[TRANS] BABY SKY ~ listening to it again after a long time wow~ it’s nice..
Note: for those who may not know, Kiss The Baby Sky (released in 2009) was written and composed by JYJ Park Yoochun.
Source: @bornfreeonekiss
Translated by: pvtse of JYJ3
Shared by: JYJ3
I just checked the original version for the first time, thought it’s time to check…
Kiss the baby sky? :O
Or not…
it seems so ❤
XD
Of course it’s NICE, it’s your Soulmate song, isn’t it?
wonder if your singing it right now with the composer 🙂
Thats a stupid question from a stupid person.
@erinajung
maybe today JJ listen Yoochun’s song. and maybe tomorrow he will listen Junsu’s song.
we don’t know, JJ’s fell today, right?
so don’t think about JJ just want listen Yoochun’s song and won’t listen Junsu’s song.
peace.. 🙂
What are you smoking ha? but I don’t have time to deal with nonsense, I got better thing to do …voting hard for my Jaejoong…
@kris
hahaha!!! i suck sis, haven’t done my homework right. how could i miss this song and just hear it first right at this post. Jaejong~ahh., . mianhe and gomayo. in JYJ, Jae is my bias but back TVXQ days, my bias is (not past tense) Secret Code. i enjoy watching/listening to this concert, i like each one of them here and i do get back to it from time to time. fell with no return with Jae, love chunnie’s long hair & miss his messy cool sexy look., junsu’s very childlike smiles yet shining perf, changmin’s fair share and u-know who looks like my son.
now that i listened to it live Secret Code version, Kiss the Baby Sky, a beautiful song indeed (like it more than Kiss Shita Mama Sayonara. Chunnie has gift composing, he should do more and come up with his own album and OFC, contributions for JYJ album.
the thing of the past can never be forgotten, only the shades of emotions vary as time pass. it’s a fact DBSK can never be together again as a singing group, like a broken glass, impossible to mend. but someday (who knows) they can sing together, only their hearts will allow this to happen. JYJ is in journey, i’m going with them and wish them goodness together. for old time sake, let’s enjoy the music! 🙂
Amen sister…
let’s enjoy the music, fans from different fandoms can co-exist peacefully…
white lies and picture of you ia composed by junsu.
Kiss The Baby Sky is not Soulmate’s…its was written by Yoochun n Yoowhan (his bro)…
She said that it was said by Jaejoong soulmate, Yoochun, and not that it was write by soulmates ^^
Jae oppa, now I’m watching/listening BABY SKY … I agree it’s good and beautiful song.
Keeps me calm. So sweet and cute both of you …… Sweet memories too ^^^^
ig what jaejoong mean Kiss the baby sky, urghhh this is yoochun self composed song but he dont even have the right for this songs, just like JJ self composed songs wasurenaide..i’m forever butthurt..
“if
JJ seems happy to listen to it! let’s be happy too! ^____^
i’m happy but somehow…..
there is a reason why among all dbsk songs Jaejoong just keep mentioning “wasurenaide” if there is a question “what his favorit songs” and now Kiss the baby sky..this is his best friends work..urgh i’m happy but i’m also butthurt
y do u need to butthurt…its not like JJ sing that song openly or put it in his personal album…n there’s nothing wrong of JJ mentioningthis self written song as his favourite song…what’s wrong was that someone else has taken “wasurenaide” as their song without JJ’s permission…that is what u should have ur butt to hurt for….
Jaejoong is talking about Kiss The Baby Sky right? :0) :0) :0)
BABY SKY is a beautiful song! especially because it was fully written/composed by Micky~ and the PV is very cute too with them smiling and jumping ♥
Yoochun should get the rights back from SM and AVEX since he fully written and composed that song.. I hope Chunnie can composed many more beautiful songs in the upcoming album .. JJ is really impressed with his Soulmate’s works ^__^
Reading comprehension 0%
LOL @haifa48refugee i feel the emotional desperation to insist that it’s an OT5 song.. and no one is denying it.. my point is .. my bias made that .. LOLL if you’ll gonna troll at least read comments first LMAO
@haifa48refugee uhmm i posted a comment.. and i dont know you.. you made a comment under it.. so am just replying to what you just throw me.. but hey no hard feelings.. i have few OT5 friends so am not an anti.. I missed Yoochun .. so more than focusing on just one line of the lyrics.. I’d rather comment on what i want from my bias.. and am not meddling with all the other AKTF comments.. to each is their own..
@haifa48refugee and you guys are implying that he listened to it because he is all AKTF emoshinki thingy.. LOLLL isn’t that the worse of an assumption ? Cant he just listen to a song that he likes reminisce the past.. while i make my own comments of how i love that song because Yoochun made it.. sheesh louise..
I think I told you before that you are my favorite JYJ fan, let’s enjoy beautifull morning & listen to YC song more…
@jenknight18
I agree with you. This is a wonderful song, it’s vintage Chunnie and he deserves to have it back. Perhaps at some point it will become available to be bought. If SM falls, as they righteously deserve to do, they will try to hedge the inevitable by selling part or all of their publishing catalog. It’s happened before countless time, it’s not out of the range of the possible that Yuchun could one day buy his songs written during that era back again if he really wanted to.
“vintage Chunnie”, (≧∇≦) ~ that’s a good one!!
Baby Sky was done under AVEX, not SM. If I’m not mistaken, Yoochun has considerable copyrights to this song. I remember it being quoted as one of his contributable financial assets as it was used as a theme song for a Japanese program.
But I’ve said all along, I would be preferable for them to get their copyrights for all their work, no matter who it is under. But this is an unfortunate side-effect of an arbitration settlement as opposed to an outright court decision. Null and void contract, never legally existed, catalog up for grabs.
I think you’re right about the copyright. From what I recall, he was very surprised at the size of the royalty cheque he received for this song. I believe that this was one of the factors that prompted the split from SM. It showed just how badly they were being cheated.
@Eliza
The cesspool known as SME is always going to be one of those unbelievable fairy tales. Company promises wonders, fame, fortune, glamour, only to snag your behind on some fly paper. Once you are stuck on it, you’re pretty much screwed. But if you have the strength and the fortitude to get yourself off of it, do it! Don’t hesitate, don’t stop, keep going!
For all that the guys have to endure, it is still better than being stuck on that fly paper at SME. But everything is a lesson to be learned. They now know what not to do ever again! I hate like the Dickens that they won’t be able to get those copyrights and royalties, but at least what they do for themselves now, will be theirs for the rest of their lives. And as Martha Stewart says, “That’s a good thing,” Hello to you my JYJ3 sister. Nice to see you. 😉
@BAF2
Nice to be seen 🙂 I’ve been keeping an eye on things (especially that bright, shining, sun-hot boy burning down Seoul at the moment) but decided to step away from the Sturm und Drang for awhile.
Since this seems to be the post for rampant speculation, how’s this one — part of the settlement was the return of the copyrights. It would make sense that’s why Jj’s nudging us toward a JYJ written song. We may not know for sure until the next JYJ concert when they finally do a version of “Shelter” arranged for three voice, (I know you’re lurking out there, Jaejoong, sweetie. 😉 Hint, hint. ) but that would be the final and, in my opinion, the ultimate victory in this long struggle.
In Japan it was used as the signature tune for the weather forecast program
@Eliza
Now that’s speculation I could wrap myself around. I will keep a good thought on that one. Not going to ask what your sources are, but this would make my day! It would make sense that the legal team would accept the arbitration settlement on those grounds. Because they literally had SM by the short hairs. SM was drowning in dropping stock prices, and wanted to get out of this stranglehold. Yes, that would be the ultimate icing on the cake! It was all that I was hoping for to be honest.
And yes, the baby is doing his thing! All that talent walked out the door and there wasn’t anything SM could do to stop it. You take care and we’ll see you when we see you. PEACE!
@anna -liza p.m.
Thank you for that information. I couldn’t remember what program was mentioned. 🙂
Yes it is a good song but I stopped listening to anything by DBSK and TVSQ due to SM will benefit. I choose to support JYJ all the way.
Jaejoong listened to that song this morning means he gave SM benefits?
As those are his vocals he can. He probably has copies laying around that was then this is now he can pop in a cd we just refuse to listen promote it let the child express himself without all the controversy. Soon he will stop tweeting then what would happen.
It don’t benefit SM if you don’t listen/watch on the right channels
This is how I’m able to watch Shinee videos. But I still feel guilty when I do it. Like I shouldn’t enjoy anything SM puts out even on the wrong channels.
To be honest i dont think listening to the song from an old CD you bought even before the conflict start will provide any benefit to SM unless you are new fans.
Precisely! Or downloaded it from YT and SME doesn’t get anything for it, since the guys didn’t either. 😉
I wish I could like that xD
Of course he is… chunnie is a great composer…
unfortunately even if he has the right, they won’t sing it because of the lyrics (I think).
nope, not bcs they won’t but bcs they can’t, avex will sue Jaesu and the one who actually composed this songs..ironic
Actually, Tabby is, she had another intention….Tabby, thank you! I hope the admins will delete all the posts!
Are these people don’t have a site for their own circle, why do they have to troll JYJ3 …. so desperate!
What is there to butthurt about? You guys are the ones coming here for attention.
besides… his brother composed the rap of the song!
If you are commenting here to troll, you don’t respect JYJ’s present as a group and that you haven’t learned to accept JYJ members’ choices and struggles these 4 years to move on and to be their own entities
Love your comment. SMH at the trolls.
Funny, seeing that you’re on a spamming spree and started this “let’s troll”; shows me your immaturity and inability to move on and still get stuck up on the past.
I’ve been around in this fandom for a quite long time–pre JYJ era–, and seeing your behavior to try and impose your belief and speak for Jaejoong shows to me that you don’t know the correct definition of “respect”
sorry, but do you know his real feelings? or are you implying about them? because thats what i’ve been reading in here, he just wrote about the song being good, that is a fact, what he feels about it or why he listened to it, are all ideas of the writers
are you Jaejoong’s best friend? how do you know how he feels? So he said the song is nice I have to believe he loveeeessss his ex members soooo much he can’t get over it? Then why isn’t he in SM with your oppas btw? He chose to stay with JYJ and that speaks volume. Use your brain.
well dont worry, just dont then if u decided not too,
one goes, many will come and replace ur place.
so no worries. better leave now rather than wait ur love as his fans increase, right?
Haiz…people Don’t live in past….Gone were those days. Cant a guy enjoy a song which is no surprised cuz his soulmate conposed it!!
I dont know what you are trying to do.. but this kind of behavior is the reason why JYJ fans are getting turned off with *SOME* OT5s .. if you had just post your comment and feels about the past no one would make a fuss about it.. look at the others on top.. they are perfectly fine there.. and we appreciate that they remember as long as no one is forcing a comeback since it’s crazy to ask knowing the SM thingy.. but acting like what you are doing now.. gives people reason to feel off and offended.. not a good thing .. and very unnecessary..
missing something is not wrong ok
Becouse this song Yoochun make for OST Zoom in japan morning program..the theme song is Morning and of course this song really fit to hear it in the morning when you wake up right..coz can bright your mood in the morning..^^
Maybe that’s why Jaejoongie listened the song this morning.. 😀
I’m pretty sure later all these comments will be gone. Hopefully~
hi sorry.. uhmm but no one is denying the past.. what did we do to deny it.. ? putting JYJ Yoochun? isnt it what his current membership is? most new fans know him that way.. it’ll be odd to put it TXQ Yoochun.. since he is not there anymore.. i just dont get where all the “dont respect the past” is coming from *scratches head*
I think listening to Kiss the Baby Sky does not necessarily mean supporting SM. For me it’s just appreciating this beautiful music which was created by someone I deeply admire. It may be owned by someone else now just because of some crappy copyright issue but it came from the heart and mind of the composer. It’s Yoochun’s song and it’s beautiful.
I dont know what some people up there are trying to do.. but this kind of behavior is the reason why JYJ fans are getting turned off with *SOME* OT5s .. if you had just post your comment and feels about the past no one would make a fuss about it.. look at the others on top.. they are perfectly fine there.. and we appreciate that they remember as long as no one is forcing a comeback since it’s crazy to ask knowing the SM thingy.. but acting like what they are doing now (proving stuffs whatever, assumptions and all).. gives people reason to feel off and offended.. not a good thing .. and very unnecessary.. if they want to go emoshinki .. then go to an OT5 site.. hug each other.. reminisce together and be happy.. we here gonna go gooeey with the way we want.. isnt it the fair thing to do? so the trolling is a childish thing specially if intended not for fun but to hurt people or defend a point (makes it only sound desperate and insecure) .. Yoochun is troll king but all for the spirit of fun not like this.. so yeah.. mad props to the trollers but dont drag Yoochun,, he is nothing like any of those childish people..
everyone is happy.. let’s be happy for JJ ^^
i want to be happy for him.. but the behavior a while ago.. i feel sorry for him sometimes that he has to deal with childishness of people… but well he’s a strong person and he knows what he wants and has no inhibitions.. so whatever he wants to do.. i hope people find the maturity to move on and be happy just as he is..
That’s what i thought when i saw this post, *SOME* ot5 will try to create a saga out of this.
Very well put my dear…I agree 101 %
Hi @Jen…Hug sis
I’m late again… let me guess ..the same old story again, right O_O ?
cant e just listen to a sing without all people starting an argument? is just a song… a very good one, and thefact that holds many memories for him, make it even better for him to listen, maybe he is embrasing his past and moving on, like all of you should do, dbsk as 5 doesnt exist anymore, get over it already, hold the memory, enjoy their songs, but stop inventing situations and emotions that he hasnt said.
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agree. let him enjoy the song. ^___^
YES!!! Exactly
Agree,. Let’s just hear this amazing song.. that for him might have beautiful memories..to remember. ♥
well said .. LIKEY 🙂
og wow immature much, what wrong with this fandom?
ot5 i’m asking you if you want to emosinki right now please go to ot5 site, this jyj site and for jyj fans only, since the first time both have different view and opinion so its better if you (ot5) got to your place and stop act like immature child here.
Really, Ot5 seem to be so frustrated. Making so much fuss because JJ is listening to a song that he sang in the past. His voice and his talent was there, in that song, a song composed by Yoochun. Chun’s and Junsu’s skills were there too. And now, they don’t have even the right to listen to it, because some childish ot5 are overreacting, while that mediocre duo has the unmoral right, yet a legal one, to sing it whenever they wish with just their low vocal abilities. Why don’t you make this fuss when JJ said not to live in the past or when YC stated JYJ Forever….or when JJ said he’s sad many people still see him as Youngwoong Jaejoong? Please, be reasonable. And if you insist to live in the past, well, stay there with your delusions and don’t come here. Or did you, Ot5ers, are so few now that you don’t even have a fansite or any other place to spazz ?
Sorry, admins, if my reply is too rough…delete it pls if so.
I respect your opinions, and I kwow your kind of despesration. But I don’t like the way you spoke of “that mediocre duo has the unmoral right, yet a legal one, to sing it whenever they wish with just their low vocal abilities”. First thing first, if their abilities are that bad as you said, how in the world the five members (including JYJ), get recognized for their talent, and I mean everyone of them. And secondly, theydon’t even sing it. They
-contd- may have the rights to do so, but they don’t. Tell me when you see the duo performing BABY SKY. I’ll apologise for my comment lol
@Shinraei
Yes, I agree with you. I don’t see Homin attempting to sing “Baby Sky” anytime soon. They are not even vaguely connected with it. Still, it’s a shame that Jae and Yuchun are barred from singing it. It’s a great song and it deserves to be heard and of course performed by those who created it. JYJ could do a GREAT version of it.
They did sing other old songs… And for that matter, Kiss the baby sky is a tough song to sing.. Just saying…
@shadow
yes it is a tough song to sing so tough even Yoochun had problems singing it. He had to rely on Changmin it was a beautiful moment.
And no matter how much you hate on them that memory won’t be taken away from the member or from the fans
@Alice
Nobody’s hating on anybody.
We wouldn’t want others to take all the credit away from JYJ too.
Just stop assuming everything Jae does is for whatever reasons.
@shadow
Jae does what he wants when he wants. I’m not assuming anything. Just enjoying the memories along with him. It is such a simple matter. The only thing I know is Jae did not post that message to create wars but to spread the love of a song that had a special meaning for him. We can all agree on that yeah?
@Alice
If I didn’t read incorrectly, Jae ONLY mentioned its a great song and NOTHING about his memories.
As long as people don’t assume things on his behalf, we JYJ fans are all good, yeah?
@shadow
“we JYJ fans are all good, yeah?”
I really wish that was the case one day maybe. But whether we are united or not the support for the artists will remain no matter what
@Shinraein, I’m not following any updates from groups I’m not interested in, so I can’t reply to your question. But other time read more carefuly, I was generally speaking about moral and legal rights, not about a particular song. Also, there’s no desperate JYJ fan in this world, because we’re living in the present, into a reality where JJ, YC and JS are living too, as great human beings and as amazing three artistes that form the group JYJ. Lastly, I don’t need any apology from OT5, but all of you could apology to JYJ for not acknowledging their present. Then, I’d be respectful again, but, until that time, I ‘m planning to treat the others exactly as they’re treating JYJ & JYJ fans.
@Shadow exactly my thoughts. I don’t think Baby sky would be too easy to sing for those two.
I am sorry for you, but you’re not right. Many years ago I used to sing in a classic choral and I know what I’m saying. The TWO have good voices for backing vocals. But they have a huge problem as duo singers. The tonalities of their voices are too close and too high (both tenors). This is bad because they cannot build the harmony of a song. And they need (and hired, as we all can see) a bunch of backing vocals, including a rapper. JYJ doesn’t need that. There is Junsu for high notes, Jaejoong for the middle in principal (but he has a very large ambitus, going from low notes to very high notes) and Yoochun as baritone and rapper.
See the difference? It’s a huge one. JYJ, as individuals, without backing vocals, proved their quality and value on stage. But what would TVXQ2 be without backing vocals? THIS is the question.
Of course, as 5 on stage, no one could see the difference. But after they split up, it’s so obvious…
This (my text above) is supposed to be a reply to Shinraei
@samo99ro
Totally agree with you.The singing ability of the two is very limited as duo.If they don’t carry the name of the TVXQ,they would not have survived as duo.TVXQ5 was a hit because of their wonderful harmony.JYJ still has it.
@samo99ro
I used to sing in a choir, and choral groups too! hi fellow gleek! I completely agree with you, the current tvx2 both have excellent backing voices, ones that blend beautifully and add richness to a group ( just like me back in the day- i was never cut out to be a solo singer- sobs) Changmin does have his cool very high falseto screams which bring some sparkle to their work. But neither have the very interesting or compelling voices that Jae and especially Junsu have. And Yoochun’s rich deep chocolate sound grounds them. Which is why Im a fan of JYJ, and not of tvx2. Well that and they are just so deliciously lovable.
I secretly would love Jae and Chunface to record a duo album. I think their different colors would blend exquisitely, Jae’s lovely silky smooth sound and Yoochun’s warm chocolate.
Cheryl here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBxA1Ja-MA&feature=player_detailpage
I like this version better of colors.
Really, Anam..I said these sometime ago. I don’t bash them as long ot5 don’t bash JYJ and JYJ fans. I am sincere when I feel so, unlike others who stated they hate JYJ3 yet they come here and pretend to be reasonable. And I know you don’t like at all JYJ3 and “stans” so just ignore me or hate me also.
I don’t plan to reply to any other comment, fyi.
Also, sorry JYJ3 admins for giving those ppl the chance to comment again while replying me, but I was really disturbed by the fact they can’t even enjoy peacefully their “emoshinki” feels cause they need to bash this respectful fansite.
…the desperation in the comments in here. It’s like some people regressed into being 6 years old. Please don’t embarrass yourself people, grow up =___=
Lol the desperation from these posts. It was Yoochun who composed it so of course he is listening to it. The OT5 posts on here are pathetic. You guys sound desperate and are desperate. They are not going to come back together for at least another 10 years because your other oppas supported SM. Just because he listens to old songs doesn’t mean shit. I listen to their old CDs because I bought them and I like their old songs doesn’t mean I love the current 2.
What the heck! Why are OT5’s posting in here! Shoooo, go away…
We are fans of JYJ too ok ..I love tvxq and JYJ too ..
omg. this is one of so many reasons why jae/junsu/chun or uknow/changmin cant say anything about their past/r/ship watever. just slight comment and this occur.
just stop making assumptions and enjoy his tweet in watever ways u want.
and plz dont harrased jae’s twitter account.
plz love the boys for who they ARE and who they WERE.
each one em, whichever site u choose.
OMG….im sick of this..!
pls people…stop it..
jaejoong is a member of JYJ and JYJ is a part of tvxq! nuff said!
WAS
LOL it is very funny l LOL only because JJ write this message
OT5s are omgggg! JJ from TVXQ LOL AKTF! db5k forever together LOL & bashing JYJ fans thinking this tweet affect us or changes the reality LOL
what reality?
at the end of the day JJ still is living like JYJ and let TVXQ
how long is JJ giving you “hope”? four years? five years? since 2009 right? lol
& still nothing has changed, they aren’t friends, dbsk is split ,he is still JYJ lol
dont worry ot5s …keep the faith LOL take a seat & wait the “comeback” of DB5K LOL
JJ will continue to give you hope to you guys every year lol but he will remain like JYJ like always LOL
2030
JJ tweet: mirotic was so cool.
ot5s: JJ is OT5 …AKTFFFFFFFF they will be five again ;;
lol
@jai
LOL Well, yeah…. it is kinda silly. And kinda sad, really. I wonder what else is going on in these girls’ lives. It’s like what they say about baby ducklings: the first thing they see whether it’s their mother duck or a dog or a cat, they follow around forever. These poor girls… SM and their fabled brainwashing techniques really did a number on them.
I like your comments. It is hilarious and it’s exactly how we felt. If I am a Jaeger, I give you my giant thumbs up!
come on guys
lets just enjoy this sunday morning!^^
no more hate..lol
Think first before adding a comment..
just Love. Again, Dont hate 🙂
OT5s reprimanding JYJ fans for joking that ‘Jaejoong enjoys his soulmate’s compositions’ are the very same ones who are dead set on spazzing because he mentioned a db5k song (bc ofc it /muuuust/ mean he misses the other two. like omg). Such hypocrisy by OT5s, it’s pathetic.
this issue is getting away of hand.. guys keep ur cool..
Ladies – Let’s go easy on the OT5s. As the days, weeks, months and years go by and there is NO indication that what they want is going to happen, it must be hard to keep their illusions going. That’s why they’ll leap at any little sign that maybe…. maybe ….. We’re pretty grounded in reality here, on the other hand. Many of us have tirelessly done the research, read all that there is to read about JYJ’s exodus from SM and know the facts as opposed to the pipedreams.
what JJ likes the song or listen DB5K songs…doesnt change the fact DB5K is split either…at least you need deal with that fact. ..this was his choice.
@Patty
There’s nothing to “deal with” that I can see. Yuchun was in DBSK, now he’s a member of JYJ. He wrote the song as a member of DBSK, then he left that group and became a member of JYJ. Is there really anyone who is disputing that? I think you may be imputing an attitude and an agenda that seems in fact to be your own.
Jaejoong was listening to a song that was composed by Yoochun and himself. FULLSTOP. That’s it. There is no ulterior motive or conspiracy theory. Why can’t he just listen to an old OT5 song in peace? Why? Why? Anyway it is a song that was composed by Yoochun and him, he has the right to listen to it. I can’t tell you about Jaejoong. I like Forever Love because it showcased Jaejoong’s and Junsu’s vocals. I still listen to it but I have no wish for them to go back or whatsoever. JYJ has won all the way and they are as happy as they can be right now. So unless they said anything specifically JYJ will remains as THREE (3)! ONLY THREE! Geddit?!
great comment : http://hellothrice.tumblr.com/post/57288744562/for-the-record-baby-sky
(for those who haven’t read it)
For the record: Baby Sky
I still enjoy that song.
It just saddens me that JYJ is seemingly not allowed to enjoy their own memories without people trying to shove their beliefs, opinions, or delusions down their throat.
They have a right to their past, they have a right to reflect back and enjoy the good memories. Lets be honest, there WERE good memories that even I as a longtime fan still cherish.
Accept that both sides have moved on and can still look back and enjoy their own history.
Personally, I’m happy if JYJ members are able to recall happier memories and great songs they contributed to despite the sore and open wound they experienced. That’s called: HEALING.
It is comforting, at least for me, to know Jaejoong, Yuchun, and Junsu are finally getting, or perhaps already arrived, at the point where they can look back and smile.
– Hellothrice
“Accept that both sides have moved on and can still look back and enjoy their own history.”
After the totality of events of the last 3 years, I have a hard time imagining how the members of JYJ and their fans are supposed to “look back and enjoy their history.” SM has taken care of any hope of that happening by their concerted effort to publically disparage, shun and ruin the members of JYJ. When one knows the history, it becomes difficult to do that.
I agree with you!!!
They have all the rights to reminisce the past.
Even I myself is an OT5 but I am very grateful that my JYJ have already moved on…they can now look back to the past with a genuine smile…I LOVE JYJ FOREVER!!!
Wow the wording but we do not hate we just chose to not help promote what is wrong in the music industry.
I love Kiss the Baby Sky and I listen to it on my DVD Tohoshinki The Secret Code, so how does that benefit SM? However, I do love even better the live performance in Tokyo Dome. I still imagine in my mind every detail of that performance. I thought there were about 100,000 people packed there. I can see in my mind JJ starting to sing even before he climbed up on his carousel. He didn’t hear his name when it was first called coz he was talking to the audience, Chunnie had to call him out a second time. This was their last song and Chunnie was sick at that time. When he went back on stage, he did his rapping and when he started singing he broke in the middle. Changmin was just coming to the stage and realized what happened, immediately took over and covered for him. That is how much every member cared for each other. This is history and it cannot and should not be erased. I think the bad memories are about the management and the company but the five shared their life and the memories they made cannot be erased but can only make one feel sad and regret what happened later on. Since the split I do not listen to the other two because to me JYJ were always the voice, the face and the music of DBSK and it is so unfair that they cannot claim their own creations. With JJ I am nostalgic about the beautiful songs of those days. I cannot forget Waserunaide, Summer Dream or Forgotten Season.
LOL …what is going on here ?
I’ve must have missed the riot ….
Let’s not deny the boys their voice to reminisce their past…or use their recollections as cause to fight between fandoms. Their past is part of their lives and they have the right to look back to those memories. We should respect that and take it as it is…they are today JYJ and that is the reality … we all need to respect that! Recognize them for the artist they’ve evolved into and support them for who they are today!
I love this sooong! It does make me feel happy and relaxed as well. Yoochun has great composing skills. ::thumbs up::
I think we should just accept each other’s opinions,, may it be a stan and OT5 or an alien or whatever,, let’s just be happy for JJ , i guess that’s not what u called living in d past but it seems he misses his friends, old friends.. well in reality, don’t u miss your friends too though there’s some misunderstanding happened between you and your friend,, oh well, it has been four years and still stans and OT5 are still not in peace,,
First thing first, what makes you think he thinking of his “friends” and not simply ing enjoying the song his soulmate created?
Next, Situation like this will keep on happening until people can accept that JYJ members are moving on and STOP insisting the members carry the “Believe in 5 faith.”
And of coz, until some people stop calling JYJ FANS as JYJ STANS in a degrading manner.
@I ♥ DBSJYJ (@cassielf_JYJ)
Sincerely, I say this: it is insulting for you to call fans of JYJ “stans” because we have moved on and others haven’t. Is that how you meant it?
What Jaejoong “seems” to be feeling is a massively subjective thing, wouldn’t you agree? What we here are absolutely certain of is that he would not wish to be back at SM for all the world. He left with his members because each was absolutely sure they wanted to be free of SM’s monumentally dishonest and duplicitous way of conducting themselves. They have never looked back and they have never regretted their decision to my knowledge, and believe me, I’ve done the reading and any evidence that Jaejoong is pining for lost glories as a member of DBSK does NOT exist. He’s said over and over again. his future lies happily as a member of JYJ. Why don’t OT5s get this?
@Lilibaiyu
Exactly! Even to the extend of being farmers, eventhough sexy ones, they decided to leave.
I think they speaks volumes.
@shadow
xxoo
🙂
sorry but WTF is stan dont give other name as u please, JYJ fans F.A.N.S, name it properly.
Stan is from the Eminem song of the same name, “this is Stan your biggest fan” etc etc. As far as I’m concerned if one is not as insane as Stan was in that song(he kills himself and his pregnant girlfriend in the end) then one is not a stan. Making Internet comments no matter how passionate, defensive, or angst filled do not make you a stan. The closest the JYJ world has to stans are the saesang stalkers.
uhmm excuse me.. hi.. hello.. but were you here early? if you were not here during the trolling then dont post something about maturity.. because they were not blocked for no valid reason.. they started a fanwar (even my innocent comment got affected).. and it was very immature of your peers because they were like *let’s go and troll JYJ3* … isnt that more childish??? they are not blocked for being OT5 because as you can see you can comment.. so peace and not jump to conclusions without investigating the event that transpired ^__^
ahahahaha.. my post are left hanging LOLLL so much for replying.. *waves at admin*
@ jenknight18
oh so you’re finally back my friend …and you got immediately jumped on .
this is completely out of no where but …. where’s your ever so beautiful chunface pics ?
ahahah let me spend a few minutes getting my precious DP back.. LOLL am i making a comeback here LOLLL
I remember that the first thing I ever said to you ( in the beginning of JYJ3 ) was ” I love your chunface DP” .
@meme & JYJ… wow am deeply touched you remembered it like that.. wow…. seriously.. ^______^
I only remember the people I like
Now I wanna see the Chunnie DP too!
@meme & JYJ, @jenknight18
Now this thread is what this JYJ Family of Fans is all about! PEACE to you my sisters! 😀
Stay away if you don’t know the real situation.
Or better still, to avoid heartache, click that X at that top right hand corner.
You’re welcome.
as for me.. im happy he was listening their old song.. i think its time to respect what Jaejoong do, and i will enjoy listening it, it’s a good song.. 🙂
how many people cried in this beautiful sunday?
These comments/reactions by these kind of fans (jyj/tvxq/ot5) are the reason why i chose to be a neutral fan and stick to a certain bias.
Quote: “We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.”
sigh.. i dont know what really was happening, but i’ll just post trans of JJ’s part in JYJ Magazine vol 2:
“Whatever it was, instead of ‘LIVE IN THE PAST’ that you want to erase, LIVE IN THE PRESENT which will become the foundation of a tough but happier life in the FUTURE..” (JaeJoong – Letter to Myself, JYJ Magazine Vol. 2)
it was his own word.
best one 😀
It’s sad see how fans can’t understand that even though they were in the same group some years ago, they in different ones nowadays but it doesn’t mean that they should hate each other neither :(((( There’s nothing wrong in him hearing this song. It’s a pretty song that he used to sing and enjoy. He once said that he never regreted of making any of his tattoos. That’s how i know that he’d never regret his past. DBSK time gave him lot of good memories and friends, it was responsible for making his dream come true. Every piece of it it’s meaningful to him and we should respect. It’s his feeling that matters after all, not ours.
@fay
Honestly, I would not dream of hating anyone. But I admit it makes me tired when OT5s show up at the slightest provocation to harangue us here over a lot of nonsense that just makes no possible logical sense after 3 years of JYJ having moved on and having said countless times that JYJ is now their future. There is NO WAY they would ever go back to SM. Homin is signed exclusively to SM for many years to come. They claim they like that just fine. But aside from that, there’s no way they can do anything but follow SM’s dictates to them. All I’m saying is that those two facts are pretty much all you need to know in regards to there being ANY possibility of any sort of tearful reunion…
@lilibaiyu I can understand u >< I'm an OT5, but sometimes i'm also tired. They keep thinking that everything JYJ do is HoMin related and everything HoMin do is JYJ related and sometimes even bash who doesn't have the same opinion. I believe they'll reunite someday, but it's a faith matter. And people believe in whatever they wanna believe, they just have to accept that not everyone think like them.
I miss those songs. I don’t see anything wrong with him listening to it. I think he has come to peace with everything, and so should we. Can’t we enjoy his present and also appreciate his past?
yess jaejoong was enjoying listening to the song BBUUTT if u try to think about it what made him go all the way and listen to this song ? of course u wont think that someone sent him the song our the song just popped in his head all of sudden!! he remembered them he missed them singing 2gether and and believe that he didnt listen only to Baby Sky 😉
jaejoongs tweet made me ssuuuure that no one can forget and erase their past even if they want to
after the FTCs orders i think JYJ & HoMin will show and say more about there past without borders and unnesessary comments from “SOME” stans
& about jaejoongs rights to listen to this SONG!!!! JAEJOONG AND EVVERRYYBODY IN THE PLANET HAVE THEIR RIGHTS TO LISTEN TO ANY SONG THEY WANT IN THE WHOOOLE WORLD STOP TALKING ABOUT STUPID RIGHTS
BTW its a nice song <33
Ya ya ya, another one trying to explain/assuming what “Jae thinks, or feels”
Go on, keep it up, but in an OT5 site please.
This is a JYJ fansite for JYJ FANS.
with these kind of people in that fandom we are waiting for them to grow up lol.
this is what JJ said to HIMSELF in the new magazine. enjoy
“Whatever it was, instead of ‘LIVE IN THE PAST’ that you want to erase, LIVE IN THE PRESENT which will become the foundation of a tough but happier life in the FUTURE..” (JaeJoong – Letter to Myself, JYJ Magazine Vol. 2)
frm my own understnding of all d latst interview of JYJbros.they always emphasized on how thy love to continue singing|prforming under the name of JYJ..on how strong their bond|relationship and see the future w/ only the 3 of them..sooo im happy n satisfied..peace
#JYJonly ❤
LOL poor ot5, its a good song written by YC now he is praising his soulmate. Read the tweet for like 10-1000 times what it reads. ?baby sky is a good song and yes its a good song , agree with JJ.
during the breakup of tvxq, I used to think, they just broke up these *some* ot5 will come to their scenes when the time goes by, 4 years now and the stupidity continues
and just like the one commentator wrote
2030:
jj: mirotic was a cool song
ot5: JJ is ot5 … hahaha this was one of the best
btw JJ has said that he felt sad that int. fan see him as hero JJ and neglect the group JYJ,
JUNSU presscon in thailand 2013 interview,”even when i turn 40 i want to work as member of JYJ”,”Our members are working hard to protect the name JYJ” there are a lot for YC,my fav one is “only 3 of us are staying together forever”
if they want to say anything or miss anything they will say it they are not afraid, remember the “twitter incidents” even it made many of the people their antis they said it, many ot5s twist and turn jj evey word to make fulfill their fantasies, but neglect the one that break their fantasies
just a little advise
Don’t live ur life like that by only making assumptions and fantasies cuz u r the one that will have to face the “truth” in the end.
@jjer If they belive JYJ will one day unite with Homin, there is nothing wrong in that, just that belief is delusion to you, or because it bothers you doesn’t really give you the right to go hostile on them. Some of them make ignorant mistake but don’t mean to be hostile at all. No way someone who hurt JYJ is an ot5 , ot5 support JYJ, buy their albums, sign petition and vote for Jaejoong who I think is your bias. What makes you different from someone who leaves hurtful remarks towards a whole fandom to start a fan-war ? Just because you don’t believe what they believe ? You don’t know the future, maybe one day, they be-friend each-other again. And who knows, maybe make a duet MV. And maybe it will never happen. But no need to cause fan-war by showing your hatred towards people who support JYJ.
Could we please mind what we say, or ells we become like the troll that started all this, just what the difference if the words we use provoke fan-war in the end all because of comments from members from either side.
Let’s put our energy on KS who is now suffering public anger, we could use this to make public sympathize with JYJ’s case to show that KBS is in the wrong and has bad ethics .
There was an incident recently that had public question KBS reporter ethics or something like this. Korean public is not happy with KBS now, shouldn’t we use this time to tweet FTC to make it’s move on KBS now.
Does someone have FTC twitter or e-mail, so we can ask them to make KBS not obstruct JYJ’s TV appearance ? To give JYJ a fair chance to promote like other kpop idols are given the chance to do so by KBS. Fair-treatment , not mistreatment from KBS. I think nows the time.
OT5 LOVE JYJ too……..Why some Blockhead peoples created Fanwar……..
I agree with @Daisy
A large portion of JYJ fans also support Homin. Please, one individual’s mistake is one individual’s mistake, lets keep the peace and not fall into the trap of a fan-war. This is aimed to take away attention from the fandom. You all know Cassiopia and JYJ fans all united these days against KBS and SM obstruction of JYJ and started to demand seeing JYJ on TV. Cassiopeia is our friend not our Enemy. All5 supporters are Cassiopeia because they support Both JYJ and Homin. Please people lets unite and keep the peace and not encourage fan-wars by hurting each other, this is exactly what SM want us to do, to be busy insulting and accusing each other. One individual’s fault if one individuals fault. Let’s keep the peace.
No to fan-war between All5 and JYJ fans, we all want to see JYJ on TV and we all support their TV appearance, and signed petition together to get FTC talking just recently.
This is SM doing or some anti or just really a simple ignorant person , But I think it’s SM staff for sure, so you would not focus on KBS’s recent incident about JYJ’s TV appearance, wake up. SM has done this sort of thing before on allkpop to take your focus away and making JYJ supporters less in numbers. If SM know about this site, then expect SM to send more trolls posing to engage JYJ fans into a war with All5 to not focus on SM and KBS obstruction anymore.
Do you all know that KBS is getting public heat recently ? something KBS reporters had done, has cause public rage, why don’t we use this incident to pressure KBS who now tries to fic it’s public image instead of this stupid fan-war.
yup @applexia….we love 5 of them for so long……..long enough before they separated…….so it’s naturaly to support both of them (i don’t have heart to hate 1 or 2 or 3 of them)……..but i understand to new fans that only love JYJ…… they love the guys when JYJ was born….it’s okay……..no interfere………..so many kind of fandom out there that support these 5 or 3 or 2 or Just biased with one person….it’s okay….we must respect each others……..Just stop fan war.
JYJ no longer has “Cassiopeia” as their fandom, it is not official, it belong to that 2 now. And may I ask, why is it so hard for you to declare yourself as “JYJ’s Fans”(OT3)? I have wondering do you all read JYJ’s interviews seriously and sincerely in your head to your heart? Or just blind yourself on what you desire?
For your info, real official Cassie (OT2), do not want to have anything to do with JYJ. Only you OT5 will want to link everything and anything together.
I know about that quarrel…..why should i declare i’m JYJ3? it’s not hardly for me to say….Yes i’m JYJ….just like u….to be honest FOR ME: i have no desire to 5 of them to be together again….both of them have they own path now…..No….& impossible since 3 of them say JYJ Forever…..no since they are mention it over & over……(firstly i hear it ” in live line chat with KJJ…..JJ clearly said it 2 yochun……JYJ Forever)……but i’m not strict person…..that only open my heart 4 the 3 & closed 4 the 2……..it’s just sadly 2 see Fan war…….they are fans 2…..we can’t be ignorance to them…..they have contribute to JYJ too…..they have same love like JYJ fans do…….we must respect each other……if not……not only JYJ but me also going to lose some of friends.
Fanwar cause by who? If all delusional OT5 + YJS (Pretending to be OT5, geez!) come to theirs senses and grow up be less of spolit brats and more of a responsible person and move on from that damm past, our fandom will has less trouble. We just have to concentrate on Anti and Acgaes. At least they are very clear on what they hate. XD
Hello everybody can we focus on what is important here squashing the men who are trying to hold JYJ back from activities do not care what group you are from lets come together and ensure JYJ is no longer discriminated against if you are posting here you most love the boys so come up with ideas to help further along the careers and to get the word out we will not stand for any one standing in the way of what the boys want. Love and peace. ok I am feeling so great this morning about JJ announcement I am about to bounce off the wall to save endangered species
Yup, we JYJ’s fans know. But can you explain why is your money go to SM that perhaps “unintentionally” goes to the bribery to those stations in blocking JYJ? Very contradicting but then, yup, it’s your freedom in using your money.
Supplying SM with more “bullets” to shoot JYJ with….what a show of love towards JYJ eh? DUH!
@shadow & @murasaki
Agree with u guys 333%!!!
Really I get so confused when OT5 keep saying they are cassies. Are they saying they’re homin fans and they joined the fanclub run by SM and Avex? LOL Such contradiction!
Agree..somtime i feel like..
Why dont these people just come up to JYJ and SHOOT THEM IN THEIR HEAD..
Rather then play-oh-natural&inoccent-dont-mind-anything as long the boys could fill up theirfantasies..
like..seriously frustated..
Where’s my Comment >.<
i love their old songs and they are a part of their history. i am happy that he can listen to them and be happy for them. i do too. some day i hope they can have the rights back and sing them if they want to when they want to and how they want to. for now, this is how he can enjoy them and remember those times too.
Hi guys what’s going on a great weekend? Pros and cons it’s normal. Calm down ….. before everyone be able to get depression!
With our love and sincerity ….. Let.s give a space to Jaejoongie refreshed his own history, in the past, current either poor or good memorable to him.
From the hardship we can see how is Jaejoong and JYJ now. May be BABY SKY is one of the valuable and meaningful to him not just a song but a friendship……Today he want to share with us what’s in his heart and his mind too…..
BABY SKY ~ “Listening to it again after a long time wow~ it’s nice”
I just guess, sorry. So we must accept and appreciate him
Jae oppa don’t be sad, …… because of Baby Sky ~~~~^^
Happy Sunday, ^^ <3<3<3 Jae oppa and JYJ forever ^^^
JJ How much you miss? I’m already know. This song is so meaningful and innocent song. Past is only past that everyone says but we can’t destroy it.The name Kim jaejoong will never famous without the start of 5member. But we only possess the present. So please stay happy jj!
What is “The name Kim Jae Joong will never famous without the start of 5 members”???
What do YOU even know? How can YOU even make judgement calls like this?
You are another “SM CREATED THEM SO BE GRATEFUL NAIVE KID.”!
Ya…she is indeed…
“Closet” OT5, only reveal her true form depend on topic. Other than that, she is all sugar and sweet and almost everywhere in JYJ3.
Seems like this kind like wearing masks…
Yes, and I got “reprimanded” by her kind, kekeke~~
@su su moe
Multitalented Kim Jaejoong will be famous even if he debuts as solo singer ∕ artist!! He excels in everуthing he does.
Please think carefullу before U speak
Dear su su moe, can you please stop your being pretentious. I want to like you but it’s very hard. XD
Dear marusaki@
Please don’t misunderstand me.
I’m never support SM ‘caz they make to hard our jyj. But i stil like shinee;super junior etc. It’s quite different. We against sm related with jyj. We never destroy their past and didn’t know their heart.
I support jyj with all of my heart and my comment doesn’t mean
anti appearance.I love peace and want to see jj smiling face everyday.
Friend sorry for my wrong your name.
Please inatead read ‘Dear murasaki’. So i think you understand my comment.
If you want JJ’s smiling face, please stop mistaken him that he will miss the other 2. They are no longer friends for now. And as fans, it is none of our business to dictate them. Friendship is by Fate. If Fated has ended, means it is not, regardless on how many years has gone by.
I mean that jj start his singer life with 5. I never mean like ‘reunite’ ‘caz now jj so happy with jyj and his solo activity. I’m jyj fan too. I want to see jj’s smiling face everytime.
Please don’t be misunderstand me. I’m sorry and sorry for my late reply.
I thought this was interesting to read again…
http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/opinion-the-reason-for-sm%E2%80%99s-all-out-attack-on-jyj/
Kiss The Baby Sky….my old time favorite….still in my playlist…^^
Whoaa..i am seriously missing the action here..can’t really understand the flow of the posts since some have been chopped off 😉
Poor admin..a busy sunday morning for them just because of a tweet
Keep cool people, lets create love and not hate. It will only add on wrinkles to our face
Despite the arguments, at least everyone agree that it is a beautiful song
Just to clarify an apparent misunderstanding here: Not all OT5’s believe that their reunion will happen one day. But they all do believe that supporting all five, no matter what they do, is the most important. Not all OT5’s are the same. Just saying. All this infighting between OT5’s vs JYJ fans vs Homin fans has gone on long enough. How can we truly support them, when all we do is fight? Support them the right way and just ignore those fans that are trying to cause issues. I know we want to protect our boys but no amount of fighting will ever stop them. So lets just let it go and support them with all our hearts.
I Love it.
sigh… ot5….
Jaejoong, are you gonna tweet about Susu’s concert or his success next??
Or maybe you call him instead? Hmm? More selcas maybe? A selca with the 3 of you together would be super nice!! 🙂
We need a topless selca to distract us.
I’m sure Jaejoong has more than one past TVXQ song on his playlist, it’s just that this time he decided to share what songs he was listening. I think Jaejoong can listen to whatever makes him happy and fits his mood. It’s nice that he shared what he was listening to but as a fan of all five despite what some may think.. I don’t think this signals a reunion. Anyhow I do not care about the members singing together. I only care about the members healing and mending their friendship that is most important. Off topic but chorus sounds like a Bee Gees inspired song.
Let just be positive thinking … jj’s happy and that’s all mattered
Anyway let the past be the past, memories are just memories, but no one or nothing can erase the memories that have been carved .. They are happy now with their own way..
Wow as expected, so much drama again… Just stop it guys it’s just a song he reminisce that’s PART of his life * shakes head* -____-
And now I’m waiting for his tweets about Su’s successful concert or album! Or maybe he did and I missed it?
No offense but, is it his DUTY to openly declare his support for his members?
I do not know that he NEEDS to show the world he cares for his members.
Surely there are other ways of communicating amongst them…
Wow as expected, so much drama again… We ALL DONT KNOW what’s in Jae’s mind. Just stop it guys if he wants to reminisce let him. It’s just a song and PART of his life… *shakes head* -________-
Wow as expected, so much drama again… Let him reminisce what’s part of his life it’s not a crime geez…
@TVfXQ
Hey kid, you just come out of a well or something? It’s 2013 now.
Shoot shoot, go back to where you come from.
Brain not fully developed still dare to show yourself?! LOL
yeah, “at the end this is JYJ ” lol YC write and tell us that too lol …OPPPS! xD
in the end DB5K is split…Oppssss! i did it again LOL
‘We are never ever ever getting back together’ taylor swift…lol
There’s a spoof MV of that song and it is hilarious!
XP
Really??? Link? 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfOpoWmVSd0 This one. XD
can’t wait for another Soulmate composition~
there will be delusional OT5 trying to reminisce the glory day that cannot be repeated by being 5 again~
but thanks to them, we, JYJ fans have so much fun 😀
Reblogged this on redballoonscassieot5.
JYJ stan and OT5<<<.. now who has the offense who has the defense… as i see.. both sides are not getting the point.. looking too much into it??. it is just a looking back… so what??,,, others are just amazed…that jae still cherishes that song.. so what?? others felt something so what..others things that it is ok.. so what??/ commenting… ridiculing words.. and maligning each others.. clashing to one another.. what do you get??? just what do you obtain by answering to things that will not benefit you more than the feeling of hate… seriously.. who has stooped down…?? who humbly apologized.. who wins in this argument.. NO ONE !.. EVERYONE LOSES.. act like civilized beings.. not some grade school that fight over a spilled ice cream.
Delusional OT5’s misery is my pleasure XD
Is it not better if we can reminisce the past with a genuine smile even if that past caused us unexplainable pain and an unbearable nuisance? Reminiscing the past with a smile means you have already moved on…it is not living with the past or wishing that past will happen again or something.
I love JYJ, and they have my full respect…I’ll be happy in anything that will make our JYJ happy.
Even though half of me is OT5 and still have the AKTF feeling, I won’t insist what I want to happen.
If JYJ doesn’t want to reunite with Homin someday (of course it must be outside SME!!!!), then be it.I’ll still be very glad with it!
As I’ve said, what will make MY PRINCE/DARLING CHUNNIE happy, he has my 1000% support!
Anyone of us here doesn’t know what JJ really thinks and feels beyond his post so who are we to bash one another?
Let us just support our dear JYJ in all of their journey!!!
Peace… 🙂
Theres nothing wrong listening to ur pr ur members old songs…hope ot5 wont bug him abt it much…i love kiss the baby sky and wasurenaide…im still listening to colours…i miss the time when they would be able to sing it again…its a beautiful song
Dear ot5 and jyj fans, i think its more productive if we think abt how to get JYJ unblocked from broadcasts or vote JYJ members like crazy to win polls rather than to involve ourselves in fanwars that doesnt bring any benefit just bcoz Jaejoong decided to listen to old dbsk songs…and yoochun’s song at that…just leave him alone…why would u choose to force what u believe on jaejoong? He can listen to all the songs if he wants..and he can…because that is apart of his past…and theres his voice recorded in there…now move on..
Story of the day:
Some ot5 come and create trouble in a JYJ fansite.
JYJ fans defended.
Other ot5 come and give lectures about “living peacefully.”
And this gets repeated every now and then…
My only question to all those who are so heartwrenching into having 5 together again or certain pairings loving the hell on one another, is this: Are you investing the same amount of energy, time, in pestering the other 2-fifths of the 5 and their fan forums, or are you doing this only to JYJ and their fans? …because if you only do this to the 3-fifths, then you are nothing but a bully towards the 3-fifths….needless to say that your actions/ words resemble those of a bully regardless if you are pestering the 2-fifths or 3-fifths or all 5 (and their respective fans). But if you are a bully, deep inside you already know this, because this is how thrive. I hope you find your peace and direct all this energy you have to smth more beneficial to you and the rest of us.
And it’s ALWAYS against JaeJoong.
It’s like he OWES them for their OWN choice of keeping their delusional faith alive.
SMH.
well, as i said they are bullies and nothing else. u expect men to be bullies, but in fandom culture, bullies are girls/women…SAD shit.
Are you giving us a hint that Yuchun is composing another nice song,Jaejoong?
In other news…………….My finger still points!!