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Happy Saturday for some Friday night for others do you think JYJ will only showcase the new song for the Olympics.
Yay! It’s here.
Hmmm…. I don’t have a clue what the plans are for the new song/video. Does anyone else?
I have no idea, i just hope it will be available on Itunes or Soribada. That’s the best way i can show my support.
Off topic but Taeyeon started following Jae joong, some rumors say she may not want to resign contract with SM next year.
The more people leave Smelly Malicious Entrapment the better!
I think SM made it very clear what ” problems” people who leave ( without them approving) are going to have ….so I doubt it .
Do you have any news about what happened to Chunnie? He was spotted yesterday in a hospital assisted by his manager….any idea pls? Thanks 😉
So worry ='(
Sorry, no idea. I come here to see if any news as well. Some posts about it were deleted… worry … hope everything is fine with Chunnie. T~T
Please don’t worry. What I heard is that he was only visiting a dermatologist for skin care.
but some pics revealed he needs aid from his manager to walk… thats why we are worried…
I hope if he is unwell he feels better soon…
Go jyj fighting. I’am So much excited for upcoming projects 🙂
why chunnie doesnt have any twitter, fb, or instagram account like jaejoong? he dont like his fans?
No twitter acct = dont love fans? Lol
thats not what i mean… coz its the way communicating w/ his fans… fans want an update w/ his or her idols
No he loves you so much. His twitter was hacked and he closed it.
I think he does like social media sites (he was the 1st one with a twitter and also had a cyworld and FB) but not the responsibility of it…I ‘m actually glad that he has not a twitter or FB…
I wish he had an instagram account though.
but then people will stalk him and make a fuss over every picture he’ll post or like on instagram …Jaejoong is going to have that now .
social Media relations between celebs and people are annoying …I don’t know how they do it .
I feel uncomfortable every time they post about he following “X” or liking a pic of “Y”…things become more superficial and less naturals.
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Last week I emailed the Admins at JYJ3 about possibly doing English subtitles on the video of Jaejoong and Jin Yi Han at one of Jae’s solo concerts a while back. It’s this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJnElW9wO20 I haven’t heard back anything from them, but that’s nothing new. I’ve emailed them 3 or 4 times now about various things over the last 3 years and I’ve never had a reply one way or the other yet but in a recent instance of being censored the Admin in that case posted here that all I had to do was email them about any concerns or suggestions I had and they would address them, so that’s what prompted me to ask for the subtitles. I think that a lot of the regulars here would love knowing what was being said in that video, I know I would, so that’s what prompted me to ask for someone to subtitle it. Anyway, I hope they will consider it.
sorry for asking the same question again here, but…
guys, how can we help increase the view on YT? all i do is refresh the page, will that kind of viewing method be counted?
can someone teach me how to make and to play it on the playlist on YT? thanks in advance! ^^ nice day in JYJ fandom!
but isn’t that a cheating method though ?
Well it is kinda if you make a playlist and replay it 24- 7. Other fan groups do it too but it is short of cheating. If you are home and making the playlist to listen to then I think it’s fine, but if you are letting it play while your at work or the movies, then those aren’t real views. It’s not something I have a serious problem with either. I think we want to support them in any way we can. Sometimes I feel like we are up against it all the time, but there are less of us JYJ fans to fight the good fight.
Refreshing the page doesn’t help, make a playlist (it can be short) with some other songs and replay the playlist over and over.
Thanks for the reply guys Cheryl & @meme!!!!
Finally, i made a playlist successfully!!! yay!!!! now i’m streaming Only One M/V and Junsu’s Loen M/V, on playlist while i’m at work and at home to listen to. That way it will be counted to the views right?
Let’s make it to 1 M views, seems still a long way.
Whatever going on in this fandom, i know what makes me stay is JYJ and J-Y-J, let’s overcome our differences, respect each other, together we stand, divided we fall! Peace guys!!!
so much ….emotions …. blow up .
it was like a chain reaction ….
damn…
JYJ as a group and as individuals were a source of joy to us
let’s keep it that way shall we .
Totally agree.
I think once in a while everyone just needs to remove themselves from technology and the fandom and have fun in real life for like a week
When you come back then………all these random outbursts are not ‘serious business’ anymore
people need to just not get too emotionally involved in anything not ” really ” a part of their own lives and family .
love and support within your borderline of ability but don’t let everything and everyone get to you , especially if it’s going to stress you out that much .
True…………but emotions drive behavior whether we acknowledge it or not.
Which can be something beautiful or disastrous.
Also, at one point people have to realize that all fans first language is not English so sometimes their posts seem harsher than they meant them to be………..which is not their fault.
Everyone just needs to become more open-minded to changing fandom dynamics…..instead of always pushing the ‘old way’.
Heck, back in the day I saw more open-minded fans in JYJ fandom then I see nowadays.
I always dislike individual stans. Honestly we all have our bias but if you think your bias is receiving unfair treatment then too bad for you because JYJ are happy together and never once they complain about their relationship. If you want your bias to leave JYJ and CJES I suggest you tell him yourself and watch his reaction to this. Calling his team members greedy behind his back and claim you love him is hypocritical and shameful. Do yourself a favor, sit down and self reflect.
I was debating whether I should reply to this post or not.
I respect your opinion………………….but at some point J. Y. J. fans need to realize this fandom now is made of individual fans to a large extent………..if there was a poll there are probably more individual fans than JYJ fans now because of the members individual activities.
Before JYJ always had group activities even when they had solo schedules yet now we were starved for JYJ activities for 2+ years……of course people would pick their favorite when the only interactions we got were through photoshoots.
The result as you can see yourself is low views on their latest MV after 2+ years. This fandom in general is not as passionate as it used to be….and many of the fans left to join other fandoms. (Heck Junsu’s solo MVs received more views in a day then the new JYJ MV (not blaming anyone)).
And dear………all fandoms in Korea hate CJes, whether it is JYJ fans or solo fans……or even non-JYJ fans. Only international fans like CJes…..
The thing is they can voice their opinions and frustration but they need to think twice before disrespecting another member. Would they like it to see another individual member’s stan calling their bias name? They can like 1 member or 2 members it’s their decision but to blame other members is not right. The other members that they are calling greedy and other names are friends with their bias.
I dislike CJES btw for their amateur organizational skills and management. However I respect that JYJ choose them as partner and I respect that JYJ will choose project and activities on their own , regardless how frustrated I am that they don’t have a full album for so long. Not every international fans love CJES but we need to live with it because JYJ choose them!
As of right now, Junsu probably has the most activities out of them but seeing the messed up marketing plan of CJES, it’s not going anywhere. Jaejoong is probably in between choosing his next project. He can easily make another album but who knows why he’s not doing it. CJes is definitely not the reason for them being hired to do work anyway. Yoochun’s solo album is no where to be found and his movie is not going to be released until next year. So this year honestly, JYJ hasn’t done much but I truly believe it’s their decision to do so. So I’m not even sure why some individual stans are blaming the other members because honestly, they haven’t done much either.
@Killua Lolla
I think it’s misguided to blame anyone. C-jeS is taking direction from the members of JYJ. They try to the best of their abilities to carry out the wishes of the members deciding what they want to do. Because of the continuing ban on their activities, much of the way forward is closed to their efforts. Fans see that this is happening but do not realize that it’s because the doors are still closed to JYJ by and large. I don’t believe it’s that “all Korean fans hate C-jeS” it’s just that it’s a frustration situation, fans get frustrated (I sure get frustrated sometimes!) due to the lack of activity and some fans just want someone other than JYJ to blame. Fans of K-Pop in general and DBSK/JYJ in particular are very used to a lot of activity. So they blame C-jeS, not realizing all of the difficulties going on behind the scenes.
I also believe as you do that JYJ are deciding what they want to do based on what they CAN do. I believe that because of the continuing ban, their options have been severely limited in the areas where they have been active in the past.
@Killua Lolla
“The thing is they can voice their opinions and frustration but they need to think twice before disrespecting another member. Would they like it to see another individual member’s stan calling their bias name? They can like 1 member or 2 members it’s their decision but to blame other members is not right. The other members that they are calling greedy and other names are friends with their bias.”
You’re absolutely right on this. And the anti sentiment was felt. Some Biases don’t know how to love their bias without hating someone ell’s bias, and what’s this getting into fellow JYJ fans’s intentions. Over an Anxious comment ? And It’s so disgusting how they wanted to make it seem like this kind of anxious comment was never under another JYJ member’s artcle but by other fans not Lilibaiyu. If you recall when Junsu’s solo was out, most comemnt first reaction under the artcle, MOST comment were all disappointment not praise and happiness, all were anxious comments about a JYJ Album back then too, does that make them trolls targeting Junsu ? Hell No. They’re just anxious, and were replied too in civil manner. I recall requests to those anxious comments with [please lets show support/let’s not ruin the mood for other fans] sort of like replies, which were decent But recently, under a recent artcle, SOME biases made it look like their bias was the only one to face such a comment, and made it look like he is targeted.
The thing is it’s an anxious comment, but they got into her intentions and made it seem as if she is a troll targeting Jaejoong ? that’s absolutely delusional, just because she’s anxious? She’s not the only one who done it like I reminded you.
If we start going into other fans intentions at this site, this will become ALLkpop all over again.
An old fellow JYJ fan like Lilibaiyu gets talked back as if she was targeting Jaejoong? She HAS no ill intentions towards Jaejoong, hope some certain biases leave her alone if they can’t talk decently to her about her anxious comment. But instead talking about the comment itself, they went personal on all levels. And that’s just wrong and disrespectful.
It hurt me too when that person posted the greedy Junsu comment, why can’t we support all three just like they support each other? Why cant we be kind to each other here? I really think the guys are better off together.
For whatever part I played in the latest melee, I apologize to the Admins and to all of the ladies here on JYJ3. Once again it seems, I have expressed an opinion I had, in my own off-beat way and others, who perhaps don’t know me well and know my deep and abiding feelings about JYJ became whipped into a frenzy. I’m only one person, I don’t believe I’ve ever started a sentence “I speak for many other fans when I say…” My opinions are my own, colored by a lifetime spent in the music business here in the U.S. It certainly brings up an interesting point though that maybe we might discuss here: what exactly constitutes “starting a fanwar?” Because I still don’t know why or even how it happens! I can identify when trolls show up from time to time, say something inflammatory and stupid and then duck out again but that doesn’t “start anything” I don’t think. So what does? Let’s try to piece together what is really going on here.
They got into your intentions.
And showed dislike beyond you, seeing it a chance to target the other two JYJ members, and one was thanking them too instead of standing up for the other two who got dragged in.
No one should complain under an article, a piece of news is a piece of happiness for the fan.
When Junsu’s solo was first announced allot were being fussy over a JYJ Album back then too, and ALLOT. There were also complaints about Yoochun during his vacation, I know so because I was frustrated with so many complaints against Yoochun during his vacation pics. Not a single Junsu fan and not a single Yoochun fan , replied to comments of complain and whining, in a way that drags the other two or one of them. Focus was maid on the demand to please not ruin the happy mood, please support the article through praise not whining. Never dragging another artist name in a jealousy compare feel like comment.
Some biases showed clear hate towards Junsu from under you’re complaint over a JYJ Album, but you’re not the only one who complained about a JYJ Album under a JYJ member article, other fans did it too with Junsu’s second solo announcement.
I personally hope we all learn to enjoy the article and not complain about someone ells’s activity or the entire group Not being in a particular activity when it’s under article section.
I was absolutely disgusted with the type of reaction your comment got. Instead of a friendly request, or a civil demand, some biases went dragging Yoochun and Junsu into their replies on top of getting into you’re inner intentions, as if you’re an anti or something.
Please SOME biases, Please respect the fans of the other two artist here at this site, defend you’re bias without hurting and dragging the other two JYJ members in. There are allot of other methods to reply to someone about you’re upset emotions about what they said, but NEVER accuse and drag the artists who are absent to talk ill about them in an indirect way.
Things could have gone peacefully like how Junsu bias fans dealt with the whining Junsu’s solo received from anxious fans. Please no one lie, we all know allot had been complaining with [ but what about a JYJ album ], ect under more than one Junsu article, but no one was getting into anyone’s intentions or taking it a chance to bite on the other two through it. Those anxious fans comments are no different from Lilibaiyu’s anxious comment under Jaejoon’gs article.
Sometimes this feels a bit like Allkpop.
Hope certain biases understand the rules and not drag the other JYJ members into their angry comments.
@Kalus
Well, perhaps it was just as well I didn’t read any of it because it was all gone by the time I got online this morning. But just to once again re-assure the ladies of JYJ3, I love JYJ, I support them and wish nothing but good things for them. I have exactly ZERO bad intentions towards any of them. I try to do my part to support them and get the word out by various means every single day. Because I am older, perhaps I feel a motherly concern for them from time to time which is expressed and misunderstood here. I am trying to discover the causes of these fan eruptions and I’ll try harder do my part to not unintentionally incite one. But I hope everyone here understands that I do not and will never approve of or participate in fanwars of any kind.
You did not cause a fanwar, Like I said, you’re comment wasn’t the first time to appear. Allot of JYJ fans other than you, have also expressed their anxiousness over a JYJ Album. Like I said when Junsu’s second solo was out, Most of the Comments under the article all had the whining about a JYJ album, they showed disappointment instead of support, But no fanwar was caused because Junsu biases didn’t round up anyone and get into the intentions of other fans. Junsu bias fans basically asked them to please let us enjoy the news, not ruin the mood, that kind of reply.
You Did Nothing to cause a fan war, it’s the replies that showed disgust emotions. How they replied.
This kind of comment you made was said by others and many times before, but not under Jaejoong’s article only, as some wanted to make it seem so.
When Junsu’s second solo album was first announced, allot of fans showed disappointment because it wasn’t an announcement about a JYJ Album, so it’s not being said under Jaejoong article only. Even before Junsu’s solo announcement, Yoochun got allot of complaints under his articles too, like why aren’t you doing you’re solo album chun ect.
All JYJ members, not one, received anxious comments about a JYJ Album, doing something, not doing something ells.
But to me all who have done that are just fans who felt anxious and were not aware how their comment ruins mood for others.
Its not because they have bad intentions.
But when there were a series of comments asking for a JYJ Album, and why isn’t there a JYJ Album and we want a JYJ Album, under Junsu’s articles, there was no fanwars why? Yes there was bitter feelings, the mood was ruined because instead of showing support everyone was fussing about the announcement not being about something ells, not being a JYJ Album in particular back then. So it felt like Junsu was being rejected by the fandom for announcing his second solo when it first was announced. Yes I know fans were anxious for a JYJ album, but the comment section looked like rejection due to their anxious demand for a JYJ Album, and they couldn’t see how their comments looked. and it was still difficult to make them see how those complaints looked, but later there were no more whining. They were not just one fan making an anxious complaint, they were allot of fans.
So it’s NOT you Lilibaiyu, it’s some Biases who replied aggressively, and only some, it’s always the some who ruin it for the majority. They didn’t go about you’re comment , they saw it a chance to go personal instead and showed an ugly face towards the other JYJ members. So you didn’t really cause any fanwar trust me.
JYJ fans are upset about what some replies to you’re comment contained. Replies said by some biases, only some of them, Not all biases are like that though. Stans most likely, They don’t seem to realize this is a JYJ site and talking ill of the other too is taboo.
@lilibayu
Hey Rebel……had some vultures feasting upon your comment about
the album earlier~*
GLORY BE!!!……HAHAHAHA…..fans are nuts 🙂
every word you said was on the hearts and minds…thank you for being stand up..
I think everyone’s feelings just erupted and it really wasn’t about you or your comment. Peeps who worry about Jae got all upset and extra worried, peeps who can’t stand to hear him criticized( even though many pointed out that the comment was not just for JJ but the others as well) lost their freaking minds and went into rage. The rage spread to Junsu and his evil plan to oppress JJ by releasing solo albums, and to CJeS who restrict him cause they hate him. At that point the admins shut the post down, and I think it was the right thing to do. Several peeps tried to throw some sanity on the situation but it was no good. Some posters had their panties not just in a bunch, but completed knotted up and backward.
my sis@Lili
I can not say i did or will 100% agree everything you said, but i know 100% i love you and thankfully have you on JYJ fandom, the first and maybe last group i sticking around for 4 years and more years later. HUgss ^__^
this is blaming game, see when JJ first doing his solo project then doing concert in japan so many people blaming him and winning coz they think he delayed JYJ album but then junsu release his solo album then everyone blaming and winning again,quess this not end untill we got JYJ album,
for me now i wanna be happy for what ever JYJ want to do.
@lyn , yes, Yoochun also got comments like, where’s you’re solo album Yoochun, why acting, he’s not doing anything now.
BUT, those who complain HAVE NO bad intentions. They do not target, and definitely not only one JYJ member as some try to make it seem like.
All 3 got such comments.
Fans who made those comments about JYJ Album ect are fellow JYJ fans. They Do Not have ill intentions, just anxious and they support all 3 so they are not targeting or blaming as it looks to stans.
They simply just don’t see it. When it was during Junsu’s announcement of a second solo, all those fans Couldn’t see how their comments looked like.
They aren’t bad, and did not mean to make Junsu look rejected intentionally. They just couldn’t see how it looked from their comments back then.
So ill intentions ? No. Anyway, it seems fans now are more aware than back then. the problem is when a stan comes by and abuses a fellow JYJ fan’s complaint to target the other two.
Personally I hope no one leaves complaint comments under any article, because It does disturb the happy mood and some stans will play on the strings of hate by abusing it.
@Kalus
“Fans who made those comments about JYJ Album ect are fellow JYJ fans.”
correct and the one who got angry is bias fans, can’t help since JYJ3 visitor not just JYJ fans, somehow i’m wonder how many JYJ fans right now?
“Personally I hope no one leaves complaint comments under any article, because It does disturb the happy mood and some stans will play on the strings of hate by abusing it.”
i think this a warning for us if some fan wanna do the blaming and winning game..do it on ODP instead on one JYJ member solo articel,
@ Lyn Yes, I agree with you, definitely not on any solo article. It also protect the feelings of the fans who go there to forget worries of life. Some fans they just want happiness and those solo articles is their ticket enjoy themselves, once a complaint is made the happy mood is gone.
There was NOTHING, NOTHING WRONG in what you said earlier in the other post. TBH I was thinking the same thing.
@Cincinn
Thanks, cincinn but I think the single bias only fans saw their shot and they took it because I am known to be a staunch defender of all three members. It was an ~opening~ and I take total blame for giving it to them. Without a foolish and ill-advised comment like mine, how would they get a chance to air their many many many grievances in a semi-justified way? I meant for my tone to be of a motherly nature but this as we have seen, was missed in the headlong rush to start the bashing. Anyway, it’s over now and I do like Moony205’s suggestion that from now on we all are far more careful about posting things on articles perceived to a about a single member. I will take her suggestion to heart about the ODP.
Hello lilibaiyu hugs hugs hugs and yes we really know your heart.
@Lili
i did not following the comment on JJ post, and dont really know exact what happen, but following some other comments, i thing i can understand little bit. this happen the same feeling when you comment under YC solo drama or movie post, you asked how about “singing”?? i was little shock but think back I choice to believe your heart love JYJ, I mean included each of them, just maybe you like alot of fans miss the boy together and other thing happen is : as long i respect the boy decision, as long i love each of them doesnt mater they activities solo or group and i really undestand how hard they handle on the music field, but i can feel, see if they will not make regroup soon or later, the JYJ fandom will more big problem,,that what i think you and me and a lot of fans dont want to see it…maybe is this make you little lost patient, sis?….
I am not a Sant, i have my own bias, that why i did not expects everyone have to love equal, but asleast respect each of them, they are same group and love, fighting and spent all hard time together..like JJ said….JS said….YC said…too many time!
I know every group: JJfans, YC fans, JS fans… will have some really bias without thinking or try to understand anything if something relate to their bias even lttle thing,and same time have awesome fans on the group….I not hope change the selffish fans on each group but i hope the fans who have lillte patient, please think back, not take a blame to the whole group or not every time you font a gun to some one will make beter to your bias, your love.
I am vey sad to see alot of who use to be same group, same mind when we was JYJ army, now become the part of our own war.
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I hate fanwar alot… they will destroy the fandom, the source of of only help the boys have left to against all the bad thing happen out there, the boys hang out and doing very good so far with all blood and tears….. but their fan..us…can not.. “sign”
I’m glad you are reflecting yourself. Please don’t take to heart about what I’m going to say you.
Want it or not JYJ fandom consist not only in JYJ’s fans but also solo fans and more. There are many occasions I saw fans ranting that they start disliking JYJ3 because of fans like you, I couln’t help to feel sad we reached to this point. Because I’m more like a silent reader, I have read some of your strong opinions, may I ask you and the rest fans to please moderate yourself when leaving comments? There are several sensitive topics that might start fanwars, why to bring it up in unrelated posts?.
I also don’t know why suddenly you are the only one who can criticize JYJ3’s admins so openly, I think the admins are being kind with you.
@lilibaiyu
My VE Sister, I’m here for you! Lots of love. 😉
I think people should stick to relevant discussions under main articles. It would eliminate so much drama. The ODP is here for a reason. When you want to discuss/whine about something, do it here, out of the way, where it can be engaged by people who want to address it.
It would also help if people thought more before they comment. Everyone doesn’t know everyone here. This website is not an impenetrable bubble. Sometimes the humor, comments, advice, criticisms, will not be received like you are some old friend by everyone. People make that mistake too often. This website is not contained or frequented by simply a few outspoken members. It is an open forum where your past/present comments leave an image. One that people may like, or take offense to. You are writing in public, not on a private blog. I think some have become so used to being accommodated here that they think they can talk like they are at home with no strangers around. This is not the reality of fandom, or of this site. Some have created a false sense of closeness and containment that does not exist.
We should all be mindful of each other. The internet is not a contained forum. Everytime you comment you are writing to the public, thus be prepared for agreement, disagreement, and downright derision.
I love your comment ❤ It is everything I wanted to say said in better words.
@moony205
I agree with all you said , but a stan will still chase even here , get into intention, twist the comment around, and start throwing poison directed at the other two members of JYJ.
So lets ask stans to not show up at ODP since it will contain anxious comments over a JYJ Album, and lets keep the articles Free of Complaint over an activity not being done, so stans who roam the site don’t find it a chance to stab at the other two.
I completely agree with @moony205
@Kalus I’m sorry to say this, but your comment is totally off, Who told you to tell “stans” do not show up in ODP?? Who gave you that authority?? Just because you are frequent commenter it doesn’t mean you can make this kind of statement. Also so far as I know the admin directed Jaejoong Instagram Post to this link. I think their reasons are prety obvious, There are many fans out there that have expressed their discomfort to Lilibaiyu’s opinions, i think this time they and I myself couldn’t hold it up, while I might agree with her about her concerns of the promised JYJ’s album, I do not agree that she started ranting in Jaejoong’s post, I also do not agree how she brings other sensitive topics like Herose’s ex-admin in other post and start calling names to other fans, she also indirectly bashed JYJ3’s admins and so on. I think she crossed the line many times.
+1 to Yae
Some people should stop preaching and finding every single chance to down another group of fans if they are JYJ fans “as self-proclaimed” and want this whole issue to stop as what they are doing now is not helping.
Thank you Yae and Luna.
People think that by driving “stans” away it will solve the problems of this fandom but it is just alienating people more and driving them over the edge. Whether, it is JJ, YC or JS stans…..some are just better at keeping their ‘bashing’ or whatever hidden better than others.
@Yae, Believe me you do not want a Stan to come to Open Discussion Post.
I’m talking about experience, they want only one thing, praise only. BUT, what makes them different from other biases is, Once they see you complain they will attack the other two without reason without call. So keep them happy by leaving them at articles only, not at ODP made for JYJ fans.
JYJ fans can give and take but not a stan. But articles are different my friend, Articles is open for all, and I agree with @Mooney205 said lets keep the articles complaint-free, Not just for the stans happiness but also for the fans happiness. Articles are special for everyone and most people want to enjoy. As for what you said about Lilibaiyu, THERE is no RULE that asked fans to refrain from posting complaints under articles. So you can’t ask Admin of the site to punish her when the rules are not yet broken. Other things you said I don’t know about it, but I told many times, other fans also left complaints under Junsu’s and Yoochun’s articles too and they weren’t by Lilibaiyu. Should admin also punish all those too ?
Please, the thing that recently happen, this time is not caused by Lilibaiyu, it was some stans replies that tried to take it as a chance to attack the other two. They could have replied differently.
IT’s not fair to punish Lilibaiyu over something that could be said in ODP, when the ones who dragged Yoochun and Junsu and hurt the feelings of fans , where they can not say such things under any post, are not punished.
fans went through this annoyance of anxious complaint comments ruining the mood of the article , experience before, and it wasn’t done by Lilibaiyu back then, So this complaint thing is not new nor considered taboo otherwise there would have been a rule of it.
And the ones annoyed by the complaint back then, didn’t ask for anyone to be punished, instead they asked fans to please show more support instead of seeming to reject Junsu’s second solo album announcement. Because most the comments looked like they weren’t happy over Junsu’s album and wanted a JYJ album instead, in other words, rejection.
So you see this has happened before by other people, lets not gang up on Lilibaiyu like a bunch of bullies, when the rules didn’t stop the ones before her from this kind of comments.
In the end, those fans who complained under Junsu’s post, Yoochun’s post and Jaejoong’s all of them, including Lilibaiyu , HAVE no ill intentions. But most people don’t speak to express what bothers them, they stay quiet and then back stab the person once the person is put in a wrong situation. The stans are the ones that should be punished but directing it towards Lilibaiyu is because it’s a chance it seems.
Let’s give punishment where punishment is due, if there is a rule being broken, then that rule is the reason, not a rule that doesn’t exist yet, and you can’t punish someone and leave the others out of it when they had done it too now could you, that would just be un-fair, and where would that leave us ?
Let’s wise up from now on, talk to each other. for one I really don’t want to see complaints under articles from now on, from my experience I couldn’t have my happy mood because of complaints. but another reason now, is stans will abuse the issue, enlarge it, attack other celebs and cause a fan-war, hurting everyone in the process.
@Pheonixiajaejoong
You haven’t tried to speak to a stan did you. You can’t convince them of anything, they already convinced and will attack you for having a different opinion.
You can’t be serious that that kind of person will be open minded to ODP when they are closed minded to begin with. They support one person or one group, but no other. and they are mostly known to bash other celebs without a call for in some cases which often cause fan wars.
There is something called JYJ stans, not just a solo stan, but stans of the whole group, I met them in other sites, they call others celebs horrible names, at a site for kpop idols in general, and this made allot of i-fans hate JYJ and not want to know about them.
Biases are different, Biases are more open minded, can like another solo and another group yet still having a favorite in tact.And they are also sensitive But to an extent.
You haven’t really yet met a real stan. I’m not talking about sensitive biases. you can become a stan momentarily if your a deep bias, but you can also come out of it if you realize it’s a bad direction to hang around those type people. A stan can teach a bias how to hate with time and graduate into a stan eventually, so be careful, don’t agree to their bashing and anti behaviors and protect them, they’ll drag you down with them.
@Kalus
“they will attack the other two without reason without call“
There is always a reason. And I don’t think asking Lilibaiyu to address not only JJ but Js and YC when is related to JYJ’s album was an attack.
”not at ODP made for JYJ fans”
Where did it says ODP is for JYJ’s fans only??
“As for what you said about Lilibaiyu, THERE is no RULE that asked fans to refrain from posting complaints under articles. So you can’t ask Admin of the site to punish her when the rules are not yet broken.”
I have been here since this blog was opened, and let me tell you the admins have banned people for causing fanwars in JYJ3 (this is more like an unwritten rule), they banned ppl that bashed them too. Didn’t I told u Lilibaiyu indirectly bashed JYJ3’s admins.
”this time is not caused by Lilibaiyu, it was some stans replies that tried to take it as a chance to attack the other two. They could have replied differently”
What about both of them are responsible? I mean look at Lilibaiyu she even apologized, I think it’s for a reason she is reflecting her behaviour.
You know, I kind of understand your position, You are more Junsu biased after all and it’s okay because you probably felt attacked too in behalf of your bias. Being JYJ’s fan or not it doesn’t matter because most people will want the best for their bias, including you http://jyj3.net/2013/07/11/info-vote-for-jaejoong-and-junsu-in-the-seoul-international-drama-awards-2013/
@ Yae
When you say, there is no reason ? So you say Junsu and Yoochun got bashed because of a reason ? Yes, the reason is hate, I was saying Stans bash with no reason, they just find the chance to Release and unleash the hidden hate.
And waht’s this treatment towards me ? taking an old link to aim an attacking against me for standing against stans who took it out on two other members ? Did I use this method against you ?
Now how you treated Lilibaiyu, now it’s my turn eh ? You’re type wont stop until you gang up against every other fan at this site one by one. I’m not the one who said Yoochun and Junsu take away their hyung’s activities, then tried to cover it up like it was never said, it’s you who protects those type of fans.
You had all chances to speak to lilibaiyu before, but you chose this time to speak, to try get rid of her, it’s a chance since confusion is in the air. Now it’s a chance to get her kicked out using her comment as evidence. Forgetting all about the ones who’s hate reached the other two JYJ members.
This is the method you use to get rid of fans at this site ? Here you are trying to attack me because you disliked what I said about stans ?
You want stans to nest here so they can bash the other two freely ?
If that happens then Junsu and Yoochun will be demonized by the same stans that contained replies demonizing the two. Is that’s what you want ?
Problem with you @ Yae is you, Pheonixijaejoong and @junchul is, you change the main subject , and you show half the story to deceive fans, Like junchul tried to play on others emotions forgetting that Jaejoong stans had used the same attacking methods to make Junsu and Yoochun look like demons back during the Heroes memory thing issue.
When I speak about stans, @Pheonixijaejoong tried to change the subject into Jaejoong fans when she tried to make it seem that there was no abusive comments against the other two members before that. and Like you Yae you want to open another issue, should we really talk about that now ? the thing is you three try to cover up for stans. Got into Lilibaiyu’s intention over her comment and now trying that same method with me .
Who’s next ? who’s your next target you’re going to go into their intentions behind their comemnts too huh? I uncovered you’re type , fans now should know how you stans work together to cause confusion, demonetization, victimization, attach, gang bullying , and then go fuss fuss to ask the admin to kick JYJ fans. I think you read my comment, that I did vote, for Jaejoong the same amount I did for Junsu, Did you vote for Junsu ? And I did congratulate Jaejoong for his OST victory so what are you really trying to pull here, because you’re starting to act exactly like a stan.
Kalus lets help bury this conversation by not responding and allow administration to remove it as this is now becoming very how can I put this nicely irritating enough is enough as this is no longer a healthy conversation just finger pointing we get it people are hurt and in pain and would like to discuss but this is getting no ware so allow your selves to be healed and wish together for a JYJ album where we can hear the fantastic harmony of JYJ3 so I know no one wants to hear from a old grey fox but as Rodney King would say cant we all just get along… trust me stress kills and I want to live to the next JYJ album save a life no more post of this nature please.
@Kalus
Calm down!! LOL
Why you think all the people that criticized Lilibaiyu are only solo fans??, there were JYJ’s fans with JJ as their bias (like me) upset too.
When i shared that link, i tried to remind you, how certain behaviour is done not only by solo fans, but also by the so called JYJ’s fans with bias. I mean any fan who could read the comment you left in that link would totally misunderstand you for a solo fan that cared only about JS instead of a JYJ’s fan. Even the admins deleted your comment for a reason, I remember this clearly because I warned the admins, sometimes i don’t bother to reply fans, just leave the admins to do their job.
Now related to the solo fans, I prefer to call them like that instead of “stans” like OT5 like to call JYJ’s fans. By the way, It’s weird you who say to be a JYJ’s fan is using this degrating term in JYJ3 O.o
Didn’t I told you “what about both of them share their responsibility”? I didn’t like the reaction of some fans either, but I could totally understand why it happened like that, It’s as if it finally exploded. The comments mostly expressed their criticism to the fans like Lilibaiyu than Cjes, JS or YC, Fans that criticize Jaejoong and his fans openly in a JYJ’s blog, I even joked about “Let’s start the Game of blaming Jaejoong” lol, of course some fans went too far, reason why I think the admin closed that post.
And I agree the blame game happened to Junsu and Yoochun too, but it’s mostly to Jaejoong.
I don’t want to get rid of Lilibaiyu, In fact I’m happy she is reflecting her behaviour, only you think she is completely innocent and defend her more than Lilibaiyu herself, it’s actually funny to see your reaction reading the many comments you left on this post, It’s almost as if you was “attacked” instead of her. I think it’s not only her, the solo fans, but you also must reflect your behaviour. WE ALL need to take @moony205 advise and apply before leaving comments.
Lastly, I don’t like how some fans treat the solo fans, instead of helping them to become in JYJ’s fans, some of you guys are pushing them outside of this blog,
Also some fans think that just because they are frequent commenters in JYJ3, you have more rights to call out other fans and other go more far to even bossy JYJ3’s admins to please your requests.
@Kalus I would appreciate that you stop twisting my words on this page. You do not know me, nor do you know my intentions. Yet, you claim that I am trying to protect haters etc.
Just stop!
I would post more if I had time, but I need to finish my school work essays. I would much rather spend time finishing my essays than writing essays here about useless things.
Please stop blaming me for something I NEVER did.
@kalus who is your called “stan”? Say name? All the comments against lilibaiyu’s comment? Me? Who you labeled me. Becareful girl don’t generlize people
I have said before just because they are many fans have same reactions to lilibiayu comment don’t said them ganging-up her because she is alone. Me too dislike her comment. It’s lilibiayu fault in the first place. from what I read many asked lilibiayu why her didn’t ask the same question to js and yc also. and because they bring js and yc to they comment you labeled them as blablabla when the first one who bring the jyj member is lilibiayu. Did you read lilibiayu comment? because you already have a sentiment feeling to jj fans so you have a tendency only see the negative on jj fans. I have said in my comment before that here in jyj3, many of you already have ill feeling toward jj fans before. Right? Why?
What I dislike is that many of you judged jj fans who was commenting lilibiayu as blablablabla and forget that the first who make this is her. Especially you kalus, if you dislike they comment don’t labeled or judged them or me as blablablabla. Everyone have different way to react to something, you have you way and i have my way. Yes jj fans react to lilibiayu comment is harsh for some of you but don’t labeled them.
Who is the changed the main subject? From what I see is you that bringing js and yc and make jj fans like talking bad about js and yc.
Maybe I just don’t understand it so someone explain it to me in simple words because I seem to have lost my brain marbles ?____?
In that post:
1. Most were just asking the OP why it was posted in a JJ instagram post……it could have been posted in the ODP or a JYJ post instead. Tbh I would understand it more if JJ had announced an album or activity and there was complaining then instead of that very random post. (I am not calling the OP an anti – she just didn’t think it through)
2. A part of the OP’s comment was that JYJ had already said that they would have an album out in the summer…….and then later changed it to the end of the year. Most fans were just asking why the OP was asking in a JJ post because JJ had never made a statement this year about a JYJ album that I remember – it was JS and then YC later who announced it…..and they are the ones who ended up having individual activities. Of course, fans would understand complaining if JJ SAID there was going to be a JYJ album and then ended up having solo activities. (Us fans would be confused to).
I agree that some harsh tones were used……or maybe it is just the internet and words so some tone sounded harsh?
I am just confused why people think that post consisted of people bashing the other JYJ members? No one called them greedy or selfish etc……they just stated that it was them who had originally given us the hope that JYJ’s album would be released this year.
I really want to understand why people were so offended so please explain it to me? TY
Also, regarding the JYJ album………unless it happens before YC’s movie filming I hope it does not happen. Those guys drive me crazy when they have too many activities at once and are aiming to ruin their health =_____= I still shudder at the memories of that time YC was balancing crazy SKKS filming and the tour X__________x And when JJ was literally starving himself during Dr. Jin so he could sleep instead. The JYJ album is not worth their health.
And on another note………it is just speculation on my part…………..but maybe Junsu is having so many solo activities without taking a break because the army deadline is approaching and he needs to fund the hotel project his father wants to run, which is REALLY expensive…..and has not been fully paid yet?
What exactly are you trying to imply,
” Most fans were just asking why the OP was asking in a JJ post because JJ had never made a statement this year about a JYJ album that I remember – it was JS and then YC later who announced it…”
Don’t try defend what some stans were implying and clearly stated.
First the comment never contained Jaejoong’s name. It was under a Jaejoong post and not asking Jaejoong by name, but asked JYJ in plural, so she DID ask them all, not one as you and others tried to imply.
Second can’t you see how you’re asking the so called blame be shifted from Jaejoong and placed on Junsu and Yoochun instead ? that is what their comments were implying.
Also one of them said, and DO NOT LIE, she said something about Jaejoong being banned because of C-jes AND the other two members taking activity away from Jaejoong.
The two members taking activity from Jaejoong ?
A Stan clearly stated a direct blame on Yoochun and Junsu so don’t try make them seem like helpless innocent victims.
They victimize not victims.
Don’t hide their actions to make them look innocent and of no fault. They shifted the discussion to make it seem like the person who was asking about a JYJ Album under Jaejoong’s article , was a troll targeting Jaejoong, the stans were going [Why was this comment made only under a Jaejoong post ] which is disgusting because most JYJ members DID receive complaints by other fans too. Junsu himself, under his article second solo first announcemnt, received a SERIES of comments , not one comment but a flood of comment, demanding a JYJ Album instead of enjoying the article that a second solo has been announced. only a two or three fans were leaving excited posts under the artcle when the majority was fussin. does it make them Anti, having ill intentions, Tagerting only Junsu and only Junsu ? Only stans would make it seem like they did. A fanwar never occured, because some biases know how to deal with the situation when other flame the situation and abuse it. some biases have a tendency to fall in love with abuse, enlarging the situation, and playing victimization game.
Yes, I hate the blame game, but the victimization game is worse.
The victimization game is the game played, who said only Jaejoong post receive this ? what you are playing it. Junsu received it under his post too, and so did Yoochun weeks before Junsu did, so there is no ,Only one, who gets it under his articles.
They all got it , lets not lie to ourselves.
The second thing is going into fans intentions. Twisting their comments. It’s an anxious annoying comment left under Jaejoong’s post like others have done under Junsu’s post and Yoochun’s posts in the past too. But stans dealt with these comments differently from the norm, they made it look like a special comment letf by an anti, and went shifting blame directed at Yoochun and Junsu, then they play all innocent after the victimization game.
Lets please be honest, all members got such comments under their posts, does not make them an anti like stans want to make them look like .
I said before, the fans who left comments of disappointment over Junsu’s second solo announcement article when it was first out, did not have bad intention, they hurt Junsu fans feelings back then. Those fans who done the comments, just couldn’t see how their comments looked like. The one who complained is the same, she simply didn’t see how her comment looked like. Like them, but back then no one got into anyone’s intentions. Some fans replied, asking them to please show support instead of complaint, they didn’t go mafia on them. getting into their intentions, Ganging up, twisting around, accusing, attacking, then coming out of it like they done nothing wrong.
They could have just told her to not ruin the mood for everyone, [ now is not the time to make such a comment, please leave such a comment somewhere ells, ] even Explain to her how her comment looks so other won’t do it. They didn’t need to drag Yoochun and Junsu’s name into the mud, making them seem like they stole activity from their hyung, or even asking her to shift the blame on the other two members.
Sorry, this discussion was supposed to be done with, but you open it , hiding the facts that those stans have said.
They aren’t innocent, and no its not just Jaejoong’s articles that receive complaints Only, but Junsu’s and Yoochun’s articles too also receive it. Enough with the victimization game.
And Yes, enough with complaints under articles, fans go to these articles to enjoy the news not hear a complaint. I have asked fans under Junsu’s post to not complain about JYJ album under his second solo announcement, So it’s not just you my friend who has been annoyed by a complaint comment. Unlike you, I read a series of complaints, like they were not happy about Junsu making a second album. Put yourself in my shoes and understand that I do know how Jaejoong fans feel. That I too got angry and replied, It’s the stans way of replying that I don’t get.
It’s the stans reply that got JYJ fans upset, Not the normal replies to the anxious comment.
Yeah, you can reply to show disapproval, but once the comment contains negative and anti sentiment towards the other two, asking blame be placed on the others, saying stuff like, they take his activity from him, talking ill of them, making them look like thieves who stole his activities away, and left him with nothing, THAT kind of talk, That’s What the fans were upset about, not the other replies made, but those kind of replies, you seem like you really didn’t know what went on.
“What exactly are you trying to imply,”
lol I am not ‘implying’ anything……just stating facts. If you want to read into my comment than read into it….I can’t stop you.
“First the comment never contained Jaejoong’s name. It was under a Jaejoong post and not asking Jaejoong by name, but asked JYJ in plural, so she DID ask them all, not one as you and others tried to imply. ”
Yes, I agree that it was asking JYJ…the problem was just the misplacement of the comment. But tbh unlike the OP I LIKE that JJ is updating us with his ‘useless’ ‘non-JYJ-album-making’ ‘leisurely’ activities. It is better than nothing. I actually wish YC would gift Chunsas with these random awesome videos too. Both our fandoms are starved and wandering in a desert. TT_____TT
“Second can’t you see how you’re asking the so called blame be shifted from Jaejoong and placed on Junsu and Yoochun instead ? that is what their comments were implying.”
lol I am not blaming YC and JS for anything EXCEPT the fact that they gave us hope that their will be a JYJ album which is not he case. I would rather they not say ANYTHING at all if they are unsure. If you want to construe this as bashing it is up to you to. I don’t know why the JYJ album was not released and neither did I say I knew or that because JS and YC are greedy/selfish and that is why it was not released. And neither did ANY fan in that post. YOU are the one that decided to read it as that way.
If you follow YG fandom then you will realize that YG fans treat YG’s press releases for group activities as a joke most of the time because he does not deliver. STILL they are YG fans.
“Also one of them said, and DO NOT LIE, she said something about Jaejoong being banned because of C-jes AND the other two members taking activity away from Jaejoong.”
I don’t remember this comment. I may have skimmed over it. If there was such a comment than it is up to ‘non-stans’ to call that person out. Did all those posters agree with this persons written opinion? Where is your proof? Simply, it is wrong to use this one commenters opinion to represent all individual fans in a negative light.
“They victimize not victims.”
There are no ‘victims’ and ‘victimizers’. One OP posted something and people just gave their reason for disagreeing with it. We are all in the same damn fandom even though some of us cannot stand others…but we have to get over it. In the end we are all random people who only have opinions, and the ONLY way we can really contribute to JYJ is by buying stuff.
There are people who called out lill in that post by connecting it to previous comments she made and stuff….for them I also say they should not have done that in that post EITHER. If they have a problem with a specific person and her comments discuss it in the ODP TOO.
I can’t stand the queen b clique attitude anyways. We are all fans with just opinions there should be no fans of other fans =____= In this way if she was being called out she had the right to defend herself…… why the hell were some people treating it as though they were the ones insulted and took it more personally than she did. I do know there are friends in this fandom, but still if she posted something then her friends could have supported and agreed with her. Why bash others on her behalf? It just leaves a bitter taste.
“Don’t hide their actions to make them look innocent and of no fault. They shifted the discussion to make it seem like the person who was asking about a JYJ Album under Jaejoong’s article , was a troll targeting Jaejoong, the stans were going [Why was this comment made only under a Jaejoong post ] which is disgusting because most JYJ members DID receive complaints by other fans too. Junsu himself, under his article second solo first announcemnt, received a SERIES of comments , not one comment but a flood of comment, demanding a JYJ Album instead of enjoying the article that a second solo has been announced. only a two or three fans were leaving excited posts under the artcle when the majority was fussin. does it make them Anti, having ill intentions, Tagerting only Junsu and only Junsu ? Only stans would make it seem like they did. A fanwar never occured, because some biases know how to deal with the situation when other flame the situation and abuse it. some biases have a tendency to fall in love with abuse, enlarging the situation, and playing victimization game.”
Now, I will say I am not hiding any ‘actions’. I, myself, requested the admin to delete lill’s comment and those replying to her so that a happy post will not become unhappy =____=
And in my ORIGINAL comment I already stated that I would COMPLETELY understand if many people were asking “Why is it not a JYJ album?” if JJ announced an individual album on this site. The post in general was just really mis-placed. NO ONE would have called her out if she posted that in ODP or even a JYJ post. I think it is just a lesson for all of us to learn to not put non-topic related comments in ANY post, irregardless, of whose fans we are.
Yes, what you clearly want to say is “JJ fans are all stupid! JJ fans just love creating drama! JJ fans need to learn to shut up! JJ fans are SO delusional! JJ fans are lunatics! Why are JJ fans destroying the peace again? OMG look YC fans and JS fans are the ONLY good ones and know how to control themselves”
——->I basically summed up what you wanted to say. And yeah we get that the people who regularly comment here hate us, so we usually don’t even bother to comment. Because only JS fans and YC fans are sane please enjoy your peace in JYJ3 harrah!
And lol it was not because a person was commenting in a JJ article about JYJ album it was BECAUSE of the way she worded it. Let me remind you that she said something like “I would prefer they stop wasting their time doing ‘leisurely’ activities and give us a JYJ album”. The reason fans ‘over-exaggerated’ is because the one in question who was doing leisurely activities was JJ – because he was playing golf. Instead she could have said something like “Jaejoong I hope the music videos you posted are hinting at a JYJ album – I am waiting” or something. It all has to do with how one chooses to word things.
The THING I mostly have a problem with is you and others lumping all JJ fans together like we all share one brain and do not have our own opinions about anything. Like we ALL made comments in that post that ‘bashed’ people according to you.
“The victimization game is the game played, who said only Jaejoong post receive this ? what you are playing it. Junsu received it under his post too, and so did Yoochun weeks before Junsu did, so there is no ,Only one, who gets it under his articles.”
Again, it is the words that are posted and the context of the comment……more than the fact that it was posted.
“They could have just told her to not ruin the mood for everyone, [ now is not the time to make such a comment, please leave such a comment somewhere ells, ] even Explain to her how her comment looks so other won’t do it.”
I agree with you on this. The original OP’s comment was worded wrongly and in the wrong post……..but those fans could have worded more nicely too.
“They didn’t need to drag Yoochun and Junsu’s name into the mud, making them seem like they stole activity from their hyung, or even asking her to shift the blame on the other two members.”
NO one dragged anyone’s name into the mud =___= This is what you construed from it! JJ fans have never said that JJ’s activities were ‘stolen’ from him.
“Sorry, this discussion was supposed to be done with, but you open it , hiding the facts that those stans have said.”
You posted LONG posts in this ODP like 4-6 times…….saying the same thing……so it seems you are the one that is not done with it.
“And Yes, enough with complaints under articles, fans go to these articles to enjoy the news not hear a complaint. I have asked fans under Junsu’s post to not complain about JYJ album under his second solo announcement, So it’s not just you my friend who has been annoyed by a complaint comment. Unlike you, I read a series of complaints, like they were not happy about Junsu making a second album. Put yourself in my shoes and understand that I do know how Jaejoong fans feel. That I too got angry and replied, It’s the stans way of replying that I don’t get.”
I am sorry you felt that way. All fans should be smarter where and what they post…….as comment history also becomes a source for bashing that person.
I didn’t say Jaejoong fans, Now you’re putting it out of my mouth.
I said stans have dragged the other two’s name into the mud. I said SOME biases.
You after all you read do not think what they said was dragging into the mud ? We read the part where those stans blamed Yoochun and Junsu in a way that gave the idea they stole activity from their hyung. When They said they took activities from their hyung , They’re are saying they stole it, they said it in a sentiment that criminalizes the two.
You quoted:
“Also one of them said, and DO NOT LIE, she said something about Jaejoong being banned because of C-jes AND the other two members taking activity away from Jaejoong.”
I don’t remember this comment. I may have skimmed over it. If there was such a comment than it is up to ‘non-stans’ to call that person out. Did all those posters agree with this persons written opinion? Where is your proof? Simply, it is wrong to use this one commenters opinion to represent all individual fans in a negative light. ”
Here’s you’re problem, YOU didn’t read that part. Then you make it all seem like nothing happened. That’s covering it up if you knew the truth, and if not, then I think she is the second one who posted, if I’m not mistaken. or the third. You say proof ? I believe others also read that line about Jaejoong not having activities because C-jes hate him or ban him and the other members TOOK activities from him. I read but I don’t recall the exact words used, I’m giving you the explanation ,the summery of it, the SUMMERY.
Sorry If I misunderstood you, but you’re comment give stans a protection they don’t deserve.
This way, if you protect them, they’ll feel safe here and attack everyone ells, They’ll kick JYJ fans out and nest here alone.
Why admin closed the comments ? Because those stans can’t handle a comment said under a member’s articles, that has been said many times before under other members articles. Why is it those comment weren’t closed when it was under the other twos articles ? because no one fussed over those comments. But unfortunately stans from other sites came here, fussed over a comment not considered taboo. and forced the admins to close the comment section.
Do you know now.
Stans found this place, effecting thoughts of some biases here convincing them with poison, they don’t defend the other two anymore.
stans bring the other two members names in a way to make them seem evil, while their bias is victimized by his dongsaes, they give this idea in their replies. I could care less for C-jes, but why the other two are viewed as devils and one is viewed as weak helpless victim. It’s THEM who view Jaejoong and the other two like that, not JYJ fans, and they are not shy about saying it in this site either. The admin had to close the comment section because of them, not because of a comment that never stirred a fan war before.
wake up, don’t defend or cover up for them. If you really don’t know what they were doing, then now you know.
+1 to PheonixiaJJ
The victimizing seems to come from her alone as in EVERY SINGLE long posts of hers are repetitive comments on how irritating JJ fans are and how sane her own kind are.
Of course, her repeating usage of the word STAN STAN STAN…. Which is originally used by ot5 as degrading words on JYJ fans.
I am fascinated with the fact that the same meaning in all her posts can be conjured up in so many different ways by her. LOL
@Luna LOL, again get it through you’re head. I and no one ells said anything about Jaejoong fans. We said SOME Bias fans and Stans who Happen to be Jaejoong fans, it’s like when you say Some Bias fans who happen to be Junsu fans or Stan fans who happen to be Junsu fans. Delusional much, sorry to say that, but you and your other gang of friends seem to like to stick to the idea that someone here is refering to a Jaejoong fan instead of a stan and Some Bias going anti.
Do you want me to lie and say that those anti comments were said by Jaejoong fans ? Get it through you’re head Jaejoong stans exist otherwise there would not have been any abusive comments towards the other two. fine call them anti-Junsu fans and Anti-Yoochun fans who happen to be Jaejoong bias, it’s like when I say an anti-Jaejoong fan who happens to be a Junsu or Yoochun bias. Does that mean I was refering to Yoochun fans or Junsu fans ?
I feel like I’m talking with little kids who haven’t grown a brain yet.The bottom line is, there are fans who are Stans,or SOME biases who went anti against Yoochun and Junsu in a recent comment , then they come to ODP to cover up their tracks. Using their well known methods of putting words in others mouth , claiming stuff on my behalf I myself haven’t claimed , who said Jaejoong fans ? Stans and SOME biases, is not a whole fandom.
But as always stans love to fuss and make confusion and the next thing you know is they’ll start a fan-war because they tend to drag you into stuff you didn’t say. I didn’t say Jaejoong fans, you’re the ones who keep saying it was them not me.
The sad thing is , is when you don’t know you’re a stan. A Stan is a BIAS who bashes other celebs. I spoke according to what I understand not according to you’re ignorance.
Anyway, how long are you going to keep this up ? Nesting around the site, spiting you’re poison at every chance you get to turn more fans into stans who diss the other two. I think when the Heroes memory thing came out, allot of fans showed a diss towards the other two. How many have you nested around JYJ3 targeting fans’s celebrities at this site? Let other fans here tell you just how much, SOME biases /I call them stans, showed anti sentiment towards Junsu and Yoochun during the Heroes memory thing. So there you go, stans exist, why the hostility trying to cause confusion and bitter feelings as always do when someone one tries to explain to you. You just go all personal, you can’t help it I guess. some one is always you’re enemy eh? some one must be targeting you eh ? Like with Lilibaiyu’s comment gang up and turn it upside down, Its why I have to repeat the posts, to clarify it wasn’t Jaejoong fans that done this to Yoochun and Junsu. When you say Stan you protect the main fandom. But you stans don’t care about anyone’s feelings even if they happen to share you’re same bias, you just want to drag their name it.
Stop defending stans and close up this issue. No one brought the name Jaejoong fans but you and you’re friends. I said stans a million times and said SOME bises. you think with the number of posts I posted you’d pick up on it. Go on and keep living in you’re delusion. I hope you wise up and learn that the world is not conspiring against what you hold dear so relax and go out , have some fun okay ?
You can’t play me kiddo, I dealt with you’re types before.
LOL Kalus, you’re so funny.
You remind me of a kid insisting that she’s all grown up and all but still behaves like a brat.
Now now, take your milk bottle and go play somewhere else.
LOL
Whatever the issue about JYJ Album coming out this year is, it was announced that the album would be released by this year.
For me, it’s not end of the year yet. It’s only September.
I respect all three members’ arrangements on their individual or group activities, and trust CJES would carry out their responsibilities to manage their schedule.
End of the year for me is 31 December 2013. So I won’t say anything until the last day of the year 😀
Cheers everyone 😀
I agree, we still have 4 more months of the year! Maybe we will get a new album for Christmas? I will even be happy with a new album in early spring 2014. Guys if you are taking requests, I really truly would love a soulmate duet? Please?!
Hi Cheryl
Yep! I dont mind if they release the album next year. I just want them to be happy 🙂
We JJ fans have very high tolerance level 😉
We just ignore and move on when we see comments we dont like 😀
Me too! I want them to be happy, I feel they left SM for their freedom and to be happy.
I’m their fan not just for their looks, talent, and sweet personalities, but also because they are brave. They are standing up against a giant company that wants to crush them, and they do it with dignity and grace for the most part.
Lets be inspired by them to rise above nonsense, not wallow in it.
I’m trying to ignore comments I don’t like as well, it’s hard, I need more practice. Lol!
@kalus I have back to read the comment on junsu new album article and yes a lot fans delivered they worry about jyj album but no one blame directly to junsu. they only asked where is jyj album. Many sad about jyj album and feel happy for junsu album at the same time. But lilibayu comment was she put the blame on jyj especially jaejoong (yes because she used “you”) because of he is enjoying his free time. don’t you see it’s funny?? not because jj is having a solo project that is the important think. And many comment against her are not ganging-up, they just have the same reaction and question to her comment. It’s lilibayu fault to leave such comment in the first place. They just reacted to her comment and now they are being judged as “stan”. Please stop judged some bias fans as blablablablabla.
I know that many of you don’t like jj fans. Right? Still remember when jyj3 was acussed as jj bias fan site and many of you complained complained jj fans because too many spazz jj pic in GAPP. And when jj fans union made a statement about accident of jj being acused stealing yc’s cf, many of you still remember the reaction in here? The statement is being asked and jyj3 is critized because sharing that. You judged jj fans union as blablablabla. The last was when ex-admin herose share her memoir dealing with c-jes, the comment in here was also judged her blablablabla. But you called us for playing as a victim. I see this pattern but if you don’t see it maybe because you already had the judgement on jj fans.
Being jj fans is hard. We have problems with yjs fans (the most hated till the point when I meet them don’t hesitate to fight physically, you can judged me also for being violant i don’t care), old tvxq fans who’s persistent to bringing tvxq stuffs to jj events eventhough its already prohibited, green lightstick war and now this hahahahahaha…..
tbh I can’t believe any JJ fans are even left here……?
Those that stay here have a REALLY high tolerance
@junchul
Excuse me, When Junsu’s album was out, instead of leaving excited comments, everyone demanded something ells. That doesn’t look good under the artcle. All I meant is, Jaejoong had the same treatment.
When there is allot of demands or another activity, instead of celebrating the current activity, then the fans reaction looked like rejection towards Junsu’s activity. They wanted something ells. They wanted a JYJ album.
I’m saying this situation occurred before. You’re not fussing over it, That’s my point, fans did not fuss over the complaints for a JYJ album. But recently under Jaejoong’s article, some went overboard, fussing over the complaint, and dragging the names of the other two in a bad way.
and the one below, @pheonixijaejoong , trying to make this into a Jaejoong fans issue, stop twisting around, a Jaejoong fan won’t attack Yoochun or Junsu, that’s another kind of Jaejoong fan, not the normal one.
@junchul
JYJ fans are JYJ fans, they don’t like SOME biases from all fandoms, and not hate biases, only some who speak for themselves not their fandom. Unfortunately the most loudest happen to be Jaejoong bias fans called Jaejoong stans. NOT Jaejoong fans, and NOT Jaejoong biases, there is a difference when you say who happens to be a Jaejoong bias, and when you say bises, and when you say SOME biases too.
Hope Some biases, stop victimizing them’selves like being un-wanted then go play blame game on everyone ells , then coming out of it as the victims when they had enough criminalizing everyone ells then show themselves as abused.
About that Heroes thing, as far as I know, Some Jaejoong stans and SOME biases DID say anti words towards the other two. But just like @pheonixijaejoong did, you too left that part out too, missed it maybe, or you really just didn’t know about that part at all.
Well, the stans seems to have had the same anti sentiment back then, Just like recently they targeted the other two members recently again, through an opening chance they saw. You seem to leave out that part.
Yes, some Jaejoong biases crossed the line, then some of their friends try to cover their tracks. Then change the issue into Jaejoong fans issue ?
No one talked about Jaejoong fans, everyone is upset about what SOME bises/stans said about Yoochun and Junsu.
This is a JYJ fansite why would they take it from a bias who went out of line ? They love Jaejoong but they also love the other two just as much, it’s a red line for them. For any one to go attack other members, is red line.
Some fans you try to reason with them, they go victimize themselves instead of listen.
I really felt for you when you said being ” JJ fans is hard” and mentioned the yjs fans, the tvx5 fans and the light stick war. It makes me sick when I hear about the stuff those yjs fans do. It’s so disgusting and disrespectful, photoshopping JJ and YH into porn. I cant even imagine how it must feel for JJ.
Being a Jaejoong fan is definitely hard when you’re a normal Jaejoong fan, not a stan ready to attack other celebs.
You got the wrong meaning, being a solo fan is okay because all JYJ’s members have solo activities and it can’t be helped they gained solo fans. Other people call them “stans”, but in JYJ Fandom we don’t call them like that because it sounds a derogatory term.
The people that bash the other members and create unfounded rumors are called acgae fans
I also forgot to tell you, the only fans that use “STAN” are mostly OT5, and they like to call us JYJ’s fans= JYJ stans. I don’t think we should start using that term here in JYJ3, it sounds degrading.
The term “Stan” comes from the Eminem song. The song is about a violently crazy Eminem fan who in a fit of drunk rage kills his pregnant girlfriend and himself. Please can we stop calling each other Stan? It’s an awful thing to call someone.
Whew glad I was unable to check out the “war” before the admins closed the comments section.
To me it all boils down to one single universal fact: THIS IS A JYJ site. If you love one member more than the others, I think we can all tolerate that and get along fine. HOWEVER, if you start accusing other members in defense of another member, then you are clearly no longer supporting JYJ as three — a synthesis of Junsu, Yoochun, and Jaejoong when they all come together to become JYJ, the group.
While each of us have equal space in this fansite, please do mind for what purpose JYJ3.net exists. The last time I checked, this is a site to support all three members AS A GROUP.
I have mentioned this before and I am mentioning it again, if you feel that you need to support one member more than the others, expect that you may meet disagreement or dissent, and if you take offense, then maybe it would be better if you went to a site that is dedicated to just that one person? So that there would be no need to continue to defend one member at the expense of another.
“THIS IS A JYJ SITE”
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THIS.
everytime I read Kalus comment..
I want to vomit
I never thought I would be alive to see JYJ fans calling “stans” to other people LOL
now i understand why some people was saying JYJ fans (ot3) are acting like OT5s
i feel shame when i read it..you know ot5 use the word “stan” to insult JYJ fans? but you still use it ..wow
some solo fans can be hateful but some JYJ fans should reflect about your own behavior too
because I’m really seeing some jyj fans acting like these crazy ot5s
PLEASE JUST STOOOOOOOOOOOP WE ALL HERE FOR JYJ EVEN IF EVERYONE HAS A BIAS
please don’t make ot5 and yj’s laugh at us when they see you fight like that it will a party day for them
DEAR KALUS, THIS IS NOT AN ESSAY WRITING CONTEST !!!!!!!!! FINISH OR NOT FINISHED, PASS YOUR PAPER !!!! NOW GO BACK TO YOUR PROPER SEAT !!!!!!!!!!!!
FROM GREYFOX:
trust me stress kills and I want to live to the next JYJ album save a life no more post of this nature please.
If you want to live long, exit, if you want to die young, then continue…
(goingbacktoJaejoongspics)
Yes now post more JJ pics to give long life smile…
Preferably ‘naughty’ pics hahaha >.,<
Is this @PheonixiaJJ 3year ago^^?
if its you, doesn’t mater still same or different opinion, I want to say HI with one of my JYJ3 friend I know on the first time ^^
how are you! long time no see, I think you done school already, right?
hope you are still with JYJ.
If you look at the new pic of him at the premier, you will be so happy. He looks gorgeous and so sexy, fully clothed but still so hot.
Hello @PheonixiaJJ ~ Just wanted to pop-out and say hello. I remembered you had mentioned way back that you were in school, I hope your studies are going well. ^^
@anva1 yep its me ^_____^ Hi back!
Right now I am taking online classes and need to complete like 7 essays (1/unit) T_____T (Bu fighting to me!)
I am moving onto a Masters program hopefully next year ^^
@PheonixiaJJ
wow you are doing good, ^__________^ Pheonixia .. FIGHTING !!!!!!!!
click X and open this http://jyj3.net/2013/09/18/fan-videos-130918-collection-of-jaejoongs-sexy-fan-videos-%E2%99%A5/#comment-857530 🙂
really…. you’re still on with the ” she said , you said .” discussion ?
Do you remember lamb chop a kid show this reminds me of the song. This is the song that never ends it can go on and on my friend some people started it singing it not knowing what it was they will keep on singing it if only just because.. Stuck in you head right
I remember Lamb choppie (that’s what I called her). I and my daughter loved watching her back in the day…..I miis the times when she was young….
yes, still “copy and “paste” and “she said, you said” ..end the end…”sign” …… go to watch our boys Vids maybe better.
Life is such a bore for some~*
Might as well pick a fight……..MEME, I heard what you said and I’m still gon stan for (insert any JYJ member name)
And when the album drops, guess who isn’t getting one??? That’s right cause Im their numero uno fan and you don’t
know them like I do…..I stalks daily Boo
You know whats real~*
Yelp that just happened
I win 🙂
@Pinky Lee
you are very funny and cute ^_________^ you bring smiles come back, sweeter!
@anva1
Thank you
Im glad you were able to smile. Makes for better fandom
*website name change coming soon……..JYJ3.net Republic of the Sad Faces…..just saying~*
Oh, Pinky Lee that was very funny 🙂
The whole thing is absurd. Not wanting to be angry or stressed out over this issue I decided to find it very amusing. The copy-paste thing is hilarious. Let’s follow anva 1’s advice, if someone here is bored and anxious for any reason go watch some old videos of JYJ in youtube. It’s better for mind and soul. Cheer up everybody!. The whole world (and our three wonderful boys) has more serious problems to waste our time this way. Peace and Love!!! (valuable phrase from the 60’s, hehehe)
@Albicat
Indeed….Yall hear that……PEACE AND LOVE~*
Oh my God its turned into Trigun now. NO VASH THE STAMPEDE COMMENTS!!!! 😀
hey ..HEY !!
you trying to start something ? …..let’s go then !!
JJ : stop that …no need to ..
meme : she started it
Pinky: I don’t know what you’re talking about
meme : * punch * …do you know now ?
pinky : * falling dramatically * ..ahhhh~
JJ : PINKY !!!
next episode …will meme’s outburst give the fox pinky the chance she needed to capture Jaejoong ?
I seriously need to go to sleep
Freakin Hilarious!!!
My lumps hurt~*
Thank you for they JYJ comedy hour so needed it… To everyone tune in again tomorrow as we find out did pinky lee achieve her dream or did meme & JYJ ride off with JJ in victory.
Syhh..syhhh..my hubby Chun is sleeping now..stop calling his name..He is tired now after playing golf with me..Okay guys, just stop it with this..enough is enough..everyone let’s go back to our own seat and watching this instead…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_NQoLXacw …
@Kalus
“I said stans have dragged the other two’s name into the mud. I said SOME biases.”
Explain yourself when you said the statements above…if your are not referring to JJ fans as stans then who else besides “two’s name” is an idol for this fandom? C-JeS or LSM or SM? Even though you said some but they are still from JJ’s fandom right?
Stop calling anyone stan here! Just because someone has JJ in their name or DP or spoke up for JJ, they have to be labelled as a stan? This is so rude! My bias is JJ so what? It does not mean I don’t spend on JS & YC. I cried the most for JS amongst JYJ because of what LOEN did before his album was launch. When JYJ3 said vote for YC, I forgo votes for JJ to vote for YC because it was a group strategy, there can only be 1 winner and I celebrated when YC won that poll. I am not going to spend my time, which can be more effectively used to vote like you, arguing aimlessly against the crowd to vote for JJ so that none win in the end. I even saw Jaeharem tweeted to vote for YC at that time. Also, whenever I feel JJ has votes to spare, I went for the other 2, even if there can only be 1 winner, I do not want them to be far behind!
JJ tattooed their names on his body, like idol, like fans, majority of JJ’s fans would support all 3, those who do not, majority do not hate the other 2. If any hatreds ever arise among Jaeharem towards the other 2, it has to be largely due to commenters like yourself. Be responsible for the choice of your words. While I appreciate Lili for reflecting upon herself and apologising openly to stop this saga, I cannot understand nor tolerate you going on forever with long essays here denying what you said and contradicting yourself further with more posts when in a nutshell, you are just beating around the bush to target JJ’s fans in whole or in part. It does not make you any better, in fact, you are worse than any JJ’s fans whom you claimed are anti or stan, at least they spoke up and pointed fingers in the open AS YOU CLAIMED, not in the dark like you.
Now, go think in a corner before you type your next long essay. If you still do not get what I mean, THINK before you RATTLE and remember to remove that stan word via word check if they come out in your essays again – your first step to harmony here.
+1
Thank you Sara for speaking up.
Whew. I hesitated to reply to Kalus because she will definitely write a long essay reply back to me, which is basically saying the same thing over and over again and only emphasizing one thing: JJ fans are lunatics.
I really pray that Kalus reads your comment and reflects on her own behavior before bashing JJ fans like crazy. I wish the bunch of Kalus’ long winded comments established some healthy discussion, but it never does… rather only infuriates other JJ fan JYJ3ers.
As some JJ fan linked her the SIDA post where Kalus made rude comments whining about JS not topping the poll, that JYJ3 admins had to delete in the end, I hope she won’t make me backtrack some of her comments that I found very obnoxious. She often compares JJ or YC with JS, indirectly sniding JJ or YC, once saying “JS is more mature than JJ and YC while they are more ‘adult’ than JS. JS looks at the hope while they keep themselves under depression.” in JS’s graduate study post, and here again she compares JJ fans with JS fans, saying “Behave like JS fans” …..sigh. Kalus keeps on undercutting JJ fans’ morale and getting on their nerves. She says JJ “stans” are not open-minded so they are over-reacting, but Kalus, I think you are the one who is rude enough that makes others have to confront yourself. Reflect on yourself before preaching others, calling them “kiddo” which is very ridiculous.
@Kalus, I think at this time it would be best to not reply or go on with this discussion anymore. It will only lead more to a personal attack ,it is starting to be like that now. I’ve read your comments (in other articles) and i really enjoy reading them so I know that you have good intentions and I understand where you’re coming from. But for this one maybe just let it go and be the bigger person?^^
@ atootsiepops
Thank you for you’re advice, I will not say anymore about the topic, consider it zipped.
At least YOU dear fan, aren’t using my involvement to talk behind my back, in a sarcastic manner with you’re group of friends, to laugh on my expense like some people do, As if I’m not human, As if they are on top of everyone ells’s eithics, but I won’t address them either, let them laugh their butts off for all I care, instead you’re giving me advice and I respect that allot about you, Thank you for showing YOU Are the bigger person here, with you’re decent comment I have no guts to shy away from it. Respect is due where respect is due.
Thanks again, will head you’re advice to heart.
My dear Kalus, I agree with @atootsiepops, I also understand your good intentions but please don’t get tired with this kind of discussion. You are going to get hurt and that’s not good. We need your positive energy and your love for the three boys in more meaningful fights (and sadly with the situation of JYJ in korean music industry those fights come very often). Just let it go and turn the page. Please, cheer up.
@Kalus
Yes I agree with albicat. Just let it go, girl. You cannot change others’ mind in the same way that they can’t change yours 🙂
Though I may not agree with everything you said here, I admire your guts for saying what’s on your mind. If I had that passion still, I would have engaged anyone in a conversation (not an argument). However, that is pointless now.
I remember coming to JYJ3 before, which was like an oasis- people were capable of hearing out others’ opinions without being vitriolic, people can agree to disagree and get along fine. Most of all, people were mature enough to accept differences and set those aside in the name of one cause (JYJ).
I see now that is not the case. anymore 😦
@Jan
Yes, I miss coming to JYJ3 when people were capable of hearing out others’ opinions without being agitated, people can agree to disagree and get along fine and not that easily calling other people “Stan”. Sigh….
Who is that person that keeps on saying “stan, stan, stan, stan, stan, stan, stan”. Gosh… That makes me want to puke..! Seriously.
To me, a stan is a BIAS who spits venom towards others fans’s celebs. I used what I understood, because recently some Biases stated some words that gave a bad image to other JYJ members. I’m a criminal now because I used a word I saw was fitting to call those who strike at other JYJ members. Go misunderstand and find a group of friends and laugh behind my back . Stans is referred to the individuals who dissed other JYJ members. Do you think who disses other JYJ members should be called fellow fan ? or a stan.
whatever they are called, you can’t deny they happen to be biases , they aren’t like regular biases who are friendly, so I used the term to distinguish them. Some sites don’t have a problem with a JYJ fan, they have a problem with a JYJ stan, because a stan isn’t just a bias, but A bias that tends to diss others’s celebs.
Now that I cleared this up for the readers, hope they can understand why it was used in the first place. But fine I wont use it anymore, so lets close it up. or keep opening it , but don’t count me in it anymore, I clarified this enough.
And I’m done with ODP so don’t bother replying to me, thanks.
@Kalus
Have you remember Pierrot, who had successfully fooled the whole JYJ3 community but hated Jaejoong to the bones? I read her litany in SYC after she was blocked here and I was dumbfounded how a previous commenter in JYJ3 could spew bile against Jaejoong and JYJ3 in a public forum. And I was amazed her ability to type lengthy essays, all full of angst and hatred. That person is an example of a “stan”. Hope you don’t carelessly use that term here, unless that Pierrot has made a great comeback, fool everyone for the second time,
@kris
ROFLMAO!!!! 😉
Hello Sapphie 🙂
Be thankful you missed the drama, you’ve saved your face a couple of wrinkles 🙂
Maybe this Kalus person is Pierrot in disguise LOL
@Dante
LMFAO…!!
Hi @Kris,
how are you! ^__^
I have little opinion if you don’t mind!
about @Kalus
you and I maybe disagree or agree with her, she maybe misunderstand word “stan” or not that a other story.
but she is the “Perrios” or herself “Kalus” we don’t know yet. if she is, soon or later we will know, but if she isn’t ?????
that the awfully feeling when you got the hate some thing you didn’t do…
I know this is the internet world, every thing can happen,.. but i hope.. at least our place, where have clear, bright, and justice mind and respect place for all JJfans, YCfans, JSfans and JYJfans on the individual or group fans.
with little comment from me, hopefully don’t make you mad with me ^____^
the end with this topic…will go chat with you in other fun post. ^___^
@anva1
Hello dear, you’re always sweet and polite, how can I get mad at you?
Of course a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I’m just mentioning Pierrot because I think she fits the word “stan” .
But anyway, for a healthy heart, let’s go back to the things that give us a SMILE,
JYJ3 is supposed to be our haven, let’s keep it as that 🙂
@ Kalus
Just let it go girl. This is really not worth your time and effort. You’re only flogging a dead horse.
Phew…… That was some bat shit crazy stuff going on there! I’m glad I missed the actual post that started the whole thing. Welcome back @Phoenixia 😀 It’s great to see you again gorgeous goose girl. ♥ If things continue like this in JYJ3 I might come & join you on Neptune.
Sapphire Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo do not leave please do not get caught in the crazy……
Hahaha thanks @greyfox ^^
lol Sapphire remember I already kidnapped JJ a LONG time ago and brought him to Neptune with moi. Occasionally I let him post twitter selca’s. AND when I am extremely generous I allow him to grace other fans with activities.
*twirls around dramatically and exits*
Oh Phoenixia you’ve been lost in Neptune’s illusory atmosphere for too long!!! But I still love you ♥ 😀 It’s really great to see you back again. *hugs*
ouh..new header..nice one^^ me likey 😀
Thank you @eunheethefrog for the great new banner ^^
(I accidentally wrote that eunheethegrog – think it’s time for me to go to sleep now!)
Pierr…I mean Kalus
I have a new job for you …since you claims you love the JYJ members equally and you are so fair
a Yoosu stan is bashing Jaejoong in twitter right now..even wishing him death
https://twitter.com/yukikakaa
go & defend him
yes, a yoosu stan
although i bet on your parallel world yoosu doesnt have acgaes who hate Jaejoong ….only JJ have “stans” lol
before you justify this girl and say maybe she’s just reacting because some jj “stans” recently bashed YooSu
look at the dates….this girl is insulting Jaejoong since long months ago
I hope you include the hateful yoosu acgaes on your long essays the next time lol
because even some so called jyj fans act as if JJ is the only one who have acgaes..acting as if this is the first time acgaes hate a members of JYJ
Oh my god, I just visited her twitter. Yes, she is a hard core Yoosu fan and this is one of what she sent to Jaejoong twitter:
6 Sep @ bornfreeonekiss: your family all the ugly family ㅋ ㅋ It’s really ugly!
She even photo shopped one of JJ selca and replace JJ head with donkey head. LOL, couldn’t stop laughing, it’s so hilarious, I couldn’t get angry, even though bashing Jaejoong is one thing but bashing his family is way over the limit.
Let’s all report all those kind of fans as spam, regardless who their bias.
On a lighter note, where did that acgae get that Jae photo, I haven’t seen that posted, he’s so sexy in there even if his head turns into a donkey, lol.
I wish that donkey would give me a ride. 😉
What a shame the op of the donkey pic ran out of her medication.
Can we just drop this conversation and have a JYJ kind of day peace can then rain in the family of JYJ as this is making other members uncomfortable. So in the way to prove a point lets not alienate any one as this is again a huge family with different opinions and luckily we still can love and agree on JYJ the most important part.
I miss coming to JYJ3 when people were capable of hearing out others’ opinions without being agitated, people can agree to disagree and get along fine and not that easily calling other people “Stan”. Sigh….
Dear friends and fans of JYJ,
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Why? Because it comes from the best source….your heart!
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Hello jyj family, in my communication class, I chose to talk about JYJ and SM (i just love them so much and will gladely spend the whole semester studying about them lol) but only 4 people in the class know who they are and the others siad they didn’t really care. I am searching for a way to make them interessted in my speech (and maybe turn them to fans too lol) so i thought maybe I can ask you for help. In my first presentation (informative) what do you think I should include? Any ideas for videos or stuff I could use too? Thank you ^_^
Hi Sabrina people love to champion victory break down the story of JYJ and the unfair practices and companies trying to stand in there way you can take them from the beginning to where they are now and then inquire what do you think the next step for them to be and record all answers who knows by them thinking about the solution it actually might stir the souls and hearts of the other students…
I would start off with some of your favorite songs and videos, just clips of course. Then after you lure them in talk about how these talent guys are prohibited from performing in their own country.
If it were my presentation I could start with Mirotic- maybe some of the TV footage? But the video is so hot so too! Impossible to pick.
While it is playing I would present where they came from. Giant red ocean, world biggest fan club, amazing success in Japan…
Then explain about the breakup and the lawsuit (Stand by you as backdrop?)
Then ” The Beginning” album – I would use concert footage for this.
I would show interview footage about being banned
Then maybe something from “In Heaven”
I love the In Heaven video but Pierrot is great too.
Then examples of banishment?
Jeju island, Junsu at para games, the most recent ban from the Inchon games concert.
Of course don’t forget Avex!
Great minds think alike make sure the nasty guy with his disgusting views are thrown in as well so they can see how they are being maligned in every opportunity and fashion leave no stone unturned.
Thank u, i wish i could talk about all of this, but i only have 4min in my speech 😦 and. I am talking about the boys along the semester, so if i talk abt all of that in my first speech (informative) i would have nothing to talk about in the persuisave and argumentative. I need to only inform the audiance but in a way that will catch them all the semester long. If that could help, what is the thing/things when u knew about you instantly became fans and that i can include? *mission: turning class to grp of fans XD*
I like the exerpts of videos 😀 ill try to do that ^^
Ok, sorry I gave you too much! JYJ awesomeness is hard to catch in only 4 minutes! Play the video excerpts while you give informative speech, I think that would be great!
I became a fan in a weird way, i don’t think it will be helpful to you. I saw an EYK review of “Intoxication”, and it was so funny!
I wanted to see more funny stuff so I watched the original video.
” OHMYGAWD! Who is this lovely creature? What is he doing to the floor?!! ”
“He has another video? Tarantellsomething? Let me click on that…”
After I regained consciousness…
That was it for me, I was Junsu’s fan, it was so so so everything!
My heart broke when I realized he had just come to my area, I had missed his concert by 2 weeks!
I found out he had a band, with the adorably funny Yoochun and the frighteningly perfect Jaejoong.
I watched their videos and bought their albums, they were such wonderful singers and the songs were really touching.
I found out about DBSK and the ban.
I really felt for them, I had once left a very difficult situation and my whole life changed. I felt that I could empathize and understand them.
I admired them then for their courage and determination. The way they held their heads up, during the most difficult time. I became so proud of them. I loved them and was their fan for life.
So I’m wondering, most of us are international fans. If you’re like me JYJ and DBSK are not known in your country. Or maybe they are?
How did you ladies and fanmen find out about JYJ? What drew you in? What made you love them?
I would love to know!
I watch Korean movies and came across Ms Ripley the vocals on the main song caught my attention then in studying the actor Park Yoochun I found out about the group after researching and watching funny skits and the entire tragic story I realized what drew me was the vocals and talent what kept me was these amazing young men courage to stand against the odds so I decided to stay and fight with them….
Well, I was reading a manga online and on the bottom had many advertisements and one of them said worlds sexiest voice and looks. I decided to be curious and so clicked on it and it led me to a page talking about what an awesome singer Jaejoong was. I also feel in love with his looks, but I wanted to see for myself, so I used Bing and found JYJ, DBSK, and of course Jaejoong’s solo album. Needless to say after the first song I listened to called Empty, I was hooked. Still can’t get Empty on I tunes though and that is driving me crazy, but I got everything else. I also have DBSK’s greatest hits, but I didn’t know about the whole law suite thing at the time, so don’t hate me. 🙂
@Sabrina
Hi 🙂 What got me into JYJ was the illegal & unethical blocking & how they have been made outcasts of the SK entertainment industry because they stood up & fought for their rights. Maybe in your speech you could point out the parallels between what JYJ is experiencing & what more & more people are experiencing world wide both in their working lives & their personal lives – such as the bullying JYJ is undergoing being silently sanctioned by those in authority & the abandonment of many of their old friends not wanting to know them anymore. Most people get more interested in a topic if they can relate it to their own experience or to people they know, so if you can personalize JYJ for them as much as possible, hopefully that will get their interest. Make JYJ’s story a symbol for the injustices & abuses of power that the rich & powerful, both business & government, are getting away with with impunity. Good luck 😀
Is JYJ releasing their album in the Philippines?
I can’t post anymore. Have I done something to offend someone? Am I banned from the site?
This is the only place I can post. If I’ve said something offensive, please tell me what it was? I can’t refrain from doing something I’m unaware of.
I’m sure this is a technical issue, maybe u can email the admins? Don’t worry I think you are one of the last people on this site to be banned!
Hala unsay nahitabo diri? Nag-away away diay. May pa magpari nalang ka jaejoong, unya ako ang madre Hahahahaha
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