This is an article published on piffania.com (Korean online web magazine).
You can find the original article here on its website. This article is very LONG, but we suggest that you read this when you get the chance. It provides a good overview of what all members of TVXQ – Jaejoong, Yunho, Yuchun, Junsu, Changmin – went through before their success in Japan.
As supplement information, we are adding TVXQ’s schedule on the last week of 2008. Yes, this is the infamous 2008 end of year schedule that even knocked out the fans who tried to follow TVXQ’s activities on TV and internet -_______-;;;
There are more evidences of TVXQ’s unreasonably hard and brutal schedules. Needless to say, these schedules were set in place by SM without consideration for artists’ health and/or personal circumstances. We have put together some of those together, but we are still in the process of translating some of them. Hopefully we can get those posted on the blog soon.
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what a brutal and so unhuman schedule >_<
I bet they were so tired but can't do nothing !!!!
T-T My heart just hurting me > OMG ,,wish if I can help them each one of them T-T
I wish just to help them ,, Just to help T_T with anything I can
Read this make me sick…
I think many people already knew about this situation but sort of turned a blind eye. I remember seeing people comment on how busy their schedules were and so worried they might get sick and not being able to perform. And I guess cuz they had no complaints, the schedule continues to grow.
I see why JYJ looks so much more carefree and relaxed now… I’d even dare say the who-must-not-be-named are also having the same thing…
Believe me, I don’t need a magazine to tell me how hectic their schedule is… Have any of you try to look for their videos (MV, reality show, live concert, music show, fan meeting, and other videos)? Like try to collect them?
There are TONS of it!!! Literally…
I’ve already collected more than 100GB and it amazes me how many of them I haven’t downloaded yet…
It’s as easy as 1+1=2 to conclude that their schedule is amazingly brutal…
So, it’s not surprising if they decide to quit being with SM… Believe me, it’s understandable…
Tot i’ve gone thru alot but.. these poor souls live a unimaginable schedules!It’s not difficult to understand why ppl fall sick on their much ‘treasured’ vacation coz our body is already at the breaking point of exhaustion.It’s understandable why ppl choose to live a simple life in a farm away from a ‘colorful’ lifestyle that many ppl adored.TO KEEP OUR SANITY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
I took two months to read all about DBSK past and present.Watch their videos from backstage to fancam,these includes from interviews to live recordings.I don’t just notice their ‘intent’shot in the video but also other members behaviors.When I piece up what I have read from all sites proof one thing–South korean Justice needs transparency in JYJ/SME ruling.History will repeats again if this hearing is not justified.
Yeah, I went crazy collecting videos and photos… and it reminds me of at first, I saw them wearing the same outfits in a couple of Japanese shows, and then on a magazine cover, and then in photos recording their Bigeastation radio show, and I thought they were wearing the same ‘look’ for a while. Then I realized, nope, they did all those things on the same day.
It’s true, though: one of the reasons I feel in love with them is because they worked so hard and always performed so well for their fans (so generous to their fans!). But after a while, after waiting to hear that they would be taking a break, I just always wished they would rest.
Also reminds me of that M.Net Star Watch from autumn 2006 when they’re asked if they could go back, Yoochun said he would go back to middle school time, and YH said yes, if they’d known they would have this career, they’d go back in time to middle school and play more. And they laughed, but… ;_;
This really hurts me T_T
and that schedule is insane! They must have been so unhealthy and tired all the time TT__TT
I find it funny that HM stans never think that HM had problems too with the company and were overwork and underpaid but disregard that simply because JYJ are lying. -_- Would it kill them to know that people who have been with them 6+ years know more on how TVXQ felt and were treated instead of a company who only thinks of profit? Would it really, or their conscious won’t let them see JYJ are somehow telling the truth. They degrade HM every day praising a company that doesn’t care about their image anymore and only want what 2VXQ can profit. I don’t know when they will open their eyes but when SME throws HM away will they believe then? They will end up just like Kangta~ if JTL had the chance of doing what they loved to do they would of been way successful then at least BB.
agree 100%
I find funny that you assume how Yunho and Changmin fans think, I know pretty well how hard their schedule was because I’ve been there for 6 years, watching them come and go between all those asians countries since 2006.
I know how SME works, all the old fans know, and even when they were together we used to worry about them because of that, but do we stop supporting them? stop buying albums? going to concerts? No, we didn’t.
We didn’t because we loved them and we wanted those great efforts to be compensated, it was the least thing that we could do.
We are not going to let go of Yunho and Changmin because they work with SME, because we don’t understand their work ethics or because they didn’t follow JYJ, it won’t happen because you don’t that to the people that you love.
Time will tell how good some of their decisions were but at the end of the day one fact remains: it’s their life, not ours. They are free to choose the way they want to live it.
@cmonet; the sad thing about what you’re saying is this: The more you support Yunho and Changmin, the many money SME earns. Sadly, the most of your money is falling into SME’s pockets and the little remains goes to HOMIN.
@cmonet
I replied on your comment at thejyjfiles re: Y & C change their stance. Go back & read it, then stop coming to JYJ fan sites to shove YOUR bias down OUR throats.
You are more than welcome to support & show your love for JYJ here, but you are not welcome to drop
in just to stir up trouble between us. Things are more than emotional enough regarding almost every area surrounding both groups. If you need more drama, go join your local theatre troupe.
i find it funny that you think people turn away from homin because they stick to SM. when they start to say bad things about JYJ, that’s when people turn away from them.
it’s not funny to questioning why they still stick with SM while people know they’ve been exploiting brutally by them, but it’s funny that some homin fans try to justify homin’s choice to stay by saying that JYJ is the one who don’t have any respect with the company that have “raised” them.
You can continue to love and support all five, dear. Nobody is stopping you. We have made our point clear and we have decided to stay by JYJ’s side especially since they are the disadvantaged side. Please respect that and have a nice day!
I dont think one is asking u to leave Homin cuz they work with SME.. (btw, do u read detail just to get attention here?) They are just saying some fans are covering up for SME and blaming for betraying SME and Homin for money.. Do u see the difference??? But here ppl are encouraging Homin fans to support the 2 guys in the right way.. In other words, fans should show Homin that they will stick to Homin even if they are not with SME… And somone above says is right.. Fans (or JYJ) didnt blame Homin for not leaving with JYJ but they start to blame Homin for giving a negative comments on JYJ… But believe me, If Homin sees JYJ suffering for leaving SME, they will stick to SME even if they are suffering like hell… I believe that’s one of the reasons some TVXQ 5 fans are more supportive towards JYJ… Not because they choose JYJ over Homin… I just hope this will end soon… The lawsuit.. It gatta be ended soon…
oh its here again. ive been busy with the cancellation issue in twitter, and this guys come here again. please dear nobody buy what you try to sell.
please could translate into Spanish? thanks
you can email the admins bb… ^^
unbelievable!!!the boys worked so hard and get what..a dump paystub with debs…mennn…i only students work after my main 8 hours, every 15m work extra my company still have to pay me “overtime”. If i work like them event i very nomal person i still be rich..and they are…one of top????
SM makes me sick!
My heart hurts just reading it, poor JYJ (TVXQ). I can’t believe they are still standing in two feet T_T
Yeah, I don’t want to be like this but the fuck with that… I wish the worst for SM…
OMG it’s really insane and inhuman schedule !!!!
my heart is hurt when i read these article and i really want to cry T_T
but atlast now i understand why junsu said ‘it’s a real vacation after 7 years’ in his tweet and jae parents so happy when jae come home often now….
I can’t help but to comment again…
What makes me love TVXQ act1 so much is the fact that they still manage to give outstanding performance despite their hectic schedule…
They still sing well…they still are polite towards other people… they still dance energetically… and they still love their fans so much…
Is it too much if I say I hate SM? I think not….
The more info that comes to light on this situation, the more apparent it is just how bad it really was for them. SM brutally exploited their dreams, hard work ethic, talent & trusting, loving & respectful natures just to make more money for themselves. I’m amazed that not one of the members didn’t suffer a complete mental &/or emotional breakdown. Or is that news still to come?
Still to come to light I mean.
I remember Super Junior’s Hangeng mentioned his suicide thought in his lawsuit. I won’t be surprised if any SM artist had (or is having) suicide thought.
I will be surprised, very surprised if JYJ doesn’t win this lawsuit, the way SM treats them are not just, they make soo much money from the boys and pocket them all. Looking at those schedules, I am sooo pissed, I wanna punch something so BAD, RIGHT NOW.
JYJ are where they are suppose to be now. Away from a situation that was not healthy. Now they have the chance to be who they want to be. Now they have the chance to live their lives for themselves. Now they have the chance to create in an atmopsphere of freedom, peace, laughter, and happiness.
They are getting their bearings. Are they still working hard? Yes. But are they the ones who get to control how hard they work? You bet. They are in charge of their destinies now. The past taught them how to be tough, and to tough out the hard times.
Now they can appreciate even more the blessings they have to live their lives the way they want to. It’s no wonder the work they produce now has so much passion in it. As each project commences, they will show everyone – this is where they were meant to be.
We as their fans, can truly appreciate now how much they love what they do. The smiles are no longer forced, the laughter is genuine, and the joy is real.
Go JYJ, Mission Make It Happen!
Agree..
To see JYJ right now.. that’s real blessing.. i guest. Not only for JYJ but for their fans too..
Note : JYJ 3 thanks for this article
¡Well said, my friend! Ditto.
@ButterfliesAreFree~~I totally agree with everything U sed!!
They still work very hard, but it’s doing things they’ve always wanted~~Junsu has already starred in 2 gi-normous musicals and getting to also play the sport that he loves, soccer, my Chunnie has been composing music and is now in his 2nd drama after winning 3 awards from the first and, our God’s gift to the women, Jaejoong is totally directing his very 1st World Concert all by himself, (not to mention that totally sexy little movie he made with Elle, that got our hearts started) and we r sooooo proud of all 3 of our JYJ!! They’re even gonna have an additional 4 new songs!!
Maybe after going thru those horrible years has made them strong enuff to go up against ANYTHING!! I know they also get strength from all of us, their loving fans!! ^_~ We’ll shield them from whatever tries to hurt them!! I don’t think i could love them anymore than i do rite now!!
JYJ FIGHTING!!! JYJ FAMILY FIGHTING!!!
Perfect comment. I always enjoy reading your comments ButterfliesAreFree.
Reading about their schedule had me in tears T.T *rubbing eyes*
But now we can really admire these guys for their amazing endurance. I definitely know their achievements will be limitless now that they can control their futures and because they have such a great magnitude of love from their fans. Love to JYJ always!
Happy that they are so near the end of the dark tunnel. They still have more to achieve and we will stand beside them until the end! ^___^
amen!
@ ButterfliesAreFree
I like your point of views!!!
like always love your comment. everytime i watch their making video they always laugh and smile. our missions is keep is to keep them smiling right ?
You bet that is our mission. They have stated time and again, they trusted the fans to be there for them, and we won’t let them down.
I say, let’s travel down the same road together, and enjoy the beautiful scenery!
To everyone else, just remember, this fandom is a family, JYJ’s Family. Love to all in this family of fans.
I love the whole of your comment, but
“We as their fans, can truly appreciate now how much they love what they do. The smiles are no longer forced, the laughter is genuine, and the joy is real. ”
how much truer can this be? 🙂
awww,i noticed their exhausted face..many times..even when they were in photoshoot or in stage..all of them sicked many times, why they do this to the 5 boys..they not a toys, they are human being..they have soul…this is too much..when i read all this, i burst to tears..
JYJ doing the right thing..get out of SM..i still love HOMIN until now, but dont understand why they stay..might be cos of loyalty to company n parents that don’t want them to follow JYJ..*sign*
hahaha and the WORST thing is that you…as fan YOU NOTICED THAT schedule in just 1 day to know them…
i met DBSK in december 2009 (i know…too late) and before i knew that they were separate…i…so HAPPY…started to see all the interviews, apparences lives, etc in Youtube (it was before apparently “dissapear”) AND IN 1 DAY I REMEMBER I SAID THIS “WHOA…THIS GUYS WORK LIKE SHIT!!!!!!! THEY ARE IN EVERYWHEREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!” and THAT was the reason that I STARTED TO LOVE THEM EVEN MOREEEEEEEEEEEEE specially Yoochun…poor guy…he ALWAYS LOOK SO SLEEPY…SICK…MAD OR BORING… jae always with this awkard smile…Yuhno trying to hide something and answering all the questions…chagmin MAD AND IN SILENCE and junsu looking nowhere…
my point is: DID KOREAN GIRLS NOTICED THIS?????? AND YOU GUYS NEVER SAID ANYTHING??????????????!!!!! oh right…’cause they ALWAYS SAID ON CAMERA “we will try to do our best…even so…we will do our best”
Reading these…make me sick…BUT reading these EVEN THAT I KNOW THIS IS WAS HAPPENING…MAKE ME SICK EVEN MORE….
i CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY HOMIN STAY IN SM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…ok…sorry girl…i better close this before i starting to cry again…
Poor baby boys. Clearly, they were being scandalously exploited before all the public’s eyes, but it seems not all the people was awared of that. ¡Shame over SME’s and Avex’s management! They “simply” took property of these five young and innocent boys lifes’ and talents’ and squeezed them to exhaustion and illness. I can’t keep wondering: ¿Why do Yunho and Changmin decided to stay with SME under such circumstances? This article enlightens even more why JYJ had no other choice but to sue. ¡Well done, my boys! I’ll support you to the end. ¡JYJ fighting! ¡Truth fighting!
It seems the “money in advance” thing is true. There is no other explanation.
That schedule just scream CRAZY.
It had been a running joke among my group of friends that DBSK always looked “half-dead” in all of their performances. Back then, we couldn’t take it seriously just how tiring their schedules must have been, because we enjoyed watching them, be it on variety shows or performances.
Now, I don’t think I can watch their past videos without feeling a twinge of guilt.
I’m relieved that now, they’re in a situation where they can control their work schedule, and can take rest days if they wanted to. No wonder Junsu had taken so many trips with his family and friends recently.
+ Soccer … ^__^
Yup… Our susu, the soccer fanatic, finally gets to indulge in his love for that sport ^o^
The more i read about their history, the more pain i feel for them, and the more i admire them for finally saying NO and that enough is enough. No human should be treated this way no matter how much success they would bring.
Thank you DC TVXQ Gall and JYJ3 for highlighting this to us. I know more news will come. Even though i really really hate to read more of this shocking heart breaking news, i know we need to know more so that we can equipped our selves against those antis.
You SM,just watch how JYJ will soar higher because not only they are extremely talented, they are hard working and honest in their work. You just watch how karma will come and get to you
Yes, go go JYJ, forget about the past, look forward the future that awaits you. We, your fans will always be with you all the way
I am one of those that whenever I saw fans comments on the videos and in blogs such as “where are TVXQ” or “I miss them and I want to see them” I would always comment back that “they need a break and that they can’t work 24/7. You will see them soon enough!”. How right and wrong I was! I was right that they did need a break but wrong that they couldn’t work 24/7 because that is exactly what they did. Makes me wonder when these fans even had time to “miss them”. I suppose it was Korean fans missed them when they were in Japan and Japanese fans missed them when they were in Korea. This just makes me sick and no one will ever again make me feel ungrateful and wrong for using the term “slave contract”.
it’s make me wanna support jyj more, this cruel schedule is so suck
SM and AVEX sure know how to exploit their artists to the core. I wasn’t a TVXQ fan from their debut, but I can easily figure out how harsh and tiring their schedules were. I can’t forget how Jaejoong coughed non-stop but still had to sing live “Forgotten Season” in a radio program. I frowned when they casually said they were gonna fly to Korea right after a concert in Japan to do activities and come back the next day to continue another concert day. I got pissed off because they still had to perform and keep up with the schedules when they were not in good shapes. What is more? They didn’t even get paid properly for their hard work. Greed will do you more harm than you can imagine, SM. Karma will get you soon! X(
I’m more than happy that JYJ stand on their own feet and take charge of their careers now. I never ever want my boys to be treated like slaves again.
I am not a softie but reading about this made me tear up. It really strikes a chord in my heart.
Juxtaposing this account with pictures of Xia playing football or Jaejoong spreading his wings as concert director, and Yuchun having free reign over his career choices makes me realize they knew in their hearts that all efforts to break free would be worth it. I mean,I don’t think anything can be worse than their old lives back in SM.
Hwaiting boys!
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I agree to some of your points… :))
But, please chill… We don’t want this JYJ Fan vs Yunjae fan war, do we?
:))
JUST HUG ME DEAR… I NEED ONE… *CRIES*
@sam2
I’ll give you a hug. Let’s move on, I had enough of JYJ FANS – STOP BASHING YJ FANS OVER FALS INFO! comments, it seems she’s posting it in different article seeking attention…
I’ll just give her a *facepalm* that’s irrelevant for this article.
Let’s go and listen the JYJ’s music.
This is getting completely ridiculous. I am getting so sick of having this shoved in my face every two seconds. I don’t know or care about any rumors and I haven’t seen any JYJ fan mention anything about that. I have only seen them mention about those fans screaming Yunho when Jaejoong was asked about having a girlfriend.
1. No one said Jaejoong said he was gay. The fans are the ones causing that issue. Screaming a guys name when you are asking about his girlfriend…well hello what does that insinuate?
2. It is damaging to their careers because no matter how much you want to say there is nothing wrong with being gay it is still not widely accepted.
3. They did go too far because whoever they are attracted to or not is their business and unless they make it public knowledge it should be left private. As for the spazzing, who cares if the fans ship couples but keep it in the fandom and out of the public because you are right they don’t know!
4. No one is generalizing. Go read the comments on the other article (where your comment should be by the way) and you will see most JYJ fans don’t care about the Yunjae shipping they just don’t do it themselves. They just ask for Yunjae fans to respect Jaejoong. Granted some don’t like the Yunjae thing and they have every right to say so since Yunjae fans have the right to say they do like it. No one ever said anything about not supporting them for any reason so don’t even try that one. Learn some reading comprehension please.
5. I haven’t seen any negative comments about the host so I don’t know where that is coming from and comparing one kind of disrespectful fan behavior to another does not justify the wrong either group of fans does so that argument moot.
Is this rational enough for you?
@sapphire, silent cutie, everyone…
LOL
I’m getting all access to a ravish Jaejoong for a day because of this. X’DDDDDD
I think we can all give each other BIG VIRTUAL HUGS now… ******HUGS******
It’s funny I had to type those in all caps… hahahhahahaha…
maybe it would also help if we can moderate each other, yes? i don’t want to grow white hair this early in life… heheheh
and yes, let’s give director Kim Jaejoong some stress reliever massage now… >///////<
OOPS!!!!!
i hit the wrong reply button!!! This should be down there!
LOL
DEAR VISITOR, SHOULD I COPY PASTE MY COMMENT FROM JUNSU’S COMING TO THAILAND TO THIS POST???
THIS IS GETTING TOO MUCH EVEN FOR ME.
GUYS, CAN WE PLEEEEEEAAASE JUST NOT SAY ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO THE PERSON ABOVE???
I AM GETTING SADDER AND SADDER THAT THIS ISSUE IS CAUSING SO MUCH MORE ACHE AND PAIN THAT WE WILL ALL REGRET LATER.
CAN WE NOT ARGUE WITH THE PERSON ANYMORE????
PLEASE…
I AM JUST ONE PERSON HERE AND I KNOW I STILL HAVE A VOICE.
LET US NOT INDULGE THE PERSON ANYMORE…
******I NEED A HUG T_________________T*******
AND I AM TYPING IN CAPS LOCK BECAUSE I DON’T THINK MY COMMENTS CAN BE SEEN CLEARLY/EASILY W/O DOING SO…
GOD HELP ME………..
I’m sorry. I haven’t made any comments on that subject and I have been ignoring those kind of comments but this was the last straw! This article had nothing to do with that stuff and they just couldn’t leave well enough alone and had to bring it in here! I just couldn’t take it anymore.
@NoMoreSilentLurker
It’s okay dear. *hugs*
I didn’t see your name there yesterday…
*sigh*
I don’t know how much more SIGHING I can do today though.
Anger takes so much effort, so much energy that I have been trying to do this since yesterday. LOL
@sam-sam – I know I read all your comments. If I could give you a great big hug I would. I am sorry really. I shouldn’t have gave her/him the satisfaction of thinking that little rant had any significance whatsoever. I just let my frustration get the best of me on this one.
Sammie, I am stalking you! I wish the admins would put up a chatbox. But until then I’ll just repeat what I wrote elsewhere.
Cry all you have to baby, I’m hugging you while you let it out. “Heart”.
Now, let’s just ignore this nonsense. I need your help if I’m going to go & ravish Jaejoongie! JUNO & Ellis, if you’re there, we need your help too! So let’s focus on that instead shall we.
PS: check out Jae’s smexy back in the 7th day in Thailand video clip. That will definately get your mind back where it should be!! 😀
@sam-sam~~ come here my sister and i’ll give u a big hug *huggggg* ^_~
Sam-Sam, your mother-hen is here for you. BIG HUG. Lots of love too, sweetheart. Now, take some deep cleansing breaths! Do about 5, this should make you calmer.
To everyone else…PLEASE when this ‘person’ shows up…just IGNORE HER. Don’t even respond. Unless you know how to graphic a Bronx cheer! I wish I did. She’s getting off from the responses. Just don’t reply. Soon she’ll GO AWAY out of boredom.
Hug you! Just ignore those troublemakers.
your not alone my dear .. I am with you ..
hope my ENG was be more useful ,, >< .. to help you calm people ,,, we are with you ,, we really sick from THAT topic ,, i only read 5 comment for that topic and my heart just become tooooo heavy ,, my poooor beloved baby JJ .. i love you ever after and i don't care what the rest of the world will say … gambati .. ^^
and that my huge hug my sis ..^^ we are with you ^^
@sam-sam i give you massive big hug or maybe some link to some fanfics will make you smile ? *wink wink
WHY are you REPOSTING the same ill intentioned rant on MULTIPLE unrelated articles? I guess I’ll repost from another article where you C&P the same venom:
JYJ’s Onlooker & Jaime already REiterated what happened in the other post yesterday you referenced. I’m guessing once admins actually see your post they’ll remind to to kindly at least put your trolling in the relevant article
And as for the claim that no such fan account exists … there are several including the personal blog of a very active fan who has written multiple fan accounts of concerts, etc. which you can find here:
reallaerreal.wordpress.com/2011/03/27/to-some-yunjae-shipper/
That some very immature YJ stans showed PSed photos of YJ and told the host JJ was Jung Jaejoong is corroborated by other Thai fans. The easiest way to verify would be to go to Thai fansites or ask one of the Thai SYC admins on twitter. If you want to call people liars at least go to the source and do it directly to their face.
Thai JYJ fans were very embarassed that these YJ stans deliberately and publically disrespected JJ like this especially when JJ has shown nothing but such love and respect toward Thai fans and Thailand.
*****BUSY HUGGING MY JYJ FAMILY*****
WANNA JOIN???? ^________________^
Hugs, hugs, hugs!! @Eliza taught me how to do a heart – let’s see if I can remember it – ♥
@Sapphire 🙂
Do you mind spreading the heart and teach me too? 🙂
lemme see if it works here like in Lj… LOL
&hearts
@wanzhaf
Let’s see if I can remember it!
&_hearts_; then delete the underscores so you have ♥ & it should come up in your post as a heart. &_heart_; 🙂
That’s funny, it worked when it wasn’t meant to, & didn’t work when it was meant too! Let me try again &_heart_;
&heart;
❤ ❥ ♥⎝ ^ _ ^ ⎠
@JUNO
&_heart_;! Hi!
Damn, I keep forgetting to delete the underscores. I’m such an idiot!! &heart;
OK, I’ve worked out my mistake. It’s heartS not heart. ♥ At least I hope that’s it!
hugs hugs i wanna learn the hearts too ♥
Sorry to butt in, I do it with pressing ALT and the number 3 at once. ♥ ^^
♥
a mental patient!!!—make a fuss if u want but i have to say that it’s fruitless…
What does this comment have to do there ? This post isn’t even about YunJae and yet you’re bringing up this issue here.
Also, I’m a YunJae shipper and, even before reading all those rumours from this fan account, I found what these YJ thaï fans did wrong. Watching the video was enough for me to feel bad for JJ because, accept it or not, YunJae are on different sides now and support/defend opposite stances.
Both JYJ and HM said that they aren’t in contact anymore and it’s quite obvious that the separation was anything but neat and smooth.
Anyways, I’m gonna copy-paste some parts of a comment I left on LJ about this situation cuz I think you really need to see the bigger picture of all this (I also encourage you to read the other comment I left on JYJ3’s article about this same issue) :
“I adore YunJae but, embarrassing Jaejoong when he was on thaï national TV representating and promoting JYJ (not TVXQ!), as one of the member and director of the tour, is not acceptable. Shouting Yunho’s name was unnecessary and disrespectful but also insensitive towards Jaejoong.
Furthermore, it wasn’t in Korea or in Japan where fanservice used to be the norm for YJ, and I noticed that even as TVXQ5 they used to tone down the fanservice outside these countries.
It wasn’t a concert or a showcase either, it was on national TV which means that even people who don’t like or don’t know TVXQ/JYJ could watch this show and it would affect, positively or not, their opinion of them.
I don’t know about you but it seemed to me that JJ was pretty uncomfortable (and even saddened if we look at his eyes) when he heard all the shouting (I know it happened before, but this time was even worse because it was very loud and clear and as I already said it wasn’t at a concert/showcase).
I tried to explain this to others YJ fans but I got bashed when I myself am a YunJae shipper ! Like, WTH ?! They said “JJ smiled, he misses his hubby” etc. but seriously, what else could he have done ? Smiling was the only option. He is a profesionnal, even if he was hurt and felt akward he wasn’t going to start crying, run away or shout to his fans to stfu.”
These dammed SME board of Directors & staffs, I wondered they have children of their own or not???? Being treated like that since they were 17 or 18 years old…
I was very glad & happy JYJ left SME – Board of people who are stupid, arrogant & inhuman….
Reading these articles made me sick like hell. However, I felt hurt & anger too because all these years, these 3 boys had gone through…I told myself I will never buy CD from SME other artits anymore… I would rather burn my money instead of giving to SME….
I can see the 3 guys are really happy now. Look at their photoshots, their faces would never lied..More relaxed, happy, sweet smiles & even good laughter. Although they still have long way to go because of lawsuits but JYJ know that they have fans, like us, who believed & support them completely…
I don’t care about HOMIN, they made their own choices of staying with SME. Then they have to live & bear with it…
I’m excited about their upcoming concert in Jakarta. Hope everything goes well… JYJ, love you guys….CIAYOU!!!!
seeing how far JYJ has gone from the miserable life SME has given them, i feel proud of them trying to keep on standing.
i may not be the best fan there is, but i am still one of the many who are there and who will still be there to support them all the way to the end and beyond.
i love JYJ! their MISSION is mine too!
I’m happy with all JYJ do right now! and now they are happier and healthier than bfore..
reading the article gives me headache. i feel like to kidnap the CEO and board of directors and torture them to death!! they are seriously not human. Vomit on their faces!!!!
Sorry guys im kinda piss off
Haiz… JYJ fighting!!! JYJ Family fighting!!!
♥ More ♥ , less hate ^o^ – m(0-0)m ^t^
Sometimes hate is justified. Hating SME, by which I mean the people who created the culture, set the policies, and make the decisions, is a very reasonable reaction. But love and hate are just motivations, what actions should be taken is a very different story.
@tuesday Crude, very crude. And death is too good for them. There are much better ways to deal with this. We want to hurt the business.
I agree with Eliza, we want to hurt the business.
Why? Because this is what these bloodsucking vipers live for. The most important way for them to feel the kind of pain they deserve, is to lose enough that it will take them a VERY LONG time to recoup, if ever, if I get my wish.
I’m flabbergasted whenever I see that end of 2009 schedule. The same about the week when they hopped from one country to another, 6 times, from Asia to Europe and back. And I get mad whenever I’m reminded about Yunho’s poisoning incident, it shows there was zero security around the boys if an anti was able to sneak in a poisoned drink. Couldn’t SM cut down on gas expenses a little and hire proper security for their biggest money-makers??
Argh… I ruin my karma because of SM’s CEO, LSM and the rest of directors’ board, whoever was making decisions concerning TVXQ.
SME remember this…what goes around, comes around.
Lady Karma will be paying you and your cohorts a visit in the not too distant future. Please treat her with the proper respect she deserves. Thank you.
JYJ Fan #Infinity 😉
I am glad that JYJ left. Now they are enjoying worklife balance. LOL. But Jaechun need to drink less. Health is very important.
Testing, testing &hearts:
Well, a mistake 🙂
♥
@Sapphire
Thanks. I ♥ U
Wooooooooo that’s some crazy shit right there. They did this for 6 years? Woooo not good.
U know what I have always wonder? How DBSK keep silent all this years. Even bigbang even revealed how once they planned to runaway from YG and disappear because they feel tired. Sadly (yet funny) Seungri managed to spoil the plan, and BB end up getting 2 months (or is it 1?) holiday, free of activities from YG. And BB’s schedule isnt as crazy as DBSK. And dont get me started with the JE boys, I know they probably have the craziest rules with their employee, but somehow I always feel that JE really really take care of their artist, that I have never get from SME.
With all these schedules, JYJ and HoMin should have been multimillionaire. And IF SM treat their artist as truly artist and not some cash cow, they would have give them months of holidays every year.
I dont know whether SM are truly changing their way or they want to change their public image, they publicly announced when SNSD and SUJU went into vacation. Stupid that it cost them their best group in doing so.
@nichie
With regards to why they kept silent? I’m just guessing…different corporate culture. These companies are all in the same business…the music industry. But, and here is the qualifier, the INTENTIONS of the mgmt of each.
SME simply has chosen to treat their artists as ‘property’. Property doesn’t have any ‘human rights’. If the culture is more like a cult, those who are victims of that cult find it hard to speak out. It’s only a precious few who wake up, and decide they can no longer take what is happening to them.
Those who reach their breaking points, decide on a plan of action given their particular circumstances. Those who internalize fear more, are not willing to break free. The human mind and psyche are very complex.
JYJ simply reached their breaking point and decided to do whatever it took to get out of that cesspool. SME has been able to get away with this nonsense because no one was willing to let the cat out of the bag so to speak. Well, the cat is out now, and the rest of the free thinking and caring world is taking another look at SME. A well deserved look if you ask me.
It still is shocking to me how kpop industry is. In other part of the world, artist is artist. Not to mention when the artist hit it big. Its the management who bend over backward to try and please them. Because in the end, its their names that sell.
You made a hit the nail on the head point…
“Its the management who bend over backward to try and please them. Because in the end, its their names that sell.”
This is why the fallacy of the Kpop model is so striking. Other artists worldwide, with JYJ/TVXQ’s credentials, would be multimillionaire by now. But Korean companies insist on holding to the “but we made them mold”, not mention all the money.
IMHO, the end for that mold is coming to an end. If these companies are not careful, really talented artists may begin looking outside the region. Then where will they be? Biting off their noses to spite their faces much?
I am glad that they left SM. At least now they have the chance to do the things that they wanted to do. Junsu playing soccer and Yoochun skiing.
Pls check out the jyjtimeline.wordpress.com 🙂
If I had one week schedule equal to 1/10 of their schedules, you would see me in the hospital the next week… or maybe I would collapse after just three day…
My poor boys… I’m very happy and thankful that they left SM. Did SM think that they are cyborg and not human at all???
Any fan of TVXQ5 who watched their videos/concerts/fancams/fanpics etc. knows how the boys were overworked and tired out. This simple fact justify in itself their need to leave SM.
JYJ is SAVED! I AM REALLY HAPPY FOR THEM.I’ve just read this article and I am listening to yuchun song now.Even though I dont understand korean…GOD…goosebumps wont stop.We complain for a lot of stupid things…sigh…
DBSK BOYS SURE HAVE SUPERPOWERS!
Like seriously, even after all these hectic schedules, getting sick and missing family, they still have that smile plastered of their faces. They still bowed 90degrees and greeted their sunbaes. They still answers interviews with charisma and smart replies. They still appear funny and energetic on variety shows. How are those even possible? If I had a schedule like that and am exhausted I can’t even make myself walk 30 steps. They’re amazing, and they forever have my respect.
Whatever anyone wanna say, I respect them. They had already proven THE WHOLE WORLD how good an artist they are, so why not give them some break eh? At least lessen the work a bit. But anyway whatever I say here would just be useless. Things already happened.
@ButterFliesAreFree
I read most of your comments on articles posted in JYJ3 and must say you write very well and have sensible views.
One obvious point, we JYJ lovers agree – ignoring those who post irrelevant comments that are not pro-JYJ or giving unsolicited views on Homin vs JYJ. The worst thing that can happen to a person is being totally ignored.
Answering and countering their comments is giving them the attention they don’t deserve. We are not here to provide counselling service.If they want attention,this is not the place.
We are here because this is the place JYJ family gathers to show our solidarity to a group who has captured our hearts.Not just because of their amazing talents but also because of who they are – decent human beings who have set an example by their work ethics, professionalism, humility and kindness. And above all, their moral courage to take on the big boys which will change the entertainment industry for Korean artistes.
It is scary for these young men as losing the court case is unthinkable. If they win, many others in the industry would be helped. If they lose, the loss is theirs alone.
I salute them.
Hottie, thanks for the complements, but for me, it’s just a matter of expressing how I view the situation. These young men deserve to be treated with the respect they have earned. SME has simply shown by their actions how little they respected them as human beings. And despite all the other things, I include HoMin. This history is a part of them as well. However sad we might be that they didn’t have the courage to join JYJ, SME is also responsible for them as well.
I gravitate to the underdog. The lyrics of Joan Baez’s song of John Donne’s poem – No man is an island, no man stand alone. Each man’s joy is joy to me, each man’s grief is my own – stick with me whenever I think of JYJ. I won’t put all the lyrics here, but simple humanity is all that’s called for. Oprah always says, it just takes one person, and then another one person, and so on.
These are the kinds of things that guide me. Everyone’s voice is being raised now, and those voices are being heard. We all do what we can.
@Hottie You totally clicked the wrong reply button 🙂
@ButterFliesAreFree, I agree with you. Even though I haven’t been a fan for more than 2yrs, I feel so attached to dbsk. And when I said dbsk has superpowers, I mean JYJ and Homin. I don’t wanna differentiate them in any way regardless of what ppl say abt Homin’s parents or their statements. They were in the same group under the same company together. They faced hardship together so my heart goes for them five. There’s no way that JYJ cannot win this case.
I “met” TVXQ in June 2006. And by July 2006, I hated SME with a steady, strong, and abiding loathing.
I didn’ get my introduction until 2007-08. I was pretty much focused on the guys, so management was not on my radar screen at the time. but once the wind started blowing the foul scent around, I was immediately convinced who was responsible for it.
And yeah, I have to agree with the last part of your comment. Loathing is a very apt descriptor.
The summer of ’06 was really rough. They were all continuously sick, and that’s the time that Yunho had to be carried off the plane and ended up in the hospital during A-nation. I got a crash course on what the SME schedule was like.
I was mostly into the dramas, still am. Have always liked the music in them. Once I started following them, I looked for online blogs that covered kpop. I checked out different ones to get a feel for what was being said.
I recall reading one that had the account of that. Someone even had pictures of him being carried on the back of one of the managers. Then there was the footage of A-nation without Yunho performing.
All one has to do is take a look at the old footage and compare it with today’s. The difference is startling. Yes, they are working hard, but it’s good hard. The kind that’s character building. Not that they didn’t have character before, but now there is that visage of satisfaction of a job well done. Yoochun’s look of surprise when his name was called for ‘Best Newcomer’. Junsu’s face at his final performance for TOH. Jaejoong’s joking laughter on the Elle set for the video.
I look at their faces when they complete one of their projects and I see happy faces. This makes me feel so good. I can only imagine what they are really feeling. Their world is a different place now, all for the better. SME has not won!
Phew.. It is a miracle that they’re still alive.. I am glad they are out now… All of the schedules suck but I always thought there is something totally wrong about Asia Tours… It is not easy to prepare a 2-3 hours performance with all of the songs to be memorized, choreography etc. why there are months between performances in different countries?? It requires studying from scratch since they did zillions of things in between…
@Nanooz
Thanks for telling me. Actually,I’d a hard time looking for the correct “REPLY” button as I hardly ever comment here and am technically incompetent. So sorry. I guess this is not the correct place to give instructions to an ignorant newbie like me!! 🙂
Nevertheless this is a great place for like-minded JYJ lovers to gather. So I beg your indulgence as I take this chance to digress and share how I came across this fantastic boy band.
Unlike most of you, I knew of DBSK only 5 months ago, in Oct 2010 because I was captivated by this charming actor in the Sungkyungkwan Scandal whose acting I noticed, improved tremendously after Episode 3.I had watched Korean dramas (with help from English subtitles) for years but no actor has fascinated me as much as this young actor. Who is he?
I found out his name was YuChun and google his name and discovered he is a singer with DBSK.I’ve never liked boy bands and avoided listening to them like a plague. Because the ones I have seen, can’t sing but are packaged as pretty boys prancing around with their abs exposed. But out of my love for the actor YuChun,I tried listening to DBSK’s “Love in Ice” and “Why did I fall in love with you?” and WOW! I was sold on K-pop immediately although I had no idea whether the songs I heard were in Japanese or Korean. It didn’t matter that I didn’t understand a word.There is no mistaking these 5 boys have beautiful voices individually and can dance too.DBSK completely changed my bias about boy bands.
Which cave was I living in ,all this while since their debut on 26 Dec 2003? I was 7 years late But since Oct 2010, I have been listening to DBSK/JYJ music DAILY.
I am grateful that I saw YuChun in SKKS or I would have never known there exists such a fantastically talented group of 5 boys miraculously grouped into a team that can harmonise so beautifully.
Then I read about SME and why 3 members broke away and that made me depressed. Because I begin to wonder why I have to start late(knowing of DBSK’s existence and loving them) and end early.
Then depression gave away to anger when Korean broadcasting stations denied JYJ the chance to appear on TV. And AVEX in Japan also refused to support them.
And anger developed into an universal joint-spirit where 86,000+ petitions from JYJ fans ( I bet all of us here submitted ours) from all over the world were forwarded to the court.
SME must know the power of JYJ fans. The starting of the short-lived internet broadcasting station is an example of how JYJ fans in Korea can make things happen.They are admirable. As Lee Seon Joon (acted by YuChun in SKKS)affirmed his room mate Kim Yoon Shik – ” If you need a miracle, I’ll create one for you.”
SME should never under-estimate fan power .
Sorry, this must be boring to all but is definitely therapeutic for me when letting out all the emotions one feels about JYJ , within the fan family.
I’m exactly like you
HUGS
bewitched by lee sun joon
Well Hottie, since you are a confessed newbie, welcome aboard.
We have a really good time here. The folks here who support JYJ, no matter how far they go back, have one thing in common. We are dedicated to making sure the guys keep on soaring as high as they can dream.
“If you need a miracle, I’ll create one for you.”
This without a doubt is one of my favorite lines from SKKS. The script writer was excellent. Another reason why the show was a joy to watch!
Me too..
I have only known TVXQ after I’ve watched SKKS and was captured by Yoochun..
I was disappointed that they are really not together anymore as 5, but I’M REALLY REALLY HAPPY THAT JYJ IS OUT OF SME.. They really deserve to live as normal people and not to be exploited.. How dare SME did that to them!!! JYJ FOREVER!!! ♥♥♥
This may not be the right forum to discuss SKKS.I should be going somewhere else.
But for the love of YuChun, I am into my 8th re-watching of SKKS on internet! And am still waiting for my SKKS DVD to arrive in my country so I can watch it on a bigger screen.It’s an YuChun/LeeSeonJoon addiction that knows no cure in sight.
Maybe half my life is gone from lack of sleep, winding and rewinding all the beautiful tender moments between Lee Seon Joon and Kim Yoon Shik. And as ButterFliesAreFree has commented about the brilliant script writing, I am a sucker for all the simple yet profound phrases used in the drama.I could do a PhD on SKKS if I can find a sponsor.Haha! My favourite is
“If you need a miracle, I’ll create one for you”.
Since when were miracles created and worked on? I thought they just happen.
I no longer know who I fell in love with. Was it Lee Seon Joon or was it YuChun? They seem to be one.
So loving JYJ gives me the reason to continue my fascination of LSJ in the form of YuChun. And YuChun does not disappoint in the form of a smooth, velvety, mesmerising, sexy voice , whether singing or speaking.
It’s answer enough to why bashful fangirls scream “Micky !!!” whenever he performs.And why responsible, matured ajummas started the “Blessing Yu Chun” club with an altruistic mission. His charm is him. Whether “Micky” or “YuChun”.
And didn’t a fan recently declared, “There are men and there are women. And then there is YuChun.” ?
She took the words out of my mouth.Now you know my bias.:)
But I sincerely love the other 2 JYJ members who are so gifted in their own ways.
Sorry, we were discussing SME, didn’t we, when YuChun became a distraction?
Er…what were we saying about the foul smell emanating from SME?
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY ❤
for me lee sun joon has this darcy-ish vibe.
Being a bit of a geek myself I am sucker for hot nerds!
Having said that i loved all the supporting casts as well. They really had a LOT of chemistry with chun and thats what made SKKS special. The cinematography is also incredible. Very pretty shots. Even now when i listen to chajatta or too love it makes me just that much happier. ^_^.
Sungkyunkwan scandal was not perfect. It had its flaws (i noticed a drop in quality of the last two episodes and a move towards fanservice rather than tying up the plot well) but what made it special was that it MOVED ME. Whilst giving the audience snippets of fan service the drama still remained fresh and the dialogue intelliegent.
it had all the charm and sweetness of You're beautiful with the meatiness of a sageuk.How can anyone resist that right? 😉
and i LOVE that PMY is not a ditz! and LSJ is not your typical kdrama hero.
I hope JYJ3 admin does not kill us for turning this into a side discussion on SKKS.
But SKKS is YuChun. And YuChun is YJY. I hope that appeases the 2 admin girls and let us carry on. 🙂
Don’t newbies have some privileges? Like pardon for ignorant new ones,like me,who digress.
Yes,I agree LSY is Darcy come alive with that annoying Korean top hat that gets in the way of amorous movements in an elevator that never works.
Yes, the rush to complete the drama in the last 2 episodes was evident. I was playing a scene in my head ad infintum, of a beautiful Kim Yoon Nee (dressed as a girl) having a date with LSJ and reminiscing when was the first moment each fell in love with the other. It never happened.
So it behooves me to watch and re-watch ( hence my 8th time re-watching till now) from Episode 1 and detect those precious defining moments for myself. You’d never know when the script writer might need new ideas should SKKS Part 2 becomes reality. I could ask her to please include a flashback to those “defining” moments so we could indulge in those two love birds all over again.
You are right that some faults in the drama were obvious. For eg, in the begining of the drama,it was glaring when Kim Yoon Nee was chasing Yoo Ah Yin’s character to thank him for retrieving her money from the ruffians.The split second chase switched from daylight to night scene immediately. The time it took her to reach him, it looked more like running a marathon.
Maybe the rush to complete the show was also due to poor viewership ratings. They never achieve the 20% mark whereas The Baker King hits an impressive 40+ %. The MBS popular sageuk “Queen Seon Duk” in 2009 also hit 40+ % consistently and was the No 1 show in the whole of Korea during the duration of its 62 episodes.
It’s a shame SKKS was so hot yet, never achieved what it deserves. Hopefully YuChun’s “Miss Ripley” does much better.
But we all want a SKKS Part 2 with all the same four lead actors/actress. YuChun himself openly wished so when he was interviewed. Maybe Junsu and JaeJoong could come in as Kim Yoon Nee’s love interest. And recite Confusian ethics in sing song pitch.
LOLs at this>>”recite Confusian ethics in sing song pitch.” ❤
JaeSu already rapped about the geum deung ji sa 🙂 BUT I WOULD love TO SEE THAT.!
I think there Is a volume 2,. (skks is based on a popular book)
whilst it was airing there was a korean that translated and summarized chapters of the book and put it online. Lets just the say the book UNLIKE THE DRAMA was definitely RATED 15+
Unfortunately its unlikely that we'll have season 2 with the same cast because after SKKS the careers of yoo ah in, song joon ki and park min young have taken off so they will probably be busy with solo projects. BUT i can atleast hope for a two episode special right? 😉
i also want to see all the stuff we missed out on. If JYJ could do a SKKS parody that would make my day!
Sorry, but what do you mean by “two episode special”?
Can you please give me the link to the summary of the book ( in English )?
With that, I promise to bring my fetish on YuChun/SKKS elsewhere. 🙂
Sorry it looks like the blogger has deleted it.
The stuff should still be hanging around the soompi thread though
The original source is gone. so the entire novel was gone
http://www.yogurutu.blogspot.com/
but i did a little bit of digging and found this
http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_88276_15.htm
the excerpts re hidden in the spoiler tags
the original blog was called yogurutu bad milks blogspot
i’m sure the other stuff is somewhere on soompi
aww SKKS fan!
haha I never really intended to watch it since I’m not a fan of Kdramas, but once I finished it, this image of Josun-Yoochun was stuck in my head FOR AGES it was driving me crazy!!! LOL
I am a hardcore JYJ fan and Junsu-biased but I went totally gaga for Yoochun in SKKS xD I didn’t see it coming at all lol~
I hope he stars in more wonderful dramas to lure fans like you in to our family more xD
Was very glad to see the article on the trials and tribulations of DBSK/TVXQ/Tohoshinki before the parting of the ways from SM.
I have a good sized collection of JYJ as well as of DBSK, but will not buy anything that JYJ puts out now if i notice that AVEX and/or SM is the distributor. If i see that JYJ has something out distributed by some other company, i will get it. From what i’ve read recently, AVEX/SM is still putting out things that DBSK (when they were 5) has done in the past, and even some JYJ stuff, but that JYJ gets nothing from this profit-wise. So, since i can’t do much of anything except as a consumer of products of JYJ, i shall keep my $$ until I find that JYJ releases CDs/DVDs under a different distributor. Hopefully, others will do the same, but then, it’s your $$, so you need to decide what to do ultimately.
GO JYJ and good luck on your successes as a group and individually!!!!
Hottie
March 30, 2011 at 4:36 am #
Hi SKK Scandalists!
This may not be the right forum to discuss SKKS.I should be going somewhere else.
But for the love of YuChun, I am into my 8th re-watching of SKKS on internet! And am still waiting for my SKKS DVD to arrive in my country so I can watch it on a bigger screen.It’s an YuChun/LeeSeonJoon addiction that knows no cure in sight.
Maybe half my life is gone from lack of sleep, winding and rewinding all the beautiful tender moments between Lee Seon Joon and Kim Yoon Shik. And as ButterFliesAreFree has commented about the brilliant script writing, I am a sucker for all the simple yet profound phrases used in the drama.I could do a PhD on SKKS if I can find a sponsor.Haha! My favourite is
“If you need a miracle, I’ll create one for you”.
Since when were miracles created and worked on? I thought they just happen.
I no longer know who I fell in love with. Was it Lee Seon Joon or was it YuChun? They seem to be one.
So loving JYJ gives me the reason to continue my fascination of LSJ in the form of YuChun. And YuChun does not disappoint in the form of a smooth, velvety, mesmerising, sexy voice , whether singing or speaking.
It’s answer enough to why bashful fangirls scream “Micky !!!” whenever he performs.And why responsible, matured ajummas started the “Blessing Yu Chun” club with an altruistic mission. His charm is him. Whether “Micky” or “YuChun”.
And didn’t a fan recently declared, “There are men and there are women. And then there is YuChun.” ?
She took the words out of my mouth.Now you know my bias.:)
But I sincerely love the other 2 JYJ members who are so gifted in their own ways.
Sorry, we were discussing SME, didn’t we, when YuChun became a distraction?
Er…what were we saying about the foul smell emanating from SME?
I’m so sorry, people.
I am making a mess here as I don’t know where to click and to my horror, the same posting appears all over.
Thanks JUNO. Much appreciated.
I tried the 2 links you provided and found nothing.
Good things don’t last.So it’s time to move on. 🙂
Sorry it looks like the blogger has deleted it.
The stuff should still be hanging around the soompi thread though
The original source is gone. so the entire novel was gone
but i did a little bit of digging and found this
http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic_88276_15.htm
the excerpts re hidden in the spoiler tags
the original blog was called yogurutu bad milks blogspot
i’m sure the other stuff is somewhere on soompi