Hello.
This is CJeS representative Baek Changju.
Yesterday our dispute of business consultation with LOEN entertainment has been amicably resolved. Yesterday evening, LOEN executives met up with our representatives and in due course, we received the official position to move forward with all promotional marketing activities as well as the online and offline distribution of XIA (Junsu) 2nd album.
In the meantime, with many fans hoping that XIA (Junsu) showcase will be broadcasted live to the world via Melon TV, LOEN was able to keep their promise to their customers. As promotions for XIA (Junsu) 2nd album has normalized, we will be able to show a fair stage for people who love music.
The director and the media planning team would like to express our heartfelt gratitude for sending us a lot of public support with each of the issues raised.
We will repay with a variety of activities upon the release of XIA (Junsu) 2nd album and the Asia tour.
Source: CJes HP
Translated by: Ruby(@rubypurple_fan) of JYJ3
Shared by: JYJ3
yeaaa everything is fine now
WIN WIN!!!
Good! I look forward to buying the album physically and online. I hope everything else continues to run smoothly for Junsu.
but i hope they will take good care of their back. If LOEN can do this once, who knows if they can do it twice?
축아해요 Junsu, JYJ and Cjes
Good news^^ but remain vigilant
hey it actually worked out well for them for once
This 🙂
I’m glad ! Lol
hopefully it went down as Cjes & Junsu wanted and Leon didn’t get anything ” extra” .
at last 😀
Just a little late reminder.
Those who questioned CJes’s ability, please think about it, who would sign a contract with every single detail in there? Planning has to come after the contract is signed because appearance on TV include a lot of details that we may not know such as logistic, date, time slot and many more details, it is not possible for these to be in the contract.
Also, isn’t there a standard protocol for such agreements like appearance on TV, the distribution channels available under Loen whenever an agreement is signed with Loen?
Loen was claiming that there is no contract agreement then why did they distribute the teaser on their Youtube channel in the first place?
They are as good as keeping the goods (Incredible Album) in their storeroom and bringing out only when customers asked, that’s essentially robbing, isn’t it their responsibilities to put those good on “display” if they want a cut on the profit?
It is good that Loen is seeing the power of Xia’s fandom, I just hope they keep to their current promise and that this will open doors for other works of JYJ & other Korean Ent. Companies to accept JYJ and not a one-off dealing to shut us up.
Anyway, here’s a useful comment yesterday from another blog that we all fans of JYJ need to know for our arguments against anti :
“I’m gonna go ahead & comment ride. This is common knowledge to people in Korea but international fans (like myself) have to go out of their way to look this shit up.
SM Entertainment is on good terms with SK Telecom. Many SM fans already know that this year, Yoona, Kyuhyun, Minho, & Sulli just made a CF for the company.
1 – SK Telecom owns MelOn.
http://www.sktelecom.com/eng/html/service/WirelessInternet/Music.html
2 – In December 2011, LOEN Entertainment announced that SK Planet (a subsidiary of SK Telecom) bought 4.09% of their company’s stock. There are two other subsidiaries of SK Telecom that already have a stake in LOEN, & collectively SK Telecom owns 67.59% of LOEN. http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/016170.KQ/key-developments/article/2455355 You can also go to LOEN’s official website & see the graph there. http://www.iloen.com/
Short version: SM & SK Telecom have a business relationship. SK Telecom owns more than half of LOEN. LOEN is fucking up Junsu’s promotions.
This is why everyone is up in arms over this bs over Junsu’s album.”
Thanks, Alexandra
thank you for the information, its important to know!
“It is good that Loen is seeing the power of Xia’s fandom, I just hope they keep to their current promise and that this will open doors for other works of JYJ & other Korean Ent. Companies to accept JYJ and not a one-off dealing to shut us up.”
This is why i said what i said yesterday. It isn’t a secret that jyj’s fandom is big, that doesn’t stop these kind of things nearly as much as a loss in profits or a legal contract does. Leon were being ass clowns, I have a problem with cjes, not knowing about that or ignoring that fact at the expense of their artist junsu’s well being. We were left with hoping Leon “keeps their promise”, and not “fulfill their contract” which is a more stable place to be. Its the reactionary and self inflicted clean ups that I have a problem with. I keep my frying pan ready to go to bat for JYJ whenever necessary, but its the avoidable pains that I feel worse about being inflicted on then. i have no issue with cjes going public, that is what I would want them to do when the ass clowns show themselves for what they are, point them out and we will join the fight.
At the end of the day its jyj that i care about and I will support any way i can, and try to find new ways to do so. I’m glad this was resolved. I just felt really angry for junsu, but if anyone can bounce back, its him.
@jaeftw
I don’t know how others felt about it here, but when C-jes issued their press release early yesterday outlining the problem, the way I took it was that they were in a real bind and were appealing to the fans for help. Of course they didn’t come right out and say it, but that was my distinct impression – they needed PRESSURE to be exerted on Loen and JYJ fans certainly know all about how to do that by now. lol I was vastly heartened, I must say, to see this fandom stop the in-fighting and band together as one to protest this latest ugly scenario in the long and difficult saga of JYJ and its members. Through our JYJ Facebook page, we even reached out to Cassies to contact SM to say to them “Enough is enough! STOP interfering with the careers of JYJ!” Even I was surprised to see how quickly Loen was able to “see the light” and do the right thing. 🙂
Let’s hope that when Junsu returns from France he has a smooth and yet exciting path straight to the top of the charts with “Incredible.”
Cheers!
Hi fine SIS@Lili….we doing awesome this time ^_______^
@anva1
Indeed we did, Anva – indeed we did. **big smiles and hugs**
Oh, this clears things up pretty well, isn’t it. I suspected we just had to look for some kind of around-way connections. Thanks for sharing this info.
Very, very thankful! Crying tears of relief. Hoping for smooth going from here on out. Hoping this might even break the back of the broadcast blackout for JYJ. Maybe the boys will be encouraged to make a JYJ album. Looking forward to watching the broadcast though I suspect it will be morning where I am in Kansas City. Thanks to all the fans who stayed strong and supported Junsu and got Loen’s attention.
be vigilant to Leon there is a hidden move for sure..
do it heartily Leon or else you will received thousands of negative reactions in your account..haha
Great! This is good news especially for poor fans so applied for the showcase thru melon. Hwaiting!! Cjes… *gives pat on shoulder*
Oh thank goodness!! I hope there will be no more dispute..Junsu and the boys can now relax and enjoy the rest of their trip in France.
tnx CJes for standing up and fighting for JYJ 🙂 even if this case is over, nothing is quite resolved until we get to see JYJ being treated fairly and be gven opportunity to promote publicly…. let us not put our guards down yet, we, together with JYJ and CJes must put more effort in voicing our demands…. we can make things happen if we are united
Such a great relief to hear this news today! Always Keep The Faith , our sisters! God will lead the way! Fighting. Now we look forward to our duckbutt’s amazing album release and showcase!
Finally some good news!
Now to give credit where it is due, none of this would have happened if CJES was not quick enough to smell BS and call LOEN on it right away.
Most of all, CJES should thank JYJ fans from all over the world for momentarily setting aside their differences and being united in giving LOEN a piece of their minds.
I hope no more bad news for Junsu’s comeback, only good news starting with his dominance of advanced ticket sales at Interpark 😉
JYJ can breathe a little and enjoy their time in France now ! thank you cjes for your hardwork !!!!!
THANK GOD.
Still confused as to why they didn’t sign a contract in the first place….. A really amateur move by them. With how many times they’ve been screwed over, you think by now they would be pros at drawing up a contract.
…and I’m still waiting for the video staring jaejoong…..
Well. Not defending Cjes here but do you actually think that Loen would be kind enough to sign a contract if they were really planning on screwing at the first place? I believe that months of email exchanges and meetings would be enough to substantiate the transaction in the court of law or even the fair trade union. It’s only the amount of resources and manpower Cjes is willing to delegate to fight it out with Loen… which will inadvertently affect all activities yet again. Both would be at a loss, but Cjes really did well this time considering the fact that it is Loen they are up against.
From another perspective, Cjes probably jumped at the chance to work with that company without giving much thoughts to any BS that might arise. Since this would be the first time in history that some big ass company from SK is willing to open discussions for promoting anyone from JYJ.
Peace.
Agreed with you jyjxoxo.
I guess, time is the essence here, negotiation for such deals, with every trivial issues need to be ironed out, before you can sign on the dotted line.
For LEON to send their representative to discuss with Cjes and yet the representative are not able to make business decision, it is a really waste of time. & finally using executive decision to corner Cjes, since the representative has no “right” to represent LEON!
OK but I will keep watching as no company is to big that the ground cannot shift up under it…….Its the ants that move the dirt that they should be worried about…. from one ant to all the others.
I like your analogy.
like it
@greyfox
A woman after my own heart. A deep bow to you. Thank you. Ant~BAF reporting for duty. Sir! 😉
Well done Cjes!
Hopefully, this will pave the way, if not better for JYJ album!
LOL. I’m buying three of your albums, Junsu, to celebrate this day. I feel like C-Jes called for his army, aka JYJers, and JYJers came with their frying pans and saved the day. LOL.
LOL so you still keep the frying pan? good move sis,,, 🙂
YEAH, yes our pray have hear by God.. Thank you and happy fasting
good, if that’s the case. however, i don’t trust LOEN now so CJeS still needs to be vigilant and extra, extra cautious because who knows if LOEN would pull another trick until the very last minute. CJeS has to make sure that if ever LOEN does, they at least have rights to Junsu’s materials. we can’t have these guys hindering JYJ again.
so all’s well that ends well? i will just wait and see if it goes as planned, then know how to take it. lets’ hope it is all ok now for junsu! and the fans. and cjes~
Thanks god it’s finally resolved in a positive way. I hope no more shit like this coming.
hoping for the best because JYJ is the best! they survived the hard path of their career and we as a fans will always be with them, supporting them….for SM please stop this stupid thing. “Aren’t u making enough money to stuff ur own belly?”
JYJ, me and the others will always be with u guys. ALWAYS. Wishing all of u the very best and may god bless u guys all the way long.
Lurve from MALAYSIA 🙂
Well done cjes
This news got attention, i heard that leon stock allsodropped, i really cant believe that some r saying that cjes shouldnt make everything in a drama and solved behind drama.and these people clame to be jyj fans
I really dont thing that it would sold if cjes wouldnt take this thing to the media
Behind doors
@nina
And adding to this…bringing issues to the Court of Public Opinion never hurts. Public voices, once they are raised, can make a huge noise. The louder the noise, the more people are inclined to pay attention.
Yeah, I’m also pretty skeptic that LOEN would proceed with their promised promotion activities and won’t back off if C-Jes didn’t raise that noise before it became too late. Maybe after receiving so many mistreatments during previous years C-Jes decided to strike in advance this time, and it really seems they did the right thing.
I am so happy everything wad worked out! I just going to wait and see what happens.
What do I have to do to be able to watch junsu showcase on melon?
I dont trust Loen now. They might still be up to dirty tricks. Gonna wait and see how things go the next few weeks//months for Junsu.
@Flower, according to @rubypurple_fan twitter, XIA Junsu showcase will both be streamed via Loen TV and Melon TV. I-can watch via Loen TV since this should be on Youtube.
Things happen for a reason, I hope this reason was to show SM and the South Korean entertainment industry that they can try and ignore, block or hurt JYJ but the worldwide fans are NOT going to just let them get away with it!
The fans were AMAZING, one voice crying out for justice! Maybe this will open some government and industry eyes, because as much as JYJ love their world wide fans it has got to hurt them not to be able to be fairly treated in their homeland.
KEEP FIGHTING JYJ WE GOT YOUR BACK!!
YAY!!! CONGRATULATIONS JUNSU!!! So happy that everything turn good… Thanks CJes for taking good care of our Junsu… 💕💕💕
thanks God … wish all the best to Junsu and Cjes … hope everything goes as planed
Well loen..plz dont mess with jyj again…they have fans all around the world who would back them up…anything happens to them will be reported all around…and that would bring a bad rep for loen doesnt it? Im gonna keep my eyes open on loen…its great that the matter is resolved…i would like to thank cjes too for their fast decision…they might not be perfect but they manage to protect the boys their own way…guess maybe we should cut them some slacks huh?
ahaha, this happy news made me confused a little.
was it the result of our outbreak?
or was our outbreak unnecessary after all?
was loen really did decided to bail out or was it a misunderstanding?
but then again, it really doesn’t matter anymore since the issue is resolved.
all we need to do is to stick to our jyj.
if anything like this happens again, i will still do the same and still be outraged.
i feel grateful that cjes managed to resolve this with loen in the end.
It’s a combination of CJES’s fighting back, as well as the unanimous support shown by fans. Junsu and JYJ are now one step closer to breaking down the huge wall in front of them, and if fans will be united and stand together with them, we might finally see the light of day.
Oh did you order the album already? In the end i bought 3 :p
yes. the keyword here is to stay united, and stop pointing fingers among ourselves.
ehe i bought 2. maybe will buy another one.
I feel relieved
Well, not surprising tbh. The comments on youtube are brutal. And their stock decrease significantly, so lol.
oh thanks god!!! I’m so so so happy for junsu ^____^
This is what the power of collectively raised voices can do. I’m so happy for Junsu right now. The obvious attempt to shaft him, will not go unnoticed or forgotten. Staying vigilant is more important than ever. My guess is, these folks thought that JYJ fans being in somewhat disarray, were easy pickings to be blindsided. They guessed wrong.
I’m going to do some shameless promotion here, so please bear with me, and know that my heart beats strongly about this.
When voices are needed to sound alarm, and at the same time make themselves heard and understood, the more voices, the more impact. This is why I am reiterating why the petition to CJeS is so very important. Every attempt was made to provide language in the petition that was conciliatory and respectful. No place in this document will you see language that is angry, demanding, or whiny. If you do find it, please point it out. No one is perfect, but if the authors missed being careful, they are not afraid to hear about it.
What you do see, is a plea, a request, to CJeS, to take the international fans of JYJ seriously for the following reasons. The international fans as described in the petition, are those outside the sphere of South Korea and Japan. These fans come from all four corners of the globe. You know who you are. You know why you’re fans of JYJ. You love them, you love their talents, you respect them, you support them.
From where you sit, you are fans at a distance, but you care the same as those who are closer in distance to the members of JYJ. Most international fans have to engage with JYJ via the internet, it’s just that simple. Yes, there are the magazines, the books, the cds/DVDs, fan meets in Asian countries, and the occasional concerts. But the day-to-day exposure is online. And many of us have supported by buying merchandise and tickets. We do it gladly because we care.
But one thing should be very apparent with this latest episode, collective voices can be heard, no matter where they come from. Thanks were given from CJeS for the public support of the fans. Who knows how many Tweeted or emailed LOEN and voiced their displeasure? It was obviously enough to let them know they made a mistake, a huge mistake. If CJeS needs any other message this situation provides it. The international JYJ fan voice is huge.
Right now there are less than 7,000 signatures. I had visions of 10,000 or more. I know, silly me. One of my favorite songs in the world is “The Impossible Dream”, from The Man of La Mancha. Check out the lyrics sometime. Developing a working relationship with the fandom is a win-win for all concerned. Letting CJeS know that the international fandom is committed to being there for JYJ, and that our voices will continue to shout out for them, is just as important now as it ever was. It’s not just about membership. As I stated in another section, who knows, it could be a governmental hindrance.
But having the names down on paper, saying where you come from, from all over the globe, is a personal way of connecting and saying…I am a JYJ fan, and this is where I come from. When you need my voice, it is ready to be heard, just sound the call.
Thank you my fellow JYJ Family members for being patient. If you haven’t already signed the petition, I hope you take the time to revisit it, and change your minds.
PEACE
I’m glad this has been settled. Losing money is a good way to get what you want. Oh and Its not just SM who are blocking jyj. The other companies are as well. They also don’t want jyj to do well. If it was only SM and the other companies did not care jyj would be in a different position right now. It is just not as in your face as the SM blockings are. SM wants you to know when it does something, the others are more discrete.
I’m happy junsu wont have album shortages. They can produce more physical albums through Leon. Everyone please buy a physical copy of the album if you can. The artist gets more money off of the royalties.
This time I have credit for CJes, with use all the little the move like emails, letters, warning, medias to keep more steps with the big Credit for JYJfamily fans everywhere together to final make the deal and became the big step for not only Junsu but for JYJ either ^___^
Thanks for all help, still have carefully, we all know the evil still behind the door.
CJeS played hard ball, and they really succeeded in appealing to the “court of public opinion”. Who cares about applying to the courts for a mandatory injunction to order LOEN to honour their agreement, generating a negative public opinion is way faster and equally as effective. I think it’s time to give CJeS (and obviously their lawyers) credit when it’s due.
@gwen,
I just sudden want to laugh at CJes and myself included ( my Job)LOL … we are all “thick skin”.. take a hard way. With all the point right and left .. but last least we got the deals… business some time they are not always step by step, you know ^_________^ just the end what result you will get!
What wonderful news! I’m so very happy to hear. ^^ Congratulations CJeS!
Thank God everything was settled at least that’s what I hope
RT @LOEN_MUSIC: To fans of XIA(Junsu). Sorry for being silent for a while. As you may already know, LOEN MUSIC will continue promotional ma…Tweeted!
RT @LOEN_MUSIC: (contd.) as we did for his ’11am’ release. The showcase on 15th will be livestreamed via LOEN MUSIC YouTube/Ustream and Mel…Tweeted!
Soooooooooo, how’s all that red pepper tasting now? Did it help clear up your sinus passages so you can breathe easier? Hmmmmmm.
The power of grassroots organizing!!!
@BAF
I Just feel so good today ^____________________^
really meaningful result 🙂
@BAF
OK, Loen “Executive Team” (dontcha love that? I wonder how many of them it takes to screw in a lightbulb?)
What have we learned from this painful growing experience? It’s simple, really: Don’t f*ck with JYJ, don’t f*ck with any of the members of JYJ. If ya do, you’ll have to hear from US again.
🙂
Have a blessed day!~
It was rough going there for a while!!!! YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
And, as a minor note, @LOEN_MUSIC just tweeted notes to all of us!!!
I know, I just got all three of mine. 😀
I want JYJ on Running Man !
Words cannot express how proud I am of the show of support for Junsu, my heart is very touched by all the support. I was at a lost for words to express my hurt yesterday. I just want to hug everyone who came out and said “Hell No, We Will Not Take This Anymore” so proud, Hugs to everyone. Listening to 11am as I am writing this, with tears flowing.
hey guys why can’t we tell the Interpol (ICPO) about the things that happens to jyj
maybe they will help cjes Entertainment and jyj and maybe they (jyj) will
appear on TV channels am not joking am only giving u my opinion
I was thinking of some influential US celeb, after all, aren’t they the ones that got Gangnam Style out there? When JYJ is out there, who cares about the local appearance in tiny S. Korea (in comparison to the world). Some celebrities such as Demi Lovato is well-known spokesperson against bullies, maybe if enough of us tweet her? And she is good friends with many young celeb such as Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus who in turn are related to other big names such as Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, Dolly Parton, Liam Hemsworth and so on. Remember Gangnam Style was mentioned by Obama & some Prime Ministers of other countries.
Imagine this become raises global attentions? I guess S. Korean needs a good explanation to the world for the discrimination against JYJ, not just the fandom world but the whole world. And probably SM would come begging JYJ to go on their TV? All of us can have the last laugh together with JYJ.
@Alexandra
The thinking as I understand it is that NO S.Korean would think kindly of JYJ for embarrassing their whole country and damaging its reputation and prestige before the world by outing a significant portion of the entertainment community and SM in particular as a state endorsed and protected criminal enterprise even though that is exactly what it is and a large number of S.Koreans know it. Korean national pride runs very very deep – in fact I would venture a guess that JYJ themselves would be horrified by their own fans calling worldwide attention to the widespread corruption in the SK music business and the fact that no one can seem to do a thing about it. I think the backlash of such a move back home in Korea would be huge. I think first and foremost we have to open a dialog with C-jes and then get the information from them how the members feel about things like this. The LAST thing I want to do is to do something which we then find out is very much NOT what the guys want.
I feel the same, Lili. Totally agree with you
Thank you for this alert, apology for my ignorant about the S. Korean culture.
@Alexandra
Ignorance – oh no, not at all. It takes real doing to get beyond the huge cultural disconnect that is only natural between S. Koreans and I-fans like you and me. What we would do in the west and for instance in the U.S. is vastly different than how Koreans would behave. I also failed to comprehend how this level of corruption could go on for 20 years or more when I first started researching JYJ’s predicament. I was so puzzled as to why nobody was even mentioning what SM was doing to these three young men directly there let alone publicising it and mounting massive protests. It took a while but I finally got it. It’s DIFFERENT there. Their thousand year old civilization has evolved differently than say, an Americans’ 200+ year old one. Our country was almost literally founded on protest against what is wrong. Koreans have lived stoically with terrible wrongdoing with no recourse for many centuries. I’m not saying times haven’t changed there but traditional attitudes which may still deeply be present unconsciously take longer to evolve.
Interpol is national security we think it is national security but it will not fall into their realm of possibilities.
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@Kalus
I’m really sorry. I tried and tried and TRIED but i can’t register. Melon doesn’t get me and I don’t get Melon. We don’t communicate. All the reasons why are encoded in little square boxes that I of course can’t decipher. Really – sorry.
@Lilibaiyu, maybe this will help clarify registration ?
http://vimeo.com/69735703 or this http://jyjsoul.com/post/40558549347/tutorial-how-to-register-at-melon-and-rate-like-and
Log-in , then go to http://www.melon.com/cds/musicstory/ontv/web/ontv_listVote.htm?classKey=SCHM
and vote. the vote is easy. and so is registration.
With the help of xiahpress’ s tutorial and Google Translate I was able to get two IDs set up on Melon and vote 3 times with each of them. It took me awhile to figure out it didn’t like numbers in your ID name. It also wants email addresses from gmail or services like that. You can vote 3 times every day.
Me too. There must be an easier way to vote. The more convenient, the easier fans can vote.
When you write your ID , do not use capital letters. Just small letters only.
you must remember your ID and Password to log in.
after log-in go to the link to vote. Its easy. Try again.
This place should be a school…..a wealth of knowledge can be learned just by reading these comments
I grow smarter everytime I log on 🙂
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Thank you Brainiacs of JYJ fandom….my dendrites love you!!
@pinky lee
My plan is to take your comment VERY personally.
🙂
Hope you do…but always in a good way….you know I Stan for Lil 🙂
@pinky lee
Oh, I STAN for you too. And btw, your new profile picture is the sexiest photo yet of Kim Jaejoong! 😀
Lol….exclusive~*
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I want to thank the time to personally thank all of you for acting so quickly on behalf of JYJ and Cjes and for motivating not just me but hundreds if not thousands of people to take the “fight” directly to LOEN. All of us benefit when the fandom works as one for a just cause. I know that when I am watching the showcase it will be in part because of you guys. Thank you.
@superfangirl
Awwwwwwwwwwww….. **puddling up big time over here**
xxoo
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