The March 15th Hearing was meant to be the final hearing, but on this hearing SM requested an executive at SM Japan as yet another witness. Therefore there will be yet another Hearing on April 19th, 2pm KST. One wishes that SM would please request these witnesses ahead of time.
The below is a cohesive account of the March 15th Hearing.
The Reason Why JYJ Had No Choice but to Sue
Posted by Seo Yoonah-pierrot, @followyas and @babyblue
Original source: Naver Mongeul Mongeul blog
The March 15 SM v. JYJ Hearing
1. The alleged reason why the [Dong Bang Shin Ki’s] members’ earnings were so little was that everything was attributed as overhead expenses. It was revealed today that what SM counted as overhead expenses included such comically ridiculous items as snacks, daily expenses of SM executives and staff, parking fees, cold medicine, meals, entertainers’ transportation (ie, plane, car), rent, concert agents’ costs, various taxes and expenses that should have obviously been covered and borne by SM.
2. SM claimed that in 2008, of the 14.7 billion won (roughly 14.7 million USD) in royalties earned that year only 1 billion won (roughly 1 million USD) came from Dong Bang Shin Ki, and the rest came from CSJH, BoA, the Trax and Koh Ara [T/N: A Korean actress under SM]. Those who know of Dong Bang Shin Ki’s popularity and selling power in Japan and abroad know how baseless this claim is. (The judge asked if Koh Ara really brought in more revenue than Dong Bang Shin Ki, at which SM’s side could not respond). At this point, many in the courtroom even burst out laughing.
3. In 2008, SM transferred the required 10% of digital download sales [to Dong Bang Shin Ki] but in 2009 didn’t even bother to do so.
4. The total earnings from the world tour amounted to 3.4 billion won (roughly 3.4 million USD), but of the amount that was supposed to go to the Dong Bang Shin Ki members, [SM] subtracted 900 million won (roughly 900,000 USD) as agents’ fees.
5. The money that was handed out as advances was later deducted as personal taxes. If only [SM] had done their accounting properly there would have been no need to pay such taxes on these advances.
6. The [Dong Bang Shin Ki] members were made to pay for the agents’ fees for their concerts abroad, music videos and even choreography expenses.
7. Even given the sales of Mirotic accounted at 480,000 units, [SM] was supposed to pay [the members] 50 million won (roughly 50,000 USD) but didn’t for the reason that the next album hadn’t come out yet.
8. In 2004, [the Dong Bang Shin Ki members] were accounted the 3-4 months’ worth of profits for the single “Hug”, but the accounting records reveal that after that they received nothing on the sale of their albums.
Ultimately, the [Dong Bang Shin Ki] members were burdened with all the costs.
So what exactly is SM insisting it invested? [T/N: the author is implying that SM’s justification that the financial arrangements in DBSK’s contract were necessary to recover investment costs is in fact one big, elaborate lie/fraud. All the major investments were made by the DBSK members; the DBSK members were in fact forced to invest in the company that supposedly invested in them]
What kind of calculation method is this?
The more they are active, the more they lose money…how is there anyone that thinks this makes any sense?
If this is how much SM screws around in court, one wonders how much more severe is their screwing around in real life.
All the information revealed at the hearing is the result of SM having tailored and bent the facts in their favour, and yet it still renders one appalled. One wonders how much more shocking the uncensored version is.
And now, the judgment that was originally due out today has been extended once more to a fourth hearing thanks to SM’s latest claims/antics.
But everyone, be aware of the truth.
Sources: @followyas, @babyblue1225
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this is beyond ridiculous. i don’t even know what to say.
God bless our boys. leaving SM is the best decision they have ever made.
agree… just when i thought SM couldn’t get anymore ridiculous…
Interesting…. to say the whole thing is ridiculous is an understatement
Any idea of how the public/ media, is reacting to this?
agree!!!!
I also really wanna know what the public is reacting to this? I really want everyone to be able to see how horrible SM are to them!!! Are they like this to all of their artists of just TVXQ?!?! ‘Cause now I feel sorry for all those working under them…
C’mon, paying the daily expenses of SM executives staff? was it only burdened on TVXQ then? They have so many artists, surely they should divide it by the TOTAL number of artists that they have if they have to be fair or…hng or
Koh Ara earning more than TVXQ?! I bet its more like the earnings of BoA, The Trax, CSJH and Koh Ara combined don’t even match half of what TVXQ earned in Japan. (Okay, maybe half is a bit of an overstatement, but surely from all the fan goods, their albums sales and concerts, and TV appearances it counts for A LOT of money…. C’MON)
say more…:) but i don’t understand for everythings…but I alway support
say more 😐 but i don’t understand …i always support for everythings ..
..i just dont understand why SM always want to extended,, when every time they extended it,, the more stupid they come???
simple. they are just wayyyy coward, too scared of JYJ, imagine if JYJ win. *AMEN!!* Big shame on SM, oh, did I mention about their stock at the future, LMAO..
Sm,
3 words,
GO AND DIE.
Freaking liars, if I visit Korea one day I definitely bring a dog to pee at your stupid building!!!!!
LOL
OMG!! this is just ruthless!!! JYJ deserve better and for TVXQ to pay for everything, it seems like it, is just BS!!! IDK what Homin’s reasons are but… with this, how can they stay… After all the shit JYJ been through and us worrying about Junsu when he was in japan and the diasterious event that occurred, I felt, as long as JYJ is happy and healthy it’s ok if TVXQ is not 5 anymore.. i just hope one day they talk and are friends again..
But this hearing, SM are a joke, all those lame excuses.. coming from a so called “rich, top-notch, and powerful” company is just laughable; they have no morals about what human beings and work are supposed to be like. This is plain taking advantage of TVXQ!!!
I cant stand this BS anymore. They really should end this laughable lawsuit and announce that JYJ won cus its getting to stupid on SM’s part!!! It’s embarrassing listening to all this excuse.
JYJ Fighting!!! Midhuyo!!!
I really don’t know why the court keeps giving SME more time to drag the case? Shouldn’t there be a limit to how many times a person can ask for more time? The drag just helps pull JYJ’s career down. JYJ need better song writters and song producers to make a proper comeback in Korea. But who is gonna be stupid enough to help them when tey don’t know when the lawsuit is gonna end. And with time JYJ might lose their Fans because not every fan is strong enough to keep up with their many ending problems. I hope the judge has not been bought. Otherwise how can SME’s side present such ridiculous claims in court and still get away with it, plus gets more time to jerk JYJ’s career aroung?
“unending problems”
The judge should have been more strict. He should have given strong warning to SM not to stall the court. Sejong should have asked this to the judge.
Well, the more they drag, however sad, Sejong gains too.
The relieving part of this is that, JYJ can still somewhat promote in other countries. I am hoping they do an ad in Thailand-with that Chang co.
Also KBS has been really good, considering everything.
I don’t think things will change drastically when the lawsuit ends. 😦 Broadcasting stations will be still dependant on SM’s artists (although in reality it’s SM who’s dependant on broadcasting stations, they just didn’t realise it yet for some unknown reason… ) so if they want SuJu and SNSD in their shows, there will be no JYJ… 😦
Alas, such existence of conformity and cowardice continues…
But JYJ has strong, passionate, and committed fans. There is a unifying factor that goes beyond their music: the fight for justice. I speculate that this is what keeps the fanbase so resilient and unfragmented. As long as the fans remain, JYJ will never fade, even if they may not appear in broadcasting stations.
Cheer up vik720! *hugs*
@Realy?Love?
I know it’s frustrating, and can lead one to assume ‘the judge can be bought’. But think back to the last decision just handed down. SME was pretty much handed their own heads on a silver platter. Besides, this is a 3 judge panel hearing this case. I doubt they are going to risk anything that mind blowing. Civil cases just take longer than criminal ones. It’s a pain, but a necessary one.
its so frustrating but I think the judge is letting them so that when he hands in the verdict it’ll be proved beyond reasonable doubt and also make it very hard for SM to appeal. SM’s appeal will only be granted if there’s new evidence proving the judge wrong so if he can get all the documents plausible then SM won’t stand a chance to appeal and also it’ll make the compensation fee larger. Compensation fee for all the wages they weren’t paid,unfair contract, dragging the case, cock-blocking the boys etc.
Yup, when you have exhausted all your opportunities to make your case, there is precious little to appeal. Soooooooooo….YOU LOSE!
speechless =.=”
reading~!
OH-KAY!
First off, who in hell would believe that CSJH, BoA, the Trax and Goh freaking Ara would earn more than TVXQ in the past years when they are not even known by most K-pop fans because most of them began to take interest in the Hallyu Wave because of TVXQ?
C’mon now!
SME should stop making these stupid LIES if they don’t want their asses burnt even more in the future. They are making the court, the public and us fans seem stupid if they think we would believe the little stories they are coming up with!
I KNOW RIGHT? okay so then if TVXQ made “LESS” than those other fucking artists then why the FUCK is sment so scared of “lettin’ them go” when their profits to them dont matter because didnt they say that they made “LESS” than other artists? Fuck You. and why the FUCK is sment and avex still selling their fucking albums since they make so “LITTLE” HM? THERES A BIG LIAR HERE! fucking dumb shit. when i grow up and this lawsuit is still going on im seriously gana be a lawyer and fly to south korea and kick their asses and say all these lies sment is coming up with. DUH THERES A FUCKING HUGE EVIDENCE? WHY ARE YOU DENYING IT?
oh and when i said dumb shit and fuck you i meant it towards sment and avex eheheheh xD
this is ridiculous! I thought today is celebrating day =( seriously JYJ are human being, not your own private toy sm! let it go! in the end, justice will win! when JYJ win, it will become HISTORY because they have been through shits. JYJ fighting! Fans never lose hope! the ones who are more suffer is JYJ, all we got to do is keep strong and support!! show that whory dog company that they can’t mess with JYJ because we get JYJ’s back!!!
OK so according to spn edaily :
“The next trial will be held on April 19th at the same location and the Courts are planning to hold an examination on another witness, Nam So Young, the CEO of SM Japan who was in charge of TVXQ’s Japanese activities.”
and SM once again won’t bring the witnesses because of yet another stupid reason, and there will be another hearing…. I’m SO angry >_<
SME:”Uhm, Your Honor, Nam So Young will not be able to appear due to erm… stomach pain…”
Judge: “…”
JYJ lawyers: “…”
adding:
[April hearing]
SM: “Im sorry,your honor..since he’s in Japan last month..umm..u know..yea..we couldn’t contact this person..
….
Dude… Seriously? Snacks? Meals? Cold Medicine? Parking Fee? WHAT THE F*CK ARE THOSE???
*excuse my language*
I get it that SM need to make profit…I mean, which company doesn’t???
But, this is BEYOND ridiculous!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think any Pop/rock star in America who get one-third of DBSK schedule and spend twice as much as DBSK can be a millionaire in no time…
Look at JYJ now…
I guarantee you that they are now making more money compare to when they were still under SM grasp…
And their schedules are nowhere near DBSK schedule back then…
This surely speaks something, doesn’t it?
Gosh…sometimes I wonder why HoMin chose to stay…Not hating..just wondering…
They probably thought they wouldnt survive
JYJ thought with cassiopeia they had a shot even if it was a long we’ll probably end up farmers shot.
*shrug*
U speak my mind… The more I learn about the bullshittery SME has been doing as its “OPERATING PRINCIPLES”, the more I wonder what the other two had been offered just to stay with that f***ked up company.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they got shares in the company…
@kokoromiya7
and yeah… i have the same idea…
gawd~! this is so screwed up!
just get it over and done with!
to kokoromiya7
This could be true. But wouldn’t that just be the kicker, that with ALL the BS that SM is pulling, they’re stocks will “bottom out” and be worth nothing (of which I am hoping)! Then where would the other two be?! Kind of sad, really.
This NEEDS to END next month! If SM pulls this again, the judge needs to just say to them, “You’re done” no more wasting the courts time and make a final ruling! JYJ and fans need this behind them. I has dragged on long enough.
Well, from what I see, HoMin and their parents just wasn’t ready to be out from the popularity and live in poverty while JYJ is set to be farmers if this case didn’t succeed. So that’s why HoMin stick in SM.
honey i think jyj cant be just a farmer, junsu definitely will become a famous musical actor, yoochun will be an actor which he so good at it, and my jj oppa he can be a song writer, an actor and i believe he recently try to be a director in live perfomance, the three of them full of tallent if you compare them right right ? he he he
Yoochun will be a badass farmer smoking his pipe and going yee-hah while watching over his lovely estate…
Jaejoong will be a sexy haciendero (a real large land & lotsa horses…)
And Junsu will be an awesome rodeo rider~! Smack that ass!
See what you made me picture~! X’DDDDD
Ridiculous!
Really, what went on in HoMin’s heads to chose slaving machinery over friends is out of my power of apprehension. If it was the money – I can’t believe that after this… Cowardice? Backstabbing? Dunno, but JYJ wins either way!
Either blackmail or a reallu good ‘shut-up’ compensation. Or what I have presummed since the beginning: their parents and their connection with sm
Really staying with my job require a raise and more vacation days so who is to seriously expect HM didn’t get that kind of incentive and more. Plus before their lawsuit, Yunho had signed a cf deal (which I believe to be Envisu or something) and already schedule. Why don’t they stay at a job with no benefits, no raise, or nothing in return for leaving a company? Let’s see whether they would still stay.
* I mean movie schedule for heading to the ground already.
I think that did it…
I agree…
Of course SM will not let the lawsuit end here. They will drag it as long as possible. They have to. It seems like things are going well for JYJ at the courtroom. So if the lawsuit ends here, SM will have to pay huge amount of compensation. Furthermore, with the situation in Japan, SM is having a really hard time earning money. Korean music market is doing not much good for music companies since illegal download is everywhere. That’s why all Korean artists are rushing to Japan-the second largest music market in the world. However, Japan is now devastated by the earthquake. Even as heartless as they are, SM cannot just go on with all the promotion, CD releases and boyband debut. But it must be extremely hard for SM since they’re supposed to release SNSD album in April and debut Super Junior in May. Now Sm has to postpone all of their plans. They couldn’t count on Korean music market for making money and now they cannot count on Japanese market either. Imagine how hard it is, especially with all the huge expense they still have to pay. So yeah, SM is not allowed to lose any other battle, at least at the moment! It’s sad that there will be another hearing. But it seems like we finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
And I don’t think JYJ’s lawyer wants to drag the lawsuit any further. I believe they are trying their best to end it because if JYJ receive compensation from SM, they will get their share of that too. That’s how things work. Lawyers get paid and sometimes take a share of compensation paid to their clients. And winning the lawsuit will boost their reputation even further. So, no, JYJ’s lawyers are definitely doing their best for the boys!
You mentioning of SM’s current hardships made me feel sooo good 😀
as bad as that sounds, yeah… i cant agree more… ^___^
@IMY, :), :). 🙂 count me in
@Emma
Yup, Lady Karma in her infinite wisdom is using an unspeakable tradgedy to strike a blow to SME. How appropriate, a natural disaster is going to add insult to injury to a very deserving group of bloodsuckers.
All the activities you mentioned, show how short-sighted they have been. The stiffed their biggest money-maker. AVEX at least had sense enough to try and gouge the situation by releasing a JYJ product.
But now, JYJ is in the position to continue with their plans that have nothing to do with work in Japan. And once they cross the ocean and begin work in the States, they can gain back some of that loss they had to endure for the showcases. While at the same time staying classy in their actions.
Brings a HUGE smile to my face. Lady Karma sure knows how to pick a winner, and at the same time give the loser the ‘fickle finger of fate.’
dont use the word aproppiate , its so inhuman, tragedies like that dont have anything good for ANYBODY
@shhhh
I’m not saying the disaster is appropriate. It’s that SME is having to find out the hard way, from the very act of a natural disaster, that their plans can always be put on the back burner. Nothing in life is guaranteed. They have been counting their chickens before they hatch.
@ Emma
I agreed totally with you!!! This is exactly what I want to say…. SME will have a setback in getting profit from Japan’s market….for now….They are totally desperate now….
>.>……SME that is fucking ridiculous.
Well, next time any dumb SM lover comes at me with the “sme took care of everything” I’ll point this out to them then ask “exactly where do you see SM paying for ish?? You don’t see it, DBSK paid for everything. Now go sit in your corner and shut up.”
Btw, that Judge needs to be stricter and stop letting SM stall the judgment.
Go ahead and give SM their walking papers already!
Can someone please let us know what’s going on in Korea? How has this been reported & what are the reactions of the Korean fans, but also the Korean public?
Well for starter, there is a VERY biased news article favoring SME’s witness(while leaving crucial info that can make SME look bad out) The Kr fas are gathering evidence to refute that BoA, Trax, The Grace and Go Ara made more than TVXQ in 08′ but respected figures already side with JYJ even more than before. For the public it depends, majority of them already know about SME unfair contracts so it doesn’t shock them but now they are seeing SME in a more bad light, Then there is an insignificant amount of hotel girls pretending to be the general public saying the public sides with SME LOL please my grandma, uncle and their friends and their friends know SME is in the wrong and they side with JYJ even more because they are employees to a company treating them unfairly. A whole LOT of people who didnt care for KPOP is now intrigued at how SME shady business is clouding international judgement on Korea.
Thank you! I was hoping this would be over already, but SM dragging it out could play in JYJ’s favour if it’s shining more light on SM shady business, & win JYJ more fans from outside of kpop. Poor boys, they must feel like they finally climb one mountain only to be confronted with ten more. I wish we could knock all of those mountains down for them.
I won’t be shocked if some public side with SM as I have seen quite a few “ot5 fans” and HoMin fans who side with SM… but I would really like to know the general public opinion about SM and the whole lawsuit
The Hotel Girls are SME’s minions. They are paid by SME. Who in their right mind, would act the way the Hotel Girls do, especially with the judgements made in favor of JYJ.
The only news coming from a translation from tohosomnia is a very sm biased review of the court. Then she noted to take this with a pinch of salt
not surprised in the least.
Not a fan of ot5 sites cause of the higher potential for stuff to be “softened up” and made to look a certain way instead of laying it out like it really is.
@bmw81187 The bias isn’t the translator in this case. The tohosomnia translator’s notes say the article (from spn & yuearubi) is SM-biased, and notes some of the SM statements that don’t add up. The bad thing is that the Korean news source is reporting SM’s side.
I never visited ot5 sites anymore cos mostly they always sugarcoating news which is sucks.
OT5 sites are the last place on earth that JYJ fans can go. we get killed on the spot if say anything that favors JYJ there. it’s like there’s a silent shoot to kill order issued against JYJ fans who know about the REAL STUFF.
i just pity them the more i look at their stupid blindness…
“[TRANS] 110315 4th Trial Of SM Vs JYJ.. SM Treasurer Appears As A Witness” in forum “Tohosomniac Records”.
The fourth trial of the lawsuit between JYJ and SM Entertainment took place on the 15th.
Last April, SM filed an exclusive contract validity verification and compensation for losses lawsuit against the trio to which the trio filed an exclusive contract invalidity verfication and unjust profit restitution counter-lawsuit against SM. On the 15th, the two sides held a hearing.
The trial that was held this day included an examination of a witness, Mr Yoon, who was in charge of handling TVXQ’s income and accounts in SM Entertainment.
At the trial, Mr Yoon stated, “SM artistes settle their accounts twice a year for the income from overseas and domestic activities and album sales. Before the accounts are settled and the artistes are paid, the celebrity, his or her manager, the treasurer and his or her parents get together, make sure that the income division is done exactly according to the contract and sign a paper stating that the correct income division was carried out. This information is also looked over by an accounting firm.”
He continued to state that TVXQ’s income division was done through a legal and just process as he said, “The trio have never voiced a complaint about the income division till now. The income division has always been done according to the contract with consent from the trio, and we have never omitted any profits or expenses.”
Also, Mr. Yoon explained the process behind TVXQ’s income division as well as the members’ expenses, income and salary received in advance. He also gave thorough answers to the questions given by the lawyers of SM and the trio regarding album sales and royalties.
The trio did not attend the trial. The next trial will be held on April 19th at the same location and the Courts are planning to hold an examination on another witness, Nam So Young, the CEO of SM Japan who was in charge of TVXQ’s Japanese activities.
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T/N: Read this with a pinch of salt please! This is the only article out there and as you can see, it’s quite SM biased.
From what I’ve read from accounts of the trial, these so-called thorough answers from Mr. Yoon included the following:
-TVXQ only earned 1 billion of the 14.7 billion Won of SM’s overseas royalty.
-Mirotic was written down as 480K copies in the SM accounts “for convenience sake” meaning that TVXQ could not receive their 50 million Won bonus for selling 500K+
I don’t know about you guys, but er, these don’t seem so ‘thorough’ as the article makes them out to be.
It’s your call in the end but er… yeah. =/
My reaction to the posted article on THsmnia:
O.O
WOW~!!!
so, now i don’t wonder why there are still so many misguided/blinded/easily manipulated OT5/HM fans out there…
really…
She was saying that the news are SM biased so we should take them with a pinch of salt
still is posted and many will obviously believe it
But at this point, those who don’t believe in JYJ good intentions and think that “sm is not that bad!” will believe what they want to believe
Which is not that much different from us, claiming some information is biased and believe in what we want from all different sources with different approach and view of the situation
In the end, keep in mind that OT5 sites try (key word try) to be neutral, so they have the “moral” responsibility (?) to post all kind of information, regretless of how biased it is, as long as it comes from a reliable source.
Ok let me sniker a little bit at SM’s face!!
WOW this is hillarious!!!
The Trax & CSJH had no activities in 2008 in Japan and exept 2 members of the Trax in a sitcom they had no activities in Korea!
Boa in Japan sold 250K copies for an album and 50K copies for a single released only 1 DVD and had only 20 tour dates in halls(not more than 10k people for concert)and then went to flop in the US(SM lost a lot of money then),all the mentioned above could not have made more than TVXQ in Japan,not even a quarter of what TVXQ made!!
TVXQ Japan 2008:698.5K copies sold of the Album,524.4K copies in sigles,177.5K copies DVD,they had their “2nd Asia Live tour “O”” and “3rd Japan Live Tour “T”” in ARENAS!!(huge ammount of people)plus always only in Japan they had that mints(?)cf and others cf which considering their status in Jap would have brought hella lot of money!!
Anybody can see through SM lies,you don’t need to be a genius!!
And sers why the hell the judge do not fine SM for always being the reason as why the judgment is always postponed??!???It would be totally legal and understandable if they did that!!
If i tried to play a trick like that with one of the judges who work here,they would have my boobs removed and kept as a souvenir “for that damn lawyer who tought she was smarter than law”!!
LOL!!! I’m glad I don’t live where you live – I’m kinda attached to my boobs!!!
^_=me too
it’s just a saying but they would defenetly make my life as hell,they get pissed even when i try to postpone a court hearing because of a fair reason if i tried this bullshit they will make me pay for it for the next 20 years!
LOL
LOL…Same here!
Do you think that if we all tip this to AllKPop they will publish it ? Cuz there are so many antis JYJ on allkpop, it’s pissing me off to no end. And it also looks like there are still a lot of people who believe that SM paid all the expenses for TVXQ and so that JYJ shouldn’t complain since SM “took care of everything” and that “JYJ didn’t have to pay anything so the money they got was more than enough”.
No they won’t because it’s not a source from a news article.
if these results comes up on nate or some other news site, then we can probably tip allkpop.
oh ok, that’s a shame then 😦
Seriously? That’s so annoying. A super biased “news” source can get published for all to see, but JYJ’s can’t because it’s not from a “news” source 😡 No wonder I always see so many JYJ antis. If this stuff got published, any decent human would be shocked, not just a JYJ fan.
It was revealed today that what SM counted as overhead expenses included EVERYTHING…such ‘SM Executives & Staff!!”
WOW!! so some ppl need to Wake Up for calling JYJ with bad name and it is Bad to wish Downfall for SME,WHICH they thought so many ‘innocent’ ppl working with that company..
=.=
heh..yea right..they live on DBSK’s expenses..
lol many in the courtroom started laughing
anyways even though i was upset about the next hearing date, it’s not too bad anyways. Japan is going through a hard time and SM released the new MV of TVXQ with all this alot of attention was taken away from this court case. last time everyone knew it was JYJ’s hearing date and came online to trend #JYJwin. This time everyone was more spazzing away about TVXQ’s new album and completely forgot that today was JYJ’s hearing. I had to remind a few and they were like “ohh yeahh”
SM was very slick releasing their MV yesterday. April 19 will be better because their worldwide concert starts, which means more new JYJ fans will arise..so more people will be aware of the courtcase and when they win, we’ll be a huge buncha people celebrating. It woulda been hard to celebrate now with what’s happening in Japan.
I thought the same, isn’t it smart of SM to release TVXQ’s MV the same day as the hearing so that fangirls are too busy spazzing to care about what’s happening at the court…
#prayforjapan
And you can also donate through JYJ Charity Foundation.
I was really sad that HoMin’s new vid came out today, and yes though it is good for them, i just can’y help but feel BITTER (in the highest degree) that their brothers can not even afford to appear in one music show to sing their own song.
I just hope, I pray to God that when this damned thing is over, JYJ will have the whole world for themselves. SME can keep Korea to themselves for all I care!
That’s some evil genius ploy from SME, no surprise there but what confused me are some of the fans. How could they go back on forth between the two sides? One moment they are picketing for JYJ and the next they’ll enabling SME’s vile behavior through HM.
…I didn’t even know HoMin was releasing an MV.
i heard the song and saw the MV, i was cringing throughoout it, i guess im not used to hearing homin sing like that and once again to much autotune, im sure i wud have liked the MV if it wasnt for the fact that Go Ara was in it
i see the mv and my first thought is sm will charge homin for that mv, seriously theres a lot CG and the cost you a lot
I think SM already have a patent formula.
Upbeat Songs – Midtempo -Slow
ex. Shinee : Lucifer – Hello
Suju : Bonamana – No Other
Sorry sorry – Its You – Sorry2 R&B version
2vxq : Why – Maximum- Before u go
SNSD and Fx dont have this formula, coz mainly their songs are the bubblegum catchy songs. Cant blame them. Its what the market wants anyway
I haven’t listened to it… i can’t~ X<
I just can't bring myself to watch them… or listen to any song from them… *sighs*
Is this a black comedy? Is SM putting in a huge mock show for the entire courthouse? As much as I had fun reading their outrageous display I would like to see the end of this tragic comedy please. I hope april 19th “IS IT” please. Jeez (-.-)
Oh SM…You dig yourself deeper and deeper into a pit. I’m just shocked that their arguments are so flawed…Seriously? Seriously SM? Was your error so huge that it can’t be covered by a competent lie?
LOL. So embarrassed for SM right now.
I never doubted the members reasons for leaving; they became glaringly obvious to those who could see and reason. What continues to amaze me is SMs continued hounding of JYJ even as these facts come to light! If the Korean entertainment industry turns a blind eye to this, other innocent young hopefuls, looking for fame, will receive the same treatment.
What amazes me is the fans who back SME.
WOW REALLY? And Homin, love them but WAE?
Why are you sticking around, really? Scared to
make a wave?
What’s the deal Changmin, Yunho?
Boggles my mind.
The answer to that question will be left in a void, never to be found out, never to be heard…
“The more they are active, the more they lose money…how is there anyone that thinks this makes any sense?”
GOT DAMN SHAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
I’m glad the court laughed at SME…they deserve it.
I totally can feel SME’s ‘baby business’ quirks showing BIG TIME. New businesses are always like this, esp. if they didn’t come into it with a business mindset. They don’t take care of their business right and they wound up getting sued left and right. Compared to the rest of the world’s music industry SME came out in 1995 WHAT A BABY! and it shows big time esp. in this case.
SME grow up, go back to school and learn how to run a business Lee Soo Man.
To be fair, they are actually good in producing well-manufactured bubble gum pop idols with mass-followings. Groundbreaking trend-setters, they are not.
But I do agree they got way ahead of themselves through this lawsuit, they really thought they were invisible and can easily crush JYJ by blocking the guys left and right.
Yeah.
When it comes to the money side of things…wow.
They need help.
dont say about JYJ fans LIke me beauses may be say too bias but the fans of 5 know and love the boys for few years Did really “Koh Ara really brought in more revenue than Dong Bang Shin Ki”??? and all expense for all company include SM executives from head to toe.. OOO…I lean Accouting but i still can not get it…
definitely no! Ko ara weren’t even that active… i could say she’s not even that popular and with no big hit dramas/projects… just a display SM artist.
BOA+ TRAX + CSJH + Koh Ara will not even exceeds TVXQ’s popularity and profit!
SM is BS
Damn SM! No wonder the boys left the company! SM is full of bullshit if you haven’t noticed…. When JYJ left the company apparently because of SM everyone blamed the boys for their greeds and their hunger for money… Just watch karma is going to hit SM so bad they might even go bankrupt with no artist left to support them
sadly, it will be hard for sm to go bankrupt because they still have snsd, shinee and suju
Ignorance must be bliss…
But bliss based on lies can only last so long…
Delaying the inevitable wont save their asses, it only made them look that much of a sore loser. And with each hearing, they are just exposing more and more of their corrupt system and increasing the lawyer fees. Didn’t they have to pay for the last suit on the double-contract? Wonder which of their idols’ paycheck is being subtracted as ‘overhead expenses’ for all these courtroom shenanigans. Maybe Koh Ara since she brought in even more money than DBSK despite appearing in flop dramas.
I am sure JYJ will win. Problem is time only. But I really hope the case will soon end and wait for a new Korean album
I love JYJ so much, so much, so much, so so much…..
Pray for Japan.
Pray for JYJ.
Gosh. My blood boils that it’s almost evaporating! Well, we’re dealing with terribly insane people though, what can we do. It’s like, when we all agree sun rises from east, SM blatantly says sun rises from west. I give up, i won’t try to justify SM anymore. Same goes to its minion, to me, following insane person, u’re also insane.
What i’m hoping now is media putting these joke SM made at the hearing on their news portal. Not the bias one like spn. JYJ and fans, fighting!
i heard that sm requested another court meeting because they wanted to request another witness for themselves. does anyone know who this witness is and the reason sm told the courts why they needed this witness?
sm makes me so mad.
The new witness will be Nam So Young, the CEO of SM Japan who was in charge of TVXQ’s Japanese activities.
thanks
Put it in a layman’s context:
It’s like me working in an office, I need to pay:
– my bosses’ parking and petrol fee
– the cleaner’s salary
– training fee for new staffs
– all expenses on machinery used like fax and phones
– overseas expenses like flight, accomodations and overseas staffs!!
– my bosses’ family expenses
– my bosses’ pet food
– etc, etc..
Then at the end of the year, my boss tells me
“since you have not gotten any potential sales over XXX next year, you’re not getting any pay. Oh btw, you still OWE me $$$$$ after all the deductions!!!”
Duh~~ I think I’ll be in jail for manslaughter after this!!!
lol, this crack me up, hahahha
The title is so right!!!! Get out from that Slave Management and sue for their criminal are the right things to do. ‘The more they active the more they lose money…’ Who will stay in that crazy company??? Dbsk deficit but LSM is one of the richest people in Korea??? Ughhh…can’t talk anymore… It’s too crazy… Poor dbsk, thanks God now JYJ already free from that bloody sucker company. Homin? Can’t say anything for them, God bless u guys…
what i have to say? SM jelas2 muka badak..
aisshh..muak banget…
this is,,the most disgusting thing i ever heard after my ex president corruption issue and he never be punished until he passed away. like~ this world full of unjustice,it`s very clear who is right and wrong, but we can`t do anything about it,bcause take action against who has the power it`s never win. Hope JYJ can change it
and can win the lawsuit soon.
GO GO GO JYJ….
WE BELIEVE IN YOU…. FOREVER….
i think i know why they give as little as possible to TVXQ..becoz they know the power of money, so the boys won’t have enough money to be free from the company.and they would remain their slave like forever…and ever.
I am so disgusted at SM’s behavior. I am currently studying entertainment law and I want to go to Korea and help JYJ but on second thoughts, no, they already have excellent lawyers. I want to work for SM, then I will be rich because they keep suing and getting sued left, right and center…suckers!
SM became big because of these lies and accounting shit.
I’m glad JYJ came forward.
All those people who say that since JYJ did sign the contract they should have known what they were getting into and so that they should honor and respect it (just like the “loyal” Homin are doing, and blah blah blah) make me wonder if they even read the contract =_= Because I did, and nowhere was it precised that TVXQ had to pay for so many expenses and that SM could deduce basically whatever they want from the members’ pay.
So yeah, looks like TVXQ’s contract isn’t that transparent…(not forgetting the fact that it isn’t fair either).
Plus TVXQ didn’t even see their japanese contract since it was signed solely between SM and Avex. Not knowing exactly what was going on in Japan for them must not have been very comfortable…
I never bought the excuse that just because they signed the contract, they should uphold it. People seem to forget that during the time they signed, they were minors and wanted to debut and SME had the upper hand. Even if JYJ’s parents had also read the contract, I doubt they could have really understood the technicality and gravity of its terms, considering that it was SME who made it and all JYJ had to do was sign it. It was one-sided.
Now that JYJ have grown older and understood how the system works, they realize just how unfair the contract is (which it really is). Since they signed a contract which is supposed to be binding, the law gives them grounds to terminate, especially if there are valid reasons to do so. It’s a legal right and provided for by law to every person who’s a party to an unfair/void contract.
Personally, I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a 13-year contract where I’m told what I’m supposed to do and I’m just supposed to do it, I have to pay for everything and I don’t even know what I’m paying for most of the time, I don’t get the pay I deserve for the work I do, and I don’t even own the songs I make and the royalties to them. So yeah, I probably would have filed for contract termination too, if I was in JYJ’s place.
gosh SM is so mean to them. TVXQ deserves a better agency. like srsly. I’m kinda disappointed to HoMin for not to choose the same path as JYJ but hey, it’s a free world! you can choose whether you want it or not, though. but I’d be so delighted if someday HoMin quit from SME and join JYJ and make an new group consisting of five of them. AKTF!
i really3 hope jyj win this case… if not WW3 might happen… know what i really3 hope jyj can sing 2gther n forever… i dun want them back with homin anymore after what homin did n say 2 them… i think it is enough with just 3 of them… i dun care who take TVXQ name anymore bcoz as long as JYJ continue singing i will always keep waching at them.. as for homin they can take TVXQ name n TVXQ popularity if they really want that much… people might say that homin is ‘loyal’ and jyj is a ‘betrayer’… well i think JYJ ‘betrayer’ is very2 awesome n cool… JYJ r a’betrayer’ because they left their damn selfish company who likes to suck up their hardwork…. jyj is a ‘betrayer’ bcos they r really3 care bout their frenship n family rather than giving money 2 that damn company… well i think homin might have share in d company n obviously they dun want dat company go bancrupt… well money is important than fren rite… then i like jyj for being a ‘betrayer’… jyj is a betrayer who r hot+awesome+multitalented+caring… u know what its sooooooooo hard to find a ‘betrayer’ like jyj.i dun want they become ‘loyal’ like homin… it soooo lame…. hahahaha
jyj keep fighting till d end bcoz i will always support u guys… jyj aku cinta pada mu la~~~
i like you’re comment ^^
haha..true tat..totally agree with u..ill keep watching n listening to jyj’s artworks no matter wat ppl say..whoever said theyre betrayers mus b blind n deaf..by watever BS sm & media fed them..proud of jyj for standing up to sm..plus ❤ their new singings better…IMO.^.^..
jyj fighting~!..u always hav us who're rooting for u..
i just read this blog (truetvxq.blogspot.com)that just pissed me off..she named it truetvxq and claimed that homin is the most honest members in tvxq..omg..i just realised dat i cant just simply open any website coz this one really make my day miserable..
FYI , jaejoong, yoochun, junsu are success because of SM, dont you know ? it means, JYJ is SUCCESS BECAUSE OF SMent! please don’t blame SM like that. I prefer Homin than JYJ anyway.
Please don’t blame Yunho and Changmin since they are not involve in the case, only the SMent officials and the JYJ are into this case. Let’s not judge since we don’t know what really happened between the 2 parties, only them can settle this. Let’s just hope and pray that may the outcome of this case is just. Let’s not add fuel to the fire by bashing each other and blaming who’s right or wrong. Let’s just wait for the final verdict of this case. 🙂
True coleen. Though i wish all 5 will perform together on stage again one day.. Ive never been to a concert before n i pray that their concert 2gether will be my first. & SM WE ALL CAN C THROUGH UR BULLS***