Sungmin_jo Instagram Update:
[PHOTO] MSG 우정팔찌! 우리의 우정은 영원하리 #미친듯이살다가는그날까지 #의리 #친구 #동생 #재중 MSG-JJ #현성MSG-DP #떡봉MSG-BONG #성민MSG-MIN #주영MSG-JY #승윤MSG-DONG #희철 MSG-HEENIM #근수MSG-soo #재규 MSG-JK #창근MSG-c.k #건희MSG-gun #2ndfinger #secondfinger #세컨드핑거 #세컨핑거 #우정팔찌 #레터링팔찌 #다이아에디션 #해머스킨 #네임팔찌 #핸드메이드 #925silver http://instagram.com/p/upuMnuBJDP/
[TRANS] MSG Friendship wristband, our friendship will last forever, until the day we die after living passionately.
M: 미친듯(Mi-chin-deut) As if gone crazy
S: 살다가는(Sal-da-ga-neun) live and die
G: 그날까지(Geu-nal-ggaji) until the day
“Let our friendship last until the day we depart after living crazy life”
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khblds Instagram Update:
[PHOTO] MSG – 미친듯이 살다가는 그날까지 http://instagram.com/p/uqSIf2CQHj
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2nd_finger Instagram Update:
[PHOTO] #diamond #2ndfinger #세컨핑거 #세컨드핑거 #네임반지 #실버반지 #silver #bracelet #이니셜반지 #각인반지 #커플링 #ring #다이아몬드에디션 #레터링팔찌 #커플팔찌 #925silver http://www.2ndfinger.co.kr -korea ,, http://www.cn.2ndfinger.co.kr -china ,, http://www.jp.2ndfinger.co.kr – japan ,, http://www.en.2ndfinger.co.lr -global ,,http://instagram.com/p/up0jBXFD3g/
Source: sungmin_jo, 2nd_finger, khblds @heechulfacts
Translated by: @crystalmoon64
Shared by: JYJ3
JYJ3 
What does ‘MSG’ stand for?
Ok, now I see.
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Did Heechul do or say something against JYJ during lawsuit?
As far as I know, he was the only SM employee who was brave enough to hang out with JYJ even during lawsuit.
Yes, I like him for his guts. He also promote some album (by Han Geng or JJ?) on his radio show.
@Anne
Well he did.
http://jyj3.net/2011/01/24/news-heechuls-interview-in-gq-stirs-up-controversy/
But then again though. People change. Their views change. Maybe friendship with Jaejoong made him view things differently now?
Thank you, that explains a lot. It makes me angry to read someone badmouthing JYJ like that, but I must admit that he didn’t mention them by name, and Jaejoong is still his friend…
Since Jaejoong knows more details than us and is no fool, I’m going to trust his judgement for now.
One of the reasons why a number of JYJ fans disliked Heechul was during the early years of the lawsuit (I can’t remember the exact date but it was during the time when JYJ members started their twitter accounts. I started mine too to follow them).
It first started with an article about Homin embracing Lee Soo Man in one of SM’s functions and showering him with praises. This was followed by Junsu’s tweet about how he thought ‘they’ shared the same feelings but he realised he was wrong. Junsu did not mention any names but fans interpreted that it could have been referring to those two. A TVXQ dancer retaliated by tweeting something about traitors and betrayal which many fans felt were directed at JYJ. This was retweeted by Boa which raised the ire of many JYJ fans. Heechul then tweeted some snide remarks questioning how can ‘slaves’ on slave contracts buy apartments which many JYJ fans felt were targeting at JYJ. Indeed, there was a time when a number of SM artistes were bashing JYJ and JYJ fans were up in arms against them.
For Heechul, I guessed he re-established his friendship with Jaejoong after he came out of the army because SJ members were treated quite badly by SM at one time. Yes, I smirked on behalf of JYJ. It was truly satisfying to see how the tables were turned.
I’m ok with whom Jaejoong chooses to be friends with because he is such a kind and forgiving person. I don’t think the feelings are mutually shared by Junsu and Yoochun because I have not heard of them associating with Heechul. Basically, I’m indifferent to other Kpop groups because JYJ is the only group that I follow.
@jyjpathfinder
We can argue that it actually started with Junsu’s tweet, and it was after Yunho thanked SM in their ‘thanks to’ in their new album. Personally I felt that the whole debacle was filled with passive aggressive stuff and are proof that celebrities should stay away from ambiguous SNS posts.
Heechul’s comment about slave contracts came out in GQ about a month after the above incident. He didn’t tweet it, and in my opinion he said it because he was tired of people calling him a “slave” and he felt that it didn’t apply to him. He has been supporting Hangeng all along (since 2009, even though he was really hurt in the beginning due to Geng’s sudden departure) so it’s weird if he’s suddenly targeting JYJ (in 2011) with his comment, don’t you think?
“I’m ok with whom Jaejoong chooses to be friends with because he is such a kind and forgiving person. I don’t think the feelings are mutually shared by Junsu and Yoochun because I have not heard of them associating with…”
Gotta agree with you on this ^__^
I mean, although they are really close but I think they’ve their own circle of friends.
@Anne
Before the result of the first trail, the most sensitive one, he was like SM is all good, and JYJ are fussing about nothing, like JYJ was making lies about SM being bad and mistreating them. Before the trail verdict one day, this interview on TV came up and he said that crap, saying such a thing on TV could have jeopardized the court ruling when people on TV get the impression that JYJ are lying about SM, so their lawsuit against SM is an ingrate thing done by JYJ. That’s how it looked coming out of Heechul’s mouth, even said something haughty like (I have problems too, you don’t see me causing a fuss) something like that. It was clear he was Attacking JYJ’s lawsuit move against SM. Like filing a lawsuit against you’re love and caring dad, such bad children, must protect papa SM.
But now after JYJ won and after 4 years of still being popular, loved internationally, being ambassadors of stuff like Jeju ect. And SM desprate for Fans cash comeing back into SM, He changed playing the cards. Maybe it’s SM who told him and other SM artists to go kiss and make up so JYJ fans can go and buy SM products again. like, see we all friends again. Good one from Heechul who keeps posting about him and Jaejoong in public (After) JYJ won court rule more than once.
The only SM artist who dared speak kindly about one JYJ member (Before) the court rule (on TV) and (during it) and after it, and never changed his support from the get go was Hiykjae. I don’t know if he is a kissy SM type like Heechul, but, he sure did not sell out his friend to please the company when his friend needed public support on TV, against all the bad media that was going on during those difficult times. And Hiykjae doesn’t go online about his friendship. Like those bowling pics of him and Junsu taken by a saseng fan from afar on the same or second year of JYJ’s lawsuit.
And look Hiykjae don’t use his friend’s name, like posting allot of twitter pics and ect to get his fans attention for Suju and SM, when other Suju members try to stick to Any JYJ member and make it public online. But Standing and Being civil and polite isn’t enough for Suju, they want a bracelet friendship ect to make peace for SM after the attacks method didn’t work.
You think they’d kiss JYJ’s butt now if SM wasn’t losing so much, both in reputation and financially? SM’s desperate to shut The JYJ’s-Fans Mouth and gain their money into SM through the love of Suju, and ect SM idols, who are now all of the sudden showy friends. Why? Friendship? really? You do know SM monitors it’s artists twitter accounts right?, they monitor their artist’s business ventures in the name of (Contract) and if you listened to one of Yoochun’s songs, he talks about feeling caged because they couldn’t do anything without SM’s permission first.
Just saying Heechul is definitely not (someone’s friend) but you know, some Heechul bias fan confused about her own bias fan, will come running defending Heechul’s friendship intentions with Jaejoong, and help her fellow fans warm up to Heechul and Suju and then SM. Love Heechul and go buy his SM products. Or love Jaejoong and Boycott SM products. Hmm, what to choose. ? They got friendship bracelets now? Hmm, oh, lets buy both. That’s how they want to effect Jaejoong’s and JYJ’s fans
SM is a business strategist, it will send Suju and others to flirt with Any JYJ member to get as many fans to come over and buy into their products for the love of bracelet friendship and other Twitter pics proving the love, and how it not bad anymore and no hard feelings ect.
Yeah well SM still bans JYJ from TV so why support SM financially for the sake of Suju bracelet friendship. This showy friendship is allowed by SM for a reason.
Nice points. I didn’t know heechul speak badly of him before. That means even though he appeared to be a wild idol that can speak freely, he’s still a puppet of SM.
@courtney93, “he’s still a puppet of SM” — this statement is still in question. Heechul can be whatever, whoever, wherever he wanna be.
I think sm gives Heechul enough rope on the issues that don’t really matter to give him a reputation of being honest, outspoken & not toeing sm’s company line, so that when real sh*t hits the fan he can defend sm without looking like a company kiss-a** … but that may just be my own personal conspiracy theory!
@Kroon
I don’t mind your opinion(s) because to each their own, but there seem to be quite a few new fans here that believes everything you (and some others) said so I’m just commenting to refute a few of your points:
“Good one from Heechul who keeps posting about him and Jaejoong in public (After) JYJ won court rule more than once.”
No, he did not. Almost all photos/ videos of them were from their mutual friends’ accounts like Hong Seok Chun (on HSC’s birthday), B2ST’s Yong Junhyung (the karaoke instavid), numerous stuff from Gunhee, and weibo.
“And look Hiykjae don’t use his friend’s name, like posting allot of twitter pics and ect to get his fans attention for Suju and SM, when other Suju members try to stick to Any JYJ member and make it public online.”
It’s Hyukjae. And name one Suju member who did that. Please. There were none. In fact, Kyuhyun who is arguably Changmin’s best friend secretly went to watch Junsu’s Dracula musical with Eunhyuk. It was known only because some fans saw him there and posted on instagram. Also, Leeteuk was the one who brought up Junsu’s name on Sukira, reminiscing with Hyukjae.
“They got friendship bracelets now? Hmm, oh, lets buy both.”
“SM is a business strategist, it will send Suju and others to flirt with Any JYJ member to get as many fans to come over and buy into their products for the love of bracelet friendship and other Twitter pics proving the love, and how it not bad anymore and no hard feelings ect.”
These friendship bracelets are not SM products. These are made specifically for their group of friends, hence the term friendship bracelet.
@Iraaa
SM is okay with Suju befriending JYJ right? The same Suju that attacked JYJ the first couple of years since the lawsuit was filed right? but still bans JYJ right?
Friends indeed. As long as SM allows it, so now it’s friendship tact, not the criminalizing tact with JYJ.
Need I remind you all that Heechul spoke against JYJ’s lawsuit act, one day before the first trail took place, one day before the court ruled out it’s first verdict ever. Why? to gain positive feel on SM and negative feel on JYJ, why do that at such a crucial time?
I’m talking about the TV broadcast. And he did tarnish them again in a magazine interview. ( where he made JYJ seem like bad people,only fussing and causing trouble, the same content he said on the TV show that day) I don’t think Heechul was saying an opinion, I think he was rehearsed what to say on his coming interviews. And it wasn’t just Heechul alone that badmouthed JYJ.
Buuuuuuuuuuut if you all want to forgive Heechul/Suju ect and forget, and believe in his honest and kind friendship. Then you all might as well forgive Homin and forget what they said too. Really I don’t have anything against it. You never know what might come next. The next thing that would come up, for all we know, is Homin posting friendship pics about Jaejoong/JYJ next. What would be you’re reaction to that?
You know time heals the heart and all, and Yes,forgiving is better than staying bitter and angry, so why not give Homin the same treatment you give Heechul/Suju today? They’re all on the same boat that’s for sure. Claiming to be friends, then attacking then claiming to be friends again.
Just don’t buy any SM products, don’t be fooled by SM’s tactics, they still ban JYJ so you should still ban SM and that means not buying any Suju products. Let the world know that SM is doing financially bad, hit that company hard by simply not buying anything from them. Because fans are still pissed with this company interfering with JYJ’s broadcast activities/blacklisting JYJ from TV&radio. Don’t help who abuses JYJ.
@Kroon
Dang. This is making me look like an SM stan or something. I’m generally a YG fan, if anything.
Look, Suju didn’t “attack JYJ the first couple of years since the lawsuit was filed”. Sungmin (and by retweeting someone else, Shindong somewhat) did. And it was provoked by Junsu’s tweets. That was the one and only public “attack”. In fact, Leeteuk was doing his best in the beginning to patch things up. I’m more disappointed in so-called Jae’s bff Boa really.
“I’m talking about the TV broadcast.”
You keep mentioning this TV broadcast and I’m trying to search for it because I don’t recall this, links?
“Buuuuuuuuuuut if you all want to forgive Heechul/Suju ect and forget, and believe in his honest and kind friendship. Then you all might as well forgive Homin and forget what they said too. ”
Heechul never directly said anything about JYJ or their situation. He only made vague comments that people (as did I at the time) assumed was about JYJ/ Hangeng. We as fans have no way of knowing if they ever did have a falling out after the injunction, or if their friendship were ever really affected, so I don’t see anything that I personally have to “forgive”.
I was a DB5K fan. But I don’t feel like I needed to “forgive” HoMin for anything at all. Yunho never badmouthed JYJ. And Changmin, I understand what he said because he was hurt and angry. I have never understood fans who called HoMin betrayers or traitors. I would have loved it if they just went “F*** this, let’s bail” and jumped ship with JYJ but they didn’t. As fans, the best we can hope for is that our idols would do what’s best for themselves, and that was what all 5 of them did and that’s why I can say that I support both JYJ leaving and HoMin staying. Of course, now I don’t go out of my way to listen to TVXQ!’s music, or read news about them, or watch their dramas, or watch shows just for them since they were never my biases to begin with but I still support them from afar as people. Now, if we’re talking about Yunho’s FATHER instead, that would be a completely different story because he pisses me off.
“The next thing that would come up, for all we know, is Homin posting friendship pics about Jaejoong/JYJ next. What would be you’re reaction to that?”
I would see it as a good thing. If they are all able to put everything that’s happened behind them, well, props to them. Life’s too short to be bitter. And considering the fact that JYJ has always stated that their beef was with SM and was in no way about HoMin, we should all be pretty cool about it, no?
“Just don’t buy any SM products, don’t be fooled by SM’s tactics, they still ban JYJ so you should still ban SM and that means not buying any Suju products. Let the world know that SM is doing financially bad, hit that company hard by simply not buying anything from them.”
I have never bought any SM products, pre- or post-lawsuit except for AADBSK3 on discount. Also, let’s get it straight, I’m not a Suju fan, but I do like some of the members.
I don’t know if you even read my comment, all I did was refute some of your points but you didn’t say anything about those in your reply so…
I didn’t Know all of this , OMG JYJ went thru alot , and as a post -lawsuit fan, everyday I realise how much JYJ and their fans had went thru in the past , I swear I’m even crying now . But it amaze me how JYJ forgave all of them.
what heechul said about : Kris lawsuit ,taeyong and that guy from exo scandal , and when Jessica was kicked out , and people were pointing the leader taeyong , he went to her show,brought tears to fans and defended her . l thought he was indeed an SM puppet. but I never knew he did that to JYJ . I really wish jae know what he is doing , and I hope heechul is sincere to him now 😦
@jyjfan
SM artists will probably say the same things about those lawsuit filing SM artists the same they said about JYJ when they first filed a lawsuit. Greedy, making a fuss, spoiled brats not wanting to work and behaving inappropriately to papa SM, those ingrates, how dare they, SM made you ect ect. Poor SM is the victim anyone ells is the bully. I wouldn’t be surprised if Suju naming Heechul would go back to their old ways and attack former colleagues. We’ll see. But anyone leaving SM is definitely the right friend. Jessica never talked ill about JYJ, no wonder she filed a lawsuit against SM now, she’s a good girl, unlike Heechul.
What does MSG stand for?
I too now see what it means. I wonder do YC and JS have a bracelet too with JJ. I do not have to have one because it is obvious they share a deep loving friendship but I was just wondering.
they dont have one, but yc and jaejoong tattoo their members name on their chest (yc) and spine bone (jae)
Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu already tattooed their names in each other heart. No need to get bracelet or things to show their bonds.
LoL MSG lololol the meaning is awesome..but ‘MSG’ lolol XD
monosodium glutamate? >.<
hahaha i know, but still makes me cracked…lol
I’m a new fan of JAEJOONG>> I always want his happiness forever!!!
One essay above looks so familiar, I’d read that before but the whole tread was deleted by admin because someone stirred up some sensitive topic and conspiracy theory, LOL
http://jyj3.net/2013/09/24/other-instagram-130925-b2sts-junhyung-shares-a-video-of-jaejoong-and-heechul-singing-for-you/
Why do we have to put too much drama on MSG friendship bracelet ( 😀 monosodium glutamate? like @ai uta , OMG 😀 )
I love the fact the JJ has some people around him outside of work or official business, they hang around for nothing but just for fun, enjoying each other’s company, not for photoshoot or to promote something . At the end of the day, all celebrities are also just another ordinary people, they have their own family and set of friends like us. Jaejoong doesn’t have to live his whole life carrying the grudges brought about by the JYJ/SME lawsuit, it’s only that way that we fans can consider him completely FREE from SM.
it’s not like anyone’s opinion on the subject of his friends matters anyway …. he’s going to befriend or just hang out with whoever he wants .
we don’t have to like any of his friends or associates , they’re not what we’re here for …so who cares .
Exactly, no matter how many times some people rewrite their lengthy narratives in every Jaejoong/Heechul related post, lol
Its JJ who hangs out with his friends, we’re just facing our computers so how can we judge better than him.
Agreed. Arent we the same? I mean we quarrel with our freinds n days later we make up with them. Some might said that quarrel is not a lawsuit since it is something more serious. Put it this way, facing problems some ppl prefer it to be handle silently but some prefer to face it head on. Jyj are the people that handled things head on. Other people might not agree with it but its their choice of handling it. Heck some people mayb dont even acknowledged it is a problem to them. (Like heechul n someone who else…) Fine. Their lifes their choices. Years later they are freinds bcoz they are happy with their choice…(but of coz some might not longer freinds also)
Btw.. jyj members.. 2 of them are O type blood – chunnie n jae, while su is A blood type. O blood type is known as warrior n u dont mess with warrior. A is leader n is more gentle is his approach. Funny to find out that kris n luhan from exo are also O blood type. While hangeng is A type.
N numerology wise, i was told that jae n su according to their real birthday have “mirror ending number” someone born with greatness n chunnie being the mid person in jyj are influenced with it. So the 3 of them help to support each other. Like chunie have said “freinds can be anybody but the real one are these 2” jae “my fixed deposit”. Su “finding one is hard enuf but i am blessed to have 2”..
I am happy fan enuf with their statements…
@ladyjade Idk why I can’t reply your comment,
Junsu isn’t A blood-type, he is B same with Changmin
I totally agree with you, @meme & JYJ ^^v
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Kroon, please calm down. I understand that you are pissed off with these people but I think the best thing JYJ can do is to release quality albums and keep improving as artists. That is it. They aren’t prosecutors or judges (who are the ones who should be doing the right thing). They need to concentrate on themselves. JYJ did what they could but people are just going to believe what they want to.
Please stop with your strategy to “involve” JYJ with Jessica and EXO. Neither Jessica, SNSD or EXO have said or done anything to insinuate that they understand or at least respect JYJ because that is not their problem and the same is true likewise. I am so tired of going through tumblr and reading these misguided and manipulative fans’ attempts at involving JYJ in this drama and having the same old “they are greedy” crap be recycled by people who have never bothered to inform themselves properly about their case. If you are going to use anger and frustration as the fuel for “opening people’s eyes” you can count me out. All you are doing is running in a hamster wheel, tiring yourself out.
I also find your belief that JYJ fans are going to buy crappy Suju and SME albums because Jaejoong and Heechul hang out very condescending and insulting. There are stupid people everywhere in this world, I agree, but if you need those kinds of people to see your point of view then here is a piece of advise: Don’t insult and antagonize. You get more bees with honey than vinegar. You aren’t any more clever than anyone else here so again, calm down.
@meme&JYJ
How funny, yes let the new JYJ fans go buy Suju products (which means to go buy SM products,) why care, indeed. Such a smart fan you and Kris are. Can’t you put aside emotions for once and use you’re head. Who does that pic influence? How many new fans will go buy Suju products of SM because they are friends with Jaejoong?
Oh an @ Kris try not confuse you’re self with who’se you’re bias. Why so upset I unveil Heechul’s true face, Heechul bias much.
Gee, talk about unable to let go. Nothing I said could cause you to hate on the comment. If you want to sleep and let Heechul take advantage of fans. (oh look he loves oppa, he must be a good person I will buy Suju album) don’t care indeed.
It’s fans like you that make it impossible for others to make peace. The perfect wonderful idealistic Kris. wow I’m so envious of you wow.
instead of banning me (like SM does) grow some gut and hear me out, don’t come attack me, gang up on me, that’s what caused the reaction all. Confront don’t run away. I have changed, my language is far more better and so is my heart. It’s just fans like you that go all anti on me because of a condition you and you’re friends put me in. You Kris never respected my feelings when for the first time ever I read Junsu having his first album. And when I point something obvious like (fans don’t go compare between JYJ members) and then I end up ganged up on and banned because what I said is true. Then you wonder why I was hurt and tried to hurt who hurt me? Gee I’m human not a freaking rock. At least I come back to try on reasoning with you, I’m the only one trying to reach out, but you and you’re close friends just attack and attack.
You’re admin uses ban, Can you hate SM for using the ban too? Who confiscated a fellow JYJ’s fan voice? We didn’t come here expecting this treatment. I did change but you never forgive. I voted for Jaejoong just to purify my heart, I never hated him, it was how you treated Junsu then me that made me try hurt you the way you hurt me. But Let me love him again, my God I chose his Song for my name when I first came here, I was JYJ fan I still feel like a JYJ from time to time. When I’m angry I show it, I don’t hide it. All I know I liked him before that ugly day I was unjustly banned because a group of his biases ate me alive then banned me, Do you even confront me? just ban her and shut her up. Yeah right, what good did that do? I’m the only one that isn’t afraid to say I was bad. I tried so many times to apologize. And I won’t ban you if you had stuff to say but stop taunting me and making me angry.
LMAO !! yes it’s funny , do you even read what overly emotional aggressive long ass text you write ?….because it’s non of your business who Jaejoong or any of JYJ do with their lives and it’s non of your business what fans want to do either .
and it also funny how you think it ok for you to be ” human” and say hurtful things about someone and should be forgiven but not for a friend of Jaejoong .
didn’t you get band from JYJ3 before already for going off on people here because you’re completely convinced you’re right and honest and should be heard and whatever …if you’re going to come back here then at least try to change you writing style rather than changing usernames .
this will escalate …..but you don’t seem to learn ….oh well ~
@JYJ&ME
I did change, do I use curse words anymore? I’m trying to make progress because I care to respect you. But you don’t care to respect me. The admin never apologized to me, won’t even admit she was un-fair to me. I wasn’t banned for going off on people. Don’t lie. I know there was this article where an actress was comparing between Jaejoong and Yoochun. And I remember I made a comment on that, that comparison between Jaejoong and Yoochun, the actress is doing is wrong.
Why can’t any of you admit it? after this article, some fans came into my intentions up to the admin, and then the admin closed the comment section. Then fans, Jaejoong fans mainly, went asking the admin to kick me off. But that wasn’t all it. I remember telling the admin about Junsu’s 1st album article comment section, where allot of diss was made on his image regarding his 1st album. Surprisingly I was ignored and All those comments remained on that section for the world to read. So much diss but nothing was deleted by Admin because I wasn’t an important fan.
Then Jaejoong fans went asking for A Jaejoong album, when it was a Junsu album that was announced. Including Kris and others feeling sad about the news because it wasn’t about Jaejoong.
Just before this, I had defended Jaejoong from that saseng scandal, I was one heart with you, but then I discovered you weren’t one heart with us when it was time to show support for Junsu’s 1st album.
It all came down, and I am sure as hell I was banned right after that article where that actress made that comment on comparison.
We never resolved that issue, I wasn’t allowed to speak, I was just accused of starting a fan war, banned, during all that diss pain and betrayal I felt.
The treatment wasn’t fair. The ban wasn’t fair. But what was not fair the most, is how allot of you celebrated me being banned, talked bad about me when I was banned un-able to defend myself. Laughed at me, and you still laugh at me, and point all my demonic points. And while you asked me to behave better with others, I didn’t refuse you, but you never ask you’re self the same question. I worked hard to control myself, my emotions, my language. I didn’t diss you’re advice. But what about some fans on this site? you act not caring about making others feel bitter, you diss them and what they hold dear, only when it’s you’re feelings you feel outraged. Why can’t we ask you to treat others better too? I was very upset that you treated others in a way I didn’t ever treat you, but you were fine with it and roaming the site dissing Yoosu. how many times you diss JYJ fans here and feel victorious that you put them down? having them banned, and talk behind them? When they were on this site too, fellow JYJ fans. you treated them like trolls and anti’s you created hate by hurting them. Just anyone who says an opinion you ready to jump into their intentions, accuse them, change the subject because of a a few sentences that you focus on, dissing the entire main issue of the comment. Sure I was frustrated, but so are many others who received the same treatment. You’re the ones that make everyone on their toes, afraid to voice an opinion on stuff.
And when I come here, isn’t it always others who fire diss and hate first? I’m just the reaction not the action. I’m not trying to change my name, I have no choice because the language you use is (the ban) how can we communicate and solve issues and understand each other, if we keep banning any fellow fan on this site, because you decided she was bad so you’re not going to speak with her? If you talk instead of gang up on her to laugh at her and call her troll. Is someone who cares about JYJ being treated fairly a Troll? Is someone who loved Jaejoong’s song enough she would use his song instead of her bias’s name as her nickname on this site a Troll? Pierrot is a troll? I was wrong, I wasn’t proud on how I made others feel bad. I’m sure I never meant it but I didn’t know how to interact with anyone when I came here. Give me a voice at least, secure my voice and I won’t have to use different names. My biggest mistake was coming to JYJ3 because before you I wasn’t sensitive about loving Jaejoong, but when I come to see news on him, I suddenly see so many others that laughed at my pain.
I started one comment here and look how Kris disses at my comment about Heechul. My comment is right about Heechul even if it’s wrong why diss me? You say take it personally.???? it’s you who took my first comment personal just because that snake Heechul is friends with Jaejoong? So I’m to not say anything about Heechul?
You really don’t think it’s suspicious that Heechul/Suju are suddenly changed ?
I don’t know how to fix my past mistakes but I’m trying. I focus on issues rather on fans, I spoke proper English now, and went a long way to be civil with the same people who stabbed me. And you laughing at me and accusing me all over again doesn’t make things easy for me. And you’re not one or two, you’re a number of the same team who eat me alive. I’m just one, and no one ever defends me when Kris exposes me as Pierrot. All of you on me alone. How am I to progress when others shower me with hate. You only diss me more, shove me out, and expect me to change easily? But then what about you and you’re diss comments, and hurting others feelings and dignity without a care in the world.Many JYJ fans at JYJ3 I saw what you did, it’s not just me you mistreated. If I didn’t care about you’re feelings, then why I try hard to reach out and control myself and try speak to you in a different manner? I do care I don’t want to fight with any of you but suddenly an army starts accusing me and calling me troll , getting into my intentions. When can we have peace? I hurt you, you hurt me, until when? Can I comment under articles without being dissed because of the past? Can Kris and you and others, allow me to have peace at this site? or are you going to keep talking ill to me over my own comments? talk to me civil and I’ll reply to you civil, this I promise. No more dissing me please.
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Aiyooo…. Too long!
@Kroon
Hi 🙂 As far as I was aware you were banned because it was discovered you had a secret twitter account you were using to bash Jaejoong & his fans, which hurt & angered me at the time cause I felt like I was your friend & had defended you numerous times, only to find out you were sneering & laughing at me & my bias behind my back. That said it’s water under the bridge now & I respect & appreciate how hard you’ve worked on yourself, because I know that isn’t easy. Someone famous ( I can’t remember who, Nicki Minaj I think!) recently said in reference to people saying nasty stuff about her that if they don’t know you personally then don’t take it personal. Some people’s opinions of you won’t change but that doesn’t matter cause a) it’s their right to have their own opinion & b) you don’t live for what other people think of you. Try not to take other people’s differing opinions as a personal attack & don’t invest so much emotion or importance to what others say too or about you *hugsyou*
“Let me love him again, my God I chose his Song for my name when I first came here, I was JYJ fan I still feel like a JYJ from time to time.”
…Are you insane?
Also please don’t involve JYJ. You and whoever you fought with are the problem not JYJ. You are freaking crazy!!!! I thought maybe you were a bit militant but after I read your comment I can see you just lost your damn mind.
@Sapphire
No Sapphire that was not the reason I was banned.
I never bashed Jaejoong before that or after it, two times only as a revenge, because I wasn’t at peace, because I wanted to get at that circle of gangsters who teamed up against me and got me banned under false accusation, and got me banned un-fairly, without the chance given to me to defend myself.
After I stayed days protecting Jaejoong’s reputation from that saseng scandal , standing up for him while his own fans were in denial like they were ashamed of him. I’m the one who taught them the term (self-defense) from sasengs, when they cried it wasn’t him. I wasn’t ashamed of Jaejoong like his fans were, I defended him first, after that you all went mimicking me using my words (self-defense).
I gave them guts to face antis turning that case against him. And how did they treat me? So many Jaejoong fans disses Junsu’s image under his first MV article. hurting his reputation for the world to read, as if SM and antis on allkpop weren’t trying to make Junsu look bad for his first solo.
I felt betrayed how a certain group acted like anti’s making fun of Junsu. Was that respecting Junsu-fans feelings on the first album ? instead of congratulating them they were dissing Junsu’s first MV, feeling sad and emo it wasn’t about Jaejoong doing a solo, while laughing at Junsu’s looks and style and MV at the same time. My name was always Pierrot back then, who wrote that song”Pierrot”? Junsu or Jaejoong ? How can I have come to ever hate Jaejoong? Ask you’reself who provoked me. You can’t call you’re self Pierrot and hate the guy who wrote it at the same time. if Use his song when you’re own bias wrote a song in JYJ too, why do that? My feelings are honest I never hide them, when I’m hating I show it, when I’m loving I show it, When I see wrong I talk about it. I don’t have a circle of friends to laugh at someone behind their back, hurting her, dissing her artist, and push her over that made her want to push back.
I never hated Jaejoong, it’s his fans that made me hate him. I used him to get at them, to hurt that group who hurt me, linking my hate to them made Jaejoong pay for it. I’m not proud of what I did, or how I was like in the past. I changed the old me, but slowly I tried hard to forgive them but with difficulty. I don’t hate them anymore, but talking with them ends up ugly.
I’m vengeful by nature it’s a tragic flaw in me among other things. But I’m working on all aspects of my character.
@Sapphire, I’m X , Virgo, too you know. I had you and others make Standup4JYJ site remember. And you’re admin posted my Jaejoong support post. Remember? Let’s “ask for Jaejoong to appear on you show” Task ? I made that for all 3 , Jaejoong , Junsu, and Yoochun. But I left because I didn’t have any leadership skills nor people skills to stay and continue communicating my ideas. The admin allowed my task for Jaejoong to stay for a long time, happy with it. but when it was Junsu’s time, she was quick to have it removed.
I have never revealed that before. But you didn’t know it was me. I was still in pain then, but I wanted to help JYJ members get on TV. Can’t say my effort was good but at least I tried.
I still have problems but each year I progress a great deal. I support JYJ the same way I did when I first came here, with a different character, and a different heart, and a different way of thinking. with no medicine and no one’s help.
I’m doing this for me, not anyone ells. The kind of person I want to be, matter the world to someone fresh out of brainwashing and partially mentally ill because of that. Never having a persona, but able to see other’s persona, what irony. But JYJ’s case is something we all can agree on, something important for me to see, that justice is a real existence, that it can happen, not a fantasy not something to dream about.
I still care to see SM’s un-justice lift off from JYJ, no one expendable. I regret allot of things I done, and wished I could handle some situations differently, the right way, not petty vengeance. I don’t want that path of evil. I was a little evil, it’s true. But I’m fighting it. I don’t want darkness in my life. anyone who personally talks to me , stays in my head, I don’t know how to get rid of them/you/anyone out of my head, I don’t want to think about any of you, but you end up being important for me to have peace with, so I come back trying to speak with you, it just ends up ugly because you either diss others, yoosu, and I try ask you not to do that anymore, but then someone like @Kris won’t let my past mistakes go, shoving them to my face and it wounds me to the bone because I hate my mistakes, I want a guilty-free feel. But you keep punishing me, not one or 2 or 4. it the whole of you. Not once anyone tried to help me get forgiven after I got banned from this site. That’s how cruel certain JYJ fans are. You are cruel.@ Kris is Cruel.
Some of you who were never banned from JYJ3 were cruel, made mistakes too, dissed others artists too, but you walk like queens, never banned,always around to repeat it all over again, too arrogant to face you’re own selves, what you do to others. The guilt too much? is that what scares you that you demonize others, dismiss them as trolls and anti’s and enemies ? Or is feeling victorious satisfies you’re egos?
Most of you who know me, talk to me for the sole purpose of dissing and hurting me, not trying to have peace with me. All bashing and insults and laughter on my expense and so much hate from a whole bunch of you towards me. Dismissing me when I offer peace, when I want peace with you same people who diss and demonize me and accuse me from day one. Are you really fine being that way to someone?
I’m not okay doing that to someone. Trying to be as brave as I can be. You can go not feeling anything, but I go feeling tormented after this post, because confessing is almost impossible thing to do to you’re self, where everyone will come to know bad things about you, things they can’t forgive you for. I don’t want others to know because it shames me to be in that image. I want a pure image of myself, not the one you all saw and come to know me in a horrible way.
But think about me for a bit, aren’t we all, all of us, like this in a way? Don’t we all wish we weren’t that kind of person who acted in a way we don’t like, a way we see ourselves above? Haven’t you spoken about someone or to someone in a vengeful, hateful way too, at some point? Yet don’t care because others were on you’re side too, hating with you, so you wont feel bad and think about it. Could you still be uncaring if they weren’t on you’re side. What is right and wrong if you need others to make you feel what is right and wrong?
Is it right for you to not forgive me @Sapphire because that’s how others at this site made you feel towards me when they are not better, I might even be better than them? Am I evil and cruel in you’re opinion of me? You judge me because you know me? Do you really know me?
Peace @Sapphire. just tell me (gently) if you gonna say anything to me, I don’t expect much from others who already sealed my fate, but I expect kindness from you.
@Kroon
Sweetheart I was trying to be tactful. I don’t hate you & I haven’t been angry with you for a long time. I knew you were Virgo from the start, as did Butterfliesarefree, but neither of us said anything to the others or even to each other until just before you left because we both felt you deserved a second chance. I still feel that way. We all make mistakes, myself included, & I’ve written things in JYJ3 that I’ve later regretted & felt bad about, including calling you out when you were banned. I also didn’t know it was other people in here wanting you banned rather than solely the admins decision, & I don’t feel comfortable with knowing certain people did that to you. Regardless of their reasons for me it feels too much like ganging up on one person & bullying. Like I said, I believe everyone deserves second chances which is why I spoke up in this post. If someone puts their heart & soul out there on the line like you did I don’t feel it’s right for others to laugh at, deride or bully them. What I was trying to say to you was don’t put so much importance on the opinions of people who don’t really know you. At the end of the day you can’t change their opinions. & if you can’t shut them out then maybe don’t read the comments section. Don’t let people who don’t know the real you & who don’t care about you have power over you to hurt you or control you & your emotions. I still care about you & if you want to contact me my email is still mischka24@hotmail.com *hugs*
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I don’t have much time to match up with your writing ability!
Heechul is just whatever. He isn’t great or anything and I think SME is a piece of shit. Jaejoong hanging out with Heechul is his business. All I want is for him and JYJ to keep improving with every project they undertake. That is it. I seriously don’t care about Heechul, Jessica, Red Velvet, BoA, SME rookies & seniors, Yunho or Changmin and maybe a good 90% of JYJ fans feel the same. Calm your tits down you loony-bin!!!!!
you are so right!
That is so sweet
Let JJ be the judge of his own friends. Just be happy for him.
Blacklisted would be a more appropriate term to use than banned in the case of JYJ being denied the opportunity for radio and TV appearances in S. Korea. Banning implies that there has been an official action taken against JYJ; blacklisting, quoting from Wikipedia, implies “that a person has been prevented from having legitimate access to something due to inappropriate covert actions of those who control access.”
“블랙리스트는”다른 사람의 합법적 인 활동을 방지하기 위해 컨트롤에있는 사람에 의해 비밀 행동을 의미한다.
I think they talked.when JYJ left, too much lies surrounded them. Maybe they cleared things up. Jaejoong may have a big forgiving heart, but he isn’t an idiot. He said before that he’d been betrayed by people he trusted… the fact that he still hangs out with heechul, but not with other SM artists who he was once closed to, should mean something. They did have a misunderstanding, misinformation, but I think they talked about it. I think Jaejoong knows Heechul more than we do. Let’s not jump on and judge.
me alegra que JJ Heechul y sus amigos tengan esas pulseras y el hermoso mensage ya dejen el pasado atras, son años dolorosos y no me gusta que vuelvan abrir la herida.
JJ es una persona que no confia tan facilmente en nadie y el muy cuidadoso si el le volvio a dar su confianza y amistad a Heechul me parece bien yo no soy nadie para juzgarlo y el puede tener amistades con los que quiera yo respeto eso.
Ademas Heechul ha tenido los suficientes pantalones para desafiar a SM y mantener su amistad con JJ, no como los otris artistas par de cobardes que les dieron la espalda a JYJ.
En el caso del amigo de Junsu que sigue manteniendo su amistad tambien me alegro pero acuerdense que el YOOSU son mas reservados en su vida privada, y tu crees que JJ dejaria que publiquen mensages sin consultarselo todas las imagenes que publican sus amigos estan bajo el consentimiento de mi JJ.
JYJ fighting JYJ tienen mi apoyo JJ te amo demasiado y quiero que seas feliz mi baby te lo mereces
I guess Heechul just scared shitless of SM. What would happened to him if SM kicked him out? You know, only the ones with huge enough talents would be confidence enough to ditch SM, knowing their great talents would make them success on their own. Well, not many fit in that category.
I don’t think that people who leave SME are necessarily more talented. Yes, JYJ possess talent but that very likely isn’t what they were thinking when they left SME. They were just tired and they have said this before. Looking at the events I can see that they left SME because they were tired of the abusive schedules and the promises of bonuses and no follow-through on SME’s behalf. Otherwise they would have never left.
Take Jessica, she isn’t really someone who has wowed anyone. Her acting exploits were god-awful and she isn’t the best singer or even the prettiest member of her ex-group. Kris isn’t necessarily setting the world on fire either. Granted that Jessica was kicked out but still I find making these kinds of statements and comparisons a bit misguided. Let their fans rip each other a new one. This isn’t JYJ’s business. We have a kick-ass album to look forward to. SME’s stock problems is their own damn fault.
@jyjpathfinder,
I am an ELF here, Wish to clarify that it was Shindong and Sungmin who retweeted Boa’s tweet from Black Beat’s Shim Jaewon and not Heechul.
http://jyj3.net/2011/01/07/news-110107-super-junior%e2%80%99s-sungmin-and-shindong-defend-tvxq-on-xiah-junsu%e2%80%99s-tweet/
@ all jyjers out there,
About Heechul speaking about slave contract, it was referring to SJ renewing their contract
http://www.allkpop.com/article/2011/01/super-juniors-heechul-speaks-out-against-slave-contracts-in-gq
I am not arguing with any of the comments from all the aboved written as I believed you are free to comment your likes and dislike of someone and something (that’s why the comment box is still enabled isn’t it). There are some things which we only know from the surface and alot are hidden from the eyes of public. Whether Heechul is scared shitless or not doesn’t matter to me as I hope no matter where, SJ are still able to perform as one is what matters to me most.
@Moon
Thanks for the clarifying. I have not commented on this site for a long time but there has been a lot of misinformation spread around that I just finally had to comment on this post myself.
@Iraaa
I couldn’t reply to you above so I’m posting my comment here. You mentioned that Heechul’s article in GQ came out a month after the incident but you forget that interviews for magazines are conducted way earlier before the published date.
If you refer to the link that @heheh had posted above on Heechul’s interview, he said, “Of course I have a lot of problems with the company too. But I don’t think I need to complain about it to the public. Honestly, do I make little money? No. They talk about slave contracts all over the place now. But the funny things is, what kind of slave buys building for parents? What kind of slave has a car? What kind of slave has the time to play around drinking?”
If Heechul was just talking about himself, why would he ask the last 3 questions? What was he insinuating? Around that time, there were newspaper articles about JYJ’s apartments and cars. Was it a coincidence? Anyway, his remarks did raise a furore at that time. It was all documented in that link posted by JYJ3 so if you are saying that misinformation has been spread, you are indirectly implicating JYJ3 admins as well.
I did write above that I have no issues with whom Jaejoong chooses to associate with. I was merely replying to Anne above because she was asking a question. I know you have been with JYJ3 site for quite some time but I was also here since the day it started. Many new fans are puzzled why some JYJ fans react negatively when Heechul or Boa are mentioned so it was to clear the air as to why they reacted this way.
@jyjpathfinder
What I meant by misinformation in my reply to @Moon was referring to the things @Moon corrected and also in my reply to @Kroon. I actually replied to your comment above after i replied to Moon here.
Yes, his remarks raised a furore. I did say it was a debacle. And yes, it was probably linked (directly or indirectly) to the situation between Boa and co. against Junsu. But my opinion still stands. It could really be what he was personally feeling, that he himself is not a slave. He was asked this question during the interview and it was also probably asked a lot of other times. Of course, we can say that he’s insinuating stuff about JYJ in particular. But I chose not to because from the very beginning, I’ve thought that he just used the most common examples of how “not a slave” they are = cars and buildings. Plenty of (successful) idols have their own cars and have worked to buy apartments/ buildings/ businesses for their parents and families. And play around drinking? He does that A LOT.
What I was correcting in your comment was that no, he did not tweet it, but said it in his interview. Perhaps my mistake was adding my opinion in the same paragraph. I’m sorry if you felt that I was attacking you in particular.
@Moon @Iraaa
Kinda off topic but since his name was mentioned, can one of you please tell me how to pronounce Kyuhyun?
@Sapphire
Kyu as in queue/ cue and Hyun pronounced as hyoon. Like…swoon? Haha idk if you’ll get that 🙂
Thanks Iraaa 🙂
What does ‘MSG’ mean? I didn’t understand (maeby because english is not my mother tongue? lol) “Message”?
aw ok sorry I didn’t read everything!! ^^””
i’m disappointed with some of u guys though i’m JYJ fan. I didn’t thought u guys would be this immature. JJ is befriending HC until now, even wearing friendship bracelet. He knows Heechul much better than us. why should we judge their friendship and Heechul. He can be really a nice guy that u guys didn’t know before. Just like how my impression of JJ was so cold and arrogant one. But he was actually a warm guy.
Woah, woah. 1st of all there are many opinions here if you actually bother to read them rather than generalize. 2nd, saying you are a JYJ fan doesn’t mean anything. We aren’t a beehive that share one brain. JYJ fans can have differing thoughts if they are willing to back them up. 3rd, Save your “disappointment” for your 3 year old.
There are too many unfamiliar readers here, everyone is claiming to be somebody.
Tbh, I don’t buy most of ’em stories here :p but you are an exception coz you sound like a true JYJ fan.
Anyway, that’s not the point (lol), the point is I love your reply to @khina. Thank you and bravo!
I hate when ppl generalize, that’s just plain unfair.
And this >> “We aren’t a beehive that share one brain. JYJ fans can have differing thoughts…” ;))) so true for JYJ fans are not only one or two.
@Iraaa
Again, I couldn’t find a reply button to what you have written above. Many thanks for clarifying. I respect your views because I’m not a native Korean speaker and many things could have been lost in translation. I followed Twitter a lot and that was where I picked up some angry tweets from Cassies about him so I thought it must be something he tweeted.
I missed the old days when we were free to agree to disagree and still be civil to each other and hold intelligent conversations without bashing. Nowadays, I need to tread very carefully in some threads.
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@Kroon
You do realize that he was basically saying that Kris left at an inconvenient time, right near their concert when the members would have to relearn choreography etc? He only spoke up because they brought up Hangeng and he’s right in saying that Kris’ and Hangeng’s situations were different.
I’m personally more disgusted and concerned by the racism and xenophobia netizens were spewing about Kris and Luhan, but you do you.
Also, Jessica (love her) didn’t file a lawsuit and she’s still technically an SM artist.
@jyjpathfinder
No worries! I miss it too, it’s largely why I just read JYJ3’s articles/ updates and try to avoid the comments section altogether. I actually enjoyed the whole exchange, thanks for being civil!
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@Kroon
“why does Heechul the quiet one in Suju, suddenly speaks with fire against Exo’s Lawsuit act ?’
I’ll copy and paste what I’ve already stated above earlier: He only spoke up because they brought up Hangeng and he’s right in saying that Kris’ and Hangeng’s situations were different.
Also you’re mistaken if you think Heechul is the quiet one.
“SM said the same thing Heechul said when JYJ first announced they hired a lawyer and filed a lawsuit. SM CEO said that the three are causing inconvenience for the DBSK China concert . Heechul used the same words SM said.”
No he did not. The DB5K concert in Shenzhen (Nov 2009) was supposedly the last stop on their Mirotic Tour (I use supposedly because JYJ DID NOT agree to the Shenzhen concert), whereas EXO was on the verge of their first ever concert. JYJ refused to perform (plus there were forgery issues etc) but Kris just didn’t return to Korea. SM basically said JYJ refused to perform so they cancelled the concert (spiteful statement really, because it was as if JYJ were to blame when they never agreed to it in the first place) and that is actually vastly different than Kris’ absence being an inconvenience to everybody else because let’s face it, it’s common sense. When you have to change most everything (choreo, line distributions, solo/special stages etc), it IS inconvenient and Heechul’s absolutely right. What he shouldn’t have said was actually the catering to fan entitlement.
Also, JYJ has fulfilled all their contracted shows and scheduled appearances even after they filed the injunction and only refused the Shenzhen concert after the court’s Oct 2009 ruling, which said SM needed to get their consent to schedule further activities. Contrast this with Kris’ situation.
Keep in mind I am not blaming Kris for ditching SM. I’m merely pointing out the differences in their situations.
Thank you for your common sense iraaa.
@Iraaa
Thanks a lot for coming to this post ❤
“Let our friendship last until the day we depart after living crazy life”
Happy Halloween MSG 😀
Happy Halloween JYJ3 Team and all JYJ3ers 😀
oh my god!! i’m so done with some fans here!!! Like who cares if Heechul act like a bitch in the past, the thing is Jae doesn’t care of it anymore and as far I can see, he look happy meeting with his friends, so get over the conspiracy theories of Heechul having double intentions, we’re just fans, support the artist that you like, enjoy their music, support him but don´t go crazy about it.
People change, sometimes we got wrong, I can understand that what Heechul (and other Sm artist) did looks bad as jyj stan view but it seems like they ALL have overcome it and we also should.
So let just be happy that Jaejoong has the lucky of being with his friends… peace!!
👍👍👍👏👏👏👏 for you!
Peace 😀 let’s spread Jaejoong’s smile ^____^
l hope Heechul as Jaejoong’s best friend will speak up about how unfair it is to blacklist JYJ from broadcasting stations, how sad it is for JYJ and their fans. But I understand if he’s too scared to talk about it. Unlike JYJ, Heechul wouldn’t survive if SM kick him out, so I understand his fear. I guess kindhearted JJ understand it too.
It looks to me like this is the same birhdaty party which Jo Sungmin posted on the previous day and which to me looked quite a dingy place and others made comments that JJ looked lonely but they did have a beautiful rendition of For You.
Damn, I’m starting to hate Heechul now…
@Kroon
you say ” Common sense says beware of this Heechul, instead of defending a puppet of SM, go side with those that broke away from SM like JYJ did and are under fire the same way JYJ were during their lawsuit too. @Kris doesn’t care, and her friends don’t care, they trust Heechul because it’s enough for them he pretends he is Jaejoong’s best friend. They don’t care this Heechul is spying on JYJ through Jaejoong. Mr.Egg speaks english, maybe someone should tell him to warn Jaejoong not to open his mouth to his best friend (Heechul) about JYJ/C-jes’s activities, because it’s a possibility Heechul befriended Jaejoong for the purpose of spying for SM’s benefits.
Why won’t you go direct to the point ? That Jaejoong’s friendship is putting a threat/danger to JYJ, so beware of Jaejoong, alienate him from JYJ so that he can’t tell Heechul about JYJ and Cjes top secrets.
Heechul is promoting Moldir , boycott Moldir or boycott everything about Jaejoong because he befriends Heechul, an SM spy, an enemy’s friend is also an enemy, therefore Jaejoong is an enemy. This is how I understand why you’re jumping around here hiding under the umbrella to boycott SM but actually your main target is Jaejoong. Recall how you bash Jaejoong in other blogs, how you hate him since TVXQ5 days, and now you’re using his friendship to Heechul a good opprtunity. Why won’t you send all your essays to Mr. Egg, as such he can take action to shut Jaejoong’s mouth?
I think that to clearly she hate our Jaejoong.
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Admin’s Note:
Everyone should know that fans’ actions will impact in JYJ. Non-fans might watching us righ now, and honestly I don’t think they have a good impression of us.
I ask JYJ’s fans to please try to be respectful and have some consideration when you talk about JYJ’s friends on this site, we might not like all of them but we don’t need to create more unnecessary drama.
Kroon please be careful when you leave comments on this site, It’s not the first time you cause arguments on this blog, especially in Kim Jaejoong’s related posts.
Can you stop being annoying and pollute this site with all this hate speech? I don’t like Heechul for reasons that interest only to me, but then came up with conspiracy theories (idiots, by the way) about Heechul being a spy of SM is really miss of doing something Go have fun and occupy your mind with something more useful. I hope very much that the adm. exclude your messages of hate that only serve to create the false illusion that JYJ fans are obnoxious and neurotic.
@Kris
You know what Kris, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Nowhere did @Kroon say or even insinuate that we should boycott Jaejoong so don’t put words into her mouth, especially such inflammatory ones. & you’re not so innocent when it comes to posting provocative comments in JYJ3 about Chunnie & Junsu fans, especially after that massive GAPP fight about Jaejoong fans over-whelming GAPP. You were making snarky provocative comments in pretty much every post until someone called you out on it. & for the record, posting taunting sneers at people doesn’t make someone look clever, superior or funny, it just makes them look cruel & insensitive.
wisdom quote : “Making a thousand friends is not a miracle. The miracle is to make a single friend who will stand by your side even when thousands are against you.”
I trust and believed that JJ know how valueable JS and YC to him…no one know better than JJ himself.
the talk have been going on for 3 days now…let us all make peace among us JYJ fans
I truly thankful to jyj3.net team for keeping this site on going till this days….and I really love you all for your love n support toward JYJ.
Uh-oh, I see many of @Kroon’s posts were deleted by the adminnie here but I think the adminnie must’ve good reasons to do so.
@Kroon, I hope you’ll not get too upset with the adminnie’s action~ *hugs*
and also, just so you know.. ok, maybe it’s just me looking at things from a different perspective xD..
I actually saw your point! :p and I understand your worries.
But don’t worry, JJ is a grown up already, am sure he knows how to judge for himself, so just chill and continue to support JYJ, neh?
Because Idk, despite all your craziness, I see a true JYJ fan in you~ xD
Let me see who’s who? 🙂
Dear JJ, I believe you’re browsing fansites, you said you’re watching us 😀 , just sing with your Hyung Bon Jovi ❤
Ha @ Kris Before I knew KJJ and JYJ, Bon Jovi was the singer I used to listen to most (though never took such interest in as I now do in JJ) When JYJ started worrying about their age I wanted to give them Bon Jovi as an example of a singer who still sings well and looks good even at an old age;. Bon Jovi won the best looking male rocker at the age of 50. Bon Jovi is another reason why I am so adamantly opposed to those fans who are telling JJ to eat more coz he is too skinny. If Bon Jovi had put on weight when he was young, would he look the way he does when he is now what around 60? and if I am not wrong he had a solo two years ago at Tokyo Dome.
@anna-liza
I read 2014 is the 30th anniversary of band’s first album Bon Jovi was released, being the vocal of the band, when I’m watching his live videos nowadays (he’s one of my favorite artists) , how I wish JJ will be active that long or even longer with his JaeRock . He’s complaining about his dancing as he ages, Bon Jovi or those other rock icons are filling stadiums even if they are 50’s 😀
@Kris. I hadn’t checked on JBJ for a long time, so my apologies to him. He is 53 now. I still love his songs Bed of Roses and Blaze of Glory. Those were my long time favs.
JBJ and KJJ are much alike in many respects. JJ doesn’t like pple concentrating on how handsome he is. JBJ explained that. He said he was working so hard busting his ass to create music while all the joutnalists saw was his cute face and long hair. This helps me understand that JJ would appreciate more a recognition of what he works hard to create rather than what he was “given” i. e. his good looks.
I, too, wish that JJ may have a long and successful career in music and doesn’t worry about aging coz I am sure he will be just as handsome in old age as he is now.
ooh my its kinda hot here hahahaha , listen guys dont over react because of simple thing come on it just a friend bracelet , and i dont care who are jaejoong yoochun and junsu friends because it their right to be friends with whoever they like and as long as they happy it the most matter.
i never judge bad JYJ or Homin since the lawsuit , you know everyone have their own destiny and we take the road we believe is the best, for JYJ the best for them was out from SM and the best for Homin was stay with SM , so its their life its their decission.
JYJ and Homin are best friends before the lawsuit and if one day they want to make up i see there is nothing wrong with that, they are always together since they debut, im very doubt they want to stand up again on stage as TVXQ but at least they can be friends again, isnt peace love and friendship are beautiful things.
im TVXQ fans and jaejoongie my bias and i never hear or watch Homin , if i miss old TVXQ just watch their old perfomances and damn i knew even back then jaejoongie such a dork hahaha i glad JYJ showed the real them since they out from SM hahahaa i like cool and cold jaejoongie but i prefer talkactive and dorky jaejoongie hahahahaha long live the dork hahahaa
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