Until now I’ve (taken the long way) around, for many years… No matter what I do, they will say that I am benefitting… I am so happy that I am my younger brother’s brother, but (they) wouldn’t know… that it is not a life that is only happy and easy, my efforts to get out of his shadow, that I become not someone’s brother but just Kim Junho..
T/N: There are some translations that are going around Twitter that are patently inaccurate. For instance, the word that Junho uses is “덕” which means “benefit” and does not carry a negative connotation. Please always watch out for inaccuracies in translations which result in changes in meaning.
Source: @iamzunoya
Translation Credit: JYJ3
hmm…what happen Junho??why only now you speak up??anything happen??
i think some people ‘bashing’ him coz his decision to be under Avex for Japan activities..
@syirafm; I think @luvjj is right. It seems it has everything to do with his recent contract with Avex. Junho wants to become independent of Junsu in all matters related to his new contract with Avex, I think to avoid JYJ and mainly Junsu to have problems because of that.
if u really loves Junsu, Jaejoong & Yoochun, don’t hurt people that they love..
if you hurt/bashing Zuno for his decision to be with Avex, do u think Junsu won’t get hurt too ?
just think before u write anything 🙂
~LOVE THEM, LOVE WHO THEY LOVE~
i agree…well not with the “Love who they love” part. I don’t think u should love someone just because they do. I think “respect who they love” is more suitable for me. I don’t agree with Junho’s decision but its his life and his career. I do understand about him wanting to be out of Junsu’s shadow though. It must be hard to want to make his own career and people keep saying he’s just trying to use his brother’s name. I know that he must love his brother and im pretty sure he’s not trying to get famous through Junsu. He’s working hard to make a name for himself and I really do hope he is successful.
Is expressing your disappointment considered bashing? Yes, there are some who can take it to the extreme but all the people I know are just plain disappointed. Many people think that if it’s not a positive comment then it’s considered bashing but it’s not.
That’s what I think too… When they disagree with you or your opinion, they call your basher, and your comment bashing…
Junho just needs to wear a thicker skin now… This is just the beginning…
I expressed my disappointment the other day. If any of you thought I was bashing then so be it.
i agree w/ u
and i know how Junho felt right now because i had experience it myself….it was really difficult to get out from your brother or sister shadow who look so perfect in other people view
like i said before in previous post that i’m triple child and the only daughter in my family so when my brothers get appreciation from other people because they are look so perfect in everything that made me proud but also made me be fed up coz i always compared to them and i experience it from when i’m 6 years old until 22 years old…it’s really long day for me to escape from their shadows
@ Miaw
Don’t be sad….You will grow stronger from that kind of experiences….Anyway, just be yourself & don’t try too hard to be somebody you are not… One day people around you will realise that you are also good in your own way….It doesn’t have to be smart to be successful….however if you upgrade yourself here & then, you will surely learn more things & be happy about it…
Luckily for me, I’m the only child in the family…However, I’m not the “very Smart” one…That’s what my mom said to me & she is just happy like the way I am…Don’t give up!!!! Everyone has their own special ways….
~LOVE THEM, LOVE WHO THEY LOVE~
Sorry, but I’m not agree with this. I love JYJ’s members but that doesnt mean i should LOVE who they love.
LOVE is a strong word aand it’s only for the people your heart choose.
Like I said before I respect Junho as Junsu’s brother but he does not impress me as artist yet.
If Zuno doesnt want to be someone´s brother I guess he does not the love of Junsu’s fans but the love of us or other people as music lovers that could like him or his music.
“If Zuno doesnt want to be someone´s brother I guess he does not the love of Junsu’s fans but the love of us or other people as music lovers that could like him or his music.”
what? lol c’mon now. What he said in no way implies this. He didnt even say that he doesnt want to be someone’s brother. He’s a grown man and he doesnt want to in his brother’s shadow forever. Any person with a sibiling that is close in age or a twin will tell you the same. It has nothing to do with him liking or disliking Junsu fans. Its seems as if he just wants to step out in his own, without CONSTANT reminders that he is so and so’s twin.
I dont care about people being disppointed in him or expressing their doubts and concerns, but its comments like these that annoy me. You’re adding in extra elements and making the situiation bigger than it has to be.
@viee I know that he does not want to be under Junsu’s shadow! He wants independance from the BIG name of his brother…. so what about this: “if you love Junsu you should love Junho”?
Are you helping him like this?
I’m sorry if my comment offended you, that was not my intention and I believe I did not use offensive words in my comment.
I just want to show my point of wiew here. I will be sincere. I’m not Junho’s fan. I was a bit worried about how much his decision could affect JYJ.
But he is free to do whatever he wants. He is an INDEPENDAT person that should do things for his own good too.
that’s it
Your comment is a bit … I love JYJ and many of their friends & family but that doesn’t mean I have to be a blind fan. Many people were disappointed with Junho’s decision and I feel that it’s alright to express it. Like JYJfryingpan said, just because it’s not a positive comment doesn’t mean it’s bashing. And quite honestly, even if fans were to bash Junho for this, let them. If it’s just once, it’s alright. Life isn’t always peachy.
Yes, extending your love to those who are loved by the ones you love implies that you’re discarding personal discretion – and tenets too for that matter. I also agree that negative comments should be allowed to be expressed. Why? Because people should exercise their freedom of speech (but in turn, be prepared for repercussions). I would just caution you on your diction, namely this line: “If it’s just once, it’s alright.” You have implied that ethics are determined by the amount of times it has been committed; in this case, a wrong is made a right because it was only committed “once.”
i really support him poor guy leave him alone is his live not us
yes. please don’t criticize anymore. don’t go to his youtube video and keep pressing the dislike button either…>.<
i feel realy bad for him. i'd go insane if i were him. when my younger brother is THE voice of Asia…it's just so hard for him.
You! I’ll talk to you on Twitter XD
I know it’s hard for him stepping into the same business where his brother is loved and adored by millions of fans. Eventhough I’m not Junho’s fans but I never thought either that he used or benefit of Junsu’s popularity to build up his career.
He should know it better, what he really wants in his career, and who to trust and who not. ebuff said.
they did that really? i think only immature fans would do something like that… i don’t think the real jyj fans would do that… maybe some fake fans who would just like to make the matter seem worse. i don’t know…i even like his song on youtube. i really wish junho will release a new album soon. i like him not because he is someone’s brother… i like him because his voice is so soothing, just like what i feel whenever i listen to jj’s ballads and junsu’s too love and fallen leaves… gosh. this is just too sad.
Kim Junho , Fighting !!!!!
Kim Junsu , Fighting !!!!!!
JYJ Fighting !!!!!!
V@_^V
He deserves a break, he already discuss his affialiation with Avex with his family, most of all Junsu sambae. He deserves to carve his own path, and we are no one judge him specially when his brother already aproved. Let him continue on his journey and the best of luck to him!
THIS +++
It’ll always be hard for a person to walk out of a more famous/clever/popular sibling.
Give the guy a break.
Su will not want to see his fans bashing/criticizing his family members too.
Right? as much as my sister and I fight, I would never tolerate someone talking bad about her to me. Family situations are very different from those that concern friends.
I can’t understand people who are bashing junho for wanting to have his own name and career and not just be the brotherto junsu…
PLUS EVERY ARTIST IN AVEX ARE NOT EVIL…
Ayumi Hamasaki, Koda Kumi, Naoya from AAA, EXILE, TRF, even Sam-san who JYJ considered their father-like when they were in Japan…
WE SHOULD NOT BURN DOWN A “TREE” BECAUSE OF FEW BAD DISGUSTINGLY UGLY “APPLES”!!!!!
I HOPE JYJ FANS CAN UNDERSTAND THAT JUST BECAUSE TWO IMMATURE, STUPID, JEALOUS, AND VENGEFUL PEOPLE….
AVEX HAS COME TO BE KNOWN AS THIS EVIL COMPANY WITH EVERYONE ASSOCIATED BEING EVIL THEMSELF.
Agree… only the CEO and the President were evil… their artists supports JYJ and friends with JYJ.
You misunderstand them. They’re disappointed in his choice of company, not because he wants to make a name for himself. Do you think people just woke up one day and decided out of the blue to hate on Junho? No. And it has nothing to do with the other artists in Avex. It’s just about Avex itself.
Yes I know alot of JYJ fans are disappointed with his choice but I just wondered….
WHAT IF JUNHO SIGNED WITH AVEX WHILE JYJ WERE STILL ABLE TO PERFORM IN JAPAN???
NOW THAT THEY CAN’T, SHOULD JUNHO FORGET ABOUT HIS CAREER IN JAPAN AND LEAVE AVEX(if he actually can?) BECAUSE HIS BROTHER IS BEING BLOCKED BY THE COMPANY THAT MANAGES HIM????
DON’T YOU THINK THAT’S WHY JUNHO WAITED 7 MONTH TO ACTUALLY DECIDE IF HE SHOULD STILL GO WITH AVEX OR NOT???
DON’T YOU THINK JUNSU WANTS HIS BROTHER TO SUCCEED IN HIS OWN WAY AND NOT ALWAYS BE UNDER HIS SHADOW???
People shouldn’t be disappointed in his decision if it’s not hurting or causing harm to Junsu or JYJ!!!!
@kikyo
In his last tweets it made it seem like he did it 7 months after the jy incident… so he signed it like last month or the month before that…
I don’t see why it matters either way but..
@Kikyo
You should try to see all POVs. If everything was all happy go lucky with Avex, this wouldn’t even be an issue. But because of recent events, it’s become a huge issue. It does affect JYJ. In fact, it’s pretty damaging to their image. Fans don’t want Junho to not have a career or to not step out of Junsu’s shadow. They have no problems with him trying to make a name for himself but the timing of it all did hurt many fans.
Junho contemplated for 7 months and this is what he chose to do. He must accept whats happening and move on. I have no doubt in my mind that Junsu wants the best for Junho but fans are torn now. He must understand us as well.
wwoww i really agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The news of his contract with Avex was shown at the wrong time. Avex purposely did it to rile up the JYJ fandom. And yes, it worked. I really don’t think anyone has any ill intentions towards Junho but what did he expect. That JYJ fans wouldn’t be upset? I know he’s living in Junsu’s shadow and I agree he should do his own thing to be happy but the timing of the announcement hit too many nerves.
We shouldn’t bash Junho, yes, but I also think that if you’re upset about it then let it out. It’s one thing to have a moment or two where you let out some steam and it’s another to continously bash on a regular basis. Junho wanting to make something out of himself isn’t an issue. I hope he understands that. Its him contracting with Avex that’s the problem. If it had been any other company in Japan, I’m willing to bet my savings that he would have been welcomed with love and not hate.
IA..i think the announcement that he signed with avex is the actual problem..honestly, i think the only way to knock this issue down is for junsu to say somethin..for zuno’s sake i hope he really did discuss it with the boys before making his decision..otherwise this is gonna turn real messy..T_T
This is where things start getting complicated. Junsu shouldn’t say anything because of the lawsuits that have been begun. I really hope he doesn’t. Junho is a grown man. He made his decision so he should also accept everything that comes with it. If he really thought it through, he’d know how the fans would react.
I totally agree; wrong time wrong company. Avex is a big company that knows how to play hardball. You can bet they knew exactly how this would go down if they signed Junho especially with this new lawsuit. No one wants to hurt Junho, but he says he thought about it long and hard; so he had to be aware of the reaction that would come in making that decision and deal with the fallout like jyj has done since making their own life-changing decision. I personally think Avex is using Junho as a pawn in all of this. How do you sign one brother while blocking and profiting off the other? That’s just BUSINESS to Avex, and what the fandom thinks about it means ‘zip’ to them. From what they’ve shown so far, Avex is all about the bottom line-$$$. I wish Junho much success, but it’s going to come with a price.
MTE I’ve read comments on here talking about how fans don’t want him to have a career or walk out from Junsu’s shadow but that isn’t it. Many are just plain disappointed that he chose Avex. The very company that many of us are boycotting and petitioning against. Is that hard for some of you to understand?
@fryingpan
you said all i wanted to say and you said it better than i could have said
It’s like you’re in my head
I think it’s brave of him to come out and say things this plainly. Something tells me the bashing’ll only get worse after this tweet. (I can imagine them already)
I think JYJ fans need to see things with clear eyes.
Remember the hate the boys got breaking off from DBSK and forging their own path? The calls of betrayal? Did your heart not ache at the spiteful comments thrown?
The circumstances may be slightly different, but who are we to judge? Isn’t it ironic we’re doing this to Junho, Junsu’s beloved brother?
So please, be calm and stay rational…
Junho seems like a really nice guy. He doesnt seem to be someone who would do something sneaky or underhanded. Avex knew what they were doing when they relaeased this info and it sucks. There are bigger problems to be concerned about, this isnt one of them. Avex hasnt been showing the best face lately, so I can understand people being upset or ecen question Junho about joing them. I just hope that the Kim family knows what theyre doing and they have gone through the contract throughrouly before signing it. I wish Junho the best!♥
There are trials in everyone’s life but I think it’s especially hard to be a celebrity because everyone is always judging you. But, he has to learn to not take things to heart too much. He should worry more about his music.
Props to him for speaking his mind and saying things how they are.
But people need to stop bashing him! This is bulls*it! :@
Keep fighitng Junho! 😀
..i understand he dont want to live under Junsu shadow, everyone deserve find their own way that why JYJ fight for this…yes but its not a right time to do it esp with Avex…anyway pls JYJ fans dont bash him..you dont need to support who you not agree but dont let our Junsu more hard time with his brother..if have problem between of them, Junsu will hurt more and JYJ will hurt more,JYJ they have enough terible time aready, please!!!!!!
although i’m hoping junsu will also speak up about this but i guess the timing would totally be wrong esp now that jyj is filing a case against avex.
if junsu will speak up, how will he do it without sounding like or implying that avex will be good to junho’s career. Its like saying avex is a good company after all, and jyj is in the wrong side to go against them.
i don’t know, i’m sure junsu is torn right now. I’m sure he wants to defend junho but was advised by cjes not to do it.
I’ve always respected him and saw him apart from Junsu from the start. And that won’t ever change.
Fighting, Junho-sshi! ^^.v
Blood is thicker than any kind of “water”!
Junho is having some serious identity crisis.. he wanted to get out of his brother’s shadows and start his own career but I’m still wondering why with Avex.. But I am wishing him wel.. he needs to find his footing in the industry.. if doors of opportunity are close.. knock till your knuckles bleed DOnt give up JUnho! Let the bashers bash.. just work hard..
The best way for Junsu sambae to deffend his brother is that : they are brothers above all, and that his brother is grow up enough to make his own descissions even when he himself might not agree with them. After all he wouldn’t the first or last not to agree with his sibbling.
I sadly don’t agree with those who say junsu should come out and say something in his defense just because of the fact that Junho said he wants to get out of his brother shadow. Junsu’s not his brothers protector, taking this road Junho will have times of feeling alone no matter who is by his side. He’ll have to toughen his skin like jyj and the rest of the successful celebrities did or he will end up falling short.
I agree, Junsu dont need to do anything, he have enough problem, it willnot sure help anything maybe more worst or maybe make Junho more think junsu make him live under junsu shadow agai,n the one junho try to avoid. just let Junho take care and responsiable everything himseft,he a grown men!!! Junsu had no choose to respect his brother desion!!!!
Like I said to hmmm:
Exactly!!! Thats what I’m trying to say! If he wants to be his own man then he has to fight his battles just like any other person has to. Its said enough that people are saying “don’t bash him it may hurt junsu” “or we should let him do what he want cause he got junsu’s approval” Those sound so…
He has a battle ahead for his wish to come true is all I’m gonna say.
No bashing Junho, please!
Ok, many of us are angry or dissapointed with his desition but he choses his path and even it´s difficult we must respect it! *sigh*
As much as I hate AVEX, I can´t hate their artists simply because they aren´t as SM artists who attack in group… so I hope Junho get his goal (step out of Junsu´s shadow). Good luck Junho!
Anyway, my love and support are only for JYJ!
Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu!
NO.ONE.HERE.IS.BASHING.HIM.
Many people need to learn the definition of bashing before using it ^_^
@YouMeLove
its you…I miss you, dear!! sooooooo happy to see you again!!!^_____________^
Hi Anva ^_^ LOL, yes, it’s me! I came back because I just couldn’t leave. I don’t think I can even if I wanted to XD *hugs*
@YouMeLove
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Hey! Where I said that someone is bashing Junho HERE?
But it´s obvious that people are bashing him on twitter! (That´s why he needed change his bio) I was taking about it!
Seriously, you really need to calm down!
I hope you all realize that fans aren’t mad because of Junho wanting to step out from Junsu’s shadow. Its because he contracted with Avex knowing Avex was blocking JYJ. Please don’t make it more than what it really is.
Agreed, but stating that your brother is mature enough to make his own path is not actually overshadowing but reinforcing the fact that he has the right to make as he pleases
No, I don’t agree its telling the world that…if i say its okay then its okay. Why do people need junsu to say its okay for it to be okay or for them to calm down. Even if junsu doesn’t like (which no one seems to have considered) why does it matter. Why isn’t Junho’s signature on the paper enough? Reinforcing…for what? thats no one’s duty but Junho himself.
for you to live your life.
Love this comment. It sums it up
thata’s right dear…
It’s his life…
May be because JYJ boys are friend with artists and staffs in AVEX, they have a lot of connections. They can ask them to take good care of junho…?
Anyways, just don’t bash him, okay? ;_;
It would be a lot easier for him to break out of his brother’s shadow if only he chose a different career path ( acting perhaps?), because he’s definitely good looking & tall.
What would you guys do in a situation like this?
I know we all have had those situations where we are all friends, but one friend all out with the other and you’re stuck in the middle not knowing who to keep as friends. One friend might tell you to stop hanging out with the other because of the way they treated them. Or those friends understand you had no place in their arraignment so they don’t mind you continuing to be friends of them both.
Su hasn’t asked of Ho to stop ties with Avex that’s good character on Su’s part because Su understand that his problems with Avex is his and his alone, no need to drag someone else in the sticky situation when they had no cause in it happening. That’s what I get from this. Cause the fact that he thought about it for 7months and there seems to be no problem between him and Su. But it’s Avex I don’t like. The fact that they brought this up now. And then JYJ sues them it’s getting messy.
I say Junho do what you have to do to define yourself but please don’t make it messy. Situations like these can get messy cause people twist words around. I bet when he gets to really talking to the press about how he feels people will start to think he did this to be competitive and ill of Junsu and JYJ. Kinda similar to Homin. Right now he want to define himself out of Su’s shadow. I hope the steps it take to do this don’t get messy to the point where there’s hurt.
Just saying watch out for those people. Don’t give them ammunition to bring you guys apart and that’s from Avex and everyone, general people, everyone.
Junsu is just too nice… I can’t say the same for Junho.
please stop. How can you say Junho isnt nice? We barely know him apart from the fact that Junsu cherishes him. Lets not draw these dramatic conclusions because its exatcly what Avex wants.
His words so far have been very straightfoward and sensible. He seems to be able to handle himself well. I agree though, Avex is going to try to spin this anyway they can. But I do have to say that things happen for a reason, I hope Junho holds on tight and keeps working hard. He’ll get through this. He has the support of his family, and given everything that has happened with Junsu and SMent, I can only pray that the contract he signed it a good one.
If you not familiar with Asian culture, you might not know that families and family member have a sense of duty towards eachother and as I said before he’s doing this with Junsu’s sambae approval already. The point in all this is that is his decission, and yes he’s mature enough to make it, anyone else needs to butt out!
lol I won’t get into the first part of that. And FYI he never said he had his family approval he said he talked to his family about it you chose to interpret that the way you want…And if you can read I never said and thing where its not his decision or his free will…so…don’t even know what that is for. Like I said Junsu doesn’t have to speak for a man who knows how to speak for himself.
i agree. they treat this guy likes a kid. He is old enough to handle this situation since he claims to be independent. By having Junsu butts in to his problem will give people more reasons to claim he is incapable of handling his own matter and worse an incompetent man.
Exactly!!! Thats what I’m trying to say! If he wants to be his own man then he has to fight his battles just like any other person has to. Its said enough that people are saying “don’t bash him it may hurt junsu” “or we should let him do what he want cause he got junsu’s approval” Those sound so…
He has a battle ahead for his wish to come true is all I’m gonna say.
I agree Junsu dont need to say anything like my comment above..i understand why the fans disappiont..but i still say dont bash him, ofcouse you can show you disappoint and opinion but not hard words( I did not see in here)because may cause a big problem betweent two of them more hurt for JYJ!!lets him take care his career and if something happen he have to respon with it..i just support JYJ who deserve i support!!!
I’m not saying bash him. I’m not saying don’t bash him. I’m saying People should feel like not bashing him because its his decision not because you don’t wanna hurt junus or jyj…
I personally don’t care how people feel about junsu I can understand why they dislike this decision just like I can understand why someone would be like “who cares”.
I personally am not a fan of junho so I don’t care where he is either way. I just think its funny that people support him jusyt cause of junsu or jyj or hate him cause they feel this will hurt junsu or juj. Or how they’re overlapping their own interpretations on what he said in his last tweets.
i hope people would really leave him alone now…
he doesn’t deserve all the hate.
(i don’t want to think about junsu getting hurt because of people bashing on junho, but he most probably is T___T)
the sad part about all this is that Junho’s current fame is sadly to say come from his twin brother. Without Junsu, nobody will even notice him. I understand he wants to be out of Junsu’s shadow, but his initial career development in which Junsu’s fame plays a huge part in his early success create contradiction to his claim. He would earn people’s respect if he starts out from the bottom without using his brother fame, then his signing with Avex would become less a problem because he earns it and not because of Junsu. I have no problem with him choosing his own path, but the way he executes it is what causing all this chaos.
You know you actually have a point…it’s gonna be hard (next to impossible) for him to get from under that shadow now..cause of how he started off, he started off being junsu’s twin instead of Junho a new debut singer
did you see Yoohwan sign with SM? (If I remember correctly Yoohwan used to be SM’s trainee.) The answer is no. Yoohwan is also benefit from Micky’s fame but you did not see him work for others. I think Yoohwan is under Cjes as well.
I thought junho was on the cjes site at one point also but I guess not…
Some ppl say that Junsu approve of Junho being in Avex, if not Junho wouldn’t be in Avex. BUT PPL THINK logically would Junsu really approve of his brother to be in a company that put him through so much pain and suffering would he really want to put his brother through that??? I think not. As for my point of view of Junho being in Avex, I will not support him because Junho wants to be a star so badly that he’s willing to be on the same side with a company that is doing everything they can to destroy JYJ? Just to let Junho know that if it wasn’t for him being in Junsu’s shadow, NO ONE would even know who Junho even is.
Thats what I’m saying. I refuse to go around saying junsu feels this way or that way. He hasn’t spoke on it and I won’t speak for him. I personally don’t care where junho goes I have nothing against him but I’m not a fan of him either. I don’t support or but anything from Avex no matter who is under it. I just don’t like companies like SME and Avex. They make the life of artist bad. And they try to pin down creativity.
THIS exactly THIS THIS THIS.
I have to disagree with you here.
I started listening to Junho’s songs without even knowing he was Junsu’s twin brother since, as I explained previously on an other JYJ3’s post, Junho’s stage name was Zuno and I listened to his songs without having seen any pictures of him so I didn’t make the connection between him and Junsu (eventhough I knew Junsu had a twin bother and I had seen pictures of him etc. before).
I even know some people who found out about JYJ/TVXQ thanks to Junho so it’s kind of unfair to say that without Junsu nobody would have noticed Junho…
I don’t exactly thik thats what she meant his career was started through his brother. Thats honest fact. And even if you compare the people who knew him not as junsu brother the oes who did would out weigh it by tons…
i had a feeling that something might happen, after all its only so much u can take before u get fed up of it.
hopefully this doesn’t make junsu and junho relationship strain.
me too!
I know that it is hard to always be in Junsu’s shadow, but the truth is that without Junsu, Zuno wouldn’t even be where he is right now, and Zuno should appreciate Junsu for what he has done for him up until now. Don’t kill me people, but to tell u the truth, I don’t think Zuno even has 1/2 the talent that Junsu has. Zuno has a long way to go and will need a lot of guidance from Junsu, and this is just the beginning. But if Zuno feels that Junsu helping him is him being in Junsu’s shadow, he won’t succeed because Zuno needs to know that Junsu got to be who he is today took a lot of blood, sweat, humilation, and so many more obstacles. Since Junsu has gone through all those hard times. Junsu can help Zuno to save him from some of those obstacles. If Zuno wants to succeed he’s going to need his brother. Zuno up until now has not proven himself worthy of being a popular star. He is lucky to have Junsu as his brother. I am not bashing Zuno or anything, but Zuno really do need the help of Junsu.
Who said that he doesnt appreciate his brother’s support and success? If he were to do what you have suggested people who still be criticizing him for taking the easy way out and riding his brother’s coat tails. I really dont like your comments about Junho. He seems to be handling this situation in sensible manner. Lets not start being extra and adding in elements. You’re making the situation more than what it is. Junsu can provide him with support without being his left and right hand.
Agree with you!!
JunSu experience a lot of painful things to be where he is right now. Lots of years spent in training his vocal, while JunHo?
JunHo will always be in JunSu’s shadow no mater how he wants to be out from it. Unless he can outshines JunSu in his career but I’m pessimistic about that…
When I say approval, I mean he talk things over with his brother and eventhough some of you might think it was not the right thing to do none of us here has the right to pass judgement on his decission. Again he could have that discussion with family they could have agree to disagree and period. Time will tell if what he did was right or wrong..
lol that is not the meaning of approval…and who here is speaking on right and wrong ! Gah at least read. I don’t give a flip that hes under Avex I just feel that its not Junsu job or a good idea for junsu to say anything. I’ve already said whY i FEEL THAT WAY. I don’t know if you skipped convo understanding 101 but you’re the only one talking about right of wrong of people not me…thats not even the way I approach and convo about the members you can ask anyone here. I don’t even give my opinion on the topics of the articles but how people react to them…so../so if you’ve misunderstood do take the time to read again what I have said/.
Junho debuted in China and he failed so now he wants to debut in Japan, which is even harder to succeed than China. Well good luck doing so. Junho you can’t find any other company to be under besides Avex??? Avex…. the company that is treating ur brother like crap. I supported u before…. but u know y i supported it u cuz I saw how much Junsu loves u, and always talked about u. Now you take ur brother’s help to “he in his shadow”? If u want to be “out of the shadow” then fight for it, tweeting it isn’t going to help. After all u haven’t earn ur recognition, ur brother earned ur recognition.
Omg lol you’re acting as if he straight up bashed Junsu and just joined Homin. You’re really going for him arent you?
uh, that’s not the vibe I get from her comment.
I actually somewhat agree with her.
If he wants out of Junsu’s shadow he IS going to have to work for it. Talk is cheap it’s the actions that have value.
Her comments are boderlining that, She twisting his words as well
“Now you take ur brother’s help to “he in his shadow”?”
” and Zuno should appreciate Junsu for what he has done for him up until now”
this is what he has said: “No matter what I do, they will say that I am benefitting… I am so happy that I am my younger brother’s brother, but (they) wouldn’t know… that it is not a life that is only happy and easy, my efforts to get out of his shadow, that I become not someone’s brother but just Kim Junho..”
I just dont understand why is she coming for him like that when his words dont even imply any of the things she’s brought up. Shouldnt it be a good thing that he wants or is atleast attempting to step out of his brother’s shadow, instead of enjoying the ride on his coattails? Knock him for joing Avex, but dont try to imply that he isnt greatful for junsu’s help. Having his brother’s help and becoming is own person are two different things and they can coexist.
Agree. I somewhat believe his fans are probably more of jyj fans who support him because they love junsu, not because of his talent. And this is what I dislike in the fandom; most people decide to support someone because of who he/she is, not because of what he/she is.
I would be indifferent to junho now, because he hasn’t shown any quality of him that deserve my attention. But one thing for sure, I’m very dissapointed in him because he has cornered JYJ’s move, who I have been supporting all along..
@viee
no he didnt bash junsu..he just formed alliance with the other side..lol kinda like Homin in a way i guess if you want to put it that way coz they are with sm.
i know there’s more to it than what’s on the surface rightnow but as of the moment that’s how i see it coz i still dont get why he chose to sign wiht avex. it’s not as if it’s the only agency in japan. Until the day junho makes me understand why he did it then i will continue to disagree on his decision. I know he has the right to his own decision the same way that i have the right to form my own opinion about him or his decision.
Neither do I, but Im not gonna start twisting his words like she has. She’s been implying negative things about the statements he’s said, therefore she is the only person I have disagreed with. Im in the same boat as everyone else, I wonder why it had to be avex as well. I dont see it the same as Homin. Junho is his brother, has been his brother before stardom and will be his brother until the end. Situations like these are always different when actual family is involved.
Who’s Kim Junho???
ooo..Jusu’s twin brother!!!
If people are angry @ someone, this is in general terms, because something he or she is doing that you might not agree with, wouldn’t be safe to say you passing judgement on that person. Regardless of what we might think of Avex and its acctitude towards JYJ, IS JUNHO’S SAMBAE DECISSION OK. That’s the basic problem with society in general being untolerant, narrowminded, and downright disrespecful and judgemental towards others.
I’m gonna guess this comment is not to me (cause I already spoke on this)…which is confusing that you don’t know how to use the reply button (in all our other messages).
I agree. We barely even know Junho and to be making negative insiuations on his character is just too much. We dont even know the terms of the contract. So while we can speculate and be disappointed/confused about his decision, there is no need to all the extra stuff. Junho is a grown man, he doesnt NEED his little brother speaking up for him. He has spoken up for himself and has done so in a sensible manner. He responded in the best way, pointed no fingers and did not play the role of a matyr. He took responsiblity for his own actions as well. No need to call his character into question.
“f people are angry @ someone, this is in general terms, because something he or she is doing that you might not agree with, wouldn’t be safe to say you passing judgement on that person.”
No, that would be called having an opinion.
Passing judgement would be saying he’s a bad person or that he’s stupid or anything that speaks negatively of his mental abilities or his moral character.
Take notes cause this is also the definition of what bashing is.
i get it it his decision but it doesnt mean that because it’s your “JUNHO’S SAMBAE DECISSION” people has to agree with it..
there’s something you need to understand people has opinions, even if junsu agrees on this it doesnt mean i also have to agree with it because im his fan..please dont speak of narrowmindedness here, you also have to respect others opinions even if they dont agree with you..it’s not as if the disagreement is baseless and we just hated on someone without no reason at all..we wouldnt have this conversation right now if his actions does not directly affect jyj..i get that some people are more understanding than me about this because he’s still junsu’s brother and im fine with it and respect your opinion but dont go telling that im narrowminded or disrectful or downright judgmental because i dont agree with junho’s decision or your opinion..dont i have my own opinion as well..if you dont get that then you should be the one who should read your post and reflect on it..
my reply was for Hikari
I just want to ask something, Esp to fans who supported zuno’s decision.. What’s ur opinion on the avex-jyj issue, who is the one in the wrong? If avex is really that bad why would everyone want to join avex including junho, junsu’s very own bro.
As fans its important to hold on to a belief. If we cannot even grab hold of the situation or convince ourselves, i believe we can’t convince others too.. when others ask things like “why is everyone not having problem except jyj? Even their bro is supporting avex.” how should we ans? I can understand why fans get upset with his decisions.. Imagine our Japanese friends who have finally stood up against avex and just a few days ago released petitions and statements about how bad avex is and now, their supposedly “family” had decided to join that “evil avex”.. Isn’t that akin to giving a slap in their face that they’re wrong in blaming avex?
The simple answer to those type of people is Junho and Junsu is two total seperate artist, and like we can’t speak for jyj we can’t speak on why Junho joined Avex. JYJ want freedom…maybe Junho wants something different.
Note: Just cause a company has good people or good artist under it (speaking generally here not ness Junho since i know next to nothing about him) doesn’t mean the company itself is good. Also just cause they have great results doesn’t mean the company is good. Ex. How many years were JJ, Su, and Chun under SME & Avex?
junho maybe junsu’s twin but he is also an individual in his own right. if he says he want to step out from junsu’s shadow, then so be it. i’m 100% sure he has talked this over with junsu. and maybe, just maybe su said go ahead. otherwise he wouldn’t go through with this contract if su said no, reasons and all no matter how much he wants to be his own person and not just be known as junsu’s twin. i’m pretty sure he wouldn’t jeopardize and compromise junsu’s career just because he wants a successful one too. definitely not at junsu’s expense. they’re twins after all..there is a bond between them that only the two of them understand.
with all these brouhaha both of them maybe in pain right now. and maybe junho’s in the midst of “what ifs, what is, what isn’t” right now..but what was done was already done. it can no longer be undone. murphy’s law, whatever can happen will happen..this is one of them..
anyway, you don’t have to be a junho fan just because he is junsu’s twin bro..just no bashing..junsu’s fans may feel betrayed by junho’s action ..coz i surely am…but what can we do?..the more we say bad things about junho we are indirectly hurting junsu whom we love so much..expressing of opinion is fine, but telling them what and what not to do is not within our scope as fans…let them be..let them grow..it is when they experience something hurtful that they get to be stronger…the way JYJ are stronger now..
as for junho, well..good luck..the worst is yet to come and he needs to overcome it come hell or high water..otherwise he’s “stepping out from su’s shadow” will be all for naught…good luck to you boy..
JYJ fighting!
JYJ family mansae!!
Avex is totally in the wrong for the way it has been treating JYJ. I’m just as confused as everyone else is on why Junho decided to join Avex. But Im not going to start calling his character into question or even insuating that he is going against his brother. I dont know the terms of the contract, I dont know his reasons. I can only hope that he and his family have handeled this well, including the contract.
i still dont get why he signed with avex..it gets complicated because now he has siggned with the company that his brother is suing..i get that he wants to get out of junsu’s shadow but couldnt he do that with another agency or company? i would understand it better if he has signed the contract before the suspension but judging from his tweet it didnt happen that way..i dont know this for a fact but from waht ive seen junsu has given him so much already he even helped launch his career..but to go so far as sign with avex just because he wants to stand on his own and get out of his brother’s shadow..couldnt he do it in another company??knowing full well that it would affect his baby brother but he still went on with it says somehting about his character..if the situation is reversed and junsu is in his position i dont think junsu will be able to do it..
if a company is trying to destroy one my brothers/sisters career i dont think i’ll be able to sign with that company..
I’m not defending him but I don’t think he’s saying I’m signing with Avex to get out from Junsu shadow. I think he wanted to sign with Avex but people don’t like it cause they think it’ll hurt junus so his response is “I wanna be me, I don’t wanna be the person who is just junsu brother” This is a big deal cause he’s junsu brother is what he means but hif he was his own man his own self then he could do whatever it was he want and people wouldn’t talk twice. I actually don’t get why he signed with Avex either…but I didn’t get why he tried to debut in china instead of Korea either…
I guess he doesnt want to be in the same country that his brother has already pretty much taken over. It would probably further secure his place in Junsu’s shadow. When siblings are very close and or twins people expect one to follow in the footsteps of the other and its very annoying. My sister and I are 2yrs apart and we used to dress like twins for such a long time, and even now my mom always suggests I do things because my sis has already done it etc. I understand Junho wanting to be his own individual, but I dont understand why it had to be with Avex.
But dbsk was huge in japan o.o and jyj is still popular there.
But DBSK is homegrown in Korea, an absolute national success. There is less of a chance in other countries.
guess…but then wouldn’t this be kinda a bad idea cause japan still know junsu and they know the problem with jyj/avex now his brother is joining avex…so to people its gonna be junsu’s brother is joining the enemy..thats still him under junsu shadow…maybe he should have waited for the flames to die.
I wasnt talking about specially avex, just debuting in diff countries. I wonder the same thing. If it took him 7months to make this decision, I wonder what pros and cons were listed to him, or that he listed to his family.
IF I SEE ONE ONE “STOP BASHING HIM” COMMENT I WILL RAGE. NO ONE IN THIS ARTICLE IS BASHING HIM.
OH AND DISAPROVAL=/= BASHING, FEELING LIKE HE MAYBE DIDN’T THINK THIS THROUGH ENOUGH=/= BASHING, IT’S CALLED AN OPINION.
JUST BECAUSE WE ALL LIKE JUNSU DOES NOT MEAN WE A REQUIRED TO LIKE JUNHO. That is as ridiculous as the other argument I’m sure many of you know all so well: “if you don’t love all five don’t call yourself a fan!”
Remember that one?
Let’s not be like that, got it?
Anyways, IDGAF abt what Junho does anymore,he’s a grown man. Whatever happens whether it’s smth where he’s successful or flops is completely on him.
JUST BECAUSE WE ALL LIKE JUNSU DOES NOT MEAN WE A REQUIRED TO LIKE JUNHO
That right there!!!
exactly
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You know, some of the commenters here make me lol’ed. They can’t differentiate these two words. Either they’re ignorant, or they do not know what these two words means. >.>
Thank you!
Artists have to earn the respect first of their audiences not just thru singing, dancing, or acting but also how you present yourself to them thru your actions before becoming their loyal fans.
Fans tend to gravitate to people they admire. It’s human nature. No matter how good you are, if you started w/ the wrong foot in the eyes of potential fans it’ll be hard to gain their loyalty.
I agree with this. If you have a good public image you’ve got half the battle won.
@Akira said, “I personally am not a fan of Junho so I don’t care where he is either way. I just think its funny that people support him just cause of Junsu or JYJ or hate him cause they feel this will hurt Junsu or JYJ.”
THIS right there!!!
I feel sorry for Junho because it must be hard being compared to Junsu all the time, especially when he’s the hyung. Even the soccer gig has Junsu as the star, the MVP and the Captain. If only he hadn’t injured himself, he could have made a separate name for himself as a baseball player. He might always be known as Junsu’s brother despite his best efforts, IMO. Potential fans may google him and learn about Junsu and there the comparison will begin. From what I have heard from Zuno/Junho, (a friend lent me his Chinese album) his singing isn’t as awesome as Junsu’s. I wish him success though in whatever part he chooses. I hope AVEX treats him better than they did Junsu/JYJ. I am not going to speculate about Junsu’s feelings.
Me too. Ive never been a “fan” of the guy, though I love his novel tweets and always tease him about it. I would hate for his character be called into question and for him to be labeled someone he is not because of this isssue. We barely know this guy. I wish him the best as well, from the little I have seen he seems like a sweet guy. Yea, I really hope his contract is a good one, after all that has happened I pray that his family has learned better.
This article is becoming too ugly. I wish you all would be more understanding of each other and not be so quick to jump on each other. Hear each other out and see each others POV. Only then will we become a better fandom!
OK girl…we all come here because we love JYJ and want to share our opinion…with try understand each other..every body different but please share with peace, we want us better and stronger…
Maybe am jaded but i think it’s kind of too late,if you beging your career based on the fact that you are related to some star then you can never go out of it and you really can expect people to think otherwise of you,unless you prove them that you are much more than that.
I think right now is some kind of huge crisis for JYJ and those around them. This situation with the Korean media blocking them, Avex blocking them esp the charity concert, and the thing that happened in Taiwan with the gifts, now Junho. Yoochun is sick and JJ isn’t much better.
I just hope Junsu and Junho are ok with each other still. Junsu already lost Eunhyuk from Suju, his best friend. I hope this doesn’t separate his “other self” Junho from him.
I think SM and Avex are trying to wear JYJ down emotionally so they can’t fight anymore. We have to support JYJ more positively than ever and give them hope.
yes…i worries for them, they got trouble in and out…they need support now!!!
Kim Junho fighting!
I understand what he’s saying. Junsu’s well… HUGE, and isn’t this a common issue for almost all siblings of celebrities, who also want to get into the biz?
He probably is getting bashed and is having people express disappointment in his decision. But he, Kim Junho, is not synonymous with JYJ… so Fighting, babe!
I don’t like AVEX and I wouldn’t get near them with the
behavior that they’ve been displaying, but to each his own.
im amaze that when zuno tweets …jyj3 translate it…this site was flooded with comments….
more on~~ even zuno is not yet so showbiz minded… i still sympathize to him…
his just being real…
junsu is on korea
so he should be on japan
its a wise move….
i think junsu and junho agree in that career move…cuz junsu is banned in japan ,so junho will replace him for a while.
o.O
that is the silliest explanation i’ve heard
SMH
IA!..what’s up wif dat? >.<
its business dear…….. bUSINESS..~~…WHY IM SAYIN THIS…. ? CUZ IM ALSO IN THAT SITUATION NOW….^_^ hashhh……..
junsu is so popular in Korea.. so its better for him to move in other place… for him not to be out shine by his superstar brother…..
silly….>_<~~
and QUESTION…? why people here is so mean.. to junho?
he maybe cant reach junsu's level..but who knows? he can shine in his own way… DBSK5 before got bashed BIG time before…but looked! they prove that they're wrong….
His brother is almost as famous in japan as he is in korea. Atleast with China Junsu’s fame is limited to the fanbase.
If he wants to go somewhere where nobody knows Junsu his best bet is Vanuatu.
I wish him well, but i dont support his decision. Its my opinion and in my family i have one baby sister, and if ANYONE did half of the stuff avex did to junsu to my sis they’d have ME to deal with. I wouldnt go jumping into a business relationship with them.
Your argument oof “its just business” is only valid if AVEX also dealt with the split in that way as “just business”. AVEX had to go on and be vindictive and personal about it and is still actively blocking Junsu from the Japanese market.
Japan is 100x more profitable than korea as a market. It already sucks enough for Junsu to see all those hard years of work go to waste because they cant promote there.
I dont hate Junho but to say “i think junsu and junho agree in that career move…cuz junsu is banned in japan ,so junho will replace him for a while.” is just ridiculous.You dont know this.????????????????
I’m sorry but according to my moral standards and my personal views and my experience as an older sibling what he did was not cool. I would never make a deal with someone who bullied my family
I’m not going to send him hate messages, its his life
but from my perspective what he did aint pretty 😐
“my efforts to get out of his shadow, that I become not someone’s brother but just Kim Junho..”
those who have younger brother/sista who is more successful than you are, will understand his feeling. You want to be known as what you are, but no matter how you do it,people tend to compare. Well, its just reality of life. You cant escape from that. The way i see it, he will be compared forever because he can not deny it, he is Junsu’s brother. That is a fact. The only way its going to change if he is become a bigger name than Junsu. But still, people will compare, but with a different tone
Do i like it he sign with Avex? The answer is no, because what happen to JYJ can also happen to him. But as he said he will take responsibility for his action. He is not a little kid, he is a man with his own opinion, his own thought and thinking. So i am fine with that. No matter what he does, it doesnt matter because he is just another artist who want to make a name for himself. It’s just that he make it tough on himself by signing with that a** company. He has to built another skin coz people will say all sort of things to him. Wish him luck on that. Yoohwan will face the same thing if had signed with another a** co. but thank god he didnt
Must i love him because he is Junsu’s brother? Meh.. why should i? I hate it very much when people said if you love jyj, you must love 5 of them. Love and respect is something that is earned and not pass from one generation to others like an old cd or old shirt. I love JJ too, but must i also love all his eight sista?
In my opinion,maybe he got tired being compare to his younger brother.it just matter of pride or maybe he want to be recognize because of his talent not relationship with junsu,thats make him statement as above. I respect his opinion but I am JYJ fan.I know him because of junsu.No matter what I will still recognize him as junsu’s brother. And I never follow his activities and maybe not following him at all(sorry junho). JUst maybe he want true fans that recognize him as himself. Unlike park yoohwan,he want to be compare to his brother,and at the same time want to prove his talent to make his brother proud of him. maybe this is the difference between this brothers. I’m sorry to brought this mater up but anyway I unfavourable junho when he decide to debut with A*. lastly,hope his future bright on him without his brother impact.
Just be yourself and happy, Junho. Nothing is more important of that. Junsu will support you.
Is there any point in understanding Junho’s motivations? *sigh in bewilderment* *scrolls down and sees more news of JYJ suing Avex*
We have one brother, half of a pair of twins, suing Avex, the other brother, other half of the pair of twins, joining Avex.
If this is not irony in its richest form…
(if this wasn’t happening in real life, I’d have thought I was reading some Shakespearean tragedy, or perhaps, more fittingly, comedy, in this case.)
This entire
haishh..i hope everything is alright for KIM JUNHO..
i understand he really wants to out from Junsu’s shadow which is gonna be so hard for him, coz Junsu is so popular in everywhere..but at least give him a chance.. everyone deserves a chance to try even if it’s so damned hard.
Hwaiting Kim Junho!
Sorry if this sounds rude, but I think people just won’t stop comparing him to Junsu, we know that Junsu is almost perfect in terms of singing and dancing, and his acting is also highly recognized. When Junho enters entertainment industry, he should’ve realize this first. And, to be honest, it’s almost impossible for him to reach Junsu’s level.
If there’s no shadow, light cannot shine.
Sometimes, being someone’s shadow is necessary and important.
I think people who knows the importance of being shadow can success after all.
to be compared to your sibling……..tsk~~..>< its more painful than to be compared to other people…
anyway…kim bro's looks okey when i saw them in FC men…~ no conflict!! .. so NO problem to me^^~~~
At the end of the day, he made his bed now he’s got to lay in it, he can’t honestly tell me that he wasn’t expecting poeple to bash him or show their dissapointments.
The entertainment world is harsh, now all he should do is just sit back and and wait for it all to blow over and try not to make all this get to him.
If he comes out okay at the end of this he’ll know he made the right decision, if he doesn’t then…
I’m still dissapointed in you Juunho 😦 but good luck, something tell me you’ll need it 😀
to each his own.