* What ever happened to just liking someone because they sang well? It’s about the MUSIC, people!
@daebaksama You don’t comment here often but when you do…BAM! You have said all I could have said and more. Thank You!!!
This really has gotten out of hand. 😦 I can’t even begin to put into words how I am feeling about this issue. It’s just really depressing how some fans just forget how it is to RESPECT their idols. 😐
Try harder you maniac shippers, haters, ignorant/unprofessional media –
pull Jaejoong down because he’s soaring higher and higher, he’s unstoppable, he’s scary, he’s going up no matter what!
to Jaejoong :
I find the best way to deal with this is to ignore it until you see success, then go back and say “I told you so.” “SUCCESS IS THE BEST REVENGE OF ALL!!”
There’s an article on how to deal with toxic people (they are the people who drain you of energy instead of enriching you, the people who pull you down instead of pushing you up, the people who require more then they can provide; the negative, whining, needy, manipulative people who can turn a happy day into a living hell, best example: YJ shippers pests)
1. Avoid toxic people (Jaejoong and CJes are doing it step by step, screening people/materials at Jae’s event.)
2. Anticipate toxic people ( Toxic people tend to have this ability to make you feel bad for avoiding them and to attach to you like a leech.)
3. Set firm boundaries
4. Get over your guilt (Most toxic people are very skilled at making others feel guilty when they don’t do what they want. This makes it particularly hard to set and maintain firm boundaries with them. But, there is a way out of this dilemma: getting rid of your guilt. It is your own guilt which toxic people use to break down your boundaries., remember how some OT5 blamed Jaejoong for not keeping up the AKTF especially when he changed his bio to JJ of JYJ, and most of them cling to this YJ craziness to be the only living link.)
5. Do not defend yourself (One of the worst things you can do is to defend yourself. It is usually a futile action and it only keeps an immature dialog going which eventually helps the toxic person get what they want. You won’t get anywhere with them by defending yourself and your actions. Unfortunately, toxic people are everywhere. And they tend to attach themselves to those persons who are kind and have the most to offer.) from Peopleskills.decoded.com
I think Jaejoong has some professional reference/consultants on how to deal with this dilemma, let’s just wait and see rather than blaming him on not taking actions the way some want.
It reflects to one’s level of mentality on how they believe a tabloid entertainment article. I still believe there are considerable intelligent people around the globe and they have no spare time to read this kind of article, and not all people take what they read seriously. If they like Jaejoong as an artist, they like his music, no amount of trash article can ruin him, so I’m not at all worried, I have strong faith to Kim Jaejoong, he’s worth a million times greater than what those cheap media are spreading.
I love your comments.
I’m just sad how some fans are putting the blame on Jaejoong on this mess and put him the burden for clearing this up,
how could they? I always believe Jaejoong is a very intelligent and smart individual, he reads a lot, talk to a lot of people of different fields of interests. I don’t think he doesn’t care to have a professional consultation about this matter, professional strategists expert in entertainment circus, not just fans.
Hi Kris, I hope you don’t think I was “blaming” Jaejoong for this current mess! Nothing could be farther from the truth. But to me “setting firm boundaries” does involve making a statement, a reality check if you will, just for the record. Something that can be referred to ever after as Jaejoong’s own statement regarding these crazy shippers and the things they do and will continue to do freely if Jaejoong remains silent. YJSs equate his silence with approval. I know this is true, I’ve read it again and again.
Certainly he has done nothing wrong. Certainly he has no need to “defend” himself. What a horrible thought! All I am saying is that since remaining silent has only led us to where we are now, it’s time to try a different approach.
This situation is almost like the birther nonsense in our country about President Obama. These dipsticks, no matter how much legitimate proof is offered, accept it. There is no rational explanation that they will believe, no matter how ridiculous their claim is that Pres. Obama was born in Kenya. The birther queen herself, Orly Taitz, has become a laughing stock.
You can lay it out with all kinds of rational thought and they will come up with the most incredibly idiotic BS you ever saw. You even have well known ‘personalities’ and a major TV news outlet, and all kinds of online pubs that spew this crap.
The vast majority of people know it for what it is, BS. The fact that the man was re-elected, resoundingly, shows that reasonable people know BS when they see and here it.
I am going to put my faith in the fact that this situation will be viewed in the same manner. People know crazy when they see and hear it.
When they can put meaning on his silence, the moment he opens his mouth about this matter, the more manipulative interpretations will come out in accordance on what they want to believe, so I think the best way is just continue to present the artistic excellence on him so no amount of crap can bring him down. I strongly believe that the most significant part of his fandom is the intelligent ones, those YJ shippers are going to extinction in few years. And those garbage journalism is always a part of entertainment world, how many Hollywood big stars are rumored to be gay but they are still there, they just brush them off or bring those malicious writer to the court. I think Jaejoong is fully focused on his comeback to Japan rather than paying attention to this nonsense. I believe he is secured of himself, he keeps hanging on with Tony Hong no matter how Korea views homosexuality, so yes, I think, this incidence is not enough to bring him down, society nowadays are getting smarter.
“When they can put meaning on his silence, the moment he opens his mouth about this matter, the more manipulative interpretations will come out in accordance on what they want to believe”
Yes, I fully understand the extent of their delusions and the depth of their ability to rationalize any situation to adhere to their skewed point of view. No matter what real world fact is put to them, they have an instant response. I understand that. There really is no reasoning with people who can photo-shop an image of Jae and YH in a compromising position one minute and in the next minute claim it’s the real thing. That’s some scary shit.
I don’t know what Jaejoong will do about this or whether he will do anything about it. Alas, we international fans have such very limited access to communication with him. I wish I could tell you I believed that Korea was just like the U.S. as far as their attitudes and acceptance of gays. I have been told so many times by so many people who have no reason to be lying to me that this is not the case.
Bottom line: I don’t want him to be hurt, I want him to be able to focus on rehearsals for Tokyo Dome now and little else. This attack seems all but designed to derail that. I truly and sincerely hope that the members rally around him and don’t let that happen.
I’m not worried about Jaejoong at all.I just hope like you suggested that he should get rid of guilt feeling and not consider these maniacs as fans anymore.
Jaejoong knows very well how to handle different situations.His first choice would be not to hurt fans,coz he is a very nice guy.JYJ did not make any statement after they broke up with SM and 2vxq and trueth speaks by itself by winning the lawsuit.And 2vxq went on the TV shows bad mouthing JYJ and also wrote the statement about their position which did not help to make them better.
When rumor goes around ,the best way to defend is to keep silent .Time will tell.
As the saying goes…The truth shall set you free. Thanks Kris.
@kris, I agree with you on this ” SUCCESS IS THE BEST REVENGE OF ALL” and everything you wrote, well said… JJ be strong! All sane JYJ fans are here for you guys..
Really worry about jaejoong.. be strong dear..
Its time for CJes to take some legal action.. its really to much..
Those shipper is not fans, they dont care about JJ and Yunho, they hurt both of them. They dont admire both of them because of their talents but they just obsessed about their sex orientation. Crazy ppl !!
I love JYJ and respect Homin.
Please dont hurt any of these 5 boys if you are truly a fan.
thumbs up for ur comment…and i don’t think YJS is a true fans… ! they make me sick!
Don’t you think that China reporters kind a funny? last time they report PSY and YoonA having affair….LOL~ and now this….don’t worry jae…I know you and love you for many years…so I’m not easily going to buy that…:D
Really? Don’t we don’t have to worry about this either, except that it’s affecting another’s life (who is actually gay). Maybe nextime we should just beat these lunatic fans up (lol, I’m kidding. A bloody concert will be the end of Jae’s career).
I want to say something here–seeing how much stress from outside forces JYJ has endured over the past several years, I would not hesitate to recommend that they seek therapy if they should need it. There is nothing wrong with therapy and they might find some solace to sort out all that they have faced. They have been under such stress, I think it would be a relief if they were able to unburden themselves of all they have gone through. I really feel for them.
Tony Hong is very brave and courageous. I wish him much luck and happiness. He can come to the U. S. if he needs a break from Korea. I think there are many gay organizations here who would welcome him.
omgh.. How messed up is this! Wow… Just because he’s kind & Sweet! & loves his fans! He’s like ALL MAN! Shut up people, Even so.. I would still support him & JYJ!
JYJ FIGHTING! These people will never stop tearing into him! I’m now praying so Much That HE Stays well & Stays strong! 🙂
Honestly i was a yunjae shipper in the past. I thought they were like romeo & juliet, soulmates that got ripped away from each other. But that image immediately got ruined when yunho stood against yunjae shippers, saying yunjae isn’t real (in fancams). I think if jaejoong speaks directly too, there wouldn’t be misunderstandings.
yes.. yunho so pissed off with this shipper thing and he show it’s!
“But that image immediately got ruined when yunho stood against yunjae shippers, saying yunjae isn’t real (in fancams).”
may i ask where YH said that? any video?
i think somebody alr posted it’s here before… i don’t remember the title… it’s something about couple talk…
too bad, this time, some major press even paired up Tony Hong with Jae.
Pray for Jaejoong!
Geez just last week, my sister who is a big jaejoong fan, speculate when she knew that jaejoong has many gay friends. I can scold her cuz she’s my lil sis. This only shows that jae is open and unbiased towards gay people. whats wrong with that?
Even if the probability of he’s gay is higher cuz of that fact (homosexual people tend to gather together in a circle..i know cuz my friend is one) whats wrong with that?! I cant believe i have to scold a jaejoong fan for this. for me, even if junsu’s gay, i wouldnt mind. its not his sexuality that drew me in, but his vocals!
“jaejoong has many gay friends.”
really ? ..who else of his friends other than Tony Hong is known to be gay?
ah, she ‘speculate’ she watch videos of jae, like come on over, and his pics with his social circle and ‘thinks’ that most looks gay and say prolly gay. speculation is the roots of all shitty rumours. (personally i think that most korean and japanese male look feminine. not gay.)
oh I see …well it’s the problem with most people , because people will never EVER stop assuming they can tell that much about a person they don’t actually know .
I had people making up whole scenario’s about how I got married because I change my styling and was wearing a ring ( that was a gift from my mom ) then pregnant because I gained weight ( I just let myself go lol) then had a miscarriage ( because I lost the extra weight) and lastly , then said I got divorced because they saw I wasn’t looking stylishly good any more …and these rumors were from people who don’t know me at all ( they just see me at work).
Stupid people will always be stupid it’s in their genes ! ..
JJ and JYJ have been moving form one hell of a mess to another and coming up victorious ..
This whole thing is just another hopeless try to affect their upcoming Tokyo Dome Tour ..
So, My dear fellow JYJers we have to stay calm and trust JYJ , Support them and love them as we’ve always did ..
This should suffice http://jyj3.net/2012/08/11/news-120810-kim-jaejoong-jin-yihan-hyungs-mysterious-glance-we-are-close-so-dont-misunderstand/
“Kim Jaejoong also received attention for working with Jin Yihan. As they worked together well and looked compatible with each other, they also experienced unintentional misunderstandings.
Kim Jaejoong said: “People said that we look good together to the point that there was a mysterious mood in the scenes I had with (Jin) Yihanie hyung. They were suspicious of the look that he gave me. It was to the point that the word gay came out as a related search for Jin Yihan. Haha! I think it’s because we are close?”
He’s been through this before and as you can see, it was him who had no problem and used the word “gay” and laughed about it. Let him handle this. Don’t overdramatize, don’t cause scandals. Specifically, don’t try to defend him by raising prejudice. Stick your heads out of fandom for once. Jaejoong is a cultural icon for goodness’ sake. The best ever if you ask me. And he’s certanly not the first public figure to inspire homoerotic fantasies. If it bothered him, he would say something about it. But I have a feeling that equating the word “gay” with “insult” -like some do-would be more damaging to his kind heart. Even if it’s not something he needs personally, I think he would like to contribute to change in society. Are you gonna help him with that or are you going to put your expectations about him first?
Finally, if you can read French, you should read this. It’s about growing tolerance in China, it’s good news. http://t.co/XBrUVwd0Tz
I hope Jj will avoid twitter n the internet for a while coz it is totally crazy and i wouldn’t want him to be disturbed with those sick stories..but i feel it’s about time for legal action..doesn’t journalists needs to practice some kind of ethics?
Dearest our sweet Jaejoongie…Pls stay strong, we believe in u, a truly fans know u better than those crazy ppl..pls don’t lose ur focus for this upcoming TD Con..I know u’re so professional & strong to face these stupid rumors..Hugs TT____________TT
Please tell me that this is all some nightmare we’d rather not have. It is not exaggeration to say that I am truly disgusted as to why this situation must exist and even more revolted at the those responsible for the depravity of their actions that have created these compromising circumstances that should have never existed. I cannot truly express my horror at how they’ve been reduced to resorting to such methods. In using one of JYJ’s nearest & dearest friends who stood by them all way, they have also brought upon an even more painful situation to Tony-sshi who would never wanted this for Jaejoong or himself in the first place.
I would hope that I am wrong, but is it just some eerie coincidence that there was a similar attempt at sabotage last year?-a time most of us would much rather wipe from memory… Of all times when we are the cusp of what is expected to be a triumphant return to Tokyo Dome… The timing and conditions are far too convenient in the event that these are underhanded efforts to take the attention away from Tokyo Dome. However, the most painful thing that pierces the deepest is that this hits us where it hurts most of all. I can’t even begin to think of the pain that someone we’ve come to care about so dearly and one who is so much more deserving of so much better could be experiencing is unbearable, It’s so unfair, it’s criminal. Enough is enough..
“This is the careers of not one, not two, but 3 different individuals (Jaejoong, Tony, Yunho).”<<<<<<<<<<<< YJS read this properly and THINK!!!!… Yunho and Jaejoong work hard for their career in this 10 years… they faced so many difficulties and hardship… and because of this insane/crazy YJS their career in danger! i hope i can punch YJS face one by one…
This is so fucked up. Like really! Fucked up! I hope this doesn’t damage JJ’s friendship. And people who spread this rumour, I hope you rot in hell.
Jaejoong be strong…..and Tony Hong.
All best we can do at the moment is stop talking about this press. The more we talk about them more happy they are and that’s what tabloid purpose is, creating a buzz and getting people attention. Quiet doesn’t mean we agreed what they have done. We just don’t want irrelevant stuffs near and down us.
These smear campaign obviously with intention drowning JJ and JYJ current activities. CJes knows the best. Just let them do their job and us only need to report whats went wrong in fandom.
JYJ has fought hard and strong. They have shown that even though there are obstacles ahead to achieve their highest dreams, they are willing and able to persevere. Vigorously they face anything that comes their way, I know so because I have seen it, still they show no remorse by the way they want to follow their path freely with no boundaries but their own, even if it means to loose certain aspects on how others might view their actions, but if you consider the value of a humans right to live and love without any pressure in their health and mental capacity, than you now know how to give the fair value to those that stand firm on their beliefs and the way they want to carry their lives without no one pointing a finger of accusation, when they do and say whatever they please. If certain person wants to achieve their goal in life, however they want to, not however you want to, is because that makes them happy, not what pleases others! Specially Jae, he has gone through so much, I don’t think this will defeat him. I admire him, as an actor, singer, producer, specially as a human being because he has his feet so set on the ground that he knows how to walk cautiously, yes I question the fact if he can get through this and that, but I should give him the benefit of a doubt that he can conquer anything that anyone/anything throws at him, he is courageous, he has proven so in so many ways I have admire him for that. Jae deserves better that what this demented evil demons are doing and saying about him. I believe in the thruth and in the end it will reflect on the darker side of those that are trying to make the lies brighter. Jae is loved, will be loved no matter what, who says this and that about him, his personal life has nothing to do with the pure fact he has achieved so much in his career so putting that aside, respect him as what he wants everyone to see him for, a loving, kind human being trying to achieve the impossible and until now he has made it possible, I stand firm on my words and will support Jae no matter what! JYJ Fighting!!!!!!
He’s going to have to address this issue. Its his silence that feeds them the most. That and those people are delusional. He’s beaten around the bush over this subject. Just like those stalker/psycho fans forced him to speak out. And you can bet if they attain any kind of success in the west this issue will come up. Might as well speak out now on his own terms than do it with his back presses up against a wall like last time…..
Also, wth everything that Tony has gone through in his life, I’m sure he has developed a thick skin and a personality to let some things slide. But for him to come out vocally, shows how upset he is. I feel bad for him. Being draged into this.
I was there in the fanmeeting. I have no idea Tony Hong was there too. And I didn’t aware fans bringing Yunjae stuff in the venue. Staff did check our bags one by one. Just curious how those crazy fans can sneak yunjae stuff inside. I am not 100 percent sure about this but I think those Yunjae fans are from China, not Hong Kong.
YJS are JJ anti-fans….period.
No real fan would hurt their star, dragging his name and all the hard work he has been through for the past 4 years to the ground.
JJ, was & will always be an open minded person, he can have friends from all circles and walks of life.
Who are you to judge his relationship with a close friend who was a firm supporter when everyone else ditched JJ & JYJ.
You are a bunch of selfish, immature people. I hope this incident become a turning point for everyone. JJ doesn’t need your self proclaimed support. For the sane shippers that keep their fantasies to themselves, now is the time to respond and apologize to everyone on behalf of your cult. That is if you really care about JJ .
This fan meeting tour could have been a major source of PR for JJ after his successful solo singer career debut, yet here we are, with all the attention turning somewhere else.
As for ppl saying he should address this travesty, no he shouldn’t, why even acknowledge these pathetic fools for a second. He will continue to address this issues through his fan meeting and concert rules. Tony doesn’t either need to justify his friendship to anyone.
I think of JYJ3 as my boys and to think someone would malicously align them is scary but as a women of God I do now that that might mean evil intent but it would not only backfire on them but due to the light the boys shine the truth would set them free…. So for all people doing this twisty stuff remember what happened to sodom and gomora. This to will fade…… Love my JYJ family… kisses…
only a opinion of mine, u may not agree…
“when u saw it just ignore, when you listen still ignore , when you felt angry also ignore….. do not show any respone, just enjoy JYJ stuff and news, and support their activities” we are jyj fans which always deal with typical problems and we are smart enough to notice what is wrong and true. Public are not fans they will not get intrest with this issues but if we some how accidently make it to hot issues then we have to blame ourself, cos we accidently help it to grow.
i only hope someday Jae get confidence to deal with these shipper fans….
Holy shit. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE DERANGED PEOPLE. CAN THEY NOT SEE THAT THEY’RE HURTING JAEJOONG AND EVERYONE AROUND HIM? Are they happy about being able to slander their idol and his friends? EVERY TIME Jaejoong is striving to his personal success rumours about his sexuality pop up, especially with Yunho. I’ll admit I’m somewhat of a Yunjae/Jaemin shipper–heck, I ship everyone with Jaejoong >_>–but I would NEVER shove his relationships with whoever in his face like that. And I’m sick of people who do that and ruin the fandom for everyone. WHO THE FUCK CARES IF JAEJOONG IS GAY OR STRAIGHT OR BISEXUAL OR WHATEVER. He has a beautiful voice and a ton of talent WHICH IS WHAT THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON.
Somehow, delusional YJ shippers seem to think Jaejoong is an easier target for their delusional whims. Yunho doesn’t get this level of slander, which I totally do not understand. If they are both involved in this, why do YJ shippers not bother Yunho as well? Not that Yunho deserves this as well. NO ONE DOES. Seriously, who the hell would want to be associated publically with someone when they know that person is a scandal magnet? Do those shippers WANT Jaejoong to be isolated or something? I, just.. this is so immature and they need to stop. Just stop. It’s not helping Yunjae, it’s not funny, and these kinds of shippers are just as worse as sasaengs.
Jaejoongie, be strong. ♥
wow seems like they’ve hit a new low. what a bunch of delusional lunatics….can these bloody yunjae shippers stop already. i think ppl need to ship these bitches to psychotherapy, so that the world could be at peace.
I think they are really just saeseng fans hiding under the name of Yunjae shippers. If you were a fan you’d never want to harm them or do things to make them be seen in a bad light. JJ FIGHTING! JYJ FIGHTING!
UGH lkjasdfk they’ve seriously taken it too far…….. these people are not fans…
ugh yunjae shippers have irritated me in the past with how delusional they are and this has just brought me to a whole new level of agitation with them… @_@ bah these damn yunjae stans…….
I hope JYJ3 admins close the comment section here. No more attention should be given to these crazy people whose only aim is to divert people’s interest from the boys’ achievements and probably from the upcoming T-Dome concert too. Maybe next time we should ignore them too, since they are not part of the fandom.
The whole thing is just too annoying…. you choose to believe its your right, but remember, you are after all just a fan only, you will never ever step in the idol’s real life so pls show some respect, go home learn more things and get a life… those delusional YJ shippers!!!!! Not just childish, but selfish and foolish!!
This is disgusting. These shippers have no life and want to ruin Jaejoong’s life. He worked so hard on his career and these stupid shippers are trying to ruin him. Such immature and ignorant people. I wish he make a statement about this to clear things up. Those shippers are parasites. They are not real fans. Why can’t leave the poor man alone? This is depressing. I’ll support Jaejoong no matter what happens. Real fans are fan who stick by their artist(s) forever.
LOL YJs are so funny! they were like … ‘you don’t know true love if you can’t accept that JJ is gay’, ‘You only want JJ for yourself’, ‘you are homophobic’ etc etc… but they bash Jin Yihan, Tony Hong, when they had scandal with JJ… So, their ‘I believe JJ is gay’ only works for Yunho and Yunho only… -____-” They can’t accept JJ being with other than Yunho but they said we are homophobic… so funny. They also hate Go Ara to the core because of Yunra rumor…the girls that marry JJ & YH in the future have to be very strong because these YJS are lunatic and barbar…. they are scary.. mentally ill….
When these young man finally meet the right one and get married we will all rejoice… ok and laugh in peoples faces I know that is not very nice of me but can I have this one… please
My poor JYJ/JJ :-with insane YJs and saesangs like this——- who needs enemies and antis?
SM must be laughing themselves sick over their success in cultivating an entire generation of selfish and delusional youth who perverts the very meaning of “fans” with their psychotic obsessions.
Malicious slander/actions like these are not just unconscionable and pathetic but actually deemed as criminal behavior in most 1st world nations. It is simply too bad that YJs and saesangs cannot be held legally accountable (at least for now) for the vile poison they spew.
ooh God.. i had stuck in the middle of 7 hardcore YJS in his last fanmeeting.. And i swear i cried because of their act. It’s not funny anymore, it’s crime..!!!
My lecturer said some people has 2 heads, YJS does..! yeah 2 heads, their left knee and right knee..!!!
I think it’s time for both Jaejoong and Yunho to say out loud to clear this crap..!
Ah…. such an imperfect world we live in….unfortunately, controversies are part of the life of a person in the limelight and JJ and friends just need to persevere and move on. Fans will do fans do, whether to protect or not, that’s the world of fans…who can control this but the fans themselves, those who choose to protect will protect and those who wish to live their delusional thoughts will do so, as well.
Irregardless, JJ, live your life as you choose… you may lose some, but you would gain more in the end … does it matter to me — it does not — I followed you since 2004 and watched you mature into a strong, principled and talented successful artist and happy in what you do — that is what matters to me.
I had my stage of shipping… it was cute way back then when it was a means to support the 5 but I moved on when you chose to separate with Junsu and Yoochun… JYJ music, and your solo activities – that is what I support, because, personally, the three of you are the only Korean artists, I consider worth following.
Shipping should mainly be and should be limited it to anime characters, — that is where it should stay — real people, unless shipping characters of movies, or TV shows — fine but I draw the line — never with private, personal lives.
Hopefully, other shippers would come to realize the difference and learn to draw the line.
I am very confident, JYJ will continue to shine despite controversies …. you all have done so since 2009 …. much, much brighter — if I may say so…. JYJ FIGHTING!!!! To your successful return in Japan and enjoy the three day concert at the Tokyo Dome … I wait with great anticipation to viewing vids of your performance!
Thank God somebody cares about these celebrities reputation.. What you say is true these boys are real, they are sensitive people just like us, they do get affected by these malicious rumors. I wish people would be more kind towards these talented boys, who have only given us beautiful songs & so more to look forward too. I Love JJ…& wish him only HAPPINESS!!
They are jerks and not fans!
Why.. why all these awful things had to happen? Why no respect for JJ?? TT i hope Mr. Hong will be okay TT
Be careful what you do, because a lie will become the truth…Yunho is not his lover. ~*
Glad this thread died out.
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I just want to say that because the yunjae fandom has so many fans, its unfair to categorize us into troublemakers in general.
What Im saying is, dont just generalize us with some of the extreme things that other yunjae fans do. I think the yunjae banner stuff and teddy bear is okay since it was a concert, but just the overanalyzation and subsequent colored account/publication of it is what went wrong. The media colored it up worst. The damage was done there the most when other neutral fans read the news.
Im a yunjae fan and i am still a normal fan. i buy their cd’s and support their music career, since dbsk times. I go online and read fanfics and i think its a great venture to unwind from my strenous schedule at work.
I like their affection for each other. I say its true to others, but i say it in a way a person relates to experiences in real life, when i see two people as affectionate as them. I dont argue with anyone who ships jae with other people, but just think it comes with the territory.
I have no clue if their relationship is platonic or not, but i still function normally in sites, i do act like a fangirl by spazzing with other people, but not to the point where i hound jae on twitter or spread malicious stuff about them.
Not all yunjae fans resorts to these things, some of us even gather together to donate clothes, foods, etc, in the name of the fandom.
I love yunjae in how special they treat each other ( chun and jae i think are closest in dbsk though, i think).
Anyone can always tell other people how to fangirl properly, but you honestly cant expect your words to make sense to them when you say offensive things that will make them defensive to their beliefs.