After C-JeS Entertainment revealed that LOEN Entertainment had changed their terms for Junsu’s promotions, LOEN Entertainment revealed their own stance.
LOEN Entertainment said, “Right now, we’re still in the stages of discussing the terms of Junsu’s album promotion contracts. We haven’t signed the contract, and there’s nothing confirmed. Since there’s nothing confirmed, we can’t reveal the details. But one thing that is definite is that the article was released before anything was fully decided.”
They added, “Junsu’s label said that we closed all the events, but they’re still all going on. During the contract signing stages, opinions can go back and forth all the time during the negotiation process. We could have talked this out, and we’re shocked that they said we broke the contract. If it’s like C-JeS said, Junsu’s showcase event page on Melon’s homepage should have been taken down, but it’s still open and functioning normally. We’re also going to reveal the chosen fans to attend the showcase on the 11th, as scheduled”.
However, C-JeS Entertainment responded, “We sent our statement after receiving the sudden news 6 days before the showcase. We also told them that if they did not answer, we’d be spreading this to the media. But we had no answer. LOEN Entertainment says that we were still in the stages of negotiating and that we hadn’t signed the contract, but we started the pre-orders and even started receiving entries for the showcase event. If we didn’t have the contract, shouldn’t none of this happened?”
They added, “Junsu is busy with international CF filming and his Thailand schedule. The reason he planned this showcase is because he wanted to show himself to the public. Since he can’t come out freely on broadcast, we prepared a free showcase to show his stage through Melon TV. Since the label is paying for the showcase, if Melon TV will not air it, there’s no reason to just have this exclusively for Melon customers. We’ve currently asked LOEN Entertainment to answer until the afternoon of the 9th (KST). If this doesn’t get fixed, the label will invite the fans, and the event will be canceled**.”
**Note: This is a mistranslation, and instead, the showcase will NOT BE CANCELLED. CJES will simply invite fans instead of giving tickets to MelOn users. [info via @ohmyjunsu]
Source: TV Report + Newsen
Translated by: jennywill @ allkpop
Shared by: JYJ3
Thank you Cjes for not standing down and sticking to your guns, they didn’t have the decency to respond on time. I for one will believe CJes before Loen.
it was also Cjes fault for not getting a contract with LOEN on paper. They made several errors in the past and only affect our JYJ.
We don’t actually know what the situation was, maybe Loen purposely delayed signing a contract with Cjes because they were planning on pulling the rug from under the boys 6 days before release of the album. I read somewhere (a comment) on one of articles here that Loen signed a contract with SM around the time that they were supposed to sign with Cjes. Cjes is a small and very young company they are learning so the will make mistakes, but they are there for our boys when no one else has the guts to work with JYJ.
I think what Cjes need to do right now is to quickly find a way to promote Junsu’s album instead of going back and forth with that stupid Loen. I really feel bad for Junsu, hope his album sells awesome.
well done Cjes..!!! If they don’t follow what they agreed So going to the second opcion ‘just for junsu’s fans and not for melon custumers. Don’t let Melon get profit with JUNSU
I support Cjes… thanks Cjes
Hmmm… So is Leon going to show this showcase on TV? This is the main issue, isn’t it? C-jes contracted (yet to be signed) with Leon because of the tv promotions they will get for Junsu. However if Leon suddenly decides to stop all tv promotions, then they become entirely useless to C-jes.
I think it might be worth our while to ALL tweet @LOEN_MUSIC today and suggest that they “do the right thing” to further avoid a P.R. nightmare of epic proportions. Let’s let them hear from us!
Already done! 😉
I ve already tweet them abt this just now..lets spam loens twitter and ask them to do the right thing!!
Already did!! We must stand up for Junsu^^
YES @ Lilibaiyu
This is from 10 Asia too
http://www.tenasia.com/archives/64032
Done (⌒‿⌒)
^__^
Done 🙂
LOEN, what you failed to remember…when you tell a lie, you have to remember that lie before you make up more lies to get your stories straight. But you keep practicing. BS artists need all the work they can get. See Yah!
Xia Junsu & CJeS FIGHTING!!
Tadaaaa……Ggggrrrrrr….╰(◣﹏◢)╯CJeS with claws. I kind of like this image (˘▽˘)
Im srry but that emoticon looked like a bikini or something…hahahahh
Lol
I’m just going to go ahead and questioned cjes, after all that have been done and what jyj has been through, shouldn’t they put everything broadcast-wise written down in contract? I can’t believe they didn’t think the possibility of the same stunt be pulled time after time.
I want to know what kfans have to say on this matter
If this doesn’t get fixed, the cjes will invite the fans, and the event will be posted on their official youtube channel
@Shayra
All fans , korean fans and i-fans, on youtube and twitter, had been on LOEN’s case, the same time C-jes lashed out on LOEN.
All sides were replying in vengence together against the enemy. Not knowing they were doing it as one. But all of us were fighting as one against LOEN .
LOEN is the largest company, but it was cornered that it had to quickly respond to media and confess to different media venues that, it did agree to do promotions with C-jes. Then they try to salvage their reputation by saying they are going to do as planned and did not nullify the contract ect lies to quiet fans and C-jes up.
C-jes is still in claws, and so are fans. this is how we shake the giants. As one.
LOEN got scared of the venom reaction on youtube and twitter & with c-jes lashing out in the media. This all shook LOEN into distress.
@kalus
” this is how we shake the giants. As one.”
THIS!! Yes!
”this is how we shake the giants. As one.”
Exactly THIS ~ proud fan here ^^
As one. Yes Kalus, that’s the way it is.
And thank you for all you have done for Junsu, JYJ and C-jes during the whole day (and the days before) 🙂 🙂 🙂
@lilibaiyu @makiforJYJ @ Albicat
you gals and the other JYJ fans I met on this site, are part of the strength, and courage of the fandome.
God bless you all. The fandom is LARGE, Powerful and victorious. SM and LOEN will regret messing with the fandom.
@Kalus
I mean to do everything I can to make Loen regret messing with the united fandom of JYJ. And I would call upon all Cassiopeia visiting this site to go back to your friends and fellow club members and ask them to send messages to SM that they too will not tolerate any further dirty dealings and backroom deals to damage the careers of the members of JYJ. This latest outrage has SM’s fingerprints all over it as someone else here said earlier today. In addition to our own JYJ fandom, we must call upon those still buying SM product to join with us to STOP this unfair and illegal interference NOW.
It’s true, immediately the comments on you tube became critical of Loen, I saw so many furious comments this morning. Thank you Kalus for all you did to stand up to them today. I know I understanding the situation better because of you and others here.
@ Cheryl , Thank you. I try my best.
@ Lilibaiyu Brace your self
http://www.soshified.com/2013/04/yoona-and-seohyun-endorse-sk-telecom-lte-in-new-ad-campaign
They say, SM has contract with SK telecom, this around April, this is the time C-jes sat having talks with LOEN.
LOEN was put in charge of SK telecom. (by SK group I think since it owns LOEN)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOEN_Entertainment
SM is sign with SK telecom, So LOEN not only knows, but allowed the contract with SK Tel (since it’s in charge of it) and SM, so its a contract with LOEN indirectly.
YES, SM is involved. It lied about not bothering JYJ.
That contract withdrawal was just to protect SM’s reputation.
SM is behind the promotions cancel indirectly.
I’m going to bed now.
@Kalus
“YES, SM is involved. It lied about not bothering JYJ.
That contract withdrawal was just to protect SM’s reputation.
SM is behind the promotions cancel indirectly.”
Where there’s smoke there’s fire, my friend. As we’ve said, this affair had SM’s greasy fingerprints ALL over it. There’s no doubt in my mind SM is trying to wear down the members, wear down the fans, make this shining possibility called JYJ look utterly hopeless. And no one in a position of authority, no one in a position to insist that justice be done will help — this is the shocker for me. It’s as if they are ALL colluding with SM. It reminds me of a film called “Outland” with Sean Connery. It’s the same theme. Everyone picks the side of the strong and corrupt because they’ll probably prevail. But guess what? They don’t. Neither did Goliath. He took a rock to the forehead and went down hard. Let’s pray for a similar miracle for JYJ. 🙂
@Lilibaiyu
Yes. I had a crazy idea before going to bed. lol what if fans organize a protest, with banners, in front of the right building. If they do, they have to be large in number. cameras of TV would catch that no ?
I don’t know. It would be cool to wear uniforms though lol. Okay. I better get some sleep now.
Well I just hope things are like those two are explaining. They really need to reach an agreement soon cause we all know Cjes is not the best at orginizing and managing the boy’s activities.
Anyways, the last thing we need is another closed door, so I hope everything gets sorted out quickly! I can’t wait to see Junsu climbing to the top like always! ❤
Another closed door? This door was already closed to the boys, C-jes was just trying to get it to open for Junsu but it seems Leon was merely playing with C-jes.
You go cjes!!!!!!!
Can some explain something to me about melon website. I have forgotten some info. How did they choice and how many melon fans get to attend the free showcase? Will everybody get to see the showcase via their computer? If yes, what do you need to do to
view it?
OMO! They are shocked! Poor thing!
Can you see now what happens when your naked butt is showing??? Crazy and shitty cowards….
The only thing you are getting with this is that JYJ fans become more stubborn and strong. The more they attack, obstruct or withdraw, the more we will support them in everything that can be done.
I sincerely hope individual and group successes of these brave boys who rejoice us with their wonderful voices.
prayers are answered….continue the fight~*
Onward men!!!
GUYS SIGN FOR THIS TO HELP JUNSU BEING RESPECTED BY leon http://twitition.com/952sw/. i don’t like when a talented singer like xia junsu have to receive power abuse like this n being pressure because of his singing wonderful. Let’s unite together to fight for tyrant company.
What I don’t understand is why C-Jes until now has not opened their own TV station. Why depend on others to do your work? With digital TV it is so easy to do that and not too expensive. there are so many private stations, some share air time. Others give a few hours to religious / gospel, Aljazeera/CNN/BBC. With all the promotion JYJ do for various companies, those companies can afford to pay something for advertisement on C-Jes TV station. Here we have one Korean Christian station which sells various items for home delivery. So there are many ways to make it pay for itself and very few staff are needed to run it. So why don’t they???
good idea
A music station like MTV ? that has Music performing shows and music related shows ? C-jes is not MTV not Mnet and other Music broadcast shows that track charts and propose awards and promote stars on local and satellite Television.
It’s not LOEN either, it doesn’t have government approving it’s use for telecom like LOEN ect ect
C-jes is not in charge of the music industry in south Korea. It’s just a small company and works with other artist not just JYJ. It can’t build a station.
TV station? Alone? Without any paperwork with SK government? Can?
It means it doesn’t have ability to promote JYJ on TV broadcast. Why It pay LOEN then if it can in the first place ?
local broadcast isn’t in c-jes hand.
@Klaus, I know. I just asked the girl up there, not you^^ and thanks for guiding us when this and that happen in these day.
No, not like Mnet and no big thing, just a private entertainment TV station to do what you are asking others to do now, i. e. promote their work, advertise their events, do talk shows, keep them visible,even sell their products. Well, they do have to apply for air frequency but with digital TV broadcasts, it is quite easy and normally purely entertainment programs have no problem obtaining a license. Well, I don’t know how the law is in SK, I am writing from East Africa and if here we have over 40 private TV stations I expect that in SK you have even more. You saw the FM radio in Japan where he was being interviewed for his concert, something like that but visual (TV)
I get it, sorry. Was just clarifying.
I smell SM again, and they stink. Hang in there, Junsu!
SM has contract with LOEN.
I think SM signed around the time Loen was supposed to Sign with C-jes . It’s just recently signed with SM
Indirect contract with SM, SK telecom is singed with SM, and LOEN is in charge of SK Telecom. So yeah, there is a connection there.
Nobody can put a good man down . . . That’s for sure!!! Whatever or whoever is behind LOEN will be ruined!! Jyj will still rule!!!
haiya. if only a written contract is done beforehand, it wouldn’t be you-said-this, i-said-that. but i can see how cjes is doing their best to defend junsu’s case. tho i wish they could’ve negotiate further beforehand. but maybe just like us, they are on edge when something like this happens. cuz it happens all the time.
i will stand by jyj whatever happens.
C-jes has e-mails, phone calls, text, c-jes recorded everything in case LOEN backstab them. and they threaten LOEN to go public.
Also LOEN just signed contract with SM just recently. During the time it’s supposed to have signed with C-jes.
SM seems to have solo artist ( a member from SNSD, SUJU, and I don’t know the rest but all are in solo artist now) now with LOEN instead of Junsu. SM is Attacking Junsu and LOEN helped SM for money, and when C-jes paid LOEN to do the promotions.
It’s a dirty game. C-jes had no choice but at least they recorded the verbal dealings.Also LOEN confessed to media it did have this agreement. So no one can say C-jes done a mistake.The word is out and confirmed. LOEN has obligation to promote since it’s using Junsu.
Please don’t blame C-jes, it had all odds against it before hand. LOEN and SM are in this together, I just discovered this info.
no, i understand that we can still use those as evidence. i’m not totally pulling the blame game. but this could have been done better. i guess because everything takes steps in progress, they have to had the verbal way. it’s just that i’m one of the few people who always, always makes sure to have a written contract in whatever agreements, and always read the papers and terms before signing.
i like cjes, and i’m on their side. i’m not blaming them for anything, but still disagree with some decisions. things could be handled in a different way, is all i’m saying.
I get you. I do agree with that. Sigh. C-jes wants that too, believe me. But there is a blacklist going on. No one if offering a signature to lift it up. especially SM partners.
SK Telecom under LOEN, is in contract with SM since April.
I hope everything gets fixed. Junsu has a lot on his plate right now and it’s really sad to see evil companies trying to block his promotions. They know xia will succeed and they are trying to give him a hard time. I pray that someday, sooner, jyj gets the equality they deserve. May cjes continue to stand their ground and be more careful when getting into agreements.
So I am thinking of ordering more copies of Junsu’s album from YesAsia. Even though Loen will get a portion of that money it will help Junsu, right?
I’m wondering about this myself. I don’t know what to do. Should I order a physical copy of the album to support Junsu? Should I only order it on I-tunes to boycott Loen? I was gonna do both, get it On i tunes to listen to and preorder it to have and hold in my hands. What would be most supportive of Junsu?
@Cheryl
That’s what I usually do too – buy it on iTunes immediately and then just look around for a good place to get the album…
🙂 I may even bite the bullet and go back to Yesasia this time. KPopMart (I think that was the name) was WAAAAY too slow last time…
@lilibaiyu
Do sales on iTunes count towards digital rankings like Instiz and Gaon Singles Chart? :O
@lilibaiyu, Cheryl
Yes, I do same like you. I always get in iTunes to listen first then look around to get the album fast as I can. Maybe this time I do the way you suggest Cheryl. We have many ways to support Junsu.
Others have commented elsewhere that artists get a much higher percentage on physical album sales. I also think I read Loen will get $ from all online sales including iTunes, but I don’t know this for sure. Can anyone enlighten me?
I’m also confused. It is said that Loen is a large distribution company, almost having the monopoly of mainstream albums distribution on SK, they usually take 70%-80% from the profit. I just can’t imagine how much profit Loen will gain from Junsu’s album sales while they do nothing on promoting him. It’s like a free money, it’s like a robbery. Everybody knows Junsu’s name alone speak enough for promotion and fandom will strongly support him by buying his album. Now it seems that everything depends on Loen’s decision. They should give their best, and the most logic explanation if they’ll going to continue this unfair treatment.
And we, fans, I think, we should have a plan B as to what would be the best things to do to support Junsu, but at the same time not to support Loen? Oh my God, this is frustrating!!!! It seems impossible for CJeS to deal with another distributor in this nick of time, like can we back to A&G Modes?
I guess it helps him more if I buy the CD? I just want to help him in whatever small way I can. I can send Loen my comments and petitions. I can send JYJ supportive comments. But why, why is there nothing else I can do? Why are they doing this to him? I can’t. I just can not stand this anymore. It’s so infuriating. Must they always raise our hopes just to crush them?
what is this? previously South Korean Broadcast stations abandoned him due to the power of SM , and now “Leon entertainment” / ? its sabotaj again? and CJes , get the contract fix !
sounds like Leon was hoping to get something more from Junsu or JYJ in general by stalling but c-jes knew where this is going so they made their move .
there’s a reason all the big companies don’t want Leon distributing their music anymore . ….damn ..whatever happened to good work ethics ? …why must people bully someone whenever they think they can ?
Wow Loen… I can’t believe they tried to pull this off, wtf. If everything is as C-JeS said, I hope they will sue Loen’s ass off, but from these 2 statements it sounds like they actually haven’t signed an official contract…? Nonetheless, C-JeS should still have a strong case if there were recorded agreements (e.g. emails) showing that Loen had promised certain things and failed to fulfill their obligations.
If Loen is not going to do the promotions, then I see no reason for them to get a cut of Junsu’s profit. I read somewhere that digital music sites like Loen’s Melon get ~80% of the digital sales profits. This is just free money for them if they’re not even going to promote the song.
What I don’t get is why Loen paid for the filming of the special teaser clip. I had considered whether this is a trap, that they lured Junsu and C-JeS into letting them distribute, only so they can cancel all distributions at the last minute with no time to find alternatives. But it seems like such a crazy thing to do. Of course Shitty Music (SM) may have had a hand in this, but it is widely known that SM and Loen are not on good terms. I really want to know what’s going on behind this – maybe at this rate we will find out through court documents.
Oops typo, cancel all promotions*, not distributions.
Good news guys @rubypurple_fan just tweeted that Cjes and Loen reached an agreement and apparently everything will go as planned!!!
^_________________________^
@JYJ_In Heaven
If it’s true…..Thank GOD.
Oh thank goodness. I hope things go smoothly from now on. *fingers crossed*
@JYJ-InHeaven
Thanks God! Finally our opinions impact Loen company now, we do the good job. I hope Junsu showcases go as the planned.
Please, Cjes need to carefully next time. NO MORE VERBARB CONTRACTS.
wow….a very good news!!
That’s good to hear, thanks for sharing the update!
BIG bear hugs..@Tiffany sis….^___^ we won… kekek!
*Hugs-a-bunch* It’s great, right?!
You do not mess with JYJ! ^_^
Yeah, the power of JYJ & XIA fans! Well done!!!
I am so happy now!
So basically, LEON was trying the bully tactic at the last moment (Time pressure) to corner Cjes /XIA into paying for everything instead of what was discussed.
After all, whatever Cjes needs to pay, it is coming out of our boys pocket!!!
My headache of all day when I read a earlier post mind you I read at least 100 emails before one so I am ok now just ready to ensure the boys do not have to go thru this again
while watching CNN i heard a nice statement,, i’ve been on hell but im strong enough to walk on hell with smile..
it means she’s been in the biggest problem in her life but she is strong enough to face that problems with smile..
keep smiling JYJ,,,
CJes hwiting
JYJ hwiting
Junsu Luv u, 100x hwiting
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