The media reported today some of the evidence that contradict Yunho’s statement that he was unaware of JYJ’s lawsuit at the time of its filing.
The below are the main excerpts from the article, translated:
On today’s program, Yunho and Changmin made statements such as “when (JYJ) submitted their lawsuit against SM, we didn’t know that they had filed the lawsuit and we were shocked.” They also said that “TVXQ could have been even greater but because JYJ made such an extremist choice (the lawsuit) we couldn’t do our activities as 5, so we are hurt by them.”
Among the evidences that the netizens (T/N: one of them being DC TVXQ Gallery) presented are: an article on TVXQ from January of last year, an interview article with JYJ’s legal counsel, Yunho’s father’s press statement in its entirety, and others.
The last schedule by the 5-member TVXQ was the ‘Red-White Singing Competition” of Japan’s NHK on December 31, 2009. The next day, Japan’s Niponichi heavily publicized the news of TVXQ’s split-up.
The article said that TVXQ’s Japanese agency Avex said that “because around August of 2008, the five members all said that they’d leave SM, they should have the same mindset inside. We cannot dismiss the possibility that the five will come together to start their (new) activities.”
(…)
The press statement that Yunho’s father drafted on November 1, 2009 was also presented as evidence. It said that “the reason for the JYJ’s desertion is the desire for the cosmetics company (T/N: This claim was rejected to be false, both by the Korean Attorney’s Office and the Seoul Central District Court) . From February 2009, the three members suggested that (the other two members) leave too…
It is clear that, objectively, at the very least, one of either Yunho or Yunho’s father cannot be telling the truth. Their statements are inconsistent.
Source: Nate
Credit: JYJ3
LMAO!! BUSTED eh!! You can’t lie forever JUNG YUNHO!! #UknowLying
#unknownothing caught lying..
OR maybe he’s really that STUPID to not know what’s happening under his nose…lol
i lost all my respect for him..at this point i dont even know how he became the leader…from what he’s acting cannot even formulate a more credible reason or excuse..lol or maybe he’s really that stupid to think that people will believe this outright lie..they live in the same house, sleep in the same room (with one of them), their almost together 24/7 how could he not know?????
Really Uknow??do you know nothing??? then i guess im right to say you are #UKnownothing.. lol
Why so much hate towards HoMin?
Why so much hate to JYJ?
They are TVXQ, as 5… don’t bash Yunho or Max, you don’t know if they are telling the truth or not, and YOU ARE NOBODY to JUDGE them.
I love JYJ and I love HoMin, it really hurts viewing the posts of people like you (if you are cassies of course) bashing sides like this. If you are a cassiopeia you can’t bash any side because we need to love them no matter what.
and if you are only JYJ fan, keep in mind that Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun still loving and caring HoMin if you hurt them, you are hurting JYJ.
Stop this, cuz is too childish~
@fbz
It’s good that you love all 5. No one is going to try and convince you not to. However, if you take a look at the title of this site it says JYJ3 – Just for JYJ Lovers.
No body here ‘hates’ HoMin. They are ANGRY because lies are being told to damage the character and reputation of JYJ. I personally would never let anyone tell lies about someone I cared about and stay silent.
Yunho is a grown man, therefore, must accept responsibility for his words, deeds, and actions. You said it yourself JYJ still love HoMin. Have you heard any of JYJ telling lies about Homin? If you have, please share them with us, providing links.
Not everyone here is a Cassie. I’ve been an International TVXQ fan for a few years. I don’t hate HoMin, I just feel supremely sorry for them. I do despise SME. Don’t mind telling you, I think they are bloodsuckers. But HoMin chose to stay there, and must now bear the consequences of those actions.
If they are going to go out into the public arena and spout the company line, they are fair game. The two of them at this point are now company spokespersons.
I’m going to sound like a mother hen right now, so stay with me here:
People on this site are mature enough – even those precious young juniors – to understand what is going on. We are NOT confused, hormonal, or uninformed. We have enough intelligence to figure out what is real and what isn’t. We know how to look out for our JYJ, don’t worry your self on that account. If you are really concerned about the relationship between the two groups, please go to HoMin and tell them to keep it real, don’t LIE. It isn’t pretty when they do it, they are not good liars.
When you come to a site that says JYJ in the title, expect to find folks who will be guarding their backs. Thank you for visiting. Drop in again sometime, especially after you have heard from HoMin about your request to keep it real.
Have a good day. PEACE
we’ll be trending #ilovejyj at 8pm KST to show our love for jyj, and to celebrate the opening of ilovejyj.com ♥
see ya all JYJ family at twitterland! ^^
BY@petiteange22
So true!
wow 0_0. Bravo NATE for quick response and the hard cold true
this is good news. Media speaks up for JYJ please.
Burn by the media!
see ot5 fans? its not just crazy jyj stans being a trouble maker and paranoid. stop putting the blame on us.
they prob will ignore this anyway, what can u hope for ppl who dont even believe hotel girls exist, and just pin it as jyj fans making up rumors
hey im a OT5, but im not stupid, i can see a lie when they throw it at my face! im so disappointed!but now im really curious! what happen with the hotel girls? hahaha
apologize if I offended u..are u asking what hotel girls are or what they are doing? I’m too lazy to search for link..but u can pretty much look it up on this site about them lol
or u could go to dctvxqgall.wordpress.com they’re fans from korean fan site dctvxq, they even dedicated a division to tackle rumors and gossip spread by hotel girls.. hope this helps
Can we please not talk about these two “innocent victims did not know” BS for today and spend our precious time on worth while cause….
JYJ INTERNET RADIO WILL DEBUT TODAY!!!!!
NOT GONNA WASTE A SINGLE SECOND ON ANYTHING BUT ILOVEJYJ.COM!!!!!!
yeah………. million likes!!!!!!!!! 😀
To HM:
1) Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
2) Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a man of some sense to know how to lie well.
3) Please don’t lie to me, unless you’re absolutely sure I’ll never find out the truth.
4) Liars need to have good memories.
To HM stans:
1) If a lie is repeated often enough, all the dumb jackasses in the world not only get to believe it, they even swear by it.
A+++++
OH SNAP!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! The most embarrassing thing ever happen in 2011~
woah its out in the news? SMH this is embarrassing! Uknow…you want a mask? I have one with JJ face. I can give it to you.
LOL
lol
LOL
ROFL
super lol
LOL #6
All statement from yunho n changmin is scenario by FUCK SME !!!
The Real Enemy Is not JYJ/HOMIN but FUCK SME !!!
If U Real Cassiopeia U Must Be Not Stand Only For JYJ but Stand For YUNJAEYOOSUMIN
#TVXQ5FOREVER
yes and people who follow SM order are worth standing up for?
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
eh?! “If U Real Cassiopeia U Must Be Not Stand Only For JYJ but Stand For YUNJAEYOOSUMIN ” this words are foreign to me… I’m not cassie but a JYJ fan… and this site is for JYJ family,and no room for other people…
ILOVEJYJ.COM better check the site now 🙂
i cant open d website… it 2 slow… must be traffic… 😦
*SCOFF ur saying there is no room for us?
JUST TO REMIND YOU GUYS, CASSIOPEIA WHO SUPPORTS ALL FIVE WONT JUST FIT IN A ROOM
@wishheart707
The main problem JYJ fans have with some OT5 fans is due to the PERSISTENT insisting that we must support HM and we are to keep quiet when HM/SM/SM families insult/accuse JYJ.
We respect your desire to continue to support all5 when the situation has come to this BUT please also respect our choice to just be there for JYJ.
If HM or anyone did not talk about JYJ, we couldn’t care less.
However, if anyone, ot5 fans included, try to teach us how to be a “TRUE fan”, then I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
@wishheart707
u dont have to remind anyone here anything. we all know cassiopeia is the biggest fan club in the world.
u r welcome here anytime, but could u please left ur arrogance outside and realize that not everybody here is a cassie and dont push ur ot5 believe in here. Just like u choose to support all 5. This site support only JYJ. how hard is it to understand?
believe im a cassio since 5 years ago, and even me being a grow up woman i cry like a baby when all this happen!! with the pass of the time i have realize a lot! i am not stupid, and my crazy fandom to OT5 can’t make me close my eyes and ears to all this sh*t! i think i cry again when i saw yesterday what homin did, cause my OT5 crash to the floor! i will follow them as musicians, but i am a JYJ fan, i love them cause they are pure, one say keep your head down, and the other sing W!! who are being true friends here? i am cassiopeia and i will shine for my gods!! but if the Olympus is crashing down i will protect and stand for JYJ my Rising Gods of the East!!!
is that some kind of a chanting?
we all know SM is the real evil here. but u as their fans, could u not stop denouncing homin’s intelligence by saying they are forced by SM all the time? because u just made them sounds like they are puppets.
Precisely, why insult their intelligience? Everything that is wrong has to do with SM? OK, I can concede to that but why did they acquiesce to it?
with what Homin says there’s no way will be TVXQ5. not now at the very least. its all about TVXQ2 now. what TVXQ5 when those fuckers play victims and talked shit about JYJ.
sadly, that FUCK SME is what those two chose.
when ones choose retard company, even after knowing that retard company is retard, they ARE retard.
god, how I hate this kind of “the enemy is SME”; “SM makes scenario”; “these two are forced to do what SM said”, etc.
coz IMO, staying with SM means agreeing with SM conducts, willingly or not.
SWWEEEET
DC gallery is mentioned in the news AND yunho got beotch slapped too!!
ah~ finally my day got better!
^_______________^
People say that HM might be telling the truth… I would have given them a benefit of a doubt if it wasnt for the fact that their stories are inconsistent and contradict each other… Should I just believe someone who doesnt get their story straight?
waaa I didn’t expect it to make it to the news… Now they are done 😛 They weren’t going to lie… We warned them many times… tsk tsk tsk…
I Love the way they lie
they really arent the brightest are they?
Yunho and Changmin ten years down the line when you look back at what you achieved and how you achieved it are you going to feel good about yourself?
They might think they’re going to rely on their (severely limited) acting chops but SMe is just going to throw them away and eventually they will fade away into obscurity.
JYJ on the otherhand might not even sell 1/10 of what they can with the backing of a big agency and marketing but they will be doing what they love on their own terms for as long as they want.
I’m listening to that song now lol
IA. With the new group that I heard SM plans to debut, I’m almost certain that the two of them will slowly fade away from the public’s eye.
I think the part that really gets to me is how Homin is able to stand and watch their beloved SM do their dirty to JYJ and STILL DO the Knee Drop show – like they have deluded themselves somehow that it is all OK (and that THEY are actually the hurt party).
An extremem example would be like watching your best friend being tortured and thinking ‘Well, thats what happens, you knew this would happen if you left (thats why we didn’t leave)- it is what it is”
I have been quoting appropo songs so now you reminded me of Rihanna’s/Eminem’s “love the way you lie” ^^
*imagining Jeje saying to Uknow~*
“Just gonna stand there and watch me burn,
But that’s all right, because I like the way it hurts.
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry,
But that’s all right, because I love the way you lie,
I love the way you lie.
I love the way you lie”
@JUNO,whenever I heard people mention about this song ,I ‘m always thinking about this FANCAM :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNy_eBC37g
I ‘m wanna cry & I think I love our JYJ even more after watch it each time…
This song is created for you uknownothing ahahaha
Liar, liar, pants on fire
Liar, liar, stop your soul from catching
Fire, fire, god and maker
Liar, liar, you fucking liar
You’re gonna burn in hell
You’re gonna burn in hell
Hell, hell, hell
You will burn in hell, they say
You will burn in hell
hahahaha
hahahah you make my day!
slap in ur own face…. well i think i need 2 clear my mind frm all this… i need 2 prepare 4 tonight… cant wait 4 ilovejyj.com…….. guys lets celebrate tonight k….. love u guys soooo much……. 😀
epic fail
foot successfully lodged firmly in mouth
not just foot…dirt, muds, grasses, grease
BUSTED~~~~ LOL forever
dont forget geese poop too! 😛
lol
A++++
Okay okay media I see you 🙂
(runs back in Junsu cat post).
JUNG YUNHO!!!>>> who you calling a liar??? JYJ??? Its you or your daddy!!!!
WAE???? U dont know, dont you?? Thats because your name is UKNOWNOTHING!!!
Best Leader my ASS!!! More like worst leader in the history of kpop or best LIAR or best leasder to lie about his members and his group! Sure you can have those awards!!!
Dont blame JYJ if the name tvxq suddenly vannished.. Because its your fault!! You and your selfish, arrogant self!! You have the most lying heart!!!
Its so stupid of you to make such statements to make people believe in you and your company!!
Did you not think of the evidences that have been circulating on the web?? Like videos on youtube?? where you and junsu having couple talk??? Talking about the lawsuit?? Do you have an amnesia?? Should i hit your head hard for you to remember???
That was a BAD And unwise move you made…
Continue keeping your head down until it heads to the ground!! And realize that you already got nothing( except voldagoose and your daddy and family along with your SM MAFIA family)!!
Remember this!!! The more you talk bullshit.. The more we protect JYJ !! Remember that!!
And the truth is always on our side because we always have evidence to prove it!!!
lolz! omg! i love your “continue keeping your head down until it heads to the ground” line.. that’s epic! lol
your comments really made me laughed and cried at the same time …….sounds like ahjumma angered to their sons but tried to make them reunite in peace again TT_____TT lol
let’s TIP ALLKPOP Guyss
IKUZE
lets go
if we mass tip them maybe they’ll do it
should we send the original source?
yes send the original…also tweet it to them @allkpop
I am sending anything that need to be sent. Whuahhaha
REALLY? It is in the news? as in news? I’m happy with this turn out of events, so fast, immediate retaliation…militant JYJ fans ready to fight all those lies and defamation!
Knowing that they wanted out of SM and knowing that they were going to file the lawsuit at that particular time are two different things…
they WERE going to file the lawsuit at that particular time are two different things…
Homin BACK OUT at the last minutes, JYJ are the one who actually shocked because of the sudden back out.
i just went on SYC how can SYC be taken over by Homin stans?
Its SYC FFS!
it was my first dbsk/jyj site and had the most traffic
i dont know what to say
coz they actually a HoMin stans not JYJ stans. That site is ridiculous with their POV i dunno. they have the right to choose just like us. well i just hope they should change the name.
Yap. Change to “Sharing HoMin”
That is not true.
They try their best to be a dbsk5 site…
is very hard, but lets not forget they have done a lot of things for JYJ too.
Oh. I have stopped visiting SYC to avoid all HM stuffs and what not. It used to be peaceful there but I dont know what went wrong. International fandom is quite a mess right now. Good thing site like this exist for us loyal JYJ stans.
So i see.. Because the name is SYC, i automatically thought they are JYJ bias. I was wondering why theres no news about certain things that should be shared together. How stupid of me! (i am new to this blogging world) Now got to go and erase them from my bookmark list
It’s ‘taken over’ by whoever comments most in a given post…if you want to change that, comment more. The mods post what comes from both sides well enough IMO, the main bias I see is that at least one of them is a total YunJae stan.
dont get me wrong i’m not bashing the mods
i dont agree with their choice to selectively filter out anything that “some” people might find offensive but if they decided to be ot5 i get that.
i have seen a sharp uptick in anti jyj sentiment lately
Yeah although a their posting has slowed down a lot (they post old stuff) or update waaaay slower now and days. And theirs also some stuff they don’t post that some feel like they should. One of the mods is a yunjae fan but yunjae post have stopped since about the time of the big blow-out that happened around the end of last year the beginning of this year. More yoosu stuff get posted 1.because they still hang out and 2.because they get less complaints.
I don’t really like syc these days like I said slow post and some things not posted then the wank on what is posted and the double standards of the people who comment…just not worth it. I find myself visiting out of habit because syc was the first place I started getting info.
Hm. Actually, that might be a side effect of all the new JYJ only sites: we come to places like this, and that decreases our presence elsewhere. Plus the antis have gotten extra bitter with the duo’s debut LOL.
@Juno
Nah! It’s still supper JYJ in SYC. You’ll realise that those supporting HM there are about two or three, but they keep posting and reposting like nobodies business. Meanwhile the most JYJ fans in SYC comes in late and when they post, their meaningful posts don’t even show up (talking from experience. Or just when they are about to post, they find the comment section “locked” by admins. So all you see are the 2-3 HM fans posting their anti comments all over the place.
really? wah!
When you lie, sooner or later you will get caught… Sigh, a part of me pities them (because deep down I still care a bit for them, I just can’t hate them, I’m really angry at them yes but I can’t fully hate them) because it’s clear as a day that SME doesn’t care about them, if the do they’d stop dragging 2vxq and the true meaning of tvxq down the mud, they wouldn’t allow these two to blatantly lie on national tv of all places.
Lol. Now we can see who’s the one telling lies here.
Oh I love Nate for doing this. I wonder if SM or Yunho is aware of this article. And if they are, I wonder how they feel, especially Yunho. SM should be aware that not all OT5 fans are supporters of SM and some JYJ fans are formerly OT5 fans. Maybe SM forgets that there are fans who have been watching and monitoring the lawsuit from the very beginning.
On the other hand… I don’t why but I don’t like this statement: “TVXQ could have been even greater but because JYJ made such an extremist choice (the lawsuit) we couldn’t do our activities as 5, so we are hurt by them.” Bad vibes. Meeehh. Whatever!
oh, you said that unni. TVXQ could have been greater if you all five left!!! but you both just ruin tvxq’s name, thankyou for that.
Because they dig their own grave.
Here “LIES”
(insert name here)________ &(here) ________.
Kiss your career goodbye. Hence Rest in Peace.
I can’t ever be mad at these guys, so I can’t bash them like everyone else is. But I am a little angry. Yunho shouldn’t have said something like that.
I do agree though that TVXQ could have been bigger if the lawsuit didn’t occur. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have filed the lawsuit. I’m happy JYJ filed the lawsuit, they have so much freedom!
Let’s just focus on the good things happening for JYJ right now, such as the radio station and the world tour. We haven’t had good news in a while.
I’ll continue to support all groups (including TVXQ5)! JYJ Fighting!
I feel sorry for Yunho, he probably didn’t think of the consequences of what he said or he would have kept his mouth shut. HoMin had a “secret recording” for the show and poured out their “deepest feelings” and they ended up being exposed as liars. SMH. I wonder why the show had to be secretly taped? So, they will be more comfortable, so the press release said. The ratings weren’t as impressive as they could have been. HoMin stans are saying that it is because the show wasn’t advertised but I heard about the show days before it aired and I am not living in Korea. HoMin should have just said, no comment to any controversial questions instead of saying half-truths and downright lying. SM is really hanging them out to dry.
i dont feel sorry for him a all
KHD is a personal friend
i’m sure it was scripted and if not scripted atleast discussed beforehand
they will be completely vetted by SM before they say anything.
Cassiopeia is large enough to be a small country
everything they say will be weighed before they say it
Yunho was playing dirty politics last night
It was a low blow and it payed off for him atleast…for now
If SM can brainwash a 26 year old man to have no will of his own all the neo nazi groups in the world need to get in contact with them to learn these revolutionary brainwashing techniques.
Personal friend of Yunho now it seems. It paid off for him in regards to those who believe him. I find it hard to believe in certain things especially about them being hindered by the lawsuit. Yunho was the first person to have a solo activity and Changmin started filming his drama first, it appeared like he was dormant only because instead of filming while being broadcasted as it is the usual case in Korea, the drama was finished before a TV station bought and boradcasted it. If I believe that SM can manipulate them so much, I will either have to believe that they are really stupid with no decision making ability of their own or they chose to do what the company told him to as they want to do so. The reason for choosing to follow orders, I don’t know. Contractual obligations? Personal gains? If SM can brainwash him so well they will be taking over the world soon.
yeah i know right
people need to throw out the they were brainwashed argument
Ladies, don’t forget to take part in the new project lead by thejyjfiles. it is a important one.
Yeah I could never understand this. I already left some ot5 sites because it uncomfortable for me to read the happy news of the other 2 when I know how difficult it is for JYJ to even have some kind of happy news.
I dont visit there. I dont bother to comment when some ppl say bad things about JYJ. I just dont torture myself by reading things that I know I wont like.
But coming to a jyj lover only site and then complain when its not up to ur expectation of loving all 5. I am totally lost.
ikr!!
It’s weird isn’t it?
JYJ fans don’t go to HM sites or OT5 sites and tell them to support our boys yet HM stans and OT5 fans like to come here and preach and TELL us how to behave like a TRUE fan..
duh~
Sometimes I wonder why they are so persistent.
Then it strikes me that perhaps they are afraid once JYJ fans really ignore their idols, then there will no longer be anymore worthy publicity for them!
I for one cannot see how HM duo can survive long as a pair when compared with JYJ.
So if that “link” to JYJ is no longer valid, that will be the start of their downfall.
Which is why those HM stans and ot5 fans kept coming to JYJ sites and try to convince us to support them.
MTE. being ignorance should have its limits.
I agree. I also left ot5 sites because somehow I just can’t stand how they sugarcoating some news/info/trans.
As for HM fans, not trying to generalize all of them, but mostly, they’re so offensive toward HM and at the end bash JYJ like crazy.
As for ot5 fans, I think most of them are being delusional. Can’t they see what Act 2 did (especially what so called leader?) Why they always try to drag JYJ and this lawsuit thing in their interviews?
HM fans who happened to be JYJ antis often say that JYJ are playing their ‘self-pitying’ card to get supporters, please. I think I can ask the same thing about their idol now.
LADIES……………..SHOW YOUR SUPPORTS FOR THE NEW PROJECT ……..DO AS MUCH AS U CAN…
ABT THESE 2 BLAHBLAH,SORRY BUT I’M GONNA SAVE MY ENEGRY NOT WORTH WASTIN’IT OVER THIS BS.JYJ &JYJFELLOWS…FIGHTOOO^^
When I read the translations I think it could be interpreted one of two ways:
1. “We didn’t know they were going to go to court PERIOD.”
2. “We didn’t know WHEN they were going to go to court.”
The first is unbelievable, the second not so much. Are fans who know Korean agreed on the interpretation or is it ambiguous in Korean as well?
either way by not explaining it they ruined jyj’s rep
LOL I wouldn’t go that far. We’re all still fans.
i dont mean us but the perception of neutral people
Neutral people outside fandom?
I think she means new comers or people looking on from the outside…which is a good number.
if he meant it the second way he would have said
“We didnt know when jyj files the lawsuit” or something long those lines
When jyj filed their lawsuit against sme we didn’t know about it sounds totally didn’t to me.
I guess it goes by how much you’re pushing the korean, but I think it would’ve been translated different in that case.
Hmm… there are some inconsistencies, but I truly think that there are also many things that are lost in translation…
From my understanding, it seems as if all five of them have discussed the matters beforehand and knew of the lawsuit but didn’t know when it would actually happen. I don’t think Yunho was notified by the other members when they filed the lawsuit (although he did know that filing the lawsuit was going to happen….)
That’s my take on it….
About the splitting up of DBSK… It’s such is a difficult topic for both HoMin and JYJ… Every time I see them talk about it, there’s an awkward and sad atmosphere… I think they are all still very emotional about everything so I forgive them for any discrepancies…
I also don’t think it is respectful to call other people liars or to denigrate them… Let’s all try to keep those insults, rage and anger else where… ^^; It makes me uncomfortable when I read it, and I never know when a hateful comment will pop up, whether it is about JYJ or HoMin… It’s honestly tiresome… I can’t wait for the lawsuit to be over and for the hating to just stop.
I can’t imagine what kind of crowd will happen if or when TVXQ reunite. Will the fans at a concert spend more time bashing each other than listening to the members’ music? This worries me sometimes… let’s not hate? ^^;;
like Ive said before he didn’t say he didn’t know when. So one can only go by what he said.
And then wouldn’t shock be the total wrong word if he knew it was coming just not when?! Why would you be shocked about something you knew was coming just not what time it was coming?
Not to be rude but if you don’t like to read bad comments then…don’t read any comments because you’re always gonna read bad ones.
And about the disrespectful part. Its as rude to lie as to be called a liar.
You can be shocked even if you know something is coming if you’re in denial, hoping it won’t happen. Like…”I can’t believe this is happening!” feeling.
But it is funny to emphasize that.
come on really?
The way he used the word shocked was as if he did not know. Basically implying a great burst of feeling at the unknown.
At the end of the day he said what he said people are always harping that celebs should be more careful well yunho is no different.
this is the typical OT5fan speech lol
alkpp an other site should post this news
i comment about this on ALLKPOP…woah they attack me like nuts! I hope ALLKPOP post this there. This going to be EPIC counter attack. Lets tip ALLKPOP. I want JYJ haters head to the ground!
i have been trying to send this news to allkpop like crazy but i have a feeling allkpop won’t post
do you know how we can get it on omona
Get it on AllKpop first. Omona gets most of their stuff from there.
what’s omona?
@Upii
It’s a livejournal community for general kpop news. They post articles from other places mostly.
oh ok. i am convinced allkpop won’t post it. it really needs to be on allkpop
I’m a lurker there.
Omona = livejournal blog for all things k-pop. Almost equivalent to Allkpop but with less drama. A bit cracky. A bit serious. I personally find the opinions of the population there (save for a few individuals) more agreeable to my views than other places.
I also love their gifs. lol.
i know they have the most cracktastically hilarious posters eva
most omona DBSK5 goes to truetvxq and think JYJfiles a bad sites etc they even have mod post that warn people not to post stuff from JYJfiles and didnt accept anything from JYJfiles. Its not a surprised they didnt even know bout International petition. and yes the Homin biased are hardcore and always put JYJ down in every way they can. they condemn JYJ stans that read stuff from JYJfiles but for them to go to truetvxq is ok. SMH
omona mod posted that
buut you should see the post about the jyj fans injunction win
it was pure epic jyj GIF heaven?
maybe i miss these things because i dont lurk there on a daily basis
http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/6035426.html
^^ this
and
http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/6006870.html
this^^
its pretty pro jyj
but i noticed they didnt put up news about the petition *fishy*
I HOPE JYJ ALWAYS BE HAPPY:)
My first legit thought: Uh oh…someone in trouble :O~ I wonder if the Hotel’s are gonna lobby for it to be taken down?
i tried to find omona by google search, but it doesn’t show up. will you please share the link? 🙂 thanks for answering@telia and fleur
http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt
http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/
Yup no problem. Am I allowed to post links here though? Er, hopefully the admin won’t kill me!! Haha ^^;; To play it safe I’ll just give you the name.
It’s a livejournal community called ‘omonatheydidnt’.
Thank you ladies!
I hope some translates the Lawyer Park ChangJong consider the legal action against the JYJ TV show cancellation info soon. And the who ruined the wave article…google trans sucks >.>
Whoa
link?
maybe some kind bilingual soul will help us out
People keep rt-ing it so now I’m curious http://news.nate.com/view/20110303n22289
And the wave one:(I’m still n love with the newyork photo)
http://www.todaykorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=136642
There more about 3 voices going around to..I think just staff blog update though horrible at korean so I’ll wait
Park Chan Jong: http://news.nate.com/view/20110303n22289
Hallyu: http://www.todaykorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=136642
I have translated the latter article on the Korean Wave because it reflected the opinion of international fans heavily. It should be up on The JYJ Files or this site soon enough.
Thank You!!!!
The title alone made me want to read it.
what can i say dear jimmie………..grateful kokoko^^
And of course the news articles that were even remotely supportive of JYJ have “mysteriously” disappeared again. This is so wrong and creepy on so many levels..
PLEASE GUYS! Support our latest project at the JYJ Files!! It’s posted on this site too.
Imagine the results for JYJ if all the negative energy and emotion being poured out here were converted to positive energy and poured into supporting JYJ through this new project!! If not for JYJ, at least exonerate me for spending my butt up nights to perfect that template letter =_=;;
Ah! So it was you! Haha, thank you muchly for writing that perfect template letter. I read it and liked it ^^ Very well written.
I plan on sending out to everyone on the list but was planing on doing it later…its 4:13 am here and I wanna do it all at the same time. But I do think it would have been better, give the fact that some people tend to get lazy or don’t feel like putting in much effort, to do it kinda like a petition (for the news reports and all that at least) where you have a letter already written out and just collect the number of fans to go with it. It would have secured you ore people cause (cause all they’d have to do is sign their name; no work there). And the companies wouldn’t be getting basically the same email over and over. Then the fact that a lot of time emails are deleted as unimportant or thrown to the spam pile. Just my thoughts, but I do intend to participate because I think its important to get this to the media it will have big effect on things.
Thank you for your input Akria. We have thought about doing it that way but opted out in the end because there simply aren’t enough members on staff to accommodate that format. With the petition, we had the support of the Korean fandom on the technical aspects, but for this we’re (or rather the i-fandom) is on its own. We thought it best to let fans send the letter on an individual basis but we have suggested to our smaller, tighter affiliate sites and country-specific jyj sites to do a collective letter in the way you suggested. So all forms and formats are being adopted ^^. The important thing is that either way the message gets out.
Cheers!
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LMAO.. poor you, desperate much? I recommend you to stay away from us.. nice for your health. Oh, then again, you wont get another sin, since you wont bash anyone. dont forget to visit truetvxq and tell them the same. take care. 😉
Try harder, bb. You’re probably an anti-OT5 trying to get JYJ fans to hate other OT5 fans.
*to the left, to the left, haters to the left*
And if you really are OT5, do something productive instead of attacking other people for liking something different from you.
im sensitive here! it hurt me all the OT5 hate!1 kiahh, i love them 5, i know, i recognize a liar when i see it! and yes, my love for JYJ now is bigger than for homin, but hell, don’t hate us because we want them 5 again! is hard for us who have see them grow up together watch all this mess, and we just hope that in 3, 4, 10 years they can be friends again, and hear love in the ice, blolero etc again, i know that a lot of OT5 are being a pain in the ass, but not all of us are like that!! i just want this to end!! some of us are still in the negation part! my silly stupid dream of tvxq 5 always i fading out if homin keep hurting JYj like this! but still, let me keep this stupid dream of seeing them again as 5! please don’t hate us all just because some premature teenagers are being stupid! and yes yunho shame on you!!! you are being an ass! ( i feel like im mad with my ex boyfriend hehehe)JYJ keep it up!!!
sybelle: i’m sorry if we offended you. uhm, i think what fleur mean is, if mjjejeAbs is trying to make us hating ot5 fans because she/he is just wasting her/his time to comment as such in this jyj site, we’re not gonna fall for it. ^^
it doesn’t mean that we hate all ot5 fans. we’re just annoyed by some ot5 fans that comment something like ‘that’ in jyj site. ^^ peace.
Yuu-sach i understand your point!!in the end truth will prevail!! and JYJ don’t need to fight this war, is not worth it, we will fight for them!!
Go get ur live out there!!!
Hater always be hater…..
Lmao!!!u sound so mad…we are not Cassiopeia. We are jyj fans…
TVXQ5 is HISTORY!
a Beautiful history which i cherish
n locked in my heart forever…T_T
Now its JYJ ONE MORE TIME!
Mission Mission make it Go~~
ilovejyj.com is on its way!
*throws confetti*
and you SUCK! and for your info yes! some of us is not Cassiopeia. we just JYJers. Got problem with that?
Admin admin where are you?
There’s a mentally retarted person here…
Sometimes I wonder why all the haters like to use JJ’s name in their nick?
It’s a HUGE insult to JJ and …
Also to their own idol because they must have felt really ashamed to admit idolizing him/them that they don’t even dare use their names.
yoohoo??? what site are u on again troll???
ohhhhhhhhhh… r u ok!!!LOL.RELAXXXXXXX,TAKE IT EASY OT5 poor u…..huh…..don’t like it…don’t buy it then
Yeah, it’s so fabulous to use caps and ungrammatical language. I don’t know what to call myself as a fan but I am capable of logical reasoning and I’m not an anti, i don’t go to HoMin sites and shout at people.
I am not a Cassie, I was once a TVXQ5 fan and presently a JYJfan. I have a high regard to all sane, open-minded, non-judgmental Cassies just as JYJ loves Cassies very much. From how you behave on this JYJ fan site, I know you don’t represent the true Cassiopeians, and I’m sure they will be ashamed to call you as one of them.
@mjjejeAbs
…………???
u r just so freaking LOL!!
try harder baby cause u r totally on the WRONG site!
hahahahahaahahahahahaha…
this makes me laugh harder than junsu’s kenyan! ( it’s a lie..opps! but still..)
and yes baby,we are not cassie. LMFAO
I’ve lost total respect for Yunho. Again. He’s so dumb and dishonest. He should be called U-Don’t-Know…
okay Yunho don’t worry……….I dont trust you in the very beginning so….ahahaha
noo! pls don’t say something like that to Yunho!
i’m pretty sure that what he said is something that been made up by SM itself! i don’t know but i have that kind of feeling. because SM is the jerk in here when it comes to JYJ n HoMin.
i just won’t believe it if it’s really from Yunho’s heart for saying such a thing. i’m pretty sure that SM is the one who made up those sentence! i will not going to believe that it really came from Yunho’s heart n mind.
I will always keep the faith and will always keep waiting for them.
ure free to do that. i hope ur heart can take more of this drama though…
peace out~!
sound familiar…
but he doesn’t have the balls to stand against it if its wrong.. if SM tells him to jump off the clip will he do so too?? even if it’s not what truly is in his heart??
A man is a man… and a real man has to face the consequences of his action.. and if his conflicting stories means losing several fans’ respect then he has to lived by that decision as JYJ lived by theirs and it means that there will be haters and antis and cockblockers and etc..
did u see their faces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u’ll figure why we keep sayin’ this ,truth hurt huh… I LOST MY RESPECT FOR THEM & FOR SUM OF SME PUPPETS[IDOLS] AFTER ATTACKIN’ OUR SU BOY ….enough with this BS…ppl…….homin…what a pathetic #!@$#!
jyj cassies&bigeast&Icassies&NW JYJFAM….KEEP YR HEADS UP…..
Well it came from his mouth at least…
We cannot ascertain whether the heart and mind (duh~) also follows his mouth but we know he do not mind implying that his brothers are liars !!!!!!!!!!
And I wonder how YOU can check that either….
This kind of rhetoric is pretty insulting to a 25 year old man. You are saying that he has no free will? I know SM is powerful and all that but to follow orders, no questions asked? SM has to give him something that he think is worth giving up his rights to his own opinions(if he has a different opinion).
Poor Yunho..
they really dont have a heart,
They really dont have a mind
All being control by SM
LOL!!! Their nose is getting longer..
@Mika
knock knock knock!!
please..just wake up already from ur
La La Land…but then, hope u r happy with ur choice. or just simply wake up to the reality!!
It’s even worse if SM made up these sentences and “forced” him to say them. It means that he chose to stay in a company which doesn’t allow him to say what he truly thinks/wants to say, and that he doesn’t have a mind of his own…So are you saying Yunho is SM’s puppet ?
Liar…liar…pants on fire..
uknow already lost his soul,his conscience and he just lost respect from us..i wonder how he’ll find all this back because since dbsk’s day, jae is there for him whenever he lost something..yunho,do you know that uknownothing about yourself anymore..dbsk was a good memory for us,please don’t ruin it…
we’ll be trending #ilovejyj at 8pm KST to show our love for jyj, and to celebrate the opening of ilovejyj.com ♥
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SEE YA THERE….FIGHTING♥♥♥♥♥♥
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This is so embrarassing ever.
I mean it’s okay for them to mention JYJ and lawsuit but they have to be smart enough to make sure that what they say is absolutely true!
We are now trending #ilovejyj on Twitter!! Everyone please participate (especially since I heard the antis are trying to counter-tweet something else)!! #ilovejyj and Operation American Dream FIGHTING~~!!!!!! ^0^
I think it was #dbsk5forever or something like that they were planning on twitting…kinda rude considering the day. kinda hard to believe people don’t know what today is…
someone has to burst that all5 bubble.. so they could see the bigger picture..
I personally have no problem with tvxq5 fans. Thats what they like,then it’s just what they like. The ones I have a problem with is the ones who say “I hope jyj fail so dbsk will be 5 again.” Or “if jyj win then theres no more dbsk5 T.T”
–I don’t like that.
Thats really not looking at the big picture and selfish as h*ll
I agree! Can’t they trend that on another day? I would even help trend it if it was another day.
I doubt minds will change.
Just take it as a challenge, it just means that jyj fans have to work a little bit harder to make sure ilovejyj is number one.
Plus I don’t really think a lot of people is in the dbsk5forever mood…
I don’t want to disrepect Yunho because of my love for JYJ but I can’t help it. Yunho used to be a great leader, USED TO BE! He’s changed a lot and not for the better. I expected Min to be angry but I expected better of Yunho. I am disappointed in him!
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Just because people at omona are assuming thats what he meant does mean we have to do the same thing lol.
And if you don’t the site…leave…
Anyone who doesn’t have the same opinion as you is wrong? Now that’s really immature.
i wouldnt talk sweet pea, the majority of us arent even casseiopia AND i have seen worse on homin sites, how about you go there and judge them first, we arent really haters we just hate how they think they can fool fans and everyone has the right to say what they want. and you seem to know like you know the situation dont be a hypocrite, ive tried to keep my cool throughtout these articles but i cant stay quiet anymore like many have said if you dont like this site dont come here i cant stand homin sites so i dont even go near them. keave everyone here to their own business.
LOL, I can see you have just as much class as we do ^_^ What you’re “getting” from this post and how I’m “interpreting” it is obviously two different things! If you can’t handle my “thinking” then you can leave. No one is forcing you to read this or to even comment. Even 12 year olds know that much 😀
Oh hun, maybe you should take your own suggestion. Have some class and hightail out of this site instead of staying here to reply to “a bunch of 12 year olds.”
Oh darling, don’t hold omona in such a high regard, as fun and cracky that site is I wouldn’t go there to get a wise input.
Btw fan opinion =/= fact. Get it right oh ‘classy one’ ^_^ and fyi, read all the comments, don’t generalize, not everyone is bashing. And just to be fair, go to homin sites too and tell them to be classy as well. ❤
@Sarah Exactly! Omona is just for harmless fun. This is the site where they went on JYJFiles articles (back when it was allowed to be posted) just to write ‘tl;dr lololol’ =_=
No offense but you seriously think omona is the definition of class? OH…
Omona and class? Oh man, lol. It’s ONTD but for the Kpop mass.. with less fun and witty people.
I seriously dont know what is the problem with some people. Retarded or what?
May I repeat if they cannot read properly:
THIS IS A JYJ FANSITE!!!
Why are all these idiots coming in to seek attention instead of going to a site to support their bias?
SMH~
shoo shoo shoo, go away.
ikr~~
is it so hard to understand that
this is JYJ site in the first place..
just save your comments to JYJ fans in TVXQ5 site..
that’s more appropriate..
you can preach there!!
when you enter this site..
please change your mindset that we just don’t give a damn about HM!~
and yet they still dont get
OH WELL
im in a happy mood cuz our boys got some seriously love from the internet radio station and these hater aint bringin me down!!
So are you saying i must love homin unconditionally? You cant tell us to love them.. Hm are grown up man.. They choose their path and so do we.. We are jyj family here!!! This site created for jyj and jyjlovers! If you don’t like it then just go check your ot5 site!
antis go away!!!!!this JYJ fanside okkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!
I like going to this site because frankly many sites of tvxq fandom in general don’t bother to dig deeper into the ‘wound’ info like this site. And many fans from this site were cool in terms of handling ‘wound open’ issues in fandom (more vocally).
But for real, lately quite a number of you guys here have gone overboard with ‘this is jyj site’ or ‘otp5 fans are delusional’, ‘other fansites are hateful/shameful’ excuses or alike. You can be aggressive with class – like agressively promote jyj-related projects. Or see JYJfiles site? Even major k-pop fansites like omonatheydidnt, allkpop, soompi or alike refuse to post their contents (due to ‘biased opinion’ or so they said), general kpop fans still can’t deny how very logical and solid their arguments are in their posts (and they’ve got solid backups to boot), and I dare to say no counter-back attack comments from ‘anti’ or ‘stans from other side’ so far is sufficient enough to stir up their points (thanks, I check omonatheydidn’t comments and yes, even comments there are just to prove omonatheydidnt is like allkpop, with different verion – for high school girls). That’s what I meant by ‘agressively with class’.
I’m nothing to you guys here, and this is completely up to you. But just wanna say that ‘freedom to say’ goes both ways, venting out is nothing wrong; yet obviously it’s always good to be reminded that after all, help jyj in long term should be your focus instead of venting out on every damn piece of homin news.
As to this update and homin’s statements in that guru show, well, if you consider homin as just another human being with feelings, then it’s understandable that they said those things in that show, at least to me. But indeed, the last point for that father’s letter is telling me yunho and his father are contradicting each other.
At the end of the day, personally, i feel bitterness from this post’s comments and homin is still having appearances, whether it’s unfair or not, on media outlet. But this feeling of mine lasts only for 10 minutes before i move on to other issues in life, like waiting for how ilovejyj.com station will go from now on. *shrug*
you know people can vent and help jyj at the same time…it was already done today.
And I don’t see anyone here tell people they can’t say anything, instead they say…tell homin sites the same thing and they claim that they’re tired of so called tvxq5 fans coming to a jyj site and telling them they should like all and yada yada ya.
And people don’t talk about ALL homin info (this is a jyj site) they only talk about the stuff where jyj are mention usually cause jyj is made in some way to look bad.
I can understand your post but at the end of the day this is a jyj site…people are gonna vent and jyj fans get the most done for their artist…so yeah I think we’re further ahead of the crowd.
Your comment can be posted at every site said to every person…because in the end we’re all the same and that aint gonna change.
gosh I forgot I’m I’m on my mom’s computer so it comes up as her name >.> (thats what I get for letting her be a jyj fan)
-Akria
We can stay cool, but staying cool forever as we constantly get attacked and preached, well, there’s a limit to everything. Like you said, we were cool, and tried not to talk about homin in a bad way. But if ppl like OTP5 and Hotel girls keep coming here to attack us on “our land”, isn’t that asking for a beating here? Sure, I believe everyone has their rights to believe what they want to believe in, but don’t force your beliefs onto others. And as much as many of us here used to be OTP5 fans, it doesn’t mean that we can turn a blind eye to what goes on and what’s being said. If it’s wrong, we’ll say that it’s wrong. Who are you to criticize us on our site? And unfortunately, it’s not that we want to criticize on every damn piece of homin news, but it’s because JYJ is being attacked by these “precious homin news” so how can we not retaliate as fans? Why do you even question such obvious facts?
amen!
“At the end of the day, personally, i feel bitterness from this post’s comments and homin is still having appearances”
Pardon my lack of understanding of the english language, but what the heck are you talkin about?????
If you meant bitterness about HM being able to appear in korean tv and JYJ cannot, then HELL YES!!!
What we want is a fair fight!
You don’t take advantage of the fact that the other party cannot even make their appearance on shows to defend themselves!
If SM and HM have the guts, face JYJ in the face and have a fair fight!!
Not cockblock JYJ and then sent your puppets in to be your spokesperson playing the victims cards!
Stop being delusional!
What we JYJ fans need is a nice place for us to discuss and have talks amongst our FAMILY without intruders coming in to preach!
No one forces people like you to come in and read things you don’t like to read.
Go to an OT5 site or HM site.
Don’t make your life and our lives difficult!
I agree with you, this blog is a place only for those who share the same feeling of love, sympathy and loyalty to JYJ, because they have managed to win for his brave conduct, sincere and have shown as they are from the beginning and everything at all times been concerned about his fans, what they did in NY and other priceless and is very deserving ellos.Ahora I think this site is like a family, sometimes even visitors and other guests, even though family members say they feel free to act and talk, guests and visitors should be respectful of norms and rules of conduct in the family, and above all should know their place in it, if they are unhappy about something simply must abandon the traditional family in a good way and taking their very personal impression if it is to be tolerantes.Mientras anyone speaks against JYJ us not talk about more, because we can not remain silent while someone insults and abuse to our beloved children, we simply can not tolerate it, because the truth even if it hurts a lot, is on our side and there is strong evidence of this.
People are so crazy and retarded for keep coming to this website and attacking JYJ and JYJ’s fans. Even when I’m on allkpop reading all the comments from ppl who actually believe homin “had no choice” or “still waiting for JYJ to return to SM so they can be 5 again” or “the JYJ files are spreading bad rumors about homin”, as upset as I was, I still held back and not comment because it’s a homin’s article, with homin fans in there, and i shouldn’t really have anything to say to them since that’s their beliefs. So WHY in the world are they coming here to attack us? Soon, they’ll get the war they always wanted, and by then, it’ll really be too late for them to regret it if they don’t stop that now!
Beats me either.
What are them to come here and teach us what to do Eh?
That’s what I don’t get. I just want a peaceful life with seeing my JYJ everyday on the news, and performing on shows. That’s already something difficult to achieve these days, despite our efforts, and I’m frustrated enough as it is. Then these people now come lurking in asking for a fight, I mean, seriously?!? They came at the perfect time for me!!!
Lol^^ kitty.
Scratch them!!!
LOL MEOW!! GRRR!!! Well, I’ll just throw my cat at them and let her do the attack. That’s more than enough damage LOL
lmao.
I never imagine yunho to be this stupid. like, seriously.
btw, what is NATE? is that a prominent portal/news web in South Korea?
I know some JYJ fans are still OT5 fans and I understand how much you want to see them five again but please understand that not all people share the same sentiment. So imposing some fans to support them as five in this JYJ site is somehow unnecessary and unacceptable. This site is clearly created to support JYJ and JYJ alone.
JYJ and us fans have been bashed so many times and we don’t say anything. We kept our calm, we stayed quiet. It’s in sites like this that we are able to express how and what we feel. I can’t blame others if they overreact at some comments because we (JYJ, HM, and OT5) all do that all the time. It’s just that this site is our haven. This is where we feel respected.
Haaaaaa. Things are heating up here!
oh yunho … im so … so … wow u r not my allpowerfull leader shii
BURNT!!!!!!
if you’re going to lie, be smart about it; if not, then dont even bother
see the result of bad lying?
Just wondering: is the original source of this article still up, or has it been taken down?
Thats mafia work seriously =_=
I accepted long time ago that HoMin choose to stay with SM.
But I never expected them to be that shallow to say all those things (starting from geese interview, now distorted the truth on TV).
Everytime they mentioned JYJ, my respect for them sink YARDS lower.
Fans always praised Yunho and Changmin for having most high IQs among the 5 members. But as people also said, high IQs doesn’t mean you have high EQs too, LOL. So SM and HoMin having same low EQs lol:
A person with Low EQ:
* Doesn’t take responsibilities for his feelings; but blames you or others for them.
* Can’t put together three word sentences starting with “I feel…”
* Can’t tell you why she feels the way she does, or can’t do it without blaming someone else.
* Attacks, blames, commands, criticizes, interrupts, invalidates, lectures, advises and judges you and others.
* Tries to analyze you, for example when you express your feelings.
* Often begins sentences with “I think you…”
* Sends “you messages” disgused as “I feel messages” For example, “I feel like you ….”
* Lays guilt trips on you.
* Withholds information about or lies about his feelings. (Emotional dishonesty)
You can read more here signs of SM and HoMin having low EQs here and you have to agreed with me: http://eqi.org/signs.htm
LOLOLOL Most of those examples sound just like Homin especiallu
* Attacks, blames, commands, criticizes, interrupts, invalidates, lectures, advises and judges you and others.
what Changmin has been doing this whole time >.>
Its sad that someone with such a High IQ(Yunho 140+) can have such little common sense. He really cant see how much SMent is playing him. He is allowing himself to be a person who deceives, someone who watches while their friends are stabbed in the back and cleans the knife afterwards. In the end, he’s really going to regret all that he’s done. I just want to know WHY! What are you getting? what are you afraid of Yunho? What is holding you back?
Wow, that really fits… sadly.
Yunho….. im not mad but im disappointed….. Im not disappointed in you but im disappointed by the path you took…..
If there was a dark tunnel and a shiny road which would you pick?
You picked the easy road Yunho….. the shiny road that suddenly turned into a monster and not now but maybe later as you keep going, do you feel like regretting it?
You guys picked the dark tunnel Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yoochun….. I know you guys miss the other two very much because you all agreed to leave sment….. I know it must hurt a lot now that it was suppose to be five people at the court….. not three….. You knew that it was going to be a difficult time but you kept going. it was suppose to be five of you who left sment and even the name tvxq to live on a farm together. but….. why did it not happen?
I think because they are worried because of the hard work. I remember it being said by a shinwa member that they all had discussed it with him previously. I think that yunho and changmin must worry about their careers and family members because sm could block them from entertainment. So, even though I wanted to support both sides regardless if they are in differnent companies but the fact that i am being lied to I feel that it is very disrepectful.
As I already said: Lies, lies, lies. Sad, sad, sad.
This is the reason ,why I love JYJ more and more each day,I ‘m wanna cry everytime I watch this FANCAM & listening to this song, they’re so …
TvxqPowerfulGodsO
I cried so much… and I rewatched it over and over again. I want it to remind me that it’s because I love them so much that I should never treat them like that. No matter how much I love them, to put them in such danger and all the pushing, my heart hurts to see that happen
I’m crying with you…
omg that was scary 😦 How many times have they had to go through that? If it were me , I would have cried by the time I got out. Junsu totally disappeared at the end and at one point I thought Chun and Jae were being dragged 😦
Please fans stop doing this, its dangerous for everyone. I felt bad for the women in blue as well, she got dragged pretty often.
“Just gonna stand there and hear me cry…” 😦 Yunjae lol
“but that’s alright because I love the way you lie ..I can’t tell you what it really is,I can only tell you what it feels like & right now there’s a steel knife in my windpipe I can’t breath but I still fight while I can fight…”
I’m thinking just like you and Juno ,JJ ‘s talking to uknowho…
this is worse its Su all by himself
it’s so scary …..I bet that everytime they have to go to the airport ,they’re thinking about they’re going to a battlefield ….Their life is so hard,and that’s why we love them ,right ,but not in that way,for sure ,:)
O_O
thats alot of fans!
nothing new was said..we knew already from the start these would come from their mouths..as much as i hate to say this but it was obviously lying and denial..the moment when they chose to stayed this is what they have to do..following SME footsteps and go against JYJ..simple as that..
W NINE9 FALLEN LEAVES somehow i think was written for nothing..T^T
No they weren’t written for nothing. They said what they needed to say. If the words and meanings didn’t reach the hearts and minds of HoMin, they did reach the hearts and minds of their fans. That is why WE are where WE are, here with THEM.
my apologize T^T i just feel reluctant and disappointed and totally forgot about “WE”..thanks for reminded me ^^
Not a problem. This is indeed a very emotional time. But it’s going to be this way for quite some while. Just go with the flow of accepting that. You’ll recharge a lot sooner that way. 🙂
YH gets imbued with “the” SME mindset…. sad.
when i first read this,i’m really crying…why is everyone blame HoMin here??we are NOBODY to judge them..they are tvxq,i am sure they really know the truth..we,as fans,just have to keep on supporting them as long as they are TVXQ and JYJ..no need to blame anyone whether it is jyj or homin…don’t you remember this,
ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH!!!!
“why is everyone blame HoMin here??we are NOBODY to judge them..they are tvxq,i am sure they really know the truth…”
when I was growing up, my parents told me never lie, it is bad, you get scolded for doing bad things. so for opening their mouth stating such obvious lies, this get’s reactions from people, their so called fans and fans of JYJ to react and search for the truth. To bad the truth is too far the same as to their statement, well in fact the opposite.
If there is a misdeed, it should be corrected as soon as possible before it becomes bigger. If you’ll just have it slide for the reason that you love them unconditionally, missy, you’re doing a grave mistake, you’ll just be producing misguided grown-up who will become headaches to society. read how to raise a child, I hope it would enlighten you why such as this is happening.
what do you mean we are nobody? we, the fans that they are trying to manipulate in believing their story. To bad not all fans are like you who will openly believe to anything they say without doing any research if it is true or not.
and yeah, even I not a TVXQ5 fan “always keep the faith” that one day they will stand together in one stage. but not to the extent I will close my eyes and turn my back to the wrong doings that are being done.
All I could say is, grow up, be open minded to all the evidence that are coming out, analyze things before giving your opinion.
Uhm maybe it’s best for some of the OT5 fans that lurk here to not push themselves too hard. Seriously, you are not winning any votes, but causing conflicts between the two sides and I KNOW how much you hate ~conflict
@masi and everyone else, you all had given more than sufficient responds…it’s up to them to backtrack this whole entire saga and stop being cray cray.
@JYJYC ,Hello,you can think whatever you want ,and love whoever you want…We love JYJ ,there are plenty of reasons why we love them ,but the first important thing is we believe in JYJ ,by everything we can see in our all eyes about the truth around the lawsuit …We’ve got proofs,we looked at the facts,and we choose to support JYJ ,that’s our choice,dear.We’re their fans,we’re family ,stop saying “we are nobody”…We love TVXQ”THE 5”,not TVXQ with only HM,and we don’t love HM ,because they’re liar …Believe it or not ,it’s up to you ,but stop asking us AKTF ,when HM ‘re brainwashed and already choosing a different path with their brothers.
when i first read this,i’m really crying…why is everyone blame HoMin here??..they are tvxq,i am sure they really know the truth..we,as fans,just have to keep on supporting them as long as they are TVXQ and JYJ..no need to blame anyone whether it is jyj or homin…don’t you remember this,
ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH!!!!
i think if your read the this post or any of the many many many many comments that Ot5ers have made and the many many many answers we have given
i think you know that we have our reasons for criticizing yunho. (again read above post)
We have never asked you to hate homin
we blame homin because they lied and its hurting jyj ….very simple.
but if you choose to love homin continue to do so
You cannot invalidate a fact based on naivete or wishful thinking. That is where jyj fans and ot5ers differ.
Good luck to you, when you come here to JYJ3 i hope you love jyj with us.
@JYJYC
“they are tvxq,i am sure they really know the truth”
If they really know the truth as you say, then why are they flat out lying? You can’t have it both ways. As I mentioned above earlier…SME are bloodsuckers. HoMin decided to stay with the company.
When they go out in public and make statements like this, they become company spokespersons. This makes them fair game. They are grown men, not children. Although, I have been around a whole bunch 2 year olds who know how to say the word no. They actually know what it measns, and say it very well.
@JYJYC ,Hello,you can think whatever you want ,and love whoever you want…We love JYJ ,there are plenty of reasons why we love them ,but the first important thing is we believe in JYJ ,by everything we can see in our all eyes about the truth around the lawsuit …We’ve got proofs,we looked at the facts,and we choose to support JYJ ,that’s our choice,dear.We’re their fans,we’re family ,stop saying “we are nobody”…We love TVXQ”THE 5″,not TVXQ with only HM,and we don’t love HM ,because they’re liar …Believe it or not ,it’s up to you ,but stop asking us AKTF ,when HM ‘re brainwashed and already choosing a different path with their brothers.
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be nice 😛
🙂 we are nice… it’s just our motherly & sisterly instinct comes out. 🙂
Yes be nice 🙂
Those are sensitive people
And I guess they like to lurk around JYJ sites for we are full of LUVE~~~
They can’t feel it on the other side.
Hello~~~ We welcome anyone who really loves and support JYJ.
just tired of these fans….and tired to be nice sometimes ^^
like masi, please do some research more and use ‘AKTF’ wisely and appropirately…
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To JYJ Family/stans: I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. MUCH GRATITUDE FOR YOU GUYS FOR STANDING UP FOR OUR JYJ. AND YOU GUYS COMMENTS REALLY BRIGHTEN MY SPIRIT IF NOT A LITTLE A WHOLE LOT.
This article just tore my heart apart.. and now it’s waiting to heal..
MAN i need more friends like you guys… when i feel down.
if you guys (JYJ stans) don’t mind… can be friends on fb or twitter or smthg.
im like surrounding b OT5 .. HM stans rite now (im just not in the mood anymore.)
THX:)
You can come as often as you like. No need to surround yourself with negativity, it is not good for the soul.
Here eveyone knows why they are here, no confusion. We laugh, we cry, we yell, we scream, we have fun. But most of all we have pride in our love and support for each other, and Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. It’s as simple as that. 🙂
come here offen bb! we can share our feeling and love!i have to tell you, alot ppl here very lovely and warn heart!!!!
@ButterfliesAreFree & @anva:
Thankyou so much chingus for you guys warm welcome! I’m so happy to feel at home…It means a lot to me^^ Yes, i will sure come here often (everyday) to soothe my soul with JYJ love and feel the neverending love from JYJ family! This is truly the place where i want to be…no doubt.
welcome to The JYJ Family bb~! ^^ *hugs*
@samvill:
ty dear^^ *hugs*
I honestly can’t bring myself to hate HoMin because I have history with DBSK as 5. But I don’t respect HoMin anymore. They’ve gone even lower than I thought they could. I’m not going to devote any more energy wishing they would wake up/change/move on/do something else; if they have a change of heart and attitude in the future, maybe I’ll pay attention again. For now, all the energy I had for DBSK goes to JYJ. I still cherish DBSK5 memories and will not let SM’s evil or HoMin’s whothehellareyouness rob me of those.
can’t you people understand what yunho said? understand the sentence properly, yunho did not know that the 3 HAD already filed the lawsuit! Yunho and Changmin already know about the lawsuit but they did not know that they already FILED it on whatever day that was! get it?
well,u guys,as a jyj fans,,yess..u must support n protect ur beloved oppas..that’s every fans must do to the people they support.but,post this article to make other sides looks bad without no strong evidence is completely unacceptable.please,think carefully,analyze carefully before u assume on something. i agree with mary on,understand the sentence properly.u just see the words that homin “don’t know”..what is they dont’ know???r u fully understand the sentence?? no..u just go making ur own assumptions and tell the world yunho and changmin are liar! please respect homin too.i know there’s some homin stans that bashing urs.i will tell the exaxt same thing to those people if they just talk about groundless facts…so,instead of telling u to stop bashing others..please look at ur own fandom. u still continue living in hate,,u r not good.but to convince innocent people to hate the person that u hate,,it;s worst!