Translator’s @crystalmoon64’s Note: After Junsu sang ‘Hug’ and danced to it, fans started chanting TVXQ so Jaejoong tried to respond to it and wrap it up smoothly. He never said he missed the others or wants reunion. He merely recognized the fans’ feelings. Watch from about 2:30.
[Translation from Korean to English]
“As you feel TVXQ as a memory we do the same. If things work out (among our members) later… It would be nice if we can look back and talk about the fun memories… We debuted 10 years ago… We can talk about this since a long time has passed… Now, let’s moving onto the next song…”
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@Ohmyjunsu’s Comment: The Chinese translator in Beijing distorted what Jaejoong originally said in Korean during his ment.
He did not even say ‘5 다섯’ in Korean, so how did the Chinese translator get ‘我们五个人 / the five of us’? This isn’t a mistake. She’s lying.
Seems like the translator was an OT5. Know your place. You are there as a translator, but instead you use your position to spread delusion.
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UPDATE!
[OT5 Translation from Chinese to English]
Jaejoong: “Like how everyone misses TVXQ, we miss them too. Hope the five of us can stand together on the stage someday.”
Jaejoong: “Singing Hug for us is like how everyone missed TVXQ… If we have this opportunity, we wish we can be together and start all over again..One day we wish we can perform as 5 for everyone… Our hearts has never changed since the beginning”
JYJ3’s Note: As you could see OT5 Translations is really different compared to the translator @crystalmoon64.
Some fans think we hate everything related to TVXQ5 which is not true, TVXQ5 is a beautiful memory to most of us too, because JYJ was part of it. But this doesn’t mean we will spread wrong information to force the reunion.
We JYJ’s fans live in the present, and the current present is JYJ.
Video Credit: Summer via karitaraa
Translation Credit: @crystalmoon64
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Tagged: 2014 JYJ Asia Tour RETURN OF THE KING, 2014 JYJ Concert in Beijing RETURN OF THE KING, Jaejoong, JYJ, TVXQ
JYJ3 
that translator is disgusting, how could she lie about things she’s being paid for as if nothing???
dear admin, thanks for the clarification!
also for all the contributor, translator, @crystalmoon64, @ohmyjunsu, etc
you guys seriously are awesome! clear things at the speed of lights! thank you very much!!! d(^_^)b
I was finding it strange and was the same very words what the fans said and not words Jae could say. It made no sense, for me, to talk about this and he ask to go to the next song in a way as if to change the subject. I also extend the thank to the administrators and translators of the video. Thank you, now I can sleep peacefully.
I agree with u totally. Jyj3 are awesome. Thanks guy.
As new fan of jyj (post lawsuit) i knew their history. I dealt with the hurt that the other party fans hurl at jae n jyj quitely trying not to get into fight. Hate can only promote bigger hate. N half of the time we are not sure what are the real facts that some of the fans claimed to be the truth. As if they are jyj managers or close freinds. That know everything abt jyj. Well they dont know the true facts. So i prefer not to involve in serious fight but just involve sometimes in simple bickering..
I am very happy with jae show of love towards su (remember chocolate roses during valentine day to su) n jae love towards chunnie n visversa. They really love each other n they have move on n very happy. I dont care much about other ‘members’ except su n chunnie. Shld fate allow them to reunite i will accept it if jyj have no problem with it. And if they dont, we are already very happy with each other now. I believe in them to made the correct decision since they already shown us what characther that lies behind those handsome men. Fight for the right things, always keep the faith n hope till the end.
Sorry for the super late reply. Agree with you too. This three mens love each other in the way more that just friends, but like real family and for me this is the important point: their friendship, the love between them and their happiness. ❤
Thank you JYJ3 for clearing this up.
This ‘translator’ should never work again – she totally abused her position. It has cause so much confusion and concern.
As an english speaker only, I am at the mercy of the translations and interpretations.
I want to whole heartedly thank @crystalmoon64, karitaraa and everyone that contributed to this clarification – thank you so much!!
What do you call that crime? you’re hired as a translator but you’re manipulating your translation to feed a certain group’s delusion. lying, twisting the words which you’re supposed to translate, she must be banned as a translator. She has no idea that everything is documented and she’ll be busted eventually, what a shame! and facepalm to those people shaming JYJ and individual fans 😦
Thanks @crystalmoon64 for the trans and @Ohmyjunsu for the supporting comment, JYJ3 Fighting.
Admin thanks . . . more power 🙂
thank you JYJ3 for clearing this up. “TVXQ5 is a beautiful memory to most of us too, because JYJ was part of it. But this doesn’t mean we will spread wrong information to force the reunion.
We JYJ’s fans live in the present, and the current present is JYJ.” NICE SAYING
Thank you very very much lovely JYJ3 team. My sister-in-law is a native Korean speaker and she translated it 99.9% same as crystalmoon64 and ohmyjunsu. Translators should be capable and trustworthy always! JYJ3 only for me forever! We, former K-Cassie and I-Cassie have totally moved on — only JYJ3. If and when, they go on stage again as five, then, we have to search our hearts and be honest to our true feelings. To drink together, be buddies, resume their friendship is perfectly fine with us. We want JYJ3 to be happy and fulfilled, that’s all.
…………………………….*sigh*
I feel bad for the JYJ fans who were there in the concert and had to hear these lies and think these are true because they can’t understand Korean. I hope JYJ will never work with this translator again and Cjes will be more careful from now on and hire a professional not a delusional to JYJ’s future concerts.
And to the translator and all OT5’s who knew the truth but still spread these lies:
Did you enjoy forcing words into JJ’s mouth? Are your beliefs about TVXQ now satisfied and eased by these fake words that you people put in JJ’s mouth?
Thank u admins for posting this and everyone who helped bringing the correct translations.
I have no problem with JYJ want to has a stage as five members as long as they really want it and feel happy. It’s their decision to make. They have grown up and can think what is the best for them. So as a fan, I just support them. ^_^
I can’t deny there was some situations that make me feel dislike to their former members but that’s just my opinion/ point of view. The more important is what JYJ members thinks and feels about what they what. As long as JYJ happy then I’m happy.
The translator should be more careful,some stans are already bashing jaejoong 😦 Btw they’re so cute trying to pronounce chinese.I think Jaejoong didn’t realize but he’s actually using the correct tones for ‘si'(four) and ‘shi'(is/are) so when he said si and shi repetitively, it sounds like he’s saying a famous chinese tougue twister, something like si shi si(four is four), shi shi shi(ten is ten),shi si shi shi si(fourteen is fourteen), si shi shi si shi(forty is forty), all these can only be differentiated using different four tones of chinese, so i find it amazing that jaejoong can spell the first sentence really accurately. O-O. I’m so proud Junsu knows the 4 tones in chinese 🙂 It seems like they did put in effort to learn the language~
SIGH!!!!!!!!I hope it will never happen again.JYJ FIGHTING>love u
Omo! JJ NEVER says he wanted reunion. He just really wanted to wrap it up when fans looked too exited to “HUG” as many fans still remembered the lyrics! Didn’t we see he was embarrassed after fans over-reacted to what he mentioned – TVXQ from YT. That was a history.
Go! Rainbow ocean!! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Thanks so much admin!!
I was confused too. Now everything is clear.
Lucky Peking fans could hear TEN YEARS in the concert. Their mandarin is unexpectedly good.
Yoochun is so lovely and handsome yesterday.
Love JYJ!
OT5 are pathetic & Homin stans are stupid
Just ignore them
So many haters in you tube. Poor Jaejoong. He must be sad now because of the wrong translation. As a fan we must support whatever decision that they choose because they know what the best for them. I truly happy with jyj now. They show to me the different music between them and other kpop artists. Maybe they are not good dancer but they are the best vocal and have so many talent.
& ofc OT5’s are using this mistake to their advantage & twisting everything again… I was having an argument in Back Seat MV on youtube with an OT5 who made it very clear that she doesn’t give a damn about JYJ’s feelings & only cares about her “right” to force her OT5 feels on everyone inc JYJ, & who isn’t going to take a moral or any other kind of stand against SM cause “what good would it do?” to deprive herself of Homin & other sm groups??? Sigh… some peeps are just not worth wasting any time on.
I just wish they could honor the memory and enjoy where they are now, it is ok for the fans to miss the 5 but people must remember all the memories are not good for JYJ there is deep mental scaring. However to want to see their old band mates is not a crime because they were together for so long I just wish I really wish people would not get it twisted and take the song for what it was a very cherished memory…
JYJ3 You Are Awesome ^^ Thank You Very Much ^_____^
Thanks jyj3 admin, and trans: clarification for crystalmoon64 and Ohmyjunsu. That’s a quite relief. Why Jaejoong is still a target to anti-JYJ? 😦 😦 😦
LMAO @ anyone involved in this…” mistranslation “~
did they think people who know Korean wouldn’t notice?
and let me guess ….Jaejoong got the usual pathetic comments of “he loves tvxq and cassiopeia more you stans ” and ” he’s trying to gain sympathy to sell more ” because of this .
this is why emotional attachment is embarrassing to me …. people act like the things they like can never change .and should always be the same because nothing else is goin to amount to it .
nope …just let it go ….the only thing JYJ really need is to not be blocked so they can give everyone else a run for their money .
Wow if that’s the case, the translator surely is the one to be blamed.
Well the translator for the concert said this: 就像大家想念东方神起一样,我们也…and the rest cant be heard. It translates into: just like how everyone missed Dong Bang Shin Ki, we too…
At first I dont think that the translatior they hired specifically for concert would do a misleading translation. Im an overseas chinese and what i wrote above really is what the translator has said. I love both JYJ and TVXQ, and JYJ3 is my fav JYJ’s website. No finger pointing or anything just simply stating out whatever I heard clearly from the korean-chinese translator.
Downside of not knowing how to read korean arghhhhhhh. But anyway thank you guys for clearing things up and lets not bash each other, no fanwars please, and whether they did really admit they missed DBSK or not, lets just bask in the moment that they can finally talk freely about TVXQ and even got Junsu to sing Hug.
OMG!
thank you jyj3!
I don’t understand some OT5, why are they targeting JYJ fans all the time, yes, most of us do respect their memories, yeah, once they were TVXQ/DBSK, ONCE, for five years they have been trying their utmost best to show the world JYJ brand name, to be respected and notice. What some of you did and the translator is unforgiveable, to JJ precious memories of the past and distort it for their own delusional dreams, we all have memories of the past, after all, we are all human, they respect and never forgotten it, so why are you bombarding them with their past, stop it and start treating them has they are. To me you keep blaming us for them not being a five and disregarding homin, we support only three, JYJ, is obvious we would stan, really and truly you need to think were your prioritise lie and look at Homin stans who continuously bash JYJ, why don’t you tackle them instead. This is a new era for JYJ and maybe is time for them to have the own colour light, to show the unity of fans has JYJ. So fans please respect JYJ has a group not has one, but has three, show it by promoting with more banners, in fancam and lights for them, continue to love your bias but respect them as three, after all it is a JYJ concert respect that, no matter how you try to blame one they love each other has three like brothers, respect their wishes and show your love for JYJ, remember you go against one you go against all three. RESPECT JYJ, FIGHTING FOREVER.
Hmm…actually I went to concert yesterday and have been wondering what did Jaejoong say because the screaming during MC talk was too loud to hear them talking. And because of my little korean-study background, I know that the translator didn’t really translate every sentence they said and some of those which been translated are not that accurate.
Thanks a lot for the clarifying. Hope the fans can move forward as the members do.
Anyway, Beijing concert brings me lots of joy and it’s good to know that even the it’s always hard to form red ocean in China, the cheers is quite united. Fans always cheer for JYJ in the first place of which they did several times during the interlude and call member’s name during their solo or as any of them appeared in the video slide that been played when JYJ went to backstage. The only cheer for TVXQ is after they sang ‘HUG’ and I don’t think that’s rude because they only shout after members themselves sang and mentioned about it.
This is my first time watching JYJ concert in China and I believe it will be the only one because I will soon finish my study in Beijing. As a 8-year fan, I will always try to make it to at least one city of their tour in the future and i know that i shall never stop being impressed by their live performance.
JYJ FIGHTING!
Support you JYJ3! If JJ said what the translator said, JYJ won’t pick Ten Years as their Chinese song to sing. The lyrics means everything JYJ wants to say.
“Weak people revenge,
Strong people forgive
Intelligent people ignore” (Albert Einstein)
JYJ are both strong and intelligent. They forgave and they ignore the undeserved attacks.
I wish the fans were more considerate to JYJ, they shouldnt be shouting TVXQ in a JYJ concert. Don’t get me wrong I love the past and the present JYJ but if they are meant to get back together they will. They just havent yet so I wish the fans don’t do this anymore.
Thank you for this admin.
My heart aches for JYJ for being banned to the music programs in their own country. And it keeps on breaking up even more every time they are disrespected/humiliated by some people like they have committed a heinous crime or something for choosing a different path. I hope that these people and those who are going to their up coming concerts/performances in the future, realize that they are only paying for the show itself and not for the souls of these 3 gentlemen. Hence, they deserved to be treated with respect. People, more often than not, think that paying for something gives them the right to control or possess people/things the way they want them to be. JYJ may smile and say nothing but they are still human capable of being hurt by words. It is really rude how some fans kept on chanting their old group name just to satisfy their own greed. These careless fans may think those words are harmless because JYJ are once called by that name. But to the 3, it may be both rose and thorns, I don’t know. I couldn’t even bring my self to say it, it’s like Voldemort to me. There’s just too much pain on that name for me. But JYJ has moved on or is trying to move on. Fans should learn to respect that. Seriously the translator should be thought a lesson and I mean a really hard lesson. I wish CJES would do something about this. There is no excuse for his/her misdemeanor of making such misrepresentations.. She did not only disrespected Jaejoong for putting words in to his mouth, but she disrespected the fans as well for giving false statement depriving us the right to correct and unbiased information.🙊
Oops I got carried away.. Thank you admin and @crystalmoon64 for your hardwork of sharing with us reliable information. 👍
Why should they go back to TVXQ? Jaejoong is very successful in his new image as a rock singer to the point of pushing SM to imitate his concept and create a replica LOL. Yoochun is a full flagged respected actor, his first big screen movie is considered one of the best movies from SK, while SM actors, including current tvxq, struggling pitifully. Junsu is one of the most respected musical actors with endless production of high quality performances.
As JYJ and Yoochun fan I’d say that for actor Park Yoo Chun to go back to SM acting standard is just laughable.
My take is: haters gonna hate, trouble makers are gonna stir it up, people who are fooling only themselves and their fellow dreamers are gonna continue to hope that what they want to happen will happen. Nothing anyone can say or do is going to change that. Although quite possibly, if the comments are hurtful enough to Jaejoong, the guys will get together and decide “No More Mentions about the TVXQ Years, For Any Reason, Ever” because it just stirs the hornet’s nest that OT5s insist on too much. I feel bad for the OT5s at this point actually – I wonder, in their own lives they must have experienced the endings of lots of things – a school year ends, people need to move away and leave a place, romances often come to an end, and on and on. All kinds of endings, some happy, some sad. I wonder – do they also hang on obsessively to these too, do they refuse to face the facts of these endings also?
The facts relating to JYJ are that each member is very happy with the choice they made to leave SM and Homin, from all reports is happy with their choice. None of them want to reunite because there’s been too much water under the bridge at this point for JYJ and Homin of course is still bound in that iron-clad contract with SM, so even if they were dying to do a reunion gig, that’s out of the question for YEARS, at least until they are no longer contractually bound to SM themselves. This is why I just feel bad for OT5s. They didn’t get the info on what’s really going on here, is that it? I hate to think about any alternatives, like them selectively filtering out facts they don’t like. That’s really really sad.
this is shame !!
*I mean why this OT5 did that.
Well , i am an OT5 and a proud one to be honest !! i am really sorry for saying this but i srsly dont give a crap ,jyj did mention tvxq or didnt , the “ot5 translator “*like u say screwd up or not , i dont care , u just stick with ur version , and will stick with mine !! and lets face it ; mine is better !!! hehe u guys r just mad bcz jyj mentions tvxq or jj mentions yunho , or junsu singing ot5 songs , or the FACT THAT JYJ PREFERS RED !! , RED PPL !!!!!! stop hating , for real though !! rn’t u tired!! by doing that u didnt only diss ot5 , tvxq2! stans , but also jyj them selfs , well let me brake it up to u :
jyj was part of tvxq wheather u like it ot not !! , they shared the most amazing memories , laughed together , and cried together , they sweat together , shared a same room together , so dont u dare deny it
true jyj did leave sm , they wanted freedom , and i respect that ! homin stayed bcz of other reasons , and u huys r hating bcz they didnt leave with them ??? ………………………………………………., dont lie , some of u think so !!!
we live in the past u say !!!!!! , it is not that , it is just that we love , honer … etc their amazing friendship that we want to witness it again , is that wrong !! ; damn i dont even know wht i am saying
well let me tell u something , i know this will hurt but i need to get it out of my system : i honestly hate most jyj/homin stans bcz they live in so much hate !! hating each other and the members !! and even us ot5 , and most of u r from after the split era , and dont even know wht is happening , just following !! , cheering : when we say hate , u say tvxq !! , and u do it , !!!! i RESPECT the cassies who turned to stans and who witnessed it happening , i know it must been hard , !!! not knowing who to believe bcz of the soooo many vers !! but when , and if they talk bad , i wil hate too * i said most bcz i know some GOOD FRIENDS STANS OF JYJ AND HOMIN , who dont hate , who respects the other’s choice and wish happiness for the other put they prefere their group , but do u see them killing every one with their eyes and words !! NO
and trust me ,if start talking and dissing and soo , u won’t be able to stop me , accually i am being rather nice today , considering that i am in a good mood hehe
and lastly , i am sorry if i offended u or something , just speaking wht’s on my mind ! and believe it or not i am a loyal follower of jyj3 , bcz u guys r one of the best jyj fan sites out there , so wht i always do is reading the news and not going through the comments bcz i know there will be bashing and stuff ! , and i got a bit sad bcz this site is closing !!
and for the record i started being an OT5 IN 2011/2012 , and i got to know them bcz of jyj first , then tv5xq ! to be honest , well it was rooftop prince that started all this and of course my best friend who is a jj bias and an OT5 and yoochun is probably my bias , well after changmin and jae and yunho , well shit i love them all cant choose lol happy day/ night ,
srsly PEACE !!!!!!
and AKTF, hope till the end
100% sure that this comment will be deleted but I just want to say what I want to say, you will say that this is jyj website then please dont mention any news or related to JYJ mentioning DBSK or any other old pictures of JYJ when they was part of DBSK ,
We are not fooling anyone , as you can see that Junsu sang Hug and Jaejoong smiled and yoochun was remembering the dance moves of Hug ,, why you are some (JYJ) fans making fun of us (Senior fans) and the translator and the JYJ feelings we are not making any stories , you can watch the clips which is real not fake ,, THAT is ALL
You should accept that you are just a new fans , you will not step into some previous fans just because you want to do what you want to do , I always see that some JYJ fans who are making problems first ,,just live your life
Yes JYJ respect their cassie fans and love them why you dont want to accept this fact as if you are the only one loving them
I am an ot5, but above all I love Jaejoong. I’ve been following JYJ3 because you guys are awesome posting news and pics of the three boys.. but I don’t get what’s happening here. I hope this site won’t become a counterpart of truetvxq blog that spread hate towards jyj.
spread love, not hate. If you don’t care about tvxq2 or DB5K, I respect it.
look at JYJ fandom today. it’s a shame. I have never seen such ugly ocean light. what’s green? what’s blue? what’s pink?
why use other fandoms color? are you triple s? elf? sone?
the boys clearly stated they want red, but nuhuh, stans want them green, pink and blue.
what’s with jyj fandom now? I don’t get it. people say they love jj, junso or yoochun, but go on their ways to disrespect their wishes. now guys, tell me, what’s jyj fandom? where did the unity go?
so instead of pointing at ot5 or hating on homin, why not make jyj fandom more solid? why not spend our time and dedication to support jyj?
just us album sales wasn’t their best. but this album is gold with amazing songs. you know why? because individual stans refuse to buy them. You know who bought more? OT5s.
I have high respect for this site, I hope it won’t change.
Why junsu always singing song tvxq…why lightsick red yet….why why why….i love jyj tvxq….whatever they say…not hater like stan….n iam happy (´-ω-`)
By the amount of OT5 comments of once I just think it’s the same person or group.
Facts for @uli, @aishayue, @uaekorea and @didou_cassie:
1- Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu have rights as much as TVXQ! of singing the songs of the era in which they were in this group; TVXQ won fame with 5 members and not only two;
2- Junsu singing songs from TVXQ this year is simply saying to his fans and SM that he has the right to sing such songs;
3- If you have not alreday know, the two remaining members of TVXQ! said that TVXQ! are ONLY THEY, Yunho and Changmin, and nobody else;
4- JYJ’s album was titled ‘JUST US’, not ‘Just us + TVXQ!’;
5- The translator of this show was replaced by another translator, which the show yesterday (Chengdu) Jaejoong praised the good work of the new translator, since he surely knows what the previous translator has done (distorting his words) and still praised the security guards who withdrew as much they can all banners about TVXQ at the show (the rules of not wanted banners of not related to JYJ came from JYJ themselves);
6- Jaejoong only mentioned TVXQ because the fans shouted the FanChants the time right after Junsu sing an part from ‘Hug’;
7- Which leads again THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SING THESE SONGS. You are shouting the name of JYJ in TVXQ! concerts when they are sing the songs of the time they were 5? No, right? So why do you do in JYJ concerts?
8- Yoochun in an interview made it clear that came a time when he hated Yunho and Changmin, but today learned to forgive / forget. Clearly their friendship ended with the process. Jaejoong and Yunho were only polites to mention each and neither left any visible trace of friendship.
9- Jaejoong reaffirmed several times, and more with this tour, that he can not live without Yoochun and Junsu and their friendship of this two is enough for him. Yoochun and Junsu also said the same.
10- Compared to previous albums, this album sold less, but in no way was terrible. How bad is an album to be released three days before the end of the month and stay in first place of sales for July month in Gaon? Did not see it ‘JUST US’ also came in first place in the monthly charts in Japan and in 4 (if I remember correctly) on Billboard? Yes, the album sold well.
There IS NOT TVXQ5 …. there is TVXQ! and JYJ …. and are already pass 5-6 long years for you to understand that.
The JYJ fandom is all broken, full of fights and shit, but that does not give the right to each of you disrespect the work of these three men (nor pretentious JYJ fans and/or acgaes) and understand once and for all that they are JYJ and neither by law nor to SM nor for Yunho and Changmin and not, primarily, for JYJ itself, THEY ARE NOT TVXQ. Today there is only JYJ and the past is the past; memories is to be remembered with nostalgia and pride and that’s all.
Hahaha coriusity of jyjstand…..whatever u say….lets see in facts…
You get something…..let me see let me see….
That’s all you have to say? It was expected that OT5 and YJ’s fans as confronted with facts and reality have nothing to say or defend their untruths stories. The best for you is finding another place to share your thoughts, because here you will only find JYJ fans, nor OT5/YJ.
Yes only jyj fan, not jyj stan like you……u know????? Jyj fan more has good attitude not like stan bad attidute….jyj stan is rudeeee…..ot5 is not all yjs….iam not yjs…build your mind
No, I don’t know. Honestly do not understand what you mean and this conversation has yielded too much. Stan is rude and fan is good? We are in the 5 grade to talk like this? and I’m neither fan nor stan, just a person who appreciates / admires the work of JYJ …. and yes, there is a difference between admiring someone’s work and be a fan (or stan as you want).
Okay ….Whatever you are, I just wanted to say that respect another fan …. because I saw comments2 from top to bottom could be at risk fanwar …. I do not like it, I’ve seen some blogs jyj also sourced from OT5 also .. ..why we do not work together like a mutual symbiosis … so cut no hatred between the one with the other …. so sorry and thank u for your attention