Avex Entertainment announced in September 2010 its decision to put a stop to JYJ’s activities. Since then JYJ have not been able to do any substantial activities in Japan.
Nonetheless, even though Avex has barred JYJ from doing entertainment activities in Japan under their label, it has released many products that heavily feature JYJ and are highly profitable. The recent DVD titled “JYJ Memories in 2010” is an example.
Despite the DVD’s apparently popularity due to its featuring JYJ, the DVD is not on the Oricon Chart.
A Japanese fan who thought that this was strange made an inquiry with Avex and received the following response:
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- Avex declared (to me) in a phone conversation with its customer center that: “because we refrain from engaging in any promotional activities for artists whose activities are on halt, (since we put JYJ’s activities on halt) we will not do any kind of promotional activities of this product (JYJ Memories in 2010 DVD).”
- I had a phone conversation with Avex. The answer of the male at the Customer Center: “The Oricon Chart is a form of promotional activities. Because we have announced the cessation of the artist’s activities and so are refraining from engaging in any kind of promotional activities, we did not put (the DVD) on the Oricon Chart.”
Korean fans have long lamented that Avex keeps making profits off of JYJ in Japan while blocking them from having a career in Japan. The recent DVD is yet another example.
Source: @hanaluca on Twitter
Credit: JYJ3
Fucking greedy fucks.
JYJ get your asses into Warner Japan already.
Any BE that ditches you cause you’re not with AVEX wasn’t a fan to begin with.
And no AVEX, you will not get to play the little drama queen, victim card anymore.
Hmmmm I always been curious over the profits distribution for all these merchandise/DVDs. Do JYJ get a piece of the profit or all goes to AVEX?
I’m pretty sure it would be illegal for AVEX to not give them a cut.
Oh, right. That makes sense(can I just blame SM for making me jaded >_<) Thanks for answering.
Oh, right. That makes sense(can I just blame SM for making me jaded >_<) Thanks for answering.
BTW I totally agree with your comment above. If there are BE who rather believes on AVEX lies, JYJ are better off without fans like them
FUCK U AVEX. I won’t pay a cent of my money to you even if you put JYJ name on it.
and this is why I trust no companies.
Avex are some slimy, dirty SOBs.
I trust CJes now though ^___^
Avex and SME and all the big entertainment companies in Korea just suck
I’m curious, their contract with avex isn’t over yet right? So that’s why they can’t really do anything until the contract is officially over especially with avex putting a halt on their activities. I’m a bit worried since avex is quite influential in Japan as well, just hope JYJ won’t be in the same situation in Japan as they are in Korea. I hope BigEasts will stay strong and pull through just like K-fans and I-fans are trying right now. Fighting, JYJ fans!!
I’m worried about that too. I want JYJ to have atleast one place they can go and promote without being blacklisted.
AVEX basically accused jyj of having yakuza connections which i heard japanese people view extremely negatively
Also BE came out full force for Homin.
We dont really hear much from BE but theres no doubt that they deliver in the end for the boys
Are bigeasts not concerned with the lawsuit issue? are they unaware? how many of them still support JYJ after the avex split? we dont really know the answers to these questions
I just hope JYJ find a STRONG agency and Bigeast supports them
Atleast JYJ’s avex friends still talk to them publicly
the only other j-company who can rival and probably better than avex in terms of power and profit is JE LOL
upside : they’ll be HUGE
downside : no more pics for us fans xD
i dont particulary like JE, though i love JE artists
i’ve heard a lot of bad things about JE but joining would benefit JYJ as long as they are able to mainitain the tohoshinki style
i was wondering why JE let yamapi&co. take pictures with Jae and post them on a public forum…..
but i dont wont to think about the possibilities and set myself up for disappointment.
JYJ joining JE is a looooong shot. And I dont think I’m ready to see the boys with sparkly suits and boas LOL
with numerous juniors not yet debut, slim chance they’ll take jyj. Or they’ll go with jin’s way.. JE as the management company and warner japan as their music comapany. But again, JE is full of greedy bastard too..
Personally I think it’d be a smart move from JE to hire JYJ, with arashi being no.1, they can make jyj as number 2 passing exile (bcos admit it, there is no way in chance anyone could topple arashi as no.1, and to be honest I like them to stay there ^^).
With kattun slowly drowning after jin’s departure and news not yet gaining the mass love like arashi, JE is in need of a new group..JYJ is faaaarrr better than hey!say!jump!
yea…i really don’t see them doing the whole JE thing either plus the style of JE groups is soooo different from what JYJ does. And if by some long shot they did join JE, they would be HUGE but honestly no one will beat Arashi for #1 at least not at this point in time. I’m not a big fan of their kind of music but they do get my respect because they are as big as you can get in Japan. All i really want is for this Avex contract to end so that JYJ is free to do what they want….i’m so sick of dumbass AVEX!! >:|
We don’t know when JYJ’s contract with Avex ends ~~ yes, it’s commonly thought that they must still be under contract with them and that’s why they can’t do much in Japan.
Even though I’m bitter about Avex dropping their support of JYJ — and it sucks about the DVD not being on the Oricon chart! — their numerous JYJ releases keep the boys in front of the Japanese fans, even though JYJ can’t promote there. And I assume there’s a distribution of profit from the sales so some of it goes to JYJ (I don’t think JYJ would’ve signed the separate contract with Avex if the terms had been as bad as SM’s). I know Avex is squeezing every last yen out of the fans that they can, but the positive side is that these releases keep Japanese fans interested in JYJ. I hope BigEast stays strong, too!
The whole Japan/Avex issue is so complicated. Am wondering if Avex on their part may be willing to let JYJ go and be potentially taken by another company. If the damage due to Yakuza accusation is big enough to deter other companies from signing them. Can’t wait for the contract to end to see what happens. Nevertheless, am not really counting on BE support since it seems most BE want JYJ in Avex which I wonder if its probable considering the whole situation.
I personally think the yakuza thing didn’t damage their rep that much. I mean JJ is still winning polls over there without promoting. Many BE still came to the airport to see Soulmate. And all their things sell really well there. Especially counting the fact that all the Japanese items that JJ has shown on twitter sell off really fast.
Also even though Yoochun is ‘affilaited’ with the mafia he still gained new Ahjumma and younger fans through his acting in SKKS. If they actually believed the Yakuza rumours this would not have happened.
Also, their fans stalked them the first time ever when they came to Japan. Before this, when they were working under Avex and SME, I never heard of that many BE coming to the airport or even stalking the boys in Japan during their activities. BE really miss and love the boys too.
(Never heard of this many BE showing up for the return of the so-called Kings)
Also, MANY Bigeast came to Korea to support JYJ. SO many that hotels couldn’t properly accommodate them.
Also, the BE did the Billboard project and we didn’t even hear about the fun collection or planning or anything.
The reason I am saying all this is I dislike competition among fandoms. The Korean fandom=Japanese fandom=International fandom. In the end we are all fans who love the 3 we just support to different levels. Japanese fans just don’t ask for help from international fans nor do they tell Korean fans about their projects.
Please JYJ fans stop generalizing BE and calling them bad or assuming they are the ‘bad fans not supporting JYJ now’. It is tiring reading these kinds of comments. We can only guess what is happening. I am sure when JYJ are allowed to return to Japan they will still sell out Tokyo Dome concerts in minutes.
Yep. A+++++++++++++++++++++ to phoenixia
^ About the BE not coming to the airport to meet the boys: they actually do, except that we don’t get to see much fancams. Maybe because they would rather not film them??? I dunno
And as for the concept of moving to another label, the problem lies in if JYJ signing a contract with JE, then that would contradict to their Cjes system. The reason why JYJ went to CJes is to form a mutual relationship and business partners, whereas JE and AVEX are agencies. And as far as I understand, their contract with avex should have ended. Homin renewed their contract… in replacement for JYJ.
Such a shady business ne.
I saw this earlier in the heaven postman DVD which ranked 1st in the oricon chart daily but it disappeared after a few days which happened to be the day Avex announced the halt of activities. When I went back to check the same day I saw its 1st ranking, its no longer there. It just vanished. Now I understood why….
Then I’m not going to buy that DVD. AVEX don’t you realise that there are pirates wondering around. People can always buy Pirate ones instead of giving you the money. If the AVEX sells the JYJ’s DVD, does the JYJ got the incentives?
Seriously. I don’t do the pirated thing ( i like to buy the real thing) but I’ll do that before I give Avex any of my money.
Me too! I don’t go for fakes. However this case is special. Instead of giving AVEX money or we don’ t buy at all!!!
WOW Avex is just as LOW as SM! I wish I could SPIT on that fucking CEO FACE for being the biggest HYPOCRITE IN THE WORLD!
JYJ FIGHTING!
….. come on…they are fuckingnin … shit… greedy freak..%$#@$$#~~!!!
then whats with the use of releasing it..?
answer: MONEY.!!!!!!!
avex go to hell!
This DVD is so freaking cute but I don’t want to buy it since it’s from Avex and I’m not totally sure how the profits will be split.
Well, birds of the same feather flock together…
Dirty SOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as JYJ are getting their pay am partially okay with this fuckery. Anyhoo does anybody know when their contract with Avex will ends.
avex is greedy like sm
can’t trust these companies
really hope jyj contrac twith avex expire soon…then they can be active in japan again
avex is just butthurt!
they know that anything JYJ will reach no.1
so they block it but keeps on raking in the
money from it. real classy…
since word of the moment is ‘CLASSY’.^^
hope when JYJ make its comeback in Japan
its not with avex.
i’m sure avex is not the only big guns there.
Disgusting. Avex isn’t any better than SM in their shameless exploitation of the trio. If you’re going to really halt their activities, then shouldn’t you also stop the production of all their goods as well? I’m now more than ever disappointed at some of the Japanese fans who still believe that JYJ should reconcile with this two-faced company. I’m just worried that the second season of 3hree voices might be produced by them again..
it’s not produced through avex, I already heard it’s independent from them.
It isn’t. Word is that JYJ got smart and now make sure that they own the rights to w/e shit they film.
Our boys are learning. ^^
hey hey… not w/e “shit”… lol
They are all diamonds ok….
the rarest most beautiful diamonds ^___^ (lol so biased)
It just amazed me how scared Avex is of SM…
So what if SM pulls out their artists from Avex!
Aint Avex a big company also?
Why are they acting like a pussy cat?!!!
I remember a while ago we had a lot of BigEasts turning up in jyj3 and conversing in japanese ^.^
it was pretty cool and had me rushing to google translate
really? I have no idea..
TBH.. I dont have that much faith in Japanese fans compared to Korean and International fans.
I just feel they prefer HM over JYJ.
don’t say like that^^ JJ is big there…
And i am sure Japanese fans will realize to help JYJ, one have take a big step to against AVEX.
Japanese fans so sweet and like avoid trouble, they are a bit slow ^^;
Toooooo Sloooooooooooooooooooooooow~~~~~~~~
Trouble comes to you even if you wanna avoid them, in the case of JYJ.. and JYJ fans…duh~
yah they actually too slow ;_;
but… seriously… aishhh *sigh* i hope it really going okay for JYJ… >_<
we wouldn’t know that. from what they are showing, they are supporting JYJ. they just aren’t as updated abt the case as we and korean fans are.
and that having been said, even if they are not the most knowlegable people abt the issues regarding the case and they are still showing love for JYJ, i believe BE still cared for the boys.
let’s be fair and not assume they don’t support the boys anymore. we are all JYJ fans and we need to love each other.
^___________^
hugs Sammie
I am absolutely speechless….
We have to do something about this… let’s boycott the DVD so they will stop making money out of the boys while preventing them from performing in Japan! (At the same time, for those that already purchased it, please load online so it can be shared and enjoyed by all JYJ fans for free!)
This is just so unfair! We need to teach these people some lessons. Remember, we have the power…. because they need our money! Let’s use it wisely!
Any other ideas? I’m officially on SM and AVEX boycott! I will not buy any of their products or attend any of their concerts! Unless it’s free (LOL!)
Me too. I won’t even watch any of their artists on TV now. (I often watch Korean TV)
I’ve been doing that too. Bycotting sm and avex products.
OH! how i would love it if the fans who bought the dvd will post links of downloads online! ^^
i love FREE items! LOL
Avex is the lesser evil so they need to be taught a lesson too~!
JYJ isnt gaining anything from what Avex is selling under their names, so let’s make sure Avex doesn’t profit from us fans!
I will do that too !!! Now with Avex. As for SME other artists I didn’t buy any of their records since JYJ lawsuit with SME.
Oh lord.
And they shamelessly admit it too -.- Please let the contract end soon, to think that I joined that thank you postcard thing to max before, I really hate myself now.
they must be afraid that jyj’s sales is better than youknowho…. T___T
Tbh I’ve been hearing from many people, people who don’t actually give a fuck JYJ or Homin, say that their single was criminally cheap in comparison to other singles and that many hardcore fans bought them in large amounts.
And that you can also find their single currently being sold for about 100 Yen on Japan Amazon Auctions.
Tbh I don’t know how BE stand on anything anymore.
And yes, this was totally relevant to your comment.
lol I totally expected to hear someone say that since I suspected that as well. Messing with the prices as well as a lot of mass purchases.
SMH.
jeez, 100 yen? Isn’t that the equivalent of one cent U.S. currency? LOL wow.
1.2 dollars but if i had 12 dollars i can buy 10 copies
out of interest how much would your typical tohoshinki single actually cost
@bmw81187 1yen=1cent(approx) So it’s going for $1.
oh. still pretty much pocket change.
@bmw81187 100 yen is approximately $1.20 USD ^^
oops sorry Eliza already replied. should’ve refreshed page first =[
Last year ,when my friend went to work in Japan ,they bought for me some of stuff from Avex,(they didn’t know I hate AVEX …:)-Can you guys believe it ,The price of”THE…JUNSU/JEJUNG/YUCHUN” CD+DVD 2DISC IS 2,800 YEN &”THE COMPLETE SINGLE A-SIDE COLLECTION OF TOHOSHINKI “3 DISC IS 5,040 YEN& “THANKSGIVING IN DOME” IS 5,800 YEN…Avex ‘ve got a lots of money with those price tag.Oh man,after look back everything ,I want to make that company going to bankrupt….:)
We’re not gonna buy anything from Avex,stop putting our money into their hand ,guys.
We share totally the same thought…
That is a reasonable assumption. ^^
I want Avex say it out loud to us about ” when JYJ’s contract with Avex will ends “
If their activities are on halt, why is AVEX still selling product by JYJ? Last time I checked, pushing out new products is an activity.
What utter bs.
And there are people who say that JYJ are greedy… I just don’t get it… What avex has done is utterly disgusting…
Screw them.
Avex sucks ><"
Well, I guess this confirms that JYJ is NOT going back to Avex.
At this point, I just want to know when their contract with Avex will end.
After that, we’ll see what happens.
Seriously? Is there a competition going on for how evil a management company can be? I feel like there’s a joke that I’m not in on.
SM: Screw you AVEX I’m the Evilest Of Evil Management Company around!
AVEX: Nuh Uh honey child, I’m the EEMC!
SM: How bout we just buy each other platinum EEMC award trophies.
AVEX: Oooh as long as it has diamonds, let’s use all the money we are making of JYJ!
SM: Now you are talking my language!
Is it sad that I actually LOL’ed at this?
Us JYJ fans have got to laugh where we can!
@Aki, nope, I lol’d at “Nuh Uh honey child” 😀
Hmm.. If I’m not wrong.. there’s a continuation to this tweet, I think the fan also asked whether or not jyj will get the profit, and the representative answer yes, because the contract is still valid and avex only halt their activities. And then the fan asked, will SM get a share? the avex man said that he cant give the answer because its a confidential contract.
Hmmm if it is so confidential, they shouldn’t have confirmed about JYJ part too, or am I too quick to jump on their throat?
AVEX really should stop acting all coy and neutral over this because we know they are anything but.
if Avex put JYJ Memories DVD on Oricon ,SM’family will loose their face one more time… 🙂 because our JYJ will get top-selling ,for sure.So,the reason is out ,right.
Personally, I’m not entirely confident of JYJ fanbase in Japan. AVEX had done their job of tarnishing the guys’ image there so aside from loyal BE, JYJ still have a lot of work to do.
i have to agree. I wonder if there are still many supporter of jyj. But, I think that even homin is not that popular, kara is enjoying the most popularity. They sell over 500,000 but their popularity is like AKB48/arashi. I listend to kara new japan songs but they don’t sound good they are better in korean. But I think their charm is that they look appealing to japanese and when they sing in japan they shake their booties and the camera zooms in. And, when snsd was on the same music show like homin, I notice that more japanese seem to like snsd. I think it’s because japan has a fascination with doll-like girls which is why models in japan can become pulic idols and enjoy alot of popularity.
AVEX BURN!!!!!
gah how much i hate that company now more than ever it sucks my lovely AAA are with those greedy bastards!!
i want that contrat to finish so they can sign with warners
And they why Avex released this DVD in the 1st place then.
How greedy!
@ Life goes on ,they’re selling it but they’re not let the Oricon do the counting …They want to get money as much as they can ,and keep SM’ face as long as they can too..
AVEX is worst than SM. NO. both of them are so … so lame!
T_____________________________________T
mmm when AVEX release calendar or something after they halt JYJ’s japan activities, they said, becoz it’s already on schedule… but now… LOL…
they are really money grubber.. *head shake*
Smh…
Shake my GOT DAMN HEAD.
I expected to avex
funniest thing is that no sm lets you carry your groups now
japan sm take everything in Japan is just a label avex
toho suju will be managed by sm fx japan
JYJ love but I can not give my money to avex
I’d rather spend it on season 2 or 3 voices junsu musical dvd
why release new jyj stuff when you put them on halt. If avex refuses to work with jyj than let them go. But,avex think like sm which is that jyj will become big and they won’t have any part of it. So, the best thing to do is make them disappear from entertainment. But luckly, avex doesn’t have strong invisible hand like sm does.
“So, the best thing to do is make them disappear from entertainment”.
Ditto
But only after they totally squeeze to the backbone the trio.
Disgusting..
I will never never ever give my money to Avex..
Better use my money to 3HREE VOICE Part 2, Junsu’s musical concert DVD, or any other product released by their current label.
Go to hell, Avex.
am I reading this correctly? the mini album DVD is under avex? and AVEX is not allowing JYJ in promoting it in Japan nor be putting it in ORICON chart for fear it might over shadow other artists?
I hope someone will enlighten me with this… before I give my 2 cent thoughts.
I’ll wait for the outcome of this message before buying the DVD.
The Memories of 2010 DVD and the CD of the Thanksgiving at the Dome concert are recent releases from Avex. They are under the contract JYJ signed without SME, however, so JYJ will still get their cut as per the contract.
If you are only buying this to support JYJ, then there are better choices (such as waiting for the new 3Voices or buying the new edition of “The Beginning”). If you are buying them because you want the product–the memories DVD looks like it has some great stuff!–you can buy it without guilt because JYJ is getting their fair cut.
@ Eliza
Dear, just out of curiosity, how did you find out about the Avex & JYJ/THSK income distribution, and what is the percentage?
IC, then I’ll not be buying it, how can a company cripple an artist and yet get money out of it.
What a disgrace in the society.
@sammie I don’t know about the distribution for JYJ or TVXQ (I don’t think the boys have found out about the THSK contract yet.)
But by the time JYJ were working independent of SME, they knew what was standard in the industry and were getting good legal advice. I’m sure that the trio’s cut under the Avex contract free of SME is reasonable. Certainly better than what they had under SME which is next to zero. They wouldn’t have bothered working with them otherwise. (This is an educated assumption, I don’t have any proof.)
Ahhh… i see…
Thanks for replying bb~ *hugs*
I think yeah, that’s right. It’s possible that Avex’s profit distribution is better than SME’s.
So do I buy this then? LOL