Editor’s note: We deliberated on whether to post this article and our decision was not an easy one. The JYJ Files wanted to ignore “the other side” and felt there were many things best left sorted out in the courtroom. However, it was very disheartening that after the cosmetics business accusation against JYJ was proven invalid by the court, instead of just letting it go and leaving JYJ alone outside of the courtroom, there are still actions taken to publicly malign JYJ. As we all know, JYJ stand on disadvantageous grounds for they cannot even appear on television to defend themselves. We wish the other side would leave JYJ alone and instead, focus on building their new brand image. Instead, new accusations against JYJ’s characters were flung. With KDG, even though we were disappointed with Yunho’s answer, The JYJ Files have endured it for such a question from the host might be expected for that show. But with Changmin’s recent answers on Chosun Ilbo (the largest newspaper in South Korea), we realized that these defamation tactics will not cease and JYJ will not be left alone. As fans of JYJ, we are stepping up to the plate to present facts that showcase the situation as it stands. In doing so, we hope that people become aware of the reality of the situation and will step up to the plate to guard against further slandering of JYJ’s names.
In the end, we presented the facts and our readers have a right to know the facts. We did not want to create controversy, but to refrain from posting what Changmin said in his interview with Korea’s largest newspaper and what Yunho said in one of the most popular programs in Korea, out of our desire to avoid controversy, would have been a disservice to our readers. These things are public and widely commented upon in Korea where people can read them on their doorsteps, but since the international fandom is once removed, we faced the temptation of censorship for the sake of peace. In the end, we stand by our decision to reveal the facts despite how uncomfortable they may be for some of our readers.
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I have to update myself by reading all the posts I missed.
NOW THIS? Why I got butterflies.
Let me go and read.
huh? what now?
I know they are human and they have feeling but if they treasure the friendship they had for the last 7 years,they would stop talking about JYJ and let them go.
Homin, you guys have the option to leave. You’re not leaving. No one is forcing you to stay. You’re not victim of this. Move on with your life please. Leave JYJ alone. Let them go. Your decision to stay with SM sure make you happy and you’re not miserable with your decision isn’t it?
If you even want to leave now, it’s possible. Why make yourself victims and JYJ the traitors? JYJ owe NOTHING to anyone, including Homin.
Quit bullshitting on national television. Promote your album.
Stop talking about JYJ if there’s nothing nice to say. Stop destroying the friendship and the feeling JYJ cherish about you two.
Who can understand what is behind Homin? How big SM Entertainment is!
I believe that 2 years or 3 years’ friendship could change. However, almost 8 years, do you think it is easy to be broken?
No matter what the reason behind HoMin there’s always an option…Leave or stay… unfortunately they choose to stay
…anw even father can kill his own blood, why do u think 8 years of friendship cant be broken?
it’s simple people change, people always change with reason or no…
Yeah, even marriage of 15 years change. It’s not that really impossible.
SM being big doesn’t have anything to do with HM decision. They made the decision for their own interest.
They could have left with JYJ but they didn’t so now they have to act like victims on TV.
Again, the point is they do have a choice, a way out but they chose to stay so they should accept that JYJ are now free and so if they have any feeling left for JYJ they wouldn’t defame JYJ on TV while knowing JYJ is banned from TV.
@Xiaochi Kim
Dear, if you are an adult in the right frame of mind, you cannot be dictated by someone else to do something you don’t want to do.
HoMin are adults. They always have the choice to do what their hearts are telling them to do if they really want to help the three clear their names. But they have so far done nothing close to that.
again and again!!! plz dear Xiahochi Kim…ask HOMIN “do u think 8 year friendship is easy to be broken?” instead of JYJ’s fans…And this is my question for you “some maniacs often daydreaming and imagine for what??” —> ….
btw Everything can change!!!! >.< plz dont keep closing your eyes and think more logically…Wake up!!!! DO YOU LIVE IN FAIRY TALE???
Yeah. What’s with the bunch of stinkbombs thrown at JYJ. They should just shut up and concentrate more on upgrading their own artworks than pushing JYJ down. The way they switch their statements made it obviously obvious they’re just looking for a way to condemn JYJ.
I agree with you! Why cant these two left JYJ alone??? I don’t really understand the reason why they keep on bullshitting JYJ on national TV&newspaper!! JYJ has never wanted to discuss about Homin in every interviewed they had. They still treasure the friendship but look what these 2 moron (I am sorry for Homin fans, but this is how I see them now) said about JYJ! I am so pissed! I used to love them too but it hurts so much knowing how sharp their tongue is when it comes to JYJ. I tried my best to positively processing any comments that came from them but I don’t see any good deed up till now…Now I don’t even care about this 2 anymore. Every time I saw the news/article with their names on it, I just wanna throw up! >.<
Now we all know the reason why JYJ keep on receiving the abundant love from their fans, so, Homin and the hotel girls I can see you grab your shovel and continue digging your own grave for what had come from your mouth are killing you! T_T
yes, I’m so dissapointed with Homin recently..
I don’t know why they act like this.
I don’t JYJ is like what they said.
I think they have been driven by SM or their parents to act like this, but no matter what they have said that and its really hurting so much for JYJ’s fans also for Cassiopeia as awhole..
why are they acted like this????
I am so sad..deeply sad sad sad sad and sad…
I’m drowning in a sea of sadness now…
why’d you make me hate you, Homin?????
please leave JYJ alone, please leave them now with their own life. Its enough to them, these problems are too much for them!
REPOST:
>.>…that’s an even worse attack than it was before with the cosmetics business.
Oh homin, you continue to disappoint me.
this quote comes to mind: “Show me your friends and I show you who you are.”
If JYJ have such “weak moral character”, then how does that make you look for having been so close to them for so long? See how stupid this whole thing looks?
This is getting ridiculous, JYJ, having gone through all this crap have shown that they are STRONG mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
This is so low homin, you should be ashamed.
I completely agree with you!! You took the words right out of my mouth!!
WORD UP!
I can use the same reason for the two of them, though – they stayed because of their weak moral characters due to their early success. They didn’t want to leave SME because they’re afraid of what would happen to their careers if they did.
Both sides had losses from the lawsuit, but if they’re happy with the choices they made, then that’s that.
copy paste my previous comment in TheJYJfiles:
Sigh~~~fancy seeing you here HoMin. Well what ever….Changmin’s comment on how Junsu is inhuman for his tweet and Yunho being busted lying about so many things pretty much makes me being ignorance towards them. They already a history in my life. They already gone in my heart. What ever comes from their mouth since then doesn’t matter anymore to me. They just another idol in everyday Kpop. Nothing more, nothing less.
Junsu was, in my opinion, unfairly smashed for that tweet. To me, it was a cry of pain from the heart from someone who had just been figuratively smacked in the face with the shocking realisation that a friendship he had been holding onto, believing that it was still shared, was in fact dead. That he could only contact HoMin by twitter also spoke volumes. NOTHING about that tweet made Junsu inhuman, if anything it showed just how human he is.
A+! And the fact that even when Junsu cried his heart out, he never badmouthing these 2 with his unethical words. Shame on you homin!
This only confirms my strong belief that these are not Yunho’s and Changmin’s thougths. Just like the previous “cosmetic company” version, this one is made up by SM and were given to the boys to repeat over and over. I would like to know their own thoughts so much… 😦
Fans can only shield HM with the “SM’s making them say this” excuse for so long. At what point are fans going to accept that yes, this is how they really feel?
But I would prefer to know their own problem with JYJ, not the official stand of the company in this matter.
oh god wake up
they sound sincere to me when i watch the interview..
so sincere that if that is acting then it would be their greatest performance coz ive never seen them act that good on their own drama..
Like really?????
I’m done with “oh poor HM being led by the noses by SM and have no choice but to attack their friends” bullshit!!!!
Why are you shouting? I didn’t say they are forced to say bad things about JYJ against their will. I just said that these are not their own thoughts because it’s obvious that these sentences are the official opinion of the company. But I’d like to know what problem Yunho and Changmin have with JYJ. That’s all.
Shouting is in caps, babe. -_-|||
I’m just surprised!
You have your stand and I have mine.
I see recent actions as prove that HM had expressed their thoughts.
Are they or are they not puppets?!
You wanna know their thoughts?
Scroll back up and read the article.
Tired of people going the “OPPA DIDN’T MEAN IT!” route.
I can only repeat what I said above. I didn’t say they are forced to say bad things about JYJ against their will. I just said that these are not their own thoughts because it’s obvious that these sentences are the official opinion of the company. But I’d like to know what problem Yunho and Changmin have with JYJ. That’s all.
Look, if they aren’t forced to say it ( and I don’t believe they are) then they must agree with what is being said in one way or another.
My earlier comment still stands.
Guys… You can’t tell me that you still don’t know at least that much about celebrities… *facepalm* Just like politicians. Half of those what they say are not true, just what PR told them to say… Not just HoMin, JYJ too. And DBSK when they were still five before. Celebrities have an image to uphold.
@vik720
Screwing your ex-members isn’t upholding their image to say the least.
I know what you’re saying (and I don’t appreciate you talking like I know nothing) but this is not a politician’s answer nor is this a usual celebrity answer. This is as clear as a cloud less blue sky on a summer day.
This is meant to be a directly inflammatory stance by attacking JYJ’s moral character.
For homin to say it and to endorse SM releasing it as their stance, it’s the same as agreeing with what is being said and written until they clarify otherwise (and they won’t).
@Shadow Really, I give up. 😀 With “upholding the image” I was referring to the connection between celebrities and PR work, not HoMin’s bashing JYJ…
they more reason to understand that what they’re (HoMin) saying is not a total control by SME. They realize they been talking “scripted answer” in national TV and still they did it for the sake of work eventhough they BS about their brothers for so many years? That’s even more pathetic and low if you ask me.
And JYJ eventhough its PR work too, never once they talk back about HoMin, except Junsu emotional tweets (which is ambiguous) and Jaejoong tweets on the phone calls. Both tweets even not bashing them etc, more on display of dissapointment. JYJ only comments on SME.
“I would like to know their own thoughts so much… ” Honey, they been telling their thoughts over and over again. There is no such thing as “complete control by SME”. Get real and accept the reality. There’s a rift in their friendship, they had hurt each other, they had betray each other, they fight with each other….all those had leave scars in their heart. Friends fight and have disagreement all the time. The differences is that whether the fight reversible or not. If you believe in their friendship that pray that their wounds will heal and they will forgive each other in future.
Its useless to feign their innocent with SME-total control theories. You only fooling yourself.
100% agree.
And I can only wholeheartedly agree with you! What does this have to do with what I said??? This is the official stand of SM repeated by HoMin, but I’d prefer to know their own problem with JYJ because I know they have. What’s wrong with me wanting to know their own thoughts on this matter and not something that was written by by PR?
re-reading your comments and I understand your comments better. I apologize if I sound bitter towards you.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to know, except that you will never know. We can only go by what they express in public. Everything else is speculation.
Now if you want to start speculating here I’m up for some fun…
AMEN!! TOTALLY AGREE!
i agree with this but i have to say this.
Friends that Fight, keep Contact. Work things out privately. A Friendship is not Stupid Enough to let it go out Publicly and make themselves Fools.
and here goes Yunho saying he cant get in “contact” (in a interview)
Jaejoong tweets that he DOES contact and just texted him to check his mail.
No Response.
What The Fuck. Did sment Block it? or not Tell Yunho?
if it’s twitter it cud have gotten to Yunho and Changmin just like Junsu’s tweet.
at times i think “are they Puppets”?
I’m going to reply to you, vik720, rather than one of the others. I wonder exactly the same thing.
It is very obvious that Changmin and Yunho are following the SME script. They knew that the cosmetic company had nothing to do with JYJ leaving, but that was the party line so they stuck to it. I wonder if this new stance is closer to their own or simply another SME tactic.
Either way, just the fact that they are making the statements makes me roll my eyes.
Thank you. At least there’s one person here who understands what I’m talking about. I’m not protecting HoMin. I just want to know their own problem, not SM’s official stand. That’s all.
@vik720
I also wonder what were the real feeling of HM. Although they maybe swayed by SM, I still believe there’s got to be something that maybe ‘adds to the fuel’.
But in the end, i just hope they won’t speak about JYJ again.
I mean’ Adds fuel to the fire’. Sorry.
Maybe they and their company have the same stand? Otherwise, they’d be on the other side fighting with SM with JYJ right now.
THIS so freaking much.
How hard is it to understand that simple fact?
Stop with the SME-script-feeding BS already.
Idols said some hurtful dumb shit – OMFG how shocking
i also think SM make all this.. it’s too obvious.
But THIS IS THE PATH HOMIN CHOOSE… I just hope they like their choice, even it’s hurt me they are choose with SoMeone who hurt their brother. I am fine with that and respect it, but i just not agree with them.
Quoted from JJ, “For you to live your life”… I just want to move forward, and I can’t if i think for both homin and JYJ, we can’t please everyone.
@vik720
i understand how you feel too.
for those who are tired of that, we still have hopes in HoMin, your feelings is the same as how i wonder why cant you hold some hopes in HoMin.
so please, you have your thoughts, i have my thoughts.
we hold our belief, and you hold yours.
until anything that stop us/you from believing wht we/you believe.
but we both side have 1 similarity isn’t it?
we love JYJ!
im hoping everyone here can be nice to each other.
cuz, some of the comments are like saying,
my thought of having hopes in HoMin is wrong.
(maybe im sensitive or different language lead to different understanding as english is not my native language.)
no offence. peace everyone. =]
Yes, I too hope that we can be nice – at least civil – to each other.
Alas, in situations like these, people are sensitive toward any opinions (particularly those that seem to defend the bad guys) contrary to their own, no matter how slight the disparity.
@vic720- It would seem as if your opinion is a rather unpopular one here… 😀 And, to be honest, I do believe that they believe what they are saying, to a degree. Why else would Changmin sprout that weird line about a goose the other time? And other incidents but I believe you get what I’m trying to say…
@vik720
if we are watching the movie Skyline, where peoples’ brains are taken from their bodies to be used by aliens, ill believe that. but then again, i won’t, cuz the male protagonist was still able to protect his pregnant girl friend even after having his brain transposted to an alien body. so no… that reason doesn’t work…
oh god wake up
they sound sincere to me when i watch the interview..
so sincere that if that is acting then it would be their greatest performance coz ive never seen them act that good on their own drama.
@vic720: I know that you are not justifying Homin’s words behind the “SM-is-Orwell’s-Big-Brother” excuse. I can see that you are genuinely curious about Homin’s personal motives behind this. (I initially did too.) But, it’s a lost cause, a Catch-22 situation: they rattle on about their side of the story to the press and media, claiming truth, yet we don’t – can’t – know if they’re spewing PR schwill or actually revealing personal thoughts.
Thus, at this point, your question is trivial; the quest for answers, fruitless.
What matters is that the deed was done.
i dont care about that two anymore/..
hi5!!
hi10!!
@lauw and @kei… Hi5 and Hi10 with 5 thumbs up (includes 1 extra toe eheheheheh).. seriously. .Nothing the two will say can reduce my love for JYJ.. the more the two do this.. the more i’ll love JaeChunSu.. If HOMIN are stubborn.. for sure I am too.. Action speaks louder than words.. print ads and shows fades but the soul and the influence a person make last a lifetime to those that had been touched by their lives.. HoMin’s statements will be just for a moment but the change in KPOP JYJ is leading will be something that will be enjoyed by the generations to come (until Jesus comes)
I think it’s time for those guys stop speaking about JYJ and live their life , like Jae said : ” For you to live your life”
Only LOSERS talk much about the past.
Too troublesome .
Dont want to talk about them any more.
Agree 100%
so true. It’s like an ex who keeps on mentioning the past because he/she can’t move on. They’re probably regretting their decision to stay.
It’s quite controversial issue. The question “why?” won’t disappear that fast. Their anwers=their choice. But yeah it’s frustrating.
Seriously HM will only have themselves to blame if they turn most fans against them.
Initially, many fans take the route supporting JYJ and of trying to be neutral about HM.
Recent things spoken out of their asses really hit the fans in the head!!!
Wake up people!!
HM had taken the side of SM and are used as weapons against JYJ out of their OWN free will.
They are not who we knew before, or perhaps we never really know them…
To SM: “…you may have created my past and screwed up my present but you have no control over my future.”
TO HM: “Losers live in the past. Winners learn from the past and enjoy working in the present toward the future.”
To SM: “…you may have created my past and screwed up my present but you have no control over my future.”
*like*
TO HM: “Losers live in the past. Winners learn from the past and enjoy working in the present toward the future.”
niceeeeeeeeeee said. *like*
Your are so cool *___*
Sweet. 😉
my opinion same with you….if they’re still continues their statement like this absolutly there are more fans who gonna take the route supporting jyj instead than supporting them….
since lawsuit case occur and they are made statement like this, i can’t find any reason to support them anymore….
before i still keep my respect even it’s just little to those two but now it’s really gone
Yes, as is said “you made your bed, you gonna lie on it”.
Although we can take note of this switch, let us not use it as a reason to bash Homin. It’s time for them, their fans, JYJ and JYJ fans to let it go… they have make their choices and JYJ/JYJ fans have made theirs. Bashing on both sides would just making the wound worse… let’s be positive… and let’s cherish the good memories that have been.
Seconds
Cosigned.
Although, I wish the next time reporters decide to bring jyj in 2tvxq interviews their answer would be no comment and leave it at that. If you don’t have anything good to say it’s best to keep shut, won’t do well on their rep.
seconds
I have been taking the burying head in the sand approach 😦 I try to avoid reading these stuff, why? I didn’t want to read what they said and get emotionally upset.
I don’t want to bash them but I don’t like what they have been doing. Why can’t they just move on and concentrate on promoting via their numerous channels given SM’s vast resources and contacts. I’m sure if the company wanted to they could avoid talking about it.
Everyone has freedom of choice, all of them made a difficult decision, whether it was to stay or to leave. Even if you can’t agree and even if there were arguments, respect each other’s choices.
The things HoMin have said so far does nothing for their credibility and is turning people off. I can’t believe SM is this bad at PR, don’t they have people monitoring public response? Either they don’t care or maybe it was worse, they wanted to turn public opinion against JYJ and were seeking sympathy. Now, not only was that a bad move, it pushes them even lower in my eyes. I have no sympathy whatsoever for whiners. You feel unhappy with something, you deal with it or after adequate venting you move on if there’s nothing you can do.
Some people might argue that there’s no concrete proof that Yunho lied but I thught about everything logically and have concluded that he has at least omitted to speak the truth. With that conclusion I find it hard to trust him again, in fact, I watched old videos and found myself questioning what he said in the past too. This is how damaging lying can be.
A piece of advice to them, if you keep saying negative things like this it just backfires on you. How you deal with the situation reflects on you as a person.
I shouldn’t compare but what JYJ has shown me since the lawsuit is their sensitivity to everyone involved and most importantly their emotional strength.
Are you me? I’m taking the burying my head in the sand approach as well. I love HoMin (I’m Changmin biased) but I really can’t agree with most of the stuff coming out of their mouths. I’ll still love and support them…but at the moment I can’t agree with their choices right now.
agree 100%
I don’t care if SM is bad at PR or not. It is true that these words came out of Yunho and Changmin’s months. That’s enough, it reveals the true color of Homin. And to me, they are now way more ugly then ever.
IA
sooo true! ❤
I agree
your arguments arent persuasive at all !!! U come from anther planet not the Earth, right?? So go back to your homeland…Love and peace only exist at least here-this site when HM stop smudging JYJ >.<
to not let some people confused… I write one more line ….My comment is to @LoveandPeace…
@junharu: Honestly, I’m not sure what you mean. Can you please explain what you mean by “so go back to your homeland”? What do you mean by “homeland”?
Regardless, I have no intention of arguing. I just wish to encourage people to be positive in their love for JYJ.
@LoveandPeace: >.< u dont understand what i wrote?? It's too clearly dear!!! Look up 'homeland' in any dictionary and 'argument' also…lol…
btw i meant you should go back to your planet where you come from and the meaning of argument' wasnt what u thought…lol…
homeland meant where u came from in this case…lol…
and exactly ‘homeland’ means the country where a person was born in oxford dictionary…And…hmm…you were born in another planet not the Earth…Yaaahh~~ i just feel tired of explaining such stuff for u becoz it was a very simple sentence and those words were not too difficult to understand…
I suppose it is possible for me to look them up in a dictionary, but I wanted to clarify more directly from you, since I wanted to be more specific (and in context) than what a dictionary can tell me.
Anyway, I believe you don’t agree with me… and I will just leave it there.
For one moment I did hope It could be a good news… After read the article, well… But what surprise me was that I had hope in those two… Unbelieve!
Hehe silly me!
I don´t want to know anymore about them! >__<
JYJ fighting! ^__^
Same for me. I initially thought, this is a positive news.
So much for hoping, I guess..
Its ironic as to how HoMin seems to stuck with the past and unable to let go. To switch stance from one to another different matter is seriously embarrassing and pitiful of you ask me. What happen to them? You can tell that 2011 going to be Big Bang year. I dont see them doing anything major at the moment. Sure they were heavily promoted and got so many activities but none can be consider as breakthrough.
Im bitter for making a comparison between them but its obvious that Junsu, Yuuchun and Jaejoong had accomplished so much such short period of time. The gap is too large to ignore. I said this before and I will say it again, with the rate of things been going on so far and with the lame decision they been doing, they will remain stuck in the glory of the past, they will never be able to escape the bitterness of reality. HoMin you had been left so far behind the road. You need to run to catch up not waiting for passerby to help you.
Agree, 2011 is definitely going to be Big Bang’s year. Big Bang’s comeback was just so explosive, they totally killed it. They dominated the charts, digital charts included (unlike HoMin) and yet their album is only a mini album, not even a full album !! Can you image how well they are going to do once they release their full album ! GTOP and Seungri’s albums were amazing too, they really surprised me. Their style is totally different from the other korean idols groups and they actually write their own lyrics, compose their music too, and they are going to produce their next album ! How awesome is that ?
It’s funny because there is this poll on AllKPop about the top 10 comebacks of Q1 and Big Bang is winning hands down. I mean, even non VIP are voting for BB. TVXQ2 is second for now but Cassies are going crazy, trying to convince everyone that TVXQ2 are the best and that BB sucks. I personnaly voted for G.NA because she has strong and gorgeous vocals, can dance too, and it’s a change from all these typical girls groups which all sound and look alike. But I think rookie groups such as Dalmatian, Infinite or Teen Top also deserve to be in the top 5 (or even top 3) since they didn’t had all the hype BB and TVXQ2 had and their comebacks were so great !
I totally need to check out BB since everyone is raving on their comeback, which sounds pretty awesome for the looks of it. At least they have no problem living up to their hype. Onto the so-called Return of the King well, it was severely underwhelming IMO. SME just recycling same old beats and hand-me-downs now. Give 2VXQ concept to the SHINEE babies and I wont even bat an eye. It’s all the same to me.
@chuxx Im not a fan of BB coz their music is not my type of music. but GTOP collaboration album change everything. Their improvement is just amazing. From the MV to the music and details in the album, all scream high level of production. Seungri solo album is great as well. He grown so much. And BB 4th Album? The MV was so beautiful and every songs in that album can be a tittle track if you ask me. New BB works in conclusion is a masterpiece, imo
Okay I know I’ve been in and out of fandom lately but did something happen? Again?
Nvm I thought something happened, clearly I need to read thoroughly before commenting. Excuse my sleep addled brain.
What? Changmin again on Mar 22. What the hell he was thinking? Who gave him the right to talk about JYJ like that? I was so disappointed at these two. They make me sick
No matter what, no insults. Please. It still hurts when they get attacked by the fans who once loved them. No matter what the circumstance, be the better fan. The fan who was able to let go without bitterness or without ruining the people she/he once loved.
Whatever~! The past is the past. We use the past to illuminate the future, we don’t take the past to the future. Therefore, let it go. HoMin is part of my past, a past I loved. However the past must remain in the past, so I will let them go. I have absolutely no idea of what is “truely” going on,therefore I respect both sides’ choices, for I do not own them. However because the one person (The Micky) I can’t allow to stay in my past (at least not just yet) is in JYJ, I have to move forward with JYJ. Nothing less, and nothing more.
JYJ <333 AKTF
And I don't care about HM ;p
i will love that this kind of thing comming out stop…im sick of them…we just need to be happy with jyj…and dont look to others
this just recently posted here but already lure 28+ comments. Definitely a “war post”.
Insert Jaepopcorn.gif here
Okay HoMin being this and that, seriously not new anymore….I want Director Kim Hard photo updates!
lol…Jaepopcorn and Director Kim Hard…. let me join you..*munching Jaecarrot…
…I really need to get my mind out of the gutter. The images my mind conjures are just XD
@Aki seriously me too ngeh…ngeh…ngeh
LOL Ohh you two definitely would XD
But I totally misread Jaeporn for a moment there O_O
intermezo heard that director kim fulfill one of his dream in Thailand today. and that is RIDING AN ELEPHANT Congrats Congrats
@Aki – you & me both! 🙂
i don’t think it will be used to bash the other 2.. the thing about this article is trying to point out their sudden change of claims.. i just don’t get it, when people talked negatively against JYJ, it’s ok. Then when this things appear, it became bashing? i guess clarifying things isn’t nor never will be called bashing.. If their names got dragged cause of this issue cause it needs to be clarified..
Nicely put 🙂
Hmm honestly this two are dead for me, I don’t even want to said their name or acknowledge that there are these person anymore.
I feel nothing seriously. I’m tired of their victim act and blaming their so-called brother. What do you want from us honestly? MONEY right..
Stop your nonsense and work hard if you said you haven’t work much in the past.
I agree with most of the people here. As much as I want them to be a big happy family again, I just can’t stand HM anymore. They are most definitely influenced by SM ENT as to what they say in regard to public broadcasts. But still they chose their side and they are losing (in court and in success). I don’t have much sympathy for them anymore. Sure it sucks, but JYJ has never bad mouthed HM. It’s just not right. And clearly JYJ has been amazingly successful without them. JYJ Fighting!
What do you mean “they are losing in success” they’re doing well for someone in their position!
HoMin is doing good, not great. What they’re saying is that as “Kings”, their success should have been bigger and better. But it wasn’t. SM promoted them extremely heavily (comeback & drama) but the results are no where near where they should be.
I wanna know will I find this kinda interview someday?
Host: The fans must be curious about the 3 members leaving. What’s happened, exactly?
Ho/Min: Well, we just have different opinion about how we will pursue our career. We both chose to stay coz we feel that it’s still the best for us. We just hope that they will succeed in anything they’ll do and though we won’t be under the same company we just hope that our friendship will last (forever).
*roll eyes*
*sigh*
Or can just they not talk about JYJ?
Yunnie, don’t start mentioning JYJ’s name. Your show will still have high rating even without making “sensational” comments. Have faith!
And dear Min, they just asked about “TVXQ after JYJ withdrew”… so just talk about TVXQ(2) just don’t drag JYJ along.
tbqh i actually hope both sides can give such answer
In a way JYJ did.
They did show their support when 2vxq came out with their album.
This just show which is the better side:)
JYJ already bid their wish for HM success in their earlier interview…
yeah JJ did give answer similar to this. I was kinda shocked actually to see Min’s comment on March 22. I thought they’ve moved on seriously. Well at least they should realize that if this kind of question pops up again, they’d better let Yun answer…(roll eyes).
Honestly when I first saw this post, I thought it was a good news. I should’ve known that the chance is friggin slim.
@9mmleftshinki your user name used to be just 9mm right? LOL~
i always thinking what happen in the future… will the 5 tvxq members have perform together under 1 stage… personally, i think it is quit diffucult (but i still have hope for it)… We dont now exactly what they are thinking..
Although right now i’m JYJ bias..but HOMIN is still unforgettable….. I still updating the information bout the DUO, changmin is still my favourite….(fan is really in difficult situation)…
We love TVXQ….just hoping all of them can live happily with their love one….
Okay for one second I was spazzing like crazy because I thought the title was “Yunho and Changmin switch their stance TO JYJ.”
That was my first reaction, too. I don’t think that hope will ever really die.
LOL tbh me too, I clicked on the link so fast, then got slapped back to reality. I’m no ot5 but it still gets me ide…
me three but after read it its makes me fume more to homin
XD
I thought that TOO!
I was like OMG…then I was let down.
Me too… I have a wild imagination that they release a statement beneficial to JYJ’s side or they have defected…they are leaving sm…(all in my dreams!)
Yeah me…what is it now, six? Me six. 😦
Yeah, me too, my heart skipped a beat and I was like “OMG !” but then I read the article and yeah…nothing new…
Clearly HoMin are not gonna leave SM, time to let it go.
As Yoochun said : “Yes, in the end it is JYJ” ♥
😦 me too
🙂 I thought i am the only who think like that. With such high hope, i have to read it twice, in case i read it wrongly. Poor me
JYJ never talk bad about them..why they keep on throwing rubbish and unpleasant words to JYJ?? hm are so unfaithfull friend..HM career are making a scandal and announce it!please just focus on your acting& singing &other career that your beloved SM do for you! leave JYJ from your stupid confrontation!!! JYJ are now billions% better then you.
I don’t know how long I can keep up with them,Homin,I’m trying so hard not to say out loud those bad words to you both ….Don’t make me loose control…Homin ,stop to make yourself more “ugly,b%%%%%,######…”,by keep telling those lies ,stop trying to prove you’re good guys , or innocent, between everything ,because you ‘re not the 2 peoples we knew any more,you guys have been changed -SM ,They successfully brainwashed you, and now you would go on raids with them, live with them, and genuinely believe in their cause. ….
Ho Min , … So keep your mouth shut and stop talkin’ “sh.t”, because I’m sick of you bitchin’ …
I wonder if this will turn up on 6theory. If we are not pro active antis will definitely takeover.
I aint even mad about this anyomre. Its like reiterating the obvious.
i guess the remaining ot5ers heads will spontaneously combust.
Changmin, what, what, what are you doing? Look at your life, look at your choices!
Seriously though, eat a tub of comfort ice-cream, get laid, and move on with your life.
lol….
spot on ))
No more talk of cosmetic shiz i see. lol they know they’ll lose the lawsuit now they wanna make JYJ lose all their credibility. shame for homin because it only makes them look worse! i feel sorry for those who dont see them for what they truly are……
Gosh I agreed to everything you said because their only stance against JYJ was about the comestic business and now that the court ruled the comestic business has nothing to do with JYJ so they have to find other unrealistic stance to go against JYJ in court. And it’s funny that they went with ” weak moral characters ” as their stance LOL. I swear that JYJ have showed us fans plenty of times that they don’t have weak moral characters, actually they showed us they have stronger moral characters than ever without SME.
yeah like the showcase in US case, seriously if it were SM, the shithead would just cancel it ==;
To SM, their people and their supporters,
What kind of world are you living in? Whatever that is, I am glad that I am not part of it….
Well well that was a big ASS disappointment right there!! anyways……Homin talking BS about JYJ…..tell me something new….ummm “SM lost to JYJ in Court” NOW THAT IS A BIG ASS OF A GOOD HEADLINE!!
JYJ FIGHTING!!
….SM GO BURN IN HELL!! 🙂
Sometimes I feel like asking them to listen to this http://youtu.be/GK7CLXHSr1M
@NingK, that is a spot on song right there 🙂
Like most others here I am indifferent already. More and more we can now see who are still relevant to the industry and it’s not HM.
In their first interview after their comeback they said they wanted to keep the TVXQ name alive. Sadly, it looks like basking in the glory of a long forgotten season is all they are ever gonna have.
Meanwhile, JYJ has moved on. Today we even received pictures of Director Kim, news of the first filming day of Yuchun and the conclusion of another successful musical for Junsu. HM are just talking about the past.
Well all will never know the full truth, All we know is that 3 guys want to leave, and 2 choose to stay. It’s doesn’t mean there in a fight, it’s just matter of difference in ideas and things they want out of life for themselves. Us fans are the ones that are taking things the wrong way and assume things that we don’t really know. Yes there are PR’s and question and answers that are thought out before hand on both sides when dealing with interviews… Yes there is a problem when someone says “ohh they left for “Money” So that would make me think that they are NOT getting the money they feel they deserve. Just like when you work at a job you look forward to that rise at the end of the mounth if your intitled to it. Also do we call sports players who leave there team cause another team is welling to pay them more money a trader.(don’t tell me i can’t compare that cause sports is entertainment too). Also there is something wrong when people feel it’s wrong to invest money that you work hard for just cause you want to see it grow. Well why is it not wrong for Boa to buy Shares in SME? What is the difference. (ohh let me answer that isn’t cause its SME?*sarcasm*..)But the point is she invested in SME meaning she wants to gain and get money. This is how Rich get Rich and Stay that way. So why is it wrong that JYJ wanted to do the same… JYJ are not happy at a place they felt they put all there trust in and work hard for. For Homin they felt there weren’t’ major reason not to stay. I don’t think there is a ref between them. But I do know when your in a law case no matter of the kind. You are not allowed to talk to the counter part. And being that Homin are under SME for now they can’t talk to each other until the case is over. Lets try to leave HOMIN out of all these , it’s JYJ vs SME… JYJ have moved on from all this so should we as fans.
IT DOESNT SEEM LIKE HOMIN HAS MOVED ON! CHANGMIN’S LIL INTERVIEW WAS HELD TODAY AND LIKE SOMEONE SAID, THE QUESTION WASNT REALLY REFERRING TO JYJ!
Let me ask this , Why are you screaming at me first. Next I know the article was held today. All I stated was my opinion on the matter wither it was directed to JYJ or Not. I feel fans should move on from it wither HOMIN have or not. And being that your statement at the end saying it wasn’t really referring to JYJ states my point. Then that means I will move on and go to more positive stuff like JYJ World Tour.
The problem is that HoMin is SME’s major weapon in the war outside the courtroom. Every interview has a mention of the split. SME is using them to remind fans that it’s JYJ’s fault that they don’t have TVXQ5 anymore and to spread implications about the nature of their failings.
It’s good for JYJ fans to know what’s being said. I don’t follow TVX2 news anymore so these summaries are the only way that I know they are even still mentioning JYJ.
Now if only the trolls would stay home, these articles wouldn’t have such a high comment count. Everyone would read, nod, and move on.
Just to clarify, I think this post is doing very well both on the lack of trolls and keeping an even temper.
JYJFiles, however, has not been so lucky. (I’m still kinda shell shocked)
Gosh.. @o@
I see ghosts!!! (trolls)
Why are there so many there?
No where to go and can’t find love anywhere???
LOL yes JYJFiles got far too many concern trolls.
Every interview has a mention of the split. SME is using them to remind fans that it’s JYJ’s fault that they don’t have TVXQ5 anymore ==> EXACTLY
Boa didn’t buy those shares, she was given the shares when she signed a new contract which ends in 2012
@jaechun
I perused your comment, and while you have every right to go to any site and leave one, please try and remember not to confuse ourself while making it. Having said that, I look at this part of your comment and I can only say one thing…
“Lets try to leave HOMIN out of all these , it’s JYJ vs SME… JYJ have moved on from all this so should we as fans.”
TROLL speak never changes. Take care, and have a nice day.
***that should be ‘yourself’*** oops.
First and for most. Really READ what I wrote before you start to call someone a troll. This site is for JYJ so who is the one really Trolling… Did you just skim through my statement and pick out things and turn them around for your own benefit. I didn’t put one inflammatory, extraneous,comment here …
@jaechun
First off, if I offended you by calling you a troll. I apologize. I did peruse your comment, but quite honestly, it ran together so much, it was confusing. There were places where it did not make sense, it seemed as if there was rambling going on. There were places that seemed contradictory.
In any event… one of the places that I was wondering about…
“Us fans are the ones that are taking things the wrong way and assume things that we don’t really know.”
Have you been keeping up with the court decisions? The courts have debunked every argument SME has made. I don’t think there is a single solitary JYJ fan who frequents this site who doesn’t know what’s going on. If HoMin are going to continue to make comments about JYJ, maybe they should prep themselves first by keeping abreast of the court decisions. That way, they won’t seem so out of sync with the truth.
“But I do know when your in a law case no matter of the kind. You are not allowed to talk to the counter part. And being that Homin are under SME for now they can’t talk to each other until the case is over.”
Well, considering as you mentioned below, this is between SME and JYJ, why is it ‘others’ from SME can make direct comments to JYJ but not these two? What am I missing here? When Yunho said no one had tried to contact them, Jae made a point of trying to send him an email, and Yunho lied and said he never did. So, if there is a no contact rule, even though this is between SME and JYJ, why the need for subtrafuge? He even went so far as to say JYJ had changed their phone numbers. How would he know?
” Lets try to leave HOMIN out of all these , it’s JYJ vs SME… JYJ have moved on from all this so should we as fans.”
Ok, it’s JYJ vs SME, then why can’t HoMin move on and stop trying to trash JYJ, when JYJ has NEVER done this to them? Frankly, the ones who need to hear that message are HoMin.
Thank you for now making what you felt wrong about my statement clear. One I was rushing I happen to be at work at the time so things I wanted to say and get out were a bit rushed.
What i meant by we should leave homin out of these I meant as in articles about them cause all they bring is negative feeling I’m even starting to have them I don’t like feeling hatred towards a member of a group I’ve watched since debut. Also When I said Us fans are taking things the wrong way and assuming things we don’t even know. I do feel in some cases we are I include myself in this. One is cause I can’t always trust what I read when it’s translated there are to many different version of what someone might have said or did not say so then later it leaves for misunderstanding and assumptions.
(Well, considering as you mentioned below, this is between SME and JYJ, why is it ‘others’ from SME can make direct comments to JYJ but not these two? What am I missing here? When Yunho said no one had tried to contact them, Jae made a point of trying to send him an email, and Yunho lied and said he never did. So, if there is a no contact rule, even though this is between SME and JYJ, why the need for subtrafuge? He even went so far as to say JYJ had changed their phone numbers. How would he know?)
I agree with you, I have thought about that myself. but I was just stating something I do know when in most law-cases you not suppose to talk with the opposing side. I’m not trying to say JYJ are lying in anyway. For me I just didn’t want to see that there friendship is lost.I have accepted that it might be though.
(Ok, it’s JYJ vs SME, then why can’t HoMin move on and stop trying to trash JYJ, when JYJ has NEVER done this to them? Frankly, the ones who need to hear that message are HoMin.)
I do feel homin shouldn’t say anything I should have mentioned that in my earlier post first. And your Right JYJ have never said anything bad about them if anything they said to support them..
Maybe Homin should instead of talking about JYJ , work on looking happy singing there song and put some soul behind it to make me believe they love that there doing…
I’m just going to support JYJ and enjoy there growth as artist.
Again thank you for pointing out what might have made others misunderstand my words. For a minute I got very mad at the fandom and wanted to leave it, but I listened to MISSION and got right back to loving JYJ even more.
amen to that! ^^
Well Jaechun, it seems as if we got off on the wrong foot, but found a way to get back on the right one. Again, my apologies for the misunderstanding. This entire situation is emotion charged. It is probably going to be that way for a while. The best we can do is take deep cleansing breaths and recharge from time to time. Look forward to conversing with you in the future. I’m glad you decided to stick around. 🙂
i used to be really excited and proud whenever tvxq is mentioned. but not anymore, all that left is sadness
‘lack of moral character’ is implied based off their statements. I mean I read them and I’m not sure what they are implying, I don’t even know if they’re implying that it’s lack of ‘moral’ character. But since the writer is claiming that this is what they meant I will comment on it.
Homin’ and anyone else who agrees with Homin/SM, who truly has the ‘lack of moral character’ here?
Cause they where young and swept up in success is why they filed this lawsuit, yeah the new reason huh. What exactly are you implying Yunho? That JYJ thought that they were going to receive great fruits for their efforts under SM? And that he and probably Changmin was aware (while JYJ weren’t) that being an artist under SM will not supply appropriate fruits for labor? Okay Changmin says that idols get more than the average at a young age yes I agree, but this incident was when they where at the height of their success, as adults, and they received deficits? Like I said before, was it just MICKY? or…cause Homin come off to me as if they didn’t receive any mismanagement from SM financially on their end (but obviously they did cause they all wanted to leave at first). On top of this claim that it’s was their ‘youngness’ and ‘success’ that eventually came to this lawsuit lets remind ourselves that JYJ and I assume Homin also didn’t ‘willingly’ engage in this imbalance business with SM. They were manipulated into assuming business with SM would be clear and just, because of the whole ‘family’ ‘trust’ stigma SM uses to lure them and their parents in. Their parents signed the contracts, they were YOUNG and unaware that SM really didn’t give a rats ass about them. So to say this ‘young unawareness’ will soon mean a lack of moral character as an adult for JYJ…pssh, how? You guys were UNAWARE. To do something stupid being unaware at first, you have no accountability for that and therefore no judgment of character can be placed on an unaware person. That’s why…as adults they (JYJ) grew into awareness of the shadyness of SM by being their own man, now making their own choices to listen to what’s all around them, ultimately to understand fully what they got themselves into rather than strictly having SM in their ear I assume like they had when they were much younger. And with this new found sound, this new knowledge at their adult age of what it meant to be under SM, they wanted out.
Homin do you get it? Who in this situation was fully aware of all of this, the manipulation of youngsters into a wacky contracts…SME. So who really has the lack of moral character here?
That’s all. I’m moving on.
Keep digging a hole for yourself Homin.
Y’all recent track is nice though, the video with the guns and shooting and all that so don’t match the song but meh. I still have like this much love for y’all but if y’all just don’t shut the hole in you guys faces when it comes to JYJ please! Cause it’s nonsense.
If you can’t contact JYJ and speak directly to them and get it from the horses mouth why they decided to file a lawsuit and leave then don’t speak because it will only be assumptions.
Speaking on contact, please contact them. Like SOMEONE please initiate contact and speak so these guys won’t keep assuming and holding grudges probably for nothing.
Anyway…blah blah blah let me move on to other posts I missed.
woah seriously long comment and I agree in everything you said except your comments on the video coz HoMin is not in my interest so I dont watch and update myself with their recent music. Thank you for your effort in explaining the whole thing. If only haters read…sigh. Lack of moral…such a strong accusations they pull there… I believe JYJ know all this and as much it might hurt JYJ I hope they watch and acknowledge all this dirt being throw in their face. Never once they comments on all the drama SME Family been pull. I seriously respect their golden silent.
@Shhh
I feel your frustration. Sometimes it helps to get it all out.
My question to Changmin regarding ‘weak moral character’, how weak is one’s moral character to openly admit there was the possibility of NEVER being able to do the one thing they cherished greatly to do – to sing – and STILL take that walk down the plank together!
To me that defines courage, backbone, choice, faith, and last but not least, the RIGHT to be grown men! Changmin do you recognize any of these character traits?
well, i think high IQ doesn’t automatically equal to achieving maturity or being a grown man. now as for Yunho, idk anymore… i am frightened for him… i don’t know which of his friends he will have left to stand beside him when the time comes that he’s in need of the REAL ONES.
That’s a very interesting point you made about…
“i don’t know which of his friends he will have left to stand beside him when the time comes that he’s in need of the REAL ONES.”
Again, that issue of ‘moral character’. If you are showing the ability to throw supposed ‘brothers’ under the bus to maintain your career, what else will you be willing to do? I truly hope his future won’t be as bleak as he is making his present.
One thing is for certain, we never know when we’ll need a few good friends. I’ve been blessed to have some of the best friends in the world, wouldn’t trade them for anything. Over the years we’ve always managed to be there for one another. There’s nothing like it!
Homin. SMH. Can’t they just stop talking about this issues. I’ve never follow them anymore but why is it in almost every interview, they feel the need to brought up this issues. Can’t you just move on? No need to tarnish your image anymore. I used to love both of you (heck Changmin was my 1st bias) but I realise that both of you have changed so much. It really hurts me.
and Changmin, they ask you about TVXQ after the three members leaved. Why can’t you just answer that damn question straightly?
Homin just stop la dragging JYJ like this. We’re already tired with all this. Move On.
I wish … they move forward.. just like jyj do.
Stop put their great energy at waste word, it’s make their fan upsate and dispointed.
If in the future.. they make their reconciliation, I think it’would be great..
I Love TVXQ, I Love JYJ
is it morally weak to aspire for higher dreams?
they often said in the past that they want to be known as artists someday not just idols. as long as u stay in sm u will always remain as idol. sm does not groom artist, just idols.
looking back at their vids when they were 5 made me realised that it was Jaejoong n Junsu who always voiced out wanting to be artists not just idols. i dont see the other two ever mentioning wanting to be more than idols. that explains their situations today.
well said JYJ its an artist not an idol, idol can sing, dance and act but they can’t affect and inspire their fans like artist do, like JYJ do
If JYJ coninues to support them, then so will I.
Also cause I’m an OT5 fan for life LOL
I’m saddened by this, but I could never hate HoMin.
JYJ left because of what SM did to them, not because of HoMin.
Just felt like I needed to say this after I read the comments, it made my heart hurt. Too much unecessary bashing 😦 The artice was used to show how HoMin’s statements changed, not so everyone here could bash HoMin. Let’s lessen the bashing and be a bit more mature, please?
Don´t take words too personal.
I only want you to understand no everyone here was cassiopeia and no everyone can get over when someone hurt the ones we love!
Keep your OT5 love! ^__^
if you don’t want homin got bash (though I don’t think we did) you should pray that homin wouldn’t say anything (bad) about jyj anymore.
@lauw agree!!
@lauw: right!!!!
i guess it’s out of context to tell it’s bashing when the article’s title clearly stating that about their change in claims… again, if clarifying things is called “bashing” how can one clear things without saying their names?
@EE123
You don’t come here much do you? This site is one for JYJ’s family of fans. We support Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. This is our house. I’ve said before, you don’t come here and insult the family’s house.
“Let’s lessen the bashing and be a bit more mature, please?”
If you are not comfortable with the members of this house supporting and taking up the back for our charges, JYJ, you don’t have to come here.
When HoMin and others try and assassinate JYJ’s character, that’s an open invitation. If HoMin can’t find it within themselves to stop demeaning JYJ, then they should be the ones to ‘be mature’ and act like adults, and not spoiled brats who have had their new shiny toy taken away.
PEACE
THE TRUTH!!! 100%
Thanks for stating your opinion~
“You don’t come here much do you? This site is one for JYJ’s family of fans. We support Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. This is our house. I’ve said before, you don’t come here and insult the family’s house.”
I actually do come here a lot, I just don’t comment much 🙂
I never insulted anyone, and if I did, it’d towards those poeple who are making lame comments that just outright insult HoMin.
Disagreeing with what HoMin said is OK, but judging their characters isn’t right. Whether they’re evil puppets or not, I admire how they work hard and are successful amidst all the chaos, and that’s what I think about JYJ as well.
And I never defended HoMin, I remember that I said I was disappointed with what they did.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say 🙂
Let’s just move on and support JYJ, guys.
Let’s not sink low to all those JYJ antis/HoMin stans.
The sides will just keep on clashing, otherwise.
Support who you wanna support, be it one or the other or both.
Just… no bashing. Be upset, disagree, but don’t sink to that level.
“Just… no bashing. Be upset, disagree, but don’t sink to that level.”
I can’t agree more… 🙂
Hmm this makes me more sad and disappointed rather than angry.
Changmin and Junsu were originally my bias and I always say that I hate what homin have said and done not that I hate them.
The only reason im not hating them right now is because of how much I loved changmin, I loved him to bits….this really breaks my heart.
I guess only junsu is my bias really now and I cant bring myself to follow homin activities because it always end up with something bout JYJ.
Homin really needs to stop right now and be the men they were, because fans like me who arent hating them yet are on the verge of losing it and sooner or later they’ll lose us too.
A+++ my thought also
Yanno, it’s stunts like this that make me question SM and their PR team. Honestly, SM is playing with fire. If they continually put HoMin out with these comments, they’ll either gain the sympathy that they wanted or will crash and burn and chase away their old fandom – the fandom that built them to what they are. Idols without a fanbase = no money, SM.
Long story short, we won’t know HoMin’s real stance until they’re old and out of the business. That’s when they can say the words they want to say without the current repercussions.
Because right now, whether fans like it or not, they’re still within a company therefore they’re subjected to company solidarity. If SM’s PR wants to play like this, then their artists will also follow those rules, regardless of their own individual voices. This ain’t America, folks, where you can say shit and still survive in the industry. If HoMin want to continue with SM for the foreseeable future, then they’ll play by SM’s rules.
All I’m doing is eyerolling at the excuses and ignoring SM’s tactics to gain ‘sympathy’.
My second comment in this site, i guess^__^, me who always being the silent reader >_<.
so my comment for this post "what did they (HM) say again this time" *Munching popcorn while reading*
4 minutes later.
ooohhh, I see.
yeah live goes on man. do what you want to do,
and dont bother with other people lives.
Just stop talking please.
and for that maknae "watch out your tongue boy"
*goes back to working her paper work again*
have a good day JYJ family *wave*
I don’t know what to say. Before the law suit, I nearly came to the point that I loved 5 of them equally, just love JJ a little bit more. Until the end of 2010, I was still full of hope for them to unite after hearing JYJ talking about how much they missed their two friends.
But what Homin said make me sad. I do not blame them for their choice to stay. It’s their career, their life, so their decision.
But I haven’t felt the love that they had had to JYJ from their talking. Why did all things come to that point? I deadly want to know what happenned to them in the time they were aparted.
I have the same hope with Jaejoong, a hope that everything’s alright until when they can meet each other.
I keep this faith in 5 of them, for the hapiness of my beloved Jaejoong. I know he will be more than happy if he can meet with Homin again. I know he still keep his faith in them. And I believe in Jaejoong.
Dear Yunho & Changmin
I pity you guys…why?coz you’re both old enough but you act like a child who’s crying over spilled milk.move on!be man enough to accept that no matter what you say against JYJ it won’t destroy them.
Yunho,Changmin…you’re destroying no one but yourselves….It hurts to see you acting this way…This things won’t happen if you left SM all together.I was really sad & disappointed coz in my point of view,you didn’t trust Cassiopeias as much as we trust you guys..If only you did,it would have been easier for all of you to fight SM & you wouldn’t have to be PUPPETS anymore.I love JYJ more because they were the people who showed me that nothing is impossible as long as Cassies/JYJers were fighting together with them.they’re the ones who made me feel how important Cassies/JYJers to them…
Anyways,I hope & I pray that you’ll find peace in your hearts.And that one day would come were I can see 5 of you together & having so much fun just like before..
from a 22 y/o girl who’s in love with Boojae..
i,m with you ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
i wish everyone stop.
HoMin shouldnt have done this to JYJ.
lets put -whether is this their own words- aside first.
JYJ choose to leave, HoMin choose to stay.
so just get on with your life, and do not talk bad on each other anymore.
if this is SM manipulation, just another thing prove that SM is stupid. SM is pulling down HoMin’s fame by allowing them issue such opinion and on-show-talks.
seriously, im disappointed with HoMin.
still have hopes, but slowly fading away.
their old videos and memories are what make me for holding hopes, i cant say that five of them are pretending to be happy in the past, isn’t it?
they just look so happy.
just how did it become to this?
to make clear, i love JYJ and i do not think JYJ are traitors.
i believe both sides, but im losing faith in HoMin slowly.
though, i could never hate HoMin.
as many of others commented, HoMin have to follow SM’s rules as long as they are working with SM.
we outsiders could never knew what really happened.
Well, SM has already milked a lot of profits from TVXQ and they will still earn money whenever an old album/DVD/photobook etc gets sold and they will get profits form digital downloads and KTV rights.
Even if HoMin fades out now, SM still has other cash cows in the company. Now that I think of it this way, I can understand their ‘bad’ PR. They have to make JYJ the people who are ‘bad’. It doesn’t really matter whether they succeed or fail. The company doesn’t care about JYJ or HoMin, they care about the status quo. No one should be able to leave like JYJ and succeed. If it happens, more artistes will try to leave and there goes SM’s profits.
You found the heart of the matter.
@NingK
Eliza is right, you found the heart of the matter.
But I will add this…Yes, their aim is to sabotage JYJ anyway they can, because they know they are going to lose the case. In this sense they really don’t care about HoMin, if they can use them as battering rams, since it’s obvious folks are reacting negatively to their behaviors.
“Well, SM has already milked a lot of profits from TVXQ and they will still earn money whenever an old album/DVD/photobook etc gets sold and they will get profits form digital downloads and KTV rights.”
Keep in mind however, once all the legal matters have been reached about the contract, then the REAL work begins…JYJ regaining their copyrights and royalty rights. This is where the above statement you made will be the end of SME’s ‘cash cow’. Their share in all that will diminish greatly. Lady Karma will see to that. 😉
@ ButterfliesAreFree
Hope JYJ go after copy rights and royalty once the lawsuit is over. If they have a fair chance of winning that case then they should.
But am not really sure that jyj will go after their royalties and copyrights of their own songs.
@hakuna matata
“But am not really sure that jyj will go after their royalties and copyrights of their own songs.”
I so hope you are wrong. They worked so hard for their dreams, they are due everything they worked for.
Ah… well…
I don’t know what to say…
I know that it is scripted… I mean… all show in Korea (and the rest of the world) are mostly scripted…but It still hurts… T-T
I never watch Homin performance or interview anymore… because it hurts… *sigh*
It would a lie if I said that I didn’t want all 5 to comeback together… or if I said that I didn’t wish the lawsuit never happens…because I do… I do wish that the lawsuit never happened so that the word TVXQ still means the same… Yunho-Jaejoong-Yoochun-Junsu-Changmin…
However…
I also feel thankful that the lawsuit did happen…
Whithout it, we can’t have the worldwide concert in seoul, NII & NR photoshoot, Thanksgiving live in Dome, the Beggining album, Music essay, Junsu in Musical, JJ in intermodulation & Elle TV, Yoochun in SKKS and Ripley… nor we can’t understand how mature these three are, how much love they harbor towards us, their fans, how amazing their talent are…
I love JYJ for fighting for what they believe in…
As for Homin… Please be healthy and I wish you luck… 🙂
your comment makes me think i must be thankfull for the lawsuit esp JJ Elle TV its never gonna happen if they still TVXQ
I don’t object to them talking about their position. The issue isn’t done and settled after all, either legally or emotionally. I just don’t agree with them. 😀
same here .. What i mean is well, even if JYJ Really is wrong, They shouldnt shouting out loud on the public.. Come on, be cool… Ppl are not stupid.. Now, they are using weak agruments and bashing other ppl… Seriously it reflects bad on them…
i hope JYJ3 didnt do censorship just for the sake of keeping peace. This site had been my ground coz its baldness and go all bare with every controversial issues it might bring. I hate to be hurt but I hate to be keep in the dark above anything else. What TheJYJfiles and JYJ3 did these past few months contribute a lot to me. I hope freedom of speech and the right to know every news, no matter how bad it is will lives on in both these two sites. Please continue doing what you did and never change. Keep up the good work.
typo *boldness*
MTE
I’m done being treated like some dumb kid being spoon fed based on OTHERS assumptions of what I need to read.
I can’t stand how most OT5 sites filter out info under their own discretion without thinking of their readers’ capability to judge the said article.
Just because I can’t read Korean/Japanese doesn’t made me a complete idiot.
IKR? Delivering news supposed to be delivering every single info in that news. If it serve to be all fluffy and rainbows just for the sake of “keeping peace” i rather not reading about it at all. Enough with fairy tale land, after two years, at this point of time everyone in these fandoms, OT5 or new fans should deeply understand the possible rift and bitterness of this fandom already. Maybe Im naive to actually hope that everyone to be all accepting no matter how hurt the news might be.
“keeping peace” isn’t that like their freaking mantra? Drove me nuts back when I used to visit their sites. For whose sake are they doing all that anyway? (I found out one of the admin for certain OT5 site is really just hardcore stan for one coupling, could be wrong, though)
It’s not naive, I totally agree with you. I think compared to most groups, DBSK fans are the most matured since most of us do grew up with the guys but of course there still be a few cray cray ones. That can’t be helped. But the majority shouldn’t be subjected to censorship just for the sake of the few.
God, I had a horrible headache reading all the comments in jyjfiles but jyj fans rock. Seriously, I’m proud of everyone.
Just curious what happened at JYJFiles?
There are ghosts, i mean trolls, there…
Scary~~~
@Shadow LOL just got back from there. WTH were those uhhm creatures (because they’re such a fail as trolls XD) think when they stepped into a JYJ fansite? They never learn do they? Not unlike their idols~
Love how everyone keeps on owning them and their shits. Keep it coming JYJ Army XD
Yeah, even the admins were bashed. And they’re quite persistent.
For those who said, this is not relevant and will only cause more conflict,it does not hurt to be vigilant. And dctvxqgall motto applies to this.
Seriously… when they will learn to move on?
JYJ
&
JYJ FANS
FIGHTING!!!
SIGH… Saying this you are only damaging yourself, my dears.I really want to know what are your REAL feelings. OMG this looks like a tv drama!I really hope this is a happy ending drama!REALLY…
LOL, this is a very very weak argument, just by simply manipulating their words. I see no difference in changing stance ayada, yada. It’s still the same stance.
If u think the translator manupulating HoMin’s words then u should read the korean version, they have link there. But then I dont think you can read Korean otherwise you wouldnt say this
Manipulating the very words that came out of their own mouths?
BTW the title implied their stance ON JYJ – they are still very much siding with SME on the whole. Just an FYI so any of the SME lovers wont be worried.
the same stance?? Well, yes ,, i would also say those are SIMILAR stances in a way that both hold the intension to dishonour JYJ…
I also agree with u saying that the arguments (made by Homin side) were very weak… 😀
I suggest u should stop staying in Homin+SME’s illusions!!!!
i’d like to send Changmin the chorus of “Empty”: let it go..let it go…let it go..
the interviewer didnt even ask him abt the past?!
sign…
is changmin stupid or what? i just read the article, the reporter ask about tvxq2? not tvxq5…. very2 stupid
Fuuuu… wow! Somebody needs to bitch-slap their spoiled brats’ asses! Didn’t their parents teach them not to lie – apparently not. Like fathers – like sons.
Disgusting.
A+++++++
well said!!!! clap, clap, clap…
Wati!!! I didnt hate Homin but clearly my Bias is JYJ.. But i hate to see SME and Homin bashing JYJ… I was one of them who wanted 5 to get back together but if Homin keeps on doing that, i think the chance is too low… *sigh*
But, even if they were forced by SME, they should think the fact logically… what i am saying is
Homin>> The success at the young age caused their moral down or made them craving for more money and success or so..
JYJ>> They left SME with the mind that “we might not be able to perform on the stage (in Korea at least) again”
So, it shows that JYJ knows that they would not be able to involve in K-pop industry if they sue SME.. My question is “what kind of success they could probably gain from Lawsuit?” I am sure JYJ will not simply think that “Well, lets sue SME so that they will let us go easily.. So we can do more performances and activities and get more success and money” .. I would say, JYJ is more on disadvantage side from the lawsuit and honestly, the chance of JYJ wining is extremely small cuz SME has more power and money and i am very sure they didnt expect the fans to be so strong and supportive like this (no offence)… What they have is just the truth …
So it makes ppl DUMB ASS if they say JYJ sue SME cuz of the money or fame… If they hate JYJ, just say ‘I Hate Them” .. Dont make urself Dumb ass!!!
That’s exactly what i was thinking! you just took the words outta my mouth! A+
very well said!
A+++
The reason I clicked on liking the post is the way JYJ3 presented it. Not what HoMin and their fathers gave as their reasons, which everyone knows are totally bogus!!
This is only my opinion~~~ but I think when all 5 had agreed to leave SME, then an hour later after HoMin’s fathers talked them out of it, prolly with all kinds of promises from SME, they agreed to stay. I’m sure they were told they would be given dramas, TV and all kinds of activities to do and papa Ho could write a book. I believe HoMin had been jealous of the tremendous talent Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu had shown. If they had left with JYJ their careers might not last cuz they have less talent. All they can do is dance and harmonize, Yunho’s voice isn’t that strong but he can dance good. Where JYJ can act, write, compose, arrange songs, dance very well and sing like angels and direct!! I think SME told them that JYJ won’t last cuz they wouldn’t be able to get on any TV shows or get any kind of promotion of their songs.
What SME didn’t take into consideration was the K-fans, the J-fans, and all the I-fans from all over the world! Now SME is getting desperate, using all the idols they have under contract to slander JYJ, even trying to get boa’s mom, etc. When that fell thru, making SME look like idiots, now, they are using their so-called hyungs and that is really soooo sad. Because of this, it’s backfiring and more and more HoMin fans are seeing their true colors and are finding out JYJ are not the bad guys in this scenario. JYJ has never lied, never sed a bad word against HoMin and has shown everyone nothing but love and kindness. SME has done many underhanded terrible things to JYJ and we’ve been trying to do what JYJ would want us to do and not bash HoMin, but now when HoMin keeps bashing our beloved JYJ, we just can’t let everything slide anymore.
I use to be crazy about all 5, but when JYJ broke away from TVXQ knowing what the consequences were gonna be, and they might end up becoming farmers and HoMin did not try even once to stick up for their bros!! (I can still hear yunho and max saying, “it wouldn’t be TVXQ if all 5 weren’t there”, “if it wasn’t all 5 members it wouldn’t be TVXQ”) That’s when I loved JYJ more than anything!! I could NEVER trust HoMin again, they are HISTORY!!
JYJ FIGHTING!!! JYJ FAMILY FIGHTING!!!
BRAVA!!!
Author! Author!
i love u comment…^_^
🙂
Seriously I don’t care what these 2 say anymore because there is no sense and meaning to it. When JYJ opens their mouth its all about their activities and tours, their future projects, how very thankful they are to fans. In short they talked about things in their lives that no matter how hard it is for them right now (with the cockblocking et. al. ) they are taking their stride one step at a time and find meaning in all of this with a smile on their faces. And recently their “TAKE HEART FOR JAPAN” say it all to me of what sort of human beings they are. On the other side, we have these 2 persons that still clings to the past fame of a group called TVXQ, spouting words their management asked them to say, this actions shows to me how bitter and hurt they are. The reason they talk and still continue to talk about JYJ in my opinion because JYJ IS WORTH TALKING ABOUT. Their actions both in and out of their works says it all. It very sad that the other 2 can’t do the same.
It never fails to amuse me how delusional some people are…when the truth is smack right infront of their faces they can still find excuses to justify the action.
I guess love really IS blind.
I bet if one day their love one stab someone in front of their eyes, they will still have claim it was the other person that ran into it.
And yea I guess SM is holding HM’s family hostage to force them to do and say the things they want them to say.
~duh~ <_<|||
ROLF!
LMAO let duh~~~~~ together….
Guys, do u even know this voting system??? JYJ is nowhere on the list.. What happen???
http://chartcentral.frihost.net/cc/index.php
Vote for JYJ!!! Spread the news around… Thanks..
i just vote for jyj ayyy girl. u can vote again after 1 hour. currently jyj in no 5
Voted ^^ I don’t mind Ayy Girl (it’s an awesome song to run to) but I wish so bad they’ll release Empty as their next single.
I need JYJ news since now I’m just spamming this post. Sorry…
i also added JYJ for EMPTY, like heads of 2 ppl
LMFAO!!!! Going to vote now, ‘snicker’*^^*
This is so sad. I wish Homin would stay as professionals but……silence is GOLD.
err JYJ have said their peace back in december ’10/january ’11. Not a single bad mouthing to either SM or HoMin.
so anywayyy… fast forward
actor park yoochun is filming Goodbye Miss Ripley in Japan
musical actor kim junsu is enjoying his time after a successful musical TOH while apparently taking pleasure in driving.
director kim jaejoong is preparing for JYJ world concert in thailand while practicing elephant song
JYJ have clearly move on. Pity the other side have not.
Keep the thread classy guys~
Leave the name calling and bashing minimal.. dont feed the trolls
Wow the comments/war~~~~ let cleanse our brain cells with this perfection (again)
Oh JJ ♥
nosebleedd……
thank you xD
Oooooohhhh~!!!
:Q__________________________
*brain officially cleansed* God Bless!
Jaejoong the director of the world tour.
Yoochun his eagerly anticipated drama-even though it just started filming two days ago^^
Junsu and his mind blowing ToH
these guys got the class,the brain,honesty,patience and most of all they proved that they are a pro!!
where as with the leader who-knows-nothing and his rest of the TVXQ2 the “screamer”
they are so stuck up with the past and totally soiling the legendary name of the TVXQ!!!
god!!i cant believe this is happening!
Even if it seems difficult to accept, is the stark reality, the name of TVXQ has declined in value since the couple clung to want to “guard” to avoid be forgotten by his many fans.
You said it! >’D
AMEN!
Sigh….. I am worried about how low Homin can bring down the name of TVXQ.
Bad pr is bad.
SM is trying to win pubblic opinion and subsequently the judge opinion by putting all the blame on JYJ but the only way they can do so is by presenting JYJ as greedy and immoral the problem is nobody with a half functioning brain and knowledge about the lawsuit will believe HoMin bullshit,sers who would believe a murderer wife when she is says he is innocent?!?
I don’t think HoMin has been forced to go with it,they must have agreed willingly to it,if SM was really forcing things on them they would have left just like JYJ specially after seeing that they can achieve success even without SM back up.They must be butt hurt that now they have to work 5 times harder to achieve things that are no way near to their previous level,they have been heavily promoted and they have been doing countless fanmeetings and events still their sellings are nothing exceptional but what do you expect?When you turn your back on your fans by lying to them and they find out about it of course they will turn their back on you too,not all of us are hormonal teenagers some do have brain.
Personally i find their continuos changing statments pathetic,they need to grow a pair or at least try to find a way to launch their careers without sounding so childish.
I was an OT5 but after their countless proven bullshit i don’t care about them anymore,i usually don’t comment on any article related to them on any kpop sites but i do it here and only cause it involves JYJ,it seems that they can get people interested in them only if they talk about JYJ!
It’s sad to notice how TVXQ name has been dragged to the mud thanks to them,they lypsic and they win awards that based on charts should have gone to others,more than based on the fact that they are good singers the special treatment reserved to them it’s only cause they use TVXQ glorious past,ain’t that pathetic?
Instead of talking about their future and how better they can get,they can only say how good they were in the past and bad mouth JYJ.Why don’t they try to find a way to beat BB,to improve their dramas ratings or to come out with better tracks?Their last song is good if only it didn’t sound so similar to “Take you down”…
Their stans are even more pathetic they are trying to convince people that BB sucked and that best comeback so far was HoMin….sers TVXQact2 haven’t even achieved half of what BB achivied in 15days since their comeback:topping ALL the korean charts,charting on Billboard and on US/Canada/Finland/New Zeland Itunes chart,being flood with positve reviews no matter the autotune,banking 6.2USD million on the first 7 days and beating TVXQ5 pre-sale record for digital single!
…There is only one song that come in my mind when i read their comments or when HoMin talk about JYJ:
U c me
Hustle hard Stack paper
It’s alright ya’ll haters
It’s nothing We major
U c me Hi Hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater
Yeah. Dolla Bills ya’ll. Lotta bills ya’ll
New year tryna touch me a mill ya’ll
Came up now. I’m what’s Up now
WHEN U SHINE ALL THESE HATERS WANNA TALK DOWN
I don’t feel a way about what a people say
It’s alright luv I let a hater hate
Pull up on them see them paper plate
See da oyster perpetuate day 2 day
It’s a fact right. Niggas act trife
How they smile in your face then they back bite
I JUST LAUGH RIGHT.MAKE EM’ MAD LIKE
WATCH THEM TURN AROUND AND SAY HE AIN’T THAT NICE
Getting bread dough. Mad head hoe
Seems like they don’t love you till you dead yo
LET EM’ TALK DOG IT DON’T PHASE ME.
IT MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT IF THEY DON’T HATE ME
Hustle hard Stack paper
It’s alright ya’ll haters
It’s nothing We major
U c me Hi Hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater
Yeah. Let em c me
HI HATER
Pull of easy. (BYE HATER )
U don’t like me? (WHY HATER?)
WONT’ U TELL EM HOW MAD I MAKE YA
I ain’t caught up. In all da hot talk
Caddy all White. Call it Scott Storch
U don’t feel me. Ice grill me.
Hate so bad. U wanna kill me
What it did Dog we getting money here
Wanna snitch man get us a 100 years
That’s sad dog. Why you mad 4
Is it the face on my bitch or her ass dog
Y u Like dat? Dat aint right black
WE BOSS OUT IN DA CLUB.U DON’T LIKE DAT
U KNOW U LIKE DAT.U WANNA BE ME
WHY U TWISTIN YOUR FACE WHEN YOU C ME
Hustle hard Stack paper
It’s alright ya’ll haters
It’s nothing We major
U c me Hi Hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater Hi hater hi hater
U c me Hi hater
Where the haters at. All the hatin cats
Yeah Look in the mirror nigga hate on dat
Can’t fuck wit me or keep up wit me
So u run and tell a bitch not 2 fuck wit me
CUZ WE BALLIN.YA’LL CRAWLIN
It’s aight muthafucka keep talkin
More money Brings more Henessy
More Hate
More Snakes
More Enemies
Can’t change dis. Niggas ain’t shit
Wild out pop more champange bitch
Still G’z up. They won’t ease up
It’s cool Niggas hated on Jesus
Can’t tell em’ nuttin. Niggas say I’m stuntin.
When they hate on you then U know U doin somethin
Hustle hard Stack paper
It’s alright ya’ll haters
It’s nothing We major
U c me Hi Hater Hi hater Hi hater
U c me Hi hater Hi hater hi hater
U c me Hi hater
So I’m not the only one who found it weird that HoMin won so many awards when their digital sales are so low, and much lower than a lot of other idols I mean, awards are mainly based on digital sales and yet HoMin won some awards wich should have been won by idols with higher digital sales. It was kind of disturbing for me, I was like “what the hell is going on ?!”.
About the lipsynching, I noticed it too but delusional fans still refuse to accept the obvious truth.
And OMG they use back up singers too ! WTF is that ?!
Nope you are not the only one there was a whole controversy about it when they started winning with KYHD…
Yep they use back up singers to enhance their voices and keep up the notes meaning that if you take those away the live for that track would suck but then they would probably say they catched cold XD
I hate it that nowadays when I see or hear about TVXQ, the name of the group, I get a disgusted feeling in my mouth. I used to swell with pride each time I read TVXQ news before KYHD.
To this post, however, I felt nothing. Perhaps I’m used to their behavior by now.
I don’t get how it went from “they’re just trying to figure out what’s right and wrong for themselves” to “OMGZ JYJ HAS WEAK MORALS!!!!11!!!1”
here come the trolls!!!!! Dont feed this trolls!!!! Everyone I have cookies~~~~ Im giving everyone these pretty and delicious cookies!!!!!!
Give me one!!
Oh, Jesus. Listen, I’ll make sure to preface all my comments with “JYJ is my bias, but” from now on, okay? Is that better for you?
Sorry if I am not so quick to interpret everything the way you people do.
Im giving you one!
Its a local cookies! Semperit Cookies!
@lolwut
Babe, perhaps there’s a misunderstanding somewhere but don’t use “JYJ is my bias but…”
It’s what most HM fans pretending to be OT5 or JYJ fans use… -_-|||
I tend not to frequent blog comments, so I get what you’re saying, but either way, it’s uncool to immediately judge someone as being an anti or troll just because they choose to offer criticism. I obviously don’t want to constantly say that I’m a JYJ fan because I think that’s unnecessary and ridiculous, and to be fair I do understand the fierce loyalty that’s to be expected here, but man, come on.
got any chocolate ones?? ^_~
You mis-read the quote. Changmin said that JYJ needs to figure out *how to discern* right from wrong, implying that they don’t know how to tell the difference. That’s a pretty harsh statement. It’s implying that JYJ are not mature enough to be able to make their own decisions, that their judgment is questionable. “Weak morals” is actually a pretty soft way of summarizing the new line of attack.
”I don’t get how it went from “they’re just trying to figure out what’s right and wrong for themselves” to “OMGZ JYJ HAS WEAK MORALS!!!!11!!!1″”
That was my reaction too, don’t get it. 🙂 That’s not what I saw in HoMin’s interviews. To me, they seem to be saying the same thing SME & their ‘family’ have been saying all along, in a bit more different way. ”face much temptations” instead of ”CreBeau” and ”needing the ability to discern right from wrong and to make good judgement” instead of ”betraying their family because they are greedy for money (and whatever sh*t other SME artists have been saying)”. So, to me they are saying the same thing as other artists, in a kinda ‘nicer’ way. So, nothing new there, I don’t see a different stance, just a different approach (can’t use CreBeau as an excuse anymore, haha).
What was more interesting to me was what CM said before he repeated YH’s ‘opinion’ about JYJ:
”I’ve stayed the same.” –> LOL, sure.
”I’ve lived well so far without any troubles.” –> Pfft, wow, I wonder why he wanted to sue/leave in the beginning if he had such a beautiful life under SME.
”Why has the team become like this?” –> yeah, the victim card
I see a good SME strategy here (which other artists from SM ‘family’ used too):
1) say nice things about yourself and the company (we are not slaves, we are big happy family, SME is great/nice/cool) + in HoMin’s case, play a victim too
2) make JYJ seem wrong (foolish/immature or greedy/traitors, whatever the individual member of SM ‘family’ chooses to use)
So, to me, this just makes me LOL, since I only see HoMin repeating like parrots what SME has been claiming. Since others from SM ‘family’ are being parrots, of course HoMin will be too (since they are the best card SME has against JYJ), so I see no surprises there. Nothing new there, as always, SME is doing all they can to make themselves seem right and JYJ wrong, using their ‘family’ and HoMin, so whatever. If HoMin are ok with being used in such a way, that’s pitiful. If they don’t realize it, they are stupid. If they really think like that, that was some awesome brainwashing (by SME or their parents). In either way, I feel sorry for them. Like others have said, it would be nice if they did their own stuff and stopped talking about JYJ nonstop, repeating the same things over and over again. But they obviously can’t do that, so… *sigh*
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”Sorry if I am not so quick to interpret everything the way you people do.”
Haha, same here. I LOL at people who think that every person who doesn’t see things the way they do is a troll or an anti… Oh no, someone has a different opinion, they must be: 1) a delusional OT5 who can’t use their brain, 2) a disguised HoMin fan or SME employee, 3) fan of a random K-pop group who is angry at JYJ’s abilities/success, so is a JYJ anti etc.
Some of us don’t feel the need to overreact to every little thing (like JJ being called leader by some staff or HoMin changing their way of playing victims a bit or SHINee singing Balloons etc.). The fact that I don’t see HoMin’s interviews in the same light as some others does not mean that I’m a HoMin stan, a JYJ anti or a delusional OT5 without a brain. And being and OT5 does not make me love JYJ less than a JYJ fan, does not make me agree with HoMin, does not make me support TVXQ Act 2, does not make me think I’m a ‘true’ fan, does not make me think JYJ (and their fans) are anti HoMin and anti TVXQ etc. It would be great if people stopped assuming stuff about OT5 and generalizing us. <_<
You’re contradicting yourself really….
@ Cris Owh dear that song! LOL im copying you too. HoMin I have a song to you too. This songs says all the feeling that I have towards you since you keep talking BS 0n national TV about JYJ.
There’s a fire starting in my heart,
Reaching a fever pitch and it’s bring me out the dark,
Finally, I can see you crystal clear,
Go ahead and sell me out and I’ll lay your sheet bare,
See how I’ll leave with every piece of you,
Don’t underestimate the things that I will do,
There’s a fire starting in my heart,
Reaching a fever pitch and it’s bring me out the dark,
The scars of your love remind me of us,
They keep me thinking that we almost had it all,
The scars of your love, they leave me breathless,
I can’t help feeling,
We could have had it all,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
Rolling in the deep,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
You had my heart inside of your hands,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
And you played it to the beat,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
Baby, I have no story to be told,
But I’ve heard one on you and I’m gonna make your head burn,
Think of me in the depths of your despair,
Make a home down there as mine sure won’t be shared,
The scars of your love remind me of us,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
They keep me thinking that we almost had it all,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
The scars of your love, they leave me breathless,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
I can’t help feeling,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
We could have had it all,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
Rolling in the deep,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
You had my heart inside of your hands,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
And you played it to the beat,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
Could have had it all,
Rolling in the deep,
You had my heart inside of your hands,
But you played it with a beating,
Throw your soul through every open door,
Count your blessings to find what you look for,
Turn my sorrow into treasured gold,
You’ll pay me back in kind and reap just what you’ve sown,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
We could have had it all,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
We could have had it all,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
It all, it all, it all,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
We could have had it all,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
Rolling in the deep,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
You had my heart inside of your hands,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
And you played it to the beat,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
Could have had it all,
(You’re gonna wish you never had met me),
Rolling in the deep,
(Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep),
You had my heart inside of your hands,
But you played it,
You played it,
You played it,
You played it to the beat.
OMG. Adele in JYJ3. haha. She’s flawless.
yes she is ❤
I adore her!! <33333333
if only dream like Junsu or Jaejoong or Yuuchun or at best JYJ meet Adele can ever happen in this world….OMGawd~~~
DEAD!!!
She’ll love junsu’s cuteness and awed by his voice
She’ll probably adores JJ like everyone else has
I just hope chunnie dont pull a greasy move on her.. I love u chunnie..but sometimes I go WAYLT LOL
Adele is my goddess^^
^_= I love her!!
Let’s keep it british^^ do as me sing this
everytime JYJ achieves something and you think about SM faces?=p
By the way anyone noticed that everytime they achieve something big HoMin strangely enough release an interview where they whine?
typo XD do you as me..?
Let us JYJ fans move on. There is no point to be bother what Homin say because it does not matters anymore.
Yes they might just repeating SM stand in this matter. It might not be their real feeling/thoughts, but it does not matters anymore.
No longer concern what are their real thoughts. Because their actions speak all.
Let us just focus on JYJ activities. I am excited abt upcoming albums, dramas and most importantly their concert!
It’s important to know what HoMin say *because* it is a reflection of SME’s stand. Many JYJ fans consider their support of JYJ’s struggle against SME to be a big part of their support for the boys. We need to know what’s going on.
If you don’t want to get involved in that aspect, that’s fine. Skip these posts. With everything that’s happening lately, there is plenty of squee to go around. ^^
I agree with you that it is important to know what is happening on other side so we get the facts right. That is why I choose read this article. I appreciate the effort use to translate this article so that i-fans like me know what is happening at korea. What I meant is no need to get too emotional about
Homin and their fans useless comments. All true JYJ
fans know Homin are telling lies. But
let us move on like JYJ does. JYJ is always looking positively and take up all the challenges in front of them. Although Homin say a lot of bad things about them, JYJ has never once fight back even they are hurt and bleeding in their heart. And I am
proud of them! Pardon on my bad English.
Now I understand.^^
Yes, if we were smart we would skip commenting on this issue here or make sure it is about SME’s tactics and leave HoMin out of if. I’m going to try and do that in the future.
for Homin, especially changmin since u are my 2nd bias in DBSK and i hope for you be better…
I am sorry for making this choice that i have to abandoned you.
I am sorry that i can’t support you.
I am sorry if my decision might hurt you.
You are in DBSK (5) always be my treasure forever.
I will always remember it with my heart. The funny scene, the sad scene, the gorgeous scene I will remember it.
I will always appreciate and thankful to both of you as the very important member of DBSK, acappella dance group.
We might be apart right now,
we might have different thinking right now.
I might be so foolish for not understand u two,
i might be a mean and cold bitch for abandoned you.
I might be mad at you, dissapointed at you, I am talk mean about you (which i am regret it later).
Because I love you, I am hurt right now.
Because of you make decision, I am too make it.
Because I have my own thinking, I make the decision.
But actualy from the bottom my heart,
I hope you always happy
I hope u are not regret your decision
I hope the best for you
I hope u always remember the “other” member also your “other” fans
I hope we can come to understanding in the future
Until that time comes please shine like the bright stars on sky above so I will found you.
Until that time comes I will begin my other journey to heal my wound.
Until that time come let’s live our life with no regret.
i second voice…..
to my TVXQ and my homin before… GOODBYE ….
… i love you..you will always be a precious part of my past….
an inspiration ….
BUT….you forced me to take a new path….a path where you homin are not there anymore…
i didn’t want this BUT after all you HM done and said….
i come to think to my self..” WE FANS WHO STAYED AT YOUR SIDE FOR YEARS ..WOULDN’T KNOW WHEN YOU ARE LYING..? WHAT DO YOU think OF US.. still the little fans ..ignorant about the world goes .?
we love you and hope for happiness…lets move on and hope to see you in the future.
….
JYJ boys have moved on and their fans have as well. I am glad to be a part of this fandom and I agree with most of the comments here. Sorry for the random comment, but I’m just happy that after reading that article I didn’t get angry, I just ~let it go~ SM, you’re going down.
JYJ fighting!
Why can’t you let it go
Let it go let it go let it go
…’Cause your heart is empty!
Are JYJ spoiled, selfish and greedy children …?
Let us assume that is true.
But if so after two years of suffering, efforts to emerge and to write, produce, sing their own songs, to plan their tour without the help of the media and of a big and powerful company they could gone back and hide under the skirts of their mother (SME).
Instead, they endeavoured tirelessly, they have put all their courage and they are survived with the constant help of loyal fans.
I think that what JYJ faced is not a thing for kids rather what comes to mature adults.
So … who are those too fearful to leave the comfortable and reassuring wing of the SME? Perhaps those 2 are the children who want things easy for them without a fight and without facing burden and troubles!
Oh sh*t! I wouldn’t blame Homin but if they don’t stop talking before they connect their brains I’m helpless!
Ellis, you are so right! That’s what I’d say too.
hmmm… this crap wont ruin my mood anymore. At first im hurt cuz im scared JYJ will get hurt as well. But the boys are very busy and dont think about the past anymore. So im at peace again.
Exactly.
*shrug*
The high IQ, if rumour is true, doesn’t indicate how wise ppl are.
They can choose to bitch about JYJ or focus on their activities, just as they can choose to sue or stay with SM. It’s their choices, and they have to live with it, come rain or come shine! In this case, I hope they realize it’s ‘come rain’, turning off fans or bystanders rather than ‘come shine’.
i totally agree with u, they can choose whether to stay or leave n if they love their friendship,they’ll leave but unfortunately they choose money than friendship..
“Live life fully while you’re here. Experience everything. Take care of yourself and your friends. Have fun, be crazy, be weird. Go out and screw up! You’re going to anyway, so you might as well enjoy the process. Take the opportunity to learn from your mistakes: find the cause of your problem and eliminate it. Don’t try to be perfect; just be an excellent example of being human.”
Anthony Robbins
live for yourself and not for others.
I can so relate. Thanks for offering that quote. 🙂
Do you have a twitter account? If so follow me @fontlei
@jyjtimeline
If that question is for me, sorry I don’t have a Twitter account. I’m on facebook, but don’t even really have the time to go there, that much. My email folder for it is crowded with requests to be added. 🙂
what ever they(homin) say about jyj,i will not change my heart to jyj,i love them coz jaejoong’s there n jyj never talk bad about homin but homin…..
i know that homin feel jealous to jyj coz jyj can success without them but they have to struggles a lot n even have to use lipsynch to make a complete song,so that’s why they always cause troubles to jyj..they might make people hate jyj when they changes the statement but at the same time they might cause people curious about the statement n think that they are lying..even if i dont know them both(jyj n homin) when i read the stat,i still thinks that homin are the liers coz if they are innocents,why do they keep change the stat,right??
before,i was a tvxq’s fan but today there’s no reason for me to stand behind tvxq,1st it is bcoz jaejoong’s not there anymore n 2nd, tvxq(homin) are not good persons,they were the actual persons who have bad characters,not our beloved jyj..
jyj,fighting..<3<3
what was Changmin’s recent answers on Chosun Ilbo? Where can I find the article? Thank you
For some reasons, I feel sorry for HOMIN. How I wish they would retract their words because it makes them look so silly. My support is only for JYJ and nothing they gonna say is going to change that. And I am so looking forward to JYJ’s World Tour and going to get my tickets to their show once it is open. I am also looking forward to everything they are going to appear in. I wish them great success.
wow… i can only… *sigh*
when… why did changmin say something like that again?
i wish they could just shut up and not talk about the three anymore. thay’re just making things worse…
Would ‘Weak Morals’ give JYJ this huge amount of success with limited help such as musicals, dramas, and albums. They achieve so much in the past couple of years. If they had weak morals, they would of quit and never achieved that success. Examine again on what morals JYJ have and maybe you can figure out why they left Homin.
A side of me dont want to believe this what they really think… but Homin havent done anything to make me hink otherwise.
Wow…these two are still at it, especially Changmin. You’d think they would focus more on their activities as TVXQ and less on JYJ. I didn’t even bother to get mad at this article…i just find it hilarious that i’ve had so many HoMin fans complain about how JYJ is always saying stuff to get sympathy while HoMin is “being mature and staying quiet”. THIS JUST PROVES THEM ALL WRONG ONCE AGAIN! If anything, JYJ are being mature and focusing on their careers and their fans. I really hope HoMin does the same…i’m tired of hearing their complaints about JYJ. Maybe i’d actually care about what they’d have to say if they weren’t so focused on ruining JYJ’s reputation all the time. But i guess i’ll end my rant here and just go on supporting my three boys, while those two deal with any consequences that may come from their actions. Maybe they’ll learn that while they try to put others down, they’re the only ones who will sink lower and lower…now let me go read the article about my Su posting on Twitter!!! I bet that’s more interesting!
You best watch out because the past always come back to bite you in the ass.
The truth will be revealed one day and people will realize what both of them where really doing.
They should sort out their priorities is loyalty more important to be kept to a company or to a friend.
“I cease to believe any news,media article and interview of TVXQ members saying against each other,as there may be people directing their every move.I cease to believe that 9 years of friendship cold end in just 2 years of separation.If the truth ever comes out, it will only be revealed once the 5 are on the same stage again,greeting everyone with, “1,2,3, we are TVXQ!”~
AKTF! even if people say its not being open minded,but for me,its “staying true to my principles and beliefs
even if the interviews are by the members themselves here, there may be people urging them to say these things against their brothers…
Even so, fact is that JYJ is not only in it for the money, why would they donate to so many charities if they are in it only for the money?
As their co-workers say, they are still humble and have strong work ethics, so you cannot judge them based on what other people are saying… You can only judge them if you meet them personally.
To have changed their stance and targeting JYJ’s MORALITY is like defying their own faith per se.
They like, lied in court a few times now (SME), and now defaming JYJ with their “new TVXQ fanclub”? that’s too LOW!
How the “BIG” Sm Entertainment is AFRAID of the JYJ trio, these actions on their side is certainly LOW CLASS. If they are the top Entertainment company, why stoop so LOW to defame other people? Why corrupt people’s beliefs by using broadcasts and Media to do this?
Why JYJ can’t defend themselves because of the lack of resources and support from the media?
EVIL.
SM is pure EVIL.
>=(
If HoMin truly don’t agree with SM then why stay there ? They didn’t want to leave with JYJ. Fine, it was their choice and I respect it. But if, as you wrote, they are being forced by SM to do and say things they don’t approve of, then why don’t they leave SM ? What’s the point in staying in such a company ? I’m sorry but it seems to me that this is what they truly feel and think, or else they would simply refuse to say such things. Nobody is putting a gun to their heads and everyone is free to make their own choices and decisions. As much as it hurts, HoMin chose to support the company their (ex)members are fighting against, and they also chose to write and say words which would only put them down. It’s sad but it’s the truth.
What do you expect from HoMin?
They are stupid idiots!
That’s why they stayed with SME in the first place.
They lost my respect as artists and now they are losing my respect as humanbeings.
I’m so glad they are not with JYJ anymore.
We don’t need to attack them. They are so good at making fools out of themselves.
LOL, like you know why they stayed in SME.
”They are stupid idiots!” =/= ”We don’t need to attack them.”
Let’s just skip the name-calling and move on okay?
“so fuck off …NO more talk….”: MISSION
move on HM and butthurt SM
Again and again, if i think of their argument “JYJ broke the friendship and TVXQ because of money” , it really gives me a big ?… Seriously, how can they get more money by suing and leaving SME??? Now lets not talk about TVXQ.. just take it as a group of friends… 3 guys chose to walk the thorny road while the 2 chose the smooth one… Who are the traitors??? But even so, I would not say Homin are traitors… But i jsut believe they choose the way they like and this is totally up to them… Then why Homin cant think that JYJ chose the way they like and its up to them???
Homin said “we were hurt cuz of the JYJ’s break up” “it was hard for us to stand on the stage again as 2 members” .. Why??? They were hurt cuz their album sales dropped as JYJ not around?? Or They were hurt cuz they couldnt get a chance to appear on TV/ radio again?? They were hurt cuz all the Ent agencies dare not/ are not allowed to sign contract with them??? I dont understand when Homin say they were hurt by JYJ… Why is it difficult to stand as 2 on the stage? If so why not they join them(JYJ) since the start?? They should know if they choose to stay , they have to stand as 2 on the stage.. Why are they crying over it/???? Just that i dont understand Homin at all…
Homin, Altho i am not ur fan, i want TVXQ5… I love u see u guys as usual.. Please stop doing this and u should realize this is not right .. I hope these pressure will turn to courage to leave SME..
i think the reason why i’m being extremely hurt by HoMin is because i loved them once.
they’ve changed, or maybe this is the true identity of HoMin. whatever. don’t care anymore.
as long as they don’t do the same thing like SM did *restrain JYJ activities* by any means, i’ll let them say whatever they want to say.
we can make this whole thing into a drama, seriously xD
I feel so hurt that why they talked on air about their brothers JYJ like that comments , original there are no right or wrong , they just chose their own roads and walked on different paths ! We really don’t want to see this kind of comments …… my heart is broken and JYJ’s heart also broken !!!!!!!!!!
I’m reuniting the pieces of your heart…Dont be sad at HM’s words and laugh instead coz the words show how stupid HM are…LoL…
Ho Min, these guys have some mental problems…I’ll help them to call an ambulance. Ghosts already ate their brain!!! >.< …
Playing "brainless" (composed by me)
It’s already March 22, 2011 and these kids are still whining . They have the priviledge of having access to the media and using that priviledge for doing something good but instead they take this opportunity to continuosly paint themselves as victims to the break-up and attack the morals of JYJ. Even let’s say they are being forced to do this …then all i can say is they don’t have any backbone.
Whatever HoMin you guys are like a broken record on repeat. I honestly tried, REALLY TRIED to believe that you guys were still the same guys I liked once upon a time but boy was I wrong. Changmin you are becoming so cold and heartless while Yunho is just trying to put the blame on JYJ, how sad. Both of you are just living off of SME right now, using TVXQ’s past successes but unless you guys man up and learn how to be independent you will never last long as idols or singers. JYJ on the other hand probably will because they are improving by themselves each and every day, always striving to be better and challenging themselves. After 5 years we will see who’s name is still known. I hope that you guys will stop blaming JYJ and just realize it was all your faults and move on.
yes. u spoke my mind. ^^
let me cheer you up 😛
this is jae.. and …. in thailand 😛
http://twitpic.com/4c6qyo
😛
Bro, why are you so pervert? T__T But it’s nice to see your drawings anyway ‘cuz it makes me laugh (even though I’m a lil’ bit jealous) ^^
lol this is funny ^^
i love the drawings darling! ^^
Yunho said something in early 2010 in an interview that being in the entertainment business means not saying everything you think, like making a good impression no matter what, something like that. I understood that he doesn’t think that it means being honest. That is who he is. He acts like he is Mr. Righteous Guy, but in the end, this is how he really is in public. The righteous guy is just an act. In the end it is just about his career. Changmin grew up following Yunho’s lead, what do you expect from him?
SME is a business that uses music and the appearance of love to make money. These 2 made their choice that their careers were important to them, and SM was the way to go no matter what. The appearance of the truth, the appearance of love, but not the real thing — that is what they chose to be.
I just hope that with success JYJ will remember these days and continue to live with the truth and love, not compromising themselves and their real hearts. It is hard in real life to live like that when not facing hardships. Pray for JYJ to overcome all these lies and to maintain themselves when they do.
JYJ love forever. Yeah.
“The righteous guy is just an act. In the end it is just about his career”.
I agree.
But don’t you believe that they’re walking on a fine line?
They’re carrying things too far and sooner or later all these lies and innuendo will turn against them and the career will come to an end. Once people will realize the lies won’t forgive them easily.
HoMin are now “Cold as a razor blade, Tight as a tourniquet, Dry as a funeral drum” (Pink Floyd)
I’m a new JYJ fan, didn’t know them in their DBSK days, but when I looked at old footage of them as 5 I could never shake my dislike & distrust of Yunho. He always seemed shallow, two-faced & calculating to me, no matter how I tried not to judge him. IMO he doesn’t care for anything or anyone but himself & his career, & if that means kissing your ass, then he’s happy to do it, & if it means stabbing you in the back, he’s equally happy to do that too. As for Changmin, he seem’s so embroiled in his own rage & feelings of betrayal, (whether those feelings are justified or not), that he has lost all sense & reason. Either way, both of them are feeding on their own hate, bitterness & jealousy, (which is probably why their fans are so rabid – like attracts like), & undoubtedly it will come back to bite them on the bum one day soon.
Sometimes I check out SYC site, but the way Homin are treating their “brothers”, makes me feel like vomiting whenever I see their faces, so usually I ignore them. I’m sorry if this is upsetting ot5r’s or Homin fans, but please remember that this is a JYJ fan site, & not all of us are or were fans of the original five. People change, friendships end, love dies, especially when someone is deliberately stomping all over your heart in order to justify & validate their own selfish behaviour. I really hope JYJ & Homin don’t “kiss & make-up”, simply because I believe that Jae, Junsu & Yoochun deserve better than the false “friendship” of user’s, abuser’s & poor looser’s.
Sorry Jaejoongie, I know that unconditional love always tries to understand & forgive, but I’m not a saint, I never loved Homin, & I am VERY protective of the people that I do love.
Sorry for the rant JYJ3 family. I’ve been so angry at Homin for so long & I just couldn’t hold it any longer. Very sorry.
@sapphire
“Sorry Jaejoongie, I know that unconditional love always tries to understand & forgive, but I’m not a saint, I never loved Homin, & I am VERY protective of the people that I do love.”
this is what i feel too.. many OT5 Jae’s biased who always say, “JJ love his brother, ur action make Jae sad.” LOL and many fake Jae’s biased fan, make me want to puke.
whatever.. homin choose their way JYJ also make their way, I also can choose for myself.. no need other people dictate my choice, I am free person, not bind to cassiopeia, TVXQ5 or even status as Jae biased fan.
i love you ^^
*nods* on every line you wrote there.
I felt the same way. For some reason Yunho rubbed me the wrong way but I actually liked Changmin. It seemed like he really did love Jae, Chun, and SuSu. But it’s a shame what is going on now. Just makes me love JYJ more ’cause they could have gone on twitter and said some crap about them. But they don’t instead they post pics and come to just say hey. Sometimes I think that they know what is about to come out in the news so they get on twitter as a way to distract us. Or as a way to kinda cheer us up. I like to imagine that. But love the guys. They truly are fantastic, sexy, gorgeous, handsome, cute, caring, kind men. I love JYJ and everyone in this wonderful JYJ Family.
@Sapphire
From someone who is basically a third party onlooker when it came to OT5, you have assessed their characters pretty good. Yeah. I’ll just say I’m nodding what you’ve said and I do feel your anger too…
Imma end that there and I now offer you a JYJ Family hug.
Yunho seemed out of the group to me. Let me explain….two things I noticed about Yunho and Changmin, they both loved and adored their fathers….and they both were comfortable and hung out with their old friends more than making new ones and hanging out with them.
During AADBSK3 I felt really sorry for them at the part where the members had to praise each other…..Yunho and Changmin received very little praise from the members….I felt that the three really struggled with praising them maybe..? On JJ and Changmin, JJ says to Changmin: “I really like the fact that you listen to music a lot….this is really important and something I should learn from you.” (ok? coughcough JJ but what kind of praise is that X___X lol) And for Yunho it was always “You are an awesome leader and I don’t know how you do it”
Honestly, I felt Yunho was comfortable out of the group setting to. I think he felt too that he could go on without the group. Changmin on the other hand seemed to ADORE JJ to bits in 2008. *coughcough* In a Japanese interview JJ talked about how he was really depressed and wanted alone time in his room but Changmin would always stalk him to his room and then just watch him. And how Changmin sometimes looked over JJ’s shoulder to watch him text. (I somehow find it a bit creepy….but then I thought maybe he just wanted to hang out with JJ more but was to embarrased to ask?) Anyways it eventually lead to JJ and Changmin going out for late night drives to have a heart-to-heart conversations. I think therefore that Changmin is really angry because he really really liked JJ as a friend but now JJ chose the other side.
The only thing that I think about is “what if…..the reason they stayed was because their fathers were against it and wouldn’t let their sons say no to the ‘benefits’ that SME was passing to them.” If it is a situation like this then it is pretty sad. But, their is no excuse for their lying now. This lying cannot be blamed on their fathers decision but words they themselves are saying.
/End of rant
@yuu_kyuuin
“this is what i feel too.. many OT5 Jae’s biased who always say, “JJ love his brother, ur action make Jae sad.” LOL and many fake Jae’s biased fan, make me want to puke.”
I was one of the fans who promoted ‘don’t do something that if JJ knew about he would be sad’ therefore I am a bit offended. I used to be a SYC stalker, but I have never been an OT5 fan nor a fake JJ fan. I am purely JJ-biased, but I understand that their are some lines that should not be crossed. ‘Two wrongs don’t make a right’
I love that the JYJ fandom members rarely bash now though 😀 compared to how the JYJ fans became back then in SYC…..which just made me sad. Because I love Jaejoong so much……it honestly is not about being nice to Homin……..but more about being a good fan so that other fans can say “Hey look JJ fans are awesome and don’t bash!” (And yes I am only saying JJ. Because honestly if JJ decided to go solo for whatever reason in the future….I would follow him then too and not care about anyone else. That does not mean I don’t respect and admire Junsu and Yoochun though!)
I’m sorry but I have to LOL at Changmin spoke like he was older than JJ/YC/JS… I think that someone who is older in age as well as having been through many hardship like JJ, will be much more mature and better at judgment 🙂
I’m sorry but day by day, I feel like I can’t stand that duo anymore. They’re not cute at all, they seems to like defaming JYJ, accusing them publicly while JYJ never talk anything bad about them.
I think what changmin said was right though.
but among them I think he’s the worst, not only he didn’t have an ability to discern right from wrong and an ability to make a good judgment, he did’t even know what he’s talking about.
well, what more I can say, he’s young and stupid, not clever enough to learn from the past also not strong enough to handle the bitter truth.
he lived well without troubles until the 3 went out from sme, kekeke…why? I think his (their) pocket money lessen, he thought that the money will split into 2 (not 5, yeay!), but he forgot so with the expenses they have to split it into 2, when actually (according what yoochun said) the expenses are a lot higher than the money they earned. *sigh* I think he’s not happy at all right now. *pity*
Enlightened me, which part is he right?
When people hate on others, what they’re really saying is that they’re jealous of them! It’s understandable though, if I was HoMin I’d be jealous of JYJ too!
I was thinking that too. I was imagining a scenario in which I lived with people who were good at everything and overachievers. I generally don’t like overachievers just because sometimes it makes me feel worse about myself….but if I think that person is honestly a friend I am so proud of their achievements. Still if I was in that situation every time my friend was loved or praised more I would feel worse about myself.
This situation is just a bit different….in this situation the five did not choose to work/live together….they were put together. Some were better in some areas and some were weak in other areas. I always found it kind of amusing when Yunho had solo dance parts in their MV’s……I was like OK………….
But that basically sums it up. Especially when you know overachievers you never want to tell them your weaknesses or that you are envious of them….etc.
after reading this, I shook my head, give a “sigh” and don’t bother to even remember it. Homin is gone in my heart, i don’t care about them anymore. JYJ fighting
First it was Moses who parted the Red Sea, and now it’s SME. History DOES repeat itself in the most peculiar ways.
HM needs to crawl out from underneath the rock they’ve been living under and realize that they are not victims. You know, I used to really respect those two. I was even a Changmin bias. But after watching these events one after the other, I have seen HM’s true faces, and I am utterly disappointed in them. I can’t even explain how pissed off I am at them. If I had three friends as wonderful and sweet as JYJ, I would cherish it forever no matter what happened. Friends like that are hard to find. I don’t understand why they are doing this, but it’s gonna bite them in the ass sooner or later.
This just makes me really sad and that is all I have to say about it.
I think like some other people, I misread the title and came in with a certain expectation, but after reading it I am not mad or upset by the words, but for getting my hopes up that something positive had happened amongst all of this.
The new statement takes a deeper, more direct dig, which I think is really low, but I am not surprised given the first statement. My sadness comes from the situation as a whole. I think that in any situation, degrading others and their character never works in your favor, it only puts your own character into question.
This is tiring; I am just going to focus all my energy in believing, hoping, and supporting JYJ and all of their current/future projects. Now I need to do something to cheer myself up: I know, I’ll go watch Jae doing something cute! *giggle*. JYJ Fighting!
I used to think why can’t Homin go on their own way and without bringing JYJ into it. But I realized they can’t. It seems like neither of them have the ability to succeed in solo activities like JYJ do. Which is why Changmin sounds so bitter IMO.
exactly!
i dont think dbsk would ever be successful without jyj i mean if those 2 are alone i dont think they will ever be successful.they are known now because they have been part of dbsk but if they were on their own..goodluck on having a name for themselves..
I think you should all thanks HM for saying so, because that reassure you right choice of supporting JYJ. Just assume that they are supporting by bashing them so that all the tvxq fans turn to support JYJ instead of HM 🙂
Since the comments said on Knee Drop Guru, I gave up…I am so disappointed…
When I first read the article, it broke my heart. Why are both parties (JYJ and Homin) act like they’re the victims?! why did they do it by asking sympathy while the other party used criticism to defend themselves? Well, I know none of them want to be called a traitor but this is not the way to do it! Get the lawsuit done and don’t confuse us fans anymore! I won’t concern myself anymore about who’s right or wrong, seriously. Supporting the 5 of them as TVXQ is a history. I’ve enough of all these bullshit and what I can do is just to appreciate their musics! That’s it!
Errr…. When did JYJ act like they are the victims??
exactly…i didn’t understand that either. i’ve never heard JYJ try to publicly damage HoMin’s reputation by portraying them negatively. it doesn’t make sense to me.
This lawsuit is tiring but it’s not JYJs fault. SM keeps dragging it out in hopes JYJ will lose not only the case, but fans and support as well. What SM has failed to realize time and time again is that we’re not going no where 🙂
I joined the JYJ fandom at the end of last year. At the time, I really didn’t care about the reasons why JYJ left because I was more focused on how they were treated after. My days of being a JTL fan came flooding back and it wasn’t pretty!
The lawsuit says JYJ vs SM. No where does it say JYJ vs HoMin but HoMin keeps throwing themselves in the mix. Ask yourself why! How come now, all of a sudden, they’re suddenly speaking up so much? Why didn’t they do it before the courts founded in favor of
JYJ regarding the Crebeau business?
JYJ has moved on and HoMin should really do the same. Blaming their lack of great success on JYJ makes them look utterly pathetic! They should be men, grow some balls and concentrate on themselves. They should try gaining new fans instead of driving the old ones away. Loyalty is hard to find so once you lose a fans trust, you’ve got no where else to go but down. Hating on your ex-members will do that!
I do hope Yunho & Changmin will stop with all these low blows because it makes them look bitter, jealous and extremely insecure. HoMin needs an attitude adjustment as well as new personalities. The ones they’ve got now just ain’t cutting it. They’ve lost too many loyal fans only to get replaced by young immature teen girls who can’t do much for them besides start and spread rumors. I really do pity them! Cassiopeia WAS 800,000 strong. I doubt the real numbers now are even half of that now!
LOL……….When did JYJ act like the victims??
Could you please tell me how JYJ are acting like victims?
Theyre busy posting cute selcas and kitties and making good music, making fans happy and doing constructive stuff
they really dont have time to make themselves look like victims, nor would their hearts allow them to hurt fans either.
Unfortunately, “some” HM/ot5/pro-sme (yes, there are these people… check the precious blog…) stans are claiming that jyj are acting like victims because of their tweets; because of their self-composed songs-especially Yoochun’s Nameless Song; how they keep on “whining” how they can’t appear on TV…
i know, it’s dumb because they only see what they want to see since they are biased… but yeah… that’s what they’re saying…
the title was misleading
T_____T
*sigh*
really homin gawd i seriously thought you guys were over the whole blame JYJ thing, you guys wont change will you, well whatever then do what you gotta do and i’ll stick with my boys they need my love and support either way
peace!
Personally, I think that HoMin are still trying to live out the TVXQ1 dream through their attacks against JYJ. As crazy as it might seem, I think SM knows that TVXQ2 won’t last very long without the other three. Which is why HoMin are using past awards and achievements to keep themselves afloat rather than doing something new and fresh. Yunho even admitted in an interview that they wanted to keep that TVXQ feel and if you listen to some of their songs, it sounds like they’re trying to make two people sound like five. Why can’t they just take TVXQ2 into another direction just like how JYJ adapted to only having three voices and produce music complementing each other?
I also think that HoMin is falling back on the TVXQ name because they aren’t as successful with solo activities as the other three are. Now JYJ also have their own faults, but you have to admit that JJ, Chun, and Su are amazing composers, Chun was born to act, JJ excels in everything dealing with modeling, and Junsu probably came out singing like an angel on his birth day. One thing that all three of these guys have done that is so different from HoMin is that they worked in the fields that they are actually good in. This is really how they succeeded.
Yoochun is an amazing actor, but I don’t think he’d do well in a musical. JJ is great in front and behind the camera so he’s accepting offers like that, and Junsu doesn’t go anywhere near a drama or movie set but you probably couldn’t pay the boy enough to get him off of the stage. Unfortunately, HoMin aren’t the best actors around and stepping into that field when there’s aready so much doubt surrounding an idol’s acting ability was a stupid move. Changmin should have done a Junsu stunt and released a solo album while also promoting his modeling. Yunho should have done something involving dancing, like dance competitions or even his own tour with backup dancers to show off his talent. Even though I think Junsu is a more versatile dancer, I still think that Yunho dances well enough to be appreciated for it. Maybe if they had done this, then they would’ve been as successful as JYJ(because at that time, they weren’t saying anything and most fans were still supporting them too).
The thing is JYJ were the main vocals in TVXQ so it was easier for them to adapt without the other two. It’s more difficult for Homin because they were more like the high part and low part and now they are missing the stuff in between. I only follow JYJ among Kpop stars so I don’t have a point of reference but I get the feeling that all three of the JYJ members are really really exceptionally talented. Look at what they have accomplished after the split even with all the controversy. I almost feel sorry for Homin in a way.
I totally agree with you. I do kind of feel sorry for them just because they’ll never really experience that growth as an artist under SM, if fact it seems like SM is actually slightly losing interest in them. They’ve made their decision to stay so hopefully they’ll come back and be a success again without having to use TVXQ1’s name or bad-mouthing JYJ to gain attention.
That’s exactly what it is! Together HoMin is riding the TVXQ5 act 1 wave, but on their own they’re not much. I’m not mad at them, I pity them. JYJ has major hidden talents and HoMin does too but if they’re not allowed to expand, they’ll never get better.
You know I really do love homin but im going insane.
When are they going to finally think straight?
SME is releasing a new boyband soon M1 as I recall and if they do well tvxq2 may never release anything again, knowing SME homin will probably be gone.
This saddens me because this all might happen to them and if they know this why are they still talking about JYJ? Why are they still with SME?
Well, there’s nothing we can do about that. It’s also not going to be surprising either when SM replaces TVXQ with M1. I do care about HoMin, but not enough to help them!
Changmin, I think JYJ have diffidently found the ability to Discern themselves with what is right, and that was leaving SME. I would have been fine if you said.”We were Young blah blah and even if you quoted Yunho again.” But to say that JYJ: people that You know would never put your choice down in anyway even if they felt you were not right in choosing so; but to go and say they lack ability in having good judgment and ability to discern right from wrong. Has made me loose a lot of respect for you.
Well Changmin there lack of good judgement has brought them to a new Height. They are authors, Composers, Songwriters, Actors, Musicological sensations. Who when you watch them perform you see the smiles on there face and you can’t help but feel the passion they have in your soul. They make you cry with them they make you happy with them. They make you feel there love and passion when they sing…. I believe those are the things that have now given them the Titles of Artist, They are the true Gods they have Ascended to New Heights.
Then there is You and your follower. while you have to now sing always looking angry. You don’t convey any passion and soul for the songs you sing. Just to scream a note but there is no life in that note. No growth instead your in the same category as all the other new groups are now. Just another idol. Were is the next step, the next challenge in your career. Most of all where is the damn passion when you sing these songs. O>O wait I forget you really don’t want to be doing this anyway.
I don’t want to sound like I’m defending HoMin but people need to stop talking badly about them. JYJ isn’t suing HoMin, they’re sewing SME. HoMin are SME employees, they’re just doing their job. SME is the enemy not HoMin, regardless of what they said. This is obviously another trick SME is trying to pull to manipulate the situation. Also all these people saying that HoMin are grown men and can make their own decisions, need to understand that they started in the business pretty young and even younger as trainees it’s easy to have your priorities set on something that’s familiar. I’m not trying to put the blame all on SME but it just sucks that people are so quick to judge facts when they don’t know the whole story.
I think fans need to stay out of the lawsuit (SME needs to keep them out of it too) and let things take their own turn.
HWAITING JYJ…………….you go to homin fansite and no need to tell us JYJ fan what to do!!!!!
Quit all the HM are being babies and unable to make any choices bs again… They chose:
To stand by SM
To accuse JYJ of whatever they may justified it.
To throw away all 8 years of brotherhood.
To openly throw stones at JYJ knowing fully well they cannot say anything back coz, guess what, they are being banned from tv!
To interfer in the lawsuit between SM and JYJ.
Some HM fans should stop being delusional and end up visiting JYJ fansite when the door is there pointing “OUT”!
Hear hear!
Wasnt posting that really long comment on thejyjfiles enough?
didnt you get enough responses there.
What is your purpose
yikes she posted the same thing
Babe, some people are just ASs = Attention SeekerS!!!
as much as some fans would love to stay away from the lawsuit they cant, it has started to get hard. when this lawsuit came out i really didnt give a hoot about it and i just kept listeming to their music the thing that got me more invloved is when changmin and yunho started to say all of this BS.i know there are some people in that company that have guts and actually say what they feel, Homin should do the same instead of letting the friends they have spent 8+more years with be blamed and ridiculed. i loved homin i really did but with all the stuff they started to say i was just like no more if they want more people to go against them then whatever and im done with them. i dont look their music i avoid ot5 fansites, like sharing yoochun i dont look at that anymore. these guys are grown men they are getting closer to 30 they can speak their minds, if they are truely passionate in what they do then they should prove it by actually focusing on their work cuz they arent doing so good instead of saying all this s*** about JYJ, those guys are making themselves look bad
Yes I understand how you feel in this regard,I love them too but the thing is,if they don’t anything better to say, they shouldn’t say anything @ all. Why not focused in other activities like helping Japan as JYJ has. Promote themselves in a more appropiate way. I agree with one of the comments when it says they now look sad and angry and their songs are unfeeling. they have no soul behind them.Something very shady is going on with them, all they do everytime they have the opportunity is slunder the name of JYJ.
The only thing I agree with is this:
“This is obviously another trick SME is trying to pull to manipulate the situation.”
Since I’ve been a JYJ fan, I’ve never once bashed HoMin for anything. Yesterday was the first time ever that I allowed my anger to get the best of me. I can ignore the “hidden” messages, or even HoMin fan’s starting and spreading rumors but I can’t ignore statements like these from their very own mouths. We don’t need to know the whole story, we just know what they said and it’s more than enough. Fans aren’t the ones involving HoMin, they’re doing that on their own.
Came over here did you? Well guess what, this is another JYJ house, and you don’t get to come here either, and disrespect the house rules:
* You don’t put your feet on the furniture.
* You don’t open the refrigerator without asking permission.
* You ask if you can use the ‘facilities’.
Now, since you are confused as to where you are, and where you really should be…The door is over to the left, you don’t need our permission to open it and go throught it.
Take care and have a nice day.
LOL
Listen HoMin! I’m usually very cold headed,before I make staments I revise the facts!And if in fact you have been making these kind of accusations to the JYJ members then the ones lacking moral character are you two!I wish that in some way this could get to them. you don’t go switching staments because the first one didn’t work, the moral code tells you stck by it till the end even when you are wrong,otherwise you loose credibility. How could you turn on your brothers like that,until now they have not spoken ill of you and focused and more important thing:like helping the people of Japan,and their various activities;or is it that two TVXQ’s have not the same impact as 5 and tou need the publicity!In that case for your own sake I advise to use another strategy cause this one is going to end up hurting you more than JYJ no one likes the kind of shady behavior you are displaying.you gonna loose fans more than gaining, and Yunho, Chamming: With all do respect, I think is think is time for you to step out as MEN and stop this game of your parents deciding for you, you are no longer babies so step out the plate and grow up!
Alas, no matter how i see it, JYJ never fail to make news.
i) Look at JJ: his elle debut broadcast of Jaejoong’s ‘Killer J’ movie still, ELLEatTV’s number of viewers increased by seven times, with the total number of website hits totaling to five times the normal average
ii) JJ in Thailand: where ever he goes, theres flock of people gathering around him
iii) Junsu TOH musical soared not only in performance but set new record of tickets sold
iv)Yoochun’s in SKKS. Not only he won 3 awards, he also won the ahjuhmas love and become his fans
So, the mere mentioned of JYJ by homin caused 434 comments and still counting at JYJFiles and 353 in here and i am sure still counting.
So i guess the only way they can get our attention is by talking about JYJ albeit in a negative ways. “Sigh”
As much as I want to stay angry at HoMin, I really can’t. My heart breaks knowing they’ve become so bitter and cold. I remember back when they had their comeback, in the interviews, Yunho would have a blank lost expression on his face while Changmin smirked angrily. How can I be angry with them when they’re giving us signs that they need help? Actions speak louder than words, and even though their words have hurt us & JYJ tremendously, their actions are telling me otherwise.
For the longest time, I feared that JYJ was headed straight for a depression. (All the signs were there.) All three hold a special place in my heart and I didn’t want anyone of them to be hurt anymore. Until recently, things finally started to look up for them. Now that I see them in a better place, I don’t want them to ever go back to what they were months ago. I will do everything I can to not let that happen!
I’m not a Cassie, I only support JYJ. But that doesn’t mean I wish bad things upon them. HoMin fans (I know you’re lurking here :D) please watch out for these two. Help them overcome this so that they may move on to bigger and better things as well. JYJ has us and many influential people but who does HoMin have? SM is only using them and once they’re done, SM is going to toss them out like trash. Please help them!
Even though this lawsuit isn’t over and we’ve still got many obstacles in front of us, I have to say THANK YOU to my JYJ family! Especially Jimmie & TheJYJfiles! You all are truly the best!!! ^___^
“I’ve never once bashed HoMin for anything. Yesterday was the first time ever that I allowed my anger to get the best of me.”
I feel exactly the same way & 100% agree with EVERYTHING you’ve written.
That was my response to your last post, & then I saw this one & I have to say Wow! Major respect! I’m mad as hell at HoMin, but I don’t hate them & I don’t wish them ill, but when I’m emotional, the fact that they are obviously unhappy human beings who deserve sympathy & compassion simply because they are human beings, is almost impossible for me to remember. Again – major respect.
I love this comment and I also hope that the Homin lurkers read this. Please help Homin! SME is not the answer….
I will admit that after the first couple of months after the split, I had accepted that they were going to continue on their own paths. I had decided to just support all of them individually and when they finally felt like they could stand on the stage together again (whether it was 1 yr or 15yrs later) I would be there to support all of them as TVXQ. The only reason I thought like that was because I assumed that this lawsuite wouldn’t get messy and cause a rift in the bonds that all five of them shared. I had assumed that all of them had approached this situation like responsible adults and had agreed to calmly split and just continue to support each other.
Unfortunately, this didn’t happen and I don’t see them coming back together any time soon(maybe in 10+yrs). There’s just too much confusion and hurt feelings for these guys to quickly solve their problems between themselves and at the rate it’s going, HoMin are going to end up saying something that’s going to permanently push JYJ away from them. I don’t want to see that happen, but it’s not like I can control their actions.
Unfortunately I think HoMin and JYJ’s relationship is like that of a strained family’s. You still love them because they’re your family, but you won’t be able to accept them back into your life until all of your wounds have healed. Any time before that will be too painful for everybody. 😦
At this point I wonder if all these years we have been so blind not to realize that the friendship between the five boys was just a play .. I don’t want and I can’t think that it was all false.
I can only believe that Changmin is venting anger and frustration in an immature way, blaming others because he doesn’t know how to react to the situation and because he can’t communicate with JYJ otherwise.
It’s sad and I’m disappointed.
Hi everyone, i have come across the article and it was written nearly 3 years ago which means way before JYJ’s lawsuit.. I ve sent this link to JYJ3 admin, hopw they will post somewhere to let everyone see.. But be careful, dont make it as urs… U might get into trouble..
My intention is just to let those, who accuse JYJ traitors, read this article.. And those who are supporting Homin to be with SME, I wish u could make the right decision…
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-250398/sm-entertainment-is-a-vicious-entertainment
the article been circulating since 2006, written by a HOT fan.
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/298666-are-the-sm-entertainment-rumours-true/
I couldn’t find the actual source. but it is the same article posted in crunchyroll in 2008.
and yes it seems that a cycle is repeating itself. but we can’t let that happen to JYJ, we’re here to support them in all their endeavors.
OMG, again… This makes me cry… There was a family called TVXQ, including Daddy yunho, mummy Jae, Son Su and his wife chun and the youngest son ming… Now papa and mama got divorced and the family is broken… (T_T)
http://suju-korea.lefora.com/2008/11/22/more-dbsk-facts/
Read only if u dont mind crying.. (T_T)
let’s just leave them behind..so many misunderstandings have been arouse between these 5 men..actually people’s arguments and opinions make their feelings more severe..these things can be settled by them ONLY..let the fate meet them again and make up..if u believe and have faith that they’ll be reunited (like d other groups), then let’s leave them..don’t bash each other’s group..too much pain has been made..
ha ha ha i also just read yesterday in yunjae facts:
that Jaejoong have 7 sister and this is very very need clarification they said Junsu father already dead.
im LoLing and send video of junsu parents when they are in thailand. my suggestion read that as a fiction if that hilarious but if that something need to be confirm give them the proves XDD
They are all males
males cannot give birth
i’m 99.9999999999% sure Jae did not give birth to changmin
and it is incredibly disrespectful to characterize them in such a way based on fanfics
-____-
*shudder*
i cant even……
ha ha ha i am a yunjae shippers (oh wait im already change that to become yunjae admirer) Trust me talking to fanatics fans its like talking to a walls, and that its steel walls with Bulletproof and so on. i try mention them in tweet they give me 1001 facts LoL
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