[TRANS] If SBS has to open the Festival by merging with SAF, it makes me laugh at the Drama Awards this time; I recommend they use Park Yoochun once in an Entertainment [show]. How long will they be manipulated by SM clearing their throats? Let’s recover our senses. Okay?
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[TRANS] If JYJ, including Park Yoochun, appears in an Entertainment (T/N: i.e. variety show) on SBS, they won’t make it onto a program that has Kim Byung-man or Kang Ho-dong, and should at least try for Running Man, if possible
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Tagged: 2014 SBS Drama Awards, JYJ, Kim Young-sam, SM, Yoochun
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I wish more cultural leaders would speak out on this continuing injustice. These media giants should be shamed into doing the right thing if nothing else. Thus SM will be further marginalized as merely a shady, unethical exploiter of young talent.
JYJ in Running Man T_ T
please!! before any of them enlist!! please please please please > _<
i really really want to see it tooo *finger cross*
aint that the case with MBC and JJ for the MBC drama awards? I still don’t even know what fully happened…but I can assume it was SM.
Fighting JYJ
what happened was JJ tweeted that he’s very excited meet his “Triangle cast” in the award show! But after that C-jes suddenly released a statement saying JJ will not be attending the award show because he has “Spy” shootings. But funny thing is Whole Spy cast appear on the award show, so was JJ was filming by himself? It was all a lie, JJ was dis-invited at the last minute. Alternately Yunho and JJ has been nominated in the same category and seats have been next to each other(Not sure about this facts, This is what fans say who went) So lot of fans think SM and C-Jes might have come to a conclusion that both artists will not attend! Because Yunho had nothing in that day in his schedule.
Sanju Silva, I doubt CJes would tell JJ not to attend. He said he was looking forward to seeing his Triangle cast mates. He probably received a phone call last minute from MBC telling him not to come, and CJes covered by saying he had to work. So typical of how he is still treated by Korea entertainment. Until fans start getting publically vocal and stop buying SM products and attending their concerts not much will change. SM, is controlling Korea entertainment from behind the scenes, and proving everyday they can, and people are letting them do it.
The idea that C-jes and SM might be communicating and agreeing between themselves on ANYTHING is preposterous.
and yet you still have people who say ” it’s not SM that’s keeping JYJ out off broadcast …SM is too busy and can’t bother with JYJ anymore ” ..or even ” there’s no proof it SM who’s doing this , you JYJ fans just want to blame everything on SM ”
seriously …if people who know what’s going on in the entertainment industry have addressed this issue before and continue to occasionally why do we still have so much f***ing idiots own think otherwise ?
this brainwashing into a company stan ….I can’t believe how effective it is .
I think people who are in denial about SM have an agenda. They probably still buy SM products and support SM groups, but they don’t want to admit that they know perfectly well that they are in fact supporting SM to continue the harassment of JYJ. They want to pretend that there’s still some doubt so they don’t have to actually look at what they are really doing, let alone admit that what they are doing is providing encouragement to SM so that they can continue their vendetta.
There are none so blind as those who would not see.
I love JYJ!
I love Running Man!
JYJ on Running Man, PLEASE!!!
Please guys if you have a twitter account please retweet this . Thank you
Can’t stop laughing.. I love Yuxhun. That is his own style to lead the circumstance. Don’t be so serious in the award..We have unforgettable acceptance speech.. hahahahaha..😆
sorry for my typo ” Yuchun”..😃😄
“..unforgettable acceptance speech..”
Indeed. Because of him, the meaning of this award is crystal clear now~ xDDD
Amen!
Don’t people realize all of the networks have blacklisted JYJ? They’ll never appear on any TV show, like Running Man, until Lee Soo Man is put in jail.
You may be right, of course. I prefer to go on the assumption that if the tide of public opinion turns against SM, and significantly if their stock starts to plummet, if enough well-known media personalities and k-pop websites start to routinely condemn SM’s practices and the obvious collusion of the TV program directors that somehow, SOMEWHERE in that corrupt company there will be some not-presently-insane individual who says, “Seriously people – we have to stop now.”
Thank you Mr Kim for speaking out against this unfair treatment. It doesn’t make sense and is a form of oppression. Yet no one in the Korean TV is doing anything because it doesn’t affect them so they can’t be bothered about it. I want to see JYJ in variety shows before they go to military service.
I will really look forward for JYJ to be in running man. It will be a day for history to be written. Overcoming all odds….
What, I wonder, would it take for a bit of networking by these critics to go en masse with this issue. Quite frankly, given the current climate regarding chaebols and how they are being perceived by the general public, the time is ripe.
I believe all the blocking routine SM does to JYJ are haunting them back (with all lawsuits and scandals and I think there will be more in 2015) coz what goes around comes around~~
The fact that anyone truly believes that SM isn’t the reason why JYJ isn’t on television truly baffles me. The literal only way for a company to plummet is to hurt them financially. I personally have no beef with TVXQ, but I’m not going to to support them because that would directly support SM. The same goes for any of their artists. Fans have to stop supporting SM financially. Yes it’s going to hurt the acts, but within war you’re going to collateral damage. They can either leave or go down with the ship. In actuality most of those companies do a lot of crooked stuff. That’s just the truth. SM just happens to be the worse and they need to go down. I honestly feel that if that whale could be taken down then quite possibly the others would fall in line and take care of their employees properly.
I agree. And as to “supporting SM acts” – what are they really supporting?? That their favorite groups continue to be over-worked and cheated of their royalites? That every minute of their lives is dictated by the company for years on end? This is not a system worthy of being supported and fans do SM groups no favors by supporting the continuation of this indentured servitude. Anyone who can’t or won’t see this is either too young to understand much of anything, purely selfish or willfully blind.
5 years after the lawsuit and this injustice still persists. i’m really sad for the boys when they keep repeating at concerts that they cant go to broadcasts at all.
im thankful that jaejoong and yoochun have been able to penetrate the stations as actors. but what about their music? what about junsu? not trying to cause issues between the 3 because i swear to god i love them all. i just want all 3 of them on broadcasts. And Im just frustrated as it is.
Does anybody know what the agency has been doing nowadays to push for this unfair treatment to stop? The boys keep telling fans not to blame the agency but what exactly are they doing? Have they no connections at all or know any higher-ups? We cannot leave it all to fate that suddenly stations will start inviting them as guests. Those responsible should make an obvious effort.
Can SM really boycott every darn show that JYJ can be in? Both Kr and Jp? Wont they be in the losing end if they do this? I understand though, chances of them appearing in Starking and Laws of the Jungle are close to none bec they have Kang HoDong and Kim ByungMan as artists. but there are still music shows ( that dont have sm artists as MCs, or is there?) , or Running Man or Infinity Challenge or Healing Camp (they have a lot of healing to share in this show!). If they still cannot then aside from SM, the underlying deep-rooted connections and corruptions within the industry is to be blamed and it’ll be more difficult to stop.
I say cjes or whoever powerful chaebol deity should make some obvious effort. Military enlistment is nearing and no guarantee at all that by the time they finish their service, the stations will welcome them as if nothing happened.
I’m always hopeful for them but this is clearly industry politics.
Has anybody read the book Birth of Korean Cool by Euny Hong? It explains lots of things, including government support of Kpop music and which is now turning attention to K-cinema. To me this also explains why SM is now paying more attention to penetrating TV dramas and probably soon will start looking into the film industry as well.
That’s scary, because without SM having government in their pocket, they wouldn’t be able to do many of the things they get away with. I believe SM hates JYJ so much they started spreading their tentacles into everything JYJ could get into, just so they can block them. Of course the money it takes to do this started from money earned by DBSK, and now all the other Kpop artists. We can only hope, they put out more money than they get back, but with everyone in Korea entertainment so ready and willing to help it doesn’t look like they will go broke anytime soon. Maybe it’s payola, or maybe threats from LSM cronies, but until the public gets involved and demands SM not be allowed to take over Korea entertainment, it won’t change.
What I gather from the book is that it is actually the other way around. “Korea’s government has earmarked a billion-dollar investment fund dedicated to fostering popular culture”, that is, the gvt gives money to companies and gives them goals (similarly to when the gvt borrowed money internationally and then made Hyndai start manufacturing cars and build ships) so then it supports the companies so as to get their money (the loan) back. And then there is what Ms Hong calls “noonchi” — the Korean art of accurately gauging the infinitesimal cues of any situation in order to avoid social blunders”. By this she means that there is a collective discipline and culture where if they sense the gvt supports something, they will all support it, out of their patriotic duty. So, as JYJ went against “noonchi” they are like social outcasts and to openly associate with them, may also make one an outcast.
It’s really scary. I wish I had not come across that book, but it makes me love our JYJ all the more for being so courageous as to rise above all these obstacles and achieve so much only thru their talent, hard work and tenacity.
It makes me realize JYJ must be the last people in South Korea with any integrity and courage. How long will it be though, before South Korea starts looking like North Korea? They already have LSM, who is setting himself up as a god in the eyes of all his little idols. Now people are catering to his whims. It may have started out as an investment by the government, but they fed the beast, and now they have to live with it. Next I’m just waiting for his announcement that he’ll be running for President, and who would stop him then?
Yes, JYJ are great guys of integrity and courage. But the gvt is too dependant on the private sector to interfere actively on their behalf. However, they seem to be aware of the international base that JYJ has and so as to consiliate the internatiional opinion, offer them from time to time some recognition by making them honorary ambassadors for international events.
I wonder if C-Jes gets a substantial loan from the gvt to develop the musical section (which SM so far hasn’t shown any interest in) whther they are not going to acquire some leverage which they can then spread over their singers and actors.
I’m prefer 2 days 1 night than running man…but if JYJ in running man…cha tae yun will understand!!!..hahahh..anyway,,,maybe the 3 stations still wait whose will break the rules…anyway, first time always the hardest, then everything will be okay..
“I recommend they use Park Yoochun once in an Entertainment [show].”
Wow~ did he actually say this?! Well, thank you. And is there anything you can do to make this happen? haha~^^
Running Man or not, just put ’em boys on your variety shows, SBS (if at all, this is the only station you can hope, really~ xD)
you will not regret, this will be your best decision ever.
D’un autre côté, la SM entertainement continue son pujilat contre les garçons et tout particulièrement JaeJoong. C’est qu’ils les sentent suffisemment puissant que pour leur porter préjudice. C’est qu’ils s font dans leur pantalon, sinon ils n’agiraient pas de la sorte. Les dernier succès du groupe ont prouver aux autres artistes issus du label qu’ils pouvaient vivre et très bien réussir sans lui et que l’influence des fans est mille fois plus puissante que la fortune d’un label, quelle qu’elle soit. Qu’ils sont peut être assez important en Corée, mais que face au monde, ils ne sont rien du tout !!!! Ils ont sous-estimé les garçons et là, c’est la panique c’est tout !!!!! Moi je dis, bravo les petits gars, pour moi vous êtes un modèle de courage et JaeJoong mérite plus que jamais le nom de Hero !!!!
On the other hand, the SM entertainement continues its pujilat against the boys and quite particularly JaeJoong. It is because they feel them suffisemment the powerful that to harm them. It is because they are made in their pants, otherwise they would not act that way. The last success of the group have to prove to the other artists stemming from the label that they could live and very well succeed without him and that the influence of the fans is one thousand times more powerful than the fortune of a label, whatever it is. That they are can be rather important in Korea, but that in front of world, they are absolutely nothing!!!! They underestimated the boys and there, it is the panic that’s it!!!!! I say, bravo boys, for me you are a model of courage and JaeJoong deserves more than ever the name of Hero !!!!!
I’m so done with this!! I FUCKING HATE SM, and believe me I’m not the type of person to hate anyone or anything… Just mind your fucking dark business world and leave JYJ alone! They’re not a part of that! What are you afraid of? Are you scared that they will smash your top artists with their talent if they get to promote? Because we all know that there are no others like them, be it EXO, Super Junior, BIGBANG (I’m a total VIP), JYJ are the best and they know it… That’s what SM problem is…
Totally agree with you. 🙂 I feel the same.
I think that a lot of people think this… This pisses me of! SM has a lot of artists to care about, so why don’t they leave our boys alone?!
I believe it’s because they can’t be seen to have been wrong in all of their threats to the members of JYJ that they would NEVER be able to work again in SK – that their careers would be over if they dared leave. This we have seen was ridiculously wrong, in fact they’ve gone on to a far more varied career with great success and they’ve done it their way. Too bad Homin caved in to the pressure, but we all make our choices in life. Just imagine how enraged the heads of SM are about what has transpired, how much stress, suppressed anger and fear must haunt their corridors these days.
And now SM has started to see a disturbing trend among their best and most talented singers, who are also suing and leaving, so far because they know perfectly well they can immediately enjoy great careers in China, where they are from. The lesser talents at SM, the people who need them to buy them appearances on TV shows, buy them wins on those shows and generally pull strings in order to make them appear to be successful – they will of course stay at SM but over time, there will be a deep decline in the quality of talent there. And maybe that’s OK with SM. They’ve got the game in SK so rigged at this point, they are so adept at transforming mediocre singers into gorgeous and incredibly seductive performers trained in all the ways to captivate young girls that actual singing ability is sort of a moot point if their studio engineers can make ANYBODY sound like they can sing and all most of the groups ever do is lip sync at performances.
Yeah I agree… But you know SM is really powerful now but we never know they day of tomorrow so they better mind their business instead of stalking JYJ p, but whatever… YG is surpassing SM and I couldn’t be happier! I have nothing against their artists (except BoA, I really don’t like her ans I cant hide it) so I hope they do well, but that system needs to go down!
so this person is fascinated by Yoochun, huh? He doesn’t even witness Jae’s 4D-ness yet, and the famous xia-mulli (xia-bully LOL), if ever those went on TV broadcast, he will laugh his ass-off for sure! XD
i think everyone knows about SM interferences, just no one dare to take a step. don’t talk about their company stan, they know about these interferences for sure, yet they think SM is innocent, lol. makes my blood boils. but i keep the faith in the boys’ values. just keep supporting JYJ as much and as long as we can!