The following information revealed by Korean HEROSE’s ex-Admin doesn’t represent the opinion of all JYJ3 Team.
We have decided to share Herose’s ex-Admin: “My Memoirs of CJeS for 4 Years”, because HEROSE has a good reputation among Jaejoong/JYJ fandom as a very supportive fansite thanks to the many fanprojects they have conducted, furthermore HEROSE’s ex-Admin is disclosing several incidents, which allow us to understand the drama between CJeS and Korean Jaejoong’s fans.
As international fans who have experienced many incidents since TVXQ5 days, we have learned that nothing good will come out from trying to hide things from the fandom; in the end everything will be revealed sooner or later. At least since this time the Korean fandom is sharing their experience to the international fans, it’s better to know everything beforehand and not at the last minute.
We are JYJ’s fans now and we don’t intend to commit the same mistakes of the past, claiming that nothing happened just because it doesn’t involve JYJ fandom as a whole, if not to one side, in this case Jaejoong fandom. After all they are part of us too (You are not alone!).
Whether or not what HEROSE’s ex-Admin revealed here is true, you are the person in charge of believing what you want. For some people, things that are said here are nothing new, they just confirm some things they already knew; but I know for others this will be quite shocking. Whatever your final opinion is, we think this matter should be discussed in our own “home”.
Finally, We want to make it clear JYJ3 will continue supporting Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu’s solo and group activities. We created this site to support them and no one else. I think most of you know our beginnings, and how we started sharing several information banned from other sites, this conflict between Korean Jaejoong Fans and CJeS isn’t recent, they have been dealing with this for a long time. If you don’t want to know this “dark side” of the fandom, you are invited to leave this post. But If you’ll continue then PLEASE I hope you behave in the comment section.
Part 2. My Memoirs of CJeS for 4 Years
Submitted by 바람난누나 (admin of HEROSE)
Chapter 4: Law firm for whom?
After the lawsuit, the anti-fans’ aggressiveness surrounding JYJ was a huge pain that we can’t even put into words.
JYJ fans had to have a tough fight, standing against anti-fans’ malicious rumors.
Japan’s Gazzang blog, which poured out all kinds of malicious rumors and curses as soon as the lawsuit began, arbitrarily translated the Dispatch’s JYJ video with the intent for it to be circulated. We requested CJes several times that they handle this Youtube videos (translated by Gazzang) first and foremost since it caused the most serious problems. Every time we requested, CJeS told us to email the data (video url, screencapture, etc.) again and again; so we had to do this unproductive work thinking, ‘Surely CJeS won’t ignore this’ with little expectation. However, although CJES said they sued Gazzang, her videos were in a state of total neglect with still increasing views. It’s said that Youtube videos can be eliminated by CJes, through a management agency’s report though.
CJeS was also lackadaisical in coping with anti-fans in DCinside. The more serious the anti-fans’ flagrant curses became, the more fans’ stress and fury went to extremes to the degree fans could no longer wait, believing CJeS’ words ‘Send us the screencaptures’. Eventually, Jaejoong fans united efforts together, collecting the screencaptures and organizing them, and then sued the most vicious anti-fan WorldJaejoongZzang.
When fans sue a certain celebrity’s anti-fan, the police tend to think it is not a big problem. Thus, in the process of stating testimony as accusers, we had difficulties convincing the detective of the severity and damages. Fortunately, the detective in charge of this case felt sympathy of the damages and the intent that we had to generate a sense of alarm also to other anti-fans who are active on cyberspace especially cyberbullying, therefore this case was able to process favorably.
Meanwhile, we received a call from CJeS. It was because the police has to contact the first party, a celebrity, or his/her management company when the third party sues others in behalf of the first party, so our complaint was shared and read to CJES. “We’ll make a settlement since WorldJaejoongZzang is a minor and she introspects very much.”, said CJes. We thought there was something questionable about this, so we called the detective and asked about the specifics. The detective said it was revealed that WorldJaejoongZzang was leaving malicious comments with two accounts (of DCinside) and one of them was registered in her name* and the other one was in her sister’s name. But the anti-fan herself was not a minor. After I heard this, I called CJeS again and said she’s not a minor and made it clear that it was impossible to settle. If we believed CJeS’ words and did not check the specifics, we might have settled the case, being deceived by WorldJaejoongZzang’s acting as her minor sister.
* T/N: Korean websites request social security numbers when register. (but recently the law changed to not allow requesting SSN)
I am not a person whose job is “fan”. But CJeS employees’ job is dealing with these kind of problems as a living. So I can’t free myself of the thought that CJeS took it so simply without checking the details while fans toiled the work that was supposed to be done by CJeS itself. Just a phone call to the detective was needed though.
After this, CJeS released news articles and posted announcement as following:
It was an announcement that CJeS would take a firm action to the netizens who leave malicious comments concerning JYJ. So I expected inwardly. Because fans’ “accusation” is limited, the punishment tends to be lighter than we expect. On the other hand, if the management agency accuses anti-fans of a wide range of charges, additional punishment can be expected, so the anti-fan would not risk her life ever to cyberbullying.
But I heard nothing from CJeS’ case of accusation; then one day, I received an unexpected call from the police who were undergoing an investigation. It was that WorldJaejoongZzang had accused me of defamation herself. I went to the police and underwent an investigation, and then I was cleared of suspicion (indictment impossible). In short, it was a ridiculous accusation and she only tried to harass me. The most ridiculous thing was that WorldJaejoongZzang applied for a formal trial to the court, with her complaint, ‘The fine (2,000,000 Won) the prosecution sentenced is unfair’. So I am currently in the state of being notified to appear as a witness from the court. I thought that WorldJaejoongZzang would receive additional punishment if CJeS accused her, but it was an absurd situation that she even mentioned about her reputation and applied for a formal trial as if she was wronged. What would happened if I released this vicious anti-fan with no self-reflection at all? Doesn’t it make you dizzy?
Having experienced a chain of such events, I wondered if WorldJaejoongZzang was included in the list of netizens CJes said it would accuse…. So I made an inquiry to CJeS, and they answered me back ‘It’s difficult because she’s a minor’. I was stunned in silence while confirming them ‘Don’t you remember that we did not settle because she is not a minor?’
And then CJeS answered back ‘It’s impossible to double-accuse since the screencapture overlaps with other fans’ I was stunned into silence once again.
What we did was an accusation from the third party. Didn’t CJeS know that they can accuse her of defamation or whatever themselves with screencaptures besides our compliant? Isn’t this the company CJes that works with one of the best law firms in Korea?
Even so, I suppressed my anger and sent CJeS the screencaptures excluding the ones concerning our former complaint to keep an eye on CJeS once more. CJeS said they would accuse her, but now I didn’t expect them too.
There is a saying “From one thing you can discern all.” If you are on it, it will definitely appear on the surface. And there’s a Chinese proverb ‘To learn from the negatives of a person or a thing’. While I was dealing with CJeS, I learned a lot of things: how a lack of professionalism and insincerity in the work cause big nuisances….
T/N: About WorldJaejoongZzang, please read my post published on December 3rd, 2012. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/k7i1l0 (We fans thought that CJeS was the one who coped with this anti-fan, so I posted this last year, but the reality was….)
Chapter 5: Of what Kim Jaejoong did CJeS work as a management agency?
4 years after the lawsuit, Jaejoong’s solo album ‘I’ released. It was his fans’ long time wish, and was his firstever solo album since his debut. Therefore, it was more special that fans had huge expectations and were massively interested in it. I thought CJeS, of course, knew this kind of fans’ expectation.
JYJ members are under different circumstances from other singers. Due to the cartel of giant companies, even though they release albums, they can’t even properly chart in online music charts, let alone appear in music broadcasts. Therefore, in this reality, the only way to let the general public know of Jaejoong’s status and power is album sales. This is what CJeS has to understand and prepare better than we fans do as it is a management agency.
But how was it?
After the album released, I called Synnara Record for organizing a group purchase. But Synnara threw me a question out of nowhere ‘How many copies of album do you think Jaejoong will be selling?’ It seemed that CJeS had asked Synnara about this and to figure out the number of copies they’re going to produce for the first week. Of course, I said it will be selling well, but a question came to my mind: what was the standard CJes set of the number of copies for the first week.
Our schedule of a group purchase was a bit late though. I had never thought that there would be an album shortage in the first week of the official release. However, there weren’t enough albums supplied to meet the demand even on the first day of our group purchase, and it was an absurd situation since we pre-ordered at Synnara and Synnara had to push CJes to produce more. Jaejoong’s solo album came out, and the only way to tell the the world ‘JYJ members still remain undiminished’ was being blocked by this self-proclaimed management agency, not by an external repression.
Anyone who has ever ran a business knows that every product has its own characteristic. Some product needs to be sold out without any stock left, and some product needs to be sold for a long time even though it’s not sold out immediately. So, the basic of marketing is that you first have to figure out the characteristics of each product. For singers, albums are not seasonal goods that even n-years-old albums steadily sell little by little, more so because there will be new fans who could not buy the album at that time. This is because albums are singers’ history.
But CJeS abused the word ‘No Stock’ in promotional news articles as if they were selling a seasonal good. What was worse, JYJ Japan Official Store announced “Cancelling Pre-orders of ‘Y’ and Refund” even before album ‘Y’ was released. Chinese fans are still making inquiries of group purchasing ‘Y’ album copies by the thousand, and CJeS is only saying there is no stock.
For me who started as a “singer Jaejoong” fan, everything about this seemed really abnormal to me. CJeS’ problem is not only limited to not being able to secure a supply of the album copies; the distributors are also having difficulties because CJeS recall defective products only in a 1:1 exchange.
T/N: meaning, CJeS does not allow the distributors recall defective products unless they give them back to CJeS while other companies just give the distributors extra copies and take the defective products later. CJeS’ this kind of behavior lets the distributors make extra efforts of going back and forth.
The company which needs to show efforts of selling even one more copy and to have good ties with the distributors is acting predominantly, carrying JYJ’s status on its back. Did this company mean that it wouldn’t have any work concerning singers in its future plan? Or because it is forever a 4-year-old novice that lacks of knowledge of the music industry?
Recently, CJeS spoke really true words about a giant company Loen’s tyranny.
“Distribution of album without promotion and marketing is equal to hoard up the contents.”
And please keep in mind that Jaejoong fans clearly remember how CJes promoted and did marketing when Jaejoong was having solo album activity!
There were only a few of news articles whose contents and press pictures are the same. And a few interview articles and videos. What was worse, there were no press conference, promotional videos, banners, leaflets, etc. in Kim Jaejoong’s first-ever Japan solo concerts at Yokohama Arena. There was nothing. It was a “secret” concert that only fans knew of without any advance promotion or promotion on site. CJes did not even reveal the fact that Yokohama concerts’ tickets were only sold for those who newly registered JYJ Japan membership and paid fees (for ticketing of the concerts). They prohibited making mention of it because the way they recruited JYJ Japan membership combining with ticketing of Yokohama concerts was so peculiar? It made me smile bitterly then and it still does now.
However, because it was a point to show Jaejoong’s popularity and his fans’ loyalty, fans requested CJeS to include this part in news articles. But CJeS only edited the formerly reported reduced number of concert attendants, and never mentioned the concerts were ‘limited’ to JYJ Japan membership.
The situation that has come this far makes me think “might’s tyranny” is not only from the outside.
CJes’ business handling in terms of actor Kim Jaejoong… The processes… Actually there’s nothing to talk about.
In what positive way has CJeS supported Kim Jaejoong’s drama and him as an actor; what kind of roadmap does CJeS have, and does CJeS have any plan to shape up the roadmap… There was nothing CJeS has shown thus far that I can think of. Because it is only possible to praise or point out a mistake when the company has done something. Should I laugh or cry?
Chapter: 6: Ending this writing…
Before I started writing this article, I was having a lot of worries and hesitation. And after posting the article, I heard a lot of concerns from fans and I fully understood the reason of their concern.
However, the reason of posting this memoir is just one.
Because we have experienced SM Ent., we know that if we connive unreasonable things, it becomes a practice, and if the practice gets old, they regard this as normal.
If CJes is to truly go with Jaejoong, CJeS should have shown us that it ventures on things they need to improve in and gouge out things they need to cut out. And I think this is the way to keep our pride since we have believed in Jaejoong.
Recently, we fans know that CJeS is rapidly expanding to be an actor specialty management company from the continuous releasing of news articles of CJeS scouting actors outside. How was it able to have such a base of funding power? Any people, even non-JYJ fans, know it. So it is not too much to say that the CEO Baek Chang Ju did not ‘raise’ JYJ, but JYJ including Jaejoong helped set Baek Chang Ju on his leg to be a CEO with a full tank of cash in a short time of period. However, Baek Chang Ju is only getting CJes all fired up about expanding it, and at the same time, also glorifying himself in the way by saying he raised the immature runaway children, JYJ, in the company newsletter so-called ‘JYJ Magazine’.
I do not know what is really the right thing though. Reflecting my own life experiences, I’d say there must be some problem since lots of other people are having doubts too. Even if it’s a stauch castle, it cannot help but collapse if the problems last long. It’s not a solution to hold tight the outside of the castle or protect the castle with the gate locked from the outside when the castle is collapsing inside.
While I have watched and supported Jaejoong for 7 years, I had never thought of giving-up in any situation surrounding Jaejoong. But now, I gave up on CJeS. I do not expect anything from CJeS. If this type of giving-up is what CJes wants, I’d say I lost.
I do know that there are a lot of controversies because of my writing. So, I shall make this clear. I take full responsibility for this writing myself. This writing is what I post as a person, not the admin of Herose. I’d like to underline that I am solely responsible for this writing and it is irrelevant to Herose. I am very sorry because I feel that I left such a big burden on the remaining admins. But I have no doubt that the remaining admins will be more supportive for Jaejoong.
There is a saying “Pull on the oars yourself if there is no wind”.
I end this writing with my little hope that the oars Jaejoong is pulling on will reach the destination he wants to achieve with fans together.
T/N: When the Weibo incident happened, the writer stated that she is no longer admin of Herose ever since she’s revealing the screencapture of email exchanging with CJeS. Read the first and last paragraphs of this (link). As promised, she posted her memoir of CJeS for 4 years as a former admin of Herose.
Translated by: @jaetaku
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