[NEWS] Park Ji Yoon says JYJ makes more money than TVXQ
Announcer and host Park Ji Yoon recently stated on a broadcast that the members of JYJ are earning more money now than TVXQ.
Specifically, she stated that because they are now a group of three, they are earning more income than when they were part of the five-member TVXQ. Park Ji Yoon added that one of the reasons they are earning more now is because of a better profit-sharing ratio with three instead of five members, after originally stating that the reason they are earning more money now is that they are acting a lot these days.
Of course, the trio JYJ infamously left TVXQ and SM Entertainment in 2010, and are now under C-JeS Entertainment.
Source: HG Times
Credit: Koreaboo
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JYJ3’s Note: Below is the full translation of the Korean article, that also mentioned Jaejoong:
[NEWS] Kim Junsu to make solo comeback in October, ‘Ssulzun’ Park Ji-yoon remarks “JYJ’s income is better than when they were in TVXQ”
JYJ Kim Junsu is making his solo comeback in October.
On September 13 C-JeS Entertainment said, “Kim Junsu is planning his solo album release in the middle of October”.
With the relevant news, Park Ji-yoon’s remark on ‘Ssulzun’ in the past is even shedding new light between netizens.
JYJ’s earnings rose up in a topic on JTBC ‘Ssulzun’ that aired last August.
Lee Yoon-seok on the broadcast back then, had said, “The fact that they[JYJ] cannot be seen on TV rather seems to have increased their on-the-spot ticket power”; and Park Ji-yoon interjected, “Naturally JYJ has not been active vigorously like their TVXQ days but their profits-share proportions are better at the time in a contract with their new agency and their actual earnings has improved than their TVXQ days”.
Following Kim Gura evoked laughter when he added, “Singer Moon Hee-joon assumed the role of Kim Jaejoong’s role model in their SM days and took care of him a lot. By the way he said ‘If you want to get a drink, I’ll buy it for you anytime’ when he met up with Kim Jaejoong recently. It seems his income is secure”.
Kim Junsu will make his solo comeback in October.
Source: HG Times
Translated by: rilanna of JYJ3
Shared by: JYJ3
What’s so “infamous” about wanting your freedom from a slave contract? JYJ earns more then before because they work hard and their company is not stealing their money, plan and simple!
Agreed and plus they have freedom n happiness now which money can’tcan’t buy
I agree!!!!
agree too
I am so happy for them that they are free to be the artists they want to be and simply be happy!!!!! They work very hard and deserve to be paid fairly for their hard work.
JYJ working less than their TVXQ days??? and only reason of their profit is being 3 not 5??? well,being funny is one thing but..or it’s just massive jealousy of their well deserved success..
I’m just saying in general compare to TVXQ days now JYJ more happuer cause they have more freedom without arguing from various aspects…sorry if its bring misunderstood
I totally agree!!!
My comment was meant for Sylnn571 and akisa.
Agreed. It’s certainly NOT simply because they are 3 now rather than 5 – that’s ludicrous. It’s because C-jeS is not stealing from them, not cooking the books in their own favor and they now are always paid the lion’s share of what they earn. TVXQ, even with that massive SM driven fandom they still possess, are still subject to the miniscule royalty rate and doctored accountings that I’m sure they are still not allowed to actually see.
+10,000!
My VE Sister, you took the words right out of my mouth! 😀
Your words are so true!!!!
very true!!!
Profit sharing among 5 or 3 members…? That’s not news, just simple math.
The real reason is the profit sharing percentage between agency and artist. If the agency like SM is going to take 70% of profit (after deducting expenses) and leave the rest of 30% to be distributed among to the members (e.g. Super Junior, Girls Generation, TVXQ, whatever), then there won’t be much left at all. If it is the other way around, artist take 70% or both group and individual events, then they probably can earn enough to build a hotel, buy a building, or whatever fancy cars they want.
SM’s royalty rate was considerably more than 70%. It was more like 98% when JYJ were part of TVXQ. THEN, there was SM’s crooked accounting system, replete with funds for kickbacks, payola and giving service contracts to people they favored and controlled, every penny of which was taken off the top of the group’s 2%. From a fiscal standpoint, the place is a rats nest that may never be fully unraveled or understood because they are so secretive. SM never did produce accountings for the group in the lawsuit JYJ filed, even though they were repeatedly ordered to by the court. They simply refused to do so. As part of TVXQ5, there was just NO way the members could ever have been treated equitably, despite all their hard work and great success.
Your words are so true!!!!
I cited 70% as an example, I knew in TVXQ days they were not getting 30%, but in those days it didn’t matter, 30% of $0 and 2% of $0 is still $0.
70% to SM vc 30% to idols is after JYJ lawsuit before in the best case it was 90% to SM and 10% to the group
Than earning more money, they got freedom as well as their artistic ability enhanced. If they were till in SM, we cant see musical actor junsu , actor yoochun and rock star jaejoong. I am happy that they are free to do what they want to do.
Agree with you all. Under the SM regime there would be no hotel. no leather goods designing, coffee cafe’s/restaurants; I can go on^^ SM allowing a ‘WWW’, or ‘Flower’ and creative control of the contents of said albums and it’s videos! Please! JYJ’s fans know these things but some only see the $$ signs and say JYJ are crybabies, when all they want is a level playing field; the chance to perform live, like all the other groups are doing!
Yes, JYJ have their freedom now, but at a cost: lost friendships, fans, years of built up reputation, but they’re gaining it all back thru hard work, natural talent and belief in each other and their fans. JYJ will continue to have my support, gladly.
I agree !!
Obviously. It’s individual activities vs group activities. With individual activities your income is your own and with group activities they have to split the income in five ways.
I don’t think that’s true with SM singers. If so, why was the Crebleau income so hotly contested by SM? Why was JYJ flayed alive by rumor, out-right lies and innuendo all orchestrated by SM and JYJ pronounced “greedy” by SM’s sycophants for wanting SM to abide by its earlier word to allow them to proceed with their business? No, when SM saw that Crebleau was making money, SM wanted their cut. It beggars belief that SM doesn’t have a clause in their contracts that states that it gets a percentage of everything their singers earn, from any source.
plus d fact that jyj can produce their own concerts and albums . . . and also do the directing themselves which means less intellectual costs
the fact they earn much more money is much sweet when we think that it’s while doing what they really like jaejoong always loved rock but SM never gave him a chance junsu loved musicals but SM even rejected Mozart casting for him and Yoochun-ah is hella our pride slayed the trending actors with all his successful acting projects I can’ even count his awards anymore. and above all JYJ are a successful group although all the lack of promotions. Yes JYJ not only earn more money than during their TVXQ days but also challenged themselves in many fields and slayed. as junsu said about himself goes on JJ and YC too, if they were still with SM they would have been just TVXQ members but Kim jaejoong kim junsu and park yoochun would have been nothing.
I agree with you , If they were in SM they will be known as members of tvxq. They wont have individual recognition what they got now.
Hi, if i may ask, junsu was offered to cast in mozart when he was under sm? I didnt know that..o.o
how can you split nothing? ha ha! all gone to SM.. 5 or 10 or 2 once you are robbed, you are robbed.It’s useless trying to find an excuse for that company’s wrong doingzzz.. .)
It’s true that JYJ makes more money now than AS TVXQ 5 during 2004-2009, but the announcer forgot to mention that one of the reasons also is because of the mayor globalisation of the Hallyu Wave AFTER 2010.
This is incorrect. If you look at the number of albums sold, concerts held, CFs, TV appearances etc. that make up the income of an idol group TVXQ5 had much more opportunities plus workload than JYJ now (I won’t talk about the current duo here because visibly it seems like they aren’t making much and they can’t even afford black cards etc. whereas they should be able to for the amount of work they are putting into their careers). What I mean to say is that TVXQ5 made more money as a group than JYJ does as a group (not that JYJ is actually focusing on group work; they focus on individual activities). The difference being that SME took the majority of the profit, whereas now JYJ get to keep the majority of what they earn +++++++ THEY GET BREAKS when they want, and can focus on things like family, rest and health. Back during TVXQ5 days they always felt sad that they could barely see their family.
JYJ gained new fans yes but it has nothing to do with the ‘Hallyu wave’, which they were one of the major spearheads of in the first place, especially in Japan. Also, JYJ although the industry underplays their success was the FIRST major group to spearhead the trend of ‘Hallyu wave’ global concerts. They were the first major kpop group to actually have a ‘worldwide tour’ and after companies saw that it was possible they started sending their idol groups to places like Europe and South America too.
Also, lol the ‘Hallyu wave’ has little effect on an idols career or success besides holding concerts outside of S.Korea. For example, SNSD is one of the major groups with the highest Youtube views but are they selling millions of albums? No! Most international fans attend concerts but don’t really buy music or the products their idols sell – they just comment and ‘spread the word’ or vote on a lot of useless polls.
Lastly, since the time JYJ have been banned from TV, they are more of an indie group than a ‘Hallyu group’ since the ‘Hallyu’ is supported by broadcasters and the government, and JYJ receive no support from them. Japan has some really famous singers/idol groups but their is no ‘Japan wave’, most people find Japanese music by chance and fall in love with it – that is the same case with JYJ. People find JYJ randomly by chance (they are supported by no Hallyu wave or whatever).
Thank you for taking the time replying to me, but sadly I think the point of my message got lost. I didn’t mean that they earned more money because of the Hallyu Wave, I meant that they couldn’t possibly earn much money during TVXQ5 because the big breakthrough of Hallyu and especially KPOP, happened after JYJ left SM.
Just a small thing, you can’t rightly say TVXQ2 visibly doesnt’t make much, when in fact they actually have bigger income than JYJ, groupwise and individually: which should be obvious why; ongoing success without any blocking in Japan (just recently there was an article pointing out that they make half of the company’s entire income) and being higly respected shareholders in SM nowadays.
However, I do agree with you on everything. Sorry for not checking my message properly before I sent it.
She said, “I won’t talk about the current duo here because visibly it seems like they aren’t making much and they can’t even afford black cards etc. whereas they should be able to for the amount of work they are putting into their careers”. Translation, you can’t tell how much TVXQ2/HoMin are making just by looking at them. Why? Because we would have sworn TVXQ5 were making billions by 2008 because of their heavy workload and popularity, but that was a lie. SME swallowed up all their income in the name of “contract terms” and “promotional costs” and whatnot. Kind of like how BAP got zero payments for working for 3 years.
Secondly, Hallyu wave did not just start in 2010. LOL where have you been? Hallyu wave was blazing even in the days of TVXQ5. The only difference now is that the Korean idol market is now heavily saturated. They are spewing up idols left and right.
how come “TVXQ2 have bigger income than JYJ groupwise and individually” to begin with JYJ clearly make bigger than them individually there’s there’s no way to compare the 2 groups individual activities when JYJ enjoyed a remarkable success in this wise while the two till now never heard of them successful in anything any fields as individuals wich makes your statement wrong I understand they weren’t banned from Japan like JYJ as you said but Japan is not the center of the world. JYJ did world tours have 3 times their concert attendance in korea. and if we compare them in China, Taiwan ..your statement is wrong I don’t even see how even visibly you say those two ( who honestly failed in their solo activities) make more JYJ in individual activities it’s total nonsense.
@CC you must be living in your own world or under a rock maybe ? JYJ makes more money not only than TVXQ5 but also TVXQ2. as group and as individual JYJ makes better money than them.
LOL ….People are gonna be arguing about this like crazy.
Sometimes people see 40,000 seats sold at $100 and may think the singer made $ 4 mln at one performance but forgetabout the expenses involved and how many other people’s families are fed from the earnings of the cocert. First they adviertise in various media, including on buses etc, hire the venue and pay for 2 extra days: 1 before for rehearsal and to set up the stage and decor and another – after to remove stage and equipment. When JJ had his concert at Yokohama, the stage was 100 meters long. Those stages running across the pitch of stadia are all specially buil. it costs to buy materials and to pay workers, then arrange seats and sections; design, buy and set up the decor; pay electricity, install lighting systems, firewoorks + personnel for them; sound system equpment, personnel; visual effects; expensiive attire and make up for singer and back up dancers, orchestra, ushers and the list goes on.
So, if the performer is one, he alone (and his agency) gets the profits but also foots the whole bill of expenses. If they are three, the profits are shared but so are the expenses and if they are five they divide the profit by five but also their expenses are shared so they pay much less for the cost of the event than the single peformer would.
Thus, the earning is not affected so much by the number of singers as it is affected by the way it is shared. In SM they were sharing the expenses but not the profits. Now JYJ share everything plus they have diversified their actiiities according to their individual talents and preferences and the satisfaction of working for themselves and being recognized for their own effort and talent gives them the stimulus to work harder and to constantly improve themselves which in return earns our admiration and loyalty and we stay by their side thru thick and thin.
“So, if the performer is one, he alone (and his agency) gets the profits but also foots the whole bill of expenses. If they are three, the profits are shared but so are the expenses and if they are five they divide the profit by five but also their expenses are shared so they pay much less for the cost of the event than the single peformer would.”
Wrong calculations! Why?
Lets say they used Tokyo dome for the concert. The single performer and the multi-performers all use the same venue and sell the same amount of seats (give or take). So the single performer will make roughly the same amount of revenue (lets say a million dollars) as the multi-performers (also a million dollar revenue). They will also have roughly the same amount of expenses/cost (say $100,000). The difference is, after subtracting the cost of expenses from the revenue, the single performer will take home $900,000 while the multi-performers will have to divide that amount among themselves (eg. $900,000/5performers = $180,000/person). Big difference in pay.
Of course,JYJ as a group is the BOSS. They make the move,not cjes.
Heck, I think JYJ’s making more money than the TVXQ now.