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Hello! This is my first time actually starting a topic, so I’m a little nervous…..
Anyway, I’ve always been curious to know how people, other than myself, have discovered JYJ. I became a fan of DB5K back at beginning of 2009 (before the lawsuit). When JYJ left, I followed them because 1. I truly believe in what they are doing and wish to support them and 2. I love and adore Junsu! ❤
What about all of you? I look forward to reading your answers and gettin to know you! 🙂
I was a K-Drama fan first and to me was like this… –> sungkyunkwan scandal –>Yoochun–>JYJ…..but I knew about TVXQ before BC of millionaire first love OST…
I feel like Sungkyunkwan Scandal brought in a lot of new fans for JYJ! Thanks for sharing your story. 🙂
@Yukkiluv
Hi there! I discovered JYJ through Jaejoong from Protect The Best. My daughter forced me to watch that drama and finally I gave in. That was in October 2011. I told my daughter I’m gonna follow him and JYJ for three months only but as you can see until now I’m still with them and maybe will be by their side a lot longer.
I think once you know them, the hardship that they went through, the talent that they have and their personality will make you love them more. And out of three, of course I’m Jaejoong bias but I still support the three of them. Well that my story. I think other sisters have much more interesting stories to tell. BTW, would like to invite you to visit my blog at http://www.mamajyj.blogspot.com.
Have a nice day!
Hi! I’m glad you’re still following them. They are amazing men for sure. I’ll be sure to check out your blog! 🙂
@mamajyj *mama* it’s *PROTECT THE BOSS*…
😀
@MINMIN
kekeke …I didn’t notice that I wrote ‘Protect The Best’ ….maybe THE BEST always in my mind when it comes to Jaejoong. So shy ‘cover my face*
My daughter played their music for me and showed me a number of pictures of them in 2007; so the split came as quite a shock! I also followed JYJ because of Junsu! 😀
The split was shocking for me too! But I completely understand and agree with their decision, and I love them all the more for it. Yeah Junsu!
My sister introduced me to TVXQ and I would play their music while driving. I didn’t really know how they look like but fell in love with their voices first. It was also my sister who told me about the split up when I asked for more songs. Personally, I would stand up and protect my love ones if someone tries to harm or abuse them; and knowing about their dilema makes me want to tell JYJ ‘I’m there to support you.’ It is because of them I’ve become interested in Korean drama, culture, language, and the country itself; oh, and not to forget the skin care products. Also, since they have songs in Japanese I’m brushing up on my Nihonggo. Prince Jae is my favorite among the three but I love and support all of them. Living in Virginia, I’ve missed opportunities to watch their concerts in New York and New Jersey so I’m going to relocate to New Jersey before the next event happens. Working 16 hours a day does stress me out and listening to their music and reading updates from twitter and facebook during my break is my energy capsule. Thank you JYJ for everything you have done for me.
ME TOOO they are my daily energy capsule
That’s awesome. I really hope you get the chance to see them live! Thanks for sharing 🙂
I’ve known them since DB5K debuted. One of my friends bombarded me with their songs and MVs. I thought they were good, but didn’t impress me that much. I preferred only listening to music which I could understand lyrics (young, naive me, lol). Years passed, heard about them from time to time, but still didn’t pay much attention. Around 2009 or 2010, one day I was bored, so I searched Youtube for some variety shows to watch and came across a THSK’s show from Channel A. I was like “wow, they spoke Japanese now? The feminine boy in the middle has grown up handsomely and he’s funny too!” Then I tried listening to some THSK’s songs and fell in love. I love Jaejoong’s voice the most, so he instantly became my bias. When I dug more information about them, I found out about the lawsuit and the split. I believed JYJ were right for standing up for their rights and fairness. I was okay with both sides though I liked JYJ a bit more because Jaejoong is in it. Then the ruckus during TV2XQ’s comeback in 2011 happened, so I’ve moved on with JYJ only (besides I don’t really like Homin’s music and their group’s dynamic isn’t like JYJ’s which reminds me more of the old DB5K). I love and support JYJ, but Jae has always been my priority. At this point, I’m following whichever path he takes.
I love the dynamic between the 3. Their friendship is strong and deep, and they are so adorkable. Thanks for sharing!
Hi! Another Junsu fan here 🙂 I knew DBSK through Super Junior; like a lot of people i was caught up in the Sorry Sorry craze. One day i accidentally clicked on the Mirotic vid in YT, liked what i saw but not totally sold yet. But still i was curious enough to want to know more about them, so one video led to another until i found this live performance of Don’t Say Goodbye, and i was most drawn to Junsu and his beautiful voice. I remember having goosebumps listening to him. All these happened in 2010, and i still didn’t know about the lawsuit and that the group had split. Because of Junsu, i naturally gravitated to JYJ, but the more i learned about the lawsuit and the ugly truth behind the glitz and glamour of Kpop, the more respect i had for the guys. And so 2 years later i’m here supporting them in the ways i can.
Yeah Junsu! He was the one that kept me interested in DB5K. I watched him perform Beautiful Thing, and I fell in love with his voice. Then I fell in love with the other members as well. Thanks for sharing!
I actually came to know TVXQ from JYJ. Ok here’s the story: I ran across a photo of the three back in 2010 I think, and my first impression was: omg how can three perfect people exist, for me they were like manga characters coming to live and then I became interested in their music and off course I knew that they were prev. in TVXQ and my thought about the whole thing was: (and off course some people disagree) JYJ as 3 is better than TVQX as 5 .. anyways not to start some fan war I followed their debut to the release of their song ayy girl .. loved the song .. hated the MV .. then because the mv was so traumatic I actually stop following their news and stuff .. THEN CAME ROOFTOP PRINCE and I fell in love with yoochun and then fell in love with Junsu and then fell in love with Jaejoong and so my obsession with JYJ started and still continues ^.^
Lol oh the tragedy that was Ayy Girl. I’m glad you gave them another chance! They definitely stepped their game up after that, and that’s something I love about these men- they are constantly improving and growing as artists. Thanks for sharing!
How I have discovered JYJ? I think it’s because ‘accident’ 😀
Since 2011 i start likes K- Drama and some K-Movie. But i dont like kpop and promise to myself to only likes drama. enough. I watched Postman to Heaven, Sungkyunkwan scandal, Protect the Boss.
i dont know name of the main actor. I just think… wow.. the main actor is good and handsome.
But…
In Oct 2011, I accidentally watched Get Out MV in MTV Asia. I shocked. They are boyband..? And.. their voice and dance so beautiful and good. I did not keep my promise.
I search in YT without known the name of their group or their personal name or the title song.When I watched it, i too focus on their face.. LOL. I just remember text ‘In Heaven’ in the MV.
Then, i tell my friend that i saw a amazing BB. She know them and she give me their videos and mp3 since DB5K. I learn their history and their lawist. At first I liked five of them. Homin and JYJ.
But.. now.. I realize, I’m more love and support JYJ.. especially junsu
I started off as a DB5K fan, and I still am one. The 5 original members of DBSK include JYJ. This is a JYJ only site, and I respect that – but ‘JYJ from 東方神起’ guys~
“This is a JYJ only site, and I respect that – but ‘JYJ from 東方神起’ guys~”
LOL yeah, i doubt JYJ fans here doesn’t know that but then even thought they didn’t know..you can tell they are here bcs they just love JYJ and a visitor like didn’t count ^^
Let me add in a missing sentence for you:
And JaeChunSu ARE (present tense) OF JYJ ^^
I know that although i don’t write ‘JYJ from 東方神起’
And i love JYJ NOW and their past.
hello welcome ^^
i know the boys since their DBSK days maybe around 2005 well mostly through their day as Tohoshinki in Japan, i get attracted to Jaejoong voice and his appearance which (seriously ) more like a real japanese than Korean people and their song. But i get my absent for a while till i heard about the lawsuit on 2009 and since then i started followed the boys only, and with the time pass by i started to love Yoochun and junsu like i did to Jaejoong now and i never regret it
Hello Yukkiluv~
I became a tvxq fan in 2007. I am now only a JYJ fan for several reasons. Obviously, they are extremely talented, (which is also why I had originally become a tvxq fan). But JYJ, I have gained so much respect for them since the lawsuit started. They were very brave and strong to fight for what they believe in, to fight for their rights. I admire the fact that they are still fighting strong together, never giving up. They have gone through and accomplished so much, yet remain very humble. They have also truly become real artists, writing and composing so much of their own music, and many of their songs have true meaning to their lives. It’s amazing to see how far they’ve come, and I’m honestly very proud of JYJ. I was a fan of tvxq5 before because they were talented (and of course adorable lol), but JYJ is so much more than that to me. Their strength inspires and encourages me on a whole new level, and this is why they are so special to me. I wish them happiness and success, and I am excited to witness they day when they receive their long overdue justice! I will love and support JYJ forever~♥
hello there @Yukkiluv
i know JYJ from DB5K, when i watched Xman reality show, the episode where DB5K are the special guest in 2010 [the show itself is in 2006, pretty late huh? 😀 ]. you know in K-reality show, there some phrase/sentence comes up right? they’re said ‘asia star’ ‘the king of kpop’ ‘super famous talented singer’ and other stuff. so i’m curious whether are those true or not. so i search on YT, and the first video i watched is Mirotic. an i was like o.O they’re so cooolll! the music is so addictive! and i watched another video, listening their song, and found out that they already split as JYJ. then i listened their japanese songs, and their voice is great! so beautiful! and at the same time i watched SKK Scandal too, so i knew YC then. and until now, i become a fan of JYJ 😉
its been interesting reading up on others stories. here’s mine
I was downloading some music, and without realizing it I downloaded a song by DBSK(rising sun). Well that was a disapointment and plesant surprise (once my anger subsided). So I went to youtube to look them up (cause I did like the song, didn’t know what language I was listening to). And then I was introduced to the world of Kpop through triangle. O . M . G …….. Again I like the song, but I was like wow …… 😯 …… I mean, there should be a warning before watching kpop videos.
Anyways I decided to watch some shows that were subed on the sided panel playlist (cause I needed a break from their kpop mv). And I just kept falling for the guy in the middle. And changmin, but I like him cause he and I are alike, I get his humor. But they were always editing him out more than the others…. So my attention just drifted to Jaejoong. When Jae would speak up, I found myself just laughing out loud. And he’s hot….. Which is a plus….. Hot and funny…..
I was a full fan of theirs, I’d say right before they started their japanese venture. So when it was annouced that three members were filling a lawsuit, I was crushed and faced a dilema. My two favorites were on different teams now. I was a good dbsk fan. I supported them both. That was until one side started to add gas to the fire. The fans were already making things bad with their fighting. But when one side started to speak badly of the others, I switch to support JYJ only. I’m glad I did. Despite all the blocking and hardships, they have shown a real, honest, and true character. All the accusation of greed that some people painted them as, have been proven false both by the courts and those who have and (imo) will in the future work with them.
i know them since dbsk days..i support all 5 of them even after the split becouse i love each one of them until after the duo make the statement about 3 of them..i really2 dissapointed and bit angry..i’ll try to be positive and try not to take side..at end of the day i think i’ll go with my heart..i always thought that i’m the biggest dbsk fanatic fans..i’ll never ever thought that i will love any artist as i love dbsk..but all are wrong..i love jyj more and more..my love for jyj have no boundries..before this even i love dbsk i still listen to other group but now..no group can sastify my heart..i always listen to jyj song every day without miss..i never buy cd but for jyj i always try to find money to buy their music..now i consider myself as jyj fans only..im not kpop fans like before..sometime i think i even hate kpop world like a lot of people in my country..
I’m really curious to know what country you’re from. I’m from America, but I currently teach kindergarten in Japan. Kpop is still pretty big here (I think), but I can definitely tell that it’s not as huge as it had been in the past. A lot of my coworkers who were fans before now talk about the Takeshima/Dokdo Islands when kpop is mentioned. It’s really interesting…..
Thanks for sharing your story!
ok..i’m from malaysia..actually kpop is big here but only for youngsters..im 25 this years..before this. in university i am really dedicated kpop fans..i luv all group..we have group that.really love kpop..but after started work..most of us really dont follow kpop anymore..ww become like all old people that think kpop is a bit annoying..if you like kpop, you will be label kpop maniact that people dont really like..people will not look you serious..if you like drama is ok..but kpop…hmm..people like to labelled me as kpop maniact..but actually i’m not!!i use to be but now i’m only jyj supporter..huhu..
That’s really interesting. Thank you for sharing your story!
In 2010, through a friend I listened to JJ’s –for you it’s separation…– I was touched by the emotion & sweet voice of the artist and had no idea how he looks like, and few month later with –It only my world– The very same friend invited me to watch him performed live through Yutube..seeing JJ sang passionately, i was just speechless and so overwhelmed with emotions( my heart was stolen at this point,I guess) and I found out more about JYJ, I decided to support them and walk alongside with JYJ for however long they needed to survive.
I love that song. Jae’s voice is amazing. Thanks for sharing your story!
I heard DBSK on the soundtrack of the great K-drama “The Legend” and by the end of the series, I was HOOKED. Jaejoong especially just floored me, his incredible, expressive voice which managed to convey so much longing and regret in the song “Forgive Me” … well, for me it was all over but the search on Google. lol Soon enough I learned of the group and only then did I SEE the group. And yes, there was a bit of a Visual Shock in evidence at that point. Then I started buying albums and the rest is history. I was merely a listener for the first years but then I heard about the lawsuit and since I went through a similar situation many years ago with my then-husband who was also caught in the trap of a predatory producer/record label contract gone bad, I could definitely relate to the situation and I have passionately wanted to see justice for JYJ for the last 3 years. That’s my story.
@Lili, sorry but I need to ask you to clarify about the song.
I think the one singing “Forgive Me” is a singer named Jun-Suh, but not our Kim Xiah Junsu, nor DB5K. The only OST-The Legend I know being sung by DBSK is called “A Thousand Year Love Song” (Cheonnyeonyeonga). But thanks to you I finally found this Korean version just now after reading your post and then went straight away asking Mr.Google & Mr.Youtube^^. Just wanna tell that I’ve actually known about this song long ago but it was the Japanese version first, which is called “Sennen Koi Uta”. Well what can I say, both the Japanese and Korean versions turn out to be just as beautiful. And I know I might sounded harsh but, I swear, the voices of JYJ is so evident in this song (both versions), to the point that it’s enough if it was only JYJ singing the song. Seriously. But yeah, maybe it’s just because of my bias heart. The credit should still be given to all five of them, (and if I may add, to the composer, Bravo to full of quality songs!!!)
Btw, is the drama/movie really that great? I become curious to watch it ^^. I really want to post the song here, please allow me, dear admins ^^
@Yukkiluv
OMG! do you mean this isn’t Jaejoong????
@ Lili,… nope… negative, that wasn’t Jaejoong.. I knew it from the voice, it’s different, and this video below is the clearer evidence.
Jun Seo is a member of Korean duo “Blue Spring”.. Sorry but I also have no idea about who is this duo group. Nevertheless, the song’s indeed beautiful, and Jun Seo did a good job.
Anyway, I’m not @Yukkiluv *pout*
@ai uta
OK, well, I guess I have to believe you. 🙂 But now this changes my whole “finding JYJ” perspective! It’s like in “Dr Jin” when he went back and changed one thing – the whole course of history was changed! Oh no! Have I just “undiscovered” my beautiful Jaejoong?? Will I now instantly disappear from the JYJ3 list and start slavishly following “Blue Spring”???? AARRGGHHH!!!
@lilibaiyu
LOL, why must disappear ?
but by the way i think your story for finding JJ and become JYJ fans suddenly more interesting…you should add…because those guy from blue spring who you thought kim jaejoong become the reason you discover JYJ and fall in love with beautiful jaejoong~~
anyway, i’m a Jaejoong fans because a ost too from “A Millionaire’s First Love”
OK this is positively all I could find about “Blue Spring.”
http://123learnkorean.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/korean-artists-blue-spring/
It just reminded me – if you’re not an Idol group in SK, backed by a big-ass entertainment company, you are going to have a very hard slog getting noticed, let alone getting written about, let alone becoming famous and successful. It must be hard when you are talented but independent. JYJ have the best of both worlds, it seems to me. They came up with much difficulty in the Idol system, they became massively successful there and then struck out on their own, still retaining much of the Idol cache and glamour, not to mention the dedicated fanbase. Maybe this is why Jaejoong has said that they are still proud to be called an Idol Group. They still want the huge publicity and fame of that definition while pursuing independent and genuinely artistic goals.
@Lili, 🙂
at least your finding JYJ story was still have a string to connect. Begin with your fondness to the drama, you were starting to listen and love the soundtrack. It was not exactly Jaejoong that you happen to love the voice at first, but DBSK did sing a particular song as well in the drama OST. Didn’t you being impressed by them (particularly JYJ) in ‘a thousand year love song’?
*It must be hard when you are talented but independent.*
It’s so sad, so depressing, I feel like I wanna scream out loud, but you’re statement is true. I just hope there are still a lot of people appreciating real talent… do not buy big entertainment company’s raw manipulations..
Anyway, @Lili, would you mind share with us what happened with your story struggling with your husband in a fight against a record company? What was the result? But it’s OK if you feel like don’t want to answer it.. I’m sorry if I said something wrong..
as for me, i was watching a youtube vid called kpop sexy abs and moves(i was curious hahaha). The background song was dbsk’s mirotic and thats the first time i heard of dbsk, i fell for the song. When i firs saw the vid, i thought they werent that handsome, but for some reason jaejoong left the biggest impression on me. I googled them and when i learned of all the things JYJ went through, i knew it’s them…they are the ones i was absentmindedly looking for. I’m happy….it was their(JYJ’s) voices that attracted me, not their looks.
Before i found JYJ, i knew about kpop from a friend and k-drama just happend to be something to found from watching anime.
OK, I admit I was more shallow! I was surfing the net & came across some pics of Jaejoong & was blown away. At first I dismissed him as being one of those pretty boys who is in love with himself, but something kept drawing me back to him. So I ended up googling him & finding out about DBSK, the split & the lawsuit. The more I found out about Jaejoong, the more I discovered his personality & fell in love with him, & the more I found out about the lawsuit & the reason for it, the more disgusted I was with SM & the more passionately I supported JYJ. Jaejoong, Chunnie & Junsu are really good people, & that really drew me to them. Because of a bad connection, I actually couldn’t hear any of their music for the first few months I was following JYJ, so it was really the lawsuit & all of the injustices that the guys had been dealt, & their personalities, that really got me following them & caring about them. Then I heard their songs & that was it = one lifetime JYJ fan here!
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wat i just saw cant be unseen can it?
@JYJpyara
“wat i just saw cant be unseen can it?”
Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too. I apologise, alwayskeepingmyfaith. I just wouldn’t have anything to say about your picture that would help you.
@o@! 헐 HEOL! What the….. My eyes! My eyes! Someone help me please!
But good luck, let us know what grade you received.
i don’t understand this is for your socail science class
but i’m sure i will have a nightmare tonight..good luck~~
it’s 4am now and i saw that picture? what the..!
i learned about JYJ/DBSK through another group…SS501…thru kim Hyun Joong and his best buddy Jaejoong and soccer friends Mickey and Xia
I become their fans bcs their lawsuit, their never give up spirit to reach their dream become the reason why i support them. Three years lawsuit still on going and they are still here and shining, they are truly a survivor ^^
How I became a fan: I stumbled upon a JYJ news article scrolling across the Yahoo! main page in Nov 2010. I usually peek at a couple of articles on the main page if they seem interesting. So I read the article, and listened to ‘Ayyy Girl’ and really wished them best on breaking into the U.S. market, and then kept on reading other articles. Fast forward to the end of Jan/ beginning of Feb. 2011 and I randomly think “I wonder what happened to those three guys?”, so I YouTube their songs from “The Beginning” and I love their voices. And through searching YouTube, I end up listening to their older music, I saw clips of them on shows and other places, and I got to know/love them and their voices more.
And in the process of trying to see what they were currently up to, I came across JYJ3 and learned about their struggles, the lawsuit and who they are as individuals and that’s when I became a hardcore fan of Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. Knowing about their indomitable spirits, positiveness, humbleness, and giving hearts on top of their talent, made want to support and love them that much more. So, I am very grateful that JYJ popped back into my head those 2-3 months later. 🙂
I came across their story about the lawsuit while surfing the net. Couldn’t stand the injustice caused and especially the guru program where the other ‘s lies. That make me very angry. Most of all they are just good boys with great talent. been following them since through SSK ,rooftop price, Dr.jin.Love junsu’s angelic voice most
Thank you so much to all of you who have shared your stories with me. It’s been fun reading all the different ways in which we have discovered JYJ! It’s amazing how these 3 men have united men and women from all across the globe through their music, passion, and courage. I feel very honored to be a part of this JYJ family. ❤
Hey me too ^^
I did type my story last year so now I just cut it short. (Copied it from my dm’s Twitter thou’ XP)
I was a casual fan of 2VXQ, not/never a Cassie. So it’s really “Chajatta”, I found JYJ. ^^
There was a Japanese drama called “Beautiful Neighbor” shown last year in Jan, I thought theme song was cool so I checked it out and was sang by 2VXQ. That song “Keep Your Head Down” Japanese version. Then from there one thing lead after another, and in the end, it’s JYJ ^^ (I went to their Busan Concerts to prove that I was not sympathizing/empathizes them). I am also a Jaeharem because Jejung tugged my heartstrings most. (He was the first member I followed and that day was the aftermath of Japan Earthquake and I saw his tweets online. I wanted to reach out to this stranger then.)
T/N: As I had some similar experiences like them when I was younger, I am able to relate to them and I hated injustice. And personally, during my “research” on them I know what is wrong and what is right.
Finally we have an impartial review of SM town concert in indonesia by rolling stone Indonesia.They did not do a minus 1 and re-record Mirotic and JJ and JS voice was heard in their performance.Obviously they lip syn their performance.Quote:In addition, a ‘tragedy’ occurs when DBSK appeared singing the song “Mirotic.” Apparently, minus one of the song was not created or re-recorded. That finally, sounding very clear sound like DBSK members Kim Jaejoong and Kim Junsu who has actually been out of the DBSK in 2009 and appeared again in their appearance yesterday. It’s quite mengangetkan though no doubt the appearance of DBSK are the best performers and energetic at the SM Town concert yesterday.
source:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Frollingstone.co.id%2Fread%2F2012%2F09%2F24%2F122909%2F2032219%2F1108%2Flive-review-sm-town-live-world-tour-iii-in-jakarta
ps.admin:Feel free to delete if it is not appropiate.Just thought I like to highlight the injustice for them.At least pay them for using their voice
Oh my. FACE PALM, WHAT A SHAME, or I believe they don’t have SHAME in their dictionary to begin with. What a thick-faced those two to perform with the original song with JYJ’s voices. Yes, that’s SM’s property but don’t they have some decency, considering they are regarded as huge stars? or just huge dancers? ….. aahhhh, now I realized, no need to be worked up having JYJ’s voices in SMTown live concert , why get mad when 2vxq were just merely dancing with the original Mirotic. Now I see, everybody is free to dance with the music one’s like, isn’t it?
Rolling Stone should had boldened this :
In addition, a ‘TRAGEDY’ occurs when DBSK appeared singing the song “Mirotic.” Apparently, minus one of the song was not created or re-recorded. That finally, sounding very clear sound like DBSK members Kim Jaejoong and Kim Junsu who has actually been out of the DBSK in 2009 and appeared again in their appearance yesterday.
Why RS called it a tragedy ? I understand RollingStone is a widely read magazine for music enthusiasts, is it the same in Indonesia? Hwangteja and RS have a lot to answer to LSM, lol.
@kris
This group – Homin – this music, this show is just not something that anybody can even take seriously. The median age for this kind of faux entertainment must be about 14 years old. Only people who know nothing about music could think this is quality entertainment, worth the pretty penny I’m sure their parents had to spend to send them to the concert. This is just an embarrassment. After ALL this time on their own and this is the best that Homin can come up with??? Lip syncing to old DBSK songs??? Good Lord. That’s just sad.
@lili
I think lip syncing is an overstatement, and if they did, it’s really a shame to lipsync with JYJ’s voice. Let’s just call it dancing with old DBSK song , lol !
Lip sync ?…….can we called it as ‘protecting the name’ act too ? ‘shrug’
the one thing that bring a smirk in my lips right now is about the concert review of our Xia in jakarta by 10+ Asia. I am so proud when the reporter write thatThe one thing that really amazing is Xia junsu sing all of his song (17 songs) by LIVE not Lipsync like the usual group do (it’s not the exact words actually but at least it’s have same meaning)
nee….. i just wonder Junsu said that someday JYJ gonna sing their old songs for us and now it seem that they wanna tried to get their own songs back so…. what do u think about this ? If it’s like wasurenaide, shelter, or any songs that our boys create then i am gonna be so happy, but…..how about the other songs, can they do that too ? i mean sing the songs that not created by them ?
@miaw
” what do u think about this ? If it’s like wasurenaide, shelter, or any songs that our boys create then i am gonna be so happy, but…..how about the other songs, can they do that too ? i mean sing the songs that not created by them ?”
Dear miaw – if only it was the U.S. we were speaking of, there wouldn’t be a reason in the world why JYJ couldn’t perform their old songs. But in Asia — in S. Korea, I don’t know the specific laws are there so I don’t know. But what I do know is that what Homin is doing is wrong, it is utterly reprehensible. To still be holding on to hope that these 5 can get back together after cheap stunts like this — well, it’s truly the definition of delusional. These two — Homin — have proven themselves again and again to be no friends of the members of JYJ. Believe me, this is not lost on the guys. JYJ is nothing if not plugged in to every bit of news from every single source as it reates to them and their csreers. They must be terrifically upset and heartbroken by this latest news.
@lili
‘These two — Homin — have proven themselves again and again to be no friends of the members of JYJ. Believe me, this is not lost on the guys. JYJ is nothing if not plugged in to every bit of news from every single source as it reates to them and their csreers. They must be terrifically upset and heartbroken by this latest news.’
actually i want to write a comment more about those people especially about their act but i am afraid that my comment became a really rude and cruel one….. to be honest there are no more a respect to those two from me….no matter what the others said i don’t care anymore, since beginning of the lawsuit till now i never found any good act from those two for our boys ….like u said @lili those two just proven by themselves that they are only hurt our boys with their act. With those act and situation, there are people who still holding on to hope that these 5 can get back together … if i am not see and read also heard by myself i won’t believe it…..more and more i see now the gap between the boys and those people became more large and i don’t find any way to fix it.
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@sunni
Which RS is this? RS Jakarta? I think I will give Jann Wenner an earful about this. This is ridiculous. A pandering, obviously compromised review like this degrades the name and good reputation of Rolling Stone around the world.
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Good. Thanks very much. Because this “review” is a travesty. It has been practically pre-written by SM Entertainment. Rolling Stone should be ashamed of themselves. I will be communicating with them shortly.
I’ve come to really love DB5K’s/TH5K’s songs and I still listen to them now, that’s why I hate it when TV2XQ sing those songs without JYJ. I don’t get why they released the full-length KYHD album if they’re just going around performing old songs. Didn’t they want to start anew? Yunho’s voice and Changmin’s voice cannot, I repeat can never, replace Jaejoong’s and Junsu’s. Why ruins the good memories? And to perform with JYJ’s voices to back them up is just embarrassing. No wonder JYJ’s fans can’t take them seriously.
totally agree with you.
actually i don’t like if homin singing DBSK’s old song, especially when they sing JYJ’s part too. when i heard homin sing mirotic in full version, the JYJ’s part too, i was like ‘damn.. how could you sing their part? how could you??!!!’ well mirotic makes me know to DBSK and that song is amazing! so when homin singing it their version, i was like %@%#^$*%(^(&
Am I the only one annoyed about C-Jes interfairing in “I MISS YOU casting, this is reducing the quality of drama for sure, i was really,very interested in drama coz of Yoochun of course and also coz of writer and director, whether the drama rating were high/low i wanted to give my full support…now though I am interested in drama i m not that exited.. i just went to korean site for the reaction about the actress (2nd lead) casting on this drama and it was not that good, they are saying c-jes is using yoochun to gain more profits and i think the same this is making not only making C-JeS look bad but also people are saying to will not watch if she in the drama.. the production should already reveal the lead actress to the public only she can save the drama now the 2nd lead is already making damages to the drama… I really hate c-jes for doing that, thanks for ruining the drama quality. I know i am no one to judge her but C-JeS this time is just trying to ruin everything.
There’s a great song that breaks down how money controls and manipulates people and the world. It’s called “For the Love of Money” by the OJay’s. And there’s a saying that when there are shenanigans afoot, pay close attention to one phrase: “Follow the money.” It’s the unspoken (and secret) rule behind all greed.
why they think like that about the 2nd lead actress ? and i heard she coming from cjes too..does this is the reason why people dislike her ? do you think the reaction will be different if the actrees is song ji hyo (she is from cjes too and a really good actrees ) ?
Probably they are prejudiced because of her past history acting record . They were saying that because of her supposedly tarnish image. But personally I feel she should be given the chance to prove her acting skill instead .If she acted not up to expectation then there is a ground but by lumping all these with cjes and yuchun is just not fair. Maybe Cjes has a hand but it is still understandable as they would want someone from their company.
agree, we should give her change, i don’t know her, never watch her drama but as a labelmate and yoochun still known as rocky actor too..i’m sure they will helping each other and this women is a 2nd lead right so yoochun will be fine at least this is not as bad as when you watch jaejoong drama Dr.Jin..he is even a veteran actor and a main lead (sorry SSH fans)..i skip his part..
My thinking is this, just because we read/hear something coming from a Korean site doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the truth. The quality of a drama is not determined by a single person, in this case the actress from CJES, whom you are assuming will be the downfall of this drama. No offence, but let’s not spread these rumors and cause unnecessary panic in the fandom.
yep, the reactions are quiet bad. i understand many of you want to defend cjes, but that doesn’t really hold the opinion of k-netizens or k-viewers… so yeah, let’s just see… after all this rumor, i doubt they can still get an a-list actress as the lead. i think they need a really really good production team to compensate this all. don’t worry, reply 1997 initial reaction isn’t that good due to the idols and all, but they eventually got the hype and the soundtracks are still charting. on the other hand, remember king2hearts and all the hype with the powerful leads? not enough to keep the viewers i guess.
PD-nim and staffs, please make it good~!
@mikyoo
Rather than spread this kind of negativity about the people who represent Yuchun and JYJ, why not just wait and see what transpires? Give the people a chance to do their jobs. Spreading bad feelings about the project before they’ve even announced a full cast list isn’t helpful in any way. You can’t influence their decisions one way or the other, all you can do is discourage people from supporting Yuchun’s new drama.
i’ve been wanting to ask about this before. you said it’s okay back then when yoochun deactivate his twitter acc and people start asumming thing. how’s that different from this one? if we really encourage different fandom nature which is okay with rumors or unpopular opinion and such, because we know how to differentiate things and take everything with grains of salt, then post like this shouldn’t be discouraged for “spreading negativity”…. it just a disastifaction from a fan’s perspective. we can always disagree with anything though.
sorry if i’m being impolite. this is what i’ve thought… ._.
@noiha
“you said it’s okay back then when yoochun deactivate his twitter acc and people start asumming thing. how’s that different from this one? ”
No, not at all — you’re not being impolite. We Americans welcome healthy debate and reasoned discourse, whether in agreement or not. I know that you feel that we are insulated here on JYJ3. That we do not hear the harsh and distasteful things that people say about us and about JYJ elsewhere. This does not bother me. Rather, it frees me to stop arguing, to stop merely defending myself and my opinions and to say what it is that I believe is the way forward. ALWAYS FORWARD.
Now in this case, I can see no possible reason why it should be at all helpful to Yuchun for people to be spreading negativity far and wide about his new drama way before it has even been fully cast, let alone before it has even started into production. Since I want the best possible outcome for the members’ various projects, I wrote what I wrote. I’m assuming that you also want the best possible outcome. So even though it seems like I’m not being consistent, the bottom line is that I am on the side of the members of JYJ, always.
So much and so many — so powerful are the entities against them. I want to always be FOR them. That’s really all you need to know about my motives.
I’m not entirely sure I buy the whole “C-Jes interference” histrionics. She was announced as the second lead well after Yoochun’s lead was announced. It would make sense for a management company to submit candidates for other roles in the project but I really don’t think it was one of those situations where Yoochun’s participation was held hostage in order for her to land the role. I really don’t care about the second lead and am more concerned with who will be the primary. The secondary leads for RTP were…not exactly successful, partly due to overacting and partly due to lack of character development, but it didn’t really hurt the success of the series as a whole.
I really have never cared about a management company but I do wish C-Jes success and to be able to procure more talented artists because the stronger the company is, the stronger they can be against the blockades against JYJ.
Interesting posts, thanks everyone for sharing. For me, I knew about them in 2006 from YouTube, I thought their Korean music is average at best. I only started liking them when I followed their Japanese songs. The first song I listened to was their first Japanese album which was unfortunately and still is so underrated as they where no one when they released it thus the poor sales, however it still is one of my favorite albums by them. I always appreciated their career as THSK than DBSK, it’s where they learned true music, mastered live performance, & opened their eyes to the true world and started to see through the illusion that was their life in that agency. Jaejoong was & still is my favorite member and voice out of all of them. There is something difficult to explain about his voice and sensitivity while singing.
I followed them through the years & it always baffled me how underrated and underutilized JJ’s talent and voice in Korea. I always had the feeling that SM did not allow him yo explore,improve as they were afraid that this will open his eyes to his value and worth. Long story short; I follow JJ as an individual artist; as a singer and actor, & will also support his group activities. Him in JYJ makes me a JYJ supporter with full respect,support, and appreciation for Junsu & yoochun solo activities as well. As for the other 2, let’s just say they are part of the past & that’s where they belong.
This is the first song I listened to & liked for them, JJ’s singing voice is my favourite in Japan & among Japanese voices.
this is an interesting editorial: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.no/2012/09/why-does-korea-interpret-netizen.html — some of the comments are also equally interesting. i wonder if jyj themselves ever read jyj3 and monitor the responses, hehe. but i think that acgae rumors back then are heard by them, and they probably also read those people harassing them via twitter… ah, it’s a though world to be celebrity. i certainly understand if yoochun wants to close his twitter back then. i hope jyj guys can stand strong no matter what.
helloooo.
just worried and curious….is there still something for us to wait for regarding the lawsuit since its suspended indefinite…
sorry for my bad english grammar…
I haven’t heard anything. It kind of boggles my mind that the court decided to do this. Suspending indefinitely?! Is that even legal? Isn’t that essentially refusing to do their job? I really, really don’t understand the logic. The court told SM they couldn’t interfere with JYJ activities but JYJ are banned due to the legal dispute so suspending indefinitely essentially allows the entertainment industry to ban them indefinitely.
@mkverse
That is correct — at least that’s my understanding of it. JYJ are in suspended animation. At first I was hoping that perhaps the court would ride herd on the two sides and INSIST that they arrive at an agreement. I thought if the court exerted enough pressure maybe there would be a resolution. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. SM is doing to JYJ exactly what LSM did to Chunnie 3 years ago – they are simply refusing to negotiate at all.
I have new news about JYJ vs SM lawsuit : @TVXQfacts
[INFO] JYJ/TVXQ-SM Law Suit final reconciliation will be on the 8th of October. (via. Tumblr+99988665233+cassiopeia_bali). hope this is really a final
@julia
So any further updates on this revelation? Since it’s such a BOMBSHELL, I was just wondering if there had been any confirmation.
[share] i never really like block b before, but this song is soooooo true. >< anyway, this song is released by zico as a chuseok gift to his fans. it's about this whole trainee idol life… i guess those idols can relate to this song… T_T
Zico (Block B) – Battle Royal
My eyes open before the day breaks
Stuff in chicken breasts, lettuce into my mouth
Dash out to Han River, run a marathon
Anemia value rises, feeling sharp pains
Can’t finish, time to be exempt, pushup several times
I can just eat at an unwelcomed place then throw up
I tighten my belt, Fuck I gained a bit
Mr. Representative wants it, a body like a cola bottle
There are no allies, they say colleagues will soon be enemies
Blood-like sweat became horrific traces
When I can’t bear the practice room, I go to the bathroom
I secretly sob, taking care of it as quickly as possible
First priority is appearance
Eventually a wholesome face goes under the knife
A systematic production of human weapons
music bull shit? they wanna be a Famous. aight?
Because I said let’s become a star, I’m on the verge of insanity
I become a prey on my own, stirring my spoon
Battle royal, a profession where I must survive
If you waver you’re disqualified, move it just begun
Murderous looks keeping each other in check
When I turned around after running for a long time
I had lost my innocence and became a villain
No one will forgive me
I will survive as I live
I must survive until the end
The sound of shouting fills the hall
The hand gesture that forces more stimulation
A layer is taken off, fully gesturing erotically
Even though it looks beautiful, the inside is mangled from rotting
I successfully endured with a sober mind
One person pours tears, saying it’s now too much
This reality tangled with lies and impossible insistence
I’m scared to face it
Brightly colored balloons, plank card slogans
Take those out then everything else is criticism or resentment
No one knows, the saint becomes the right path
A chance to talk without being cursed at is given
Parents who boast about their precious daughter
The dust that enters their mind, their eyes
Engulfed in the feeling of betrayal, they shake their heads
Did they achieve their dream or lose their dream
Murderous looks keeping each other in check
When I turned around after running for a long time
I had lost my innocence and became a villain
No one will forgive me
I will survive as I live
I must survive until the end
***
Trans Credit: youngha @ BLOCKBINTL
Thanks @noiha
Just so sad TT… more sad because they are still too young!!!
@noiha
Thanks for posting that. It is horrible. This is the reality that has JYJ caught in a stranglehold even after they managed to get away. These big entertainment companies are the people pulling the strings. They are contemptible.
@lilibaiyu
“These big entertainment companies are the people pulling the strings. They are contemptible.”
Ditto to that ^^
JYJ fighting!!!
JYJ fans fighting!!!
@noiha
My God that is so horrific. 😦 I feel a bit sick after reading those lyrics. Every Kpop fan should be made to read these lyrics.
Hi @Yukkiluv & fellow JYJers,..I’m glad that you chose this topic and
it’s interesting to read all the different stories that led us to JYJ…
For me, I was introduced to Tohoshinki(TVXQ) by a friend just after we graduated in 2008 and didn’t have a career yet…
Then, all we wanted to do was form/be in a pop rock group!!! I still remember the first song we heard was “Purple Line’ and we were
so tickled when we heard Micky sang the epic language failure line ‘really wanna touch myself’ (ofc later we found out it’s supposed to mean wanna be in touch with myself). Micky was so hot and gorgeous and I thought he was the coolest person I’ve ever encountered and began steeping myself with their works and songs…(Ofc now it’s JYJ’s works/songs)
When TVXQ/DBSK broke up, I was devastated, but being Micky bias I followed JYJ and all that happened/are happening to them…and understand that this break up is something that had to happen….
Ironically, I think JYJ is better now!!! Their music has become deeper and reflects more of them and they are able to do music that they love. Individually too, they have also grown as an artist in the music and acting worlds and through these rough times they have got up, persevered and continue to do so and become adults that I’m proud to know , love and support and would continue to do so….. and now whatever little effort I could do to help make it easier for them I’m in!!!!
Did you guys read this article? It’s nothing new, it’s just seems to pop in the KR media, so I wonder if anything is done about it:
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/09/why-does-korea-interpret-netizen.html
thanks..yeeesss i also knew about it yesterday on twitter…hope its final..have the verdict to end the lawsuit
@julia